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Demographic?

 – — Goszei (talk) 18:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

This section seems to be widely abused and often does not comply with the intended purpose: classify using the standard Japanese categories. For example, Durarara! is classified as Male demographic, but what kind? Shounen? Seinen? Salary-man? Also, in this case, I think such classification is dubious since the story has plenty of elements meant to appeal to females. That is the problem, of course, because without solid sources, trying to categorically say it is aimed at one demographic or another is a matter of personal POV. Where are the reader survey results? The fact of the matter is, the publishing industry is facing financial pressures world-wide. Thus, even traditionally gender-differentiated media in Japan, such as those of male otaku pandering nature, are trying to diversify their appeal. Therefore, why do we wish to categorize based on demographic when we can't say for sure what the demographic is anymore? --Dragon695 (talk) 01:02, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

They are meant for articles on manga that are published in magazines historically known to cater toward certain demographics. That is not to say girls don't read Shōnen Jump, but there are academic literature that look into the industry within specific demographic circles. Durarara!! would be an incorrect usage at it is a light novel, and it should be removed. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 06:24, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Runtime

Why is runtime disabled for TV anime? For long-running series 22min vs 26min is a huge difference. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 23:40, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Because it is extremely trivial when compared to the other fields in the infobox and most TV episodes are no more then their half-hour time slot anyways. The only reason to note a runtime is when the episode lengths are more then a half-hour, and those are extremely rare cases. —Farix (t | c) 00:01, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
A lot of what Wikipedia covers is trivial, that doesn't necessarily mean that it shouldn't be included. Indeed, {{Infobox television}} has a runtime parameter. While I happen to think my favorite anime shows are timeless I don't mean it in that fashion. Just because you think it is useless information does not make it useless. Carolina wren (talk) 21:20, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Proposed removal of ratings

Last year there was a discussion to remove the ratings field from Template:Infobox video game, consensus saying it was unencyclopaedic. I'd argue that the same arguments apply here, and the ratings (classification) field should be removed from the game part of this template. Thoughts? DarkToonLinkHeyaah! 11:29, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Since the animanga boxes basically follow precedent from other templates, including {{infobox book}}, {{infobox video game}}, {{infobox film}} and {{infobox television}}, it makes sense to update it to conform with how {{infobox video game}} handles it.--十八 21:46, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
I haven't done much template editing before so I think it would be best for someone more experienced to make this major-ish change. Thanks, DarkToonLinkHeyaah! 12:51, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
I went ahead and removed the field.--十八 22:02, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Nice work, thank-you very much! DarkToonLinkHeyaah! 00:58, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Renaming the subpages

The component pages of this template (like Template:Infobox animanga/Header) are, under their current titles, considered subpages of the Infobox animanga template, which means that they don't appear in this list of infoboxes, even though they are independent of the Infobox animanga template (which is not transcluded anywhere and serves only as documentation). Would it be possible to rename Template:Infobox animanga/Header to Template:Infobox animanga Header, and similarly move all the other subpages that are called directly in article space?--eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:47, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Discussion for clarification of producer parameter

At Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 02:20, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Release/released for a future release

Can we add a "release date" or "scheduled release" or even just a plain old "release" parameter to cover those anime/manga that has been announced with a future release date? It just bug the heck out of me to see "released = some future date" in the infobox. One should not use past tense for future event! Thanks. 98.203.247.11 (talk) 07:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

No. Imagine how much more work that adds, having to change "to be released" to released parameter, especially considering how bad most anime manga articles are. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 08:42, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Two languages

I used a hack to get a second language in Blade of the Phantom Master, but it would be better if there were a more free-form |native_name= or |name_original= or something. comments? Frietjes (talk) 01:08, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Seems like a sensible idea. Let me know if you need any help. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
From a quick look, it should be using Infobox manhwa. If someone could edit Infobox manhwa to be more like animanga, it would be helpful. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 04:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Wording

I have reverted an attempt to change mentions of anime in this infobox to animation, leaving us with wonderful terms like "animation film" and "animation television series". I suspect this is so that it can be used on Korean animation articles, which is outside of this infobox's scope. In any case, a change like this shouldn't happen without consensus to do so first. —Xezbeth (talk) 09:12, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Licensing ≠ Distribution

