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How do users get banned from editing?

Is there a "report" function? Or does an admin just happen to stroll on by and ban after checking edit history? How does it work? The Verified Cactus 100% 00:24, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

As far as I can tell (also somewhat new here), multiple avenues can be taken to deal with the issue. Should a user engage in disruptive editing, sockpuppetry, bullying or other bannable offences, other users will issue warnings on their talk pages. Should these warnings mount, or if the user refuses to heed them or engage with them, an administrator is notified. They can investigate their edit history and interactions with other users and act accordingly. If this plan of action fails, there is always (gasp) ArbCom, where investigations get very serious indeed.

Out of curiosity, has a specific incident and/or user prompted this query? - Stormy clouds (talk) 00:56, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

PS - I am quite likely to be entirely incorrect here, and am ready to learn a thing or two on this process myself in such an eventuality - Stormy clouds (talk) 00:58, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Hey The Verified Cactus, Stormy clouds. There are multiple ways but here are some highlights. After a user has been sufficiently warned (typically through an escalating series of warning templates, see WP:WARN) (though you don't always start at a first level and go up incrementally, it depends on the severity of the issue), after the editor persists with whatever the issue is, they are reported for a block at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism (WP:AIV). Another way (see the discussion just above this one) is because of a username problem. That happens through Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention WP:UAA. Another avenue is people who are found to be sockpuppets. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations. Another is through a report and discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (WP:ANI). See also the notice at the top of that page, which list other noticeboards that blocks may issue out of, such as Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Another rather large source is just administrators doing various rounds. For example, I do a lot of copyright patrolling, and when I take action on a copyvio, I may look at the editor's other edits (where there's smoke there's fire). If I find lots of copyvios, and the user has not been issued a final warning, I will issue one, and if there's copyright violations after I check back → block. That sort of activity can of transposed to other areas. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:49, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh I forgot to mention. This is all about blocks, not bans, which is what I think you were talking about. A ban Is something else.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:35, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

As User:Fuhghettaboutit says, those are how users get blocked, and a ban is something else. Users can be site-banned from the English Wikipedia by consensus of the community at WP:ANI or WP:AN. Users can also be banned by the Arbitration Committee. Banning is a formal process that also results in a block. You were probably actually wondering about blocks. I suggest that you read both the blocking policy and the banning policy. They contain information about bad behavior to avoid. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:10, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I just saw that someone was banned just because some people wanted it and nobody helped him, so I think it can happen to anyone any day. I don't think that's right. Dolberty (talk) 13:56, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

That quite simply isn't the case. Whilst any administrator can issue a block, if they do so without good reason then a) the block will be lifted and b) the administrator risks having their tools revoked, or even being blocked themselves. Bans, as explained above, are something else, and can only be imposed after community discussion. In other words, it can't happen to anyone - if you are blocked or banned, there has to be a good reason for it. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:04, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

The administrator wrote that there were enough votes and there was no reason to wait. Dolberty (talk) 14:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

I think you must be mistaken, Dolberty. Blocks should not imposed according to any voting system. Could you provide a link to the discussion concerned? Cordless Larry (talk) 14:17, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

That said, people do sometimes use the term "!votes", but discussions should be closed by taking into account the quality of arguments, not just the numbers. See WP:!VOTE on this. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:25, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

My guess is WP:AN#User Roadcreature / Guido den Broeder. Lectonar (talk) 14:19, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

In which case, my point stands - there were very good reasons to reinstate that particular ban. Again: you cannot be banned/blocked for no reason. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:32, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't understand everything, but Lectonar you just voted and ignored what he said. He asked for evidence and you didn't give any. That's not ok. But I don't want to get involved. I have a school project to do and I am leaving this topic. I just saw that it can happen to anyone simply because people don't like you, and that's still what I see. Dolberty (talk) 14:45, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with people liking you. Hardly anyone here actually knows anyone else, so liking or disliking a person doesn't come into it. The only criterion is whether or not your behaviour is good for the project - if you are disruptive, you get blocked/banned, regardless of whether you're the sweetest little old granny on earth or a tattooed thug with personal hygiene issues. Conversely, you can be a raging psychopath and as long as you stay within the rules, you can edit here forever. It's nothing personal. Yunshui ^雲_水 15:00, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Sometimes people say you behave badly because they know that is how to get rid of you, not because you really did. It has happened to me in school, so I know. Dolberty (talk) 15:37, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

User:Dolberty - I don't know what happened to you in school and am not sure either whether I want to know or whether I am interested. However, you seem to have decided, after two days of experience as a Wikipedia editor, that Wikipedia isn't fair and that it treats some editors badly. I won't spend much effort trying to persuade you otherwise, because, when an editor starts off with the idea that the system is unfair, it usually isn't worth trying to reason with them. The particular case in point is proving controversial, but the real issue seems to be whether the user, who had previously been banned for very good reasons including sockpuppetry, was unwisely unbanned and needed to be banned again. This isn't the place to argue that case, but the case is about whether the punishment was appropriate to the crime, not whether the editor was punished without a crime. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:24, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, you guys! And yes, I meant blocked, not banned, my bad. The Verified Cactus 100% 20:27, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Robert McClenon I didn't expect it to be fair and came here anyway, but I do think there was no crime so that is the case I am making. I also think that people shouldn't be punished more than once for the same crime but that is not what happened here. Dolberty (talk) 15:09, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

User:Dolberty - We have been trying to guess what your issue is about. Either you are referring to something else, or is there is plenty of evidence of an offense. Maybe you are saying that, once a punishment has been reduced (even if imprudently), it should not be reinstated. But maybe we are not discussing the same case, because you say that there was no crime. As I said, I don't know what happened to you in school, but you obviously are looking for miscarriages of justice. You might be able to help Wikipedia by finding actual miscarriages of justice, because I am sure that there are some, but just coming in deciding that you are looking for evidence that the world is unfair doesn't help anyone, not us, not victims of injustice, not yourself. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:49, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't have to look any further if that was my goal (it isn't) because this is one. He asked for evidence and nobody had an answer. Now you, too, say there is plenty of evidence, but how can you, Robert McClenon, know when nobody provides any? Dolberty (talk) 13:44, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Inquiries from Nazim Hussain Pak

How to change Username?

My current Username is Nazim hussain Pak. I want to change it to Nazim Hussain Pak. Please guide me how I can change my Username.

Sinner (talk) 10:15, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Nazim hussain Pak. See Wikipedia:Changing username. You can use the link on "Simple" under Wikipedia:Changing username#Venues:. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:05, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Why wikipedia and wikimedia commons are so porn?

If Wikipedia and Wikimedia commons are just for educational purpose, then why are so much porn pictures on wikipedia and commons. Most of these pictures do not have any educational purpose, these are just to have a porn website. Only a small number of pictures are enough to cover educational purpose. Why all porn material from wikipedia and Wikimedia commons is not being deleted?

Sinner (talk) 00:04, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

@Nazim Hussain Pak: Hello and welcome. Please see the content disclaimer. Wikipedia is meant to be a collection of all human knowledge and as such it is not censored for any reason. Yes, the article about the male anatomy will have pictures of it throughout the article; the article about the female anatomy will have the same; the article about sex will have pictures dealing with that. Note that 'porn' has a very specific meaning and that usually does not include basic images of anatomy. If you do not want to see images that offend you, you can visit this page for instructions on how to suppress them on your computer. 331dot (talk) 00:15, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Reading this page may also help you understand this. While Wikipedia will not remove images just because they might be offensive to someone(which is the case with many types of images, not just images of human anatomy or the human body), if you feel that an image is truly inappropriate for an article, you should bring it up on the article talk page of the article the image is in. I realize this may not be what you want to hear, but I hope this helps you understand how things work here. Please ask any other questions you have. 331dot (talk) 00:17, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Nazim Hussain Pak. Adding to the above, it is an important principle here that Wikipedia is not censored. What one person considers porn, another person may consider educational. That being said, I am not aware of indisputably pornographic images here on Wikipedia. We have some explicit photos used to illustrate specific topics. If you can mention a few articles, that that would be helpful. Wikimedia Commons is a free image repository, and it has its own policies and its own administrators. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:27, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Pictures are still being displayed!

I have turned off pictures from page Nudity on my skin.css page. The pictures are still being displayed. Please edit my page skin.css such that its pictures are not displayed to me. Thanks!

Sinner (talk) 03:31, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

@Nazim Hussain Pak: Perhaps don't go to the page Nudity if you don't want to see naked pictures? It's pretty easy to avoid pages with possible naked or suggestive pictures if you pay attention to the title of the page.

I've fixed your common.js and common.css per the instructions here. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 03:44, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Turn off images of these articles for my browsing

I admit that the tools are available to turn off images but the problem is that I have tried my best to use these tools but I could not activate the tool on my account. If I completely turn off the pictures then I will not be able to see pictures from those articles which are not prohibited in my jurisdiction. I tried to turn off pictures from some specific articles. I tried not to make some mistake but I remained unsuccessful. This is the only problem. As an experienced wikipedian, if you turn off pictures of these articles by editing or asking someone other to edit my skin.css page, then I shall be very thankful to you for your kindness.

