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The article Real estate in Bangladesh has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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Shipbuilding references
[edit]The references from the deleted article on shipbuilding in Bangladesh:
- http://www.banglapedia.org/HT/S_0418.htm
- http://www.daily-sun.com/details_yes_11-02-2013_Prospects-of-shipbuilding-industry-in-Bangladesh_406_4_17_1_0.html
- http://archive.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=271128
- http://newagebd.com/newspaper1/archive_details.php?date=2011-12-17&nid=43675
- http://www1.bssnews.net/newsDetails.php?cat=2&id=330095&date=2013-05-09
- http://thebangladeshtoday.com/business/2013/06/experts-for-promoting-shipbuilding-business/
- http://www.bangladeshchronicle.net/index.php/2013/02/shipbuilding-industry-can-earn-more-for-bangladesh/
- http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NF02Df01.html
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19315841
- http://www.theindependentbd.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=176058:mozena-sees-bright-future-of-shipbuilding-industry&catid=110:business-others&Itemid=156
- https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/issues/2013/10/211_63043.html
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I don't want to be notified when an article created by me gets linked from another article.
- You can turn off that feature at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo. Huon (talk) 19:16, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Hey thanks Huon, you have been helping me a lot! Thanks.
"Pran"
[edit]As you seem to be interested it in, can you upload pictures of various PRANs? For instance Pran Cola doesn't have a picture, while your PRAN and PRAN-RFL Group are using the same picture. Would these two entities use different pictures? -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 20:56, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok I'll try to upload some pictures for these articles. Akib.H (talk) 15:38, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
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Please someone look at the prose of Video gaming in Bangladesh. It is currently under Did You Know nomination. Akib.H (talk) 15:01, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- I've looked at it, and it seems to be free of any overt errors. Note that {{help me}} is to be used when you have a question, not for having more editors to look at a subject. You could contact relevant WikiProjects to come take a look. WikiProject Video Games might be of use here, instead. Tutelary (talk) 17:56, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Video gaming in Bangladesh
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Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. I want to write new articles but I'm unable to do so. Akib.H (talk) 08:47, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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I have checked the IP address you gave me in your email, and I confirmed that it is an open proxy. (There is no doubt at all about that: I was able to access Wikipedia via the proxy myself, and see the block message that you described.) If you are trying to edit via an open proxy, then unless you give us a very good reason why you need to do so, you can't. If, on the other hand, you are not editing via a proxy, then you are editing from a computer which is also acting as an open proxy for other people. Sometimes that happens because someone has compromised the computer, and maliciously set it to work as an open proxy; if that is so, you should get the computer checked for malware as soon as possible. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:18, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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Could you post the entire block message you're seeing? PhilKnight (talk) 17:08, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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This is the entire message, PhilKnight. Akib.H (talk) 17:17, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- That will not be the entire message. Above that, there will be something like "Editing from 11.22.33.44 has been blocked (disabled) by [administrator's name] for the following reason(s)". It is the IP address (in my example, 11.22.33.44) that we need in order to trace the block: we don't actually need the rest of the message. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:51, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- JamesBWatson, can you give me your email address? Akib.H (talk) 14:10, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- I don't post my email addresses on public web sites. However, if you enable email on your Wikipedia account, you can send me an email. To do that, click the "preferences" link at the top of the page, and find the option to enable email. Once you have done that, when you look at my talk page, in the "tools" box on the left hand side, you will see a link "Email this user". The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:21, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- JamesBWatson, you have got a new mail, please check it. Akib.H (talk) 15:46, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- JamesBWatson, I have checked for malware and all the malwares have been removed, could you please unblock me now? Akib.H (talk) 22:56, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'm afraid there are still uncertainties about this case, which means that you will have to wait a bit longer to have the matter settled, which must be very frustrating, but I hope it won't be too long.
- At present I am not able to connect to the proxy, but proxy access is quite often intermittent, sometimes connecting and sometimes not, so the fact that I can't access it right now is not conclusive proof that the proxy will not be open again. There are still three open ports, leaving the possibility that open proxy access may return. Is the computer or router that connects to the internet in use as any sort of proxy, not necessarily an open one? Is it intended to be possible to connect to the computer or router from another computer, either on the internet or on a local network? If that is intended, then it may be that the access was unintentionally set up in a way which allowed anyone to log in, rather than just authenticated users, and possibly now the set-up has been corrected: that would explain why there are open ports, but I can't connect. If, on the other hand, it is not intended that there be any network access to the computer or router, then there is probably a problem with the network settings on the device, as there probably should not be open ports.
