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==January 18==
*Anglo-Indian relations threatened after allegedly racist treatment of '''[[Shilpa Shetty]]''' on UK Big Brother TV show cause angry street protests in India and burning effigies. Article substantially updated by myself. [[User:Ekantik|Ekantik]] <sup>[[User talk:Ekantik|talk]]</sup> 05:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


==January 17==
==January 17==

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January 18

  • Anglo-Indian relations threatened after allegedly racist treatment of Shilpa Shetty on UK Big Brother TV show cause angry street protests in India and burning effigies. Article substantially updated by myself. Ekantik talk 05:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 17

File:Doomsday-clock.jpg
Image wouldn't be postable per copyright. The Tom 22:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 16

For something to be add to in the news there has to be an article which has been substantially modified and as far as I can see none of the articles has. So I suggest that you update the article about the new president or wait for someone else to do it. Jeltz talk 21:45, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The article clearly is updated. --a 05:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
This seems to hit all the criteria now. --Monotonehell 06:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Added. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 15

Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti
Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti

January 12

  • Sealand, a former World War II fort in the North Sea off England, which was settled in 1967 and declared a state with its own self-proclaimed royal family, is up for sale. --Camptown 21:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • There haven't been too many significant updates to Sealand, and I don't think this is internationally significant. -- tariqabjotu 21:47, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree with Tariq... doesn't seem either of international interest or importance. Mikker (...) 02:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • I think you both are wrong. Sealand is often refered to in international law as an interesting example of micronations. And it is not every day a nation is up for sale. --Camptown 11:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • I think they are both right: There haven't been too many significant updates to Sealand. Lots of tweaking, but not much additions. And the sale actually began on Jan08, not Jan12. --64.229.5.164 15:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • It's a curiosity, certainly, but I repeat: it is, as a sheer matter of fact, not of international interest. (i.e. this isn't being widely reported throughout the world). Mikker (...) 19:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • Well, it was on page 1 of Financial Times. But, of course, that's just another tabloid newspaper... And, of course, it's only a sheer matter of fact, not of international interest such as David Beckham's transfer to an American soccer club... --Camptown 19:58, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • It's been reported on Dutch main news, but just as an interesting 20 second quirky. I suspect it's about the same, if not worse, in other countries. Aecis No running, shouting or piddling in the shallow end 19:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
            • Hmmm... there are 146 articles on Google news — more than one might perhaps expect, less than what is necessary for ITN. Mikker (...) 05:03, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hundreds of thousands of pieces of real estate are more notable than Sealand. The consensus is basically that they aren't a country. Savidan 00:41, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • US raids Iran Consulate General, Russia says it is unacceptable. -nima baghaei 17:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • An explosion in the United States embassy in Athens labeled terrorism by Greece police.Dark jedi requiem 06:45, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I would say yes at first, but this has not gotten any play on the 24-hours news networks so it'll be interesting to see if American morning shows pick up and play up this story and if Bush responds to the "attack" formally. The GOP (Bush's party) loves to laud Bush because since 9/11 there hasn't been another attack on the United States, and they criticize Clinton for having repeated attacks, including the USS Cole bombing and the 1998 African Embassy bombings. So in short, I would say to wait and gauge the media outlets' response firstbefore this is declared a headlinee. Stephen 08:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • I've seen it played various times on CNN and MSNBC. I doubt it will truely come to light on say... FOX News, but the majors have it in rotation as important. Dark jedi requiem 17:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • The article is too short to make it to ITN. -- tariqabjotu 21:47, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 11

  • MainPage looks fine on my screen now. IMO, when the main wreckage is found, this should get on ITN and displace an old item as soon as the article is updated. --PFHLai 01:19, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • English soccer player David Beckham signs with Major League Soccer franchise the Los Angeles Galaxy, possibly the largest contract for a sports player of all time.
    • Big news, defs bigger than Ashes and such what. We had youtube, why not this?--HamedogTalk|@ 22:55, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • This has been absolutely gigantic news. Aside from the World Cup, I can't ever remember the lead story on the front page of ESPN.com (in English-speaking North America, that is) relating to soccer. Every news program has been talking about this. I personally think that when one of the biggest celebrities in the world makes such a drastic move (going to America? To play soccer?) and gets the largest contract ever for an athlete, it's probably- not definitely, but probably- ITN worthy. -- Kicking222 02:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I actually saw this on the local news so I guess it's of international importance. --Howard the Duck 12:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 10

