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August 2013[edit]

Hello, Frze. I'm the one who was trying to update and condense the three sections you've reverted. First, could you tell me where I went wrong with the citations? I made a point of transferring each one into the new copy at the relevant sentence. Second, do you not think that my edited-down version was an improvement? Thanks. Valetude (talk) 11:17, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Valetude:: Hello, Valetude. First: Please take a look at the bottom of the site. I am the one who has to clean all the errors. See my contributions. Best wishes.

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I think, you can't remove all the editwork by many wikipedian autors. Best wishes --Frze (talk) 11:46, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that, Frze.
I appreciate that you had some mopping up to do, and can only apologise. But the Wiki page on Footnotes does not seem to show where I went wrong in transferring each citation individually into the new text.
Aside from that, I would just make two points. One is that the article carries a tag, requesting updates. Many of the references and citations that I deleted were topical in the first weeks after the disaster, but would be of no interest afterwards. Second, I don't see what is so sacred about the work of 'other Wikipedian authors'. Long-winded entries often need editing-down. Also many of my own contributions have been savaged for no good reason over the years.
Thanks anyway, and hope not to cause you any more extra work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valetude (talkcontribs) 10:32, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May 2013[edit]

Greetings & thanks[edit]

Greetings Frze. Thanks for fixing that ref. at Jim Richardson - I took for granted that the article already had a reflist... and didn't preview. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 18:12, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for tip[edit]

Thanks for the referencing tip on Hilton College (South Africa). I have rectified it. Mattpbarry (talk) 20:07, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Frze, Some nut case came along and vandalized (I think this is the right term for what s/he did) the entire p. and you seemed to undo all crazy stuff. Am I right that you returned everything back to normal? If so, out of curiosity, how did you do it? Or, what exactly happened. EVerything is fine now. Thanks in advance for explaining.--Classicfilmbuff (talk) 23:35, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Look at this page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greta_Garbo&action=history and check what's wrong. Then choose the last version without vandalism. Then choose http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greta_Garbo&diff=prev&oldid=554756492 , click Edit, ignore the warnings and click Save page. That's all. --Frze (talk) 04:42, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Frze. And thanks for reverting to the right version!--Classicfilmbuff (talk) 22:09, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Frze, I realize that you were probably trying to be helpful, but when you corrected the refs in this article just now, you caused an edit conflict, which basically meant that I lost my last hour of work. Very frustrating, as you can well imagine. I promise, I was in the middle of fixing it. Please--make sure an editor is finished what they're doing and moved on before you step in like that. I appreciate your enthusiasm, really, but thought you'd like to know what happened. I'll let you know when I'm finished improving the article so you can review it for its FAC, if you'd like. Thanks. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 20:09, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies[edit]

It appears that, for some reason, I can't connect to Wikipedia through my usual ISP. I tried going through an anonymizer, and it appears that it cannot abide http/https. Please revert all my edits which have damaged Wikipedia since about 3 am (UTC) 30 May 2013. I'll stop editing until I can figure out how to fix the problem. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 09:09, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

June 2013[edit]

Guns of the Timberland reference problem fix[edit]

FRZE - Thanks for looking at the ref issue I had with the Guns of the Timberland. I saw that there were no footnotes showing up on the article after I did the final save and was working on fixing it. It took a bit to figure it out--I thought that since there was a "==references==" included the footnotes would have appeared but I needed the tag that you added. I am curious, how did you find out about my problem so quickly?

I am having a hard time finding sufficient documentation for the <ref>. . .</ref> tag that can be used in Wikipedia. Trying to deduce what <ref name="test">[http://www.example.org Link text], additional text.</ref> will produce in practice is a bit obscure to me. Currently I am looking at previous articles and sort of deduce what is needed and what can be done. Could you tell me where I could find a more complete documentation for how to create a Reference tag?

Thanks osomite — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osomite (talkcontribs) 08:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

chagall[edit]

Thanks for fixing this for me... it was some kind of visual editor error, but I was travelling and lost my internet connection midway through so couldn't fix it myself! cheers, -- phoebe / (talk to me) 14:15, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

July 2013[edit]

John Paul II[edit]

Thank you for fixing that....I was mainly editing it to 'fix and update' the ISBNs (the article was in an error cat I've been working) but I run the advisor script while I am at it, and since that article had so many dashes I ran 'find' on all three types and looked at the context to get which type was which right. I'm guessing I just didn't notice that that 'phrase' was the ref name, and not the title. :/

Mostly, thanks for actually 'fixing' it instead of just reverting me....recalculating all the ISBNs in an article that big was quite a pain.

Lesson learned...don't trust the 'rendering' in the WikEd "show changes below" (the one that gives the red-and-green differences) to catch breaking a ref name. :P Revent (talk) 08:35, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think your edit summary is too generous. To me, any edit by an anonymous editor which causes damage is in the first place vandalism. It is very tedious to report vandalism officially, but I certainly include that on the edit summary. (Or use something like Twinkle which says it for me.) I'm a little more lenient with signed-in editors, and give them the benefit of the doubt. John of Cromer (talk) mytime= Sat 12:56, wikitime= 11:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ich denke, Ihre edit-Zusammenfassung ist zu großzügig. Für mich ist jegliche Bearbeitetung von einem anonymen Editor, der Schaden verursacht, in erster Linie Vandalismus. Es ist sehr mühsam, Vandalismus offiziell berichten. Aber ich vermerke das in der edit-Zusammenfassung. (Oder ich nutze so etwas wie Twinkle, die das für mich tut.) Ich bin ein wenig nachsichtig mit angemeldeten Redakteuren, und gebe ihnen den Vorteil des Zweifels.

