User talk:Lova Falk/Archive 2

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Hello, per your request, I've granted you Rollback rights. You seem to know what you're doing, but you might find Twinkle helpful for issuing warnings. A few things to remember:

  • Rollback is only for blatant vandalism (though you can revert your own edits if you screw up)
  • Rollback doesn't give you any advanced status
  • Misuse of it can lead to its removal by any admin
  • You can test Rollback at Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback
  • To get a feel for how the tool works, have a read of WP:RBK and Help:Reverting

If you have any questions, just let me know. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:03, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Keep up the good work![edit]

Just looking over the work you're doing on a range of psychology articles. Great stuff! There aren't nearly enough people who know about psychology on Wikipedia. Best (informal) wishes to you, MartinPoulter (talk) 16:47, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Ahhh thank you!! Lova Falk talk 16:48, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Good sourcing on your latest edit on Flynn effect.[edit]

Hi, Lova, I was glad to see the edit you did just now on the Flynn effect article. That section still needs more work, but that corrects an unsourced statement. You were kind to cheer on my efforts to post more sources on several of the psychology articles. Reading your talk page here, I see you are familiar with the literature, and I will appreciate your comments on the sources I post once I get done Wikipedia formatting them and posting them to various articles to which they relate. I will keep an eye on your edits, and I hope you will keep an eye on mine, in the interest of better V and better NPOV. I will appreciate the opportunity to learn from you. WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 17:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you and I will certainly keep an eye on you! Lova Falk talk 17:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


Nice to have a new contributor on Wiki psychology articles. It is a generally neglected part of Wikipedia and could do with quite a lot of work. You might like to list your name as a psychology contributor at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Psychology#Participants. My user page User:Penbat lists the psychology articles I am most interested in. If you are interested in working on any of those articles you may be interested in my views of how they can be improved. --Penbat (talk) 18:29, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for solving my dilemna[edit]

I couldn't think of a good title for my vigilance article. You've done that, and made some fine edits as well. Thanks for all your efforts in support of Wikipedia.
Kind Regards,

John Ironwraith —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:59, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Ah thank you too! Lova Falk talk 05:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Invite to join Wiki Med[edit]

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If you are interested in medicine-related themes, you may want to check out the Medicine Portal.
If you are interested in contributing more to medical related articles you may want to join WikiProject Medicine (signup here).

I have seen that you edit articles which have a medical theme and thought that you might be interested in joining and watch listing the Wiki Med project. :)--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 00:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your invitation! However, I'm not joining any projects just now - but I might consider it later. :) Lova Falk talk 06:32, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Adoption article[edit]

Thanks for all your work today on the adoption article.Tobit2 (talk) 01:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome! Lova Falk talk 08:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


:D Well, who knows nowadays.  – Tommy [message] 18:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


Many thanks for welcome-in!Jacobisq (talk) 02:21, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, you're really welcome! :) Lova Falk talk 06:10, 10 July 2010 (UTC)


I've endorsed a move you suggested in July last year here. I hope everything is OK. I don't think we've interacted but I see your footprints most of the places I wander. You do good work. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 14:54, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! I had completely forgotten about it, but nice to read my suggestion was carried out. Also your name is all over my watchlist... :) Lova Falk talk 18:53, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Nice to see you popping up again on my watchlist. Regarding this, I'd be happy to strip all examples except a few with good sources, such as menopause, out of that paragraph. I'll keep an eye out for something supporting bereavement - there must be something on that. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 01:18, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Actually, the phrase "life events that may [...] cause depression" is not the way most of us in Sweden think about it. A lot of us think in lines of the "stress-vulnerability model", expanded with protective factors. So you have a person with their vulnerabilities and protective characteristics. When stressful life events happen, out of the combination of the three of them symptoms or mental illness can arise.
Also, now that I start thinking of it, almost any kind of life event can "cause" a depression. I have heard of people getting depressed after their first great success, after getting married and having a couple of kids - is this all there is...? But then again, certain life events certainly put you in a greater risk for developing depression than other ones... Lova Falk talk 07:08, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure what's best for that paragraph. All I want to convey is that there are developmental, psychosocial and biographical influences on mood. I thought "Life events" was a broad enough term to cover those.
You're right that the article should mention predisposition. I'm a novice in this field. Do you know what it should say? --Anthonyhcole (talk) 07:55, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
I think "Life events" is a good term, because, of course, stressful life events do play a role in depression. I found this article that discusses life events and depression. Maybe you can find something there? Lova Falk talk 08:08, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
That should do it. Thanks. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 08:25, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


Lova, I did that edit to the page to agitate one of my friends, if you would permit it to stay up for a couple day's I would take it down after the joke has run it's course. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:45, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is certainly extremely funny to have your friend listed in an article about imbeciles... However, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a place for jokes, so no, if I see this joke again, I'll remove it again. And I send you a warning telling you to stop vandalizing. Lova Falk talk 18:46, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Amino acid[edit]

You encouraged my edits on other pages, so, I hope you don't mind me coming here to ask for HELP! Or "help".

The lede for amino acid-an important article-was a mess. It was ambiguous on distinctions it mentioned, sloppy on which terms it used, slipped between uses without being clear, and missed important areas of the subject which needed a mention. I explained obvious problems on the talk tab. (Many problems I didn't say there: not even slight mention of stereoisomers or that D-isomer amino acids can exist, no mention of non-protein roles, no clear explanation of fundamentals like categorisation, factually wrong-proteinogenic and standard are not synonymous in normal textbook use, no clear distinction of terms it constantly uses, no mention that non-protein amino acids exist-apparently the only important or existing amino acids worth mentioning are proteinogenic amino acids and then only in their protein roles, dreadful quality!)

I have done my best for now as a first go at making the approach more rigorous, complete, organised, but it's difficult. You commented on cites. I think I have done it this time. I added cites for chirality and other facts I had to add. If the information was there before but didn't need a cite, it should be acceptable that way now?

This is a difficult one, the most challenging I have tried. It should be a good starting point now for explaining the science without ambiguity. If you can fix anything about Wikis for me, will you? I didn't want to take out anything already included like the side-chain sizes even though I thought it looks better without. I cut some parts down. What do you think? James 173 James 173 (talk) 01:25, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi James, of course I am willing to help you. However, it is not easy because I don't know the first things about amino acids. When it comes to references, as you have found out, a lot of articles have a lot of text without proper references. My personal rule of thumb is, that if I come across text that I know is wrong and it isn't sourced, I change it, or remove it, even if I don't have a source. But it is always best to have a source, so often I take a tour on the net to see if I can find a source. But if I don't have the time or I don't find anything, I change it anyway - but only if I am sure that it is correct. In those cases it happens that I put {{cn}} (citation needed) behind my own text, and hope somebody else will fix the reference.
I don't know what you mean with your question if I can fix anything about Wikis for you. What do you mean? Lova Falk talk 09:13, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
The lede on amino acid but I understand (better to ask than make mistakes!), and thumbs up for the tips. James 173 (talk) 09:19, 9 September 2012 (UTC) James 173


I understand that about the caps now. Thanks. MrsCaptcha (talk) 20:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Lova Falk talk 17:36, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Fluid intelligence[edit]

Hi Lova,

A wikipedia user keeps reverting my changes on Fluid Intelligence where I cited several papers which do not support working memory improvements. Can I or more experienced user fix my changes until new scientific evidence arrives? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Runig (talkcontribs) 02:55, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Runig, I'll see what I can do! Lova Falk talk 16:26, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Latent Inhibition Talk Page[edit]

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Hello, I'm Lova Falk. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions to Talk: Latent inhibition because it didn't appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Lova Falk talk 09:24, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I would think that if one were to be of the opinion that a contribution to a talk page was not constructive, one would engage the the contributor in discourse to either clarify their concerns and perhaps rewrite their contribution if necessary, or of their own volition remove their contribution after agreeing with the perspective that their contribution was not constructive. Removing another's contribution without discussion seems to me very much outside what I understand the socio-ethical ethos of this encyclopedia. My contribution was not vandalism. It raised what I thought to be a reasonable question. It was, to my estimation no less constructive than a great many WP contributions I have read, and more constructive that many others I have encountered. I would like to specifically why you believe my contribution to be, in your estimation, unconstructive, and I wish to make understood that I take offense at your action.