• Nudity
• Toplessness
• Topfreedom
• Nudity in film
• Nudity in sport
• Pornography
• Naturism

Sinner (talk) 08:15, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

@Nazim Hussain Pak: Help:Options to hide an image#Disable images on specific pages says "create a page at Special:Mypage/skin.css". The link is supposed to redirect you to a page for your current skin at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering, for example User:Nazim Hussain Pak/vector.css if you have "Vector". I see you created User:Nazim Hussain Pak/skin.css instead. Maybe the redirection doesn't work in your browser. You can also add the code to User:Nazim Hussain Pak/common.css to hide the images no matter what skin you have. Here is the code for either css page:

.page-Nudity img {display: none;}
.page-Toplessness img {display: none;}
.page-Topfreedom img {display: none;}
.page-Nudity_in_film img {display: none;}
.page-Nudity_in_sport img {display: none;}
.page-Pornography img {display: none;}
.page-Naturism img {display: none;}

PrimeHunter (talk) 09:18, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Writing colorful text

I want to ask how I can write colorful text in wikipedia?

Sinner (talk) 04:24, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

@Nazim Hussain Pak: You're looking for Help:Using colours. Please be aware of and follow the guidelines at WP:COLOR and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Color, too. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:29, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Good User

What are qualities of a good wikipedian?

Sinner (talk) 06:31, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sinner. A good user is generally considered to be someone who is WP:HERE as opposed to someone who is WP:NOTHERE. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:46, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Nazim Hussain Pak. I think that understanding and upholding Wikipedia's five pillars is an important part of being a good editor. Looking at your own contributions, I see that you created the articles Chak Shafi and Chak Choti Shafi. Both of these articles are lacking in references. If you look at the pillars and at Wikipedia:Verifiability, you'll see that readers of articles should be able to check that information has come from reliable, published sources. These two articles will need to have references to such sources added, or otherwise the unsourced information is likely to be removed. I also note that with this edit, you added the comment "The information is based on my approximation" to the Chak Shafi article. You should never add your own approximations to articles - only information that can be verified by checking reliable sources. I hope that helps. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:14, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Nazim Hussain Pak. I would say that a good Wikipedian always tries his or her best to improve the encyclopedia. S/he works with others as well as possible. S/he is WP:CIVIL. S/he finds and cites appropriate sources for statements in articles, both ones that s/he has added, and ones that need citation when s/he starts to work on an article. s/he generally complies with guidelines and policies, except when there is a very good reason not to. Even more, s/he complies with the consensus of other editors. I would also agree with all the comments above. None of us is the ideal "good Wikipedian" at all times, but many strive to achieve that ideal. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 13:33, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello again, Nazim Hussain Pak. I have been searching for possible sources to use in the two village articles, and I'm starting to wonder if they are in fact both the same place. The co-ordinates given in the infobox take me to the same location on a map. Could you clarify, please? Cordless Larry (talk) 13:44, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I am going to redirect Chak Choti Shafi to Chak Shafi, as that appears to be the correct name for the village. If you object, Nazim Hussain Pak, please reply here. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:34, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

My problem is at its place!

From early morning, I have been trying to turn off some pictures and pictures from some specific articles. I have tried my skin.css. But the entries that I enter in it do not turn off images. The advice to not visit these pages is also given to me by many users but I want to visit these pages without seeing their images. I am in search in search of a helper who will turn off pictures from these articles by editing my skin.css page.

• Nudity
• Toplessness
• Topfreedom
• Naturism
• Pornography
• Nudity in film
• Nudity in sport
• Female body shape

Is someone on this great encyclopedia to help me???

Sinner (talk) 17:06, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Rather than starting a new section with the same query, please post in the section about this above, Nazim Hussain Pak (making sure that you have read the replies you have received there). Cordless Larry (talk) 17:31, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Help with Draft:Edna Meade Colson

Hello Wikipedians. I was adding an infobox to Amaza Lee Meredith and I noticed that there wasn't a page for her partner Edna Meade Colson Draft:Edna Meade Colson. I attempted to create a page for her and it failed review because my writing was too closely synthesized from the source material.

Dr. Colson is considered noteworthy, but I lack the skills to create an article. I am now familiar with her life and work, so if an interested editor would reword the article, it would provide me a great deal of information on creating an acceptable article in the future. Thank you WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:24, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello WomenArtistUpdates and welcome to the Teahouse.

I took a look at your draft. I agree that this draft could form the basis of an encyclopedia article, but you need to find some more references to substantiate factual assertions in the article. One symptom of too-closely following another source is that you may not develop your own sources. You have several citations, you need to find a few more and then write your article based on what the sources say. If you don't have a source for some factual matter, you leave that out.

If, after you go through this process one or more times, you don't feel like the article provides a suitable picture of the subject, it may mean that you have to dig some more. Or it could mean that there are not enough sources to create an article at this time.

So my advice is to go through the material you looked at to become familiar with her life and work, determine how reliable each one is, and see how the information you've gathered supports Dr. Colson's notability by Wikipedia standards. It's not always easy, but you get a great sense of accomplishment when it's all done. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:15, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello jmcgnh

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question and looking at my draft. The way I understood the comment by the editor was that the references were fine and the subject was notable. The issue the editor had was that I had cribbed too much material. Evidently it matches the source material too closely ("A nice article on a notable subject but too closely synthesised from here. Please rewrite in your own words"). I did my best to write the article by just stating the facts and in my own words, but failed. I was hoping that an experience writer would take a shot at the article so I could see how one uses "their own words".

Thank you also Cordless Larry for cleaning up the references. I will use that coding in future.

Anyone with an interest in African American Virginian Feminist Educators Draft:Edna Meade Colson please take a look and help a rookie writer :) WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:27, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Can I use an Italian Wikipedia page as a source?

I noticed that a wikipedia page is missing in English so I thought about translating it. Would be it ok? Thanks! gionogioGionogio (talk) 18:18, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Hey Gionogio. You can't use the it.wiki article as "as source" per se. However, if that page itself is cited to reliable sources, you can translate it into English using the same sources as the Italian article. TimothyJosephWood 18:35, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome @Gionogio: There are certain steps you should follow if you do a translation. See Wikipedia:Translation.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:06, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Why don't you tell us which article you're thinking of working on, Gionogio? Not every article in it.wp would necessarily be found suitable for this Wikipedia, and it would be a shame if you did a lot of work and then found that it couldn't be kept. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:55, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks you all for answering. The article I wanted to translate/write is this: it:Francesco Giomi. He is a professor at the Conservatory where I'm studying, plus he is the actual director of Tempo_Reale and a notably electroacustic composer who has worked with Luciano_Berio and others great names. Please let me know now if I can go on, now I'm not to work on it everyday cause I've got exams to pass. But I thought on contributing in electroacustic music since I'm studying that. Thanks again! gionogioGionogio (talk) 10:14, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Hey Gionogio. Well the first thing that pops out on the it.wiki article is that it doesn't include inline citations, which are required for any contentious material about a living person whether that material is positive, negative or neutral. So my instinct in this instance is that your language skills might be better put to use reading the sources in Italian, (and there seems to be a lot of them) and then trying to write an English article more or less from scratch, rather than trying to do a 1 to 1 translation of the Italian article.

Maybe you can use the Italian article as a general guide, for example, to make sure you don't miss anything important, but since you really need to include inline citations, and figure out where exactly the information is coming from, you're kindof already doing to hard work involved in writing a brand new article.

If you need extended time to work on it, you may want to consider starting it as a draft, which can be done by clicking on Draft:Francesco Giomi. TimothyJosephWood 15:19, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you TimothyJosephWood, I'll start as a draft! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gionogio (talk • contribs) 10:41, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

My first edited article

Well, I was, this is my first edited article when I'll did it.Gregory R (talk) 22:30, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

What? HillelFrei^{• talk •} 22:36, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, that's pure gibberish. Gregory R, what in the world are you talking about?...if anything. --Thnidu (talk) 14:43, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

How to add links.

Hi I started this originally to just play around but then I found out how I could help. All I need to know is how to include a link in an article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tasty Gamer (talk • contribs) 01:48, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello Tasty Gamer and welcome to the Teahouse.

I suggest you take a look at Help:Referencing for beginners as a place to get started. References are really important when you add material to Wikipedia and this should help. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:05, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Tasty Gamer. By "links" do you mean links to other Wikipedia articles, or links to web sites not part of Wikipedia, or links as part of citations to sources? They are handled differently.

• Links to other Wikipedia articles are made by enclosing the name of the article in double square brackets. For example, if I wanted to link to the article "Energy" I would enter [[Energy]]. This would render as Energy. If I wanted a different word to display in the article i would "pipe" the link. I might enter [[Energy|activity]] which would render as activity.
• Links to external web sites should appear only in an "External links" section near the end of an article, or in a few limited cases, in an infobox, usually near the start. They should never be placed in the text of the article body. Please read our guideline on external links for what links should and should not be placed in articles. Excessive linking is not acceptable.
• Citations to sources that can be found online should include a URL. As jmcgnh says above, Help:Referencing for beginners and the pages linked from it explains in detail the ways to format and insert citations, including the user of URLs. I personally prefer the methods using cite templates, but that is in no way required, and some other experienced editors prefer other methods.

I hope this is helpful. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 16:09, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Linking section of Manual of Style without explanation about linking to automatic translation sites ...

There are certain references in an article about surveillance in a police state. The best source of info you have about such cr@p are pieces of information relating to the stasi files (much better going with Deutsche Gründlichkeit than with "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is" types of Clintonesque). How do link to an automatic translation sites? You would route a link to: http://www.gvoon.de/ddr/stasi/dokumente/woerterbuch/zersetzung-operative.html as https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gvoon.de%2Fddr%2Fstasi%2Fdokumente%2Fwoerterbuch%2Fzersetzung-operative.html Albretch Mueller (talk) 03:21, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome back to the Teahouse, Albretch Mueller.