Can we add a "distributed by" field to indicate whether a licence is not being exercised in all the territories to which it applies? For example, if an anime distributor has a licence for North America, but is only exercising that licence in the United States? --  Denelson83  01:26, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I think an issue here is that generally there isn't a distinction made between the two. Even if there is, finding reliable sources for it is likely to be difficult. Also "distributed by" is a confusing term as distribution is a term used for the basic moving of goods, IIRC Geneon handled distribution of some titles by other companies that had the licenses and produced the actual releases. Also, announced licenses are not necessarily the full license that company has, especially difficult to know when there are several partnerships between US/EU/AU companies. Take Naruto, published in the UK by Manga Entertainment, but do they own the UK license and simply get the materials from Viz, or do Viz sublicense the series to Manga? SephyTheThird (talk) 04:23, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Simulcasts

Should there be an additional parameter to indicate that a show is being simulcast during its first run? It is the method these days for all the recent anime shows outside Japan, especially for Crunchyroll which announces such simulcasts, but other services such as Hulu and Neon Alley also pick up on this (Netflix not so much as they don't pick up during the first run but sometime later when all episodes are published). And someone must be providing subtitles and translations for the "official" streams? It doesn't fit network_en as the videos are given multiple language options, and also that an English language version is licensed or produced some time later. -AngusWOOF (talk) 16:29, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

This can take the form of "simulcast=yes" if naming specific networks in the infobox is not needed. If simulcasts are just going to be the norm for all shows going forward (all shows after the year that Crunchyroll declared it would try to simulcast stuff) then a note should be added to this infobox doc to not list them and prompt the editor to just describe the details in the article itself. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:10, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm not too sure about what the details should be, but I certainly think that with simulcasts being almost a given, we should have a separate entry. I would make it a historical entry rather than just during the actual time it's on. SephyTheThird (talk) 21:53, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Character Design

Shouldn't there be an additional parameter to indicate character designers for an anime series or film? They are as much as important as those responsible for parts such as music or script. Exukvera (talk) 21:53, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I think it would be a very useful inclusion. The character designer is basically the artist of the show since they are the ones who give the characters the look we end up seeing. This is at least as important as the composer or director. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox animanga and page categorization

I noticed that Poyopoyo Kansatsu Nikki was being placed in the category Category:2015 anime television series, even though it aired in 2012. Looking at the article, I couldn't figure out at first why it was in that category, as it didn't seem to be placed in that category in its wiki-code. Eventually I figured out that the template Template:Infobox animanga/Video was placing it in that category automatically because the start date of the series didn't have a year. Someone had edited out the year, presumably because they thought it would look better for it to say "January 8 – December 30, 2012" rather than "January 8, 2012 – December 30, 2012". I think at the very least this indicates there is a mistake in the implementation of the template, as having a missing year shouldn't make the series be classified into the current year. However, I don't really think it is a good idea to have the infobox be placing pages into visible categories at all (cleanup categories like Category:Anime and manga articles with missing infobox parameters are fine). In my opinion, having the template add categories in the way it currently seems to is confusing and unnecessary. Someone should be able to look at the source code for a page and see where the categories are being assigned and be able to easily edit them. I think ease of editing and ease of understanding the wiki-code is more important that trying to have the infobox categorize pages when people forgot to do so, or whatever the code in the infobox was intended to do. Calathan (talk) 19:03, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

There's a way to display just the month and day: {{dts|2002-05-27|format=md}} This should allow the date to retain its value (mainly in sorting tables) yet allow for ranges. -AngusWOOF (talk) 20:56, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the information on how to do that, but I personally think it looks better the other way in the infobox. Since the start date and end date are on different lines, it looks odd to me when the year is left off of the first date. Calathan (talk) 21:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Well at least it seemed to work, unless the category is assessed and populated by some Bot sometime later, then it needs more experimenting. -AngusWOOF (talk) 21:47, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Composer value add request