Georgearnold23 (talk) 19:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

You are absolutely right. My sincere apologies! I don't know what I was thinking - I'm afraid I wasn't thinking at all. I now reverted this erroneous and stupid edit of mine. Thank you for telling me! With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 18:12, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Page rename[edit]

I want to rename a draft page, there's a "move" function, can you help?

From: "User:James 173/Scientific research into ADHD"

To: "User:James 173/DRAFT PAGE ONLY - Scientific research into ADHD"

Reason: For no mistake by a reader or myself, & watchlist.

Result: Title "blacklisted", no further explanation, "If you feel that this move is valid, please consider requesting the move first"

James James 173 (talk) 16:56, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi James! This was a new situation for me as well, but when I read the MediaWiki:Titleblacklist I guessed the problem could be the three words in Caps. So I changed that and - as you see, it worked! It looks like an awesome article by the way, it'll be very interesting to read it. Lova Falk talk 17:11, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


Lova Falk, I do not know how to 'talk' on Wikipedia and I hope this is a page where we are allowed to speak with you. I tried to add a differential diagnosis to the hypochondriosis page and obviously placed it inappropriately in the main body. I would like to submit a section regarding the differential diagnosis which causes gurgling sounds in adenomas placed in the lungs and colon with a connection to a specific spot in the nephron of the kidney along with applicable internal and external links. This will be my first attempt and as a layman in a field of expertise above my knowledge your approval will be helpful and necessary. Will you please e-mail me at (removed) so I may reply with a medical explanation?

Thank you in advance for your consideration, David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidlwinkler (talkcontribs) 08:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi David! This is absolutely the correct place where we can speak to each other. I will answer you here and not by mailing you.
I checked the edit you had made once more, and actually, I see that it is already more or less mentioned in the lead: "Even sounds produced by organs in the body, such as those made by the intestines, seem like symptoms of a very serious illness to patients dealing with hypochondriasis." This sentence also has a source. Now there are many physical problems that can make hypochondriacs think they have a serious illness, and in my opinion it is not constructive to name them all. For instance: a sore throat can make people with hypochondriasis believe they have cancer in their throats, palpitations can make them believe they have a heart attack, dizziness can make them believe they have a stroke, a flu can make them believe they are about to die, etc etc etc. I mean, there is almost no end to the list of conditions that they can misinterpret.
However, Wikipedia is a collective job, and my opinion is just one little opinion. If you want to put it back in, put it back in - but please add a source! I won't take it away, but somebody else might do that. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 18:10, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello Lova! Thank you for your response. Your additions to the various noises we make could all be related to my diagnoses as my problem resides under the field of metabology. I believe my diagnoses could also be the same for 100's of millions of fellow 'hypochondriacs' due to genetic dispositions in Ashkenazic Jews but since nano tumors and particles can only be seen with a 17+ tesla MRI versus the 2 or 3 tesla readily available they go undiagnosed. What almost earned me the diagnoses of somatic and hypochondriasis was that I swore I was severely ill and I, as a layman did my own research through Wikipedia and told the doctors that my problem was in my epithelium. It took me 4 months to be diagnosed with something that matched my varied lifelong symptoms and I 'googled my gurlges' because for the past 3 years exactly 90 minutes after I ingested sodium or phosphates the audible gurgling would begin. I went to the doctor in March and four months later my most esteemed and respected urologist gave me a diagnosis which went along with all of my somatic/hypochondriatic claims. I will also add that if it weren't for being my own advocate and paying attention to my scans and reports, I would not have known that my adrenal glands were clear. Because of that I made it into the allergist and was tested positive for bean allergies.

To cut to the chase, I've been diagnosed with Von_Hippel-Lindau(VHL) which is a rare autosomal dominant genetic condition affecting 1 in 36,000 people. My genetic disposition left me with bilateral low grade tumors in the proximal convoluted tubule in the nephron of my kidneys. Through the epithelial sodium channel it was connected to a polyp in my transverse colon. VHL is classified as a rare genetic multi-system disorder characterized by the abnormal growth of tumors and affects 1 in 36,000. Along with VHL. I also had a polyp or adenoma on my transverse colon which would gurgle audibly exactly 91 minutes after ingesting certain preservatives; specifically MSG, sodium and phosphates. This was removed during my first procedure by my GI.

In order to explain the how and why of this, I need to begin with the colon whose job is to absorb through diffusion; water and the above listed chemicals into the epithelium. The Epithelial Sodium Channel connects our colon, lungs, mouth and the nephron of our kidneys. In the nephron is the proximal convoluted tubule(ESC) whose job is to absorb and either distribute or excrete water, sodium, phosphates, glutamines(glutamate) and potassium. Sodium and glutamates together make MSG and affects millions and is explained under the second chart of the ESC.

Due to these masses having completely filled my kidneys at one point I filled my body with water and because I can sweat like no other I treated myself to an hour in the sauna at my local gym and was lucky to have poked some sort of hole in it and within 2 hours I lost 9.5 lbs. However, it still takes me days to write a few paragraphs even though I can speak without hassle. I will continue to work on this as I heal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidlwinkler (talkcontribs) 10:43, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Quite an ordeal! And I understand why you want to inform the public about this disease. However, you also write it is a rare condition and I still think it is too detailed to put this on the hypochondriasis page. Good luck with your health! Lova Falk talk 18:49, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Lova, To add this to the hypochondriasis page, I need to shorten it, but my health including my rambling issue needs to be handled first. I'll get to it one of these days. Consultation is next week, geneticist the following and I assume I'll be a case study and as a layman be able to give a large contribution to our race.

Stay healthy, David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidlwinkler (talkcontribs) 03:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

SIBO therapy[edit]

SIBO treatment generally involves antibiotics, but this is not always the case. Examples would be fermentable carbohydrate restricted diets, or even synthetic diets, gut motility modifiers. Surgical defects that have caused the overgrowth may warrant different treatment too. tepi (talk) 13:18, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tepi! I think it would be too much to have SIBO therapy both in medication and in alternative treatment, and because you say it generally involves antibiotics, I think it is in the right place. However, if you want to move it back to alternative medicine, please feel free to do so, I won't revert it. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 18:18, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Emotional self-regulation[edit]

Can you help? I don't know where to begin. Retitle the page "Understandings of emotional regulation from pub gossip and TV quiz shows" might be best.

