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About SockPuppetry

Currently, I'm using Airtel Internet connection and now I'm getting better and faster speed so the IP will be changed, so Basically, I want to know that will I be considered as Sock of anyone who has used that IP before which I'll get in some time? I'm getting Hathway Broadband I have read at WP:SOCK Checkusers considers Sock if the same IP address is being used or ever used by two different users (not Specifically) but by reading it sounds like that only. I can share in Userpage my previous and Current(new) IP address when I'll get connection today in some time. --Siddharth 🤙🏻 Talk To Me!! 11:17, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

• @SidPedian: OK, that's a lot of questions packed in one. In any case: you absolutely do not need to provide a list of your previous or current IP addresses, and I would even encourage you not to do it because people you know might then link you to the edits you make (cf WP:IRL).

On the technical aspect: some (most?) ISP rotate IP addresses between customers (see DHCP). Checkusers and admins involved in sockpuppetry investigations are well aware of this.

On the policy aspect: sockpuppetry is the use by a single person of multiple identifiers (accounts or IP addresses) with the intent to pretend to be a different person. Editing while logged out of your account is fine (as long as you do not claim to be a different person), same for having a changing IP address (you cannot control it, and we do not expect you to monitor it either).

On the enforcement aspect: admins/checkusers should never check an account's technical identifiers (IP address, user-agent) without previous evidence of sockpuppetry. Unless you know something I do not know after a quick look at your talk page, you (SidPedian) are not at risk of being investigated for sockpuppetry, even if you share your network or even your computer with someone who does sockpuppet. Most IP blocks do not prevent to log into an existing account from blocked IP addresses. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 13:53, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

If you look on my User Page, you will see the "disclosure" statement I made to solve this problem. Also, it's not a problem until someone says it's a problem. When someone says it's a problem, then you have a problem. Having a "disclosure" statement that predates the accusation will probably solve it. Mentioning your ISP & internet connection speed improvement will go a long way towards alleviating any concerns since you are providing credible details as to "why". However, if you work on highly contentious/controversial Articles, you could still have a problem. In my time here, I've noticed some Editors make "bad faith" accusations like this (as well as many others) in an effort to win content disputes. There's nothing you can do about that besides "roll with it" and do the best you can. The BEST thing you can do, IMO is remain consistently polite, and role-model good, polite, professional behavior no matter what the provocation, because should your situation come under Administrative review, how you've comported yourself in terms of online behavior carries great weight. The converse is also true. If another Editor is 1) making these types of accusations and 2) violating Wikipedia norms and standards for online conduct, frequently the initiated review, or investigation, can WP:OUCH. IMO, the best defense is to not be defensive. Keep Wikipedia foundational principles, policies and cultural norms at the top of your mind, and ignore all the interpersonal provocations. Also read the "Administrator's Notice Board" for some real-life examples of people that have crossed lines, made accusations and how Administrators have dealt with them. Sometimes, who gets the block or ban is a very dramatic SURPRISE. Very informative, and sometimes very entertaining.Tym Whittier (talk) 16:07, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

It's not a "surprise". Who gets blocked or banned is the bad actor. No advantage is granted to the "first mover" in a dispute. One doesn't win a dispute with someone because one was the first to "report" them to ANI. Indeed, generally admins are smart enough to recognize that the first person to report a dispute is trying to "win" by nefarious means, such as getting their opponent blocked by "tattling" on them. That's not how we work here. --Jayron32 16:12, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

What happens when there are two (or more) "bad actors"?Tym Whittier (talk) 07:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

deleting message about 'no source or citation' in a wikipedia page

Hi I'm only a one-time text provider to one particular page at wikipedia (henry carbine), not a regular editor, so have actually no idea what's what. Someone invited me to come here - I guess that's to ask how to delete the message in the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_carbine

Info and sources are self-explanatory, so I don't know what else to ask, or what additional info to provide.

Thanks MagicRifleResearch — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagicRifleResearch (talk • contribs) 00:10, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

Henry carbine was tagged as having no references because it contained no references. To remove the tag it would be necessary to provide reliable sources (see WP:RS) to support the material. In this case it seems moot as the article has now been redirected to Henry rifle since it was a completely untsourced article about fictional gun. There is no evidence this is notable.. Meters (talk) 00:54, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

MagicRifleResearch, your contributions were there in the history and I put them back. The references now show at the bottom. Meters, this is not just any fictional universe, this is Karl May, also known as Karl May: the best German writer you've never heard of. It has no relation beyond the name to the Henry rifle. We have an entire Category:Fictional weapons with subcategories so Wikipedia does include these things. StarryGrandma (talk) 01:38, 22 May 2019 (UTC) Fix ping

No need to ping me. I didn't redirect it Talk to the editor who did., Meters (talk) 18:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello StarryGrandma (if the name doesn't turn colour I don't know how to do it) - thanks for knowing Karl May. And for putting back the 'Magic' Rifle page. I still don't know about inserting the picture, see below this thread, the next thread is also mine (which I shouldn't have opened, shouldn't have made a new post?) Anyway, I'm not putting up the image of the Henrystutzen until I know wikipedia won't slap my wrists for doing so. MagicRifleResearch (talk)

image and copyright

Hello - again, I have no idea what's what and how it is done. For the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_carbine I have an image. It is an artist's impression of the 'Henry Carbine' as described by Karl May. I own the copyright to the image, but the person who collaborated with me in creating the gun image (a firearms expert) owns the copyright to the gun design. I have the gun designer's permission to use the image as and when for all things Karl May, Karl May literature, or Karl May related things in the broadest sense. But I'm not sure how wikipedia sees this because the image contains the by-line gun design copyright (name deleted - no names here), who is the firearm designer. - Thank you - MagicRifleResearch — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagicRifleResearch (talk • contribs) 00:41, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

Hello for the third time - just as I went back to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_carbine page, it redirected to the Henry Rifle - they are not the same thing. How unfortunate. One whole day's work down the drain. Thanks wikipedia.

Addition - I just read someone's reply - I have no idea what it all means, so I guess I'll take my leave from wikipedia.

One more question - how do I delete my account now? Thanks MagicRifleResearch (I best leave because I have no idea what all the tabs and squiggles mean - something about signing MagicRifleResearch (talk) 01:05, 22 May 2019 (UTC) ?)

Please don't create new thread with each post.

Please sign your posts with four tildes.

You cannot delete your account. Just stop using it.

You say that you own the copyright on the image. Did you draw it, or are you saying this because the other party has given you permission to use it? If the latter, the actual copyright owner would have tot release the drawing to Wikipedia, not you.. And, asd you point out, s above, this seems moot since the article has already been redirected. Meters (talk) 01:08, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

I checked one last time and saw that the page was back - I do apologise for being a wikipedia greenhorn - I'm far too old to actually understand much of the technology (yes grammaw age) or how forums work - they scare me ... and I fuddle my way through things ...

The picture - I created the picture. So I own the copyright to the picture, but I must put 'design: name deleted' as the gun design is his (and I'll do it very gladly). So that's why I'm not sure what wikipedia will do to me if I put up the picture as from me (which it is), and it has the words 'gun design copyright: name deleted' on it.