Can somebody please add "composer" as a value to this infobox, as well as any missing values from the normal infobox video games? Thanks. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 01:23, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

  • I've gone ahead and added all the personal fields from Videogame Infobox to Infobox animanga/game, since I don't see a reason why it should be missing them. Especially so when a lot of articles have people listed, but didn't show due to the template itself not having the fields. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:45, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
The infobox sub-components are suppose to be slimmed down version of their respective media infobox contain only the most essential fields to prevent template bloat. I have reverted the change because you added 6 new fields, which are not important and are just bloat to the template. —Farix (t | c) 22:28, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Then adding the same 3 from the main anime infobox wouldn't be any different? It's more inconsistent than bloated. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:11, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Since you seem to be the only one who disagrees, I've just removed all the bloated fields, and kept the ones that every other single sub-box animanga offers has. (yes, even the audio drama one has fields for directors and producers.) ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:52, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm bringing the discussion to WT:ANIME, which is where is should have been in the first place. You still don't have a consensus to add these new fields to the infobox, and I still oppose them as they don't add anything of importance and are simply bloat. —Farix (t | c) 11:37, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Reference in infobox

On several occasions, I have noticed a reference or note being added to the start date within the infobox, which breaks the category transclusions, like at Himōto! Umaru-chan. Is it even possible to have references in there without breaking it? —Xezbeth (talk) 08:38, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Start and end dates should always be referenced in the body of the article instead of the infobox. —Farix (t | c) 11:40, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Original work (creator) field request

Can the field "creator" or "original work/story/concept" be added to the infobox, since whoever created the work should obviously be in the infobox? The anime infobox in the Japanese Wikipedia has the "original work" field in it and even lists it first above other staff fields. -- Wrath X (talk) 06:11, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Template moving to bottom

I tried using the Header and Video templates at Anime Himitsu no Hanazono but appeared to have screwed up somewhere because they are jumping to the bottom and are screwing up text by taking out spaces in the first sentence. No idea why it's happening or how to fix it. Anyone know? Ranze (talk) 02:35, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Pages parameter

This would be useful in the case of a single volume light novel. Can this be input? --Ranze (talk) 07:26, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

No, because page count is an extremely trivial detail. We want to avoid such trivia from the infobox because of the length alone. —Farix (t | c) 10:40, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

image parameter

Does anyone know why the default image size of image parameter looks smaller than before? (probably 10 pixels smaller)

And also, do we really need to use [[File:]] on it? Marlin Setia1 (talk) 16:51, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Question about categorization

This template contains Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of anime and manga, even though that category is not intended for article pages. Could someone please either update this template or the category definition? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:41, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Problem

Any idea why this happens? The template will be set at the end of the article even though it's been put on the top. something wrong with the template?◂ ‎épine talk♬ 02:33, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Épine: You should probably ask someone over on that wiki. I tried poking around, but I don't read Sorani. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:35, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

No parameter for number of chapters

This infobox has a place for the number of episodes and the number of volumes, but no place for the number of chapter, isn't that something that should be there?★Trekker (talk) 11:39, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Network label

@TheFarix: I think we should remove "original" from the network label for the sake of consistency. {{Infobox animanga/Audio}} doesn't say "original station", it just says "station". Also, {{Infobox animanga/Print}} doesn't say "original magazine", it just says "magazine". Its two magazine labels are "magazine" and "English magazine". {{Infobox animanga/Video}}'s network labels should be similar like "network" and "English network". -- Wrath X (talk) 10:22, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Keep "Original" in the field description. It makes it that much clearer that only the original networks should be in that field and not networks where the series was rebroadcast. This isn't a problem with audio or print magazine because an audio series never gets rebroadcast and a manga or novel series never get reran in a magazine. —Farix (t | c) 11:24, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Web novels

 – — Goszei (talk) 18:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Looking at the pages linked from Shōsetsuka ni Narō about half of them include the web novel in the infobox under "Novel series" (the others have the Light Novel as the first entry). Oddly, while the doc page includes "novel series" in the examples, neither the intended usage nor how it differs from "serial novel" is explained (in the instructions for the "type" field it says "novel for a single novel, serial novel for a novel series"). For web novels I would think "serial novel" would in fact be more appropriate since they are serialised online by chapter rather than released as a series of books. Could we either get a usage example included for web novels under one of the existing parameters or a separate web novel parameter added? Shiroi Hane (talk) 17:12, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Game revert