Mentioned in the item on the Kazakhstan political shakeup of 2007. --PFHLai 21:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The pound is re-established as the currency in Sudan, replacing the dinar. [Could use a little more updating before this goes on ITN.] --PFHLai 14:43, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not posted -- too little new materials. --PFHLai 21:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A two-sentence update seems too little. And, are there any better references ? and external newslinks at Portal: Current events ? A concise headline containing a wikilink to the updated article is needed, too. --PFHLai 14:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- Suggested to move here from Template_talk:Did_you_know#January_9 Ekantik talk 14:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This doesn't seem to qualify for ITN. She's not the only contestant, the show started a long time ago, etc. Aecis No running, shouting or piddling in the shallow end 16:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not even a little bit. How would this qualify for ITN status? Is this a nation electing its next president or a politician dying or an 8.0 earthquake? No. It's an actress competing on a reality show. -- Kicking222 20:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Was this last year's news ? Probably too late for ITN now. Is this on Portal: Current events yet ? (a requirement) I can't find it. --PFHLai 14:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, he was convicted on Wednesday (January 10). It's now on Portal:Current events. /Slarre 16:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll pass. The new materials about the sentencing consist of three sentences and this seems too little for ITN when we have bigger news items with longer articles to choose from. --PFHLai 21:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 9

  • Apple confirms a move into telecommunications, unveiling it's long-awaited iPhone --Steve (Slf67) talk 22:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • No advertising on Wikipedia's front page, please. --64.229.229.83 03:15, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Objective information about a product does not constitute an advertisement. --Nelson Ricardo 13:26, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Long awaited? Nil Einne 11:51, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Rumors of the release of this product have been circulating for some time. Given thow the iPod revolutionized portable music, many are hope to see Apple do the same for mobile communications. --Nelson Ricardo 13:26, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll pass, as putting this on MainPage may appear as a free ad for Apple Inc., even for objective information. --PFHLai 14:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

-nima baghaei 17:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have now updated the links, can we post it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganga_in_Hinduism#Current_Events -nima baghaei 18:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The update is now gone. Contributors at Ganga in Hinduism and Ganges River need to decide on the contents of these pages before this item is considered for ITN. --PFHLai 14:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

--TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Map of the January 9, 2007 U.S. airstrikes
please why don't you put Battle of Ras Kamboni linked with "strike". We also have a PD picture for this event. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 17:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just did something like that. :-) --PFHLai 17:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry the map is not useful at 100px. --PFHLai 17:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Is there anyway way to make it clear it's just a claim by the US that they are Al-Qaeda suspects? The actual page does it pretty well. But "attacks alleged/claimed suspected al-Qaeda operatives" doesn't flow well Nil Einne 11:51, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 8