Thanks for the information. I don't know how to use Twinkle. --Frze (talk) 15:32, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please remember to notify the article-creator User:Laith-algharagholy for the article you tagged for speedy-deletion...it's his first attempt at editing, so it's possible he's having trouble getting started. DMacks (talk) 19:29, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@DMacks:: You are right - Thanks and Good night - --Frze (talk) 19:57, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for all your edit-work! DMacks (talk) 20:08, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

August 2013[edit]

view history I would also like to thank you for the changes you've made on my article Tallinn town hall. You are very kind! Mailaxxx (talk) 17:47, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing your reflinks but when you make unexplained deletions it is not for me to "watch what I do" it is for you to explain via edit summary or talk page. Yours, Quis separabit? 15:10, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rawla Mandi > Headquarters[edit]

Your reversion to my recent edit on Rawla Mandi, i.e. headquarters→headquarter is not much helpful, or correct. There is no headquarter in a noun, only headquarters, be it singular or plural. See for yourself Oxford dictionary, if you are British user, or Merriam-Webster, if you would prefer American. Chhandama (talk) 12:21, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Chhandama::I reverted your edit because of this <nowiki> ||</nowiki> OBC Rawla Mandi <nowiki>|| 100525 || ORBC100525 || Example</nowiki>. You destroyed <ref>http://www.indiapost.gov.in/Pin/pinsearch.aspx?Pin_On=335707</ref>. See difference. Best wishes --Frze (talk) 12:34, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did not notice my own vandalism! Thanks for rectifying. Chhandama (talk) 13:01, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have just realised that the damage was done by Visual Editor while saving my edit, because I never touched that section. This is perhaps one reason VE should not be publicised to new and anonymous users, it causes unexpected vandalism on its own. And more thanks for correcting the article. Chhandama (talk) 02:41, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

September 2013[edit]

Frze, I note that you have reverted an official Wikimedia Foundation DMCA takedown on the article Sport in Australia, citing issues with the references. Under no circumstances may takedowns that are issued through the Legal Department to be reverted. Doing so places the Foundation (and thus, the projects) at extreme legal risk. I have reverted you. Please don't do this again - doing so will likely result in a block. For more information see WP:OFFICE. I'm certain you were unaware of the gravity of that action, so I'm not taking further action today, but please do familiarize yourself with the contents of that page so that you can avoid this situation in the future. Now, regarding the references errors - the easiest thing would simply have been to fix the problems. I'm doing so now. Thank you. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 18:33, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Philippe (WMF):: Thanks a lot for information and reverting my edit. I didn't know about importance of Wikipedia:Office actions and Digital Millennium Copyright Act. I am very sorry. --Frze (talk) 18:54, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I figured that was the case. That's why I flagged it to you.  :) Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 18:57, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Read the article[edit]

I cited Steen twice in Homer Davenport, there was a formatting error where I used quotation marks in the ref name= tag in one place but not the other. So instead of commenting out the source, you could have fixed the formatting error with a simple word search. Or, if you were too lazy to do that, then put a note at talk stating that there appeared to be an error. Your "fix" was not helpful and did not actually identify the problem that required fixing. Next time, don't do drive-by edits unless you understand what is going on. Montanabw(talk) 18:58, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Montanabw: If you write <ref>Steen 2012, p. 46</ref> instead of <ref name="Steen"/> - you are wrong, not me. You made twice the error! Don't write such things as And restore Steen... (will the drive by editor please read the f***ing article and fix the syntax instead of commenting out source? Sheesh). You have to read and to notice, that there are again and again:
Cite error: A list-defined reference named "Steen" is not used in the content (see the help page).
--Frze > talk 19:53, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have contributed to over a dozen featured articles and over 30 GAs, my co-editor on this project has even more. So do not lecture me about how to format, we're doing an article improvement, improvements are incremental and sometimes have typos. It's one thing to drop a tag or a note on the talk page, it's another thing to F**k up other people's work by screwing up the formatting even worse. Per Wikipedia:DEMOLISH, tag it or actually fix it. Don't just cause even more problems, which, from comments above, appears to be what you are doing to a number of articles. Montanabw(talk) 20:35, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ich habe mehr als ein Dutzend vorgestellten Artikel beigetragen und über 30 GA, hat meine Mitherausgeber an diesem Projekt noch mehr. Also nicht belehren mich über das Format, wir machen einen Artikel Verbesserung, Verbesserungen sind inkrementelle und manchmal Tippfehler. Es ist eine Sache, um einen Tag oder eine Notiz auf der Diskussionsseite fallen, es ist eine andere Sache, F ** k up anderer Leute Arbeit zu vermasseln die Formatierung noch schlimmer. Per Wikipedia: Zerstöre, TAG oder es tatsächlich zu beheben. Nicht nur verursachen noch mehr Probleme, die aus obigen Bemerkungen zu sein scheint, was Sie zu einer Reihe von Artikeln zu tun.

