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Hi, I fixed a dead link:


after putting in the correct url, should I remove the dead link part: [permanent dead link]

Or should I leave that for the moderator to check the work and they'll remove that part?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helpful Hippopotamus (talk • contribs) 14:10, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Helpful Hippopotamus, welcome to the Teahouse! There are no moderators specifically checking everyone else's work. Editors are encouraged to be BOLD here. You do what you think will improve the encyclopedia. If someone thinks it makes it worse instead, they'll undo your work and then you talk it out with them and settle on an improvement that the whole community can get on board with. Having said that, rest assured, one of your fellow editors has the page on their watchlist, more likely than not, and they are going to check what you did.
Back to the matter at hand, make sure you've replaced that link with a link that's both live and verifies the exact same things that the previous link was cited for, then you must remove that warning as well, since that was exactly why it was placed there-- so someone sees it and fixes it. Once you've fixed it, it would be saying there's a problem where there isn't. What good is that going to do anybody ? Important: When you are saving an edit, you get a window that asks what you've done. Please be sure to fill in an accurate summary of exactly what changes you've made in that edit, so the other editors and even yourself coming back later have an accurate picture of what improvements were made in each edit. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 16:37, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for that explanation :)! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helpful Hippopotamus (talk • contribs) 22:57, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Helpful Hippopotamus: And please remember to sign your posts and comments here and on Talk pages. All it takes is four tildes: ~~~~. The automatic repair gets tedious to keep seeing, "Preceding unsigned comment added by...". Thanks in advance. --Thnidu (talk) 13:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Thnidu: Yes, of course. Helpful Hippopotamus (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Links for these two pages...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_F._Ware_Sr. and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_F._Ware_Jr.

...are not working when used in a Gmail. The link is made with a Command C, copies well including the period at the end, but when a receiver clicks on the link, it doesn't work because the period at the end is not being included in the link.

Does anyone know how to make this work?

Hathalm (talk) 14:56, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Try adding a slash(/) at the end; like so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_F._Ware_Jr./ The hash sign (#) might work too, instead of slash. If it's practical, you can link to the first section of the page instead like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_F._Ware_Sr.#Early_and_family_life/ If that doesn't work, try posting the question atWP:RD/C. That's where technical questions are answered. In here at the Teahouse, editors share their experiences in editing Wikipedia. There is no guarantee someone who's adept at technical things will pass by. Good luck! Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 15:17, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Hathalm, welcome to the Teahouse. You can also percent-encode the period as %2E. I guess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_F._Ware_Sr%2E works in Gmail. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:18, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have made an edit [1] to Template:No article text which looks for a page name with an added period. It means that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_F._Ware_Sr now displays "Did you mean: Joseph F. Ware Sr.?" PrimeHunter (talk) 20:42, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all. :) You solved it. :) 184.88.249.16 (talk) 15:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Getting Into Wikipedia

Hi! I'm, pretty new to Wikipedia and was wondering if there was anyone I could talk to to get a better understanding of how everything works. I'm considering starting a research-based club at my school and was wondering if Wikipedia would be a good place to post our findings. How do you become better at editing pages? Do you do research with the sole intention of adding to a page, or do you only edit pages where you have background information? (sorry I haven't made my profile page yet) Owenwitt (talk) 16:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)Owenwitt[reply]

Keep in mind, no original research. All editing based on reliable sources as citations. Advice is to start by editing existing articles before ever trying to create an article. Helpful links posted on your Talk page. David notMD (talk) 22:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My edits - Are they trolling?

I was reading User:Jimbo Wales and saw a word in a sentence that added nothing it. I removed it with an edit summary of better. User:Serial Number 54129 reverted the edit with no explanation as to what was wrong with the edit. I restored my edit and used a better edit summary, "unexplained revert, no need for either of these words, they add nothing to the sentence" Serial Number 54129 again reverted the edit without explaining why. I went to User talk:Serial Number 54129#User:Jimbo Wales and asked for an explanation why they reverted the edits. The response was that user pages shouldn't be refactored. I discussed that doesn't apply to that page as Jimbo has specifically said that he wants people to edit his page. Their response is that you can edit but the edit might not stand. I responded that I accept that but not that no valid reason is given to revert the edit. The response is a huge picture of books. With that being their only response I removed the word again. This time the revert had a reason, "rm trolling". As this was their 3rd revert in 3 hours, I left an edit warring template on their talk page and explained I was not trolling but making an edit I thought was an improvement and no one had countered. Those two edits were reverted by User:Bonadea with an edit summary of "Well, this is certainly trolling". I left a message for Bonadea asking how that is trolling (they have yet to edit since they reverted the edits). Then over an hour after Serial Number 54129 made their last revert, they left a warning on my talk page calling my edits; "test edits". I would like someone else's opinion. Are my edits trolling? And if you feel they are trolling, please explain how they are trolling. 155.178.180.12 (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you make one edit, and it's reverted, that's not trolling. If you make it three times, and it's reverted each time, then you aren't listening. As Administrator Iridescent advised you, in the case of this particular paragraph the wording was carefully chosen by him to address particular issues (that sources differ regarding his name and date of birth, which causes obvious issues when it comes to being the figurehead of a project based on only reflecting sources), and probably shouldn't be changed without good reason ([2]). Not me, not Larry Sanger, and not you. Incidentally, Bonadea was referring exclusively to your edits on my talk, which by then was patent trolling. ——SerialNumber54129 17:27, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Like I said, I want someone else's opinion. 155.178.180.12 (talk) 17:40, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
When you make stylistic changes to the prose on a user page, you have not improved it. By insisting on repeating that change, you become a pest. Please do not persist.--Quisqualis (talk) 17:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Serial Number 54129, what would you have done if I had logged into my account and made the same edit. ~ GB fan 18:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Filed against you at WP:ANI, GB fan, probably. After all, logging out and making disruptive edits is not exactly approved of. I'm far more lenient with transients. How goes the retirement? ——SerialNumber54129 18:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Serial Number 54129, What I am asking is if I had made the exact same edit from my logged in account as I made from the IP, what would you have done. Would you have reverted the edit with no edit summary? I have not made any disruptive edits, I am not avoiding scrutiny. I made an edit that improved the sentence and you disruptively reverted without explaining why. ~ GB fan 18:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You keep telling yourself that. You really think you know better than Iridescent? One does not "disruptively" revert an unnecessary edit to another user's talk page. ——SerialNumber54129 18:26, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say that the revert was disruptive. I am saying reverting without an adequate explanation why you are reverting is disruptive. ~ GB fan 18:31, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Would you have reverted the exact same edit made by this account without explaining why you were making the revert? ~ GB fan 18:33, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So, to clarify, you thought it would be a good idea to log out and then edit the most high-profile user page on the project? Incredible. ——SerialNumber54129 18:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I logged out over a month ago except for a single edit. I was reading and noticed the extra word and removed it. I did not log out to edit the page. You still haven't said if you would have reverted without explanation if my account had made the edit. To me that indicates you wouldn't. ~ GB fan 18:39, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IP user, as per our article on the subject, Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an ad hominem attack, suggesting a negative motivation... If you would like to further explore the topic, you can raise the question at the reference desk. The Teahouse can only tell you what you can do with the issue you have encountered. When someone reverts you for the first time without a summary, you are within your rights to revert it back and ask for an explanation in the summary. But, if it's reverted again, you have found yourself in a content dispute and are advised to follow dispute resolution procedures, even if the other user doesn't give a reason for the revert. At the very least, this gives you a highground if you end up having to seek third party intervention. You should not violate the WP:3RR rules, and can report the other user to WP:AN3 if they do. Keep in mind though that, in a highly vandalised page like User:Jimbo Wales, experienced editors of good repute might have a valid case for violating 3RR, as vandalism is an exception to that rule. The WP:TALK could be invoked and work in their favor as well, despite the fact that the user specifically asked you to edit (Note that the user has also said that vandalisms will be reverted promptly by watchful others.). Now, with regard to the content dispute, per WP:BRD, you should take the matter to the talk page of the relevant page, which is user talk:Jimbo Wales. Taking it to the editor's talk page had better be done only if the editor doesn't respond to a call for discussion on the relevant talk page. Note that a user talk page could be watched by many of their friends, and you might find yourself a minority pretty quickly. Alternatively, they might have pissed off a lot of disruptive editors in the past, and the opposite might happen. As such, that is not a neutral ground for seeking consensus over a dispute. When and if you can't resolve the dispute between yourselves, you can ask for a third opinion, and if that doesn't work, you can start a formal Request for comment. Refer back to WP:DR for full details and procedures. If the other editor is uncivil or displays disruptive behaviour during your attempt at dispute resolution and consensus building, you can seek administrator support at WP:ANI. I would add that WP:POINT and WP:IAR also exist and should be kept in mind when you enter a formal process in Wikipedia. Good luck! Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 19:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:GB fan, if you are indeed the one who was asking the question as an IP, I would remind you that the Teahouse is a place for novice editors to seek guidance, and definitely not one to make a wikipolitical WP:POINT. I advise you to seek resolution through the channels I advised of above, which you might already know of as well. Good luck! Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 19:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Usedtobecool: Whilst the Teahouse has been specifically designed to make it easy for new users to ask questions, it is not solely a place for novice editors to ask questions. In fact, anyone can ask a question. Also, this (to me) seems WP:NOTPOINTy (making a point is different that disrupting to show a point). --MrClog (talk) 22:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree you have a point, but I also stand by my original remarks, LOL! Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 22:31, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would just like to weigh in here for a moment and make some commentary on the actual stylistic consequence of the removal of the word that is at the heart of this matter. The editor changed the sentence People sometimes assume that "Jimmy" is just a nickname for "James" to People sometimes assume that "Jimmy" is a nickname for "James", and I would register my disagreement with the suggestion that the word "just" there is a word that, to paraphrase the poster, adds nothing. I would actually suggest that it in fact adds nuance. Compare for example the circumstance where you say that somebody "is a lyricist"; if you were to append that sentence to say that the same somebody "is just a lyricist" you have immediately signaled your view that a lyricist is a lesser thing than some other quality of thing. In exactly that way this sentence signals that a nickname is actually understood to be considered to be inferior in some sense or to some degree to the name that it is derived from, and that this person in fact does not consider their name to bear such a badge of inferiority to the name from which people might incorrectly assume that it was derived. StewBrewer (talk) 16:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@StewBrewer: If "somebody 'is just a lyricist'" that would mean that he only write the words as against a lyricist/composer or singer/songwriter, I don't see it as demeaning lyricists. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:53, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This may indeed be true, but even if it is not taken as demeaning, it is still setting it apart from the other thing. I would continue to maintain that the sentence has a different meaning with it from without it. StewBrewer (talk) 17:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How can i make my page visible /