I am not sure I would have reverted this change. The fields in question already enjoy a consensus in Template:Infobox video game (if I had the option, I'd deprecate Template:Infobox animanga/Game and see if we can use the video game infobox directly in some way, but that's an aside). I think those are reasonable adds here. What do you think, TheFarix, Burst booster, and others? --Izno (talk) 14:13, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Add more staff info in anime video templates

Since this is for animation medium, It would be right to add important staff roles like "Animation direction", "Character design", "Art direction". —Panda619 (talk) 10:51, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Agreed. Animation direction and character design are both key roles in anime production, and should definitely be included in the template. For the film template, storyboarder should also be included.
The animation direction section should include possible specialized animation direction roles, like action animation direction and mechanical animation direction; these could be indicated by specifying the specialization in parentheses after the corresponding director’s name. Assistant animation directors should probably not be included in the infobox.
Of course there are a lot of other notable roles as as well, such as compositing director and background artist. I’m personally all for adding these, but it should be discussed which kind of roles are important enough to be included. AniDB has a comprehensive lists of production roles involved in anime, in case anyone wants to have a glimpse into them.
In general, I think there is a lot that could be taken from the television infobox, like opening & ending theme and production companies.
--Narcia-chan (talk) 20:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Support I concur and I believe my thoughts are already covered by the above comment. Masum Reza📞 19:56, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Support Since we are talking about animation mediums, character designer and art direction are crucial. Theme songs should also be added too. lullabying (talk) 06:31, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Support per the above reasonings. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 15:58, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 18 October 2019

Please change template calls as listed below to avoid the redirect. The calls to those templates are transcluded in over 4,000 articles through being called in this template, so those unnecessary redirects have to be followed every time one of those articles is viewed.

I generally think of this sort of request as entirely pointless, and the claim that those unnecessary redirects have to be followed every time one of those articles is viewed is simply false, but I've  Done this, except for a transclusion of {{ifempty}} which I was unable to find, because Template:YesNo-No is only semi-protected and templates should never call templates with a lower protection level. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:08, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
@Pppery:Thanks for this, but please explain why the redirects don't have to be followed. Other admins have not raised any question about this with similar requests. Colonies Chris (talk) 10:24, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Error categories

 – — Goszei (talk) 18:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

This template has a couple of references to Category:Anime and manga articles using flag icons, which has been deleted several times and appears to have been deprecated in favour of the more general Category:Anime and manga articles using obsolete and incorrect infobox parameters. Could someone change this template appropriately? Current examples are The Doraemons and Moribito II: Guardian of the Darkness. TIA Le Deluge (talk) 16:33, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Transliteration lang tag

Please change the line 

#if: {{{ja_romaji|}}} | <br />(''{{{ja_romaji}}}'')

to 

#if: {{{ja_romaji|}}} | <br />({{transl|ja|{{{ja_romaji}}}}})

This will add lang=ja-Latn to the romaji under the kanji. This would in line with other templates:

Thank you. Opencooper (talk) 12:23, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

 Done — xaosflux Talk 19:11, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 22 January 2020

I suggest adding a "label13" for a parameter named "Seasons". What do you think? 

|label13 = {{
  #switch: {{ lc: {{{type}}} }}
  | tv series
  |tv
  | series = Seasons
}}
|data13= {{
  #switch: {{ lc: {{{type}}} }}
  | tv  | series
  | tv series = {{#if: {{{seasons|}}}|{{{seasons}}}
}}
}}

Shorouq★The★Super★ninja2 (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

For what purpose? --Izno (talk) 18:47, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Izno For the reader to be able to know how many seasons are there for a particular anime. I think this addition is necessary as we have a parameter for number of episodes. Shorouq★The★Super★ninja2 (talk) 18:55, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
There is no set meaning to a "season". Some shows, a season is 13 episodes. Others call 26 to be a season. Some have only 9 in one season and 12 in the next. The various makes the statement "Seasons: 3" less meaningful. -- ferret (talk) 20:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. Izno (talk) 21:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Edit request