Rollback rights given to Frze[edit]

Can you please explain to me your reasons for allowing Frze to rollback my warning to him to not conduct his edit-waring argument in the article The Bill on the actual article page. I told him that the correct place to do this was on the talk page. What he did defaced the article with large amounts of BOLD RED TYPE in the very first sentence of the introduction. I hasten to add that what he was arguing about was another editors changing of 'is' to 'was' a 'police procedural' TV series. I had no argument with his rationale (in fact I wholeheartedly agreed with the context ) but objected to him arguing on the actual article page. Please explain. The Dart (talk) 20:15, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I granted Frze rollback rights because they requested them here; in my review of their request, I did not find anything to warrant denying their request, although it is possible that I could have been wrong. Could you provide diffs of any misuse of rollback or other edits you think should warrant rollback being revoked from them, please? Thanks. Acalamari 21:18, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • No I can't, because I removed the offending text in The Bill article at the time that I warned him because it was the simplest thing to do. But I do suggest you drop by his talk page where he is right now having a similar dispute with Montanabw. It may be better all round if non-English speaking editors stuck to editing articles in their own native tongue. The Dart (talk) 21:30, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Acalamari: I noticed this --> error and fixed it by editing an old revision of this page, as edited by Nikkimaria at 05:51, 15 September 2013. That is all. User The Dart wrote me a notice, which I didn't answer, because I have a lot to do. He is now fighting me. Why do he do this? I don't know. He is stalking/hounding me! I only fixed this Cite error: A list-defined reference named "Steen" is not used in the content. --Frze > talk 21:52, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am not stalking him. I just wondered why he was allowed to remove my warning to him when another editor such as QwertyBinary reprimanded me for removing something from my own talk page. I just thought it was a double standard, that's all.The Dart (talk) 22:01, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have to log out for the night (will be going to bed soon) and will look more into this tomorrow, if that's okay. In the meantime, I would like to clarify that, while it's not recommended, you are both free to remove messages from your respective talk pages if you so desire; neither of you should be blocked for removing messages from your talks. While I'm saying this without knowing the context, The Dart, you should not have been warned or reverted on your own talk for removing messages from it. Acalamari 22:12, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, now I know where I stand, I was threatened with blocking by QwertyBinary. Over and out. The Dart (talk) 22:18, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Before I go for now, the relevant link for both of you is Wikipedia:User_talk_page#User_talk_pages, which should clarify the user talk issue for you. Acalamari 22:22, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
User:The Dart wrote wrong bad things about me on my talk page as an IP: This is Vandalism. You should warn him, not me. Thanks and God Night. --Frze > talk 22:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
All that I wrote about Frze was related to his vandalism of The Bill article, which produced two glaringly bold errors which were highlighted in red text. I reverted his vandalism and told another editor, Montanabw, about it as she was having the same problem with him on an article, Homer Davenport, that she was making a major contribution to. It is obvious to me that he hasn't got any more than a rudimentary comprehension of English.The Dart (talk) 12:12, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I did not make any vandalism, and there are no bold errors highlighted in red text. See: revision of this page, as edited by Nikkimaria and compare with the --> error by 92.20.145.188, which I fixed. Please: Show me bold red text, Mr. Dart. Homer Davenport is completely another total different problem, which should not interest you. --Frze > talk 16:46, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, The Dart, when someone commits vandalism, their intent is to deliberately and maliciously degrade the quality of the encyclopedia; I don't think that Frze's edits constitute malicious intent. I also don't think that Frze's edits (the ones I've reviewed, anyway) to either The Bill or Homer Davenport warrant blocking them or revoking their rollback rights; that is why I asked for specific diffs, as I haven't found any edits were Frze introduced an error/red text into the The Bill article. However, Frze, after looking through some of your rollbacks, I am concerned. Could you explain to me how any of the following edits were vandalism? Some look more like good-faith accidents than vandalism and should have been reverted with a proper explanation: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] In addition, while I said removing messages from your talk page is fine, using rollback to do so is a misuse of the rollback tool.
I'd also like to assure both of you, The Dart and Frze, that I have not taken anyone's side and am listening to what both of you are saying. Best. Acalamari 17:33, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I accept that what Frze did to The Bill may have been a good faith error. I can no longer actually find it in the form (red text) that I found it in before I deleted it, but he was arguing the point on the actual article page instead of the talk page. Anyway I am sure you would like to get on with life, as would I. Thanks Acalamari, goodnight.The Dart (talk) 17:51, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as how Dart brought this to my attention, I'll just note for the record (don't need any action at this time, just an FYI only, FWIW) that Frze commented out a source I inserted in the Homer Davenport article that WAS being used for inline footnotes, but there were typos in the formatting (I left out some quotation marks) that created the appearance of a source that was not used in the article body text. When I undid his changes, with a snippy remark, I admit, he reverted me with a lecture about proper formatting. Then I got really snippy with Frze about it because it made more work for me to clean up - and because Wehwalt and I are prepping the piece for GA, and it's lot of work, I was particularly short-fused about a drive-by edit like that and took it to Frze's talk. But he has backed down, and appears to be exhibiting good will, so as far as I am concerned, that issue is settled, but if you're wondering, that's what happened. Some of this may well be related to a language issue, but I cannot say for sure. Not a big deal at this point, though I wish he would have dropped the stick after the first revert. Montanabw(talk) 18:03, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@The Dart: You can't find any bold red text or syntax-errors in my edit on The Bill, because they never had been there. I fixed the -->-problem, that's all. You are right, the correct place for the argument is in the talk page, not in the text of the actual article. Cheers! (I prefer a good cold Pilsner) --Frze > talk 19:39, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Montanabw: We both are working to wikipedia to make it better - you as profi in your text editions, and me as little "Wiki Janitor". What I do is clearing up a lot (thousands) of petty minor ref-errors of other editors, pages with missing references list or incorrect ref-formating. I saw only Cite error: A list-defined reference named "Steen" is not used in the content, twice, as the system said to me - and you wrote the contrary, it is used. Sorry, but I believed: Who is wrong , the system or you. So I hope you can understand me now. I apologise for my angry behavior. I feel like you: I wish I would have dropped the stick after the first revert. (And not to answer User The Darts wrong unqualified chatter on my talk page.) Wish you all the best. Thanks, good night and good luck. --Frze > talk 19:39, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Acalamari: Thanks for mediation of the dispute cases. You are right, I should be more carefully in my edit work and have to leave with explanation, if they seem rather like good-faith accidents than vandalism. You said removing messages from my talk page is permitted. My opinion is anyway how: manually, with the button <undo> or using rollback function - to do so is a not misuse of the rollback tool, just easier and faster. So I wish you all the best, thanks, good night and good luck. --Frze > talk 19:39, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Montanabw, thanks for your input; I appreciate you giving me your side of the dispute and for considering the matter settled.
  • Frze, I accept your response and appreciate you listening to the concerns raised here; I hope that future interactions with everyone here will be positive. I do strongly advise against using rollback to remove messages from your talk page, though: I wouldn't remove anyone's rollback rights for it (another admin might, so be aware of that), but it is impolite to remove a message in that manner (unless, of course, you're reverting vandalism).
  • The Dart, I'd just like to note your post about wanting to move on; I hope Frze's response provides you with adequate resolution. If there's anything else anyone needs, please do let me know; I hope I was helpful! :) Best. Acalamari 20:10, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: A barnstar for you![edit]