How can i make my page visible on search engines and create exact page as the link below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinwunmi_Ambode

Thank You

Destiny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Destiny Chiamaka Emmanuel (talk • contribs) 17:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Destiny. The user page autobiography you have created will not ever be visible on search engines because it is not visible to them. Instead, you must create an article on Wikipedia, in a similar format to the article on Akinwunmi Ambode. Please read the following articles and note carefully their major points:

Also note the helpful articles listed on your Talk page Best of luck to you.--Quisqualis (talk) 17:40, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that what you did is use your User page to create article-like content. This is not what the User page is for, and has been deleted. You can attempt to create an article in your Sandbox, or as a draft. Neither of these will appear in search engines. Only if submitted and then approved by reviewer would an article move to main space, and be searchable. Quisqualis gave you informative pages to look at, among them that Wikipedia strongly advises against attempting an autobiography. David notMD (talk) 19:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is that intended by MediaWiki

Is this an intended thing by the software. I mean, that you create a div that is above all content of the page and blocking clicks as well as scrolling? 85.199.71.123 (talk) 17:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with MediaWiki. It is normal behavior of the your browser: fixed positioned div occupies the whole viewport. Ruslik_Zero 19:04, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think the question is: "why does MediaWiki allow malicious divs like this?" (For what it's worth, in my browser I can still click on "edit" and "history"—so it's not difficult to revert it.) Eman235/talk 19:18, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Software intentions are better explored at WP:RD/C, although I am curious why it is what it is. Despite what it's doing, the page is seems to be working just fine, as it pertains to fulfilling its prime directive, unless it behaves differently with IPs. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 19:27, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kundan Srivastava Human Rights activist

Hi Team,

I came to know that some people tried to submit an article about Kundan Srivastava and the article was rejected 3-4 times a few years before because of lack of resources.

Now he has handsome of sources. Can we have a Wikipedia profile of Kundan Srivastava? Can you verify his reliable sources are mentioned below. I’ll be highly grateful to you.

If you will allow then will submit the article about Kundan. He’s a noted Indian human rights activist. Below is the google knowledge panel source.

Google: https://g.co/kgs/xPUYac

Bio:

https://www.celebrityborn.com/biography/kundan-srivastava/15801

https://popularwikibio.com/kundan-srivastava-bio-wiki-human-rights-activist-more/

Interviews:

https://writingtipsoasis.com/an-interview-with-kundan-srivastava-activist-and-author/

https://www.bepositive.online/kundan-srivastav-human-rights-activist/

Mentions:

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/South-Asia-shares-blame-for-Gulf-migrant-abuses

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/panorama/moderne-sklaverei-in-indien-verschwinden-jedes-jahr-rund-100-000-kinder/13690830.html

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/panorama/moderne-sklaverei-in-indien-verschwinden-jedes-jahr-rund-100-000-kinder/13690830.html

Awards:

https://www.internationalnewsandviews.com/a-human-rights-activist-wins-veer-putra-samman-award/

Works:

http://www.ptinews.com/news/8174159_Man-held-for-beating-septuagenarian-mother.html http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/man-held-for-beating-septuagenarian-mother/1/831889.html

https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2017/03/02/indian-american-girl-racially-abused-in-new-york-train423030/

https://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-indian-origin-physiotherapist-harassed-on-new-york-subway-2339919

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/sushma-takes-up-indian-worker-s-ill-treatment-with-saudi-authorities-after-video-plea/story-EkN4Kpi8Z33gVlOqZnSwrL.html Sushma Swaraj

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/indian-migrant-jail-saudi-arabia-working-conditions-314379-2016-03-22

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/cheated-exploited-and-trapped-untold-stories-indian-migrant-workers-saudi-arabia-43048

http://indianexpress.com/article/trending/this-is-serious/watch-70-yr-old-delhi-woman-brutally-beaten-by-son-helped-by-neighbours-video-goes-viral-4417492/

http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/10/horrific-images-show-70-year-old-woman-brutally-beaten-by-her-own-son-6314076/

https://www.mid-day.com/articles/viral-video-pune-back-bank-of-maharashtra-fastest-cashier-social-media-social-activist-kundan-srivastava-news/17726180

