User talk:Bduke/Archive 10

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request for retrival of deleted article

my username is yahoo468 and my article NIMT have been deleted ,i request u to either mail its copy to me at or retrive it on wikipedia.

i would recreate the article according to rules and regulations.pls cooperate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yahoo468 (talkcontribs) 20:03, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Edward L. Rowan

New article on a Scouter, psychiatrist, and author. Very interesting. Pls help improve. Up for DYK too. RlevseTalk 15:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


Since you nixed the QD, I started a move request. I believe that naming conventions favor returning the pioneering article to its original title Purplebackpack89 16:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

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Feel better soon! (no need to respond to this msg) DMacks (talk) 14:39, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Get better and come back soon! Take Calcium and a little Selenium to knit those bones. No need to respond. North8000 (talk) 21:25, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Ouch! Get better soon. How'd you do this? RlevseTalk 22:25, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Rlevse is wanting to make you work, but I was curious too. Or I could make up something good. Here it is: Bduke broke his arm cliff diving in Zanzibar. Pass the word! North8000 (talk) 18:37, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Nothing so adventurous. It was at home in the dark in our car port after a serious of other disasters that evening starting with a flat battery. Thanks to both of you for your concerns. I'm not doing much on wiki. --Bduke (Discussion) 23:29, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to read this bad news. Take it easy and get well soon. Best wishes, Dirac66 (talk) 18:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

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Nigerian traditional rulers

I don't know if you want to add to your comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Nigerian traditional rulers - or if your broken arm will let you. This one has got me fixing up List of Nigerian traditional states and starting Nigerian traditional rulers and articles on specific states such as Agaie Emirate and Akwa Akpa. An interesting area (to me) but I am not comfortable with the list itself, which seems likely to stay incoherent. Not a strong opinion - no great harm if the list stays. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:12, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Silver Buffalo category debate

User_talk:Fastily#Category:Recipients_of_the_Silver_Buffalo_Award RlevseTalk 09:59, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

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Scouts Royale Brotherhood

Hopefully we are closer to a good article now. I think the reason that things have settled down over the last couple of hours is that it that it is now 5:30AM in the Philippines. Note that the IP vandals also hit Alpha Phi Omega and Tau Gamma Phi, two other Philippines Fraternity. The fact that vandals hit Alpha Phi Omega tells me that they are in the Scouts Royale Brotherhood Forever faction rather than the Scouts Royale Brotherhood Traditional faction...Naraht (talk) 21:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Should the factions be mentioned? BTW, I have no idea about fraternities. There are totally foreign to me, but I do know quite a lot about student Scouting and Guiding in the UK and to a lesser extent in Europe. What is the link of SRB to Scouting? I have just asked on its talk page. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:49, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Probably not, until we can get some level of referenced information on the change from a High School only fraternity/sorority (and I'm not quite sure when Scouts Royale Sisterhood started) to one with college chapters. SRB Traditional expects members to join APO when they get to college, SRB Forever wants members to stay with SRB. Note, my knowledge here is from being on a Filipino Fraternity website. As for it's relationship with scouting, Alpha Phi Omega in the USA in 1925 was formed on the Ideals of the Scout Oath and Law. APO spread to the Philippines in 1950 and it established SRB as sort of a "Youth wing" in 1975. The other large Fraternities in the Philippines (Tau Gamma Phi, Alpha Kappa Rho) and others have them as well, but they tend to be controlled directly. Most of the SRB symbolism is related to scouts, but I think any contact with Boy Scouts of the Philippines is through Alpha Phi Omega. I'm on the International Relations committee for Alpha Phi Omega, so I have somewhat of a COI here, but I hope I'm working with NPOV.Naraht (talk) 01:05, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Victoria Office of Police Integrity

