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Speedy deletion nomination of Forum of Incident Response and Security Teams
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- Diannaa, the history looks a bit confused but I think the above notice should go to Shrekts. Schwede66 00:48, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry but the page was tagged as copyvio before Shrekts performed any edits. The material you used to create the article was copied from https://www.first.org/about. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:51, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't create this! J947(c) 19:44, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry but the page was tagged as copyvio before Shrekts performed any edits. The material you used to create the article was copied from https://www.first.org/about. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:51, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
13:58:01, 9 April 2017 review of submission by Bfistein
Hi there,
Just edited the sources in the above article. I added several objective third-party articles and removed the Wikipedia reference. However, the reflist is not refreshing for some reason. Hopefully this will make the sources more reliable.
Optional RfA candidate poll rating
Just wanted to let you know that the bug where your new poll comments went up to the top of the page just got fixed - sorry for missing that :) Enterprisey (talk!) 20:15, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Enterprisey: Thanks; a 'preview' option would be great (and perhaps a bigger text field as well). J947(c) 20:17, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Relisting problems(2)...
When you are relisting an AfD nomination, please remember to remove the nomination from the original log per WP:RELIST.All the AFD-s you relisted today suffer from the same error.Cheers!Winged Blades Godric 16:22, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
A better version
Consider using this version. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Okay. J947(c) 22:48, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Aside, you put back some items. Doesn't the full stop mean they didn't pass afd vetting? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:06, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, but those candidates haven't be evaluated on other standards so they can look at their goals. J947(c) 03:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- Do you mean the table is there to show the users what they need to be vetted completely and take the poll? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Relisting
Hi,
I just wanted to ask you about your AfD relisting method. I noticed that you managed to relist something like thirty discussions in five minutes this afternoon, seemingly indiscriminately, so I was just wondering how you normally arrive at the decision to relist any given debate. In particular, uncontested nominations with no comments or only comments endorsing the nominator's proposed action should usually be left to admins, since we have a mandate to treat these like expired PRODs and close them as "soft delete". This is even more pertinent if the debate has been relisted with no additional comments. A few examples here, here, here, and here. There's a good chance these entries could have all been closed instead of clogging up another day's log for the next week. I'm also seeing some more lengthy discussions mixed in, like these two, which might be difficult to properly assess at a rate of 8 per minute. Any light you can shed on the matter would be appreciated. Regards, – Juliancolton | Talk 00:44, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Juliancolton: I'm first addressing the soft deletion point you made. I knew about the recent policy when I started AfD closing/relisting back in March. At first I didn't relist the soft delete-eligible ones even though others (e.g. Kurykh and Northamerica1000, who are both admins) did. Then I started doing it. Note: I do examine arguments, though minimally, and the reason I'm so quick at it is that I use User:Evad37/XfDcloser. I'll come to your other points later. J947(c) 01:55, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. Kurykh and Northamerica are both admins, so it's up to their discretion whether to enact soft deletions. There are some cases where NAC relists of SOFTDELETE-eligible nominations are appropriate, but I think in general it might be a good idea to leave those sorts of AfDs to admins. That way, at least we'll still have the soft deleting option, even if we decide not to use it. – Juliancolton | Talk 02:34, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Juliancolton: I haven't seen a single case when either of them have enacted SOFTDELETE. J947(c) 02:44, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- But again, that's their choice to make as reviewing admins. Many admins – I'd say most – do, sometimes, opt for soft deletion where appropriate. If non-admins relist all low- or no-participation nominations immediately after seven days are up, then admins no longer have the choice and the whole no quorum policy is obsolete. See what I mean? – Juliancolton | Talk 02:51, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Juliancolton: I haven't seen a single case when either of them have enacted SOFTDELETE. J947(c) 02:44, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Doglan
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- Note: I just moved it to draft and am not the actual creator of it. J947(c) 18:42, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
01:46:06, 21 May 2017 review of submission by 47.185.93.163
I believe this actress has proven herself to be of notability based on her online presence and official cast announcements from notable companies. She has also proven to be of high demand in the convention scene.[1] In addition, Morgan has noteworthy roles in many popular anime, video game and movie titles associated with notable companies such as Funimation, Hi-Rez Studios, ScrewAttack and GalaxyTrail[2][3][4][5][6][7] I believe this should also be taken into consideration. She is in big enough titles to be of notability, despite her only being in the industry since 2015. Thank you for your time.