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/lifestyle/viral-and-trending/311016/the-reality-behind-a-viral-video-mocking-a-bank-cashier-is-inspiring.html

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/The-good-people-of-internet-take-down-the-video-mocking-Pune-bank-cashier/articleshow/55185926.cms

https://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/article/Scary-video-Indian-woman-beats-chokes-mother-in-6758996.php

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Shocking-video-of-woman-assaulting-mother-in-law-emerges-online/articleshow/50537993.cms

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/Woman-arrested-after-video-of-assault-on-mum-in-law-goes-viral/articleshow/50552827.cms

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/up-police-arrest-woman-for-torturing-beating-up-mother-in-law/story-fuesuogpgxe16eYzRnaoyH.html

https://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/01/12/woman-assault-mother-in-l_n_8959668.html

http://www.asianage.com/india/woman-held-beating-law-420

Social Media Profiles:

https://www.facebook.com/thekundansrivastava/

https://www.facebook.com/engineerkundansrivastava/

Surbhi20 (talk) 18:15, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Surbhi20, this appears to be reference bombing. Many of the sources you cite do not mention Srivastava at all, and those which do (at least on a spot check) seem only to be a name drop or brief mention. No number of mentions or name drops results in notability. The requirement is that multiple independent and reliable sources (which your top two are not) cover the subject in depth, not just mention them. That still does not seem to be the case here. If you have some sources you believe satisfy that requirement, please note two or three of those and those particular ones can be evaluated, but a bunch of passing mentions won't do the trick. Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Seraphimblade,

Thankyou for your reply. Sir, all the sources I cite do mention Srivastava’s works.

I understood your words for the independent and multiple sources that you mentioned.

Out of these 6 sources mentioned below ..how many you consider as reliable sources for Wikipedia?

Google: https://g.co/kgs/xPUYac

Bio:

https://www.celebrityborn.com/biography/kundan-srivastava/15801

https://popularwikibio.com/kundan-srivastava-bio-wiki-human-rights-activist-more/

Interviews:

https://writingtipsoasis.com/an-interview-with-kundan-srivastava-activist-and-author/

https://www.bepositive.online/kundan-srivastav-human-rights-activist/

Awards:

https://www.internationalnewsandviews.com/a-human-rights-activist-wins-veer-putra-samman-award/

Surbhi20 (talk) 02:31, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Surbhi20, hi - I'm afraid that from a quick check, none of those sources look suitable to me. I've never heard of 'Celebrityborn', 'writingtipsoasis' or 'bepositive' before, but none of them look like reliable sources with reputations for fact checking to me. The name of 'popularwikibio' implies that it is UGC, so also not reliable. INVC might be a bit better, but to be honest that looks like a rehashed press release, and winning a non-notable award (we don't have an article on it, so I assume it is not notable) doesn't make the subject notable. Is there any significant coverage of him in national news media? That would be a good start. GirthSummit (blether) 14:03, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Seraphimblade,

Thankyou so much for making me understand. Will search his significant coverage of national news media and will get back to you soon.

Surbhi20 (talk) 19:09, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For your main question ‘Can we have a Wikipedia profile of Kundan Srivastava? ’ the answer is: NO.
Wikipedia is not social media (see WP:NOTSOCIALMEDIA) – we don't have 'profiles' of anyone. We have articles about notable subjects, with specific criteria of notability (see WP:NOTABILITY). --CiaPan (talk) 06:45, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New Entry - Artwork

Hi-

I researched in grad school who does not have a Wiki entry and I feel should have one, and I joined so that I can write one, since I've accumulated more than enough resources about him and his work. Much of his work I have seen either in person or in photo documentation, and I'm wary of how much of my own observations, if not included in the verbiage of one of my sources, I can include in my entry.

Can descriptive observations of a work of art be included in a wiki entry if they are made either in person by the writer of the entry, or from images and documentation for which there is no accompanying text?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmerringer (talk • contribs) 18:37, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In answer to your questions - no, no, no, no. Your own observations are considered original research, which is forbidden. All content has to come from reliable sources. David notMD (talk) 19:15, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Lee Violinist Page

Could you please help me with the afd deletion notices on this page. Ben Lee (violinist) the page.Or how one would go about finding help with editing the page, so it may be saved from deletion. Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Armstrong21 (talk • contribs)

Armstrong21 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you click on the link in the Articles for Deletion notice, it will take you to the discussion page created to discuss the deletion proposal. There, you can see and respond to the nominator's concerns. What is your interest in "saving" the article(not just "page") from deletion? 331dot (talk) 19:12, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would add that, at the bottom of the AfD notice, there is a list of links under "find sources". Open each of those links in new tabs and explore a little to see if you can find new WP:RS that have WP:SIGCOV of him. If so, the article can be saved, if not, it's better to let it get deleted if community deems it necessary and recreate it once such sources become available to address all concerns that are raised in this AfD. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 19:35, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting vandalism

The Build a Bear article was vandalized. I know a bit about reverting, but if I revert, am I responsible for placing a warning on the user talk page of the vandal? Thanks. --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 19:45, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DiamondRemley39, you don't necessarily have to warn a user if you revert vandalism, but it's a good idea to do so. I've reverted the vandalism and given the warning in this case. Take a look at WP:TWINKLE for a tool to help in giving warnings, as well as many other things, if you like. Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:48, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Page For Card's Against Humanity Needs An Update

Specifically the section of packs they've come out with.

I've never edited an article and have no intention to but the pride pack, college pack, and many others aren't showing up and should be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.108.233.83 (talk) 22:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! You state you have no intention to edit an article. In that case, you may make an edit request at the article's talk page by following the instructions here. --MrClog (talk) 23:08, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki article was created with an individuals formerly known as name?

Hi,

There is a wiki article under the name Michael Hiltner- he is still living and has been known as Victor Vincente of America (his now legal name) since the 70s. I am working on an article about him, but believe the title should be changed and there should be a "...formerly known as Michael Beckwith Hiltner," in the bio section. From what I've read, it's not so simple to change this. Would someone share what my options are, if any? I want there to be a fleshed out and acurate article that reflects the name he's had for the last almost 50 years.

Thank you, Ash — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aelvie (talk • contribs) 02:45, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy: Article title is Michael Hiltner, not MBH. David notMD (talk) 03:02, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Corrected original post to reflect accurate article title. Oh, the irony! Aelvie (talk) 04:35, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Aelvie, the relevant information to your query is at the WP:NCP page, particularly the WP:SPNC section. Since it's quite clear, and is a hassle to summarise, I recommend reading the page itself. If you still have questions after reading it, we can discuss it further. As to the particulars of what your options are, it always starts with beginning a conversation at the most relevant page. If no one objects, it could become as simple as a BOLD page move to the new name. Otherwise, standard WP:DR procedure applies. Good luck! Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 13:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Editor with COI behaving like s/he "owns" page.