Sources in other languages are allowed on Wikipedia, there is no requirement to provide a translation. I suggest citing the original and users who need help can invoke automated translators of their own choosing. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:28, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Albretch Mueller, while not required, there are two things that are fairly common practice, and will make things much easier for readers.

1. Use the |tran-title= parameter in a citation template such as {{cite web}} to provide an English-language version (manually translated please) of the title of the source. if you do this, please also use the |language= parameter to specify the language that the source is in.
2. Use the |quote= parameter to give a brief manually translated quote that makes it clear how the source supports the statement(s) in the article.

Neither of this is at all required, but I think that both are good practice. I would advise against linking to any particular automated translation site. Those who wish to use machine translation can select their own site. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:51, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

May I know why are you deleting my articles

My articles are often deleted without no reason. I know that I did not put reference in the article Fault(geology), but 1 guy did not put a suitable reference (citation number 7) in the part of Strike-slip fault. So instead of his/her part, why did the Wikipedia delete my part. I request you not to delete my article.Badri K Vishal 2006 (talk) 15:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Note: Question already answered at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 617#May I know why are everyone deleting my articles., and sockpuppetry reported at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Badri Vishal and Mansi Krishna. Cordless Larry (talk) 15:54, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

However, to explain, this was not a case of deleting an article, but of reverting an edit, and, if an edit is reverted, it should be discussed on the article talk page. I don't see any discussion at Fault (geology). Making the same edit again after the edit has been reverted is edit-warring. Please discuss rather than edit-warring. (Of course, if you are a sockpuppet, please go away, but this is general advice.) If your English is such that you don't know the difference between deleting an article and reverting an edit, please consider editing the Wikipedia in your first language. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:01, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Badri K Vishal 2006: comparing one bad edit with another is not a good idea. If you add information the responsibility lies entirely with you to add a suitable reference to back up what you say. You have a history of adding poorly or unsourced information to science topics which resulted in you being indefinitely blocked from editing on 4 June, see User talk:K. Badri Vishal#May 2017. Since then instead of addressing this issue you have consistently tried to sidetrack the block by creating new accounts and continuing the poor standard of editing. Until you address your behaviour and understand what level of competence is needed to edit Wikipedia and then apply for your block to be lifted on one of the existing accounts, your accounts will continue to be blocked on sight. Do not continue to create new accounts; as the responses above show your current conduct receives no sympathy at all. Nthep (talk) 16:07, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Need counter-vandalism assistance

I recently spotted that User:177.42.223.250 seems to have a habit of adding unsourced claims about dates of birth or death to biographical articles, and then linking those articles to Wikipedia pages about the claimed years of birth (or death). See Special:Contributions/177.42.223.250. I have spent an hour or so reverting some of those edits, and have now also discovered a similar pattern by another anonymous account: Special:Contributions/191.33.96.84. Sigh.

Unfortunately, I don't have time to review (and revert, if appropriate) all these edits today; perhaps not even this month. But that doesn't mean that these dubious edits should linger any longer than necessary.

In general, is there a way for me to flag up an editor to have their edits reviewed? I looked at Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit, but did not see an obvious place there to file such a report. (Did I overlook anything?) I also looked at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism but it seems to be more about requesting blocks than reviewing/reverting edits, and is only applicable if the vandal is likely to be active in the immediate future. Please WP:PING me in your reply. Thanks! zazpot (talk) 18:25, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Zazpot. I don't know of an appropriate place to report this sort of thing. I have just reviewed the edits of Special:Contributions/191.33.96.84 and reverting a number of them. Note that as per WP:DOB, we should not usually give the exact date of birth of a living person, and never if it is unsourced, as it all too often is.

The standards for what gets included on the year pages are in my view much too vague. They get many fewer eyes since we stopped routinely linking years in articles. Thanks for this report. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi DES, thanks for your reply and for helping to revert some of that user's unconstructive edits. Disappointing that there isn't a more structured way to handle this sort of thing. This is not the first time I have encountered a situation like this, but I think it is the first time I have reported it to other editors. If I wanted to propose a structured way to resolve such situations, would Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals) be the right venue? zazpot (talk) 22:27, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

That would be fine, Zazpot. On further thought, a report at WP:AN would be appropriate. I don't know that this sort of thing happens often enough for a noticeboard of its own. But you could propose it, and see what people think. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 22:34, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks DES. I'll give some thought to how best to proceed. zazpot (talk) 10:30, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Education Credentials

I recently posted some education credentials and foreign languages on the Mykel Hawke Wiki. An editor (Rivertorch) removed them, citing verification. What is needed to verify? Mykel Hawke is a commissioned Army officer, and a 4-year degree from an accredited university is required to become an Army Officer. The degrees are a BS in Biology from UNY and an MS in Family Counseling from UCA. He is rated in 7 foreign languages, again through the military and their language schools, which is in his author's biography of his bestselling language book, already linked/referenced on the Wiki page. What is needed to put these credentials back on? KMartin529 (talk) 18:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

KMartin529, welcome to the Teahouse! I don't know anything about Mykel Hawke, but just had a quick look at the article's history. I guess the edit you are concerned about is this one. The person who reverted your edit was following policy, because your addition to the article did not provide any sources for its claims. In future, when introducing new claims to any article, please also add one or more footnotes to reliable sources where other editors can verify those claims. Thanks, and happy editing! zazpot (talk) 20:20, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Noting for the record that I directed the OP here after a somewhat lengthy discussion on my talk page. Sourcing was the primary issue in play, but there are other concerns. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 17:36, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Review

Hi - I wrote my first article yesterday in sandbox and submitted for review. It was reviewed and declined due to inadequate sources - only one. I've since added numerous sources. What is the process to re-evaluate my article? Does the same editor have to do so, or another editor? Thanks in advance :)BCPdigital (talk) 18:50, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

@BCPdigital: Just click the "Resubmit" button at the top of the sandbox draft. RudolfRed (talk) 19:08, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Question

Hey, If a user vandals their own userpage/talkpage, is that eligible for a revert? Or they are free to type anything in their userpage/talkpage? This is because I have seen IP Addresses quite a few times now who do that on their own page, and always wanted to ask if they had to be reverted. Adityavagarwal (talk) 22:30, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

If depends, Adityavagarwal, on what sort of vandalism you mean. Random profanity? feel free to revert. See WP:UP for what is or is not acceptable on a user page, although that is aimed more at the page for a logged-in user. Users are given more freedom on their user pages than on almost any other page, but there are still limits. Attacks may not be hosted there, nor what amount to personal web pages (see WP:CSD#U5). And of course copyright infringements may not appear anywhere on the project. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 22:39, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

 Done Could you see this? However, despite his final warning, he keeps doing it. I reported the IP Address. Adityavagarwal (talk) 22:49, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Also, thanks as always for the help. Adityavagarwal (talk) 22:56, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

@DESiegel: Hey, it doesn't seem to me that he has been blocked yet, despite your edit. Adityavagarwal (talk) 22:57, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Block log:

• 18:51, 26 June 2017 DESiegel (talk | contribs | block) blocked 68.228.254.131 (talk) with an expiration time of 1 week (anon. only, account creation blocked) (repeated vandalism) (unblock | change block)
• 22:23, 17 March 2017 Oshwah (talk | contribs | block) blocked 68.228.254.131 (talk) with an expiration time of 72 hours (anon. only, account creation blocked, cannot edit own talk page) (Disruptive editing) (unblock | change block)
• 23:56, 29 January 2017 Northamerica1000 (talk | contribs | block) changed block settings for 68.228.254.131 (talk) with an expiration time of 23:47, 30 January 2017 (anon. only, account creation blocked, cannot edit own talk page) (Vandalism) (unblock | change block)
• 23:47, 29 January 2017 Northamerica1000 (talk | contribs | block) blocked 68.228.254.131 (talk) with an expiration time of 24 hours (anon. only, account creation blocked) (Vandalism) (unblock | change block)

Oops I had failed to block the IP editor's talk page access. Done now. Sorry. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:24, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Not enough sources for Caroline Gaudriault

Dear All,

I have received a notice from Domdeparis telling me, my article about the author Caroline Gaudriault has not enough secondary sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Gaudriault I have red the definition and informations about secondary sources but I do not really understand what he means. Every information in my article has a source and a proof. If I am writing that Caroline wrote an article for Paris-Match and I am attaching this article , I think it shows proof. Can you please tell me why this does not count ?