- Sorry, but none of those sources are considered to be reliable. J947(c) 18:43, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ http://animecons.com/guests/bio.shtml/5672/Morgan_Berry
- ^ "My Hero Academia Cast Announcement". Funimation. April 27, 2016.
- ^ "Funimation Announces Cheer Boys English Dub Cast and Love Live! Sunshine English Dub Director". Crunchyroll. August 3, 2016.
- ^ https://www.funimation.com/blog/2015/03/06/hyperdimension-neptunia-cast-and-release-date/
- ^ https://www.funimation.com/blog/2016/08/13/otakon-2016-announcement-overlord-home-video-release-and-english-cast-announcement/
- ^ https://twitter.com/TheMorganBerry/status/796524018560077824
- ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39NZNqI9sbs
Thank you
Dear J947, Many thanks for your kind comments and endorsement of my proposal at Wikipedia: Village pump (Proposals). I am well aware that as this proposal is still in its infancy, we shall just have to see what happens in the face of what other Wikipedians might say. Once again, thank you for your comments. Vorbee (talk) 19:38, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Vorbee for telling this to me. Much appreciated. J947(c) 19:41, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
(with namespace 0)
What is "(with namespace 0)" ? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
- Namespace 0 is the main (article) namespace. You just need to replace it in the url from '?namespace=4' to '?namespace=0'. J947(c) (m) 03:05, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
- I have no idea what all that means, and I am pretty sure many visitors to that page won't either. :) Maybe we ought to just go with simple terms. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:11, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, of course. I am not sure how to phrase it, though. J947(c) (m) 03:15, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
- Me neither. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:21, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
A future administrator
You have all the hallmarks of a future admin. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:07, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
- Anna Frodesiak, just my thoughts. J947, get a couple of years under your belt first, though; that seems to be the time that many consider as necessary before this becomes an acceptable step. Schwede66 19:20, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Use those couple of years to do what the advice pages say, and I think you'll become a dandy admin. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:57, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Kutra Unarvu
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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Kutra Unarvu requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Seraphim System (talk) 19:47, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
- Not me. J947(c) (m) 19:57, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
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Ways to improve Pondok Ranji railway station
Hi, I'm Boleyn. J947, thanks for creating Pondok Ranji railway station!
I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Please add sources.
The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.
Boleyn (talk) 20:40, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
- Boleyn, the above note needs to be posted at Azurevanilla ash. I have had a look at the history as J947 wouldn't create unreferenced articles. Schwede66 03:54, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
RfA
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Relistings
Hi, I noticed you relisted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spindrift (company) a second time, despite the fact that it had no opposition to deletion, and that you had recently done this on other AfDs as well. I'd like to echo Juliancolton's earlier comments. WP:NOQUORUM was relatively recently updated to make it more clear that SOFTDELETE by an admin was an acceptable outcome. BU Rob13's essay WP:Relist bias also makes some very good points here. Relisting AfDs a second time should normally only rarely be done, especially when there are viable other outcomes to the discussion. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:03, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- Not to pile on, but I'd like to say something a bit stronger than TonyBallioni. The updates to WP:NOQUORUM that I championed make clear that evaluating an uncontested AfD nomination as a PROD is expected, with exceptions only acceptable when an administrator believes the AfD is likely controversial (or for a few other narrow situations). Because the expected outcome is deletion, it is not appropriate for non-admins to relist these, which is one of the reasons the guideline explicitly mentions administrators rather than closers. I'm a huge advocate for non-admins helping out everywhere they can, but please leave the possibly-delete outcomes at AfD to an admin, mostly for the reasons I state at WP:Relist bias. You may find that you can contribute more productively as a closer at WP:TFD (where non-admins can close as delete in all cases) or WP:CFD (where non-admins can close as delete so long as they can carry out the removal of categories from pages; see WP:AWB for the likely method of