Thank you for the barnstar! And thanks for posting the issue to the WP:VPT! It looks like it's been added to Special:AbuseFilter/345, which will tag matching edits with "Extraneous formatting" and give the editor this warning.

I found it by inputting each of the html tags into Google, one-by-one, and looking through first page of results, until I found something that looked relevant. The string that turned up useful results was "google-src-text". Sophus Bie (talk) 03:15, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

copied from Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) --Frze > talk 14:01, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

copied this from Wikipedia:Help desk --Frze > talk 11:31, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

span class="notranslate" onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"[edit]

How is it possible to produce such errors? Which button was used?
[6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
Thanks. --Frze > talk 05:12, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Frze. This one is still a mystery to me, perhaps others can comment, but until then I am going to assume that the people that made these edits got their content by doing a copy/paste from a website, capturing everything including the JavaScript and HTML code. I don't think the MediaWiki software produced this by clicking any button on Wikipedia. I'm glad you reverted it. —Prhartcom (talk) 05:56, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello —Prhartcom - I don't think that this is made by Copy and Paste, because I'm working on categories Pages with incorrect ref-formating/missing reference list, and this error already happened hundreds of times... --Frze > talk 08:36, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Could this be yet another of the Visual Editor malware behaviours? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:18, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think I may have solved the mystery! It looks like these IPs are perhaps copypasting text translated into English from Google Translate. If you take a look at this article discussing Google Translate, at the very end it says that "Upon copying the text ... I noticed that both languages were put onto the clipboard. Intrigued, I had a look at the source code ... both the original texts are included 'side-by-side' in the source code, with the original text enclosed between "google-src-text" <SPAN> tags," which is a lot like what we see in the examples you provided. Sophus Bie (talk) 09:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to happen if you let Google Translate to translate you a Wikipedia page, and then edit the page from the translated text out. Try and error ... --Frze > talk 09:51, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aha! That's pretty interesting! Do you think perhaps one of us should bring this issue up at WP:Village Pump (technical)? If you've run into it hundreds of times, then it's probably going to keep on happening. The quickest fix I can think of would be for someone to create an WP:Edit filter for edits that turn out like that. Sophus Bie (talk) 10:08, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tried and errored: It is impossible to edit the page from the translated text out directly in Google translator. Only by COPY AND PASTE from Google translator.
What I do is clearing up as little "Wiki Janitor" a lot (thousands) of petty minor ref-errors of other editors, pages with missing references list or incorrect ref-formating. I checked such errors and simply reverted (by <undo> or <rollback>), but User:Acalamari told me not to do so. They are good-faith accidents and should have been reverted with a proper explanation.
Now we know the cause of this errors. There is no need for action in my opinion. Is it very difficult to detect such errors automatically?? It's going to keep on happening. But if a filter can be programmed to detect: <span class="notranslate" onmouseover= and stop saving (like website spam filter) instead saying: Do not use Google Translator text. It causes errors. - it would be helpfull. Wikipedially Yours Frze > talk 11:08, 25 September 2013 (UTC) Sorry for my limited language skills.[reply]

  • Cannot prohibit Google Translate as a technical restriction: There are too many acceptable uses of text from Google Translate, such as alternative song titles in other languages, and so we cannot claim a technical reason to forbid it. In some objectionable cases, Google Translate might have been used to improperly generate text from a plagiarized section; however, other users have been translating original text from other-language wikipedias, to have English-language pages added/expanded here. Restrictions might have to be merely voluntary warnings written into various essays, such as "wp:About translating German Wikipedia" or others. I am not seeing a valid use of an edit-filter as a likely method. -Wikid77 14:57, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Special:AbuseFilter/345 is the logical place for this. This filter catches a range of strange html added by various browser extensions. I've added "notranslate" to the search clause which should hopefully pick it up. --User:Salix alba (talk): 17:07, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That ought to catch it. Thanks, Salix! Sophus Bie (talk) 00:45, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks too. BW Frze > talk 04:46, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