I added a lede definition, boxes at the top for the reader, then think I broke it. James 173 (talk) 15:04, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your invitation, and I really liked your invitation. However, I think I rather agree with your opinion that it is too chaotic for my time.
On the talk page, I saw that a psych student at Kings would start editing the article. Not an easy job at all! I gave her/him a welcome template, and I plan to assist with the edits. Lova Falk talk 18:15, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikimedia Medicine[edit]

Hi. This has been mentioned a few times at WT:MED but a number of regular health editors have missed it so can I point out m:Wikimedia Medicine? It is a proposed formal corporation, based in New York, with members from all over the world, whose job is to raise and disburse funds, and engage with governments, institutions, non-profits, other corporations to support the dissemination of free health-related information via Wikipedia or any other means. If you'd like to show your support, please add your name to this list. If you'd like to get involved, read m:Talk:Wikimedia Medicine, your thoughts would be very welcome. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 16:09, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me, I didn't know! Lova Falk talk 18:29, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
I am actually interested but I feel it would be a false promise if I would write my name on the list. My job is demanding, and here on Wikipedia I can just decide from one day to the next that it's too much. I am not a reliable editor. Last time I took a wikipedia-holiday I was away for more than two years. But thank you once more for telling me! Lova Falk talk 18:43, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
No problem. This is a hobby, not a job! --Anthonyhcole (talk) 01:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Ah, if it was, I would apply for it... Lova Falk talk 17:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Actually, there are jobs. Like this one. It probably pays less than you're getting at the moment but might bring you more satisfaction. Once WM:MED is incorporated, my guess is within the next month, we'll be formalising the arrangement with WHO. If you might be interested, speak to Doc James, who has done all the groundwork. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 17:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Wow! However, "in residence" means being physically based in the organisation for most of the time. And I guess this organisation is not in Sweden... Lova Falk talk 18:47, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
James probably has a fair idea by now what it will involve. (Maybe they can fly you home for weekends.) We need a good person in that placement, and your record here is very good. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 19:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
How very nice of you to try to convince me! But no, no thank you. Now, if the job would involve editing whereever I am, we could talk about jobs again! Lova Falk talk 19:18, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Most of the important stuff we do as editors (obviously) but also as educators and activists occurs online, so the idea that we should physically place fellows in physical institutions is pretty 20th century to me, and wasteful. If paid outreach is necessary (and I'm not completely convinced it is) we need a model that includes effective people who never leave their beds. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 06:38, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Template talk:Sexual orientation#Pansexuality and polysexuality[edit]

Hello, Lova Falk. I have neglected to welcome you back to Wikipedia, but I am contacting you now for your input on a matter. I'm not sure that you remember me, but we once interacted at the Adolescence article. See above: #Good work on the Adolescence article. The matter I am contacting you about now obviously has to do with the above linked discussion. Seeing as you have great knowledge on psychology and sexuality topics, do you mind weighing in on it? I have summarized what is going on there at this noticeboard. Flyer22 (talk) 16:19, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, and I do remember you, and I am sorry - I had to take a look at the pansexuality article to find out what it was. So I have way too little knowledge about these subjects to take part in this discussion. Lova Falk talk 17:14, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Okay. I understand, although I do feel that it would be fine if you were to argue whether or not we should follow scientific consensus even though you are not familiar with the terms pansexuality and polysexuality. That you aren't familiar with them shows what I mean about this. But I thank you for your time. Flyer22 (talk) 18:47, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for reverting page moves![edit]

I was hesitant to start reversions myself until I found out what was happening. But I did make a complaint about Quinser's on the Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism noticeboard but apparently they think that he/she wasn't warned enough. I guess they ignored all the numerous previous warnings listed on User talk:Quinser's. Wikipedia is all into kindness and gentleness so I'm going to kindly and gently watch him/her and issue proper warnings as needed until either he/she grows out of it or he/she reaches the admin threshold for action. Trilobitealive (talk) 01:19, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I was also hesitant at first, but when I saw Quinser's had changed ADHD into Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Condition and this was reverted back immediately, I got bold and reverted the other ones. I am also all into kindness and gentleness as long as I don't get irritated, angry or upset... Face-smile.svg With friendly regards! Lova Falk talk 18:54, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Ref removal[edit]

I don't understand what you're talking about, I thought that I added a reference, not removed one. Check the modification history again to be sure, the first reference has a mention about locus of control affecting self-serving bias so I put it in as an additional reference to the text. (talk) 09:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

You are absolutely right and I apologize to you. I am really sorry! Lova Falk talk 17:04, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Emerging adulthood article[edit]

Any thoughts on what I stated here? Flyer22 (talk) 19:09, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me! I hope you weren't too disappointed when you read my comment... Lova Falk talk 19:20, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Nope. Not disappointed at all. I didn't want a merge. It was just a suggestion that maybe a merge of some sort should be done.
As for this edit to the Adolescence article, those sections were subsections of the Puberty section because they primarily have to do with the changes that happen to the body during puberty. I was the one who formatted them that way while deciding not to get rid of the Biological development heading the class added...considering that it's better to keep it since there is also a Cognitive development section and a Social development section. They'd made it clear that they would be dividing the development areas in that way.
Would you be okay with retitling the Puberty section to "General puberty"...since that takes care of my concern that we are neglecting that the sections you leveled down are also primarily about puberty, but also takes care of your concern about having them leveled up?
On a side note, you don't have to leave me a talkback note, LOL. I make sure to check back to see if someone responded to me if they don't respond on my talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 15:50, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Yes, sure, fine by me. I made the edit because the structure was like this:

2 Biological development

2.1 Puberty
2.1.1 General
2.1.2 Growth spurt
2.1.3 Reproduction-related changes
2.1.4 Changes in the brain

3 Cognitive development

I thought there was no point in having a 2.1 Puberty when there is no 2.2. That's all. :) Lova Falk talk 16:50, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
I see. I just didn't know how else to convey that the other sections are about puberty as well without getting rid of the Biological development heading and having the other sections formatted as subsections of the Puberty section. Flyer22 (talk) 18:06, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
I changed it to "Puberty in general" because "General puberty" can more so imply that the other material doesn't generally happen in puberty (even though readers would soon enough know that this isn't the case by simply reading the text, if they don't it know already). The heading is of course meant to let readers know that the Puberty section discusses puberty in general, unlike the sections that follow discussing particular aspects of it. Flyer22 (talk) 18:17, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Good work! Lova Falk talk 18:22, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. And as you will see, I left a comment on the Emerging adulthood talk page about one of the article's references. Flyer22 (talk) 19:08, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: Welcome[edit]

G'day there,

I _am_ actually a WP member, and my IP is static. I'd like my contributions to go into my real account -- Archaios, as I do a substantial amount of minor edits when I'm reading articles w/o being logged in. How do I go about this? Any advice would be MOST appreciated. Warm regards, Archaios at (talk) 20:09, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Log in! Otherwise, I have no clue how to get your edits to go into your real account. But if you don't want to log in, ask the helpdesk. Maybe they can help... Lova Falk talk 20:19, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks! Archaios (talk) 10:14, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Glad you're back[edit]