doing this and feel free to email me for copies of the AWB scripts I used at one time when I closed CfDs). If you need help getting started at either process, feel free to let me know; I'd be happy to direct your towards good resources or assist you in any way I can. WP:ANRFC can always use non-admin closers as well. ~ Rob13Talk 21:51, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- You should also message MRD2014 about this as he also did controversial relistings (to some extent worse than me because he relists AfDs with a !vote apart from a nom the first time). Also, the outcome would practically always be the same, as other regular participants will just do the same thing. J947(c) (m) 01:50, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- Regarding relists, I usually relist if there is only one !vote aside from the nom, usually unless it has been already relisted. I don't consider one !vote to be consensus. WP:RELIST says
—MRD2014 Talk • Edits • Help! 01:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)However, if at the end of the initial seven-day period, the discussion has only a few participants (including the nominator), and/or it seems to be lacking arguments based on policy, it may be appropriate for the closer to relist it, to solicit further discussion to determine consensus.
- Then you should also read the revamped WP:NOQUORUM, MRD2014, which makes clear that you should not make such a relist when there is no-one opposing deletion in almost all cases. Also, see note #2 in WP:RELIST, which references NOQUORUM. ~ Rob13Talk 02:15, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- he nomination statement counts as one delete vote (that's why the article is at AfD in the first place. It would take at least two clearly policy/guideline compliant 'keep' votes to close as 'keep'. This does not inclued 'I like it' votes which usually come from the article creator. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:25, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: I have read it and will take that into consideration when relisting future AfD discussions. Should a discussion be closed if there are no !votes and it hasn't been relisted, assuming it hadn't been PRODed in the past? —MRD2014 Talk • Edits • Help! 02:28, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- @MRD2014: The short answer is "Usually, yes". The long answer is "It depends". It definitely should be treated as a PROD. Almost always, this means soft deletion (where anyone can request restoration at WP:REFUND). Sometimes, this means relisting after doing some WP:BEFORE research (or !voting) because the topic appears notable. Sometimes, it means relisting because the argument given by the nom is patently awful (e.g. comprised only of arguments to avoid, etc). These are rare exceptions rather than the norm, though. Because deletion is solidly on the table, these decisions should be made by admins. `~ Rob13Talk 02:34, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. —MRD2014 Talk • Edits • Help! 02:39, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- @MRD2014: The short answer is "Usually, yes". The long answer is "It depends". It definitely should be treated as a PROD. Almost always, this means soft deletion (where anyone can request restoration at WP:REFUND). Sometimes, this means relisting after doing some WP:BEFORE research (or !voting) because the topic appears notable. Sometimes, it means relisting because the argument given by the nom is patently awful (e.g. comprised only of arguments to avoid, etc). These are rare exceptions rather than the norm, though. Because deletion is solidly on the table, these decisions should be made by admins. `~ Rob13Talk 02:34, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: I have read it and will take that into consideration when relisting future AfD discussions. Should a discussion be closed if there are no !votes and it hasn't been relisted, assuming it hadn't been PRODed in the past? —MRD2014 Talk • Edits • Help! 02:28, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- Regarding relists, I usually relist if there is only one !vote aside from the nom, usually unless it has been already relisted. I don't consider one !vote to be consensus. WP:RELIST says
- You should also message MRD2014 about this as he also did controversial relistings (to some extent worse than me because he relists AfDs with a !vote apart from a nom the first time). Also, the outcome would practically always be the same, as other regular participants will just do the same thing. J947(c) (m) 01:50, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Non-admin closure of controversial topic