I propose adding a parameter named "Seasons" to the Template:Infobox animanga/Video. This parameter will appear in the article if the "type" entered is either "tv", "series" or "tv series". I think this edit is necessary as we already have a parameter for number of episodes. I think the reader needs to know in how many seasons the episodes are split into. The suggested code is shown below: 

|label13 = {{
  #switch: {{ lc: {{{type}}} }}
  | tv series
  |tv
  | series = Seasons
}}
|data13= {{
  #switch: {{ lc: {{{type}}} }}
  | tv  | series
  | tv series = {{#if: {{{seasons|}}}|{{{seasons}}}
}}
}}

What do you think? Shorouq★The★Super★ninja2 (talk) 22:40, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Stage plays?

Stage plays and musical adaptations have become a bigger thing now that the Japan 2.5D Musical Association as been established. A lot of big titles have received stage adaptations... Is it possible to implement a sub-box for this information? lullabying (talk) 09:57, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Two edit proposals

I have two proposals for this template:

1. Location of demographic field
Currently, the print media sub-boxes display the demographic field (shonen, seinen, josei, etc.) before the imprint/magazine.
However, the template documentation for the parameter explains: "[The demographic] is established by the Japanese magazine in which the work was originally published."
For clarity, propose that the field be displayed after the imprint/magazine to avoid confusion about what the label applies to (the manga? the publisher? etc).
2. Parameters for web-published manga
Currently, there is no suitable way to display serialization information for manga published through the Internet.
Most of the articles in Category:Japanese webcomics struggle with where to put the name of the website (Imprint? "Magazine" is definitely wrong).
Example: It is misleading/inaccurate to list the magazine for Sewayaki Kitsune no Senko-san as "Comic Newtype", when the service is only an online portal affiliated with Newtype magazine.
Not sure what the best way would be to fix this is; I am open for ideas (new parameter? maybe a new sub-box?)

— Goszei (talk) 03:52, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

I support #1 and agree with #2 that there should be some way of handling web manga. Opencooper (talk) 01:38, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Agree for both, especially the second one. --Lord Yeager (talk) 08:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Agreed. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 20:12, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
@Opencooper, Lord Yeager, and Gabriel Yuji: How exactly do template proposals get implemented, and by whom? I am not clear on the process. — Goszei (talk) 21:22, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 12 May 2020

I have proposed two changes higher up on this talk page that have gained some consensus from members of WP:A&M; this edit request concerns the first one. There are currently five boxtypes in Template:Infobox animanga/Print: Manga, Novel, Novel series, Serial novel, and Light novel. In each of them, the "Demographic" field should be moved to display just below "Magazine" (except for Novel and Novel series, where it should be displayed just below "Imprint"). — Goszei (talk) 19:39, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Listing multiple seasons in single infoboxes

There's a current debate about whether anime consisting of seperate series/seasons (the example in this debate being New Game! and its new season New Game!!) should be placed under one infobox, like how long-running series like One Piece won't use seperate infoboxes for each season. While I do believe that information about the airdates and episode counts of single-cour seasons should be seperate, considering that they each have different airing times with large gaps inbetween, different titles, and potentially different staff, all of which is hard to relay accurately in one infobox, I do understand that users don't neccessarily want articles to become riddled with infoboxes. Thus brings up the problem of how to properly describe each season without needing additional infoboxes. I think what we need is a way to list, at the least, the title (if available), airing dates and episode count/list link for each season, in a similar manner to how multi-part episodes have multiple English/Kanji/Romaji sections for each part's title. That way, we can avoid needing to duplicate stuff like the studio and director, and simply elaborate in those sections if there's any differences between seasons. Basically something like this:

| type = tv series
| director = Yoshiyuki Fujiwara
| writer = Fumihiko Shimo
| music = Hajime Hyakkoku
| studio = Doga Kobo
| licensee =
| network = AT-X, Tokyo MX, TVA, MBS, BS11
| seasons = 2
| titleA = New Game!
| firstA = July 4, 2016
| lastA = September 19, 2016
| episodesA = 12 + OVA
| episode_listA = List of New Game! episodes
| titleB = New Game!!
| firstB = July 11, 2017
| lastB =
| episodesB = 1
| episode_listB = List of New Game! episodes#New Game!! (2017)