Nishkid64 05:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • It may be college sports, but it's a nationally televised game that's watched by millions. It's also unique because the Gators were heavy underdogs, but they pulled off a dominant win. Nishkid64 05:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Millions of Americans? --Howard the Duck 08:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Actually I watched it in Vienna. -newkai t-c 10:33, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • Millions of Americans in Vienna? Oh wait, I've watched this too by noontime, but does that (or Americans watching in Vienna or Mogadishu) make it international? --Howard the Duck 14:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I support this. It should be of only a very limited run, but it could really be mentioned today. It is a sport watched by millions. -newkai t-c 07:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • No matter how much Ohio State was going to massacre Florida prior to the game, a non-professional sports competition is simply not ever Main Page material. Thethinredline 14:02, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, only the top level competition of a sport gets on ITN. (For American football, that's the SuperBowl.) Otherwise, we'll need something really significant, like breaking a high profile record. Just an unexpected upset in a college bowl game is probably not enough. --PFHLai 17:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well Florida now is the first school ever to simultaneously hold the national title in football and basketball... I think that qualifies as "breaking a high profile record". This discussion is absurd, as college football championship IS top level competition. The test cricket thing is on there, and I suspect the BCS game has more viewers. Not including this historic BCS victory definitely shows some bias I think. --cokane
    • More viewers? I doubt it very much. The Ashes is followed by most cricket fans and cricket is in turn followed religiously in several parts of the world (especially the sub-continent). Please keep in mind there are 1.1 billion Indians, 165 million Pakistanis, 150 million Bangladeshis, and a couple of hundred million other people from cricket-loving nations. Then there are 300 million Americans and a few million Canadians. You might argue that, because many cricket fans are in developing nations with comparatively less extensive television penetration, the football thing is more notable. But remember, we're concerned here about global interest - people could still be interested in the story without having actually watched it. Mikker (...) 03:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • This is foolish logic. Why are the qualifications "global" interest? This is an english language wikipedia. If something is followed heavily in India or Pakistan, I think the proper place for it being newsworthy is on wikipedia pages where Indians and Pakistanis would read it. I want to reject two arbitrary qualifications that seem to have been established for ITN items. They are both illogical. The first is that the sports game must have "international" interest. This is an absurd qualification. Another commenter already noted this would qualify the NFL Europe championship but disqualify the Superbowl, a ridiculous consequence. Furthermore it creates a bias towards sporting events involving or that are popular in countries of lower populations. Second criteria is the "global" interest. en.wikipedia.org is not a website with a global audience. It is a website with an English speaking audience. If sports events are to be covered at all they need to be ranked by really only one criteria. How popular is the event in the English speaking world? This criteria can be objectively measured too. All other criteria are moot. --cokane 10 January 2007
      • Addendum: Consider this, the day after the BCS game, virtually every newspaper and news show in America will run the game as its headline. So basically for almost 300 million English speakers, this will be the top headline they see, whether they are interested or not. And the en.wiki's ITN editors don't even deem it worthy of being a single headline for even a single day. And this isn't bias? --cokane
        • Ummm... you ARE aware that millions of Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis speak English right? (And that all three these nations used to be part of the British empire?) In fact, more Indians than Americans speak English. (If you make a helpline phone call in the States, you're more than likely speaking to an Indian with a disguised accent). And that an event be of "international" interest is the actual criterion, please read WP:ITNMP. Maybe this should change, but until you create a consensus there, we have to stick to those criteria here. Mikker (...) 20:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • Umm... is it their first language? Are people from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh looking at en.wikipedia first? Who is looking at en.wikipedia? This would be good data to look at for this argument. I get a sense that the majority of en.wikipedia viewers live in the United States. Other people speaking English as their second language is really a foolish criterion for ranking content. Plenty of people in Latin America or Japan speak english. The english speakers in Latin America likely outnumber the ones in the United States. Are these people looking at en.wikipedia? And I recognize that the "international" qualification has been established as criteria. I already addressed that--and pointed out that it was completely arbitrary. The ITN item has only a select list of items to choose for placing on the front page. I will state my criteria a little better: Those items should be ranked by how important they are to en.wikipedia users. Prove to me that Indians, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and others are hitting en.wikipedia at a higher rate than Americans and your case will be made. If they are not, and Americans are actually hitting it at a higher rate, than putting the cricket match while not putting up the BCS game is a clear indication of bias. And these arbitrary qualifications of "global" and "international" only perpetuate a bias that is ridiculous and you have to be blind not to see. --cokane 10 January 2007
            • Some indicative statistics aren't too difficult to find. Wikipedia is the 15th most popular website in India, the 13th most popular in Pakistan and also the 13th most popular in Bangladesh. These figures cover all language editions of Wikipedia, but if you look at the sizes of the relevant wikipedias at [m:List_of_Wikipedias], you'll see that the Hindi and Urdu language edition have less than 5,000 articles each, and the Bengali edition has almost 13,000. If the majority of viewers from those countries are going to their native language editions, I would expect them to have grown rather more quickly. I'd also expect them to show up in the list "Where do people go on wikipedia.org", but they don't. In the US, Wikipedia is the 8th most popular website, but at least some of the hits will go to the Spanish Wikipedia. There are very many more languages in the Indian subcontinent, but none of these languages are amongst the biggest Wikipedia editions. Alexa doesn't seem to list the most popular sites in Sri Lanka (another country where cricket is very popular), but again, the Tamil-language Wikipedia is small.-gadfium 04:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
            • To compare the English language speakers in South America or Japan with the English language speakers in South Asia is not fair, because the Japanese have the option of viewing the Japanese Wikipedia, and the South Americans the Spanish or Portuguese editions.-gadfium 04:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I support it. Collegiate football is probably the second biggest sport in the US, behind only pro football. Plus, the sheer size of the upset can't be understated. And the ITN has been rather stale this week. I think it should replace the 110th Congress entry. Preston 17:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You may want to take this up at Template talk:In the news, where people are already complaining (again! ...sigh... ) that American football (along with cricket) lacks international interests to warrant an appearance on ITN for the SuperBowl. Good Luck. --PFHLai 17:56, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I support it; the Ashes Series Made the ITN; and the BCS Championship is broadcast in over 150 countries; ratings are not out yet, but total viewership may rival the Ashes Series Contrib123456 19:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Further commenting should be posted at T:ITNT#BCS_Championship_Bowl. Thank you. Nishkid64 22:59, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 7

