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:'''Support''' [[2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses]]. The protests have moved beyond the United States. The word "encampment", specifically the title Gaza Solidarity Encampment, is relatively common already but sometimes means just Columbia University. [[User:MarkiPoli|MarkiPoli]] ([[User talk:MarkiPoli|talk]]) 08:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
:'''Support''' [[2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses]]. The protests have moved beyond the United States. The word "encampment", specifically the title Gaza Solidarity Encampment, is relatively common already but sometimes means just Columbia University. [[User:MarkiPoli|MarkiPoli]] ([[User talk:MarkiPoli|talk]]) 08:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''' [[April 2024 Israel–Hamas war protests on university campuses in the United States|The People's University for Palestine (College protests)]] ''(also referred as " The People's University for Gaza", "The Popular University for Palestine" or "The Popular University for Gaza")''. Many college encampments are referred as "The People's University for Palestine" or other variations as it encapsulates both the protest aspect but also the teach-ins that are carried out, religious events, dances, artworks, improvised libraries... One of the goals of these protests is to create autonomous and independent spaces inside the premises of the Universities where pro-Palestinian discourse can be carried out. '''Stanford:''' [https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2024/04/26/18865383.php?show_comments=1][https://www.indybay.org/calendar/?page_id=] '''Columbia:''' [https://thespectator.com/topic/ground-people-university-palestine-columbia-protest/] '''Cornell:''' [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-4YWN7GhZdVcCyffAbudooxHcQaAJQpN/view?usp=sharing][https://cmlithaca.org/events] here are some links, I can provide more. [[User:Hstoops|Hstoops]] ([[User talk:Hstoops|talk]]) 20:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
:'''Support''' [[April 2024 Israel–Hamas war protests on university campuses in the United States|The People's University for Palestine (College protests)]] ''(also referred as " The People's University for Gaza", "The Popular University for Palestine" or "The Popular University for Gaza")''. Many college encampments are referred as "The People's University for Palestine" or other variations as it encapsulates both the protest aspect but also the teach-ins that are carried out, religious events, dances, artworks, improvised libraries... One of the goals of these protests is to create autonomous and independent spaces inside the premises of the Universities where pro-Palestinian discourse can be carried out. '''Stanford:''' [https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2024/04/26/18865383.php?show_comments=1][https://www.indybay.org/calendar/?page_id=] '''Columbia:''' [https://thespectator.com/topic/ground-people-university-palestine-columbia-protest/] '''Cornell:''' [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-4YWN7GhZdVcCyffAbudooxHcQaAJQpN/view?usp=sharing][https://cmlithaca.org/events] here are some links, I can provide more. [[User:Hstoops|Hstoops]] ([[User talk:Hstoops|talk]]) 20:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''' 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses [[User:Sawerchessread]] ([[User talk:Sawerchessread|talk]]) 00:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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'''Oppose''' United States shouldn't be mentioned in the title, given these protests aren't just local, but are happening in several countries. [[User:Nfitz|Nfitz]] ([[User talk:Nfitz|talk]]) 22:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
'''Oppose''' United States shouldn't be mentioned in the title, given these protests aren't just local, but are happening in several countries. [[User:Nfitz|Nfitz]] ([[User talk:Nfitz|talk]]) 22:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 April 2024
There's a typo in the paragraph on Princeton—the arrests were on April 25, not 15. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben-net-duck (talk • contribs) 12:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 April 2024
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Hi there, I am a long term reader of Wikipedia. this was my 1st attempted edit. I felt that it was important to give more information about the cancelling of Asna Tabassum, 2024 Valedictorian at USC, reflecting who she is. (I find her a remarkable inspiration!) I saw this interview of her from Wednesday 4 24 24 on Democracy Now, and was very moved by what she shared. I wanted to learn more and went on Wiki, but found little info about her. So I attempted to add a few quotes, that would help readers understand more of the issue around this Valedictorian speech cancellation, a 1st in USC history. Here is the edit I offered: Please feel free to include it or not, and correct formatting or not. Warm Regards, Dr. Suzanne Lerner PS I tried to copy the citation format, but have no previous experience coding, so I did my best. Feel free to change it.