I don't know the best way to deal with the situation at Midwest University. There is an editor with an admitted conflict of interest who is behaving as though s/he owns the page, is changing the work of two other editors back to how s/he believes the page should read, and won't engage on his/her talk page. Is this considered vandalism for AIV purposes? Is there something I should do that I haven't done yet?  Eyer contact  03:01, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eyer Pls provide editor/IP name that you mentioned above to understand and to advise further if the editor made vandalized edits or it is a content dispute. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA — Thanks. I appreciate another set of eyes. It's User:Tbum777. In a diff, the editor stated "I am an employee of the University and I have corrected information." On a previous version of the user's talk page, the editor stated "I have been instructed my the President of the institution to correct the information."  Eyer contact  03:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Eyer, this is useful information about what looks like a serious policy violation. Please file a report at the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard, which is the proper venue to look into this. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:33, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Eyer and Tbum777:, I had a look at the edit made by both of you and you guys are engaging in WP:edit warring and would subject to be blocked for both of you violated the WP:3RR guideline. Pls stop revert each other edit immediately and bring the discussion to the article talk page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I've been trying to engage the editor on the User talk page. I'll try to engage on the article Talk page instead. I will still go to Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard, as I believe this is still an issue. Thanks again.  Eyer contact  03:41, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Eyer: You have warned Tbum777 on their talk page and not engaging in a discussion that is a big different. Communication is the key to resolve the issue in the article talk page to find a resolution. Do note any info change need to support by independent reliable source. If that doest not work then bring the issue to WP:ANI. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:48, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@CASSIOPEIA: To be fair to me, my warning included an invitation to discuss the situation: "[Y]ou may want to make use of the page Talk:Midwest University, to discuss any changes you propose. I am happy to facilitate changes to the article on your behalf." I welcome feedback on how I can communicate better, though, and I've taken yours. I'll post an invitation for discussion on the article talk page and see if that helps. Thanks again.  Eyer contact  03:55, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Highway Reststops

As we've driven across the U.S. multiple times it has occurred to us that there is no easy way to identify public rest stops along the major interstate highways. We use the wiki mobile app along our routes the navigator of our car reads out points of interest along the highway. I'd like to see if there is any interest in creating a series of pages along major Highways that have a standard template of features and links.

Users of the mobile app would be able to see these major points of public interest.

It would be nice if someone could click between these public rest stops along the major Interstate routes. Here is an example of a website that could be used as a source.

Interstate 20 Highway rest stops


Any interest?

Razinni — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razinni (talk • contribs) 03:37, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am not even sure that you are talking about Wikipedia but since no one's replied, I would like to say that The Teahouse is not equipped to handle the discussion of a proposal such as yours. If Wikipedia can do anything about what you want done, I think the best place to start would be at WP:Village pump, although I suspect they might direct you to the phabricator instead. Good luck! Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 13:18, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think WP:NOTGUIDEBOOK might apply here. John from Idegon (talk) 06:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Henry

I wrote a question that was mistaken as an article. I don't know Henry's last name but do know he acted in a classical kdrama and does cameoes on Home Alone. I wanted to know what the name of his new Historical Chinese dramas is. I also wonder why Home Alone isn't in his credits — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.23.229.126 (talk) 06:04, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See the answer to your previous question at #Henry above. David Biddulph (talk) 07:31, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Honeybee subspecies - A. m. carnica or A. m. carpatica?

Moved to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science § Honeybee subspecies - A. m. carnica or A. m. carpatica?

Flagged Revisions

hello, I have edited an Arabic page but it says it is" Flagged Revisions" I would like to know the reason please and how I can fix it. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Temlal Rozi (talk • contribs) 13:05, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Temlal Rozi: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. As your account has no other edits to the English Wikipedia other than your above comment, I assume you are referring to a page on the Arabic Wikipedia; you will need to address any issues with your edits to that version of Wikipedia there. Each language version of Wikipedia is its own project, with its own rules and processes. If I am in error, please clarify. 331dot (talk) 13:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Temlal Rozi: Hi and welcome to the English Wikipedia Teahouse. Please note that we cannot answer questions about other projects here, each language Wikipedia has their own rules and procedures. If you look on the left side of this page (at the top), you will see a box entitled "languages", there you can find a link to the Teahouse on the Arabic Wikipedia. You might also want to read meta:Flagged Revisions. Regards SoWhy 13:09, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Open Proxy

Where can i report Open Proxy(s)? -- CptViraj (📧) 13:27, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello CptViraj,How exactly did it harm the project?Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 15:18, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@CptViraj: open proxies can be reported at Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Talk pages of Draft articles?

Most Draft articles have no content on the Talk page, but I've seen a few. What happens if the article goes through successfully? Does the article start with a blank Talk page, or does the content carry over? David notMD (talk) 14:21, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article is moved to the mainspace to preserve history of contributors, talkpage follows wherever the article goes, history and all. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 15:16, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Add a photo on someone profile

How can i add a photo on someone profile? like someone profile pictures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MONZUR MORSHED (talk • contribs) 16:14, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MONZUR MORSHED, Hi! For a Userpage, or for an article? I would recommend using the upload Wizard at Wikimedia Commons
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegooduser (talk • contribs) 16:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
MONZUR MORSHED, just be aware that such a photo generally needs to be freely licensed. Either you as the photographer are willing to grant such a license, or the original copyright owner has explicitly released the photo under a sufficiently free license. You'll find more details at Commons:Commons:Licensing or can ask at Commons:Commons:Village pump/Copyright if you are unsure about the licensing for a particular image. "Fair use" photos of living persons taken from the Internet are not permitted. Hope this helps a bit to avoid some of the common pitfalls, but please feel free to ask here again if you have further questions. GermanJoe (talk) 09:07, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

page deletion

Hi,

Hope you're well.

I have edited the AdviceUK page on Wikipedia, however it has been deleted for copyright reasons. The text has been used from our website and it is our context, it is not copywriting. Can you please explain why this has been taken down?

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

Aashish Parmar — Preceding unsigned comment added by AParmar2019 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aashish. Even if you own the content, you cannot use it on Wikipedia as it would still be copyright (you would hold the copyright) and Wikipedia requires all content to be copyright-free. You would need to donate the material under an appropriate license, and you can find more information about that here: Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.
Also, I can't see the deleted page so I'm not sure what the background is or what you mean by 'your website', but it's worth noting that if you work for an organisation that is related to the page you are editing, then you should be aware of our policies on conflict of interest and paid editing. I hope this helps Hugsyrup (talk) 16:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also, AParmsr2019, even if you donate the material, it is most unlikely that the content of the organisation's website will be suitable for a Wikipedia article about the organisation. A Wikipedia article should be almost entirely based on material which people unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject. What the subject of the article says or wants to say about themselves is almost irrelevant. Most of the factual content of the website will be inadmissible unless it is also published in independent sources; and the way that material is presented is not likely to be neutral. --ColinFine (talk) 18:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I seem to be incapable of typing your user name right. Repinging again AParmar2019. --ColinFine (talk) 18:11, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Log in and Synchronization

Since a while my Tablet Fire HD (Fire OSD 6.3.0.1) stopped synching with my Android one smartphone. The moment I log In Wikipedia on my Fire tablet I get the message “logged in”. Unfortunately, Wikipedia keeps showing “LOG IN”. I guess I’m not properly logged in and thus synchronization does not work? This worked in the beginning. Both devices update OS automatically. It is impossible to know this problem started after a certain update. Thank you for helping. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dqcrob (talk • contribs) 17:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Clear your browser cache to log out. If on a PC do the same and then flush your DNS. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 17:40, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Publishing About A Comoany.