Hello, J947. I see that yesterday you made a non-administrative closing of WP:Articles for deletion/Sumana Secondary School. But the guidance for non-administrative closings (WP:NAC) tells us that they should be done only "absent any contentious debate" (see item 1 under "Appropriate closures"). This guidance is repeated at item 2 of "Inappropriate closures" and again at item 1 of "Pitfalls to avoid". Would you please explain why you thought it appropriate to make a non-admin closing of this discussion, given that there certainly was debate over the applicability of pre-RfC consensus? I look forward to hearing your response. NewYorkActuary (talk) 23:29, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- I've reverted this close because it does not appear to weigh the arguments based on policies and guidelines, as required when determining consensus. You can see my relisting statement for more detail. ~ Rob13Talk 02:34, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: Did you mean 'secondary schools are not presumed notable automatically' instead of 'secondary schools are not presumed notable'? J947(c) (m) 03:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- No, I meant what I said. They are not presumed notable. That's not to say they're presumed not notable, which would be quite different. They just don't have any presumption of notability such as NFL players do (see WP:NGRIDIRON). There's no policy or guideline which states that "this is a secondary school" is an argument for keeping an article. ~ Rob13Talk 04:08, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- Which is precisely what I was trying to say in my rebuttals to the !keeps, with a link to the exact same RfC BU Rob13 cited in his relisting comment. —Jeremy v^_^v Bori! 04:31, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- No, I meant what I said. They are not presumed notable. That's not to say they're presumed not notable, which would be quite different. They just don't have any presumption of notability such as NFL players do (see WP:NGRIDIRON). There's no policy or guideline which states that "this is a secondary school" is an argument for keeping an article. ~ Rob13Talk 04:08, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: Did you mean 'secondary schools are not presumed notable automatically' instead of 'secondary schools are not presumed notable'? J947(c) (m) 03:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
NAC closure
Hi. When closing as 'redirect', please remember to include the appropriate redirect template so that the respective categories are updated. See this example. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:20, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll remember that. J947(c) (m) 03:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2017).
- Nakon • Scott
- Sverdrup • Thespian • Elockid • James086 • Ffirehorse • Celestianpower • Boing! said Zebedee
- ACTRIAL, a research experiment that restricts article creation to autoconfirmed users, will begin on September 7. It will run for six months. You can learn more about the research specifics at meta:Research:Autoconfirmed article creation trial, while Wikipedia talk:Autoconfirmed article creation trial is probably the best venue for general discussion.
- Following an RfC, WP:G13 speedy deletion criterion now applies to any page in the draftspace that has not been edited in six months. There is a bot-generated report, updated daily, to help identify potentially qualifying drafts that have not been submitted through articles for creation.
- You will now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device that has logged into your account before, you will be notified after five failed attempts. You can also set in your preferences to get an email when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address, which may be encouraged for admins and accounts with sensitive permissions.
- Syntax highlighting is now available as a beta feature (more info). This may assist administrators and template editors when dealing with intricate syntax of high-risk templates and system messages.
- In your notification preferences, you can now block specific users from pinging you. This functionality will soon be available for Special:EmailUser as well.
- Applications for CheckUser and Oversight are being accepted by the Arbitration Committee until September 12. Community discussion of the candidates will begin on September 18.
Speedy deletion nomination of Kaushal dimri
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A tag has been placed on Kaushal dimri requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a real person or group of people, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. —usernamekiran(talk) 04:01, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
- Not me. J947(c) (m) 04:03, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
The Signpost: 6 September 2017
- From the editors: What happened at Wikimania?
- News and notes: Basselpedia; WMF Board of Trustees appointments
- Featured content: Warfighters and their tools or trees and butterflies
- Traffic report: A fortnight of conflicts
- Special report: Biomedical content, and some thoughts on its future
- Recent research: Discussion summarization; Twitter bots tracking government edits; extracting trivia from Wikipedia
- WikiProject report: WikiProject YouTube
- Technology report: Latest tech news
- Wikicup: 2017 WikiCup round 4 wrap-up
- Humour: Bots
12:57:39, 6 September 2017 review of submission by Bws7
The individual who is the subject of this article was the first African American to graduate from Stanford University Medical School, the first African American head of a department at a Harvard-affiliated teaching hospital, the first African American professor of medicine at Yale University, a professor at Harvard Medical School and the Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences and Technology, and a Vietnam veteran. All of which is referenced from reliable sources. Yet he doesn't meet the "notability" requirement. And Wikipedia has an article on toilet paper orientation. Well done.