October 2013[edit]

Hello Sophus Bie - I noticed that you are a member of the Counter-Vandalism Unit. Please take a look at Woody's Chicago Style, the useless link and compare with revision of this page, as edited by GoingBatty at 2 August 2012. The contributions of User:Norman1938 and his photos seem to me as strong vandalism. Please revert his edits and warn or block him. MbG (Mit besten Grüßen) - Herzlich Frze > talk 12:31, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I just noticed I had two messages on my talk page, and not just one! It looks like you've solved the issue. Cheers! Sophus Bie (talk) 10:06, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated the photos in question for deletion. Thought you might want to know!
Also, if you're interested, here's a link to the Commons deletion policy in German. Sophus Bie (talk) 07:53, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much - Frze > talk 04:31, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Broken Ethnologue links[edit]

Thanks for helping out. Once you've verified that the info is citable to the 17th edition, you can fix the cross-ref link by simply changing "e16" to "e17". However, you probably shouldn't leave the name "e16" if you link to the current edition, as here.[11] That's currently the 17th but will update to the 18th in a couple years. If you haven't verified that the info is still found in the 17th, and that their opinion hasn't changed, then you should probably either leave it broken (though that's no guarantee that the next person along won't do the same thing) or link to the archive of the 16th edition. — kwami (talk) 07:30, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for information. --Frze > talk 07:36, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Broken reference names[edit]

You could try to get it added to Template:Backlog status. People at Wikipedia:WikiProject Fact and Reference Check may also be able to help. Superm401 - Talk 09:53, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot. --Frze > talk 10:04, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Responding to note regarding citation errors cleanup[edit]

Hi Frze, I'm responding to the note your left for me regarding fixing the pages with citation errors. I was going to suggest contacting the citation cleanup WikiProject, but it looks like you already have. That's probably your best bet as far as I know. Take care and good luck, --momoricks 01:09, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello - some editors fight off the vandal hordes, as I do repairing pages with citation errors. If I didn't - there would be a large backlog in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting and in Category:Pages with missing references list as in Category:Pages with broken reference names (more than 1500 yesterday). But it is impossible to work it alone. Do you know how to do a "Blitz" (excuse the comparision) to find willing editors to work on it. It is much more easier to repair references if you do it one hour, one day or one week ago after the errors were made instead of months and years after the error was done. Very, very difficult to find these errors.

Only with WikiBlame Search it is possible to find and repair such errors.

Best wishes --Frze > talk 08:49, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Frze I monitor certain backlog categories using {{User:TheJJJunk/Backlog}}, a template I made:
Backlog status (Purge)
Category Current status
Pages with incorrect ref formatting  Not done
Pages with missing references list  Not done
Pages with broken reference names  Not done
Pages with URL errors  Done

which determines if the category is empty or not. I also use ARA, a script that I developed, to help fix citation errors. I haven't used WikiBlame before. JJJ (say hello) 16:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: We need a new Wikipedia:References Team or a BACKLOG OF THE WEEK[edit]

I believe Wikipedia:WikiProject Citation cleanup might be a good place to find other editors interested in fixing pages with citation errors. Through that project, you could organize a backlog elimination drive as a sort of "blitz". The backlog elimination drives done by WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors or those done by WikiProject Wikify are good examples of how backlog elimination drives are organized.

I'd be glad to make a barnstar if you need one. Otherwise, there is the Citation Barnstar, which might suit your purposes. Sophus Bie (talk) 07:34, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Just so you know, I will be out of town for a couple of weeks, so I'll be slow in replying to messages.

Hello,I'm sorry for my mistake. Excuse me, please. Cordially. Gtaf (talk) 15:58, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Undo 2 or more Versions[edit]

In der en.WP gibt es keine Sichtung wie in der de.WP. Z. B. bei Vandalismus gibt es die Möglichkeit des "Rollback" ohne jegliche Zugriffsmöglichkeit bzw. nur mit umständlicher Einsichtnahme in ältere Versionen und Show Changes, wenn ein Benutzer in mehreren Schritten vandaliert hat.
Meine Frage: Undo kann man nur jeweils eine Version. Gibt es irgendwie eine simple Variante des Undo 2 or more Versions (wie es in der de.WP über Sichtung aufheben möglich ist)? Vielen Dank und schönes WE --Frze > talk 07:11, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Frze: Hello, I'm not sure if you intended to post your question on the English Wikipedia, but you did. Can you please translate your question into English, or re-post it wherever you originally intended to post it? Thank you, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:29, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyphoidbomb:I am a rollbacker. So you could revert/undo two or more versions in one quick step, but it is impossible to correct something. Undo is possible only for the last version, and it allows me to correct the revert. My question: The german Wikipedia has the tool "Rückgängig" for more versions with possibility of correction. The english Wikipedia needs the tool Undo 2 or more Versions. If you will do it, it is very difficult to go in the history to check the last versions, then edit one, click the button "Show changes"... Three or more steps. Maybe this is a question for the village pump. --Frze > talk 07:50, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can do this in fewer steps with navigation popups. From the history page, I can point at the date/time link of the relevant old revision and pick "Actions > Edit this revision" from the pop-up menu. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:40, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Frze:I think that the equivalent of 'Rückgängig' is 'undo'. (And 'undo' is different from 'revert'(rollback)). 'Undo' allows you to undo multiple revisions and also allows you to correct. To undo: go to history →‎ select the revisions using radio buttons →‎ click 'Compare selected revisions' →‎ click 'undo'. (And I believe that you will have to do all these steps with 'Rückgängig' as well). Also see Help:Reverting#Undo. Hope this helps.···Vanischenu (mc/talk) 20:18, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

