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People generally don't use refs for diffs. It's more work—in adding the ref, adding the Reflist talk, and even in viewing the diff. There is no upside. I have no way of knowing whether you and MarnetteD missed my refactoring (either in the page history or in its effect in the thread), or saw it and disagreed with it. Therefore I'm not going to do it again. But I disagree with the Reflist talk "fix" to the problem. It makes far more sense to convert the refs to bare URLs and forget the Reflist talk. &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#AAA;">&#9742;</span>]] 22:12, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
People generally don't use refs for diffs. It's more work—in adding the ref, adding the Reflist talk, and even in viewing the diff. There is no upside. I have no way of knowing whether you and MarnetteD missed my refactoring (either in the page history or in its effect in the thread), or saw it and disagreed with it. Therefore I'm not going to do it again. But I disagree with the Reflist talk "fix" to the problem. It makes far more sense to convert the refs to bare URLs and forget the Reflist talk. &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#AAA;">&#9742;</span>]] 22:12, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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Joes Jackson age is 87 his stoke was on his 87th birthday according to the news. He was born in 1928 just thought I'd explain that

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Bowers etc

Can I ask why you think the Bowers stuff should be included in the Tracy and Hepburn articles? It really doesn't deserve a mention. The Hepburn lesbian stuff has been around long enough to warrant a quick mention of it in her article, which I included, but it doesn't need detail (since the evidence for it is so slim). The Tracy rumours come solely from Bowers, though, and the fact that James Curtis (who did an incredible amount of detail for his biography) felt that there was no need to cover it in his book means the WP article shouldn't either. He only mentions Bowers, and the possibility of ST being bisexual, in the "Author's note" section at the end - and that is purely to dismiss his claims. For an example of how ridiculous Bowers is, William Mann interviewed him for his biography on Hepburn back in 2007. At this time, Bowers told Mann that Tracy was gay but said nothing about Kate. Then a few years later and he's claiming that he hooked KH up with 150 women. If this was true, surely he would have told Mann, and Mann would include it in the book (since he argues that KH was probably gay)? Obvious proof that Bowers is a liar. It's such a trashy book, and we're meant to use good quality sources. If the same sort of lame rumours, from the same sort of source, were included in a BLP (say, the ones about Hugh Jackman) they'd be removed instantly. I think the same standards should apply for dead people. --Loeba (talk) 19:36, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Completely agree with Loebs. What you added is utter nonsense, tabloid fodder. Has no place in an encyclopedia article. Sensationalist writers do it all the time, Liz Taylor sucking the cocks of studio executives in the back of limos, threesomes with presidents, just doesn't belong on wikipedia. I dare say Tracy did a lot of things when drunk, and I'm sure a lot of straight men have done some dubious things when drunk. These people are only out to make a buck Holanthony.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Holanthony: I was flexible regarding Tracy, but I'm strongly against including any mention of Bowers on Kate's page. It's so obviously a lie, for the reason I gave above, that it would be embarrassing to mention it. I've also mentioned something else in my edit summary: Bowers claimed that he met Hepburn in 1949, and that most of the women he set her up with was during the 1950s. It's VERY unlikely he could have linked her with 150 women in that time because she spent much of the 1950s working abroad or travelling; when she was back in the US, she was at her home in New York (while Bowers was in LA). And how is it that not one of these 150 women has ever came forward? I am 100% sure, based on my extensive research of Hepburn, that it's a lie. If solid evidence of an affair with a woman materialises then I'd be in favour of including it - I don't care if she was bisexual - but at this point there's nothing and no reason for thinking she was. --Loeba (talk) 20:07, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just remembered that most of the stuff in your recent revision was about "Barbara". Sorry but I'm kind of amazed you can fall for this. Even if Bowers did know Kate in the 50s - which I doubt he ever did but anyway - how would he know that they stayed in touch for 40 years? Let alone the inheritance claim - how would he know that? He'd only know that if he was still a good friend of this Barbara, and if she was a good friend he wouldn't be outing her private relationship to the world. --Loeba (talk) 21:25, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. Three or four people have already reverted you. Just take the hint.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:06, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I feel like giving you an additional reason for why I reverted your recent edit. Apart from Wikipedia:Too much detail regarding episode 2, I feel like the season 2 section would only be warranted if the material was stronger than "it’s not in the works, but we have started the very early stages of conception". And I'm not even sure there should be one there. It would have its own article once the material is strong enough, like The Walking Dead: Season Two. I hope you understand, since I'm aiming for the article to reach good article quality. Glitchygirl (talk) 17:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I only changed the visual style and the word claim to per (read WP:CLAIM). I would ask you to refrain from making unfounded accusations such as accusing me of vandalism. If you check my edit history you will find I have been a 4-year neutral veteran editor of this war. EkoGraf (talk) 05:52, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It was a typo. EkoGraf (talk) 07:00, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Its cool, apology accepted. :) EkoGraf (talk) 14:06, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Please stop inserting this information about her purported adoptive father and purported name. Under WP:BRD, it's ok to insert contentious material, but not to re-insert it after it's been reverted. The proper next step is to open a thread on the talk page and attempt to obtain consensus for re-inserting the info.

I've asked BLP-savvy editors on the BLP Notice board to review our recent edits. If you start the talk page thread, I'm hopeful that they'll participate and give one of us a reality-check, here.. David in DC (talk) 17:32, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:David in DC Well, perhaps you can wait until I've finished writing BEFORE you revert changes? You can't jump the gun and cry foul while editing is still in progress. At least wait an hour so so until it is fair to assume the editor is no longer working on the article. I've now inserted more reliable sources.Holanthony (talk) 17:38, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Once I revert, you don't add it again. You go to the talk page. Please review WP:BRD, revert yourself and open a thread on the JD'N talk page. David in DC (talk) 17:45, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:David in DC You must also wait for the edit to be concluded, which you didn't in this case, and therefore it is a case of Wikipedia:Disruptive editing. You've obviously also missed the WP:3RR.Holanthony (talk) 17:53, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

July 2016

Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Randy Spears. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Do not add the disputed content again without talk page consensus. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Use of refs for diffs at ANI

I'm cross-posting this to you and MarnetteD.

refs added, Reflist talk added, refs changed to bare URLs, Reflist talk removed, another ref added, another ref added, Reflist talk re-added. And so on.

People generally don't use refs for diffs. It's more work—in adding the ref, adding the Reflist talk, and even in viewing the diff. There is no upside. I have no way of knowing whether you and MarnetteD missed my refactoring (either in the page history or in its effect in the thread), or saw it and disagreed with it. Therefore I'm not going to do it again. But I disagree with the Reflist talk "fix" to the problem. It makes far more sense to convert the refs to bare URLs and forget the Reflist talk. ―Mandruss  22:12, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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