Thanks MagicRifleResearch (talk) 01:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

MagicRifleResearch, I'm not an expert at images. You will need to license the image at Commons with a free license allowing reuse even for commercial purposes. Are you sure you want to do that? More information is at c:Commons:Licensing. Both of you will need to send email to c:Commons:OTRS (which takes some time to respond), following the procedures at c:Commons:Email templates. It's complicated so you can ask for help at c:Commons:Help desk. You also need to provide more references for the article. It is not enough to write about what you know. What the books say can be referenced to the books, but interpretation has to come from a published source. There is quite a bit written about Karl May and his works in English, as well as in German. StarryGrandma (talk) 03:46, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello StarryGrandma (I copied the brackets around above name, hopefully it'll make the name blue) - ... but 'if in doubt, leave out'. I'll link to other wikipedia pages (in German) that have modern depictions of the 'magic' rifle. I'm a one time text provider and that'll be it for me. Nice to know that there are other English speaking people who know Karl May. Cheers MagicRifleResearch (talk) 05:09, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

ADDENDUM - WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT - THE PAGE OF THE HENRYSTUTZEN/HENRY CARBINE IS AGAIN GOING TO THE HENRY RIFLE. THAT'LL DO ME. I looked at History, and found this, but haven't the foggiest what it means. v 04:53, 22 May 2019‎ Seraphimblade talk contribs‎ 25 bytes -12,188‎ Reinstatement of fictional works -requires- out of universe sources, but feel free to select a different target. Do not reinstate without substantial OOU sources. undothank Tag: New redirect .... BYEMagicRifleResearch (talk) 05:13, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

BTW - http://karl-may-wiki.de/index.php/Henrystutzen

Is this any good for whatever is required? I won't risk fiddling with the text now - I'm not confident enough with wikipedia trickery (I don't know what 'out of universe' actually means) ........ https://centerofthewest.org/2018/06/29/karl-may-henry-carbine-myth/ ............. MagicRifleResearch (talk) 03:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC) (Handing it over to the universe).

This has been redirected three times now. A discussion of possible out of universe sources is at Talk:Henry carbine Meters (talk) 03:59, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Do quotes on portals require a citation?

Hello there, Teahouse. I'm by no means a new editor, as I've been active on this site for over three years now, but I recently came across a conundrum for which I found no proper forum to address it (if I'm mistaken, please redirect me): Do quotations on WP:Portals require a citation?

The Portal:Democratic Republic of the Congo has a "Selected quote" section, which currently cycles through three quotes, all of which are said to have come from people who have been long dead (one of them is a re-appropriated folk saying). Though these quotes are "attributed" to people, there is no citation for any of them to confirm this. WP:Portal#Portals and the core content policies says "Portals are subject to the Wikipedia's five pillars and must comply with Wikipedia's core content policies (neutral point of view, no original research, verifiability, etc.)." MOS:QUOTE says "The reader must be able to determine the source of any quotation, at the very least via a footnote." So per requirements of verifiability, must quotes be cited to a reliable source? (For a BLP question this seems to be an obvious yes, but that is not the case here—yet.) If so, how do we embed such citations in a portal(as formal ref tags probably won't mesh with the formatting very well)?

Please ping me in your response. Thank you for your help. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:50, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The page that generates that list predates Siegenthaler; what you're looking at is a relic of Early Wikipedia, which has survived because portals serve no useful purpose so nobody's ever noticed the issue before. (This portal averages a mighty 20 views per day.) My inclination would be to remove the "quote" section altogether since I can't imagine any reader ever finding it useful; User:BrownHairedGirl might have thoughts. ‑ Iridescent 19:56, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Indy beetle, Here is how I solved it for a quote that I thought was just terrible, but that survived an AfD. Vexations (talk) 20:08, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

(ec)Indy beetle, I agree with Iridescent: this is a relic of early Wikipedia, preserved in the neglected portal pages. Portals serve no useful purpose, and most of them have been rotting for years, which is why I and others have been busy running the worst of them through MFD for the last two-and-a-half months.

Nearly all the pre-2018 portals are built using subpages, some times many hundreds of subpages per portal, and they mostly consist of very old unsourced content-forks. Some of those I have found have been utter nonsense, such as this hijack[1] of portal on a Chinese city which went uncorrected for two years, presumably because nobody reads the portals (they have a median daily pageview rate of only 13, and in most cases the head article receives between 100 and 2000 times more views.

The quotes sections which I have seen have all been unreferenced. Any such material should simply be removed. The simplest way to do this is simply to blank the quotes page, noting something like "removed unsourced" ... but it would be best to edit the main portal page, and remove the transclusion of the quotes page. I will do that now. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)

@Iridescent:@Vexations:@BrownHairedGirl: Thank you for the advice, and it does seem indeed to be the best course of action to remove the unsourced quotes. The observation about it predating the Siegenthaler incident makes a good point. I'm personally quite apathetic to the fate of Portals on Wikipedia, and if anything I think they can be a distraction from our generation of proper article content. I was actually going to consider the Congo portal for deletion, but saw that it had those "mighty" page view stats (which quite frankly is much better than most DRC content) so I thought I might as well clean it up to a standard where it is not an outright embarrassment or—in this instance—a probable policy violation. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:39, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

@Indy beetle: Glad that helped, but what "mighty" stats? (unless your are being ironic).

In Jan–Feb 2019, the portal got 20 pageviews per day, but the head article got 6,669 per day. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: Yes, I'm absolutely using verbal irony to point out that when compared to other Congo articles, 20 views per day isn't all that bad. Jean Bolikango, an important Congolese nationalist (and a FA) gets 11 per day; Albert Kalonji, a tribal and secessionist leader of the 1960s, gets 15; Marcel Lihau, a jurist who had his hand in writing two constitutions for the country, served as the Supreme Court's first president, and co-founded an important political party (and once again a FA) gets a mere 9; Abeti Masikini, an important female singer, fetches 6; Antoine-Roger Bolamba, one of the country's first writers, a government official, and an influential journalist, also gets 6; Constitution of the Democratic Republic of the Congo garners 29; Moambe chicken, supposedly the country's oft-dubbed "national dish", gets 22. Welcome to Africa topics. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:18, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

@Indy beetle To be fair, DRC is a nation which almost entirely avoided both British colonialism and American neocolonialism and probably has one of the lowest proportions of English speakers of anywhere in the world, so I wouldn't expect most articles to generate much interest other than those on people like Christian Benteke who have become famous in English-speaking nations. For a comparably-sized but English-speaking African nation like Nigeria, the stats are much healthier: Chinua Achebe (probably Nigeria's most popular author) consistently gets around 1000 views per day, Constitution of Nigeria averages 630 views per day, popular singer Don Jazzy hovers around the 200 mark, Jollof rice around 500, and even the revolting Moin moin gets about 80-90 views per day. I imagine if you pop over to French Wikipedia the numbers will be roughly reversed. ‑ Iridescent 21:43, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

@Indy beetle: The view expressed above that Portals serve no useful purpose are those of individuals, not a collective view of the Wikipedia community. Portals can (or should) provide users with an alternative and attractive 'shop window-style' route into broad topic area. It is a sad fact that they have been rather overlooked and definitely under-promoted, and that those who would like to see them deleted because of low page views would never apply the same deletion logic to articles, many of which get fewer views per day than do the related Portals. Your desire to improve the DRC Portal is welcomed and is to be applauded. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:54, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

My Question was Archived, in 3 days, I got no notice of answers or archiving

My question "Is there an "Official" Dictionary for Wikipedia?" got archived. I've asked questions here before, was always informed there was an answer and got a message when it was archived. This time I got none of that. I've been wondering and waiting for answers and just now learned it was archived. I thought the time period was like 5 days. Did I forget to click a button, or something?Tym Whittier (talk) 03:15, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

There were a couple of replies within four hours of your question. See [2]. The archiving bot seems to have been busier than usual. Dbfirs 08:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Tym Whittier: Here is a wikilink to the historic version of this page Dbfirs refers above, together with the section location:
Special:PermaLink/898220382#Is There an "Official" Wikipedia Dictionary?
And here's the thread in archives:
Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 956#Is There an "Official" Wikipedia Dictionary?
--CiaPan (talk) 10:04, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks CiaPan. (Practicing my "ping".)Tym Whittier (talk) 17:58, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

@Tym Whittier: It worked pretty well. :) CiaPan (talk) 19:46, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

It does seem that Munninbot's notifications of archival stopped working since May 17. As far as I know, this is a bug. I will try to find time to investigate this weekend, but no promises. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 11:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for all of that. Glad to know I didn't do something wrong and get prematurely archived for that reason. So what do I do now? "Unarchive" the question? Post a duplicate (and waste the answers that were given)? I didn't get notifications for these answers either.Tym Whittier (talk) 16:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Do not unarchive the question, but you can post a new thread to ask for clarification, complements etc. if you want. It is normal that you do not get notifications for reply - we Teahouse answerers try to WP:PING new users when replying, but we do not always do it. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 19:59, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I assumed that it was automatic. Seems to me someone could make a bot that sends auto-notification just based on the 4 tilde signing. Is there a technical obstacle, a problem finding someone to do it, or what?