November 2013[edit]

Egyptians Rituals[edit]

File:Egyptian death cerimonys.jpg

Sorry, that comment was four years ago and I don't remember it. I still can't find any evidence that the book really exists. Art LaPella — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.173.74 (talk) 04:15, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

January 2014[edit]

LNWR DX Goods class and Anglesey Central Railway[edit]

Just a short note to thank you for the heads-up on the URL missing from the citation I recently added to the above articles. Rushed copy-pasting seems to been at fault. I've sorted it out now. Ansbaradigeidfran (talk) 10:01, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why? It was a properly referenced addition to the list, and your edit summary from Twinkle was uninformative. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:00, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Charles Matthews: Sorry, take a look. --Frze > talk 08:20, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit to Josiah Clerk[edit]

No, you didn't read that article: it says Clerk "was elected to the presidency, void by the death of Dr. Edward Browne. On 13 September 1708, he was re-elected at the general election of officers on the 30th of the same month." This is confirmed in the updated version, the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, behind a paywall: Clerk "elected to the presidentship, void by the death of Dr Edward Browne, on 13 September 1708, being re-elected at the general election of officers on the 30th of the same month. Clerk ‘being indisposed by many bodyly infirmityes, and also aged’, was unable to act; he accordingly resigned on 18 December, and Charles Goodall was appointed on 23 December 1708." So he was President for two or three months. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:27, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ref error[edit]

This is fixed now [12] thanks for your attention. Lesion (talk) 04:04, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ref[edit]

Yes I saw you removed it. Well done Greco22 (talk) 16:09, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


sorry I reverted your edits - Files doesn't exist. --Frze > talk 10:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Files do exist, and you can see them here: https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87ift_ipte_d%C3%BC%C4%9Fme
I uploaded them myself. I will reuppload. I just do not know how to make them visible in this page. Cobanyastigi (talk) 10:27, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Cobanyastigi: The files does exist only for turkish wikipedia. You must upload them to commons. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&uselang=tr Best wishes --Frze > talk 10:36, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have now a similar problem with Harness_bend, gallery will not show even though the pictures are my own, uploaded to commons, with no license reservations, and used successfully in the Turkish equivalent of the same page. While trying to figure this out I have commented, not erased, the gallery code in the wiki code of the page. What can I do to make sure they show on the English version of the page? Cobanyastigi —Preceding undated comment added 14:44, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Cobanyastigi:  Done gallery error fixed - Do not use turkish "Dosya" word for "File" > see [13]. Best wishes --Frze > talk 19:06, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you had explained what was going on in the edit summary in the first place, I would have understood your revert. -- Alarics (talk) 08:19, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank youSorry. Frze > talk 08:27, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Eo braille[edit]

Don't know how long transfer to Commons takes. Might be a while. Since the file's been up since 2002, I'd like to keep the history. — kwami (talk) 06:26, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

warning for MUFADDAL A SHAKIR?[edit]

Appropriate to add warning (maybe {{subst:uw-vandalism1}}) to User_talk:MUFADDAL_A_SHAKIR ? MUFADDAL's edits include 1) added what looks like unreferenced trivia about an alleged vulture in Suklihenda Valley such as this edit, 2) 2nd major edit adding link to conservationindia.org (that doesn't seem to have a Wikipedia article), 3) re-adding vulture in Suklihenda text that KylieTastic removed for being "text copied from an article about a specific bird" 4) adding red-link images to Cinereous_Vulture article. --EarthFurst (talk) 11:24, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Revision Gashole[edit]

I looked at the changes that you made on the Gashole page. I still don't fully understand what to look for when clicking on "cur" and "prev", but it looks like you put the Gashole user ratings from the Internet Movie Database into the references section. That is not a reference, and it is already in the external links section. It also looks like you took the link to Fuel Economy of the Gas Engine out of the reference section, but it is a reference, even though there is not a superscript next to it in the body of the article. I am not finished yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruvensky (talkcontribs) 05:15, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruvensky: Take a look at your edits [14] and the result:
Bold text==References== Fuel Economy of the Gas Engine by D. R. Blackmore and A. Thomas
Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist}} (see the help page).
 Done > [15] --Frze > talk 06:49, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You indicated that the book Fuel Economy of the Gas Engine was a reference to events that occured in El Paso, Texas. The book says nothing about it. I did rewrite the first paragraph of the original synopsis, which was completely innacurate, but other than that I am not editing and am writing the plot of the movie into the Wiki page, which is a lot of work. There is nothing wrong with showing people things, but I feel that you are telling me what to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruvensky (talkcontribs) 01:18, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you
I told you to use preview button, give an edit summary and sign your contributions on talk pages, no more. This is wikistandard. --Frze > talk 08:24, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilinking[edit]

Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:

  • dates
  • years
  • commonly known geographical terms (including well-known country-names), and
  • common terms you’d look up in a dictionary (unless significantly technical).