Good to see you back to serious editing! Thanks for all your good work, MartinPoulter (talk) 14:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm not sure how long it'll last though, my job is pretty demanding... Lova Falk talk 18:39, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

"In popular culture" sections[edit]

There is no consensus to remove these sections, please stop doing so. Specific concerns about specific entries should be discussed on the article's talk page. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:47, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

As there obviously is no consensus to keep them either, you should please stop putting them back in. Thank you! Lova Falk talk 19:11, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Schizoid personality disorder[edit]

I really enjoyed your comment at the section Outdated concept. Like I said in my edit summary, that's my favorite comment of the year. Keep it up! Thanks. Lighthead þ 06:12, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Socratic Barnstar.png The Socratic Barnstar
For your comment here. There's at least three barnstars that apply to what you said, but I just thought this one fit best. Great argument. Lighthead þ 06:29, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
I don't mind if you use the alternate if you don't like this one. :) Lighthead þ 06:31, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
What a lovely way to start a saturday! Thank you so much! Lova Falk talk 07:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome. You deserve it. Lighthead þ 07:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


Thanks :) Joshua Jonathan (talk) 13:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Hier in Zweden zeggen we soms als we bedankt worden: Tack själv! en dat betekent dat ik degene ben die jou wil bedanken. Fantastische artikelen. Dank je wel! Lova Falk talk 14:20, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Je schrijft Nederlands?!? Heb je toevallig connecties in Jarna? Joshua Jonathan (talk) 14:46, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Ik ben nederlands!:) Ik heb in 1988 drie maanden in Järna gewoond en ken meerdere mensen die daar nu wonen. Lova Falk talk 14:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Zo, dank je wel! :) Een vriend van mij woont in Järna, "Dr. Mojo". Joshua Jonathan (talk) 17:47, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! You might also be interested in...[edit]

Red Kitten 01.jpg

Thanks very much for checking the draft History section, I will paste it on the main-page soon. I am preparing the article for a DYK to coincide with a WikiNews item on a global conference of 30,000 delegates in Oct 2012. You might be interested in the expansion being drafted, here: >> link to Skills draft <<.

VisitingPhilosophertalkcontribs 10:54, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

You're very welcome! And thank you for the kitten. Lova Falk talk 17:02, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Class Project[edit]

Hi Lova

I noticed you are pretty active on some of the pages my students are editing for their course in Developmental Psychology. I just want to thank you for noticing their comments and encourage you to interact with them over the nex tfew months as they start making their proposed edits. Thanks, Paul Paul Conway, Instructor, Introduction to Child Development, Fall 2012, King's University College Canada 00:41, 5 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pauljosephconway (talkcontribs)

Hi Paul, I am very grateful for this project and the articles improving so much better. I'll do what I can. However, I do also have a job and many times I don't have the energy in the evening to also critically read your students' edits. With friendly regards! Lova Falk talk 18:17, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: Account?[edit]

Hmmm... is this a coincidence or synchronicity? -- Guess what the 'F' is in my moniker '~Eric F' is. Btw, don't bother googling "Eric Falk"; the S&M porn-star is not me! Anyway...
Regarding creating an account: I should, but presently am unable (long story). ~Eric F[alk] (talk) 16:59, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

You have a source to prove that? And you know, once is chance, twice is coincidence, and three times is a pattern. We need two more! Lova Falk talk 17:09, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
That Eric Falk[1] is "known for" Ilsa, the Wicked Warden (1977);[2] whereas this Eric Falk[3] is known for (or will be): Precoital social grooming behavior in volplane marsupial colonies.[not yet]
Also, although I haven't been able to confirm, I believe the other one is deceased; whereas, as far as I can tell, I am not. ~Eric F (talk) 18:43, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Ahhh you really made me laugh! Face-smile.svg Lova Falk talk 19:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
3.) Nice photo: Lova contemplating the Ubiquity of Nothing -- or is it: Lova opening a gate, and just happened to blink at the exact moment the photo was shot. ~Eric F (talk) 03:57, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
P.s.: after reading what I wrote, it could be misinterpreted as being sarcastic. Actually, it is a nice photo: contemplative and Kōanic. ~E74.60.29.141 (talk) 14:38, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Yes, either contemplating the ubiquity of nothing or else just enjoying the first spring sun after a long winter. Here in the North we worship the sun when it finally deigns to return in late May... And no, I just laughed and did not think you were sarcastic. Lova Falk talk 20:02, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


As far as I can see, the only editor to mention "stigma" was MM, and that was in defence of the image. But my remark was about the caption editwar, not the image itself.LeadSongDog come howl! 18:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

You are correct! I was too impulsive, not paying enough attention. Yet another editor feels " the picture spreads a stereotypical an[d] abusive meaning of ADHD-concerned" - this person really cares, and to him/her it is important, not a lame war. By the way, a couple of days ago I had a true edit war with reverting back and fro about how a Dutch apple pie is made. Now that was a lame war. But quite funny. Lova Falk talk 19:12, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Not to worry. I surmise that translation difficulties are 99% of the issue here. LeadSongDog come howl! 19:52, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Explicit Memory[edit]

Hi Lova Falk

I noticed that you recently contributed to the explicit memory page. I am currently gathering sources and preparing contributions on this topic for a class project. I was just curious if you were planing on improving or adding any other sections. Thanks.

Jlmoy (talk) 16:54, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

No, I am not. Thank you for asking! Lova Falk talk 16:57, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Languages that had been deleted[edit]


The languages that I had deleted were related to another titles (specifically personality); so their place is not here!

an example fa:شخصیت is related to en:personality, not Personality psychology!

thank you Hasanadnantaha (talk) 14:07, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Hasanadnantaha, for explaining to me. If you look at the history page, you can see that my edit summary was: "Undid revision 516985947 by Hasanadnantaha (talk) unmotivated removal of wp links". When I undid your edit, I did not know that you had good reasons for removing the links, because you had not written anything in the "Edit summary". Please, next time, explain what you do and why so we who check these articles know that it is not vandalism!
I removed the links again. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 14:16, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your care, and I will be more specific in next times. Hasanadnantaha (talk) 06:19, 14 October 2012 (UTC)


Hi Lova. Let me point out that turning the section titles into non-questions turns the introductory paragraph of the Philosophy section into nonsense. If you feel a need to do that, could you please fix the introductory paragraph as well? Regards, Looie496 (talk) 16:20, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Looie! Thank you for telling me. Maybe not such a good idea to start at an arbitrary point and work my way up... I have always thought that it was very textbook-like and not very encyclopedic to have these questions as section headers. I think most people (like me) just read the part they are interested in and don't read the whole article. Anyway I'll finish changing the section titles, change the introductory paragraph, and I won't revert if you or somebody else reverts my edits. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 16:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Add video's[edit]

Hi there, I am working with my psych class to clean up some articles and I wanted to know if it's possible to add videos to an article? thanks! Amusico2 (talk) 00:26, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I have never tried it myself, but as far as I know, yes, you can upload ogg video's with a maximum file size of 100 MB. You start here. If it somehow doesn't work, you can ask the helpdesk for help. Good luck! Lova Falk talk 16:05, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Developments in Attachment[edit]

Hi Lova. In my response to your second comment I have written at length, in part to bring attention to a developing situation of concern.
With growing numbers of newborn babies being put in child care, often from 2 weeks to 2 months of age, we're seeing a rise of weak attachment--I call it loosened attachment--of children who seem to be okay on the outside but don't develop the ability to sustain healthy long-term relationships as adults. And it's giving rise to increasing levels of sociopathic behavior. Probably many professionals in the field of attachment theory are somewhat aware of this development but need to be prepared for a worsening situation. Your and their expertise will be called on and I can only bring attention to this problem.