Thank you very much , I appreciate any help,

Sylvia

Sylviafine (talk) 09:57, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Further guidance has subsequently been given on Sylvia's talk page (though that doesn't preclude an answer here). Dbfirs 11:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sylviafine, you need sources about her, written by other people. Dolberty (talk) 13:37, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Sylviafine. It looks as though this has been resolved on your talk page, but here's one way to look at it: an article written by Caroline would be a primary source; an article written about Caroline (or about her article) would be a secondary source. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 13:39, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Your secondary sources have to be from credible publications or internet links: if someone's book is so notable then a review from a major source saying so would be needed; if her writing is so notable then an article(s) from a major publican(s) should say that. So, if someone is notable because of their writing then there should be numerous reviews about that work from numerous publications of renown. The local community paper is not as credible to the world as is the London Time of NYT, and a review by a local community paper is not as credible to the world as is a major literary reviewer. None of these should be written by the person that the article is concerning.2605:E000:9152:8F00:BCCF:CA70:DEFE:9AC0 (talk) 17:30, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Whistle-blower options

I have knowledge about unethical/criminal activities of a large corporation I work for as an independent contractor. I have worked with a journalist who published an article based on the information. It was published in Buzzfeed two years ago with significant documentation. I would like to write a few sentences on the wikipedia entry of this company and cite the article written by the journalist, but, I do not want to be identified as the source of the wikipedia post because I don't want to lose my position. Is there a way to do this?108.14.66.225 (talk) 13:06, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. Registering an account may enhance your privacy because your IP will no longer be publicly visible when you've logged in. However, your anonymity cannot be guaranteed under any circumstances. In any event, if the alleged activities of the corporation were already reported in the media, then it sounds as if the whistle has already been blown. Maybe the relevant Wikipedia article should reflect that, maybe not; it's impossible to say without knowing the exact details. But Wikipedia isn't a vehicle for righting great wrongs, and it is usually not a good idea to write about companies you work for or contract for. (See our conflict-of-interest guideline for more information on that.) Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 13:14, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Major Contributor Cleanup

Hello,

I am new to my organization and was curious about a notice on the Museum’s Wikipedia page that says, “A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia’s content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page.”

From looking at the history of the page, it appears someone with an organization-related name made several updates to the exhibits, special events, and history of the Museum in 2014, which might be the cause of the notice. I don’t have records or account information for that account and I’m not sure if the editor was a former employee or not.

We do have an account, which I changed the name to comply with Wikipedia’s username policy. I will only be using the account to update the accuracy of the page, usually with current information on which exhibits are on display and which are part of our core collection. I’ll, of course, add media articles and links to the Museum’s website as sources for the updates.

My question is how can we get the notice removed from the top of the page and are there steps to avoid having it come back?

Thanks! Sarah at SDMOM (talk) 15:08, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello Sarah at SDMOM and welcome to the Teahouse.

I don't think that COI template notice on San Diego Museum of Man can be removed at this time. Your editing of the page is governed by Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy and your direct editing of the page would be another reason for the notice. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:31, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sarah at SDMOM, I'm afraid you can do absolutely nothing about that edit notice, in fact if you edit the article that would be reason to add such a notice if it didn't already have one. As you are an employee of the article subject you are required to declare your conflict of interest as a paid editor. Your use of the plural "we" raises another concern, a user account may be used by only one person, not a group or team. Your idea of adding "current information on which exhibits are on display and which are part of our core collection" is contrary to the prohibition against promotion. The best advice I can give you is to never edit the article about your organization, or any of its clients, staff, associates or any other connected person or entity. You are however welcome to post suggestions for improving the article to its talk page that other editors who have no conflict of interest can act on if the proposals are acceptable. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:36, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Adding Information About a Photographer & Historian:

I am a historian and I took many photos during my tenure as a police officer in the City of Huron, California. I am also a writer and appear in many of Richard Street's books about Huron. My name appears in 'red' as the owner of a number of photographs on the Huron California Wikipedia Page. How can I create a profile for myself as the author within the scope of Wiki policies??? 24.205.122.93 (talk) 15:11, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Your User page can contain information about yourself as it relates to your contribution to Wikipedia. So the first step would be to register a username, then write that user profile (within the user page guidelines). Then you can add a link to your user page in the relevant image pages. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:20, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

i lost my mobile phone and it said emergency EE. Any advances?

i lost my mobile phone and it said emergency EE. Any advances?79.78.80.137 (talk) 15:14, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:21, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

However, if you Google "Emergency EE" I think the answer is the second match - Arjayay (talk) 15:51, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Remember that we don't all get the same results in the same order from a Google search, Arjayay, because the results are partly dependent on your browsing and search history. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:13, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

creating page

Hello sir, Now, I'm creating a new page of "hacker nucleus". I have perfect references and external links but I do not know how to start. Can you help me please?

By the way Hacker Nucleus is a social hackers news org who is also trying to aware people for cyber security. Deadline43 (talk) 15:59, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Perfect references will be documents where the subject has been written about extensively in independent WP:reliable sources. Google does not find these for me, and only brings up promotional material, much of it written by the subject's publicity agents. Perhaps you could point us to better references? Dbfirs 16:11, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Someone is edit-warring my supportive contributions, what can I do about this?

Dear Wikipedians,

I would like to resolve an issue between another user and I. A user by the name of @Joobo: reverted a contribution of mine three times in a row, for no apparent reason. This happened on the Carbonara article. My contribution was adding a photograph that I believe to be helpful (the second image), as it showcased the main ingredients of the dish, for readers to see in a glance.

The user did not give any reason for removing my photograph, other than linking to WP:NOTCOOKBOOK. And nowhere does WP:NOTCOOKBOOK forbid including supportive images on food-related articles. Furthermore, if he wants to justify his reverts, linking to a WP guide is not a substitute for an actual argument, in my opinion.

The user says that I should "Get consensus for inclusion of the image first". But to me, I think it makes more sense for him to get consensus on excluding the photograph. I believe my contribution is helpful to readers, and complies with the rules. What is the next step here? Who should get consensus, and why? Thank you. Amin (Talk) 16:07, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Both of you seem to be edit warring and at risk of being blocked, so please stop changing the article and instead discuss your differences on the talk page of the article. Dbfirs 16:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) WP:NOTCOOKBOOK states that articles should be enyclopedic, and not read like a cookbook. You should be the one to get consensus, as your contribution could easily be interpreted as sounding like an entry in a cookbook. If you truly think your image is helpful to the article, having previous consensus to back your decision up would avoid the accusations of edit warring you seem to be under right now. Regardless of content, though, the fact remains that 3RR still applies, as no one is reverting blatant or obvious vandalism. So Joobo was correct: you are edit warring, and should stop reinserting the image unless you have consensus to reinsert it, as you are on the edge of breaking 3RR and most likely being blocked for edit warring. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:28, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@A lad insane: He reverted me 3x, I reverted only twice, yet I am the one "on the edge of breaking 3RR". Three is more than two, you know. More importantly, why do you believe that I am the one who needs to get consensus? You don't state any reason to what the rule is, and who should get consensus when, other than pointing that I reverted his initial revert. Amin (Talk) 17:30, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Clarification--Jocobo is not the person who mentioned warring.2605:E000:9152:8F00:BCCF:CA70:DEFE:9AC0 (talk) 17:13, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Amin. While there is a prohibition on making more than three reverts in a 24-hour period, edit warring is a little more complicated than that, and it's probably not helpful to count who reverted more; the important thing is to stop reverting regardless of what the other editor does. There's a policy on edit warring—Wikipedia:Edit warring—that every editor should read, and there's also an essay—Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle—that has excellent advice about what to do in these situations. If you read the essay, you'll see that what's missing here is any discussion on the article's talk page. That's where you need to explain why your edits should stick. If your explanation is sound, consensus should develop to indicate that. This can take hours or weeks. In the meantime, there's no reason to feel any urgency about it. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 17:53, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@Rivertorch: Thank you for your thoughts on this. I will do just that. I will bring it up on the Talk page, to let others weigh in. Amin (Talk) 05:07, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

What to do in the case of no free photo for an article

If there is no copyright free photo for an article, can I upload a low resolution (151×194) version of a copyright protected photo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikshya (talk • contribs) 17:02, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

What article would the picture be for? -A lad insane (Channel 2) 21:03, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Ikshya it is not required that every article have a picture. Copyrighted images can be used only if they fullfil all of the 10 provisions of Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. Many images will not pass this test. Images of a living person will almost never do so. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 00:23, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Word Count

How do I get to where word count can be found for an article or portions thereof?2605:E000:9152:8F00:BCCF:CA70:DEFE:9AC0 (talk) 17:06, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Greetings and Welcome to the Teahouse... At Article size it describes how to find article size and a tool that can be used for number of characters in an article. Hope this helps. Cheers! — JoeHebda • (talk) 05:33, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

How do I unbold text?

I'm trying to list the players on the NFL top 100 players of 2011 (as well as 12-17) with indications that the players are pro bowlers and hall of famers. The only problem is that when I try to do this, the text becomes bolded and centered. Is there a way that I can shift the text over to the left and them unbold it? While at the same time it has the "cross" sign and the background color. Can you help me out? Thanks -VinVinnylospo (talk) 18:11, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

For reference: NFL Top 100 Players of 2011 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 00:24, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the problem was that you started the "style" section to set the color with a "!" rather than a |"|. I have fixed this for the one cell you had done in this edit. See Help:Table#Color; scope of parameters for more details. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 00:39, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Problems with two articles

Hello, three days ago, user Bilby placed a COI template in one of my articles - Erika Lemay -. When I asked him why, he said that, based on my previous editions, he supposed that I had been paid for that article. I told him that is not true, I explained that anyone can do that article since she is a recognized artist, but he insists - our conversation is in his talk page -. Now, casually - or not so - another editor directly marked as AfD other article, Nancy Ruth (singer) - which is a translation of an article I originally made in Spanish Wikipedia -; this page had just been reviewed 8 days before, without any observation. I can feel that there is a connection between these two events, but I will assume good faith. Can anyone review both articles and tell me if it's okay what those editors have done? I must clarify that many years ago I made some declared paid editions, but my experience was absolutely negative in several respects - not only for the articles themselves, but for the treatment I had from other editors -. I would like to know if I should stop editing or uploading articles, because there will be publishers who will always presume that my editions are paid for.--Ane wiki (talk) 18:36, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Ane wiki. I have done an analysis of the sources used in Nancy Ruth (singer), and posted it to the deletion discussion. The discussion usually runs for 7 days, and the article may be edited to improve it during that time. If you can find and cite additional independent published reliable sources that discuss Ruth in some detail and at some length, please add them to the article and then post to the deletion discussion saying that you have done so. You may also give your reasons for thinking that the article should not be deleted, if you choose.