  • Added, but reworded it to remove day of the week and to shorten blurb. -- tariqabjotu 05:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti and Awad al Bandar are expected to be executed in Iraq this week. Iff they are indeed executed, would this be notable enough for ITN or not? A point can be made for their inclusion, since both the case in which they were sentenced to death and the event for which they have been sentenced are highly notable. Any thoughts on this? Aecis No running, shouting or piddling in the shallow end 01:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's the same trial as the Trial of Saddam Hussein, isn't it ? If we don't have much new wikicontents to feature, I'd rather not re-post the same links on ITN already there with Saddam's execution just 2 weeks earlier. The "five of clubs" is not a high card, anyway. --PFHLai 07:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC) If we actually have new stuffs to feature on MainPage by the time they get executed, then this is not too bad an item for ITN. --PFHLai 00:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 6

January 5

The Alexander Litvinenko poisoning article doesn't seem to have been adequately updated to qualify for ITN yet. --PFHLai 20:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 4

  • Australian cricketers, Glenn McGrath, Shane Warne and Justin Langer, retire from test cricket following a 5-0 Ashes victory over England.
    • Very big news in cricket. Should go up considering the sports popularity and the fact we had Michael Schumacher's retirement up on ITN.--HamedogTalk|@ 02:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Schumacher was a 7-times world champion in an individaul sport (the most ever). McGrath and Warne are the best in their respective types of players, and I don't think that the best goalkeeper, eg Gianluigi Buffon, or an attacking player, eg, Ronaldinho in a team sport would get ITN entries for retirement. As for the team ENG-AUS, I doubt a Brazil-Argentina match would get on for football. FWIW India-Pak games generate more interest in cricket alone, and often leads to riots, political bandwagoning and even Senate inquiries for poor performance, etc. Am I sounding like a self-hating cricket fan yet? I think I have disagreed with about 5 Hamedog criket noms in one month - Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Also, Warne has the most wickets for any bowler and McGrath has most wickets for a fast bowler.--HamedogTalk|@ 02:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Surely the retirements of Warne, Langer and McGrath should be here. The last time three players of this ilk (Lillee, Chappell and Marsh) retired, Australia sank to the bottom sunk to the bottom of the world rankings. Maybe there is a chance that this will happen again...........not! Jonesy 22:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • Doesn't three retirements hold ground? Any way Cricket is over looked here IMHO - no Champion's trophy or anything this season.--HamedogTalk|@ 04:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm a massive cricket fan, but I don't think that the retirement of players should be included here. I don't think it really matters much beyond cricket. --Cherry blossom tree 13:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • My two cents: I think this should most certainly go up. Warne is arguably the greatest spinner in history, and McGrath is arguably the greatest fast bowler of all time. Indeed, the 5-0 victory by itself is notable methinks - first time in 86 years is quite massive. I'm South African and, as such, don't particularly enjoy Australia's (test) cricket dominance - yet I got up 2am my time to watch the 5th test especially to see McGrath and Warne for the last time. Sic transit gloria mundi applies I think. Mikker (...) 01:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The retirements have been removed from ITN. Pls see T:ITNT#Cricket. --PFHLai 04:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wesley Autrey, a New York City construction worker, gains national recognition after saving the life of a man who had fallen onto the subway tracks. - It's kind of human interesty, but the story is huge right now and in the news has been slow. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 16:56, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • This is not of international interest, regardless of how well the story has been covered in the press. They're covering this story because it's a feel-good wow story, not because it's of real international relevance. -- tariqabjotu 03:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree with Tariq. The article is now a DYK candidate, and will probably be on MainPage soon, anyway. --PFHLai 20:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