(I witnessed this phenomenon in my own family system--although on my mother's side they were wealthy and well educated, babies were left with nurses and nannies and the mothers were profoundly detached from their children. There was extreme cruelty and each generation in turn hated their mother. My sister and I avoided the trap by peer bonding to each other. Margaret9mary (talk)


Hi Lova. Could you take a look at this comment of mine? The same article has been used at Enlightenment (spiritual); I think it's bogus. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan (talk) 06:16, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done Face-smile.svg Lova Falk talk 09:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
How come we suddenly have user:Lotus sutra81, User:Enterodoc9 and User:Raul7213 active at Talk:Enlightenment (spiritual), none of them creating a user-page? Joshua Jonathan (talk) 11:51, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
You read my thoughts! Yesterday, I had a this question for the help desk... But maybe we should say something about it... Lova Falk talk 11:56, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
At the Talk page, or at the Administrator's Noteboard? Joshua Jonathan (talk) 13:13, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
I have never dealt with this situation before. I guess both? First at the talk page, telling that we'll report our suspicion at the Administrator's noticeboard? Lova Falk talk 13:17, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I've had one incident before, at Kensho. Maybe we can ask User:SudoGhost. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 13:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Please do! Lova Falk talk 13:29, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I'll find out what to do. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 14:08, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
I've informed User talk:SudoGhost#Enlightenment (spiritual). Joshua Jonathan (talk) 14:31, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
And he has answered, at his Talk Page, and posted a warning at User talk:Gang49#October 2012. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 06:32, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
So I did start a SPI: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Raul7213 Blllh, this is getting on my nerves... Joshua Jonathan (talk) 20:15, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Good job, thank you! Lova Falk talk 20:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

They've all been blocked. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 15:31, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

That's a relief. Lova Falk talk 17:05, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

I've opened an SPI on Octavious88 Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Octavious88. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 08:08, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Some people just can't give up... Lova Falk talk 08:12, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
I've started calling him "Johnny99" Joshua Jonathan (talk) 08:18, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
This Johnny99? I had never heard of him... Lova Falk talk 08:22, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
The name comes from Springsteen indeed, but I've never listened to the text, except for "They call hin Johnny99". But the description given in the Wikipedia-article is awful; I'll use another name. Don't want to wake any nightmare-creatures... (yes, that's magical thinking). Maybe "Mr00". Joshua Jonathan (talk) 09:02, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
The "Minimus Zero running shoe"! Run from Wikipedia, run! Lova Falk talk 09:07, 21 November 2012 (UTC)


Good evening Lova Falk,

Thank you for reverting the unexplained removal of content from the article, which you phrased beautifully, "... unmotivated removal of content" in your edit summary – you beat me to it, hence my rather confusing edit summary.

Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 18:57, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Good evening to you too, and I knew you didn't mean the edit. Face-smile.svg Lova Falk talk 19:06, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Ha, ha! I hate it when an {{ec}} happens. All the best! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 19:12, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

I objected to implications of incest[edit]

As of now, in the 2nd section of Attachment theory the article says "The theory proposes that children attach to carers instinctively,[10] for the purpose of survival and, ultimately, genetic replication."[note #11] As it stands this would imply that incest is a natural outcome of infant attachment.

Perhaps it meant to say is that the experience of attachment in infancy lays the neurological, social and emotional foundations on which, years later, the peer relationship of adult attachment with a spouse or long-term partner will be sustained; and this may well involve genetic replication. But the sentence as it stands can easily be misunderstood. I removed "and, ultimately, genetic replication." It was reinstated twice.Why? Do presentday Attachment theorists think incest is okay?--Margaret9mary (talk) 21:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)--Margaret9mary (talk) 22:08, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for adding the graph to WP:VPM. Could I interest you in changing <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> to {{-}} or <br clear=all> or {{clear}}? Apteva (talk) 15:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, very much so!! I thought the row of <br /> 's was a terrible way of preventing the next section to invade into the graph. Thank you!! Lova Falk talk 16:44, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
You are very welcome. Where there is a will there is a way. I have my window reduced, and reduced there was a huge blank space below the graph, which is how I noticed the method used to keep it from going into the next section. Apteva (talk) 19:43, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Visual thinking/beelddenken[edit]

Ook gij? "Beelden in je hoofd", Lot blom. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 14:28, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Nee, nog nooit van gehoord. Maar ik ontdekte laatst dat we allebei psycholoog zijn. Dat wel! Lova Falk talk 15:42, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Eh, spraakverwarring? Het boek is van Lot Blom. Maar "beelddenken" is voor jou ook herkenbaar? Joshua Jonathan (talk) 21:18, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Ja, spraakverwarring, en nee, als mijn man en ik samen een adres zoeken, kijkt hij op de kaart en ik lees de namen van de straten en gebouwen. Zelf zou ik zeggen dat ik niet alleen in woorden maar ook sterk in gevoelens denk, maar daar is geen artikel over. (Het heeft in ieder geval niets te maken nmet kinesthetisch leren.) Lova Falk talk 06:24, 3 November 2012 (UTC)


Hi Lova. For textbook-level stuff I generally take the attitude that it's more important to get it right than to source everything. That article was so awful that I just couldn't stand it any longer. I'm going to keep revising content for a while, and I'll try to supply sources eventually, but may not get everything covered. This is, after all, stuff that is in every basic neuroscience textbook, so it's not like there is any difficulty in verifying it. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 18:07, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree with you - in other cases sometimes I remove the unsourced text and I wouldn't dream of doing that in your case. But don't you have a textbook somewhere that you can use as a source? Lova Falk talk 18:10, 2 November 2012 (UTC)


Hello, I'm Lova Falk. I wanted to let you know that I removed an external link you added to the page Friendship, because it seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thank you.