Hi Bduke, I saw your post on the Wiki Project Australia saying you wanted to contribute. I'm interested in updating the Victoria Office of Police Integrity (OPI) page, as it's written like a press release and doesn't have any discussion on the numerous issues in the OPI (corruption, cover-ups of human rights abuses etc) that are regularly reported in reputable Australian media outlets. I've left a comment in the discussion page with a huge list of links and will be doing more myself. Sorry if this is the wrong area to be posting this, I'm somewhat new to editing and that's part of the reason I'm asking for help with editing the OPI page. Thanks.Wikiiuser87324987234 (talk) 18:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

It needs more references and it needs those that are there to be formatted correctly. I will fix up the references, but I do not have much time, or indeed interest, to do more. Good luck with it. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

A reminder

Regarding [1], there are a couple things that are supposedly agreed on. It's rather nice when they get done. I've looked several times for references for these tiny "inhabited place" articles, including via library search, and come up empty. How do you think I knew what I said was the case? Or do you think I just made it up? Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:21, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually, your "reminder" is more snide than the perceived incivility.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:43, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
You're probably right, and I apologize if my tone was more aggressive than needed. I don't like having my integrity questioned, though, and still really did not appreciate it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:03, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
I do not think I was questioning your integrity, but I was iritated by your attack on stubs which I recall from long ago. Encyclopedias can have very long or very short articles and I think small places are well served by short articles. They contain exactly what many readers will be looking for. I do not support their merger into lists. I do not think you have the backing of a consensus of editors on this point. If you want to continue this, please take it back to Wikipedia talk:Notability. --Bduke (Discussion) 20:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

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The Chair

I think you misinterpreted my "vague" comment. By that I meant that the term has too many meanings for it to be a redirect to a horse racing target. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 19:33, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

TPH has NAC'd the AfD and moved the article to The Chair (Grand National) and established The Chair as a disamb. I have no problem with that but don't think the current name is quite right. Please contribute to the discussion at Talk:The Chair (Grand National)#Rename. Thanks, Bigger digger (talk) 22:06, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Nations at/in Scottish universities

Hi! I didn't understand.[2] The phrase nation at a university is more correct, right? -- Frous (talk) 20:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'm a bit noob with all the practices here since I don't have time to contribute so much. Could you please explain to me what I should do if I find the name of an article incorrect? If you want to chnage the title, it should be moved to retained the history and not words of one syllable, please? :) In case you prefer the preposition in in the name of the article, let me know.

Thank you for your patience. :) -- Frous (talk) 21:44, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

  • If a title (sorry, two syllables) is wrong, move the article to the right title--don't copy it. Copying "moves" only the text, not the history of the article and its many versions and edits; copying it does not preserve who did what to the article, and thus erases other editors' contributions. A move preserves all that. Drmies (talk) 23:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for helping our friend. I reversed the copy before rushing out to a conference sessions. --Bduke (Discussion) 01:41, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Yep, thanks! But is the redirecting function reserved only for admins? I see no "move" button on the toolbar when I'm editing articles, so might want to consult you, Bduke, in case the [[3]] prefers "at". -- Frous (talk) 15:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
It is in the menu that drops down when you move your mouse over the down pointing triangle in the toolbar at the top. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox Australian winery

Template:Infobox Australian winery has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox winery. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. WOSlinker (talk) 21:20, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Progressive Award Scheme

I take your point as well - my personal thought on it is get consensus to merge (which there seems to be - I'm certainly happy with that), do the merge then I don't think there would be any objections to closing the RM as moot. If I'm honest I was thinking I'd be happy to leave your closure but notice you hadn't removed the movereq template so it would still be listed on RM and so as I was going to edit it anyway I chose to undo your close even though I wasn't too bothered either way. If you reclose it I will not oppose as it seems the common sense, ignore all rules, thing to do. Dpmuk (talk) 00:20, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