I have also posted to the talk page of Bilby, the editor who posted the COI tag on Erika Lemay. Please note that that editor is quite experienced, and says that there is evidence of COI editing. If you really were paid for that article, or have any sort of COI, you would be well-advised to declare it promptly.

It is OK for anyone to nominate any article for deletion at any time, particularly a relatively new one. Reasons must be supp;lied, and after the discussion, the closer will evaluate the reasons and evidence supplied by the various comments in the discussion. A previous review of an article by a single editor in no way prevents this. Opinions on such matters my well differ.

It is OK for any editor to place a COI tag on an article in the sincere belief that it is warranted, although evidence must be shown if requested.

I hope these comments are helpful to you. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 00:20, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

1st Wiki article- need some help!

Hello everyone!

I'd love to have some input on the beginning of my first article, making sure I am following the Wikipedia guidelines. If someone could take a look it would be fantastic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Clealm/sandbox/Minnesota_Street_Project

Thank you in advance. Clealm (talk) 22:06, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Clealm, and welcome to the Teahouse. Not bad for a start. I made a few minor edits for formatting. Yoiu will want more sources, and based upon those sources, more content, if possible. At the moment it doesn't fully establish the notability of the topic, but more reliable sources that discuss it in some detail will help with that.

At the moment the tone is somehow slightly promotional to my eyes, although i can't say just why.

Please remember that in the various cite templates the |work= parameter, or its aliases |website= or |newspaper= should be used for the actual name of the publication being cited. The |publisher= parameter can be used also, but leave it out if it is redundant with the work's name. For example, when you specify work=The New York Times it adds nothing to also specify publisher=New York Times Company, even though it is technically accurate. In any case, never use a web domain for work or website, unless a website has no other name. I hope this helps. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 01:21, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

How can I remove deletion tag from wikipedia page

Today, few hours ago I added a new page to the wikipedia on Hacker Nucleus and an exprienced editor marked that page for speedy deletion. Please tell me anyone how can I remove that tag. by the way I already provided so many references and external links for verification and I can add more if you want. Please tell me what should I do now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadline43 (talk • contribs)

Link of that page

Hacker Nucleus

@Deadline43: Hello and welcome. In looking at the article you created, it does not have independent reliable sources that indicate how it meets the notability guidelines for websites. You do give sources, but they only cite basic information like when the site was founded. What is needed are sources that describe the website itself and indicate why it would merit inclusion in an encyclopedia. I would also note that since the website you wrote about was founded in March, it may be too soon for an article about it. If you have things like news stories about this website, or independent reviews, or anything that explains why this website merits inclusion here, please point it out on the article talk page.(click "talk" at the top of the article)

Please understand that successfully creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia; it takes time, practice, and effort. New editors who dive into creating articles often experience difficulty for this reason. The editors who are most successful are those that started small with small edits to existing articles, which allowed them to learn how Wikipedia works and gradually move up to creating an article. You may want to read this page about creating your first article to learn more about it; there is also Articles for Creation which gives a step by step process and a chance for feedback on it. If you have any further questions, please post them here. 331dot (talk) 22:34, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Deadline43 I am sorry to have to tell you that I just deleted Hacker Nucleus. Id did not in any way indicate why the site was significant or important, or why it might be notable. All the cited surces were published by Hacker Nucleus itself, none were to Independent sources. Moreover, i did an online search and could find nothing that was both significant and independent. The next time you want to try creating an article, first find several independent sources that discuss the topic in some detail. Then base the article primarily on what those sources have to say. Start with a Draft, not in the main article space. follow the good advice given by 331dot above. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 01:36, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Cropping images

Is it possible to crop Wikimedia images when using them in articles?User-duck (talk) 22:24, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, User-duck. Yes. For example, you can download any image from Wikimedia Commons to your computer, and use any image processing program to crop it or increase the contrast or whatever you want. Then, you can upload that modified image to Wikimedia Commons, but you must state the file name of the original image as the source. Your modified image is a derivative work. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:33, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

It's easy to use CropTool for this.

Also, {{CSS image crop}} is sometimes appropriate. Eman235/talk 00:49, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

How do I removed a category tag from an article?

Hi, I would like to remove articles from a category because I don't think it belongs there. But I can't seem to find a way to edit the category, or remove the category tag from the article. Does anyone know how to do it? Do I need to download special editing tools?

Thank you! Jing3094 (talk) 22:43, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Jing3094. The wikicode that puts an article into categories is usually at the very end of the source code. You can add or remove categories by editing that part of the code. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:37, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Cullen328, (sorry, I don't know how to incorporate your name link into the text). Thank you for your reply. I tried what you suggested, but the category tag is still there. Here is the link of the article I was talking about : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathy, could you please take a look, if possible? The tag I was referring to is on the right hand side of the page, and it says "Alternative medicine and pseudoscience". I would really appreciate it! Thank you!

Jing3094 (talk) 01:19, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Jing3094, that is not a category but rather something called a sidebar. In this case, it is called Template:Alternative medicine sidebar. Please do not remove it without gaining consensus on the article's talk page. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

As for creating a username link, the easiest way is to type {{u|Cullen328}}, which appears as Cullen328. Hope this helps! Player 03 (talk) 03:44, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Jing3094. What was confusing here was a jargon issue. A category has a very specific meaning on Wikipedia. What you are here about is the display of a template. Removing it would not be uncontroversial. Rather than doing so, I suggest starting a discussion on the talk page of the article, i.e., Talk:Osteopathy, stating your reasons for wanting it to be removed.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:57, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Is there an where to talk besides the "Talk" page

I know the point of Wikipedia is not to talk with other users but is there somewhere where people discuss topics, especially for WikiProjects? I am working on researching and filling out at least basic information on all native american weaponry and engineering. I went to a few relevant pages such as "Project Aztec" and "Indigenous peoples of the Americas" but they all seemed dead or is this normal? Sorry for these questions, just trying to get the feel for the community around here.

Thanks.

MercOfTroy (talk) 22:46, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@MercOfTroy: Hello. I think you are looking for the Reference Desk. 331dot (talk) 22:53, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure the Reference Desk is what MercOfTroy is looking for here, 331dot. If I have understood correctly, then Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America and its associated talk page, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America, look like what you're after, MercOfTroy, and seem to be reasonably active. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

...although the mention of WikiProject Aztec suggests that you might be more interested in South America, so apologies if my suggestion is not helpful. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:00, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Invitation

New editor, more than 10 edits, more than four days, not warned/suspended... No invitation to the Teahouse?

User:Spikesgirl58

Oddjob84 (talk) 00:32, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Oddjob84. There is a bot which automatically invites a certain subset of new editors to the Teahouse, but not everyone. Any human editor, including you, can invite anyone to the Teahouse, as you see fit. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:43, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

I poked around a bit and found {{subst:welcome-t}} which seemed to work pretty well. Random character sequence (talk) 02:45, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Hosts/Database reports/Automated invites#Invite criteria says: "they created their account within the past 36 hours and have since made at least 10 edits." Many recent invitations were for users with down to 5 edits so the criteria have apparently changed. Spikesgirl58 only had 4 edits after 36 hours. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:13, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Good to know anyone can do the invitation. Thanks @Cullen328:. @Random character sequence: thanks for the invitation code, and thanks for doing the invitation. I have saved it to my parts bin. @PrimeHunter: True, but she did have 10 edits in the first week. Sounds like you'll miss plenty of invitations if the bot is really written like that. Come to think of it, I was never invited, I found the Teahouse on my own. Oddjob84 (talk) 11:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia pays

Does Wikipedia pays for contributions

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drswaseem (talk • contribs) 05:51, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Drswaseem: Short answer: No. Long answer: Read this. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:04, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Why was my article deleted it?

I wrote an article about National Cotroceni Museum and it was deleted. I don't understand why.Anonim2016 (talk) 07:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Anonim2016: Hello and welcome. The article was not deleted, but changed into what is called a redirect to what appears to me to be an existing article on the subject, Cotroceni Palace. This might be because the museum is located at the same place as the palace itself. The text you put appeared to be promotional in nature, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. It appeared promotional because it described things like the operating hours, price of admission, and other information that might be good in a travel brochure, but not an encyclopedia. If the existing article is missing information, you would be welcome to provide it, if you have independent reliable sources to support it, but it needs to be in an encyclopedic style. I would suggest you look at other similar articles, such as others about museums(Smithsonian, British Museum, Louvre) to learn the style that is being looked for. 331dot (talk) 07:38, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

(ec) Hi, Anonim2016, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not the one who reverted your edits, but I think it was deleted because it was duplicating the existing article Cotroceni Palace. The page you modified (National Cotroceni Museum) is a redirection to Cotroceni Palace, so placing the same info there was counterproductive. --CiaPan (talk) 07:41, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks!Anonim2016 (talk) 08:09, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

But you have to know that the National Cotroceni Museum is a museum and Palace Cotroceni is official residence of president of Romania. They are different things. Anonim2016 (talk) 08:11, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Anonim2016: As I stated above, since they are at the same location, they currently have the same article. However, if you feel that the Museum merits its own article, you should start a discussion on the article talk page(click "Talk" at the top of the article). It probably would only merit its own article if there was significant independent information about it separate from that of the Presidential residence. I don't know if that's the case or not, but the article talk page is the correct venue to discuss that. 331dot (talk) 08:16, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Anonim2016: In addition to what User:331dot wrote above please note, that User:Chrissymad who reverted your changes gave a comment Rmv promo to his reversal. So if you start adding information about a museum to the article (or start a new one), please keep your information strictly objective, with no emotional or promotional tone. See WP:NOTPROMO for more explanation.
I strongly recommend you start with visiting Wikipedia:Your first article.
Good luck – and don't hesitate to ask more questions! Editing Wikipedia is not a simple task, and everybody was a beginner. --CiaPan (talk) 08:27, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks!Anonim2016 (talk) 10:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Do you know what is the real problem? The page Palace Cotroceni has in her content a lot of informations that are about museum. I am a employed of museum, how can I give you the proves that I represent this museum and I want to make a page for museum, a individual page.Anonim2016 (talk) 10:59, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

That is not a problem at all.