I also find it odd that the notifications quit working at the same time that the archiving started working faster. Are they the same 'bot?Tym Whittier (talk) 16:41, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

No. The archival process on the Teahouse and on many, many other pages is handled by Lowercase sigmabot III. After it does its thing, Muninnbot comes up, sniffing the Teahouse's page history, and tries to notify every thread initiator of where the archive is stored. I am the maintainer of the latter (Muninnbot), which is a much smaller project than Lowercase sigmabot III by far. I think I fixed the bug, which had nothing to do with the archival process. The next paragraph gives the details of the bug for the interested reader, but you can skip it safely if you do not care.

Muninnbot runs tests of its subroutines before doing the actual run, in order to ensure nothing broke, and stops if any of the tests failed (I think it would not be wise to run unsupervised a bot that writes to user talk pages without such a "dead bot's switch"). One of the subroutines is a check of whether a user is blocked (per WP:DENY, Muninnbot will not post to the talk pages of blocked users); the associated test had a hardcoded IP that was WP:INDEF-blocked, but it just got unblocked, which caused the test to break and all the notification process with it. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 19:59, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

FYI I did not get notified of this post. Was I supposed to?Tym Whittier (talk) 22:22, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

No, because I did not ping you. Maybe I should have. Here's a ping for you: Tym Whittier. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:42, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that. This is absolutely my level. I'm still learning this whole "ping" thing. Maybe someday I'll figure out how to make fancy text with colors and everything. Once I tried to do my font in "small". Failed, and then gave up.Tym Whittier (talk) 17:55, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

My article is ready for submission

Hello Teahouse residents!

Please I would like experienced wiki editors to review my work in my sandbox and make corrections were necessary, do well to inform me of your corrections in my talk page so I can take note. I would appreciate my work to be accepted.

Thank yo guys!

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 12:36, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

His sandbox: User:Ohanwe Emmanuel .I./sandbox David notMD (talk) 13:37, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

• @Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: In my opinion it's ready. - CptViraj (Talk) 13:39, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@CptViraj: Erm, no. Did you not check for copyright violations? This draft is stuffed full of copy/pasted content from non-free sources which breaches our guidelines. It is also far too detailed, and reads more like a promotional cv than an encyclopaedia article. It could do with a lead paragraph to summarise who he is and why he's notable. (See this page on notability.) The article should refer to him directly by his name, and not all that HR Eng. stuff which means nothing to me or other readers. We don't need to know if he's happily married - just that he's married. @Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: If you can cut down the draft by around half its length and rewrite key content in your own words, then your draft might well stand a chance of being accepted. Not a bad effort for a first draft. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:18, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you User:CptViraj

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 18:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Nick Moyes, I would reduce the draft and change my dictions. Pls do you think there's anything wrong with my references?

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 18:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: You asked on my talk page about which pages you copy/pasted text from. I'm surprised you can't remember, but you might find [@Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: this tool] useful. Text in pink indicates that which has been copied from other sources. You also asked (below) about sources. I would ask you to investigate the 'Cite' tool which you can find in both of our editing tools and to ensure you complete all the fields it offers you. This is the way to make really good citations - the absolute life-blood of Wikipedia, and by no means an irrelevancy. If you can avoid repeating the same citation, that would be really helpful, too. There's more information on how to use the 'ref name =' function on this page, and I've demonstrated how you can do that that with one of your sources. The real benefit for you is that you don't have to retype all the same content, but just call up a shortcut name every time you need to re-use it. Some of your source links don't help users prove that what you say is correct - e.g. the link to Otis Engineering isn't to a page which actually states he was the founder and chairman. Another suggestion is to remove some of the 'redlinks' such as 'Engineering Practice' and 'Public Utility Regulation' which I doubt will ever be created. You also have a number of links to disambiguation pages such as shell, when I think you mean the oil corporation. You can change your 'Preferences' so that these disambiguation pages how up as orange text which I find very helpful when cleaning up new pages. I hope this feedback is of some help. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:04, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I think you forgot to include a link to the tool in your post, Nick Moyes. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:36, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello guys! I have done the corrections, can you please help me review it one more time? Thanks for your time teahouse. Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 22:59, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

You don't appear to have addressed the points I highlighted, but none would cause the article to fail at Review, per se. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:59, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm really indebted to this response. Firstly, my network delayed my last message you replied and it came after you've made this contribution, I sent it earlier yesterday. I would effect that immediately. I wish all Wikipedia editors are this sincere, patient and tolerating. Thanks once more Nick Moyes.

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 13:58, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nick Moyes. Thanks once again. I have effected the corrections though I couldn't find the pink colored words. Can you help me review for the last time. Thanks for your always response.

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 14:28, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: Oops, so sorry. Here is the link to the copyvio tool. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:17, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Definition Template

Is there in definition template? Which will show definition of the word? (Not 'Need definition'). CptViraj (Talk)

There is no template to do so, but you can always link the term to the appropriate article. WelpThatWorked (talk) 15:13, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@WelpThatWorked: Gotcha! - CptViraj (Talk) 01:05, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Disappearing user subpage

Hi, I wrote a draft article on user:TheDoDahMan/draft and submitted it for review. For some reason the page is gone. Help! TheDoDahMan (talk) 16:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Resolved.TheDoDahMan (talk) 17:09, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Two name merged on Wikipedia page singer Rajeshwari Datta and singer Rajeshwari Dutta

Rajeshwari Datta is an actress https://www.imdb.com/name/nm9673055/bio?mode=desktop&ref_=m_ft_dsk

1. This Rajeshwari Datta has worked in serials Tujhse Hai Raabta for Zee tv http://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/rajeshwari-datta-opens-her-role-tujhse-hai-raabta-181202

2. Jamai raja tv series season I & II

https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/jamai-raja/cast/681007/

Rajeshwari Datta actress name is there in cast of the serial

  but photo has been used of Actress Rajeshwari Datta in wikipedia page of singer Rajeshwari Datta. Please separate both actress and singer. Actress Rajeshwari Datta and Singer Rajeshwari Datta

Actress Rajeshwari Datta photo has been used wrongly on singer Rajeshwari Datta wikipedia page link: https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&ei=z8fmXNn0Dvzcz7sPmvSTsAM&q=Rajeshwari+Datta+&oq=Rajeshwari+Datta+&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.3..35i39l3j0i22i30j0i22i10i30l2.243464.244106..245130...0.0..0.422.1347.0j2j1j1j1....1..0....1.rIF25Zaj7_0

Please separate both the person with their profession.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ Rajeshwaridattaactor (talk • contribs) 2019-05-23T17:26:03 (UTC)

Hello, Rajeshwaridattaactor. Wikipedia has only an article on the singer Rajeshwari Datta. Somebody tried, inappropriately, to hijack the article and make it about the actor, but that is not the way to do it: if Rajeshwari Datta the actor meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then we can have an article on her, which will be separate from the article on the singer. (If you are Rajeshwari Datta, as your username implies, then you should not create this article, as autobiography is strongly discouraged).