Southern California
USC claimed they were cancelling their invitation for Asna to give the USC 2024 Valedictorians speech, due to safety reasons. Asna was given no details as to what the security threats or what the security concerns were. When she asked for details regarding the security concerns — for example, were they security concerns about her or her classmates? — She was offered no information and was told it was not appropriate for her to know.
Asna was chosen out of a group of 100 students with a GPA > than 3.9, Asna has a Major in Bio-Medical Engineering, and a Minor is Resistance to Genocide. As she stated in an interview recorded Wednesday, 4 24 24 on Democracy Now: "I see my major and my minor working together, for the very same goal, is that, you know, my minor in resistance to genocide allows me to study the human condition at possibly one of its worst conditions, and then biomedical engineering is my way of learning technically how we can improve the human condition through increasing health accessibility." While some groups used an article she had posted a link to, to claim that she was promoting a one State solution, Asna points out that in the very next paragraph, "there are paragraphs and information relating to the two-state solution, as well...as the one-state. The sentence right after the one you just quoted (about a possible one state solution) talks about coexistence between Arabs and Jews." Asna added that "In no way am I advocating for hate. I am only advocating for human equality and for the sanctity of human life when I say that Palestinians, as well as Jews, as well as Muslims and Armenians and anyone else who is invested in this conflict, has the equal right to life and the equal privilege of the fullest extent to life."
[1] Suzanne2.0 (talk) 01:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: There is no consensus on the reliability of Democracy Now, and attribution is recommended if it is used as a source. It would probably be best to use a different source, which should be easy to find since this has been widely covered.
- Aside from that, the details seem a bit out of scope for this article. This amount of context could be useful in an article about her, this event, or the USC protests in general - but in this case we probably don't need more than a sentence or two. Jamedeus (talk) 02:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Should "Unrest" be a term?
Protests have turned violent in some cases. Should the term "Unrest" be used? SpringField23402 (talk) 15:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Cite your source on the protests turning violent. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- How do you cite? SpringField23402 (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Just copy-paste the link to the source here if you want. Or read WP:CITE -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/24/us/columbia-protests-mike-johnson SpringField23402 (talk) 12:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. @ElijahPepe, I can't read the full article; if you can, can you reply? Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. The claim that the protests are growing violent was made by speaker Mike Johnson, who was attempting to amplify his message. Until several sources have claimed so, it woukd not be prudent to state the protests are violent. I support using "civil unrest" to reflect the increasing conflict between protesters and law enforcement, however. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 17:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- So that's a yes? Unrest should be a term in this event? SpringField23402 (talk) 18:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Civil unrest. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Got it SpringField23402 (talk) 19:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Civil unrest. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- So that's a yes? Unrest should be a term in this event? SpringField23402 (talk) 18:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. The claim that the protests are growing violent was made by speaker Mike Johnson, who was attempting to amplify his message. Until several sources have claimed so, it woukd not be prudent to state the protests are violent. I support using "civil unrest" to reflect the increasing conflict between protesters and law enforcement, however. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 17:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. @ElijahPepe, I can't read the full article; if you can, can you reply? Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/24/us/columbia-protests-mike-johnson SpringField23402 (talk) 12:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Just copy-paste the link to the source here if you want. Or read WP:CITE -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- How do you cite? SpringField23402 (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
International?
I'm seeing reports of solidarity encampments at universities in France, Italy and Australia. Is there a separate page for that? Kire1975 (talk) 21:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Kire1975: The page has been renamed with a wider scope, so it's no longer restricted to US universities. Boud (talk) 01:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- What rename do you refer to? I see "April 2024 pro-Palestinian protests across US universities, which seems to still be very US exclusive (contrary to the "International" subheader)
(later edit: It seems it was changed and now turned back to US, you can ignore this reply)
- Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk me) 12:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
What can I do with photos we took at the University of Texas at Austin protest?
I'd like them to be used on the page somewhere, if it is possible.