I have a company registered in London. I want to put my company details on the wikipedia for better understanding about my company. But when i placed my article Wikipedia have deleted my article. How can i put my company information on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UKTASK (talk • contribs) 17:47, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have blocked the user, who seems to be only here to promote their company. That's not what Wikipedia is for. Bishonen | talk 18:00, 16 July 2019 (UTC).[reply]
Blocked on account of your User name (which can be remedied) and because Wikipedia is not media for explanation of companies. Rather, what is essential is content written about the company by people completely unrelated to the company. Without seeing what you wrote, guessing that the company has not reached that level of notability. David notMD (talk) 18:22, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use quotation

Hi, I want to ask how much text can we quote? [Like X person said "...........".] How much text are we allowed to quote from what a person said?--SharabSalam (talk) 18:16, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! See MOS:QUOTE. Use common sense. If more experienced editors say you are overdoing it, either take heed or if you disagree, ask a few more experienced editors. If more than three experienced editors say you are overdoing it but not a single one comes to your defence, you are probably overdoing it. Be BOLD with what you think is good for the encyclopedia and just wait for others to disagree with you, so you can discuss it with them and reach a consensus on what's best. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 18:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again, I'd missed the copyright part the first time, WP:NFCCEG doesn't specify how much, just says it must be attributed with inline citations and put in quotations, and any deviations from the source must be clearly marked. As such, the answer is still the same as before though. Read WP:NFCCEG, especially the "Text" subsection and again use common sense. Copyvio is taken seriously, and could get an editor immediately banned. So, if it's too long, and you're unsure, better to propose it on the talk page or ask an experienced editor, in each such case. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 18:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@SharabSalam: Check WP:COPYQUOTE for guidance on quotations and fair use. RudolfRed (talk) 18:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Usedtobecool and RudolfRed: can you see if this is an appropriate use of quotations?--19:06, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that one has copyright. Even if it did, I suppose those quotes are short enough to be acceptable. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 20:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget the inline citations though. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 20:20, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Street success

Oh what a blessing, oh what a lesson that the street could bring don't wanna miss it just like child lean a.c.d 123 as I step to the street o Lord have mercy, street success Lord never make me ckik buket gat make money filled ma pocket (yeah) street might be hard but never too bad just wanna find away to succeed now, street is rugged money matter you get I get that's it better you been through I been through you know how it is money talking buisness — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zealmoses (talk • contribs) 18:56, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse is a place to ask questions about how to edit Wikipedia, and your User page is a place for you to provide information about yourself that will help people understand your qualifications and interests in being a Wikipedia editor. David notMD (talk) 19:37, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The letter "m" in edit summaries

I seem to have been noticing the letter "m" with nothing else at the top of page histories. I was going to ask what this meant, but have now discovered that it indicates a minor edit. Assuming I've correctly perceived that nothing else is there (I'll be checking on this), does this mean that I don't have to enter an edit summary if I mark my edit as minor? Or are editors who do this remiss and should enter an edit summary as well? Thanks. –Roy McCoy (talk) 19:00, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Roy McCoy: It is good practice to always include an edit summary, even for minor edits. See WP:ES for the guidance. RudolfRed (talk) 19:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to the Teahouse, Roy McCoy. Please read Help:Minor edit for information about when and when not to mark an edit as minor. I agree with RudolphRed that best practice is to provide an edit summary for every edit. These can be very brief, like "typo" or "rvv", which means "revert vandalism". Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks RudolfRed and Cullen. I'll note with interest possible future pages with "m" only, but in any event will avoid posting edits without summaries myself. –Roy McCoy (talk) 20:37, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. From what I am reading, it seems like if a logo for a business is uploaded with the permission of the owner, there are no restrictions on re-use. Doesn't this mean that anything (for example the Nike Logo or a a famous picture of a celebrity) that is on Wikipedia can just be used by anyone, anywhere, legally? I find this hard to believe.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertgomez87 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Robertgomez87: Some items on Wikipedia are used under WP:FAIRUSE, and are not licensed for reuse. RudolfRed (talk) 21:01, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Robertgomez87, On occasion, the copyright holder of a logo will freely license the logo so that I can be reused although almost always with the attribution restriction. However, this is extremely rare for large well-known companies and almost always involves small relatively new companies. In some cases they may know what they're doing but in many cases my guess is they don't. The vast majority are fair use, and should not be copied or used elsewhere. S Philbrick(Talk) 01:06, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation item without article link

On a disambiguation page, it is possible to add an item that does not have its own article, within WP policy? I recently had an edit reverted because there was no article to link to, correctly I think; I then made an addition to a main article first, which was OK. Now, I would like to similarly add a usage to a dab page where again there is no main article. Specifically, I would like to add culinary usage to Gigot, see Talk:Gigot. How strict is the WP policy on requiring a main article to link to on a dab page? Would a reference in the body of an existing article do? Or add a description with no WP link but a good cite? --D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 21:45, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi D Anthony Patriarche. Every entry must have a link. It can be a main article about the subject, another article which includes something about the subject, or in certain cases a red link. But Wikipedia is not a dictionary. The top right of Gigot links to Wiktionary which is a dictionary and includes your meaning at wikt:gigot. See more at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages. Lamb and mutton and Scottish cuisine define gigot but nothing else. They are potential but weak link targets for a see also entry like:
PrimeHunter (talk) 12:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Gigot isn't actually a disambiguation page but a page about a surname so a non-surname entry should be linked in a hatnote if at all. Red links should never be in hatnotes. I think "Leg (gigot in Scotland)" in Lamb and mutton is too little for a hatnote. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

The page is locked from editing. I have noticed that fictional characters are listed as historical characters. Also names are misspelled. I am curious if the page can be unlocked so I can edit it? If not, can someone correct these mistakes? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk • contribs) 23:33, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Samurai Kung fu Cowboy, to get that to happen, make edit requests at the article talk page. Be clear (replace x-line in section-a with y-line), and be sure to provide a reliable published secondary source for every fact you propose. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 04:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Retitle a draft (on the one concerning contradiction in Poetics 14)

Is it possible to rename a draft? "Problem" might be better than "contradiction," and omit "the"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_contradiction_of_Poetics_chapters_13_and_14Cdg1072 (talk) 01:26, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The draft can be moved to Problem of Poetics chapters 13 and 14. You can click the "Move" tab at the page top of the draft, change the title, and click the "Move page" button.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You can do that, but honestly, why? The title can be corrected when it is moved to mainspace and prior to that time, the title doesn't matter. It isn't indexed anywhere, and the title is not relative to whether or not it will make an acceptable encyclopedia article. John from Idegon (talk) 04:23, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. No reason to do it since it's irrelevant to the decision.Cdg1072 (talk) 04:45, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again, Cdg1072. The eventual article title, if the draft is accepted, should definitely mention Aristotle. Otherwise, the title is a confusing jumble. But focus on the article content at this time, not the title. That comes later. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you mean, Aristotle should be in the title because it's not common knowledge that he wrote the Poetics.Cdg1072 (talk) 06:35, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is another issue about the article, that those who evaluate it (whatever their decision) might miss. I think it's clear that Dacier's theory on the problem is notable, and it's necessary to point out that he changes the numbering of the four treatments of the 'terrible deed', though of course he rightly uses Aristotle's ranking of them. But Dacier's new numbering is on page 256 in the 1705 English volume containing his notes, while that pages jumps to 241, so Dacier's solution to the problem is on page 245 in that translation. So the page numbering in the 1705 book has this odd break, and so awkward that it's best not to mention in the article. Perhaps if some third-party report of Dacier existed then this glitch could be bypassed. But it is best to use this direct source. I'm just using the page numbers as they are and leave it at that.Cdg1072 (talk) 15:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

blocked by another user

Hello, I am a rabbit vet trying to update the page on myxomatosis by adding a section on North America. There are currently sections on Ireland, Australia, France, Britian, and New Zealand. However my content (though perfectly accurate) was removed and I received an email saying that North America didn't deserve a special mention. This makes no sense, my patients are dying from this disease and situation is very different here than in Europe and Australia for multiple reasons. How do I respond to this person? He threatens to block me if I add the section back in. I wrote back in the same window but got no reply. Below is the conversation:

Your edits to Myxomatosis Welcome and thanks for your recent contributions to the myxamotosis article. However, you shouldn't just revert the contributions of other editorsto your preferred verison. Nor should you make edits without reading the article. You have done this in your latest edits, and as a result you have duplicated large amounts of information. There are a few Wikipedia policies you should familiarise yourself with. The most important are WP:BRD and WP:3RR. In short form, when you make an edit and someone removes it, don't just reinstate it. Instead, start a discussion on the article talk page. If you reinstate the material more than three times, you will be blocked from editing. As far as your actual edits, they are good, but this is a global English encyclopaedia, not a US encylopaedia. See WP:GLOBAL. The US isn't exceptional and doesn't deserve special mention just for being the US. As a general rule of thumb, if the article couldn't handle material of the same level of detail for all 120 odd nations on the planet, don't add it for the US. IOW, this article clearly wouldn't be readable if we had hundreds of words on the disease in Canada, Mexico, Slovakia, Fiji etc. So unless there is something highly notable about the US, please don't create a US specific section. We have sections on Australia in this article because it is commonly and notably held up as a globally relevant example of succesful biological control. The treatment and spread of the disease in US domestic/feral rabbits isn't particularly differrent from anywhere else on the planet and so isn't obviously notable. That the disease is native to the US is notable and has been retained in the appropriate parts of the article. Thanks for yourcontributions, keep up the good work, but please familiarise yourself with the rules of Wikipedia to avoid irritating other contributors andpotentially being nlocked from editingMark Marathon (talk) 23:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Mark, Sorry if I am a bit clumsy with editing, this is the first time I have tried it. I was in the middle of clarifying some points, and got called away for an hour. I see now that I should not do editing on the live site, but on a word document on by computer so that I can insert the finished product all at once. I am a veterinarian that works with rabbits. My patients are currently dying from this disease. I was trying to add a section on North America because no one here knows about the disease. It has gotten so much more press in Australia and England! I am certainly not trying to remove content, just add to it. But in reorganizing it I have incurred your wrath I see. Why can I not add a section on North America? There already exists sections on Australia, New Zealand, England, France, and Ireland. Are we not worthy? I did not put it under the "population control' heading because the disease here is endemic. Please respond. I do want to add a section on North America, but don't want to be blocked by you. Thank you, Rabbit Vet (talk) 00:17, 17 July 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabbit Vet (talk • contribs)

The place to discuss the article on Myxomatosis is its talk page: Talk:Myxomatosis. David Biddulph (talk) 03:14, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Rabbit Vet, what you do for a living is completely irrelevant here, as is what you know. Encyclopedias are tertiary. So take your knowledge of veterinary medicine, use it to find reliable sources, and make arguments at the article talk page supported by those sources. We have very strong sourcing requirements for human medicine, and to be honest, I'm not sure to what extent, if any, they apply to veterinary medicine and perhaps another host can clarify that for us. Experts are very welcome here, but remember that your expertise cannot be used as a source. Your far greater familiarity with the literature is where your expertise will benefit the encyclopedia. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 04:18, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
... and please don't compose a new article in Word and then replace content on the Wikipedia page. This can cause problems with Wikipedia markup, and is likely to be unpopular with other editors. It is much better to make small edits (after having discussed them on the talk page, as recommended above) to gradually improve the article. Dbfirs 07:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi John! Veterinary medicine has the same strong sourcing requirements as human medicine. I am currently writing a paper on myxomatosis for a journal and have 60+ references at my fingertips. I will be sure to use them. Thanks for letting me know about Word, I will keep it in mind! Rabbit Vet (talk) 08:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Rabbit Vet: Just for clarity: Mark Marathon did not 'threaten to block you' when talking to you. He just tried to warn you that repeated reverting Wikipeda articles' contents, whether whole or in parts, especially if not discussed, is considered disruption – and disruptive editors are usually blocked from editing. It didn't mean Mark Marathon would perform a block himself, nor it would be his own arbitrary decision.
Repetitive reverting is a form of edit warring, which is defined in Wikipedia:Edit warring policy. The main borderline is defined by 'The three-revert rule' there (see section WP:3RR), and crossing it usually results in a block.
I'm sure you understand such large projest like Wikipedia must have some rules to work successfuly. And as a new Wikipedian you're not familiar with most of them. Just take it easy, make small steps and seek Consensus when someone objects, Assume good faith and remember there is WP:NORUSH. Good luck & happy editing! --CiaPan (talk) 09:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Forgot to add: you have successfully ;) passed two phases of the WP:BRD cycle – now it's time to discuss and then go on again. :) CiaPan (talk) 09:32, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For editing content away from article and then reinserting, I find that my own Sandbox is perfect for this task. I can move a section or sub-section there, edit, check that I have formated the references correctly, then copy into the article. Helpful to other editors is to include a useful Edit summary, and if the change is likely to be debated, start a new section on the Talk page of the article. On selecting references, Wikipedia's critera for medicine and health WP:MEDRS is not to cite or use information from in vitro work or individual trials. Rather, limit to reviews, systematic reviews and meta-analyses. Don't 'reference-bomb' the article with dozens of refs when a few will do. David notMD (talk) 10:39, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Best part to be a genuine Wikipedian.

How to be a genuine Wikipedian ? After how many times of edits to be considered an elite Wikipedia editor ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandria76 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't a video game. You do not level up by gaining more experience points here. John from Idegon (talk) 04:04, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair there are these Wikipedia:Service awards but they are only used for fun. Otherwise John from Idegon is correct. MarnetteD|Talk 04:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to the Teahouse, Alexandria76. Everyone who makes at least one productive edit is a "genuine Wikipedian". The quality of your edits is vastly more important than the quantity of your edits. It is far better to make ten excellent edits than a thousand mediocre edits. We do not have elite editors, but rather we have respected editors who are recognized as people who are working hard to improve this encyclopedia. Some of those people may have 1000 edits while others may have 50,000 edits. People look at the quality of the articles that you have created or expanded, and how helpful you have been, and whether or not you work to resolve disputes and help create consensus. This is a collaborative project to create a free encylopedia, not an MMPORG. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:36, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How to I move my first article from Draft to Wikipedia?