Any thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wonchop (talk • contribs) 16:34, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Title display

Many of our articles have disambiguated titles, like "Foo (manga)". When using {{Infobox animanga/Header}}, if no title was specified, the article title is used, parentheses and all. I propose that we use a template, {{PAGENAMEBASE}}, that automatically strips those out, so the title would simply be displayed as Foo if not specified.

Technical details: in the line | {{#if:{{{name|}}}|{{{name|}}}|{{PAGENAME}}}}, PAGENAME would be changed to PAGENAMEBASE. Opencooper (talk) 06:35, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Opencooper: Support. However, I see a possible issue: the documentation for that template shows the example of Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) being reduced to Sweet Dreams. This would be an issue for work titles that end with parentheticals, and don't have a specified title field (is there a way to search for these exceptions? I imagine there isn't too many, and they can be manually fixed). — Goszei (talk) 06:47, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing up that concern Goszei. Using Petscan, I generated a list of articles that use the header template and have parenthesis in their titles. Of those 702 pages, the only ones I found which have parenthesis as part of the actual title were: Bond(z), Di(e)ce and ES (Eternal Sabbath). This is how the template handles them: Bond(z), Di(e)ce, ES. For the last one, the page title has already been overriden as Eternal Sabbath. Opencooper (talk) 06:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 2 June 2020

I have proposed a change higher up on this talk page that has gained some support from members of WP:A&M. I think it can be implemented by either 1) cloning the "Manga" box, renaming it "Web manga", then replacing the "Magazine" and "English magazine" fields with "Website" and "English website". 2) Alternatively, adding a parameter (maybe web=yes) that will change these fields when it is included. — Goszei (talk) 19:39, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Deactivating 'til it's clear which you want, you have tested it, and you have consensus. Cabayi (talk) 15:18, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Hiding the portal link in the footer

Go Go! Encyclopedia Girls
Wikipe-tan and her sisters
いけいけ! 百科事典娘
(Ike Ike! Hakkajiten Musume)
GenreAction, Romance

Currently, Template:Infobox animanga/Footer places a link to Portal:Anime and manga at the bottom of every anime/manga infobox by default (example shown on the right). I propose that the footer's default parameter of portal=yes be changed to portal=no to suppress the display of this link. My justification:

  • Inconsistency with similar infoboxes. Other comparable media infoboxes (eg. Template:Infobox book, Template:Infobox television, Template:Infobox film, etc.) do not link to their respective portals.
  • Undue prominence. I don't think a link to the project portal in every infobox is particularly useful for most readers. Media articles are mainly "pick-and-choose" for readers; they visit the articles they want to read without needing help. I think the idea behind portals (guiding readers between important subtopics) is best served by the sidebar navbox, which appears on the articles that do have a topical connection (i.e. history of manga, demographic groups, fandom, etc.)
  • Redundancy. There is already a link to the portal on every anime/manga article, albeit on the talk page; it is part of the project banner placed at the top. Additionally, the template {{Portal|Anime and manga}} is placed in the "External links" section of many articles, though not all.

For these reasons, I support hiding the default display of the portal link in the footer. Thoughts? Opinions? — Goszei (talk) 06:43, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Support per Goszei's reasonings. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:45, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Being inconsistent with other infoboxes is not itself a good reason. Nor is "it's on the talk page" -> portals are for readers and readers do not read talk pages. Your second reason is reasonable, however. --Izno (talk) 14:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Producers in the Infobox