How could this be done? Irisoptical (talk) 23:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Irisoptical: Upload them to Wikimedia Commons. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 00:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Heyo! Do I have the rights to those photos then? I don't want to get into any legal trouble for taking pictures of the protest or police at the protest. I really want to show people what happened though. Irisoptical (talk) 08:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, if you took the photos then you own the rights to them. As far as I'm aware there's nothing illegal about taking photos of a protest in Texas. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- thank you! I'll get to it right away. Any tips on adding them to pages? I know this page is locked but I would like to have one of my pictures added once I add them to wikipedia Irisoptical (talk) 18:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I can handle adding your photographs once you upload them. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- kk Irisoptical (talk) 23:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I can handle adding your photographs once you upload them. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- thank you! I'll get to it right away. Any tips on adding them to pages? I know this page is locked but I would like to have one of my pictures added once I add them to wikipedia Irisoptical (talk) 18:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, if you took the photos then you own the rights to them. As far as I'm aware there's nothing illegal about taking photos of a protest in Texas. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello there, I uploaded 3 photos just now and will link them below. I'd like at least one of them to be used, and feel like each of the three have some sort of use somewhere.
- File:Protest Image UT Austin (3).jpg - Wikipedia
- File:Protest Image UT Austin (2).jpg - Wikipedia
- File:Protest Image UT Austin (4).jpg - Wikipedia
- Again, thanks so much for your help! Irisoptical (talk) 00:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Irisoptical: I incorporated one of your photographs into the infobox. Thank you. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 03:03, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help! Glad to contribute. UnrealJett (talk) 06:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- what Irisoptical (talk) 01:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help! Glad to contribute. UnrealJett (talk) 06:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Irisoptical: I incorporated one of your photographs into the infobox. Thank you. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 03:03, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Heyo! Do I have the rights to those photos then? I don't want to get into any legal trouble for taking pictures of the protest or police at the protest. I really want to show people what happened though. Irisoptical (talk) 08:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
We need to flesh out more of these university subsections
Obviously when this settles down of course, and while information is flowing in we can continue to fill in each subsection as necessary.
But some of these protests might have only one source referencing them and could probably be concatenated into a single section of "Other colleges", when this settles down (whenever that happens).
Some of these schools could probably be their own wikipages at this point too. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 02:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am currently doing a rewrite now. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 02:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Uni of Copenhagen source(s)?
There's only a Fediverse video for yesterday's solidarity protest at the University of Copenhagen. Any proper sources? Boud (talk) 18:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
International-sources
Not sure how merge proposal or page scope will be dealt with; the article has no Outside US section so far but see above. So here are some sources if anyone feels like creating a section and adding them:
-Paris
- https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240425-french-police-break-up-pro-palestinian-university-protest
- https://www.humanite.fr/societe/bande-de-gaza/sciences-po-paris-apres-leur-evacuation-la-veille-par-les-crs-des-etudiants-occupent-un-nouveau-batiment-en-soutien-a-gaza
- https://www.liberation.fr/societe/education/rassemblement-pro-palestinien-des-etudiants-expulses-dun-campus-de-sciences-po-paris-dans-la-nuit-par-la-police-20240425_OZHD2EVAXJHFPJDGPCCP4DBP44/
- https://www.leparisien.fr/societe/manifestations-etudiantes-pour-gaza-nouvelle-mobilisation-a-sciences-po-paris-un-batiment-occupe-25-04-2024-NKYTDGCFUZFGJIRQXGKAJGOIYU.php
-Rome
- https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2024/04/17/sapienza-di-roma-studenti-incatenati-e-in-sciopero-della-fame-dopo-gli-scontri-di-ieri-con-la-polizia-noi-per-la-pace-e-contro-il-genocidio-a-gaza/7516548/
- https://roma.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/24_aprile_17/scontri-nelle-universita-chi-sono-i-leader-dell-ala-dura-cinque-anarchici-storici-e-un-estremista-palestinese-8cffd9c4-ab27-400b-a694-b7d5dcd18xlk.shtml
Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- International section is here to add content to. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 09:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Cheers, I had missed it! -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Done .....But now the page has been moved with a title restricted to 'US',,,,can we address this? @CommunityNotesContributor and Makeandtoss:-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC) (As for overcite, feel free to remove the sources you think redundant)
- I think this is fine and was the right move by @Makeandtoss. It was premature to rename the article (without consensus) when the topic is predominantly US universities. Just because there has been a few international protests this doesn't warrant a name change, mainly because these international protests are not notable enough to have their own article. Pinging @ElijahPepe who made the original move. [1] CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 11:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I am also unaware of any major student protests taking place outside of US that has garnered significant coverage. Either way, the US protests deserves a standalone article per the WP:Notability guideline. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- No one is arguing the U.S. protests do not deserve an article, but rather that this is a worldwide phenomenon. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think at some point we should extend it to all protest once we have enough good coverage, but I’m not sure if that point has been reached. FortunateSons (talk) 12:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Agree I do not yet see significant coverage (for notability) of protests outside the US to have it's own article as it were. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 12:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- No one is arguing the U.S. protests do not deserve an article, but rather that this is a worldwide phenomenon. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I am also unaware of any major student protests taking place outside of US that has garnered significant coverage. Either way, the US protests deserves a standalone article per the WP:Notability guideline. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 26 April 2024
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April 2024 Israel–Hamas war protests on university campuses in the United States → ? – Opening this move request to gauge consensus on a better title. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support changing the title, specifically by merging the article into Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 22:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is the wrong place to suggest a merge. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Global University movement for Palestine
- Global University protests for Palestine
- There are protest reported from all over the world’s univercities, not only from US!