I have published my first article. It is in Draft wikipedia. How do i move my article from Draft wikipedia to Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chintan P Bhagat (talk • contribs) 05:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Chintan P Bhagat: It might help if you post a link to your draft. But generally you don't move article you wrote from the Draft: space to article space. You should just insert this code: {{subst:submit}} at the top of your draft article and wait for some editor to validate your submission. --CiaPan (talk) 06:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A reply not expected anymore – the account has been blocked indefinitely at 06:44, 17 July 2019 (UTC) --CiaPan (talk) 11:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notability Source clarification

I have created my first draft in wikipedia and i need a clarification about the notability source. Do the pages or sources we are linking need a clear mention about the topic i am talking about or just a reference would be enough? For example can we give a back link as the source link that we got in the topic that i have drafted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stylus123 (talk • contribs) 07:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Stylus123 and welcome to the Teahouse. Short version at WP:GNG, a little longer at WP:NORG. You need to find sources that at the same time are independant of the topic, reliably published and more than briefly mentions the topic. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article rejected, reason is "undefined"

Hello All,

A draft article was rejected and the reason left by the reviewer is "undefined". This is not helpful as i don't know how to imrove my article. Is there any other way to receive feedback on a draft in order to hopefully publish it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by JAmbrogi (talk • contribs) 08:15, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, JAmbrogi. I can see how that would be confusing. However, if you go to Draft:"Draft" Eurodiaconia, you'll see that the reviewer has left an explanation below the decline template at the top of the page. It seems that the submission was a duplicate, and the other version will be reviewed instead. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:18, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Except, checking the two drafts, they differ and the other one hasn't been submitted for review. Could you clarify, Dan arndt? Cordless Larry (talk) 08:21, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The other one seems to have COI issues. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 08:39, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the response. Could this version be considered instead then? Thanks, JAmbrogi

This first arose when I tried to move Draft:"Draft" Eurodiaconia to Draft:Eurodiaconia and discovered there was already a draft in existence. My suggestion is that JAmbrogi undertakes a cut & paste exercise moving the relevant sourced information from Draft:"Draft" Eurodiaconia to Draft:Eurodiaconia. Noting that JAmbrogi's draft does include some close paraphrasing from a number of sources and a fair amount of extraneous non-encyclopedic (almost promotional) information. Dan arndt (talk) 09:40, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestion. I have now transferred the relevant information to Draft:Eurodiaconia and also tried to make the description more encyclopedic. Please let me know if it's ok like this. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by JAmbrogi (talk • contribs) 12:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This draft (or one of the drafts about this subject) was previously discussed at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 974#Why was my article rejected?. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:56, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Creating multiple copies of a draft is not recommended, as it often leads to confusion (as here). Maproom (talk) 14:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted article info?

Hi, dear people, a person asked my, why his article was deleted - of course i have no idea, because i didn't even know there existed an article on him - i don't know this person very well, but he knows i write for the wikipedia, so he asked me. Is there a place where one can see which article has when been deleted and why? Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 11:59, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gyanda. Clicking a red link to a deleted page like Locker Okorie will show its deletion log. The exact name can also be entered at Special:Log/delete. Administrators can search deleted page names at Special:Undelete without knowing the exact name. See more at Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your quick answer, i searched and cannot find a deleted article with his name. I just tell him that - i don't want to put much time into it, i don't even know this person well. You are wonderful here at the teahouse, one gets answers within short time. Thank you very much! Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 12:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Gyanda: I'm afraid you will not find an article just by searching its name if it got deleted. See, 'deleted' means, more or less, 'you can't find it'... You need to know the exact name to look at the article location, where the deletion message will appear. Or involve some admin to search through logs if you're not an admin yourself. --CiaPan (talk) 12:42, 17 July 2019 (UTC).[reply]
We can search for it if you name him. I'm an administrator. Note that some readers and new users incorrectly assume an article was deleted if they see a red link. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You people are really wonderful. He's just a facebookfriend and is very annoying in his comments, so i won't put energy in it. Perhaps will even unfriend him, don't know him in person and he's kind of picking on wikipedia all the time. As said, annoying. I guess for sure the article got deleted because he is not way so important as he thinks he is :-). Thanks for all your efforts, i'm really thankful for that! Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 14:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Policy compendium

Does Wikipedia have a compendium of all policies and guidelines, similar to the U.S.C.? --Puzzledvegetable|💬|📧|📜 13:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Puzzledvegetable You might start by visiting WP:POLICY and scrolling to the bottom of that page, where there is a template that lists many policies and guidelines, though I'm not aware off the top of my head of a specific "compendium" of them. 331dot (talk) 13:45, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, in that regard it's more like the British Constitution. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230 195} 2.122.177.55 (talk) 23:49, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How to publish a profile

Hi,

Am trying to publish a profile on wikipedia like Aliko Dangote how do I get the template to follow on publishing articles like that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amexmedia (talk • contribs) 13:35, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Amexmedia: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia does not have "profiles". Wikipedia has articles about subjects that get significant coverage in independent reliable sources and meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability(in the case of a person, that at WP:BIO).
From your use of the term profile and your username, I gather that you wish to edit on behalf of a client. You will first need to change your username immediately; I will post information on how you can do this on your user talk page in a moment. You will also need to read the conflict of interest policy and the paid editing policy, as you have some required declarations to make. Those pages will also make it clear that it is inadvisable for you to attempt to edit about clients directly. 331dot (talk) 13:41, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Roux Shabangu (the subject of your deleted draft) may meet Wikipedia's definition of notability, but be aware that neither the subject of an article nor the creator of an article "owns" the article. Any such article on RS would surely be subsequently edited to include all the financial misdeeds RS is either accused of or has been convicted of. David notMD (talk) 13:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New editor looking for the best place to find things for editing

Hey, I am a new editor. I am wondering where the best place to find things to be edited are. I have been looking in the article creation requests area and the proposed deletion area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GingeBro (talk • contribs) 14:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion and WP:AFD is not a bad place to start, if you can find articles that are up for deletion but you could improve by re-writing or finding better sources, then that's always a great way to spend your time. You could also look at the various backlogs at Wikipedia:Backlog as there are lots of things that need attention here. Hugsyrup (talk) 14:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@GingeBro: I have to disagree with Hugsyrup's advice here. Many articles at proposed deletion / AfD are very likely to be deleted in the near future, which would mean your edits go down the drain as well. Understanding the argument for deletion is hard; sometimes, fixing the root cause is just not possible. So you would need a good understanding of what the deletion argument rests on, and make edits to dispel it. That can be very hard even for somewhat experienced contributors.
In contrast, when something has been marked for a maintenance task (as shown in the community portal suggested by Teblick), a specific problem has been identified, so it is easier to know what to fix (assuming the editor who tagged the problem correctly identified it). TigraanClick here to contact me 10:21, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi GingeBro—the watchlist can be helpful in this regard. Bus stop (talk) 14:26, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello GingeBro. I recommend that you visit the Community Portal. It has links (which I think change daily) to articles that need help, with the articles divided into nine categories. You might also scroll down on that page to look at the box titled Active Wiki Fixup Projects. It has links to still more opportunities for improving articles. Eddie Blick (talk) 18:26, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Excluding infobox categories from user page

Hello, I used the Wikipedia category|hidden=yes template to prevent my infobox from showing a gender category under my profile. However, now I'm getting a transgender gender icon plus the tooltip is filled with something about maintenance categories. How do I fix this? NinuKinuski (talk) 15:11, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All you have to do to exclude categories in an Infobox is to not put them in there. LPS and MLP Fan (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 15:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't really answer the question and you know it. NinuKinuski (talk) 18:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@NinuKinuski: It varies how to avoid categories from templates when it's even possible. Template:Infobox Wikipedia user mentions nocat. I have added | nocat = true.[3] {{Wikipedia category|hidden=yes}} is unrelatred and only had an effect here because it damaged a parameter used to determine which category to add. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:49, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Logging in to an older Wikipedia sandbox