The Wikipedia article Rajeshwari Datta does not have a photograph, and never has had, as far as I can tell. Google takes its information from various sources, including Wikipedia; but when Google mistakenly merges information about different people, that is Google's problem, and Wikipedia cannot do anything about it. (Standard message follows:)

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines.. --ColinFine (talk) 18:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

hsk

Sheikh Abdul Muhammad Haseeb Shafiq Khan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haseebskhan24 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Haseebskhan24, and welcome to the Teahouse. What is your question about editing Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 18:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Haseebskhan24: The teahouse is for asking questions about Wikipedia from experienced editors, not really for experimenting. If you would like to experiment, please feel free to edit in the sandbox, this isn't the place to do so.Eclipsefc (talk) 23:59, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Trying to Add a picture to a Page

I am trying to add a picture to an athletes page. I have posted a picture that keeps getting deleted. I know the athlete and he has been sending me photos he wants published on his wiki page. he owns the copyright on the pictures and I am just posting it for them. How can I post the picture? I keep getting user accounts flagging the picture and then the picture gets deleted. I am just doing this for the athlete and would like to get it done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soccerfiend11 (talk • contribs) 18:13, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Soccerfiend11 . If you are not the copyright holder, then you cannot upload the photos. It isn't allowed. The most straightforward solution is for the copyright holder to upload the photos. That person is the only one who has the legal ability to release the rights under an acceptable Creative Commons license. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:21, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Soccerfiend11. In addition to what Cullen328 posted above, I'm just going to point out that Wikimedia Commons (or Commons for short) and Wikipedia are technically separate project. They both are part of the same Wikimedia Foundation family so to speak, but they each have their own respective policies and guidelines. Common bascially handles file uploads and is more concerned with how content uploaded to it is licensed than how it is going to be used in Wikipedia articles. Commons is also a global project which act as a file (i.e. image) repository for the various other members of the Wikimedia Foundation family; so, files uploaded to Commons need to be able to be used on any of these other Wikipedia project pages without any concern about violating someone else's copyright. For this reason, Commons is pretty strict when it comes to the types of files it will accept as explained in c:Commons:Licensing and pretty much only will accept files which either (1) been clearly released under a free license or (2) are clearly within the public domain. Since copyright law, etc. can vary from country to country (sometimes even quite a bit), Commons will often require some sort of formal verification by Wikimedia OTRS whenever there are concerns about a file's licensing. Moreover, Commons will also delete files per its precautionary principle whenever there are serious concerns about a file's licensing. So, if you're the copyright holder of the file(s) you uploaded, please take a look at c:COM:OTRS#Licensing images: when do I contact OTRS?; if, on the other hand, you're not, please look at c:COM:OTRS#If you are NOT the copyright holder. Just for general reference, most content is going to be assumed to be protected by copyright unless it can be clearly demonstrated not to be; furthermore, the copyright holder is generally considered to be the creator of the work, not the subject of the work or the possesser of the work (e.g. the photographer who takes a photo, not the subject of the photo or a person who has the photo in their possession). In most cases, if you7re not the person who actually created the work, you are not going to be considered the own the copyright over the work.

Finally, if the article you wanted to add the photo is Brendan Hines-Ike and you're a friend of his, then you're most likely going to be considered to have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest with respect to anything written about him anywhere on Wikipedia. Wikipedia doesn't expressly prohibit conflict-of-interest editing, but it does highly discourage it and expect editors with a conflict of interest to follow certain guidelines. I've added a template to your user talk page which contains links to various Wikipedia pages related to conflict of interest, but you might also want to look at Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide, Wikipedia:Ownership of content, and even perhaps Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing for additional reference. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:36, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Resolved

Questionable deletion and editing

I have been editing for couple of years and I have always problem in my special area - the tennis historical figures and stats. Bytheway, I am a tennis historian, I corrected ATP site, providing missing sheets to Tennis Hall of Fame museum, attending all kind of tennis event (ITF, ATP, WTA etc) running the most comprehensive Grand Slam database and MY EDITS WERE DELETED permanently without any notifications? This unexplainable deletion made me utmost upset and as I mentioned not only myself is affected. I demand explanation why wikipedia deleted my edits without any notifications especial in the expertise of tennis! I am working Hall of Fame journalists and I know personally every high-regarded media member of the tennis world. None of them work for wikipedia!!! You do not respect knowledge, preparedness, commitment and the time and energy which I ( and other people) invested to elevate the level of the wikipedia. Mrandrew16 (talk) 19:48, 23 May 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrandrew16 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Mrandrew16. Have you asked the editor who reverted your edits to explain why they did so? That should be your first course of action, rather than shouting at the volunteers here, who likely had nothing to do with the reverts. By the way, very few edits are ever permanently deleted - they are usually there in the page's edit history. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:47, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Cordless Larry. Sorry for this 'shouting', however I am utmost disappointed and frustrated! The editors deleted even my editing history since May 12! How it happened? I know exactly which sites I made edits (Steffi Graf, Natasha Zvereva etc.) and I am not able to find any of my edits, not even my user name in view history? Furthermore, I did another edit on May 20, and the total excel (which last line I added a stat) is disappeared...There is any logical explanation? I appreciate your time and your kindness to try to solve the problem!Mrandrew16 (talk) 19:56, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

The last edits you made from your account before today were on 12 May (see Special:Contributions/Mrandrew16). Perhaps you accidentally edited while logged out? I'd suggest checking the individual article histories to see if you can find the edits that way. If you made them while logged out, they'll be listed against your IP address rather than username. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:00, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Cordless Larry. I have already checked those individual sites and that's my problem: I did not find any of my edits on that either! And I was logged in and I always checked my completed edits on the public sites! Furthermore, that referenced excel (wins vs No.1 players) which listed all of the matches of Nadal which he won against No.1 players, is disappeared! Mysterious!Mrandrew16 (talk) 20:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Cordless Larry, Mrandrew16 Mrandrew16's contributions begin on 20 December 2014. He did indeed make a number of edits to Steffi Graf, in early March 2015. Vexations (talk) 20:12, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles, especially those on well-known living persons, change over time. It is the nature of this project that they do so. If you want to know why a change was made, you should ask on the relevant article's talk page, and maybe try to be a little calmer when doing so. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:16, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Beeblebrox I understand your standpoint of the change for well-known living persons' bio,however, please understand my frustration too when you tried to make wikipedia better, more informative and when you just realize that everything was thrown out of the window without any notification. In that event, nobody can sit and smile. Thank you!22:31, 23 May 2019 (UTC)Mrandrew16 (talk)

There were no edits between 12 Mar and today on Natasha Zvereva. There were no edits between 28 Apr and today on Steffi Graf. Explanations are lacking, but very unlikely to be problems with Wikipedia or its logs. Shenme (talk) 20:41, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Shenme I appreciate your assistance of checking the referenced sites, however I did edit on there definitely. I did it again, and we'll see how the things work out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrandrew16 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Shenme I checked again the referenced sites, and I found the edits I did, however I do not understand why these edits are displayed under IP address and not under my username. I was logged in that time. It is possible if I collect those edits in a list you would switch that IP address to my user name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrandrew16 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm afraid it's not possible to change the attribution of a past edit, Mrandrew16. If you are worried about your IP address having been revealed, it can be hidden if you want (see WP:OSPOL), but it's not possible to reassign edits to your account. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:17, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