Regarding the "producers", the current correct credit seems to be that those who go in the "producer" section of the infobox have the プロデューサー credit in Japanese (for example, see Land of the Lustrous, Psycho-Pass, No Game No Life, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, take your pick of any Studio Ghibli film, and ect.). So, this is what appears to be and has been the "standard", I suppose. But there are a multitude of other "producer" credits that can be given, and I would like for some confirmation on this: no other "producer" credits belong in the infobox, correct? Examples of what I mean include: Production Generalization (制作プロデューサー), Executive Producer (エグゼクティブプロデューサー), Associate Producer (アソシエイトプロデューサー), Assistant Producer (アシスタントプロデューサ), Chief Producer (チーフプロデューサー), Line Producer (ラインプロデューサー), and the list goes on (there's more than 17 different producer credits, and I for sure don't know all of them, so I won't go out and try to list all of them). Sarcataclysmal (talk) 14:31, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Some background information. This discussion is raised due to an edit war in Deca-Dence (a good original anime btw). I do not understand why "chief producers" are not "producers". While it seems to be a norm not to include non-"producer" producer-like staff, I wonder whether it is correct. Take Deca-Dence as an example. The two chief producers are consistently referred as "producers" (プロデューサー) in interviews and press. Besides, as you may see in the Production part of the article, they surely participated in it instead of just supervising it from a very high level. -Hijk910 (talk) 14:56, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Ok but we can't just add everyone who is referred to as a producer プロデューサー outside of the series' credits, because then that slippery slopes into adding all 17+ other credits as well, and a majority of these, including chief producer, aren't understood credits. Deca-Dence's chief producer's level of involvement works anecdotally, but compared to other series' producer predicament, the "chief producer" role loses all sense of what Deca-Dence portrays it to be. For example, it's not really known what Kouji Yamamoto's work on Psycho-Pass isn't fully understood, or let's look at Haikyu!!, which had 9 producers throughout its 4 season run, and it's had 5 chief producers throughout 3 of those seasons; for the 4th season, the chief producers, and some of the producers, became "executive producers"... why? Is Haikyu saying that chief producers are no different than executive producers? I have absolutely no idea, but it complicates what either of these credits are supposed to instigate, and knowing this, I would rather stick to not adding either "executive", "chief", or whatever other random producer credit the anime industry throws at us than potentially be completely incorrect due to a lack of understanding of these credits. Sarcataclysmal (talk) 19:39, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
I don't think there is an anime having all 17+ types of producers. (I see "assistant director" in the infobox of Haikyu!! though...) Unlike other types of producers, "executive producers" and "chief producers" are with relatively clearly meaning - the "producers" more senior than the producers, instead of those specialized for specific functions, nor with unknown meaning (at least to me) like "Production Generalization" or "Produce". Do you agree to give a pass to "executive producers" and "chief producers"? -Hijk910 (talk) 12:50, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
Looking into the actual responsibility of the "chief producer" through various articles in an attempt to decipher what it means, I have found that the role is basically just another name for someone who is an "executive producer" (to which my Haikyu statement supports). Executive producers and producers already aren't the same, as they have usually vastly different roles, powers, and responsibilities which vary depending on who and what the project is (and as we've seen in media, sometimes it's just given to a famous person for financing something), according to The Program Doctor. Ordinary "producers", on the other hand, usually have more creative influence and hands-on jobs when it comes to the projects they work on, as described in this excerpt from a MasterClass article "The executive producer does not get involved with the day-to-day of a production like a producer does." So, with the understanding that these roles are quite different, and that chief/executive producers arent just "more senior", I cannot support the notion that they should be listed alongside "producers." Now, if "executive producer" was added to the infobox template, as a separate entity, like on the television series infobox template, then I suppose I could agree to that, but otherwise no.
Tl;dr the roles are too different and Im against listing them together. Sarcataclysmal (talk) 17:17, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
While I really want to get a one-off pass for Deca-Dence only (and maybe some other works if their involvement is proved anecdotally), it seems that it may incur edit wars in other articles. I give up. I agree with your edit. -Hijk910 (talk) 03:56, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Still, there should be a proper definition for what the "producer" spot is for future reference. Considering the lack of understanding of the other credits, and the clear differences between producers and chief/executive producers, at the very least (for now) I believe the aforementioned articles listing プロデューサー should be followed as some sort of a standard (a written one, rather than unspoken). Or, if other credits are to be listed, that should be confirmed here too, through discussion (like how "chief director" was discussed, and it was decided it'd be allowed with "director" over at the film infobox template talkpage). Such discussion here would be beneficial to organization on the Wiki, in my opinion. Sarcataclysmal (talk) 09:44, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Then more people should be involved in this discussion? -Hijk910 (talk) 14:01, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Preferably, but not for our own little predicament (which we've solved), just in a general discussion. Sarcataclysmal (talk) 23:45, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Sure. -Hijk910 (talk) 17:58, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at WT:ANIMANGA § Producer lists in infoboxes