I feel you're trying to tell us your position is stronger as an employee of the museum. But that's wrong. On contrary, if you are actually connected to the subject, you should not write about it. Please read the Wikipedia policy on Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for more information.

Even more, if you are assigned a task of extending, updating or maintaining Wikipedia information as a part of your job, you must disclose the connection as described in the Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure policy.

Additionally, despite being the museum worker or not, your contribution should be neutral and verifiable, as decribed in Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:Verifiability policies, to be accepted. Otherwise it can be simply deleted. --CiaPan (talk) 12:53, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

No, I just want to find a solution. This is my homework for my job, but I understand... thanks!Anonim2016 (talk) 13:46, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Citations...

Hi,

How do I cite my sources? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, RullRatbwan (talk) 08:09, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@RullRatbwan: Hello and welcome. A good place to start would be this page which provides an introduction to citing sources. 331dot (talk) 08:18, 28 June 2017 (UTC

@331dot: Thanks, 331dot. RullRatbwan (talk) 08:19, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Please help and guide. And tell me how to close an account, if nobody is here to help

It is to seek help. 2-3 editors are harassing me for none, despite making them clear I am unable to understand them. In Francesco Clemente I did what he said but he reverted again. I think they are connected and against me. They are harassing WP:HARASS me at every edit and doing this repeatedly maybe due to mutual connection and taking revenge of my discussion in the Teahouse previously. I have no concerns whether they keep articles or delete. Please see my COI going on. It was a huge mistake that I joined Wikipedia and thought to edit it contribute. they don't want anyone to update Wikipedia and outdated info, they have self-grudges and due to small issues which already exists in millions of articles they like chasing a few people and articles. I am done with it. They are just placing tags wildly and I wish them good luck to ruin Wikipedia at their best. I don't know why they don't respect Good faith terms and all others like policy against harassment, WP:ASPERSIONS. I am really fedup, I have to visit a Dr for the torture they are giving me again and again by accusing the same thing again and again I am exhausted. Please help me out or simply tell me how to close this account or to talk someone sensible. They are also involved in WP:HOUNDING While there are discussions already they are doing the same thing again and again, by reverting changes and loading my page with warnings WP:HUSH. I already said and swear that I'll disclose my COI in the future edits if any I don't know what to do. I thought not to hide anything and therefore I chose my name, please guide how to request a username change as I think I am being Harassed due to my gender as a female. HeatherMPinchbeck (talk) 08:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. I'm sorry your experience at Wikipedia hasn't been more positive. It looks as if you've already changed your username, so that question is resolved. The place to report behavioral issues such as harassment is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The allegations you're making are extremely serious, and if you stand by them, I suggest you file a report there. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 17:28, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

I have blocked HeatherMPinchbeck for copyright issues, promotional editing, and concerns of undisclosed paid editing indefinitely. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:35, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Help- proposed that this article be deleted

Hi Teahouse members and team!

Thank you for the invitation to join the Teahouse.

I'm new on editing Wikipedia and I'm getting flustered. Could you kindly go through the first page I created and kindly let me know what I'm doing wrong. In the mean time I am reading up on the suggestions given.

Thank you.

TheDesignBender (talk) 09:41, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Is this about Olusegun Adejumo? Maproom (talk) 18:48, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

How to confirm socks puppet?

Found that multiple accounts or IP made the same editors. One of the accounts was confirmed to be socks puppets. And this account has a lot of socks puppets. Can I think that those IP or accounts that are not recognized as socks puppets are socks puppets?

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Born_A/Archive--delete the content

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incorporation_of_Tibet_into_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China&type=revision&diff=783743966&oldid=783743404
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incorporation_of_Tibet_into_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China&type=revision&diff=768990627&oldid=768491455
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incorporation_of_Tibet_into_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China&diff=prev&oldid=768386870
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incorporation_of_Tibet_into_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China&type=revision&diff=763625680&oldid=763393798
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incorporation_of_Tibet_into_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China&diff=prev&oldid=760024234

--O1lI0 (talk) 10:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@O1lI0: it is likely that these are the same user but as the edits were made weeks apart and this is a set of dynamic IP addresses it's not sock-puppetry as they weren't using the addresses at the same time. Whether they are related to Born_A is difficult to say on behavioural evidence. Nthep (talk) 18:00, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@O1lI0: and Nthep, imho the Teahouse is not an apropriate venue to discuss this topic. A sock puppet investigation is a technical process best left to competent experienced people to get on with it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:31, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank for comment.I understand.O1lI0 (talk) 04:07, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Investigation about writing userpage content

I see userpages of different users. They write data like religion, what they like and their country such that some picture and title is written in a colorful line and data is in white place below these lines like the userpage of User:Cordless Larry. I want to ask how these features are created.

Sinner (talk) 14:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sinner. Please see Wikipedia:Userboxes, and especially its subsection at Grouping userboxes, as well as the Wikipedia:User page design center. You might also take a look at Help:Table, because the specific user page you flagged, Cordless Larry's, makes use of table markup to group his userboxes. Often it's easiest to simply copy and paste code that works, but then tailor for your own purposes by replacing the userboxes seen in the code, with the ones you want to display for yourself (if you can make sense of the code to that extent). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:40, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Photos and Positioning

I have a question regarding how to add photos.

Also how to move to table to the left.

Also how to link Facebook and Instagram to wiki page.

Cedwards757 (talk) 14:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Centralized discussions

Hi! Is there a guideline, policy, etc. that says that discussions should stay in one place (i.e. that responses to a comment should appear under the comment, not elsewhere, like on the commenter's talk page)? I assumed that such a guideline exists, but I cannot find such a guideline. Please let me know if there is one, and, if so, what it is. Thanks! Noah Kastin (talk) (🖋) 17:38, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

No there is not, to the best of my knowledge, Noah Kastin. It is generally considered a good practice, however. It used to be common on Wikipedia for talk page conversations to be split, each editor replying on the other's talk page so that the other would be notified. Then came the development of talkback templates, followed by WP:PING notifications, and now that style of split conversation is rare, although I saw one just the other day. If you find a split discussion confusing, and you are a participant, you can ask the other participants to keep it in one place, and as a matter of courtesy, they should comply. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:26, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, DESiegel! I will notify the other user in the relevant discussion accordingly. Thanks again for the advice! Noah Kastin (talk) (🖋) 20:39, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Article not being indexed by search engines

I've read that after a new Wikipedia article has been created, it is indexed by Google or other search engines in as quickly as 15 minutes and not taking more than a day. An article I recently created and was accepted, Dave Min, can't be found by using a search engine to search for it. I looked at the page information and it said that it had no Wikidata Item ID while almost every other Wikipedia article seems to have one. Is there anything I can do?Harris-san (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello Harris-san, and welcome to the Teahouse. New Wikipedia articles are not indexed by search engines until they have been checked by a member of the New Page Patrol (WP:NPP), or a certain amount of time has passed, whichever comes first. I have read both 30 days and 90 days for the time period, I am not sure which is correct. The exception is that editors with the Wikipedia:Autopatrolled right have their pages counted as patrolled at the moment such pages are created. None of this has anything to do with the existence of a Wikidata item for the article. I believe that such an item must be created manually, but I am the wrong person to advise on that aspect of Wikipedia DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 19:59, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

'Wikipedia:Services Awards' question

While this does not have to do with editing, are there any editors who are the highest level there? (Vanguard Editor/Lord Gom, the Highest Togneme of the Encyclopedia, 132,000 edits at least and 16 years on Wikipedia. I have looked through the archives a little but usually they are no longer contributing or are inactive except for their talk pages, etc. I know there are many editors that have (sometimes far) more than 132,000 edits, but are there any ones who have both criteria? I would like to reward them, even though technically they are self-awarded things. Thank you! SuperTurboChampionshipEdition (talk) 19:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@SuperTurboChampionshipEdition: According to Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Vanguard_Editor, User:Pitke is one editor that has that award. RudolfRed (talk) 22:06, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

The highest award ranks have been updated multiple times or new ones have been added to retain the "impossible award" joke. I have the VGE because my contributions span over multiple Wikis and I was miffed that despite my edit count I couldn't legitimately get the shinier badges because I didn't join Wikipedia in its infancy. So I'm combining my service years in my most active wikis for the purposes of this informal award. --Pitke (talk) 13:22, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, SuperTurboChampionshipEdition, and welcome to the Teahouse. I don't know if ther is any user who has both 132,000 or more edits and at least 16 years on Wikipedia. I think that the editors who maintain the service awards have tried to design things so that the top award is still out of range for everyone, and will (perhaps) create a new one after the current top has been achieved. Please don't take the "service awards" too seriously. And please, don't give them or "award" them to any other user. Some users dislike them and will be displeased. Some prefer one version of them over another. Some have slightly different ways of counting edits or time served. Let people manage such awards themselves, if they choose to, please. If you see someone doing somethign that strikes you as particularly good, and to be encouaged, you can award them a WP:BARNSTAR. There are many of these, for widely differing purposes and occasions. Many (but not all) editors value barnstars. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 6:26 pm, Today (UTC−4)

Wanting to add some information on Bobby Osborne's wikipedia page.