-> Do you think really "How to know a flatterer from a friend" of Plutarch does not appropriate for Friendship? That is Plutarchs' philosophical approach to the friendship like Aristotles' Nicomachean Ethics in the Further reading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 21:17, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi! Thank you for asking me. I just checked with the WP site on external links, and I copy here what it says about what can normally be linked:
  1. Wikipedia articles about any organization, person, website, or other entity should link to the subject's official site, if any. See Official links below.
  2. An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a legally distributed copy of the work, so long as none of the Restrictions on linking and Links normally to be avoided criteria apply.
  3. Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues,[1] amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks), or other reasons.
Now, your books are not number one, two or three. As you say, it is a philosophical approach to friendship, and as such, it is not neutral and accurate. Yet I can see the value of including the philosophical view on friendship. The best thing to do would be to write a section "Philosophy" in the article Friendship, and then the philosophy books can be used as references. For now, I'll put your books back in. I'll also copy this discussion to the talk page of Friendship. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 17:05, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks <3[edit]

Thank you so much for your help the last couple of days! You made it a lot easier to navigate Wikipedia and make a substantial contribution to the Foster care in Canada page I can be proud of! Wikipedians like you make this a very enjoyable experience :) Sanasrandomness (talk) 06:10, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

You're very welcome, and I should thank you for all your work on this page! Lova Falk talk 16:33, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Behaviorism (Versions)[edit]

Hello again. There is a problem on the Behaviorism page in the Versions section (Psychological behaviorism). I tried to find the intent and fix it myself, but am stumped. The editor of this revision has been previously tagged with vandalism on that page, but this seems to be a legit edit that was improperly formatted (?). Since you seem to be active on that page, perhaps you know what to do. ~Thanks, ~Eric F (talk) 17:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Eric! I edited best I could, now it is up to you to copyedit the text. Face-smile.svg Lova Falk talk 17:27, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
PS Very kind of you to try to find the editor's intent, instead of simply reverting the edit. Lova Falk talk 17:36, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Now I'm beginning to wonder if Arthur W. Staats should be included on the list. Besides the seemingly notable mention from that edit, he has a page on Spanish Wikipedia. Or ... maybe I should quit messing with stuff where I don't belong. ~E: (talk) 17:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
I have never ever heard of Staats before, but then I might not belong on the behaviorism page either. But sometimes it's fun to mess with stuff where one doesn't belong... Lova Falk talk 18:06, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for your comments on the dementia article's talk page[edit]

Many thanks for the comments you left in response to my comments on the talk page of the article on dementia. Your comments are well taken, and I must say, I do wonder whether quite a lot of what ends up being put in Wikipedia could perhaps have gone more appropriately in wikinews! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

And I thank you for accepting my comments so graciously! Lova Falk talk 17:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

RE: Thank you[edit]

And thank you for your kind words as well as your thoughtful contributions to the ADHD article. Had I known the editor was 14 from the beginning, my first response would have been much gentler. I suppose if I've learned anything, it's that I should not only assume good faith, but also consider the possibility that the editor may be underage! Have a great day! Cresix (talk) 00:37, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


You said this edit is irrelevant there. Would it be more appropriate for the followinf articles: Consciousness, Personality psychology, Personal identity ? Pass a Method talk 20:36, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi! DID is a disorder, and consciousness actually has a section with disorders. However, these disorders are not mental disorders, but disorders like coma, so it doesn't fit in there. Personality psychology does not have any section about disorders at all, and neither does personal identity. So I would say, none of them. Lova Falk talk 06:54, 11 November 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for your expert reviews of my edits. :) As you can see I am not a psychologist, more of a wannabe one, lol. Do you specialise in ADHD out of interest?--MrADHD | T@1k? 00:45, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! No, actually I am a psychologist, and assessment of children/teenagers with ADHD is part of my job... Lova Falk talk 07:07, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
You are welcome. :) Yea, I knew you were a psychologist, I read on your user page that you were a psychologist. I am hoping to get the ADHD page up to good article status. If you would like to help, that would be cool. I am not sure if you have any experience in building wikipedia good articles? If I have any questions some time in the future about ADHD would you care to answer them? If you are busy, I understand, no pressure.--MrADHD | T@1k? 00:19, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi again! The ADHD page is one that I check, but at this point in my life I don't want to commit myself to trying to make it into a good article. However, you are free to ask me questions about ADHD, and I'll answer them as well as I can - if I can. Lova Falk talk 18:04, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
No bother Lova. I understand about the time commitments. Great, thanks, will be in touch if I have a question about ADHD. :) I hope you are having a nice day.--MrADHD | T@1k? 12:58, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! Face-smile.svg And a good day to you too! Lova Falk talk 15:13, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for editing small things on my auditory imagery article Lova I really appreciate it! I'm going to be working on this article from now until around the beginning of December so appreciate you helping me out with the syntax I don't know yet. Thanks! User:Imran Naim

You're very welcome, and good luck with the article! Lova Falk talk 16:48, 15 November 2012 (UTC)


Do you also get an itchy feeling by these recent edits on Neo-Advaita? Joshua Jonathan (talk) 21:27, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

The feeling I get is that this is one user (with two names) who has seen the light during the teachings of Kosi and now wants to spread this through Wikipedia. And of course, Wikipedia is not a means of promotion - yet on a personal level I can also feel sympathy for this undertaking. Lova Falk talk 09:47, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
One of the best lessons of psychology: share your feelings, and get someone else's view too, to broaden your own perspective. Thanks! Joshua Jonathan (talk) 10:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
But... Have a look at this one too: Special:Contributions/Iamthelotus That's three. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 15:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Also the refusal to talk despite several invitations, makes it more difficult to keep on assuming good faith. Lova Falk talk 16:56, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm already considering sockpuppet-investigation, but I'll hold on a little bit longer, meanwhile collecting diff's etc. Feels like suddenly attracting this... Nevertheless, it's true what I said about sharing feelings and thoughts: it's good to have another one's view/opinion to broaden your own interpretation. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 18:00, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
As you can see, I have now made a full revert of the latest edits. PS. I'll soon be checking out for tonight - and will be at work tomorrow... Lova Falk talk 18:53, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Up to you to roll back again... Joshua Jonathan (talk) 11:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

I've started an SPI on this one too Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Iamthelotus Joshua Jonathan (talk) 12:05, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
And a 3RR Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Truthisnow reported by User:Joshua Jonathan (Result: ). What a waste of time... Joshua Jonathan (talk) 13:21, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Really. (I am busy with other things right now, but I'll check the article every now and again.) Lova Falk talk 14:41, 21 November 2012 (UTC)


Hi! I changed the sentence and then I've added Mobbing again to this article because Mobbing is almost the same meaning as Bullying. And I really don't know why many of my edits have been reverted although it was no vandalism. Dol Grenn (talk) 12:25, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Dol Grenn! I never accused you of vandalism. I gave you the reason for changing your edit in the edit summary. Also, I did not revert your mentioning of bullying, I just put it in another sentence. This is the way Wikipedia works: you make an edit, I change it, you change it back, now I have changed it a bit again, etc etc.
You say that many of your edits are reverted. I would really recommend you to check out the Teahouse where people can help you. Lova Falk talk 12:33, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks very much ;) Happy Christmas! Dol Grenn (talk) 13:58, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! You're the first this year. The same to you. And a happy new year! Lova Falk talk 14:01, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

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Perennial philosophy[edit]

Hello. In response to your edits, it is an academic convention (in both Chicago and Harvard manuals of style) to put foreign language translations into italics. I am a scholar of Indian religions and my work has been translated into three asian languages. Regards. (talk) 15:38, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Neither is it usual to put these foreign language translations into boldface as you have done. If you read the passage you referred me to you will find this stated. (talk) 15:57, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Ignore all credentials Greetings, Joshua Jonathan (talk) 19:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

(Copied to Talk:Perennial philosophy#Bold and/or italic)

Developmental Psychology Course[edit]