- sources to back my claim:
- https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/4/26/are-us-campus-protests-against-israels-war-on-gaza-going-global
- Australia, UK, France, Italy. Grabup (talk) 04:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is the wrong place to suggest a merge. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support 2024 US college anti-war protests for conciseness. Maybe replace "anti-war" with "anti-Israel" or "Israel–Hamas war" here. The current title is definitely too long. NasssaNser 06:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- That's a good alternative in terms of concision if there's support for "anti-war" and "date + protests". Iskandar323 (talk) 06:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support 2024 Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States as per prominent RS referencing (assuming this leads into May). RS are not calling these "Israel–Hamas war protests" as they are overwhelmingly pro-Palestinian. The pro-Israel protests referenced in the article are considered counter-protests and only notable within the context of the the pro-Palestinian protests. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 12:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support, but remove 'in the United States'. While most of these have been in America, there are a significant amount of global protests as well. Personisinsterest (talk) 20:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses without "in the United States" – the protests are pretty commonly referred to as pro-Palestinian in the sources, as noted. It's also misrepresentive and false balance to present the protests as being generically about the war, when the specific phenomenon in question is overwhelmingly pro-Palestinian protests, with whatever counter-protests only representing a minor and reactive phenomenon by comparison. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:29, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - The proposer did not state any reasons for the proposal. Kire1975 (talk) 21:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Can't you think of some yourself? That it's lengthy, crap and imprecise all seem like prominent examples. Iskandar323 (talk) 21:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment — The correct title would be 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses, not 2024 Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses. I generally support this title, but the 2024 is ambiguous. A proper title should be ideally decided before May 1. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Ambiguous how? What other 2024 pro-Palestine protests on university campuses could it be confused with? If anything, all 2024 (pre-April) protests should be included as a background to avoid confusion. I otherwise agree that at this point, with several international protests, your suggestion seems the best and most supported so far. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 13:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses under the WP:CRITERIA of recognizability, naturalness and conciseness. While most of the protests are at US universities, several are in other parts of the world. While the protests do object to the war and are opposed to the genocide, describing them as pro-Palestinian is common in the sources. Boud (talk) 01:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support renaming the title, Oppose attempts to merge this with larger scale pages because this has quickly evolved past a few college protests Irisoptical (talk) 01:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support renaming: my suggestion is Pro-Palestinian encampment protests on university campuses. Even though some protests mentioned in the article aren't encampments, the encampment aspect is without a doubt the defining aspect of the movement and should be in the title. As a bonus, using "encampment" instead of just "protests" avoids having to use the year to disambiguate IMO. WikiFouf (talk) 20:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support renaming to 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses (possibly with the addition of 'encampment'.) Astronomyfortwo (talk) 21:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses per Boud and Iskandar323. There are additional notable protest encampments popping up now in Canada and the UK; I don't see any reason to limit the article title to only the United States. FlipandFlopped ツ 00:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Looks like WP:SNOW for 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses. Recommending a WP:BOLDMOVE here. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 00:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Would Support Astronomyfortwo and FlipandFlopped's proposals as well as all similar ones above. Would also note that based on recent posts from national and international organizers, 2024 Student Intifada should be considered - the other titles are probably better, but had to throw it out there. Amyipdev (talk) 06:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses. The protests have moved beyond the United States. The word "encampment", specifically the title Gaza Solidarity Encampment, is relatively common already but sometimes means just Columbia University. MarkiPoli (talk) 08:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support The People's University for Palestine (College protests) (also referred as " The People's University for Gaza", "The Popular University for Palestine" or "The Popular University for Gaza"). Many college encampments are referred as "The People's University for Palestine" or other variations as it encapsulates both the protest aspect but also the teach-ins that are carried out, religious events, dances, artworks, improvised libraries... One of the goals of these protests is to create autonomous and independent spaces inside the premises of the Universities where pro-Palestinian discourse can be carried out. Stanford: [2][3] Columbia: [4] Cornell: [5][6] here are some links, I can provide more. Hstoops (talk) 20:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses User:Sawerchessread (talk) 00:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose United States shouldn't be mentioned in the title, given these protests aren't just local, but are happening in several countries. Nfitz (talk) 22:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Barnard College and Rutgers University
Alongside Columbia University, Barnard is taking action to suspend those involved with the encampments. Additionally, there have been encampments occurring at Rutgers University in New Jersey.
These are possibly worth noting in the article 69.74.33.158 (talk) 17:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Add Smith College
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- Add Smith College in Northampton MA to the list
- The protest there has been going on longer than most of the more publicized ones
- https://theshoestring.org/2024/04/10/shut-down-this-genocide-inside-the-smith-college-sit-in/
Rmacleod18 (talk) 19:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- That's from April 10th, before the Columbia encampment started this. The encampment had already been boing on for two weeks so it started in March. It does raise a good question about the title of this article. Is this page just for the Gaza protests that are in solidarity with the Columbia encampment that started on April 17th? or is it for anything that happened in April? If it's for the former, then this Smith College story should go to Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States. What's the consensus? Kire1975 (talk) 01:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- The title of the article doesn’t mention Columbia. This is an on campus protest against the war that happened in April 2024. Just because Columbia was the first school to make headlines doesn’t mean we should ignore whatever campus protests happened before. Maybe there should be a section of other related protests 2601:193:8380:1630:7107:BA7B:B602:D8C2 (talk) 12:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- It appears the encampment part ended on April 9 or 10, but since then there has been a non-encampment protest on April 21, after April 18. (source) I would say that qualifies Smith to be mentioned in the article (possibly with the earlier encampment briefly mentioned). TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 02:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Goodman, Amy. "Meet USC Valedictorian Asna Tabassum: School Cancels Commencement Speech by Pro-Palestinian Student". Democracy Now. Retrieved 23 April 2024.
New encampment at Sonoma State University in California
Hi, could someone with edit access please add Sonoma State University in Rohnert Park, CA? SSU SJP set it up yesterday, April 26, and we're trying to get the word out! So far the campus police have left it alone. https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2024/04/26/18865416.php AlynWolves (talk) 17:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Are there any reports on this aside from the link you provided? This appears to be a self-published source, which are generally discouraged from being cited. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 19:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Found a source and added it. Thanks for the heads up Alyn. Kire1975 (talk) 01:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, indymedia was the only source at the time of writing but they got an actual reporter there today. 107.209.18.166 (talk) 05:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Found a source and added it. Thanks for the heads up Alyn. Kire1975 (talk) 01:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Edit Request - UT Austin