Valerievalpal (talk) 20:09, 28 June 2017 (UTC) <copyright violation removed> Valerievalpal (talk) 20:09, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Valerievalpal: - I've copied your above posting to the talk page for the Bobby Osborne article. Hope this helps. - NsTaGaTr ^(Talk) 20:16, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@NsTaGaTr:, this had numerous hallmarks of a copyright violation and it was. I have redacted the page history here as well as reverted you at the article talk page and redacted the page history there. Please check for these. You might find Wikipedia:New pages patrol#Copyright violations (WP:COPYVIO) a useful read. Thanks. Valerievalpal: you must not copy and paste other people's writing anywhere on Wikipedia. I will post a more detailed message about this at your talk page.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:30, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks @Fuhghettaboutit: - I merely assumed good faith in the matter and presumed that they /meant/ to post it there, but somehow did it here. (*I have multiple wiki tabs open frequently*) I'll be a bit more aware in the future, so thanks for pointing it out. :) - NsTaGaTr ^(Talk) 13:27, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Why page not appearing on Google?

Dear wikipedia pro. A page i contributed on wikipedia does not show up when search the name on wikipedia, Is there any thing i need to do ? Thanks i am ready to be a create contributor.Abanda bride (talk) 20:10, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Abanda bride and welcome to the Teahouse. You need to tell us which page if you want us to look for it. You last edited the page Agbor Gilbert Ebot which contains unencyclopaedic language such as " He is just one lucky man that will never forget 16 March 2017. Gilbert is always thank God for sparing his life", but perhaps you are asking about the page Anafoot or Enyewah Bride Abanda, both of which have been deleted because you did not provide reliable sources to establish WP:Notability. The page Carl Enow Ngatchu has been moved to Draft:Carl Enow Ngatchu so that you can work on it further without it being deleted. Creating a new article in Wikipedia is quite a difficult task, and you might like to spend some time improving existing articles before trying to write new ones. There is some advice on your talk page that you should read. Click the blue links such as Your first article. Pages will not show up on Google until they have been reviewed, or until they have been in Wikipedia for 90 days. Dbfirs 21:01, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Article creation help

Can I get help making an article about The Bedroom Tour Playlist? It's notable because it charted in the Billboard Hot 200 and one of its songs went gold. I could also add some things about its critical reception. Note: I tried making the article before but it got reverted. Ish Ya Boy (talk) 21:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Ish Ya Boy, and welcome to the Teahouse. The Bedroom Tour Playlist was not deleted, however it has been converted into a redirect. The versions you edited did not demonstrate its notability. You should first read our guideline on the notability of music. You would also do well to read Your First Article, Wikipedia's Golden Rule, and [[WP:REFB|referencing for beginners. You will need them all if you are to go forward. You are, in effect, trying to create a new article, which is one of the harder tasks on Wikipedia. I urge you to use the article wizard to create a draft under the articles for Creation project. When and If that draft is reviewed and approved by an experienced editor, the reviewer can move it to replace the current redirect, and merge the history.

here are some steps to follow in this process:

• First, review our guideline on notability, our specific guideline on the notability of music. Consider whether this playlist clearly meets the standards listed there.
• Second, read Your First Article and referencing for beginners and again consider if you want to go ahead.
• Third, Disclose your connection with the subject, if any, in accordance with WP:COI. If you have been or expect to be paid for editing or edit as part of your job, you must follow WP:PAID. This is absolutely required, omitting it can result in you being blocked from further editing.
• Fourth, Gather sources. You want independent professionally published reliable sources that each discuss the music in some detail. If you can't find several such sources, stop, an article will not be created. Sources do NOT need to be online, although it is helpful if at least some are. The independent part is vital. Not press releases, nor news stories based on press releases, or anythign published by the composer/performer him- or her-self or his/her affiliates. Not strictly local coverage. Regional or national newspapers or magazines, books published by mainstream publishers (not self-published), or scholarly journals are usually good. (Additional sources may verify particular statements but not discuss the org in detail. But those significant sources are needed first.)
• Fifth, use the article wizard to create a draft under the articles for creation project. This is always a good idea for an inexperienced editor, but in your case with the conflict of interest it is essential.
• Sixth, use the sources gathered before (and other sources you may find along the way) to write the article. Cite all significant statements to sources. Do not express opinions or judgements, unless they are explicitly attributed to named people or entities, preferably in a direct quotation, and cited to a source. Do not use puffery or marketing-speak. Provide page numbers, dates, authors and titles for sources to the extent these are available. A title is always needed.
• Seventh, when (well perhaps if) your draft is rejected, pay attention to the comments of the reviewer, and correct the draft and resubmit it. Repeat this until the draft passes review.

Congratulations, you have now created a valid Wikipedia article. The approving reviewer will do the rest. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 22:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

How do I post a picture on a wiki page? Having trouble figuring it out.

How do I post a picture on a wiki page? Having trouble figuring it out. PAButcher2012 (talk) 22:05, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi PAButcher2012. As far as I can tell there has never been a file called File:10205175612727977_1072867387463773084_n.jpg here or at the Commons. If by chance you are trying to hotlink to an image that is not yet uploaded here or at the Commons, that will not work. I am posting below some standard advice about images:

• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
• If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.Template:Z40--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:13, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

How to display backlinks on an article page?

Is there any way to display the number of backlinks an article has (mainspace backlinks) -- while viewing that article, without having to click on the "what links here" link? Is there some Javascript or Gadget available to do this? --Hirsutism (talk) 00:21, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

wikipedia's more improvement.

can wkipedia be colourful and more attractive.

H.S. Happy (talk) 00:48, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

If you can contribute appropriate colour photographs that are properly licensed, or can qualify for non-free use, that contribute to article, that will make it more colourful. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:06, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

This thread uses British English spelling. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:06, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, H.S. Happy. There's a delicate balance between style and substance. When I was a kid, before Wikipedia existed, there were at least six different encyclopedias that I used to consult. They ranged from extremely colorful with pictures on nearly every page to dull and gray with the occasional line drawing and even rarer photo (usually black-and-white). Over time, I noticed an inverse correlation: the more colorful and attractive the encyclopedia, the shallower its coverage of topics. Fortunately, Wikipedia has no printing-related costs to constrain it, and no contributor fees to pay, so we can have the best of both worlds. If you have specific ideas for how to make Wikipedia easier on the eyes, you should share them. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 05:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

I know I saw something... Ah yes, here it is: https://wiki2.org/en/Donald_trump Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:29, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Notability

Hello! I'm trying to create an article for Darrick E Antell MD FACS, a well known plastic surgeon in the medical field. I believe he deserves to have an article mostly because of his research in twins basically comparing genes and the environment. His work is constantly cited in sociology, medicine, genetics, and even psychology. I thought I provided valid resources, including primary research articles written by him about his work, various video clips of his interviews on national television, etc. Could you possibly give me any pointers to improve the article? I've noticed other plastic surgeons who have wikipedia pages, but do not have any notable achievement in the plastic surgery and aesthetic field.

I greatly appreciate your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by St2671 (talk • contribs) 00:51, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

What to do about existing pages

Although I have done edits before, mostly corrections (per my screen name), I have often come across the following problem when reading pages, albeit not to the degree of the one I am now writing about. I'd like advice on how to resolve this.

First, some background: I came across a mention of a man named Franz Stangl, who sounded familiar, but I couldn't place him. So I consulted Wikipedia, as I often do, for the relevant facts. Upon reading the entry, I very clearly got the sense that whoever had either written or recently edited this page was whitewashing this convicted Nazi murder's responsibility for his crimes. There's nothing blatantly unfactual; it's more in the style and choice of phrasing and the quotes chosen to represent his "character".

I know Wikipedia isn't a forum for political or social bias, but there ARE certain issues that do come down to the simplest black and white. Nazi murderers who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Jews and the disabled during the Holocaust should be chief among them.

While I know I could contact the last editor listed, I don't really think that would be very productive, nor would it address the larger problem. Any ideas?

(I'm not interested in engaging in debates about Holocaust-revisionist fantasies, so please only respond with useful suggestions.)

Thanks. WriteinEnglish 03:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WriteinEnglish (talk • contribs)

Welcome to the Teahouse, WriteinEnglish. The best way to address content problems in an article is usually either to edit the article to fix them or to begin a discussion on the article's talk page. Sometimes it's better to do both, especially if you're making changes that you think will be controversial or are too extensive to be adequately described in edit summaries. I don't know if you noticed, but there is considerable discussion on the talk page that may be of interest to you, although it is several years old. You could resurrect that discussion or start a new one, whichever better fits your concerns. It's often more productive to phrase what you say in relation to Wikipedia's policies, and one of the core policies that you may find helpful is Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.