@Mrandrew16: The login page has a box "Keep me logged in (for up to 365 days)". You don't stay logged in if you change browser, or your browser deletes cookies. Help:Logging in has some tips. The following applies to the desktop version of the site. The top of the page shows your username when you are logged in. Contributions at the top shows your edits. The "View history" tab on a page shows the edit history. If you wonder why a change is no longer in the page then post a diff to it here. That means posting the url after you click "diff" in your contributions, or "prev" in the page history. You still haven't given us enough information to identify any of the edits you complain about so we cannot examine what happened. Maybe some of them were never saved because you only clicked "Show preview", or added external links from an IP address and overlooked a captcha step after clicking "Publish changes". Maybe they were reverted because they were unsourced, or broke the formatting of the page, or also included inappropriate changes. We have to see the edits to say. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:24, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear PrimeHunter, thank you for detailed explanation, I appreciate it! The edits were applied on the site of Steffi Graf and Natasha Zvereva regarding the duration of 1988 French Open final they played. As well as I added a line in the section of Rafael Nadal's wins vs No. 1 players, however it was a quite difficult to find this section because there are two different subpages inside Rafael Nadal: 1. Rafael Nadal career statistics and 2. List of career achievements by Rafael Nadal. However at the "See also" section there was not listed the 2nd one! Now I did a change and I added this list in this section and now it is much easier to find for anybody who would check this list.Mrandrew16 (talk) 09:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

While I can't tell you why your edits were undone without further details, Mrandrew16, I note that in some edits you've made since starting this thread (here and here), you copied part of a sentence directly from the source, without putting the words in quote marks. That could be one reason why your past edits have been reverted. Please see Wikipedia:Plagiarism for advice on how to avoid plagiarism. I will fix the issue with these two edits shortly. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:59, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Cordless Larry Thank You for your instruction and I already placed the missing quotations on both sites. I did not intend having any plagiarism and I supposed it is more than enough if I indicate the references before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrandrew16 (talk • contribs) 05:09, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

I've reverted your addition of quote marks to the two articles, Mrandrew16, because I had already paraphrased the text yesterday. Please also note that it is generally considered bad form to substantially change a talk page question or comment after it has been responded to, as you did here (although I appreciate your efforts to tone down your language). Cordless Larry (talk) 05:26, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Cordless Larry, having appreciated your assistance, however I am lost a little bit and I do not understand that if I cited a text from a person (Steven Pye) like I did on the page of Steffi Graf and Natasha Zvereva, and I put as a reference, this time you mentioned that I should have put the words in quotation marks to avoid plagiarism. After I did and put the citation in a quotation mark, now you reverted and currently the citation is without quotation mark. Sorry, but I do not see any difference? Using quotation mark or not? I wanna avoid the plagiarism!I would be grateful if you explain the differences!Mrandrew16 (talk) 08:48, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@Mrandrew16: Quotation marks are only for direct quotes. Cordless Larry reworded your direct quote in [3] so quotation marks should not be used after that. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:46, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

PrimeHunter I got it! Thank you for this information, I appreciate it!Mrandrew16 (talk) 09:59, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

How can I delete a submission

How can I delete a submission for good. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma.Sydney.aus (talk • contribs)

The short answer is that you, personally, cannot delete anything. Only administrators can delete pages. In order to get a particualr page deleted you need to have a good reason why it should be deleted, and there are several processes for making your case. The most obviously unfit articles will qualify for speedy deletion, uncontroversial deletions unlikely to be objected to can be handled through proposed deletion (although if anyone at all does object they can simply decline the nomination) and for everything else you will need to use the articles for deletion process which involves a one-week discussion of the article in question. It can be a bit daunting if you have never done it before but any experienced user can help you through it and/or you can use WP:TWINKLE to facilitate any of the above processes. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:22, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Emma.Sydney.aus, if you want to delete this AfC submission, you can add {{db-u1}} to it, and an administrator should delete it shortly. Eman235/talk 21:13, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Edited draft ready for submission

I appreciate Teahouse for being responsive and friendly. I have an article ready for submission, I have effected some recommendations made hwre, please help me check the final copy before I submit for approval. Thanks. Here is my sandbox User:Ohanwe Emmanuel .I./sandbox Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 20:56, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.: It doesn't help to keep asking the same questions in different places. Please ask and reply at Wikipedia:Teahouse#My_article_is_ready_for_submission. We are all volunteers here, and it helps to be patient. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry if I duplicated my questions, I just finished effecting the corrections you made to my work and I decided to open a new thread to ask for further review. I would go back to the previous thread and continue the question. Thanks @Nick Moyes.

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 22:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Interwiki links

Hello, trying to correct some links written as [[:fr:Word]] into proper code through pages on other WP {{ill|Word|fr}}. However, when the word doesn't match the target (to make it shorter or simpler), how should it be written? Such as: {{ill|target link=Cat cabal|text written on the article=Best cabal ever|fr}}? Not sure it's clear... Regards, --Bédévore ^{[knock knock]} 22:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

• Hi Bédévore you add the word in the native language as the last parameter, so it would be for example {{ill|Hello|fr|Bonjour}} which would link to the French page Bonjour. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:22, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you Joseph2302 ! Very clear and fast answer ! -Bédévore ^{[knock knock]} 22:27, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bédévore. Just want to add that sometimes when you use a template like {{ill}} you may have to make sure the target link is not to a WP:DAB page, or doesn't not link to another Wikipedia article with the same name. In such cases, you may find using the paramteter |lt= to WP:PIPE the target link helpful. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:38, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Marchjuly however I'm sorry, I didn't understand how to use it on the code... -- Bédévore ^{[knock knock]} 11:10, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Is there some sort of tutorial video?

Is there some sort of tutorial video?— Preceding unsigned comment added by AliSalmanone (talk • contribs) 00:49, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi AliSalmanone. There is the Wikipedia:Adventure, which is one way to become more familiar with how Wikipedia works. There is also a short video in Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia, but there may be others uploaded to an external site like YouTube which explain how Wikipedia works. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:39, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Potentially flawed UI design is causing me to leave blank edit summaries on accident from time to time

I'm not sure if this belongs here or at the village pump or somewhere else, but sometimes when I edit articles, I like to preview my edits and I tend to do that before I put down the summary, but sometimes I keep finding myself clicking the publish button instead of either of the return buttons while looking at the preview. Sometimes this is fine, but in certain situations that can leave me feeling awkward. For example, my most recent blank-summary edit on a 4-year old redirect I wanted deleted (Top kek to LOL) was supposed to quote the RfD page where it says redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3 and that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes, but then I accidentally clicked on the Publish button because it stands out against both of the Return buttons (and the UI has both buttons pushed far away into other corners when I look at the preview), so I quickly undid it out of cautious courtesy. -- MrHumanPersonGuy (talk) 01:49, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello MrHumanPersonGuy - I used to have the same problem until some kind person pointed out that there is an option I could activate which prevents me from saving my changes until I fill in the edit summary. You can find it under Preferences > Editing > Editor > Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary.--Gronk Oz (talk) 03:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. -- MrHumanPersonGuy (talk) 09:54, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Talk Achieve

How can i enable automatic achieve system on my talk page? - CptViraj (Talk) 02:24, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi CptViraj. Do you mean "archive" instead of "achieve"? You can find out a bit about how to archive a talk page at Help:Archiving a talk page. There are different ways to archive pages and some can be quick tricky to set up; so, sometimes, a good thing to do is to look around and how some others have set up archiving for their user talk pages for ideas. When you find something you particularly like, you can post a message of that user's talk page and ask them how they set it up. They might even be willing to set it up for you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:13, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