Hi Lova

Thanks for the note. I understand you concerns; I have heard that Wikipedia prefers to rely on secondary sources. Please understand that we are participating as part of the Association for Psychological Science (APS) Wikipedia Initiative. APS has argued that Wikipedia's focus on secondary sources is sub-optimal, and has been advocating for the increased presence of primary sources on Wikipedia, and has asked instructors such as myself to push for inclusion of more primary scientific material. The nature of the student's present assignment is in this spirit. Unfortunately, not every student is as skilled as we would like in adding this material; variance in success is to be expected in every student endeavor. I apologize for frustration regarding the need to edit material that is presented in a less than ideal fashion from Wikipedia's perspective. Yet, on behalf of APS and the scientific community, I urge you to consider leaving in more primary material than instinct might otherwise recommend, in order to slowly chip away at Wikipedia's preference for secondary sources in order to improve the quality of the primary information that is available to a wide audience, as recommended by APS. PauljosephconwayTest (talk) 04:06, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Copied to User talk:Pauljosephconway/Psychology 2410A at King's to continue the discussion there. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 09:26, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Hey Lova - thanks so much for your encouraging comment about my work on the 'Creativity In Diverse Cultures' section of the 'Creativity' page. I only just saw it now; it helps me feel a little more confident in this strange and exciting new world of Wikipedia! Hope your work becomes less strenuous soon. Take care, Doctor Girl (talk) 15:30, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I remember feeling a bit nervous when I started editing Wikipedia, doing one tiny edit and checking each day if it still was there (after more than five years, it is still there!) When it comes to work, I now hope that February will be a bit more relaxed... Face-smile.svg Lova Falk talk 19:14, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Virginia Satir[edit]

Thank you for catching the error in the edit of the Virginia Satir article. Much appreciated!MerlinsMagic (talk) 19:05, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for thanking me! Lova Falk talk 19:08, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for the answer on forgetfullness. Pass a Method talk 16:23, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Lova Falk talk 16:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

12000 edits[edit]

Get a life... - but you got one! Cheers, Joshua Jonathan (talk) 19:39, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Mensch5.png The Barnstar of Integrity
You receive a lot of appreciation, many "Thank you!"s I admire your diligence in responding to other Wikipedians. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 19:45, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Very much appreciated! Lova Falk talk 19:49, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Adolescence article again[edit]

Hey, Lova Falk. I know that you've stayed out of these matters: [4][5][6]. But can you at least let me know your thoughts on them, here on your talk page or at mine? Flyer22 (talk) 23:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Flyer22! Thank you for asking. I will look into it, but not tonight (it's friday night in Sweden). I have had a long day at work and I'll just do some easy watchlist checks before I'll log off... Lova Falk talk 19:33, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Okay, Lova Falk. Thank you for considering to give me your thoughts on this. Flyer22 (talk) 21:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Affectional bond[edit]

Hello Lova Falk - thanks for policing Affectional Bond. My history of psych class is doing the APS wikipedia initiative. Not all of them have the editing thing down. I'm encouraging them to talk to you. Best, James Council, NDSU prof of psych — Preceding unsigned comment added by James Council (talkcontribs) 21:26, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! I'd be happy talking with them. Lova Falk talk 10:28, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Evolutionary Medicine[edit]

Subj: Infusing Evolutionary Thinking into Medical Education

Body: Dear Wikipedia,

The NSF-funded National Evolutionary Synthesis Center (NESCent) has formed a working group of physicians and scientists to infuse curricula at medical schools with evolutionary principles. We are creating resources for medical students. We had considered creating online modules with the hope that students would find them and use them. Since many medical students first consult “Dr. Wiki,” we believe contributing to this open-access resource would best leverage our efforts. We have several group members who will be working directly on this project- Stephen C Stearns, C Athena Aktipis, and myself. We are contacting you to inform you of our plans and receive any feedback:

1) Adding an “evolutionary considerations” subsection to medical entries, like “fever” and “risk factors for breast cancers” with… a) citations to open-access articles b) links to evo-med entries in Wikipedia c) links at the bottom of articles to “Understanding Evolution,” a highly reputable online resource visited 1.2 million times per month. UC Berkley maintains it. A representative is working closely with our group. 2) Editing extant evo-med related articles to be more complete. We plan to begin with the “evolutionary medicine” article and fan-out from there. 3) Adding articles for key concepts or areas of research in evolutionary medicine that do not yet exist on Wikipedia. 4) Amplifying our efforts with a training for enthusiastic pre-medical and medical students- the Evolutionary Medicine Wikipedia Network. We will host a workshop at NESCent in 2013. I have found the helpful guides to editing. If it would be helpful for a Wikipedia representative to attend and assist, we are open to the idea.

Thank you, Brandon Hidaka BrandonHidaka (talk) 19:59, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Brandon for informing me and aksing for feedback. Here it comes! Wikipedia is an encyclopedia "that anyone can edit" and also most of the readers should be able to read. When adding content to articles in Wikipedia, you cannot only have your students in mind as your potential readers but also an interested "general public" who might not always have had an advanced education. It is quite an art to express difficult concepts in an easy way! For instance, the section that you wrote on The evolution of aging, you need to start with explaining what you even mean with "the evolution of ageing". With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 20:12, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the helpful feedback. I will be much more keen to explain complex topics (there is a reason why evolutionary theory was "happened upon" in the not-too-distant 19th century!) more thoroughly for the general public. Besides, most medical students do not have a good understanding of evolution. Looking over the "ageing" article, it appears that much is geared toward the promise of life extension, a business that can be quite lucrative... Also, I hope that it is permissible to continue to use pithy, powerful words that may be beyond the scope of most vocabularies in hopes of expanding them. Cheers! BrandonHidaka (talk) 22:30, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

December 2012[edit]

Hello Lova Falk, I'm Andrewaskew. I'm responding to the linked comment on my talk page.

I'm sorry, I have read and re-read my edit (I had to remind myself) and I cannot see what POV you are saying that I am trying to push.

This was just a quick little edit I performed because I was going through the pages that link to Media manipulation and correcting the redirects. When I came upon Distraction the By media section just consisted of two links (and with your revert, now does again). I feel that sections consisting of just links are extremely ugly, and have no place in Wikipedia (not an offical policy, just an opinion). So I took it upon myself to introduce some content into the section. This I did by pulling material from the two linked pages (Media manipulation & Media multitasking), then rewriting it to make a short and coherent section.

I have no particular attachment to the above edit, but feel that this section needs some text. So, if you can advise in what way you feel the section violated WP:NPOV and what, in your opinion, could be done to improve it, I am happy to write a compromise.

Thank you.