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I would like to request that the following material and sources, or some variation of it, be incorporated into the "In Texas" subsection, specifically the paragraph discussing the protests at UT Austin. This can replace some outdated information, such as that discussing the arrests on campus:
On April 24th 2024 non-violent protests were planned on the University of Texas at Austin campus by the Palestine Solidarity Committee, a registered student organization at the university. The protests drew a large crowd, which was later dispersed by Austin Police Department officers and Texas Department of Public Safety troopers, who were there as the request of the university and Governor Greg Abbott, who claimed the protests were anti-Semitic and unauthorized.[1] 57 individuals were arrested for criminal trespassing, all of whom were later released without charge by mid-day April 26th.[2] The law enforcement presence and subsequent arrests at the protests have since drawn criticism from both students and professors at the university.[3][4]
Durchbruchmüller (talk) 01:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC) Durchbruchmüller (talk) 01:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like an overlap with paragraph 3 of the Texas section. You may want to consider
... specify[ing] what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it
, i.e. show the current version of paragraph 3 and what you propose replacing it by. If you want to remove other people's words/references, then it will either need to be obvious why your proposed text is better, or else you will need to explain why you have proposed the changes. Boud (talk) 18:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)- The Texas subsection was much, much smaller when I originally suggested this edit. But even looking at it just now, there is sourced information in my suggestion that more up to date than some of the article text. Specifically the fact that criminal charges were dropped against all 57 individuals arrested at the UT Austin campus. Durchbruchmüller 20:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- At this moment, outside our dorm windows, UT is experiencing another mass protest today where students are even camping out on the main tower lawn. Could this be added to the page? UnrealJett (talk) 21:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- The Texas subsection was much, much smaller when I originally suggested this edit. But even looking at it just now, there is sourced information in my suggestion that more up to date than some of the article text. Specifically the fact that criminal charges were dropped against all 57 individuals arrested at the UT Austin campus. Durchbruchmüller 20:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Rachel Treisman, Ayana Archie (25 April 2024). "Mass arrests roil college campuses amid pro-Palestinian protests". NPR. Retrieved 28 April 2024.
- ^ Seipp, Skye (26 April 2024). "Charges dropped against all 57 arrested in connection to UT-Austin pro-Palestinian protest". Austin American-Statesman. Retrieved 28 April 2024.
- ^ Simpson, Stephen (26 April 2024). "Campuses across Texas had pro-Palestinian demonstrations. Why did only UT-Austin crack down?". The Texas Tribune. Retrieved 28 April 2024.
- ^ Lily Kepner, Skye Seipp, Ella McCarthy, Serena Lin (24 April 2024). "UT-Austin students hold pro-Palestinian protest; at least 50 arrested". Austin American-Statesman. Retrieved 28 April 2024.
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Edit request - Dickinson College
Students at Dickinson College began a Solidarity protest on the night of 4/25
https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2024/04/dickinson-students-stage-sit-in-to-show-solidarity-with-arrested-palestine-protesters.html Fernmyne (talk) 05:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States article
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
As an FYI, due to a notable fork issue (as well as other issues), I was planning to WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT the Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States to this article. Please respond on the talk page if you disagree and it can go to AfD if necessary. This is merely a courtesy notification that can be ignored. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Edit request: Students 4 Gaza - A Global Map of Encampments and Demands List of Participating Universities (students4gaza.directory) / Internationalize the Article because the Article is too U.S.-Centric
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The website “Students 4 Gaza - A Global Map of Encampments and Demands” ( https://students4gaza.directory/ ) has more participating colleges and universities listed on the website including cited sources used to make the determination. Many such participating institutions in the United States and around the world have yet to be added to the list and map here on Wikipedia. So I request that you please add the missing institution, including the ones outside the United States to the list on Wikipedia.