What? after an article is reviewed

I have received msg that Your draft is reviewed. now what is the next step for me to follow. How does my draft gets published and when the word draft is removed from the name of my article? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aadilghb (talk • contribs) 05:49, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Which draft are you referring to, Aadilghb? There is no such notification on your user talk page, and the only draft that your account has created, Draft:Muhammad Aadil, has not been reviewed - in fact, you have not submitted it for review. But maybe this refers to some other draft? --bonadea contributions talk 10:54, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

yes I am talking about Draft: Muhammad Aadil. How can I submit an article to be reviewed

Aadilghb: if Draft:Muhammad Aadil is submitted for review in its current state, it will certainly be rejected, as it cites no sources. Please read Help:Referencing for beginners. Maproom (talk) 09:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Garbled infobox

I noticed that the infobox for the Indian National Congress, which is the largest opposition party in India right now was left garbled by whoever updated it last, but I can’t find any problem in it when seeing the source. Could someone explain what is the problem? --RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 10:01, 24 May 2019 (UTC) Template:Infobox_Indian_political_party

Welcome to the Teahouse, RedBulbBlueBlood9911. After struggling for ages with a copy of the Infobox markup in my sandbox, I finally spotted that another editor Lesenwriter, had made a good faith edit by adding updated information and inserting a composition bar template, plus a supporting citation. Only by removing this, and replacing it just with a numeral, did the Infobox then display correctly. By reading the documentation at Template:Infobox Indian political party, it eventually became clear this this field can only accept a number, and nothing else. Oddly, the template must be pulling the total number of available seats (and a citation) from somewhere else, but sadly I have no time left today to investigate further. I have made an edit to insert Lesenwriter's updated figure, but declared in my detailed edit summary my uncertainty over my need to remove the citation they not unreasonably thought was OK to add there. I think the place to discuss future problems over the infobox displaying incorrectly and any citations that may be needed to support changes should probably be made on the article's talk page in the first instance and then at Template talk:Infobox political party as per the advice in the template's documentation - especially if this helps future editors from making the same mistake of changing the template's content with the best of intentions, but in a way that the template clearly can't handle. If my edit has made things worse in other ways, feel free to revert it. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:22, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the mitigation Nick Moyes. It is made so complicated , you have entered the correct number 52 , however the current member is 542 with the newly elected parliament whereas in the page it is state as 518 which is outdated and i have no idea how to fix it in the template. Please help to correct it Nick Moyes , RedBulbBlueBlood9911. Thanks again !!.. -Lesenwriter (talk) 14:15, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lesenwriter: Sorry - I am unable to assist as, right now, I am setting off to go away for a few days. If you follow the links given above, I think you would be best to discuss it there. Somehow the 545 (or 542?) seats appears to be pre-set somewhere else within the template, and I simply don't have time now to investigate further. I#m very sorry about that. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:22, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Video Game Related Article

Hello Wikipedians, I have started an article for Call of Duty: Mobile which is in beta now but officially released, here is the article Call of Duty: Mobile it's a stub now, Please give your thoughts or have a look at the article, and also if you have more information on the subject please contribute I love that game <3 --Siddharth 🤙🏻 Talk To Me!! 10:39, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, A page in the English Wikipedia is linking to the wrong page in another Language

Hello, I found that an article in English which under "Languages" links to the wrong page in Portuguese. Yet, I don't see anyhere where I can change the article it links to. The pages in question are: Historical_criticism which links to Alta_Crítica instead of Método_histórico (which is undoubtedly the correct page). Do you know how this can be changed? Does an admin have to do it? As you can see I need some help here! Thank you in advance! User:Apeximius (talk) 15:38, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Apeximus. This is now done through Wikidata. At the bottom of the list of languages you should see "Edit links". If you pick that, it will take you to the Wikidata page, including the list of links to articles in particular Wikipedia. There is a "move" button beside each one. --ColinFine (talk) 16:17, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, Apeximius, I mis-pinged. --ColinFine (talk) 16:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, ColinFine. I didn't see the link at the bottom as it has low contrast. I was also wrong. The page was properly linked - it just so happens there was a more proper page for the link. Apeximius (talk) 16:39, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) pt:Método histórico is already linked to Historical method which seems the best match. Articles linked via Wikidata must have the same link both ways and can only be linked with one article in a language so I don't think anything should be changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:41, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

You're right, PrimeHunter. Once I saw the page in the current link I realised that it was a better match. Thanks for the heads up! --Apeximius (talk) 19:03, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Hello,

I recently added stuff to my page to make it look a bit better.

Is there any chance that someone could help by adding my contributions to the "contributions" tab I have added, as I don't know how to do it.

Also, could someone fix/edit the barnstar tab aswell please.

Thank you

L1amw90 (talk) 16:24, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello L1amw90 and welcome to the Teahouse. I've added {{special:contributions/L1amw90}} to the contributions section, generating your contributions. This is updated automatically; you can also see your contributions at special:contributions/L1amw90. As for the barnstars page, follow the link to User:L1amw90/Barnstars and press "Publish page" to create the page. Cheers, Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 16:40, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Charles Shyer (infobox problems)

Hi, I am Charles Shyer's assistant and I am trying to create an infobox on his page because for some reason it was changed. When I do it, I input the code just like the template says, but the infobox with his picture doesn't show up on his page, only the code does. Please help, I'm not great with HTML. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tlee3835 (talk • contribs) 16:56, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Tlee3835, what broke the infobox was the edit here that removed the two braces following Shyer's birth date. As you have a conflict of interest with regard to the article's subject, it would be best for you to detail on the article's talk page any changes you think need to be made. Put the template {{request edit}} at the top of the post in which you request the changes. Deor (talk) 17:51, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

@Tlee3835: Also if your position as Charles Shyer's assistant is a paid one, please review Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure policy as it would apply to you. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 06:50, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Question

Hi, if you have read my talk page and the description, you may have seen that I am an 8th grade student in Connecticut. You might have also seen that I am fascinated by the study of weather. This leads to my question, how do you add tornadoes on a wikipedia, say the 2011 super outbreak. In this section there is a list of confirmed tornadoes, how do you add a tornado to the list using all of the same colors, for example an EF5 tornado is red and an EF1 tornado is yellow. Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julian1088 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Julian1088, you use Template:Storm colour. Any time you see something in an article and you wonder how they did it, click Edit source and view the wikicode for that item. I pick up most tips and tricks that way. Schazjmd (talk) 18:07, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Schazjmd Thank you :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julian1088 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Most effective forum to discuss problematic BLP?

Reading the text of article Shafiat Sobhan Sanvir, most people would conclude that he is not notable. If that were all there were to it, I would take it to AfD.

But a search of English-language Bangladeshi newspapers returns ~75 hits from 2007-1016. They stem from his being the primary accused in a murder, and the subsequent US$2.5m alleged bribery of a government minister so as to evade justice. Sanvir was acquitted of the murder in 2011,[4] although as of 2016 the High Court was considering cancelling the judgement.[5] The status of the bribery investigation is unclear.

The questions of whether Sanvir is notable, and, if so, how the allegations should be covered in the article, runs into a thicket of policies and guidelines that are not my usual haunt: WP:PUBLICFIGURE, WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE, WP:BLPCRIME, WP:BLP1E, and WP:BIO1E, at a minimum.