- @Bws7: He may well meet the notability requirements. But you have to show that he meets it, through significant coverage in reliable sources. Right now that requirement is not met. I hope this clarify the situation for you. J947(c) (m) 05:14, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- It does not. The sources I've cited are from Brown University, Harvard University, the American Academy of Orthpaedic Surgeons, and the New York Times. I'm not sure which of those fails to meet the standard of "reliable". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bws7 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- @Bws7: Firstly, reliable sources are almost always newspapers. Secondly, the Harvard University source is just a fact-displaying profile. Thirdly, the Brown Alumni Magazine may well be okay for notability, but notability requires multiple sources. Fourthly, the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons source is pretty much a primary source. Fourthly, while the NYT is very reliable and he is there, normally at least 3 (semi-) reliable sources would be safe to have an article like this. Also, please sign your comments. J947(c) (m) 18:20, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- It does not. The sources I've cited are from Brown University, Harvard University, the American Academy of Orthpaedic Surgeons, and the New York Times. I'm not sure which of those fails to meet the standard of "reliable". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bws7 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Trump Orb relisting
Hi, I noticed you relisted the AFD discussion for the Trump Orb article, with the given reason being to "generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus". However, consensus seems to be overwhelmingly favorable towards deletion, while the cases being made for keeping have not responded to further scrutiny. Could you explain why you decided to relist it? Mr. Anon515 21:27, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
- @Mr. Anon515: My relisting was because:
- It is a controversial topic,
- A previous discussion resulted in 'no consensus',
- There was not a clear consensus.
- I hope that my answer satisfies you. J947(c) (m) 03:14, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
New Page Reviewer granted
Hello J947. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers
" user group, allowing you to review new pages and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or in some cases, tag them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is a vital function for policing the quality of the encylopedia, if you have not already done so, you must read the new tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the various deletion criteria. If you need more help or wish to discuss the process, please join or start a thread at page reviewer talk.
- URGENT: Please consider helping get the huge backlog down to a manageable number of pages as soon as possible.
- Be nice to new users - they are often not aware of doing anything wrong.
- You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted - be formal and polite in your approach to them too, even if they are not.
- Don't review a page if you are not sure what to do. Just leave it for another reviewer.
- Remember that quality is quintessential to good patrolling. Take your time to patrol each article, there is no rush. Use the message feature and offer basic advice.
The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In case of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, the right can be revoked at any time by an administrator. Alex ShihTalk 08:31, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- After what J tried to do at 2017 Puebla earthquake I would seriously reconsider this right. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 20:12, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- Everybody slips up once in a while. Look for patterns, not for singular incidents. Schwede66 00:30, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
13:05:26, 21 September 2017 review of submission by AlfredGoodach
Hi J947,
You reviewed the "Papamitrou" page and declined it due to not having enough notability. Can you give me some pointers so I can go ahead and make the appropriate changes? You also said that references to Wikipedia are not allowed so, I can fix that.
I am interested because this is the second time that this page was declined. This producer is signed to a Record Label that is part of Atlantic Records (Dreamchasers) and also has one song that made id to the Billboard 200. Also, on the Album named: "Wins and Losses" by Meek Mill that was released on 7/21/17, this producer has as 3 songs and the Album debuted No 3 on the Billboard 200..and it is still on the Billboard.
I read that this is a requirement for notability by an artist which he satisfied.
This is the article from Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)) that outlines in the "Criteria for musicians and ensembles" section the requirements in order to be notable. It also mentions that: "Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria".
Since he is a instrumentalist (creating music for hip hop artists) wouldn't he meet at least criteria #2 on this list?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Alfred.