- My inclination is to check a few more times at intervals whether it is possible to connect, and if not, then unblock the IP address. However, there are many things about proxies that I don't know, so in this situation I normally post a message about this to Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies, to see if anyone can see anything which I can't, and which will help decide the matter. On this occasion, though, since you sent me the IP address by email, you presumably don't want it posted publicly, so I can't do that. I can email a regular proxy checker to ask for a second opinion, if you give me permission to pass the IP address on. Once again, I am sorry you are having to wait so long to get the matter sorted out. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 09:31, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- JamesBWatson, please pass on the IP to the proxy checker through email if that helps. I'm not much knowledgeable about the technical bit, I'm using a LAN broadband. I'm also running a hostednetwork in my laptop, is this the reason? Also, you said there might be problems with the network settings on the device, how can I fix it? Akib.H (talk) 15:38, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- The bad news is that I am now able to connect via the proxy again, so the IP address is still hosting an open proxy, and can't be unblocked. Since you are running a hostednetwork in your laptop, it must be possible for people to access it from outside, which explains why there are ports visible to the outside world, but it should not be possible for members of the public to use it as a proxy, as I am able to do. I guess there must be some problem with the set up of that hosted network, but I'm afraid I have no personal experience of running one, and I can't offer any suggestions about what setting may need to be changed, or how. There may be help online for the particular software you are using to host it: very likely there will be a forum for it. The only other thing I can think of is the possibility of giving you IP block exemption on Wikipedia, but I once got told off for doing that without first consulting a CheckUser, so I'll email a Checkuser to ask for help. I am unfortunately completely out of time now, but I will get onto it as soon as I can. I am sure it must be frustrating for you to have yet another delay in getting this sorted out, but I can only ask you to try to be patient. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 19:53, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- JamesBWatson, it looks like it has been fixed, I can edit now, thanks for your time. Akib.H (talk) 14:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- You must have moved to another IP address then, because the one you gave me is still blocked. However, as long as you can edit again, all is OK. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 08:13, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- JamesBWatson, it looks like it has been fixed, I can edit now, thanks for your time. Akib.H (talk) 14:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- The bad news is that I am now able to connect via the proxy again, so the IP address is still hosting an open proxy, and can't be unblocked. Since you are running a hostednetwork in your laptop, it must be possible for people to access it from outside, which explains why there are ports visible to the outside world, but it should not be possible for members of the public to use it as a proxy, as I am able to do. I guess there must be some problem with the set up of that hosted network, but I'm afraid I have no personal experience of running one, and I can't offer any suggestions about what setting may need to be changed, or how. There may be help online for the particular software you are using to host it: very likely there will be a forum for it. The only other thing I can think of is the possibility of giving you IP block exemption on Wikipedia, but I once got told off for doing that without first consulting a CheckUser, so I'll email a Checkuser to ask for help. I am unfortunately completely out of time now, but I will get onto it as soon as I can. I am sure it must be frustrating for you to have yet another delay in getting this sorted out, but I can only ask you to try to be patient. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 19:53, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- JamesBWatson, please pass on the IP to the proxy checker through email if that helps. I'm not much knowledgeable about the technical bit, I'm using a LAN broadband. I'm also running a hostednetwork in my laptop, is this the reason? Also, you said there might be problems with the network settings on the device, how can I fix it? Akib.H (talk) 15:38, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- I don't post my email addresses on public web sites. However, if you enable email on your Wikipedia account, you can send me an email. To do that, click the "preferences" link at the top of the page, and find the option to enable email. Once you have done that, when you look at my talk page, in the "tools" box on the left hand side, you will see a link "Email this user". The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:21, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- JamesBWatson, can you give me your email address? Akib.H (talk) 14:10, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!
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Good work on Kazi Nazrul Islam Vinegarymass911 (talk) 12:21, 21 May 2016 (UTC) |
- Thank you so much Vinegarymass911. It means a lot. Akib.H (talk) 15:53, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Assume good faith: do not mistake a content dispute for vandalism
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- Thank you, I will keep that in mind. Akib.H (talk) 07:17, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of PRAN
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Article Title Change of Muslin Trade in Bengal
[edit]Hi Akib, I believe the page's name should be Muslin Trade in Bengal because there was no Bangladesh at that time and the region was known as Bengal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tahmina.tithi (talk • contribs) 18:40, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Your personal attack in the Kazi Nazrul Islam page
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Please also read my reply to both you and Ms Sarah Welch on my page. Bishonen | talk 22:38, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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Bengali calendar
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