It is unclear to me where the best place to discuss the disposition of the article would be. The only major contributor is dormant, the talk page is likely unwatched, this isn't really a content dispute between editors, and AfD doesn't feel right because I don't necessarily advocate deletion (possible alternatives include redirection to a new article about the murder, expansion to include allegations, status quo unless and until there is a conviction, and probably more I haven't thought of). Where would be the most appropriate place to raise this to get input from experts on these BLP issues? --Worldbruce (talk) 19:07, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Worldbruce: if the only thing he's notable for is the accusation of murder, then the accusation should be discussed in the article. As it stands, it cites no sources (though it does list some), and provides no evidence of notability. I have moved it to Draft:Shafiat Sobhan Sanvir, where it should remain until it's converted to an acceptable article or deleted. Maproom (talk) 21:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Question on notability.

I am trying to create a page for the Media Production Company Epic Age Media. I am not sure if my time building the page will be taken down because of notability. The company has been established since 2008 and has multiple different facets from Video, Fiction, Board Games, card games and role playing games. The sources available range from the company website to Facebook, LinkedIn, Wordpress, reviews, convention panels, podcasts and interviews. It is a sole proprietorship that does its own distribution and is primarily print on demand. The products and projects have won awards and have been well-received by hundreds in the local Houston area, across the nation and the world. Are these sources sufficient for a company that has been in existence for over a decade and has over 2 dozen products? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epicagemedia (talk • contribs) 19:58, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

I see that Epicagemedia has been blocked from for promotion, and their contribution no longer exists. Maproom (talk) 21:38, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Noob questions about getting an image for Wikimedia Commons

Hey there! I'm writing an article about one of my favorite authors who I noticed doesn't have a wikipdia page (yet :)). Anyways, I've submitted my draft for review, and feel that an image would make the info box on the page look great. Can anyone give me some tips for getting an image for that? Should I reach out to the author to see if he has an image I can upload to Wikimedia Commons, or would it be best if I asked him or whoever has the rights to the image to upload it, and then I would just use the link. If this is explained in an article, I apologize. Thanks for your help. :) Sadies Plants (talk) 20:04, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Should ask whoever has the rights to the image. This person can e-mail it to the address specified in Commons:Commons:OTRS. Ruslik_Zero 20:50, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Ruslik_Zero, much appreciated! Take care. Sadies Plants (talk) 21:46, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Presidents of the United States

I am writing a book on the veterans of the Civil War who became president and would like to used a lot of the information on Wikipedia on each of the seven presidents plus Cleveland. Fillmore and Tyler.

How do I obtain permission from Wikipedia.

Respectfully, George

Hi, George. You don't need any additional permission, you may reuse the text if you provide attribution. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License. Images may have different licenses, you will need to check the license for any image you are planning to use. RudolfRed (talk) 21:21, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Article about Uche Odoputa

guys i recently created a new article but is still in review and its said: 1. This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification. 2. The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies. what am i missing pls? NB: the Article is about Uche Odoputa, a nollywood actor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uche_Odoputa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonpotter01 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Jonpotter01, and welcome to the Teahouse! Your article currently has two sources. One is a blog [6] (which we generally don't use, especially not in articles about living people), the other doesn't seem that good either [7] (though for all I know, it may be the Washington Post of entertainment news in Nigeria). Basically these sources would be ok if they were published in, say, The Guardian (Nigeria), or something not too far from it.

So in short, you need more and better sources. If they don't exist, WP won't have an article on him until they do. Take the time to read Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and WP:PERSON. WP:NOENG may also be of interest. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:17, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Assistance on a Commons question in a GAN

I'd appreciate if someone with experience dealing with PD issues on Commons could take a look at the issue at: Talk:BMT Broadway Line/GA1. I was under the impression that we needed specific evidence of the date of publication, but Kew Gardens has provided reasonable circumstantial evidence. However, I don't know the PD rules well enough to feel comfortable signing off on this. StudiesWorld (talk) 22:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

How do I add my website link to Wikipedia's Page about Netley Abbey?

Hello, I have a website called "Netley Abbey Matters" - all about the history of our Village, its once Military Hospital and its Military Cemetery. I would like to add my website to the existing page about Netley Abbey. Its URL is https://www.netleyabbeymatters.co.uk It's all my own work and I cite sources etc whenever possible. It will contain (by tomorrow) a link into a Hospital Summary Listing of the folk, so far identified, who walked the corridors of the Royal Victoria Military Hospital, Netley during its history between 1863 and 1978. There are no official records and we are researching and receiving new names and bios all the time. We were interviewed about our Project on BBC South Today last Thursday evening, 23 May 2019. I have an account and I'm a subscriber. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brenda0101 (talk • contribs)

@Brenda0101: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Policy in this area is governed by the External Links policy. Wikipedia articles are not meant to have collections of links on the subject; it is also a conflict of interest for you to add a link to your own website, and it could be seen as promotional. I would suggest that if you truly feel it merits inclusion in the article, that you start a discussion on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 11:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Notability of topic new Wikipedia page

Hello, for a class project we are creating a new Wikipedia page. We would like to contribute to the page on Water Supply in Lebanon by writing about the Bisri dam. We would just like to check whether this would be considered a notable topic? Any ideas? Thank you in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuliaSophie96 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for your interest in helping! From a quick search, the Bisri Dam seems notable enough to have an article in its own right. It would be great if you made an article about it. You might want to start at Wikipedia:Your first article for information about the process. If you need any help, you can ask a question here or reach out to me at my talk page. StudiesWorld (talk) 16:13, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Wanting to donate BAT because I use the Brave browser

Since I started using the Brave browser I've been earning BAT (Basic Attention Tokens). These are meant to be donated to content creators and publishers to support their work. I would love to donate my BAT to the Wikimedia Project but it isn't registered with the donation program. Is there a plan to include BAT donations as a means of supporting Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.171.14.130 (talk) 17:49, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

HellO, IP user. I can't find any evidence that this has been discussed, though we have an article on Brave (web browser), which contains a section on Basic Attention Tokens. The best place to discuss the possibility would be WP:VPP, I think. --ColinFine (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Anyone interested in mentoring me?

Reviewing other Romance author pages, I've tried to follow the same format/writing style. I'd like to find a mentor to help guide me in the correct way of writing articles in Wikipedia. --azure 19:46, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Help:Maintenance template removal

How can I find out why this is on a page I help edit?

Page is "Bohemians 1905" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemians_1905

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colthegooner (talk • contribs) 20:28, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

New Stub page

Hello, I've just visited the new page The Voice (U.S. season 17) only to find it being short, with a messed-up infobox, and with improper grammar usage. I looked at the edit history afterwards and it turns out IP users have attempted to edit the page, but instead caused the grammar and formatting errors. Fortunately, I've attempted to fix the errors. Unfortunately, I'm unable to tell if the IP users are here to vandalize or if they're just confused - can someone please advise me on what to do in this situation? Thissecretperson (talk) 21:32, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@Thissecretperson: Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. I just looked into the page history and it seems that most of the edits in question are tests or by users writing broken English - they don't seem to be vandalism or made in bad faith. However, there are several I'm a little less sure about (specifically those made by 5.65 and 2a02:c7f), but even those look more like confused tests than malice. In general, when you come across edits that break formatting or appear to be gibberish, the first thing to do is restore the last clean version (which you did), and always assume good faith. This means that unless there are obvious signs of vandalism (see WP:VANDTYPES for examples of vandalism and WP:NOTVAND for examples of non-vandalism), remember that most Wikipedia editors intend to make constructive contributions and even the best editors were perhaps confused newbies at some point. That said, after reverting an edit looks like a test or vandalism, leave a warning message on their talk page (WP:Twinkle can do this for you), and perhaps monitor for future changes, as many vandals are persistent while innocent test edits will most likely not be repeated. Happy editing! ComplexRational (talk) 01:39, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

@ComplexRational: Awesome, I'll keep that in mind! Thissecretperson (talk) 02:21, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Should editors change information as well as add it on a Wikipedia page?