Thanks and my best wishes.

Tony (talk) 08:29, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Linking[edit]

Hi Frze, nothing serious! In fact, you might have simply pasted in a fairly raw copy of a translation of Ahamad Javeed Ahwar to start the article. I've been cleaning up some overlinking with a script and discovered "writer" linked. (Only one? Normally I don't bother in those cases!). So it's a false alarm.

Thanks for your message. Tony (talk) 12:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for your help with this article, I saw you changed the format and was trying to restore it back to the original with the refs in the reflist and not in the article, please take care. MilborneOne (talk) 18:16, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thx --Frze > talk 19:10, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Preview button[edit]

Thank you for the message. Was this in relation to a particular edit? Hack (talk) 00:47, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the diffs. Looks like some sort of note markup was added when I pasted in some text from another page. Hack (talk) 11:37, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Template:Minority Concentrated Districts in India[edit]

As you have already noticed, that I have fixed the issue. I included the bare link initially (with ref) and used reflinks to pull the data & formating but later forgot to remove ref tags which caused the issue. I'm really sorry for the mess it caused due to simple ovelook (that too twice). Thanks for bearing with me.--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haidertcs 08:20, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"nonexisting / deleted file removed"[edit]

Hey guy could you please refrain from doing this within the first ten minutes of a page being created, while I'm actually uploading the images linked to from the new article? It's been driving me nuts tonight, I just undid the third one... doesn't it show in your notifications? PhnomPencil (talk) 12:39, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@PhnomPencil Sorry, in the heat of the moment... Some users have been working hard on Category:Articles with missing files. Please upload images before creating the article. If you had explained what was going on in the edit summary, I would have understood your revert. Thanks--Frze > talk 15:25, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anomiebot[edit]

Does the best job at rescuing orphaned cites -- I find it much better than trying to do so manually (the Villatte article). Cheers. Collect (talk) 12:42, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Abalone-molecular-modelling-300.png[edit]

Hi,

You removed the link to the file Abalone-molecular-modelling-300.png from the page Abalone (molecular mechanics). I see that the file is really gone. However, it is not clear what happened. This file has been here for the years. Is on Wiki some mechanism that shows which files were removed and why? P99am (talk) 14:42, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@P99am see > [16] please, --Frze > talk 15:18, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

John Lithgow[edit]

Hi Frze,

Thank you for fixing the edit and cleaning up after me. Have a good day! :)

--Qwerty Binary (talk) 16:03, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Aryana Sayeed[edit]

Hey, Why did you revert it? I worked really hard on the article and have provided sources. Now its reverted and its full of mistakes and sentences that stop half way through. I undid the edit. Just wanted to let you know. Thanks. PS if you have any comments to make my Wikipedia skills better please tell me :) User:Lailasamadi 12:09, 21 January 2014

@Lailasamadi Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did with this edit to Aryana Sayeed. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article.  —Josh3580talk/hist 23:28, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did with this edit to Aryana Sayeed. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.  —Josh3580talk/hist 23:30, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon

Your recent editing history at Aryana Sayeed shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. --Frze > talk 12:55, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello[edit]

Hi, thank you dear i want to change my username to "Saul" again thanks goodbye. --شاول (talk) 19:24, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

شاول|@Saul It's my pleasure > [17] --Frze > talk 19:33, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - Public Holidays in the USA[edit]

Hi. Thank you for catching that error. I think its corrected now. Let me know if there are further issues. --Rehsjntdz (talk) 01:33, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi please stop deleting my pictures they are perfectly fine.

Chris19231 and "his" images[edit]

Interesting. Something is not right on the article Open Europe. Either there is a cabal of very committed users uninterested in other topics, or there's some sockpuppeting going on. Hopefully, more constructive engagement will be forthcoming, but I'd appreciate your experienced hand in keeping an eye on it. I'm not quite sure how to proceee. Peregrine981 (talk) 15:30, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Frze. You have new messages at Josh3580's talk page.
Message added 15:54, 22 January 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

 —Josh3580talk/hist 15:54, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Chris19231 and "his" images[edit]

Chris19231: File:Open Europe's London Office.jpg is not his own as he wrote but File:FaithHouseTuftonStreet.jpeg. File:William Hague Open Europe.jpg and File:George Osborne Open Europe speech.jpg are not his own but copyright violation. I added the source of this images in commons and requested speedy deletion. This images were always deleted see [18] [19]. It seems to me me that Chris19231 should be warned and / or blocked. Thanks --— Preceding unsigned comment added by Frze (talkcontribs) 15:01, 22 January 2014‎

Frze, you may want to make a report at WP:AN/I, if you feel that an administrator needs to intervene. I am not an administrator, just a rollbacker like yourself. I agree that the user seems to be inclined to make unconstructive/misrepresentative contributions, but there really is no action that I can take myself. Again, a submission to WP:AN/I would probably be your best bet. Be careful with the name-calling, though. While your comments are not incorrect, they could be construed as personal attacks, and I would hate for the WP:BOOMERANG to get you, as I know you are trying to do the right thing. —Josh3580talk/hist 15:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - I need to calm down. Best wishes to you --Frze > talk 15:57, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Altered speedy deletion rationale: John Clifton Wright (author,sailor)[edit]