By the way, there are no apparent problems with any recent edits to Franz Stangl, nor do there appear to be any significant issues with the earliest versions. (The article was created in 2004.) Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 05:45, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Barnstar

How does a wikipedia user get barnstars?Vinnylospo (talk) 03:13, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Vinnylospo. Wikipedia:Barnstars are given by other users on their own initiative. You cannot apply for it or do specific tasks which are awarded with a barnstar. You can just make a lot of constructive edits and hope somebody notices. Some types of edits may be more likely to produce a barnstar but I don't know which. I mostly get barnstars for helping other users but that's also my most active area with around 20,000 edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:16, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Trouble with WP:CSD#G11

I've been building a page for Accelo on Wikipedia as a fun side project (Draft:Accelo). I'd love some tips on what can be removed or modified so that It's not overly promotional. Indycould (talk) 05:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Indycould. Your draft article is completely filled with promotional language, and almost every sentence needs to be rewritten from the neutral point of view. If you are having trouble seeing this, then perhaps you are too close to the topic.

Consider this bizarre sentence fragment, which is referenced to highly promotional content on the company's own website: "After success with the Department of Planning and Environment (New South Wales) and other Professional service oriented SMBs (Small and medium-sized enterprises)." The article is full of similar jargon and promotional phrases and completely lacks neutrality. Nearly ever sentence has similar problems. Your draft should neutrally summarize what reliable sources with no connection to the company say about the company. Promotional language in Wikipedia's voice is forbidden here. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:39, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Wynyard Group

Hi,

Please review this page and let me know what all changes it need.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:James_aaron/sandbox

Thanks

James aaron (talk) 05:25, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

(The draft is now at Draft:Wynyard Group). Most of the sources cited are not independent, being based on statements made by personnel of the company. It nowhere mentions the rather important fact that Wynard group went into liquidation earlier this year. Maproom (talk) 06:34, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Need help to review and publish Article

Hi, Thanks for having me here. Could some help me with the new article that is written by me. How can I get the article reviewed and published. Could some review my article and help me in publishing it. Would be really helpful if somebody can assist me in doing it. Would apprecitae! Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Regalix Thanks in advance. Henryrichie11 (talk) 06:16, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Henryrichie11. We require references to significant coverage in independent, reliable sources to show that a company is notable and eligible for a Wikipedia article. The sources in your draft are directory listings of fast growing companies. I do not see significant coverage in your current references, which would discuss the history of the company and its products and services at some length. Wikipedia is not a directory of every tech company on various lists.

If you are being paid to write this article, you must declare that. Please also declare any conflict of interest that you may have. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:24, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

My draft has been declined three times, how can I correct it?

Hello, my draft/Joyce Stevens has been declined three times - 1)notability -fixed that I think 2) tone 3) tone again it reads like an 'advertisement'. How can I improve the tone?

Basically I have outlined her public life and achievements and I removed emotional terms like 'courageous' but DrStrauss thinks it reads like an ad. I want to get the draft accepted so I would welcome any help.

I thought I could delete three paragraphs - an introduction summary of Steven's work and two paragraphs of content from her final book summing up her conclusions about women and work.

Do you think this will help get my entry accepted?

Thanking you,

Passionfruitvine.

Passionfruitvine (talk) 08:03, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Help with reference

Hello i am not sure why my submission was rejected. How many references do i need to list? Can someone help me?104.175.112.88 (talk) 08:25, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

how can I prevent wikipedia from vandalism with the help of twinkle

Hello, I'm new to wikipedia, I would like to be a best wikipedia editor. Here I need help to use twinkle to prevent wikipedia from unconstructive edits.

Thanks In Advance :-)

Best Regards Harsh Pinjani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harsh Pinjani India (talk • contribs) 08:34, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Harsh Pinjani India, welcome to the Teahouse. See Wikipedia:Twinkle and Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc, and come back if you have a more specific question. I see you have never edited an article. It may be good to learn more about Wikipedia before using a tool like Twinkle. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:03, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

A moderator (?) is constantly removing my contribution, even though i believe it's legitimate. I tried to contact him three times -he ignored all attemps.

Hello guys, I am a big noob here. I also am not that fluent in English, so forgive me all mistakes .

So I added a sentence and removed another in this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_atomic_bomb_project (You can see most recent contribs in history section). I cited 5 sourced in the article+plus I linked 2 russian wikipedia articles about the topic in the edit summary. Then this guy comes along: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daniel0Wellby_sch and removes my article, writing a post in my user/talk page. No problem, he took it as if i was vandalizing wiki - a mistake! - I thought. I wrote on his user/talk page my objection to his removal, but he plain ignored it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Daniel0wellby#https:.2F.2Fen.wikipedia.org.2Fwiki.2FSoviet_atomic_bomb_project In the scope of the next hour I tried to contact him three times, he ignored it, but reverted my attempts to reinstate the edit. You can see the evidence here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:194.67.216.222#June_2017_2

He didn't answer to any of my explanations about why I added my edit. He also didn't provide a reason for removal apart from the standart copy-pasted message.

It really was a frustrrating experience, and I also don't know what to do. What do I so in such situations? Who do I contact? 194.67.216.222 (talk) 09:58, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

• Daniel0Wellby has only made 32 edits and is certainly not a 'moderator'. We don't have moderators, but there users who need tens of thousands of edits to become Administrators, they are the only one who can block anyone. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:33, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the reply! But what do I do if someone is continuosly removing my edits? On top of that that person with 32 edits gave me 5 warning about 'inappropriate edits' on my talk page! Can he ban me? Do these warnings matter?
• 194.67.216.222, I'm afraid you have been edit-warring all over the place, not simply in your dispute with Daniel0Wellby. It's not going to end well. When your edit is reverted the first time, you need to take it to the article's talk page and start a discussion. Do not simply remove material with a claim in the edit summary that you know better or that the Russian Wikipedia supports your view. No Wikpedia in any language is considered a reliable source. From what I can see, virtually every one of your edits was inappropriate—removal of text with reliable references, removal of reliable references themselves, addition of unreliable sources, serious violations of the Wikipedia policy on biographies of living persons, e.g. [1]. You have been edit-warring in multiple articles, including LGBT history in Russia, Soviet atomic bomb project, Kursk submarine disaster, Ukraine, and Alisher Usmanov resulting in the latter two articles being semi-protected. I strongly urge you to read the guidance at the pages I've linked in bold. Voceditenore (talk) 11:03, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I see you are so butthurt over you loosing argument about Gorky, that you've not only found this question of mine, but also decided to try and write something up. Okay, let's start First of all, you came to this page from another argument with me about Gorky and homosexuality. Hence, I am not surprised that you are opposed to me, even though you are trying to appear neutral, you are doing it very badly. First, all of my edits were sourced. The gorky edit we've argued about was specifically so, because it was about what was written in his specific article, which I read and linked to you, yet you ignored it. Equally so, all the other edits were sourced and cited, as was the edit that sparked my whole contribution.

Also, you are a master of strawmens, aren't you?

«Do not simply remove material with a claim in the edit summary that you know better or that the Russian Wikipedia supports your view. No Wikpedia in any language is considered a reliable source'»'

Perfect strawman. You completely ignored 5 articles (not wikipedia articles, just articles) that I provided as a source.

«From what I can see, virtually every one of your edits was inappropriate—removal of text with reliable references, removal of reliable references themselves, addition of unreliable sources, serious violations of the Wikipedia policy»

I am sorry, who are you to judje them to be 'inappropriate'? Because you don't seem to provide any proof, do you?

Not to mention that I was edit-warned 'several times' by the same warner over the same edit.

I would argue a bit more, but there's clearly no point since you are apperently just butthurt over our argument over Gorky, and i've done my part in convincing other wikipedians as to why they shouldn't trust your comment.

Shame on you. --194.67.216.222 (talk) 11:35, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Actually, I reverted your edit at LGBT history in Russia (which you immediately reverted) after reading your complaint here and checking your other edits to see what was going on before replying. I then came here to outline the wider problems I found before you arrived at my talk page with yet another unpleasant message. You are of course entitled to your opinions, but your aggressive language when people disagree with you will make it very difficult for other editors to collaborate with or even communicate with you. I suggest you dial it back a bit. Voceditenore (talk) 12:34, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Someone is editing on wikipedia multiple times with his IP address

Hello, I was looking at recent changes I found an IP address 76.189.202.139 which is involved in multiple edits. Most of edits has been done in external section. Does it right to revert his all changes?

Thanks in Advance :-) Harsh Pinjani 12:35, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

It's perfectly fine for someone to edit from an IP address, as long as those edits are constructive. To check whether an edit was constructive, click the "diff" link (visible in the page history right next to the date of the edit). If you find an edit that counts as vandalism, then feel free to revert it.

In this case, the user's edits look constructive, so please don't revert them without discussion. Player 03 (talk) 12:51, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

My page has been rejected, what should I change?

My page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_North_Highland_Way) has been rejected for reading too much like a tour guide, I received very little feedback, however, I have edited the areas where the feedback was more specific. I don't want to remove too much of the page, as I feel that I have provided useful information about the route, and the sections explaining the route would appear very empty if I was to remove any more. I consulted the West Highland Way page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Highland_Way) when creating my article and I feel that I have followed a similar format, could anyone provide me with some more feedback or guidance on my article so that I can resubmit it? Thank you in advance. EleanorLC (talk) 13:30, 29 June 2017 (UTC)