I'm new to Wikipedia, and I've noticed some misquotations, slightly incorrect information, typos, grammatical errors, etc. here and there. Should I change errors like these when I come across them, or should I just focus on making sure my own content is correct? Thank you!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎DTHanna3602 (talk • contribs)

@DTHanna3602: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Thanks for wanting to improve Wikipedia. We would welcome any help you are willing to provide; you are welcome to do whatever you feel comfortable and/or willing to do. If you would prefer to focus on your own edits, that is fine. 331dot (talk) 21:59, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@DTHanna3602: Hi, just to state in the clearest terms yes, you are absolutely welcome and encouraged to fix other people's mistakes in articles. I think it's better to think of articles as collectively owned by the community, once you submit your changes you're allowing anyone to fix them. --Habst (talk) 22:12, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, DTHanna3602. As the others have said, you are welcome to improve articles. Just be aware that others might not agree with your changes, and may revert them - perhaps even things that you regard as obvious or incontrovertible. If that happens, please don't get upset, and don't assume that you must be right and them wrong (or vice versa!). Politely open a discussion with them on the article's talk page, or their user talk page, and try to reach consensus with them (and anybody else who joins in) about how the article should read. See WP:BRD for more on how this works. --ColinFine (talk) 22:26, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

DTHanna3602: you might also be interested in WP:GCE. --ColinFine (talk) 22:27, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi DTHanna3602. What the others above are posting about is summed up in Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required, so yes be Wikipedia:Be bold. However, if you do make any changes, try and leave an Wikipedia:Edit summary explaining why so that others can better understand why an edit was made. A simple correction like a typo can probably be explained by an edit summary simply saying "typo" (though be aware of Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English and Wikipedia:Manual of style#Retaining the existing variety), but anything where you "correct" incorrect information (particularly content supported by a citation) probably requires a more thorough edit summary and even a link to a relevant Wikipedia policy or guideline on which your edit is based upon. Try and not assume that others editors will automatically see the information as being "incorrect". Moreover, if anyone undoes a change you make, then try to follow Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle and find out why; don't just automatically assume they are wrong. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:28, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@DTHanna3602: Wow, a simple question, yet so many replies! All that information is good, and I would just like to add my two cents quickly - if you are changing factual claims, please be careful to check what the sources actually say. Don't just rely on your own knowledge of the subject. Wikipedia articles should be driven by what is published in the best available sources, not by individual editors' knowledge. Indeed, sometimes one of the most valuable improvements to an article is to add a good, reliable source.--Gronk Oz (talk) 02:34, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Heraldry - Coats of Arms

What program do people use to create coats of arms for Wikipedia? Thanks, Don — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgtblackpepper (talk • contribs) 23:10, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Drafts deletion

Some random criticism pushed for deletion of my wikipedia profile which is not fair because people like jeff bezos sebastian kulczyk they have their own profiles moreover beyond. Pl superserver is worth 20 milion pound where i have only 2 pc tommorrow i plan spread my possesions and computers contiune winning attidute

Draft:Michael Bezos is up for speedy deletion because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia based on what people write about a topic, not what you write about yourself. Not social media. David notMD (talk) 01:13, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

How long

I just wanted to know how long should I write an article??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thaden1837 (talk • contribs) 01:20, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Undo edits

I didnt read the part about my IP address being shown on edits before doign one.. Is there any way to undo this?? I undid the edit and everything but its sitll showing. Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akademagikern (talk • contribs) 01:32, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Akademagikern, welcome to the Teahouse. IP edits cannot be reassigned to your account but the IP address can be hidden on request for privacy reasons. See Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:56, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

I did article and there is not result

i made article about motivation and sleepi ng less and there is no effecct — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelbezos (talk • contribs) 02:46, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Infobox Map

I notice some pages automatically generate a map on infoboxes like this. I wonder how I can do this on pages like this one. When checking the source, there seems to be no other codes/templates added except for the coordinates, which I already did. Anything else I can do to reflect a map on pages?Verbosmithie (talk) 05:47, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

What is the proper procedure when the information about two different people, with the same name, are merged into an article about one person?

When I was reading about the mayoral elections for Los Angeles in the years 1981, 1985, and 1989, I noted that one of the listed candidates was Eileen Anderson. The name links to a Eileen Anderson who was mayor of Honolulu and held many offices in Hawaii. This Eileen Anderson is still alive. The Eileen Anderson who ran for mayor of LA died at the age of 65 in 1993, <https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-09-14-me-35148-story.html>. I don't know if there is enough info to create an article about this other Eileen Anderson; is it better to put a footnote in the LA mayor articles that the Eileen Anderson who ran for mayor of LA is different than the Hawaiian Eileen Anderson? Samsonthesailorman (talk) 05:53, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

I'd suggest removing the link, with an edit summary explaining that it's a different person - perhaps add an explanatory note, with the ref, on the talk page. If you find enough to create an article on the other Eileen Anderson, you can use a {{Distinguish|example}} tag at the top of the page to add a 'not to be confused with...' note at the top of the article. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 08:40, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Samsonthesailorman, welcome to the Teahouse. Thanks for spotting this. The perennial Los Angeles candidate has no article and appears non-notable. Her best result was 0.85%. I have removed her link from the elections of 1969, 1973, 1981, 1985, 1989. I added a source comment to prevent future wrong links.[8] PrimeHunter (talk) 09:17, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Charles Curtis

being half-English, a quarter Scottish and half-Welsh. impossible— Preceding unsigned comment added by REBOOTED12 (talk • contribs) 10:06, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

I have removed that information from Charles Curtis as it is impossibl for his father to be 125% anything. ~ GB fan 10:17, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

created Article was declined for the below reson

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. The page I am currently editing is Tolu' A. Akinyemi.

I will be looking forward to your response. Many Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Joyinbabe (talk • contribs) 10:11, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

What the reviewer meant is that you weren't correctly using inline citations. To learn how to do so, you might want to read: Wikipedia:Inline citation. However, the article you are trying to write already exists at Tolu Akinyemi. If you have information you want to add, you can do so directly there. StudiesWorld (talk) 10:16, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Help with adding death date

Hello,

Can someone please help me fix the death date up on my pages? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Burns Jean Burns passed away yesterday 25/05/2019 in Sydney Australia. Thanks in advance.

{{Done]] a source would be good though. Theroadislong (talk) 10:46, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Help with article

Hello, I have started an article about director Draft:Benedikt Erlingsson. Can you give me tips on how to proceed with publishing the article. I want to add more short bios of Scandinavian and Nordic filmmakers and their works. Is that something that would be of value for English Wikipedia?

Getting my first page approved

I have created and edited a page in my sandbox at User:Davidmichaelrich/sandbox. I wish to get it approved and published ASAP as it is about a recently deceased, highly published photojournalist with many verifiable credentials. What is the best way of getting this reviewed and published?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidmichaelrich (talk • contribs)

@Davidmichaelrich: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I have added the appropriate template to allow you to submit the draft for review. Unfortunately, the chance that it will be reviewed quickly is small, as drafts are reviewed by volunteers in no particular order; it could take ten minutes, or three months. There are thousands of drafts awaiting review, so you will need to be patient. 331dot (talk) 15:52, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Notability of a Topic

Hello, as part of a class project on the Civil Rights Movement I'm looking to create an article on the 1963 Freedom Vote. I just wanted confirmation that this was significant enough to warrant its own article or if I should update the section under Freedom Summer. Thank You https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Summer#1963_Freedom_Vote