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga § Producer lists in infoboxes. — Goszei (talk) 03:40, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Runtime in video infoboxes

Is it possible to add a runtime parameter for the television dramas? Some run for 30 minutes while others run for 60 minutes. lullabying (talk) 19:38, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Play

There should be added Infobox animanga/Play or animanga/Theatre. For example, for Oh! Edo Rocket. Smeagol 17 (talk) 11:04, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

  • I agree and have requested this before. Lately, almost every series is getting a 2.5D musical. lullabying (talk) 00:43, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Automated categories

Hello, is it possible to remove some of the automated categories that were created by the templates? For example, Threads of Destiny and Kanojo ga Suki na Mono wa Homo de Atte Boku de wa Nai use the automated category Category:Japanese television dramas based on manga when both original mediums were novels. lullabying (talk) 00:55, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 23 March 2021

 – — Goszei (talk) 18:25, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

I suggest adding a "number of copies sold" parameter for the manga, what do you think? Shorouq★The★Super★ninja2 (talk) 03:11, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:22, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

translator field

 – — Goszei (talk) 18:25, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Could a "translator" field be added? Smeagol 17 (talk) 13:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Update category names

A recent move was made for Category:[year] anime television series to Category:[year] anime television series debuts. It's time to update Template:Infobox animanga/Video since the old category name remains despite articles being moved to the new one. Harushiga (talk) 08:54, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 January 2022

Please change {{ #time: "[[Category:"Y "anime television series]]" | {{{first}}} }}}}{{ #ifexpr: {{ #time: Ymd | {{{first}}} }} to {{ #time: "[[Category:"Y "anime television series debuts]]" | {{{first}}} }}}}{{ #ifexpr: {{ #time: Ymd | {{{first}}} }} since all of the Category:Anime television series debuts by year categories were moved. Link20XX (talk) 15:40, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:48, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
@ScottishFinnishRadish: This edit is for Template:Infobox animanga/Video, whose talk page redirects here. Hense why I requested here. Link20XX (talk) 15:52, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
You had a semi-protection request at first, thus the canned response for that. Your current request should get you the assistance you need, though. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:55, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 Done * Pppery * it has begun... 22:38, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

"Relaunch run" field?

Is it possible for Infobox animanga/Print to have a second field that lists relaunch/revival serialization dates for manga? Several series (The Rose of Versailles, Supinamarada!, The Poe Clan) ended their print runs only to be relaunched years later, but there's no real way to communicate that in the infobox. It creates a situation where the infobox ends up implying that a series like The Rose of Versailles ran continuously from 1972 to 2018, which is inaccurate. Morgan695 (talk) 17:12, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Add a second instance of the manga component of the infobox. If it's years later, they are not the same series. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
For a revival, that feels like a lot of redundant text when the only practical new information is the publication dates. Not sure a second instance of Infobox animanga/Print is a desirable fix here, especially when Infobox animanga is already a template that tends to get bloated very quickly. Morgan695 (talk) 17:54, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Please update the documentation

Greetings and felicitations. I had to dig Template_talk:Infobox_animanga/Archive_5#Hiding the portal link in the footer out to find out what had happened to portals on the anime articles I just checked (e.g., One Piece, though it was Nintama Rantarō that started this). Please update the template's documentation to reflect this change (which I would have been against had I known about the proposal, since the footer saves having to add the Anime Portal to every anime-related article). —DocWatson42 (talk) 09:55, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Never mind—I updated it myself. —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:52, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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