As of 5:02 AM Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on Monday, April 29, 2024, the participating institutions are as follows (for new updates check original source):
American University Joined DMV SJP encampment at George Washington University
Arizona State University Demands
Barnard College Demands at the co-organized Columbia/Barnard encampment
Berkeley College of Music Joined Northeastern University Encampment
Boston University Joined Northeastern University Encampment
Brown University Demands
Bryn Mawr College Demands
California State Polytechnic University, Humboldt Demands
City College of New York Demands
Claremont Colleges Demands
Columbia University Demands at the co-organized Columbia/Barnard encampment
Community College of Denver Demands at Auraria Gaza Solidarity Encampment
Concordia University Joined McGill encampment
Cornell University Demands
Dickinson College Demands
Drexel University Joined UPenn encampment
Duke University Demands at Triangle Gaza Solidarity Encampment
Emerson College Demands
Emory University Demands
Fashion Institute of Technology Demands
Gallaudet University Joined DMV SJP encampment at George Washington University
George Mason University Joined DMV SJP encampment at George Washington University
George Washington University Demands
Georgetown University Demands | Joined DMV encampment at George Washington University
Hamline University Demands
Harvard University Demands
Haverford College Documentation, will join Bryn Mawr College encampment on 4/28
Indiana University Bloomington Demands
Indiana University Indianapolis Demands
İstanbul Teknik Üniversitesi Documentation
Massachusetts Institute of Technology Demands
McGill University Documentation
Metropolitan State University of Denver Demands at Auraria Gaza Solidarity Encampment
Michigan State University Demands
Middlebury College Demands
New York University - Main Campus Demands
North Carolina State University Demands at Triangle Gaza Solidarity Encampment
Northeastern University Demands
Northwestern University Demands
NYU Berlin (New York University - Berlin Campus) Documentation
NYU Buenos Aires (New York University - Buenos Aires Campus) Documentation
Ohio State University Demands
Portland State University Documentation
Princeton University Demands
Purdue University Demands
Rice University Demands
Sciences Po Paris Coverage
Sonoma State University Demands
Stanford University Documentation
Swarthmore College Demands
Temple University Joined UPenn encampment
The New School Demands
Tufts University Demands
University of Alberta Documentation
University of California, Los Angeles Demands
University of California, Santa Barbara Demands
University of California, Berkeley Demands
University of Colorado -Denver Demands at Auraria Gaza Solidarity Encampment
University of Connecticut Demands
University of Florida Demands
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign Demands
University of Mary Washington Demands
University of Maryland, College Park Joined DMV SJP encampment at George Washington University
University of Maryland, Baltimore County Joined DMV SJP encampment at George Washington University
University of Melbourne Demands
University of Michigan Demands
University of Minnesota Demands
University of New Mexico Demands
University of North Carolina at Charlotte Demands
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Demands
University of Notre Dame Demands
University of Pennsylvania Demands
University of Pittsburgh Demands
University of Quebec in Montreal Joined McGill encampment
University of Rochester Demands
University of Southern California Demands
University of Sydney Demands
University of Texas at Austin Documentation
University of Tokyo Documentation
University of Vermont Demands
Vanderbilt University Demands
Virginia Tech Demands
Warwick University Demands
Washington University in St. Louis Demands
Wesleyan University Demands
Yale University Demands
Best regards,
~~ InfoWiki01 (talk) 05:04, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not done as this website (while interesting) isn't a reliable source. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 15:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done Went through the list and found reliable sources for most of it. मल्ल (talk) 22:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Edit request: UVM Encampment Details (Liberation Seder)
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In the Vermont section: I would like an addition made in reference to the University of Vermont. On April 28, UVM held a Liberation Seder using a haggadah put together by the Chittenden County chapter of Jewish Voices for Peace. Please cite this VT Digger article and this WCAX article hosted at MSN (Web Archive form pending). Mossgazer (talk) 05:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Edit request - Haverford College
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pro-palestinian-protest-camps-show-up-on-local-campuses-but-calmly/ar-AA1nL2nC Fernmyne (talk) 18:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
The "April 2024 Israel-Hamas War Protests" Map
Hey all,
With regards to this map, I think we should somehow indicate for the readers what the difference is between the red icons, blue icons, and the green icons (what do the differing colour labels even mean)? At present, the labels are not explained even when you click on or enlarge the map.
In addition, I noticed that we mention encampments at the University of British Columbia, Washington State University, Whitman College, and Evergreen State College in the main body of the article, but for some reason there are not any flags within Washington State nor British Columbia indicated on the "April 2024 Israel–Hamas war protests on university campuses map".
I'm not familiar with how the data is inputted and populated into these maps. Could someone either share how to edit the map with me, or alternatively, add it themselves? Cheers, FlipandFlopped ツ 21:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, I've been doing most of the editing on the map. This map's data is stored on Wikimedia Commons here, while the display is on Wikipedia. The green represents colleges with encampments (aside from Columbia) and the blue represents colleges that had other protests. I had written that in Wikimedia Commons, but didn't realize it didn't display that on Wikipedia. I just edited the template on Wikipedia and so it should display the key now.
- As for the colleges that don't appear on the map, I think that just has to do with a delay in the map display. I noticed a few times that I would add an item to the map, but it wouldn't display that point unless the map was enlarged. If you click the map to enlarge it, it should display the up-to-date info.
- Hope this helps! TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 21:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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