User talk:Sam Sailor

This page was last edited or modified by Hanith Amo (talk). If you leave a new message on this page, I will reply on this page unless you ask me to reply elsewhere. File:Cartella cokelat.png.jpg Welcome edit Need help? Click on [show] to the right Template:User talk disclaimer 18:51:26, 21 September 2015 review of submission by 117.208.70.79 117.208.70.79 (talk · contribs) Draft:Books to read for Civil Services Examination (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) regarding new page rejection DJ Revitalise Hi sam, i reviewed the new page i started. i added citations to the websites where i found the information. Just wondering what more i can do here? can you please help me? Regards Jack Simpson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicblogger2015 (talk • contribs) 12:56, 22 September 2015 (UTC) Hi Musicblogger2015. Could you for starters follow the hyperlinks in the pink box on the draft, please? In essence they will tell you why we need secondary, reliable sources to verify the subject. And read WP:MOS and MOS:LAYOUT on how to layout and structure an article. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 13:48, 22 September 2015 (UTC) hi sam i have based this layout on the correct page layout structure i believe, i did read the hyperlinks and im not sure what ive forgotten. the page looks like other wiki pages to me? when i compare it? are you able to hep me edit it? im new to html, and would like to share my knowledge on wikipedia and add new information on pages that don't currently exist. Jack.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicblogger2015 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 22 September 2015 (UTC) Cut the html tags and apply Wikipedia markup. Then add secondary sources. Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either: Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when. Thank you. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 14:06, 22 September 2015 (UTC) secondary sources i have provided alot i believe. 37 citations also. thanks for your help. Jack ````Musicblogger2015```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicblogger2015 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 24 September 2015 (UTC) HTML tags are those contained inside <>, except for ref tags. In this case <li>, <ul>, and <strong> are still present. Wikipedia markup: Open Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Text formatting in a separate window. Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. 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Thank you. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 12:53, 24 September 2015 (UTC) ok i have understood what you meant now. editing the source and the other edit page makes it confusing sometimes. i believe now its been edited in a manner you seem fit. i noticed the page has changed our some parts are listed. with little arrows not sure how they got there. unless its a result of the html now gone. or its something you perhaps edited. i removed the html <U> and ,il. i have also understood how to sign the post. hope it will work for this one , i made a mistake on the last post im sorry. Musicblogger2015 (talk) 16:17, 24 September 2015 (UTC) hi sam just cheking in ,ahvent heard back from you yet. excited to get this page finished so i can start some more wiki pages. can you please help me to round off.Musicblogger2015 (talk) 07:07, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Try to address the sourcing issues. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 07:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Hi again Sam, when you have time, please review my page again. the sources are good i believe now. scoured google and came up with as much as i can. Hope its satisfactory so i can write up another article. Musicblogger2015 (talk) 17:46, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Hi sam, just wondering if you have had time to approve my sources for my page. Or if you have any more tips for me.Musicblogger2015 (talk) 12:23, 3 October 2015 (UTC) @Musicblogger2015: I can't do that, the sourcing issues have not been solved. For starter, what is the source of subject's date of birth? -- Sam Sailor Talk! 12:28, 3 October 2015 (UTC) Hi sam, yes i believed i had included this particular citation. in the end it had got deleted i see i guess from redoing the citations. now i have rectified this 1st citation to ref the DOB. thanks Musicblogger2015 (talk) 15:19, 4 October 2015 (UTC) Yes, that is a self-published source, subjects press kit, and it might pass, but I had hoped for something better, a good, long interview from a reliable source, a solid review of a concert of his. As WP:42 famously summarizes: "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic." That does not seem to be the case with DJ Revitalise, I can't find anything of importance to add, at least. Sorry, I'm unable to be of much more help in this case. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 16:48, 4 October 2015 (UTC) Article draft "Eyal Nir" rejected Can you please explain what is missing with the current Reference part and what can I do to improve it so my article is approved?Eyalnirr (talk) 10:40, 27 September 2015 (UTC) Yes, WP:42. But I think Draft:Eyal Nir epitomizes how difficult it is to create a factual, neutral autobiography. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 11:13, 27 September 2015 (UTC) So you do you suggest I should do as I have already provided reliable independent references supporting the article's text? Can you give me a relevant example of something I can add so my article is approved? Eyalnirr (talk) 11:42, 27 September 2015 (UTC) Request on 11:10:57, 27 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Dey.sanjoy Dey.sanjoy (talk · contribs) Draft:Cygnite (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) Hello Sam, I am new to wiki article. I am not sure what else to fix, could you please help ? Dey.sanjoy (talk) 11:10, 27 September 2015 (UTC) Please read the advice given in the pink and grey box on the draft: follow the links, read the instructions, then ameliorate the draft accordingly. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 11:14, 27 September 2015 (UTC) @Sam I read the instructions you sent across, but still don't understand where going wrong. Even i have checked Cite "Error Check" but no error found in the article. Could you please help ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dey.sanjoy (talk • contribs) 15:04, 27 September 2015 (UTC) Thanks for the thanks! Glad to see you're still about. Just spotted the Leonard Cohen quote on your userpage too - great stuff! Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:02, 27 September 2015 (UTC) @Lugnuts: Thanks, friend. Yeah, if I wasn't such a lazy bastard, I'd make some Erik Clausen stubs. But I'm a victim to my own mediocrity. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 17:07, 27 September 2015 (UTC) Thanks for Three Seals Law Chrispasuk (talk) 08:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC) You're welcome! Chrispasuk. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 08:10, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Model minority Thread retitled from "Hello". Hello how are you. User talk:Hewdropsbow still keep removing sourced informtation from the article Model minority, by claiming that indian do cover pakisitani?.Jobas (talk) 11:46, 28 September 2015 (UTC)  Done - replied on the Talk:Model minority, reverted in the article and left a comment on the user talk page in question. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 12:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC) gymnast star I love WIKI Tumboling (talk) 21:22, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Please comment on Talk:Ganesh Chaturthi The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Ganesh Chaturthi. Legobot (talk) 00:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC) Articles for creation: Yves Amu Klein (September 29) phab:T4700 The following is a closed discussion. Please do not modify it. Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved. If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Yves Amu Klein and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window. If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk or on the reviewer's talk page. You can also get Wikipedia's Live Help real-time chat help from experienced editors. SwisterTwister talk 23:41, 29 September 2015 (UTC) Hello! Sam Sailor, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! SwisterTwister talk 23:41, 29 September 2015 (UTC) @SwisterTwister: Draft is not mine, the above is a result of the often reported phab:T4700, here meaning that {{subst:}} does not work in ref tags. Thanks for pinging the creator. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 07:58, 30 September 2015 (UTC) G13 Eligibility Notice The following pages have become eligible for CSD:G13. Draft:ValueLicensing Thanks, HasteurBot (talk) 03:01, 30 September 2015 (UTC) Anine Bing Hi there Sam, Im just trying to correct the information that is not correct in this article. No major changes but some information is just not right and very misleading.. Is there anything we can do to fix this? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fridaaberganinebing (talk • contribs) 16:54, 30 September 2015 (UTC) In regards to your edits on Anine Bing, certainly no one would mind if you used the {{request edit}} template on the article talk page. Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either: Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when. Thank you. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 17:07, 30 September 2015 (UTC) Request on 22:49:58, 30 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by The original destroyers The original destroyers (talk · contribs) Draft:The Destroyers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) I understand that I made a poor choice of username but please read the draft without prejudging. I chose the name because it was an easy reference to the subject matter and nothing else. As for notability, i can point to hundreds of bands with less "notability" than the Destroyers. Is there a magic number of books that reference the band or is that just a personal thing. How about websites, facebook pages? How many records does a band or its members have to be credited with to satisfy the reviewer? Notability is such a subjective criteria that it cries out for some standardization. How many people submitting this page will satisfy the criteria of non "external" submissions. Any indication you give me of what is required would be gratefully received. Thanks The original destroyers (talk) 22:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC) The original destroyers (talk) 22:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC) Please read the advice given in the pink and grey box on the draft: follow the links, read the instructions, then ameliorate the draft accordingly. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 01:26, 1 October 2015 (UTC) Advice regarding my post you edited Hey Sam! Thanks a lot for looking at my draft article. It is (was originally) titled Robert (Bob) Nicholls. I noticed you changed the title to Robert Nicholls. I don't mind this at all but I just wanted to ask- there is already a page on Wikipedia called Robert Nicholls, who is a completely different person. Does this matter? It is the reason I titled mine Robert (Bob) Nicholls- to distinguish the two. My other question is on my watch page there seems to be a duplicate of my article. Again, does this matter?! Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate it. Best wishes, Emma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cladoselache (talk • contribs) 10:55, 1 October 2015 (UTC) Hi Emma, and thanks for your message. Your questions are perfectly valid. When we have two subjects with the same name/term, we disambiguate. In this case we would most likely move (=rename) Robert Nicholls to Robert Nicholls (politician), move Draft:Robert Nicholls to main space as Robert Nicholls (illustrator) and then let Robert Nicholls list these two subjects. Quite befitting have a look at Robert Nichols. When you talk about a duplicate on your watchlist I presume you are seeing both Draft:Robert (Bob) Nicholls and Draft:Robert Nicholls. The former is a redirect to the latter following the move. Best, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 11:32, 1 October 2015 (UTC) Ah HAH! That makes perfect sense and explains everything :-) Thank you so much for replying so quickly and for taking the time to explain so clearly. Have a lovely day! Best wishes, Emma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cladoselache (talk • contribs) 14:35, 1 October 2015 (UTC) G13 Eligibility Notice The following pages have become eligible for CSD:G13. Draft:Fowls (band) Draft:Retroscreen Virology Group plc Thanks, HasteurBot (talk) 03:00, 2 October 2015 (UTC) The Signpost: 30 September 2015 News and notes: Wikimedia Foundation fundraising report, Montreal to host 2017 Wikimania In the media: Irish legislative editing; coffee quarrel; more sports vandalism Op-ed: Wikipedia needs more administrators Recent research: Wiktionary special; newbies, conflict and tolerance; Is Wikipedia's search function inferior? Tech news: Tech news in brief Read this Signpost in full Single-page Unsubscribe MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:36, 3 October 2015 (UTC) Draft:Dermata Cluj Thread retitled from "Hello". What is the point to keep this empty pages 2011–12 Liga IV and 2015–16 Liga IV with redirect when is supposed to be with the league tables ? Did you edit before Romanian football ? If you want you should help, there are many things missing. I have finished my Dermata Cluj article also, have a look and accept it. Thank you.Alexiulian25 (talk) 09:01, 4 October 2015 (UTC) @Alexiulian25: If you have a better suggestion for the targets of the two redirects 2011–12 Liga IV and 2015–16 Liga IV go ahead and edit, but I see no reason to blank them. If you want to make articles under those titles, let me know, and I'll tag them for deletion prior to moving your drafts. I haven't edited Romanian football, it's not my turf so to speak. But coincidently I once had a girlfriend whose family emigrated from Cluj-Napoca. Lovely people, we are still in infrequent contact. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 09:11, 4 October 2015 (UTC) @Sam Sailor: Oh, that is great, I live close to Cluj-Napoca also, the team I created is from Cluj also, a old team who merged with the big CFR Cluj in 1960. I do not want to make this articles yet, because the priority is to improve Liga II, Liga III, Cupa Romaniei - Romanian Cup, and last in the list is Liga IV.--Alexiulian25 (talk) 09:21, 4 October 2015 (UTC) When do you plan to have a look on my article Dermata Cluj ?? It is the time to be accepted, it is no more to write about this small romanian team. Is the last team who played in Liga I without a page.--Alexiulian25 (talk) 16:14, 7 October 2015 (UTC) Presumably Draft:Dermata Cluj. Due to Diff of Draft:Dermata Cluj not any time soon. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 16:25, 7 October 2015 (UTC) What it is a Diff ? I did not know that I can not remove that. Sorry. What is wrong with the article ? I did the best for it, is no more to write about it. Please be gentle and accepted. Thank my friend.--Alexiulian25 (talk) 16:30, 7 October 2015 (UTC) I am just another volunteer here trying to help out at e.g. WP:AFC. As I did the last review, I prefer that someone else does the next. Have patience, please. A diff is the difference between two edits. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 16:58, 7 October 2015 (UTC) 10:57:20, 5 October 2015 review of submission by BernsReel BernsReel (talk · contribs) Draft:AAL Shipping (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) Requesting to understand why the article was declined or not yet approved. I would like to learn how to properly post an article or contribute to Wikipedia. I thought I was following the TOS. Please read the advice given in the pink and grey box on the draft, and in my comment: follow the links, read the instructions, then ameliorate the draft accordingly. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 11:03, 5 October 2015 (UTC) The Diplomat (2015) response Hi Sam Sailor: Not sure if your note on my film page will be holding up the approval, but I wanted to let you know I will be revising the page to better follow the Manual Style/Film guidelines. My questions is this: Should I wait until the page is approved or not approved to make the changes or can I go ahead and alter the page now? And here is one more question for you...the guideline state that films with similar names should be named like this: The Diplomat (2015 film) How do I change the name of the overall page to reflect this guideline? If you can, please reply to this note on the page I created. Thank you!!! JWS 10:33am EST, 10/05/15 Sludaw (talk) 14:33, 5 October 2015 (UTC) @Sludaw: Thanks for your message. I have moved the draft to Draft:The Diplomat (2015 film). Focus on the film. That means: cut the coatrack'ing and follow the MOS. The film is notable, no doubt. Tone it down. "Remarkable" "singular". Cut it out. Belongs on a blog, not here. Remember what Gertrude Stein told a young writer in Paris: drop the adjectives. He did, and then he did well. His last name rhymes on lemming-clay. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 01:19, 6 October 2015 (UTC) Draft:List_of_Notable_Streets Hey - This is what I have in mind as a minimum requirement for inclusion: A pre-existing wiki page that expands on a street's notability, coupled with a reason a street may be notable beyond just being a big street: Being the hub of an industry - particularly becoming strongly associated/metonymous with that industry or being the subject of popular media. Each of the streets in this revision meets multiple elements of this criteria. About 1/3rd have their notability mentioned in external lists, and I'd guess I could provide an external reference for most entries from national tourism sites without too much trouble. I also figured making this into a table asking for images/articles/reasons for notability creates a barrier for throwing in just any street. Is there a way to lay out these criteria explicitly and enforce them on a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thare (talk • contribs) 14:42, 5 October 2015 (UTC) @Thare: Thanks for your message. Please remember that new discussion page messages and topics should always be added to the bottom. In the future you can use the "New section" link in the top right. For more details see the talk page guidelines. First of all and most importantly: I salute you for a great job! Wikitables aren't easy, you have put a lot of hours into that list, and the result is good looking. Now to the sour part: I think we are heading straight for the rocks with an article title like this and lack of exclusion/fluffy inclusion criteria; "pre-existing wiki page" that's fine, but then it becomes open to interpretation "that expands on a street's notability". From there on it gets worse "Being the hub of an industry" ... "being the subject of popular media". I fear we would have a situation where users from every 1+ million inhabitants city would like to squeeze in a main street. And I bet they could find a source too that supported the street in question being unique and special and subject of popular media. Ah, we don't have a limit, do we? Jerusalem is sub-1M. So in comes all the other sub-1M cities, Dublin, Amsterdam, Oslo, Copenhagen, and they shout WP:GEOBIAS at 120dB. Not to speak about: where's Africa? ... I hate to sound discouraging, I know I do. ... I had a look around, we have Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists and I will post over there and ask for some feedback on your draft. Whatever happens with this draft, don't give up on Wikipedia. If I can be of any help, never hesitate to drop me a line. And in closing: I think you are pretty creative when you include Canal Grande on such a list. :-) Best, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 23:59, 5 October 2015 (UTC) P.S. Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either: Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when. Thank you. @Sam Sailor: First of all thanks for seeing that I'm new and going easy on me! I've thought about it and tried to formalize a more rigorous inclusion criteria which is as follows: A pre-existing Wikipedia entry with images An external site from a reputable source which mentions the notability of the street At least TWO of the following mentioned on the Wikipedia page and which can be independently confirmed: 1. Culturally Significant (site of major government buildings, monuments, museums, tourist attraction, historical events, metonymy etc. with wiki-pages as appropriate) 2. Functions as its city’s main industrial hub (Retail, Fashion, Media, Finance, etc.), with the understanding that major world cities may have multiple hubs 3. Site of major landmarks or events which also have their own pre-existing wiki pages 4. Subject of works of popular culture which also have a pre-existing wiki pages 5. Meets the criteria for a significant superlative (longest, widest, most expensive etc.) as confirmed by a reputable source. Obviously any list of notable things is going to have gray area, but I think this is fairly rigorous and will keep a lot of unnecessary entries away. Again though, it's one thing to lay out criteria, but I have no idea how to enforce it. Also it's been suggested that this list bit work better in pieces (like Notable streets of South America, etc.) - would that help with anything? Also I did try to see if any African roads made it onto some pre-existing compilations, but bias is real and most of those lists are very US/Europe heavy. I'm trying to beef-up the South America representation now and WILL double back to dig up African streets that meet this criteria, though I'm guessing they'll be harder to find. Thare (talk) @Thare: As you say yourself: Again though, it's one thing to lay out criteria, but I have no idea how to enforce it. Bingo. Take a look at Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists with emphasis on § Selection criteria. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 07:48, 6 October 2015 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Barnstar of Integrity To a hawk-eyed scrutinizer of POV edits, both blatant and veiled, and for generally being an upstanding guy. Kiyoweap (talk) 08:08, 6 October 2015 (UTC) A/Prof Ned Abraham - Draft Dear Sam Sailor, Thank you for reviewing our first draft for the page. Your Comment: As far as I can tell, all "references" now found in section /References/ instead of inline are publications by subject. Rename that section to something like /Selected works/ and turn it into a bulleted list removing the ref tags. Then find some reliable sources on subject and add them inline. If you need any help and guidance just leave me a message on my talk page. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 09:07, 8 September 2015 (UTC) I have made the updates that you suggested and renamed the references section to be called "Selected Works" and made that section bulleted. On the question of reliable sources. Are you able to take a closer look at the "Selected Works" which have links to let me know if any of them are "in" or "out" in terms of reliable sources? With this I was going to request further information from Ned on the context of the production of the items listed. I then will need some help with how to do the technical referencing in line as I was having trouble with that... Thank you very much for your advice. Kind regards, VirginiaHalford (talk) 02:09, 8 October 2015 (UTC) Have a look at this advice, consult the Manual of Style/Biographies, and please add citations. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 15:34, 9 October 2015 (UTC) Draft: Jonny Holmstrom Dear Sam Sailor, Thanks you for reviewing the draft and providing instructions for improvement. I added additional references to provide evidence for notability of this particular academic. Also, I changed back to professor (from associate prof): the CV with associate professor tittle found online was outdated and and I replaced it with an updated faculty directory citation. Please see the new version and please let me know if there is a need for further editing/referencing. 131.212.4.169 (talk) 14:14, 9 October 2015 (UTC) Please comment on Talk:Mysticism The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Mysticism. 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[[1]] [[2]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjcraig (talk • contribs) 15:03, 11 October 2015 (UTC) Sorry, but the fact that everybody can edit Wikipedia, does not mean everything can be written on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a soapbox, an advertising platform, a vanity press. All articles must strive for verifiable accuracy, citing reliable, authoritative sources. Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either: Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when. Thank you. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 15:11, 11 October 2015 (UTC) It was written by me. Sjcraig (talk) 15:20, 11 October 2015 (UTC) The Signpost: 07 October 2015 Op-ed: Walled gardens of corruption Traffic report: Reality is for losers Featured content: This Week's Featured Content Gallery: Winners of Wiki Loves Monuments 2015 in Pakistan Arbitration report: Warning: Contains GMOs Technology report: Tech news in brief In the media: Jailed Saudi blogger wins award; PR editing and Wiki-embarassment; Pakistan's third-richest person? Read this Signpost in full Single-page Unsubscribe MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:20, 11 October 2015 (UTC) Mahmoud Abdel Moghny Thanks for asking me about possibility of reviving page. But as discussion came to a concensus of delete at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahmoud Abdel Moghny it is just too early to try to reestablish it so soon. In any case, we have an Arabic page for the individual here محمود عبد المغني which is sufficient for now. Anyway most of those interested in the Arab World do have access to that quite extensive presentation. werldwayd (talk) 23:59, 11 October 2015 (UTC) Ranthambore Fort I'm not sure the editor wasn't right about who founded it. See the UNESCO link I added to the talk page. Doug Weller (talk) 16:39, 12 October 2015 (UTC) @Doug Weller: Neither am I, and after having browsed sources it is likely UNESCO is right in saying that "the exact origin of the Ranthambhore fort is still disputed". It's also possible that parts of the material Ranaharra removed should either be pruned or be better sourced, but a 4.8k deletion of otherwise sourced material without at least an explanation in the edit summary is bound to be treated under WP:BLANKING. If you think I have been unjust while STiki'ing, please do revert me. Since the heading on Talk:Ranthambore Fort is "Disputed dates", notice that the 944 CE assertion/assumption was not disputed as such. I will leave Ranaharra a message. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 17:21, 12 October 2015 (UTC) Sam Shephard GC Hi. Noticed that this was declined. Being awarded the GC would make him notable in terms of WP:SOLDIER. I see on List of George Cross recipients that there is already a redlink for him - under the name Samuel John Shephard. Gbawden (talk) 08:56, 13 October 2015 (UTC) Gbawden, you appear to be absolutely correct in what you say, I have removed my decline of the draft. Thank you for correcting me. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 09:04, 13 October 2015 (UTC) Glad I could help. I have my moments :) Gbawden (talk) 09:06, 13 October 2015 (UTC) An admin request you might be interested in Hi, you might be interested in this edit, which has not yet been responded to. Thank you for your vigilance in this matter. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC) @Sminthopsis84:  Done -- Sam Sailor Talk! 13:50, 13 October 2015 (UTC) Copenhagen Hi, thank you for what you did to List of Rectors of the University of Copenhagen. I created the article two years back but shied away from categorizing the individual rector bios and adding the missing (1537-1850) part. I see the number of red links in the page outweigh the blue links. I wonder if you know folks who will be interested in creating the articles. I feel there is a scope to create a page listing all red linked rectors/academic heads of universities (not limited to Denmark) and link it from Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles. All of them would pass our notability requirements per WP:PROF (criteria 6). I note there is Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Thomson-Reuters most cited scientists but albeit with a different scope. Solomon7968 17:11, 13 October 2015 (UTC) Thanks for your message, Solomon. I'm game on writing those bios, 1850-present should be quite easy. Do you want to start from the bottom, then I start from the top? -- Sam Sailor Talk! 17:40, 13 October 2015 (UTC) Request for assistance on Draft:VICIS Thepantry (talk · contribs) Draft:VICIS (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) notability update with new verifiable links Sam, wanted to check in on the notability updates in the VICIS page. Added a number of third-party links. I think these changes will satisfy your notability requirement. Thanks, Ray Thepantry (talk) 17:30, 13 October 2015 (UTC) To editor Thepantry: The tone of the draft should be addressed, it starts out bad with "Seattle-based VICIS, Inc. is developing new football helmet technology that better addresses forces thought to cause concussion." and gets worse, e.g. "VICIS is filling this void by completely re-imagining the football helmet." -- Sam Sailor Talk! 17:37, 13 October 2015 (UTC) Sam, thanks for the feedback on the proposed VICIS article. Can you give me a little more information regarding the tone? Is it too commercial, too vague, something else? I could use a little more direction in order to fix the problem. On a separate note, can you tell me if I've satisfied the notability requirement? Thanks, Ray Thepantry (talk) 22:21, 20 October 2015 (UTC) Hi Ray. Two year old company, working on a sports (football) helmet, not yet on the market. Did I get that right? I think you need to refocus here. The WP:ARTICLETITLE suggest that the reader will get info on a company, but right from the third word the promo-propulsion churns away talking flattery about a product that is still on the drawing board/in development. Mentioning products or services in business related articles are naturally not prohibited, but featuring them in the WP:LEAD easily leaves an impression of WP:PROMOTION, and notice that our notability guideline for organizations and companies expressly states that "If the products and services are not notable enough for their own article, the discussion of them should be trimmed and summarized into a shorter format, or even cut entirely." The tone in the draft is really perfect, e.g. "VICIS is filling this void by completely re-imagining the football helmet." and several other examples, that's perfect for a marketing brochure; but no good for an encyclopedia. So focus. Or maybe WP:TNT and start from scratch only using what the secondary sources say. Yup, it'll be short, it'll be without passion, but that's how it done here. For inspiration on writing better articles about companies and organizations read Wikipedia:WikiProject Companies/Guidelines. I hope this helps. By the way, did the Swedish bicycle airbag-helmet Hövding make it to the US yet? Youtube -- Sam Sailor Talk! 00:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC) Sam, I sincerely appreciate your feedback. I'm going to post a new draft of the article that expunges the marketing speak and self flattery. I've linked all claims in the new draft to credible, third-party sources. The one thing that will remain is a focus on the product. At its current stage, the company VICIS is the helmet it will introduce next year. I've never seen the Hovding helmet. That would be one heck of sight on the football field. Thanks again. I hope the next draft is much closer to acceptable. Best, Ray Thepantry (talk) 05:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC) American Ghost Army The first edit was actually going to be on the AGA, a group connected with the Italian Mafia. The new article, the Quibb, is literally a first-time start-up. I need some help in giving sources for it though. This is the first time I have submitted "The Quibb".— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrfriendlybee (talk • contribs) 18:06, 13 October 2015‎ (UTC) I can't help you. What you have submitted in your Previous revision of User:Mrfriendlybee/sandbox is utterly not for Wikipedia. If you want to get serious about editing here by all means contact me again. Otherwise please do not. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 08:55, 14 October 2015 (UTC) Removal of speedy deletion templates Sir, you and Eeekster tagged Way Well for speedy deletion, but both times the page creator who is promoting himself removed the template. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Way_Well&action=history --223.176.0.138 (talk) 10:31, 14 October 2015 (UTC) Thank you for leaving me a message about this, it has been taken care of. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 10:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC) Why do you block me? Why do you block me? the specific title of article is only about ALLAH. the source can be found in encyclopædia britannica. 2007. encyclopædia britannica. referrence 10 in the specific article. Snowweatyh (talk) 11:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC) You are not blocked. As for the contents dispute please take it to the talk page if you so wish, but do not keep edit warring for your preferred point of view. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort and a bit of respect towards process and fellow editors would be most befitting. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 11:05, 14 October 2015 (UTC) i already did it to the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowweatyh (talk • contribs) 11:08, 14 October 2015 (UTC) Blocked as a sock of an indef blocked editor. --NeilN talk to me 12:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC) N'Diaga Samb Hi. You removed the prod tag for this article, and I have no issue with that, I'm just trying to figure out if my understanding of the prod blp is correct. When I initially read it, I thought that it had to be at least one reliable source. I saw the one reference, but when I went to WP:prodblp, it says that the references need to be reliable. Now, re-reading the guideline, I see that I was in error (I think), and that reliability is not a condition, it can be even a non-RS citation. Is that correct? Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 13:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC) Hi Onel. Yes, your reread is correct. Reliability is not a condition if there is a source that confirms anything about subject. (A common analogue mistake is to tag with {{BLP unsourced}} in articles without inline citations but one or more URLs in say § External links.) However, if no source of any kind is present, and {{Prod blp}} is added, then it can only be removed once a RS is added. Even among admins this is sometimes misunderstood. I had recently endorsed a PRODBLP, the creator (likely subject) added two sources, articles written by himself and posted online; an admin removed the Prod blp. I left her a polite note asking her to reexamine those two sources pointing to WP:BLPPROD and WP:IRS; she did, and deleted the article. No big deal. Just goes to show the finer details of some rules can be tricky. Likewise the rules concerning WP:PROD are sometimes misunderstood: WP:CONTESTED: anybody can contest a PROD by removing it, no need for sourcing, no need for edit summary, and it may not be reverted and may not be re-added. An editor with more than 10 years under his belt recently misunderstood that at AfD. There's a lot to learn here. I recently tagged a userpage that was a WP:FAKEARTICLE with CSD#U5, only to have it declined and asked to take it to MfD. Why? Because the user had made more than a handful of edits in main space, and then CSD#U5 is no longer a possibility. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 16:37, 14 October 2015 (UTC) Thanks for the detailed explanation. Definitely get it now. Onel5969 TT me 18:37, 14 October 2015 (UTC) sipXcom project Hi Sam Sailor, Trying to get my page approved and keep running into roadblocks. I just got the third rejection and this is getting frustrating. This page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SipXcom) is not substantially different from the format of the project it was forked from sipXecs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_Communications_System_sipXecs). We do want to have a page for the new project however under the new name. I've added sources, I've simplified, not sure why now this is 'not notable'. Thanks, Mike Mpicher (talk) 12:17, 15 October 2015 (UTC) Effectively you are telling me that you are paid to edit that draft, is that correct? -- Sam Sailor Talk! 12:24, 15 October 2015 (UTC) What are you talking about? No. This is for an open source project (www.sipxcom.org / wiki.sipxcom.org). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpicher (talk • contribs) 14:25, 15 October 2015 (UTC) @Mpicher: I am talking about you saying that SipXcom was forked from SipXecs, and that's what VP of Product Innovation at eZuce, Inc. one Michael Picher does here. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 19:11, 17 October 2015 (UTC) 13:48:03, 15 October 2015 review of submission by DanielgalvinOBE DanielgalvinOBE (talk · contribs) Draft:Daniel Galvin (2) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) Hi Sam, Your comment on submission suggested that I was writing an autobiography when this is not a case - I am Sonia Lall writing about Daniel Galvin - a prominent person in the hair industry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanielgalvinOBE (talk • contribs) 13:48, 15 October 2015‎ (UTC) Hmm, ok. Strange choice of username. I see Voceditenore has posted on your talk page. If it's partly a matter of you forgetting passwords to the other accounts, please say so so we can remove two of the three drafts and move forward. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 15:57, 16 October 2015 (UTC) DanielgalvinOBE, why did you claim on Draft talk:Daniel Galvin (2) that your name was "Jessica Psalia"? Does more than one person have the password to this account and is more than one person using it? That is strictly forbidden. Voceditenore (talk) 16:12, 16 October 2015 (UTC) Oh, did they claim another name over there? *Sigh* Thanks, Voceditenore. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 16:16, 16 October 2015 (UTC) Hi Sam. I've asked for clarification on User talk:DanielgalvinOBE here. Then I'm going to ask an administrator to look at the situation. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:41, 17 October 2015 (UTC) Hi Voceditenore. The older accounts are stale, otherwise we could have filed an SPI. I'm all for WP:PI, but in a case like this we could maybe circumvent WP:LIGHTBULB-symptoms with a very simple cure: either you or I write a short stub on Daniel Galvin. Then the drafts can be left to a silent G13 death. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 19:02, 17 October 2015 (UTC) Hi Sam. Yes, I'd thought about a preemptive strike as well. I've done a couple of those at AfC, although in both cases they were caused by editors who simply could not wrap their heads around "no copyvio". I guess the main problem here is that an article might then be the subject of constant inappropriate "improvements". The two previous accounts ( User:DanielGalvin1 and User:Colourguru2015) are not worth worrying about, but this current account is almost certainly being shared by 2 employees of a PR agency hired by Galvin. That will certainly have to be dealt with if that account keeps editing. Voceditenore (talk) 09:55, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Voceditenore, you are right and I have posted a {{Uw-paid1}} on their talk page. Yes, a Daniel Galvin would have to be watched, but at least we would save precious time at AfC trying to explain the BLP policies and declining the drafts. But I'll heed your advise any day. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 11:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC) I think I'm going to go ahead and create a brief article, and we'll just have to watch it. I note that Daniel Galvin had been deleted in 2011 as copyvio and blatant advertising. It appears to have been created by someone from a different PR agency. Plus ça change and all that. {{{Sigh}}}. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:29, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Mais oui, Voceditenore, après nous, le déluge! ;) Can I be of any assistance? My gut feeling from when we met once in an BLP about an oboist (?) is that you'd rather DIY. Could I collect a bunch of {{cite book}}s with quotes and drop them in a sandbox for your consideration? -- Sam Sailor Talk! 15:08, 18 October 2015 (UTC) It's blue now. Put it on your watchlist and heaven help us! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:26, 18 October 2015 (UTC) To editor Voceditenore: Brohoof! -- Sam Sailor Talk! 19:18, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Moving forward, I am the PR representative of Daniel Galvin and writing this article freely and for no profit as he is a prominent person in the hair industry such as Charles Worthington and Vidal Sassoon that both have pages. I have been unaware of the strict structure of Wikipedia and the guidelines but would appreciate any help on how to move forward and make one final edit for the page to be accepted. Or does the page have to be completely deleted and re-created to be reconsidered? Jessica Psaila (talk) 10:07, 20 October 2015 (UTC) @Jessica Psaila: An article on Daniel Galvin has been made in main space by Voceditenore. I don't think it is marginally possible to believe that you were trying to write an article about Daniel Galvin for no profit when you run a small PR company and list him as a client. I'm always glad to help other people who without auxiliary motives edit on Wikipedia and contribute to this extraordinary experiment. Single purpose accounts should read our policy Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and edit accordingly. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 10:41, 20 October 2015 (UTC) Aboobacker Amani (Calicut Review) Now added some of reffsEditorFromAsia (talk) 12:03, 16 October 2015 (UTC) @EditorFromAsia: Aboobacker Amani is not only not notable, the article you created makes no credible claim of significance. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 12:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC) Your query on my ml.wikipedia talk page കാലിക്കറ്റ്‌ റിവ്യൂ was created by an IP 163.47.13.22 on 8th october 2015. Other accounts involved in editing is CalicutReview SunnyCJoseph 2406:5600:5a:1fd7:f1d0:c85b:ae84:2c55 Ranjithsiji Sriharitvm AamPP And thankyou for your warning of ഉപയോക്താവ്:Sriharitvm . i will double check what ever he has edited . Irvin calicut (talk) 08:15, 17 October 2015 (UTC) Follow up 2. Me to pretty sure that UserRanjithsiji is not involved as what he did was trying to revert some edits by them. you can leave userranjithsiji out of this . Thankyou Irvin calicut (talk) 09:02, 17 October 2015 (UTC) Thanks. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 09:03, 17 October 2015 (UTC) Regional At Best Hi Sam Sailor. Could you keep an eye on Regional At Best? User:JohnBelsha created it after you and I redirected the Regional at Best article. Yeepsi (talk) 18:15, 17 October 2015 (UTC) @Yeepsi: Yeah, sure, I'll watchlist it. Did you try to address the creator directly? It might be a simple situation where they are convinced the album is viable under NALBUMS, but they want to have credit for creating it. Obviously per normal spelling the article should be at Regional at Best, the one you redirected. Best, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 18:22, 17 October 2015 (UTC) @Yeepsi: Moved it to their user space. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 18:30, 17 October 2015 (UTC) MOS on List of WWE personnel Do you think List of WWE personnel passes WP:MOS?-Keith Okamoto (talk) 22:51, 17 October 2015 (UTC) If you have specific concerns, I'd be glad to help. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 22:53, 17 October 2015 (UTC) Thanks, I saw what you did on the List of Total Nonstop Action Wrestling personnel page and I was just wondering about the List of WWE personnel page and seeing if it passed MOS.-Keith Okamoto (talk) 23:03, 17 October 2015 (UTC) No worries, let's get back to work. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 23:09, 17 October 2015 (UTC) EMA edit. Sam Sailor, add the list of European and other continents winners, as cited, because they had been removed as a result of the vandalism and left out of dateElaych22 (talk) 09:01, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Do me the courtesy and link to the article you are talking about, thanks. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 09:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC) http://uk.mtvema.com/voteElaych22 (talk) 09:41, 18 October 2015 (UTC) That's an external link. Are you talking about 2015 MTV Europe Music Awards? 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This e-tea's remains have been e-composted SwisterTwister talk 05:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC) A nice, yummy cuppa, just what I needed, thank you for the kind gesture, SwisterTwister. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 09:42, 22 October 2015 (UTC) Jonnie Craig -jonnie craig page. Made an edit to make it more concise and to the point. There was a lot of useless information up there. The edits were made to make it a more simple and broad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.104.16 (talk) 23:11, 21 October 2015‎ (UTC) Thanks for bringing this to my attention, 86.31.104.16. I had a look at the article again, and it is in dire need of better sources. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 10:16, 22 October 2015 (UTC) Request on 04:30:34, 23 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Dawit Tesfa Dawit Tesfa (talk · contribs) User:Dawit Tesfa/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) why was my article denied Dawit Tesfa (talk) 04:30, 23 October 2015 (UTC) It was declined for now, but you are encouraged to work on it. Please read the advice given in the pink and grey box on the draft, and in my comment: follow the links, read the instructions, then ameliorate the draft accordingly. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 08:22, 23 October 2015 (UTC) DYK for Rubus durescens Materialscientist (talk) 13:42, 23 October 2015 (UTC) Vandalism on "Your Highness" Hi, I made an addition to the "Your Highness" article earlier and you reverted it, claiming it was vandalism. Do you really believe that calling that movie a "stoner" film constitutes vandalism? Note the title. Thanks 110.32.147.60 (talk) 13:16, 24 October 2015 (UTC) No, you are right, it is good. Thanks for correcting me. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 13:20, 24 October 2015 (UTC) 1884 Yes, we are discussing the matter on Dada Lekhraj. The correct date is 1884 which supported by references. The 1876 date is wrong. --79.64.208.41 (talk) 20:32, 24 October 2015 (UTC) regarding new page rejection Xodus 11:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC) UPDATED BELOW *** nick@xodus.com NicholasReedy (talk) 01:56, 25 October 2015 (UTC) Draft:Govberg Jewelers Thread retitled from "Goverberg watches draft". by Watches1521. 1521 is part of their address, 1521 Walnut St. It's either them or a PR person. Doug Weller (talk) 10:28, 25 October 2015 (UTC) @Doug Weller: Fine observation. When they asked 10 September "why the article sounded like it could be read as an advertisement" my answer was this. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 11:36, 25 October 2015 (UTC) Good answer! 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Nothing indicates that this mag had any lasting impact in the gay community, let alone that it made any impact in the world in general. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 22:09, 27 October 2015 (UTC) About the talk page of Internet Horror Movie Database Hello Sam Sailor, in the talk page of the internet horror movie database you have writtern: "Nothing to do here, it's not a valid request. Please refrain from cross-posting, this looks identical to your filing at ANI. Notice that the AfD closed as a redirect to Antony Coia and further edits on this talk page will largely be in vain." What do you mean? That there aren't any possibility in the future to re-open the page? Thank you--Pizzole (talk) 14:40, 26 October 2015 (UTC) No. It just was not a valid edit request. It was a verbatim copy of what you subsequently posted at ANI. Please take my advice: stop the argumenting now and take some time off from Wikipedia. You are not doing yourself a favor right now with what you write on ANI. I say this with a good and kind intention. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 15:26, 26 October 2015 (UTC) Hi from Supdiop Thread retitled from "Hi". Hi Sam Sailor, I instructed him to submit the draft on IRC. Later looking at the condition of the draft, I thought it's better to improve the draft before submitting. Thanks - Supdiop (T🔹C) 11:47, 27 October 2015 (UTC) You removed a reference (the only one) in the process. No worries. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 11:49, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Yes, I removed it because it was a primary source anyway. - Supdiop (T🔹C) 12:00, 27 October 2015 (UTC) So? Don't do that. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 12:01, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Why? Aren't we allowed to edit drafts? - Supdiop (T🔹C) 12:05, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Yes, same rules apply in draft space as in main space. Has nothing to do with you removing the ref in Diff of Draft:Non-Discrimination Symbol without any explanation. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 12:10, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Help for an article Hey I just saw that you declined my article. This person is a reputed singer and dance and is famous in many places. I am new to wikipedia so I would be thankful to you if you could help me out here. Thank you Draft: Umer Jubapu If he is reputed and famous it will be easy to find sources and show his notability. Please read the advice given in the pink and grey box on the draft: follow the links, read the instructions, then ameliorate the draft accordingly. Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either: Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when. Thank you. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 12:44, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Thank you! Thank you for the help! I have completed The Wikipedia Adventure and I feel it has made me a better Wikipedian. :) Keep doing what you do! JLanzer (talk) 15:02, 27 October 2015 (UTC) @JLanzer: Thanks, I'm glad I could inspire. Anything you feel uncertain about, just drop by and leave me a note. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 18:14, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Akamai revert Sam, the problem is that there are other WP articles using the word Akamai besides the corporate one. The disambiguation page lists them. But if you enter Akamai, you get sent to the corporate article. This short circuits the disambiguation page and keeps anyone who just remembers Akamai and doesn't remember the other relevant words (such as "v. Limelight" or "Foundation") from being able to find any of the other Akamai entries. This redirect should never have been created. Is it worth the trouble to fix? I will leave it up to you, since you undid my possibly inept attempt to fix it. PraeceptorIP (talk) 15:24, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Thanks for your message, PraeceptorIP. It's a little difficult to add something that has not already been said at Talk:Akamai by User:Niceguyedc. At Akamai (disambiguation) we have a Wictionary link and: Akamai may refer to: Akamai Technologies, a company that develops software for web content and application delivery Akamai Foundation, a sponsor of the American Mathematics Competitions, founded by Akamai Technologies Akamai Techs., Inc. v. Limelight Networks, Inc., a patent case involving when patent infringement may be found when a patented method is performed by a group of persons Akamai, a Bionicle toy combined from the Tahu, Pohatu, and Onua sets The word "akamai" is defined in Wiktionary as intelligent, smart, clever (see link at upper right) Is it possible that somebody out there thinks e.g. about the court case when they think of the word "Akamai". Could be. Is it possible that somebody out there thinks e.g. about the Foundation when they think of the word "Akamai". Could be. But that does not change what I assume is the logic applied here: is it likely that most people when they think of the word "Akamai" are looking for the company, Akamai Technologies? And from Akamai Technologies we have a hatnote to Akamai (disambiguation). Makes good sense to me. Historically it's likely cases like this that spured people to carve a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT into stone. Best, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 18:09, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Irish goodbye edit Hello, Sam. I confess I haven't done much Wikipedia editing, so I'm not sure to go about what I was trying to do. I was trying to remove the redirect for "Irish goodbye," which currently goes to a fairly unremarkable recording artist for the title of one album. The real meaning of the phrase, to leave a party or social gathering without telling anyone or saying goodbye, might not even be notable enough for a full Wiki page... but it also shouldn't be used for this rather obscure redirect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.163.197.148 (talk) 22:53, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Hi 75.163.197.148. I get what you are saying, and I see your point. I'm just not sure what to do in this case, so I have posted at WP:HD. Thanks, I think your point is valid. Best, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 23:07, 27 October 2015 (UTC) I turned Irish Goodbye into a DAB including a {{Wiktionary}} link, have a look. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 05:49, 28 October 2015 (UTC) Draft:Akhtar Raza Khan review Hi if you are an admin can you please review my article here. Ejaz92 (talk) 11:35, 28 October 2015 (UTC) Help Me Please help me know how to eddit pages and add new stories here so help me Mr. Sam Hanith Amo (talk) 13:07, 28 October 2015 (UTC)