January 1

I know, I know, it's a bit early. Obviously, this SHOULD NOT be posted today. However, I think that the accession of Bulgaria and Romania into the EU is newsworthy. Without further ado, I suggest the following text, to post on the first of January:

Topic-wise, yes, i suppose. But please make sure that the article with the bolded link is well updated. --PFHLai 02:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
File:Si2eur.jpg

In other EU news,

Adam Air Flight 574

  • Adam Air Flight 574 has disapeared over Indonesia, with 96 people on board. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart - Receive My EviLove 16:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • If the article gets larger and more informative, I see no reason not to add it. -- tariqabjotu 16:45, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • I am presently researching it. I will drop by here when article has expanded a little. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart - Receive My EviLove 19:10, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • I will continue to expand the article later, hopefuly later tonight, but for now I believe the article is in a fit enough state for the main page. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart - Receive My EviLove 19:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • Of course there's nothing you can do about it, but perhaps we should wait until the plane is discovered– presumably that will happen relatively soon. BTW, to whoever eventually posts this, there are 102 on board, including crew.--Pharos 22:18, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Wreckage of Adam Air Flight 574, with 102 people on board, spotted in a mountainous region of Sulawesi, Indonesia. [4] (MichaelJLowe 01:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC))[reply]
      • It is time for someone to add it to the main page I think. (MichaelJLowe 02:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC))[reply]
        • I have added it. -- tariqabjotu 02:14, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • Of course now the blurb has information which isn't even in the article... this shouldn't be up until there's an update.--Pharos 02:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
            • I could have seen that revert coming a mile away... after posting, I went to the article and was shocked to see that Wikipedia was actually behind the news. Shocked. -- tariqabjotu 02:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, now that I think about it, I do not endorse this article going to ITN anytime soon. Taking out all the stuff that was just up-to-the-minute reporting (my arch-nemisis), there's really not much left. This article needs some serious work before making a Main Page appearance. -- tariqabjotu 02:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, and I agree with you especially on the "breaking news" aspect– in a developing event, I find it's often best to wait a few hours or even (shock! horror!) sleep on it and see what the newspapers say tomorrow.--Pharos 02:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't totally agree with you. The article was created in response to the event. As long as it was a resonable size and quality and it fulfills the noteability requirements then it should go on ITN. The fact that some of the stuff occured more then a few hours ago doesn't matter if the article was created in response to a recent event. Obviously up to the minute stuff is not suitable, but articles usually cover the events as they occured in some detail. In this specific case, it's quite right to mention how the plane was first reported missing along with other details surrounding early reports and then mention that it was found. When we post the ITN entry, obviously it should be as up to date as possible and in the article so if the plane has been found, this should be reported in the article and ITN Nil Einne 12:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I propose to replace the uninformative image into this one: Image:Adam Air Flight 574.png. — Indon (reply) — 17:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ICU Item

  • Anybody feel like the Islamic Courts Union fleeing Mogadishu is a little outdated? Perhaps a new headline should talk about how the ICU has collapsed and fled its last stronghold in Somalia.Stephen 19:32, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, I've tried an update.--Pharos 22:12, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, Pharos. May I suggest "driven out" instead of "deprive"? Thanks, again. -- 199.71.174.100 22:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm... I don't think they were "driven out" from Kismayo exactly. As I see it, their defeat at Jilib basically forced their hand in abandoning Kismayo. I don't know if some other wording might be clearer.--Pharos 23:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, I actually meant Kismayo as the "last stronghold". I've tried to improve the clarity now. I hope it's better.--Pharos 00:20, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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