I have a Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datar%E2%80%93Mathews_method_for_real_option_valuation) and had a sandbox with the user name "Scotthmathews". I can no longer log into that sandbox because my registered email address is not available to me -- I am retired from my former company and no longer able to access this email address. How can I access this sandbox and register a new email address? I would like to continue contributing to my Wikipedia page. Thank you. Scott Mathews — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:3023:75C:E000:4428:A9A4:FB3F:9177 (talk) 17:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I assume that you mean you have forgotten your password and are trying to recover it(as you don't need your email address to just log in). I'm afraid that your only option would be to create a new account and identify it as a successor to your prior account, as there is no way to recover a password without the associated email address, and I believe no one can change it except for you. 331dot (talk) 17:42, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
But note that there is no such concept of "logging into a sandbox". You log into an account (or don't) and you can immediately edit most pages in Wikipedia. In particular, you can continue editing the article Datar–Mathews method for real option valuation, which does not belong to you or anybody else. You (or anybody else) can also continue editing User:Scotthmathews/Sandbox - though since it appears to be largely a duplicate of the article, this may not be a good idea. I also note that if you are the Mathews referred to in the title, then you probably have a conflict of interest, and should avoid editing the article in question, and it probably needs more citations to sources unconnected with you and fewer to sources derived from you. In general Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article, or people closely connected with the subject of an article, say or want to say about it: it is only interested in what people wholly unconnected with the subject of the article have chosen to publish about it - and if there is little or no such independent material, then the subject fails Wikipedia's test of notability, and no article is possible. --ColinFine (talk) 17:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I assume that you are also ScottMathews as well as Scotthmathews? --David Biddulph (talk) 18:01, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How much time will it take to approve an article on wikipedia?

Hi everyone, Just created my first page and would like to know how much time it takes for it to be approved Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Upwork.w.a (talk • contribs) 17:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Upwork.w.a: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you are referring to the draft you created that is in Hebrew, it will not be accepted as this is the English Wikipedia(unless you were to translate it into English). There is a Hebrew Wikipedia. Leaving that aside, there is no set time frame for reviews once submitted through Articles for Creation(you haven't submitted your draft for review). There are currently over 4000 drafts awaiting review, and they are done in no particular order. 331dot (talk) 17:39, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, you can just take your work over to the hebrew wikipedia and submit it there. In addition to that, it looks like your username may represent an organisation or a group. Wikipedia doesn't allow certain kinds of usernames to be used. You might want to refer to WP:UPOL to see if you need to retire this account and register a new policy-compliant username, assuming you wish to continue editing at the English Wikipedia. If you are receiving payment from a client for any of your edits here, you need to disclose that as well. Please refer to WP:COI for that and other kinds of conflicts of interest that an editor should manage. Good luck! Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 18:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

when an article does not exist in English but does exist in German

OK so I started writing an article in myspace which I think is needed about dimethylol propionic acid - it is here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GRALISTAIR/Dimethylol_propionic_acid this was after I searched and searched Wikipedia and the article did not exist.

On further inspection there is Wikidata for this molecule and an article in German

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q27260246

Should I finish the article in English - or is it beeter to try and get a translation of the German page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GRALISTAIR (talk • contribs) 20:30, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

​You can do a combination of both, if you want. See Wikipedia:Translation for guidance on translating pages. Eman235/talk 21:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@GRALISTAIR: One thing to remember though is that each Wikipedia project is separate from one another and each project has its own policies and guidelines. There may be some overlap when it comes to policies, etc., but there might also be some important difference. So, the fact that an article exists on one Wikipedia doesn't automatically mean it should exist on other Wikipedias. So, an article existing on German Wikipedia doesn't necessarily mean the same article should be on English Wikipedia as well. Basically, only subject considered to be Wikipedia notable are supposed to have stand-alone articles written about them, and how that is applied to this subject is going to ultimately determine whether such an article will be kept. Moreover, what's considered to be a reliable source for English Wikipedia purposes might not be the same as German Wikipedia. Another thing to consider is that maybe someone already tried to write such an article, but it was deleted for some reason, or the content was incorporated into another already existing article. So, you might want to ask about this at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemicals since the members of that Wikiproject should be able to provide you with some more specific advise. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:44, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How do I join - I am a research chemist by occupation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GRALISTAIR (talk • contribs) 01:22, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GRALISTAIR. You already 'joined' Wikipedia when you registered your account in December 2011. Do be sure to check out your talk page regularly for messages from other editors. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:40, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again GRAILSTAIR. If, by chance, you meant "how do I join Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemicals?", then there's no real formal application process. The project page's description says "To join, simply list yourself at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemicals#Participants by adding your name (and table format) to the section." All you apparently need to add your name to the table. The list of participants looks like it's alphabetized by username; so, add yours in the appropriate spot and just format the entry like the rest of the table. There's also a corresponding userbox you can add to your userpage if you want, but that's not required. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:10, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My article has been tagged with ‪"Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Noman Javed‬"

How do I improve my article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anoshasays#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Draft%3ANoman_Javed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anoshasays (talk • contribs) 04:07, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Anoshasays. The article was tagged under criteria G11 which means that it was seen as purely promotional in nature. It has now been deleted so I can't see the draft and comment on specific details, but here are some general pointers:
  • Do you have any connection with Noman Javed? It is almost always best not to write about yourself or people you know, as this will usually come across as more promotional.
  • Did you have good sources for everything in the article? Everything on Wikipedia needs to be backed up in reliable sources (quality newspapers, books, peer-reviewed journals, that sort of thing). Even if you know something about someone, it shouldn't go in the article unless it is backed by a source.
  • Make sure the tone comes across as balanced, not promotional. State facts, not opinion or things that could be open to interpretation,
I hope that helps. Hugsyrup (talk) 08:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How do I add a book reference

Hi. I would like to know how to make a book reference please.MetroManMelbourne (talk) 10:24, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The easiest way is to use the template {{cite book}} and fill in the relevant parameters. David Biddulph (talk) 10:39, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi MetroManMelbourne - note that you can use the Cite tool just above the editing window for this. Click on the 'Templates' drop-down menu, select 'Book', and then just fill in the blank fields, and the citation will be added automatically. GirthSummit (blether) 11:13, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Deleting Redirect Page of Mohammad Qasim

Hey, i want to make request to delete a page Mohammad Qasim on WP which is redirect to another person Moulana Mohammad Qasim, i dont know why Mr. Saqib redirect it to another page and giving political benefits to that person, if u see Mr Saqib talk page he already make alot to changes and give benefits to other people and senior users removed his changes, kindly remove/delete that page Mohammad Qasim so i can make a page for another well known personalty in Pakistan so people have a chance to find more about that person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdullah1440 (talk • contribs) 10:58, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Abdullah1440, you could create the page at Draft:Mohammad Qasim, and submit the draft for review at WP:AfC. If it is accepted, the redirect could be replaced with your content. I would note however that the content you added in this edit would likely not be accepted as an article: the text is not written neutrally, and the sources are mostly YouTube videos about the subject. If you could find more independent sources writing about him, and phrase the content in a way that does not put his claims and assertions about his dreams into Wikipedia's voice, you would have a better chance of having the draft accepted. GirthSummit (blether) 11:11, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ok thank you for your reply, there is more independent sources are available, in news papers and on english news sites i will add them, thanks for the guide, regards

P Balachandran

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