- @AlfredGoodach: Sorry, but criteria #2 means a single or album actually made by that artist. Also here are the main tip:
- You don't need heaps and heaps of references for an article to be notable, you only need 2 that are reliable, secondary, and independent of the subject.
- I hope my answer satisfies you. J947(c) (m) 18:59, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
Good reviewer AlfredGoodach (talk) 19:12, 21 September 2017 (UTC) |
Thanks! J947(c) (m) 19:14, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Mass AfD
Sorry for stuffing up the mass AfD nomination, and thanks for tidying up after me. I've had another read of the procedure and have spotted where I stuffed up. Schwede66 09:49, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
The Signpost: 25 September 2017
- News and notes: Chapter updates; ACTRIAL
- Humour: Chickenz
- Recent research: Wikipedia articles vs. concepts; Wikipedia usage in Europe
- Technology report: Flow restarted; Wikidata connection notifications
- Gallery: Chicken mania
- Traffic report: Fights and frights
- Featured content: Flying high
G13
I would like to draw your attention to Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G13_clarification--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:04, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- I apologize for putting on the spot. Initially, I thought I was wrong and I had simply missed the scope of the change. However, I was doing some work with my own user space drafts and realized I have some over six months old that I prefer not to lose and I wondered if they were going to fall under the knife. That's what encouraged me to decide to ask for clarification. In retrospect, I should've come to you privately and discussed first. Thanks for pitching in and helping to clean out some of these drafts.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:49, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Untitled
Hi J947, thank you for your welcome. I've run into a snag, as I am being trolled by 'TheMovieGuy' re my work on Lost in space and I was hoping you could check this out for me. This guy doesn't make edits, he completely removes my entire body of work on the page This last time he even threatened the page with deletion if I reverted my work back, which I have done. I do need to add some citations and am currently compiling my sources but I am wondering who 'TheMovieGuy' thinks he is. My work on Lost in Space 2018 has been commended by people involved in the production, and many others. Any advice would be much appreciated Heres the revision history link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lost_in_Space_(2018_TV_series)&action=history Cheers RokkoRokkoRokkanno (talk) 19:38, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- @RokkoRokkoRokkanno: My advice is: Communicate with TheMovieGuy and try to reach a consensus between you. Hope this helps, J947(c) (m) 19:52, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- Also, please don't attack other editors. J947(c) (m) 19:57, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
The speedy deletion tag was removed from this page by its author, but they at least added some content. I tagged it some for improvement, but it may still be appropriate to propose for deletion, I'm not sure. Phil (talk) 20:27, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi J947,
Not sure if this guy is open for discussion You removed the deletion notice and then he put it back again. I will add citations ASAP. Question - A lot of the information is derived from Cast and Crew social media. How would I cite this - Links to the source info? RokkoRokkoRokkanno (talk) 00:31, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2017).
- Boing! said Zebedee • Ansh666 • Ad Orientem
- Tonywalton • AmiDaniel • Silence • BanyanTree • Magioladitis • Vanamonde93 • Mr.Z-man • Jdavidb • Jakec • Ram-Man • Yelyos • Kurt Shaped Box
- Following a successful proposal to create it, a new user right called "edit filter helper" is now assignable and revocable by administrators. The right allows non-administrators to view the details of private edit filters, but not to edit them.
- Following a discussion about mass-application of ECP and how the need for logging and other details of an evolving consensus may have been missed by some administrators, a rough guide to extended confirmed protection has been written. This information page describes how the extended-confirmed aspects of the protection policy are currently being applied by administrators.
- You can now search for IP ranges at Special:Contributions. Some log pages and Special:DeletedContributions are not yet supported. Wildcards (e.g. 192.168.0.*) are also not supported, but the popular contribsrange gadget will continue to work.
- Community consultation on the 2017 candidates for CheckUser and Oversight has concluded. The Arbitration Committee will appoint successful candidates by October 11.
- A request for comment is open regarding the structure, rules, and procedures of the December 2017 Arbitration Committee election, and how to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.