/* Religion in Scouts Australia */

Brian, I was sitting back re-reading and editing the Scouts Religious section and feel it is probably now getting more space than it deserves. Religion plays little part in the day to day australian scouts activities and it will end up being the biggest section on the page. By highlighting religion and religious intolerance I may be scaring kids off while outside of wiki I am actively trying to recruit kids. The original entry where it stated that scouts was open to non religious faiths was wrong but that has now been modified. Can I propose deleting paragraphs 1, 2, 4, 5, 8 and 9? I am happy with the wording as is that says that people unable to make the promise can't be members. Anyone with any sense can see that this excludes atheists. --Ozscout (talk) 04:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

I have no problem with that. Some of it is rather unencyclopedic anyway. However, I think you should raise it on the talk page. On your last provocative sentence, I have been discussing the issue of religion in Scouting across the world for many years, and you would be surprised how many people disagree with you. Personally, I can see how some atheists might in honesty, see the wording of the Australian Promise as a way in, but I am not one of them. I think is is a way in for many Australians who simply do not care less about religion, for or against. Again, I am not one of them. I think, like Richard Dawkins but less strongly, that belief in God is both false and often dangerous. --Bduke (Discussion) 06:45, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

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Invitation to join 10 Years Of Wikipedia in Melbourne

Hi Brain, I am writing to you to invite 10 years celebration program in Melbourne. Earlier I wrote to you at As I havent heard back I am writing here. I was wondering will you be there? Can you please write me back at

For more:

Regards Arif. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:02, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

I replied to your e-mail. Hopefully we can post details of a meetup tonight or tomorrow morning. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:14, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Bangladesh Scouts

hello brother i am a President's Scout of Bangladesh Scouts, i made the changes to the page because it will make the page nice, some of my friends suggesteed me to make the changes, & i am a authenticated person of Bangladesh Scouts --Tahmidazuwad (talk) 21:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


thnx bduke brother for the nice suggestion, i will follow you, & would you plz describe the steps, how i can license my images that i wanted to upload in wiki??? :D --Tahmidazuwad (talk) 03:23, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


would you plz license it by yourself??? i am trying but i can not fix it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tahmidazuwad (talkcontribs) 13:35, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Olave B-P

Thank you for tweaking my efforts  ;-)

RobinClay (talk) 14:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


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Thanks, JJB 21:08, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


I have added a detailed list of pros and cons on the chemistry talk page why I think the picture with the reaction of water is more appropriate for the page than that of the flasks. I hope to get some feedback from you and the other editor who reverted the first version of the new figure. Next time I add a new figure, I will give a longer explanation up front. Thanks for the suggestion to discuss this on the discussion page. I'm looking forward to a good exchange, and am interested to hear was everyone has to say on this matter.

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Old Fooians

Hi Bduke

Thanks for your suggested compromise at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 January 24#Old_Edwardians. I'm glad to see that the discussion has now been closed as "rename to People educated at Foo". Thanks for being the one to settle this.

I think that it would be now be appropriate to do as you suggested, and have a followup nomination for the others. I undertook at CFD to do that, but before going ahead I wanted to ask for your thoughts on my idea for how to go about it.

My first thought is to leave aside the 9 original public schools, as defined by the Public Schools Act 1868. Some editors may feel that all of those schools are sufficiently well-known to justify retaining the the "Old Fooians" format, even if it is replaced elsewhere. So I think that they should be treated as a special case. Personally, the only "Old Fooian" term I'm wholly persuaded on keeping is the Old Etonians, but I may be persuadable on some or all of the others ... so I suggest leaving them all aside until the others are done (and possibly omitting them entirely).

My second thought is to group the remainder in batches of about fifty, because if we do all 300 at once, then it'll be difficult to examine whether the titles are sufficiently disambiguated.

How does this sound to you? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:47, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

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Particle AfD

Hello Bduke. Thanks for correcting my error in the closing template subst for the Particle AfD discussion. Best regards, Crowsnest (talk) 02:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Chicago first Gang Show

I can provide a pdf file of the Chicago Gang Show program, but being new on Wiki I still haven't figured out how to add it to what I have written. Help? D.Bischel (talk) 15:52, 16 February 2011 (UTC)