Hello Frze, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I deleted John Clifton Wright (author,sailor), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided. The speedy deletion criteria are extremely narrow and specific, and the process is more effective if the correct criterion is used. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Cindy(talk) 11:06, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Donald W. Thomas (reverted edit)[edit]

Hello there! Could you please head over to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Donald_W._Thomas -- so we can discuss the revert a little bit? Thanks in advance! Yours, 24.212.76.4 (talk) 16:32, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your blanket revert intervention [20] is not helpful, and disregards the process of revising that page. Please explain at the article's Talk page, or simply undo. Qexigator (talk) 19:06, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Qexigator Please read my edit summary: Reverted to revision 592742678 by Fconaway (talk): Rev AGF >> if you do this >> clean up references section. (TW) Take a look at what you left, there are 30 cite errors you have to clean up if you revert, it's your turn, not mines. Thanks --Frze > talk 21:13, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that shows it. Qexigator (talk) 21:21, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Might I suggest on controversial articles that are in the process of substantial revision that you post a message to the talk page before doing a revert like that. This article in particular is being worked out with a great deal of strained consensus and multiple editors are contributing. Someone (like myself) would have been willing to clean up the references after substantial content editing has occured. - - MrBill3 (talk) 04:42, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@MrBill3: Sorry - a revert and a notification to the user who caused the cite errors is the easiest and simplest way to clean up these problems, because some users have been working hard on Category:Pages with citation errors. It took Qexigator about an hour and six edits to fix the errors. --Frze > talk 07:46, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is it too much to ask you to explain what is the relevance of some users have been working hard on Category:Pages with citation errors, and why that can allow disregard of the work of others mentioned by MrBill3. You evidently made a knee-jerk revert without bothering to consider the current discussion and proposals on the article's Talk page. That was not helpful. I guess others such as MrBill could have resolved the problem in a jiffy. Had you allowed for that? Qexigator (talk) 08:26, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"You evidently made a knee-jerk revert without bothering to consider the current discussion and proposals on the article's Talk page." -- same thing applies to the edit referred to in the just-above section, a discussion request which you seem to have ignored. I am failing to see how such behavior is aiming at improving Wikipedia. 24.212.76.4 (talk) 16:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, this is your page, and you can respond or not as you wish, but I cannot see that as a response to my last here. But let us leave it at that and get on with the wiki- and other work we have to do. Cheers! Qexigator (talk) 17:19, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind dealing with the red image in ‎In vitro meat? I left a message for the editor who reverted me and I do not want to get into an edit war. Also, I hope you're following any developments at Wikipedia:Bot requests#MissingFilesBot > see Category:Articles with missing files. Thanks for your help! - tucoxn\talk 05:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)  Done[reply]

I'd like to add North American University and Cem Yıldırım to that request, although I didn't contact the editors. That editor's two images in North American University article were just deleted today: 30 January 2014. The other one hasn't figured out how to upload images yet and it's a little late, here, for me to explain it now. Thanks again. - tucoxn\talk 07:33, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
North American University: added {{speedydelete| copyright violation }} to image
Cem Yıldırım  Done --Frze > talk 07:59, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

February 2014[edit]

[21]

I noticed you removed a citation on the above page. It seems like there's nothing wrong with a couple extra citations, so I was just wondering why? -- 21:40, 9 February 2014‎ User:Pluma
There are no refs requested on this page. Best wishes. --Frze > talk 21:44, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The edits were made to this page because of the defintion of 'sandbox.' the grand theft auto titles are by definition not sandbox games and should be characterized accordingly. --Swagger9000 (talk) 22:23, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Swagger9000: You should also take a look at the correct layout. Sorry here was the mistake. --Frze > talk 22:56, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Green Room[edit]

[22]

Hi, That picture that you removed was giving me trouble and I left it up in hopes that someone would know how to fix it. The picture appears on the Italian version of the page but I could not get it to appear on the english version. Do you know how to fix it? --66.212.71.78 (talk) 02:11, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Answer: User talk:66.212.71.78#Italian Copyrights --Frze > talk 03:01, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Hello, I'm GoneIn60. I noticed that you recently removed some content from The Beach at Adventure Landing without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry: I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! GoneIn60 (talk) 07:45, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of edit warring, discuss the matter with me or on the article's talk page. I did a partial revert this time, which kept the logo intact and fixed the other red items. When you restored a previous version of the article, you undid valid changes in the process. --GoneIn60 (talk) 07:59, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Indira[edit]

Why are you repeatedly restoring the wrong date of the Emergency proclamation?!—indopug (talk) 08:21, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I would be grateful if you could stop removing my factually correct edit of Leanne Brown (Musician) and undo you recent edit. There is no copyright violation of me including text onto Wikipedia that I as her legal representative have written. I am the copyright owner of all my own works and the information is factually accurate and authorised by the individual concerned. Simply replacing this to a link for one of her projects is not a true representation of the artist and neglects her other works. Leanne is an individual in her own right and you have no right denying a true representation of her achievements. I will look forward to your amendments. Please feel free to contact me directly if you want to discuss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andington (talkcontribs) 13:11, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I figured someone would revert my changes without actually reading them or did you? Sure enough, you did not bother to leave a reason on the talk page of the game director's page whom I edited. Pay attention in the future. Too many lazy people on wikipedia.

Majinsnake (talk) 15:38, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies on blowing up at you. I needed time to think. I was just steamed because I had numerous people change my contributions, yet I am sure their valid. Take care. Regards
Majinsnake (talk) 16:54, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]