--Andrewaskew (talk) 22:49, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
(Reply) Lova Falk talk 08:14, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

No problem at all; I prefer editors to be overvigilant than to leave low-traffic pages like this neglected. I'm glad we could sort it out. Also, you're right, the first paragraph does need a citation (I'll see what I can do to properly source this paragraph myself).
Secondly, my apologies for the late answer to your late answer. I too have been busy over the holidays and have taken a short wikibreak.
Best wishes to you. --Andrewaskew (talk) 23:27, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


Hi Lova Falk - my idea was to move the prevention-related sections on caffeine into the prevention section - you have now deleted them altogether? Best wishes (JCJC777 (talk) 23:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC))

Hi JCJC777, no, in your last version: there was this line in the section prevention:
"For some people, anxiety can be very much reduced by coming off caffeine.[40] Anxiety can temporarily increase during caffeine withdrawal.[41][42][43]"
and this line in the section treatment:
"For some people, anxiety can be very much reduced by coming off caffeine.[40] Anxiety can temporarily increase during caffeine withdrawal.[41][42][43]"
So I removed it from prevention, and it is still in treatment. I thought it was better in treatment than in prevention, first because the line says anxiety can be reduced by coming off caffeine - which is treatment, not prevention, but also, I have never heard of people not starting to drink coffee because they want to prevent anxiety, however, I have heard of people stopping drinking coffee. Now, I have no sources for this, but actually I doubt if you can find a source that describes not starting to drink coffee in order to prevent anxiety... Best wishes! Lova Falk talk 07:09, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Christmas diner[edit]

Don't you have a Christmas diner to enjoy? Best wishes, Joshua Jonathan (talk) 20:46, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I ate a lovely Christmas diner yesterday! In Sweden the big day is Christmas eve, whereas on Christmas day we're all tired and listless after having eaten and drunk too much the day before. Face-smile.svg Best wishes to you too! Lova Falk talk 20:52, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

You have mail![edit]

Hello, Lova Falk. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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Regarding a t-shirt nomination :) Jalexander--WMF 23:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for supporting User:Jacobisq. Nice that a T shirt may be, it would be nicer if Wiki could award grants to a few select editors for a specific contract of work. I personally would give User:Jacobisq such a grant. BTW he tends to take winter Wiki breaks i think motivated by Seasonal_affective_disorder. He is likely to be back in a few months.--Penbat (talk) 09:27, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that would be great! Would be really nice to take a few months leave from work and edit edit edit away! Lova Falk talk 09:54, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


Wauw.Great! Thanks for this nomination Face-smile.svg Joshua Jonathan (talk) 20:13, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

You deserve it. Lova Falk talk 20:16, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


there's a bit of silly stuff going on here if you have the time Talk:Individualism --Penbat (talk) 11:34, 29 December 2012 (UTC) Have u seen [7]. anyway i have now put an alert on the admin message board about this --Penbat (talk) 12:19, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

No I hadn't seen it! I was a bit surprised to find a remark dated september. How silly of me not to check the history. Lova Falk talk 12:21, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
thx for your help, see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Talk:Individualism--Penbat (talk) 13:49, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
This is a first for me. Difficult but interesting. Lova Falk talk 14:02, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year[edit]

I hope that you have a Happy New Year Lova! All the best in 2013.--MrADHD | T@1k? 02:29, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Lova Falk talk 03:21, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


Hello. My name is Miquaz (My wikipedia name is Miquaz 1.) I'm sorry about messing up your fonts, but I never knew that you could change Wikipedia fonts and when I saw your talk page, I was amazed! I went to edit it, and saw the name of the font section, and wondered if I could change it to another font name. I forgot to change it back to what it was. I'm really sorry! --Miquaz1 (talk) 17:32, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

P.S Happy New Year!!

Hi Miquaz, and thank you for explaining. You know, you should be a bit careful with other people's talk pages and also their user pages. It was real nice of you to welcome Beatrix Altava - and fully appropriate - but it is fully up to Beatrix Altava to decide if the user page should be empty or not. The only times we are supposed to edit the user page is when it obviously has been vandalized, or when the user has told you to do so. Happy new year to you too! Lova Falk talk 19:56, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Beatrix Altava is my sister. She told me to do that. But you're right. I did that to other people too. Thanks for letting me know that. Is it okay for me to edit new user's talk pages?


--Miquaz1 (talk) 21:47, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Miquaz! How nice to have your sister on Wikipedia. Of course, if she asks you to write something, it's fine. With other (new) user's talk pages, you can leave messages, for instance you can welcome them, help them or ask them a question, so in that way you can edit the page. But we don't usually edit for instance spelling mistakes on user's talk page, and it is not okay to change anything they have said. Lova Falk talk 08:01, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Great Job![edit]

Thanks for re-organizing the empathy article in a structured way that could be much easier to understand for a person confused about the cognitive and emotional components of empathy. Particularly for some of those on the Autism Spectrum with the condition of Alexithymia, where trying to find a construct of words to describe their experience of their emotional world can be very difficult without someone to guide them there in words in a structured way that makes sense. Or for those that have recently acquired or are in the process of acquiring the described conditions of Alexithymia and/or compassion fatigue as a result of other factors in life, with the vague sense that something is missing that they had before.

There have many people that have expressed concern that when the phrase "a lack of empathy" is tossed around associated with different DSM-IV-TR labels for disorders that it means that a person with those disorders are essentially not human.

In part, as a result of your recent efforts, the whole of the empathy issue is better structured and easier to understand for those that turn to Google and Wiki for the answers that dictionaries don't provide, to understand more fully what it means to be human. I can't think of many other words more important to gain an accurate and fuller understanding of than empathy, per the new demands of culture and the impact it has on most everyone's connection to others. For the first time in five decades, I feel comfortable that I understand what empathy is. I wish I had access to information like this decades before, but it's good that it is only finger tips away for most, now:).Yellowboy70 (talk) 23:26, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Yellowboy70 and thank you so much! I have been confused about the empathy issue myself and I was happy when I finally found the time to immerse myself into it a couple of days ago. For me, many pieces of the puzzle have fallen into place. Once more, thank you for your comment! Lova Falk talk 07:37, 2 January 2013 (UTC)


I found this presentation in Edinburgh fascinating – I have always been interested in the subject. Amy Cuddy is a remarkable young woman whose own story is inspirational.
Thank you for adding it to the article.
Happy New Year! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 09:49, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! I usually delete lots of external links so it felt almost like a transgression when I put in one myself, but this one was so good I couldn't resist it. Face-smile.svg Happy new year to you too! Lova Falk talk 10:20, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Ha, ha! I know – most often they are SPAM –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 10:25, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

RE:Your edits to ACT and DBT[edit]

Sorry I forgot the source. See here: [8]. Accordingly, it lists DBT and ACT ARE as forms of CBT. Also see here: [9]. It says: "Modern clinical behavior analysis in the form of acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT), however, succeeds in providing a functional definition of human values that meets this latter criterion. ACT is rooted in behavior analysis and relational frame theory (RFT) and defines values in terms of verbally established motivation." And here: [10], which says: "Clinical behavior analysis (CBA) involves the application of behavior analytic principles to the full range of human problems, many of which have traditionally been considered "mental health" issues. CBA clinicians work with the relationship between thoughts, feelings, and other behavior to help people move beyond their problems and toward living more fulfilling lives." Can you revert my edits as they ARE correct? Thank you. ATC . Talk 18:03, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi ATC! Your first source is incomplete. Maybe it looks different on your computer due to cache, but on my computer, I just get a document of two pages, saying "Welcome to clinical behavior analysis" - no name of author, no name of book (if it is a part of a book???), no year - not a reliable source. However, the second source your provided is better, so I have removed the first source and put the second source in. Your third source doesn't mention either ACT or DBT.
However, the second part of your statement, that ACT is a combination of cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and applied behavior analysis (ABA) is not in your source, so the citation needed statement stays. I must say, I doubt if that is really true, as far as I know, I would rather describe ACT as a combination of CBT and mindfulness.
When it comes to DBT, there is only this incomplete source to state that it is a form of clinical behavior analysis and no source at all for the combination statement, so I tagged this. Lova Falk talk 19:41, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
1) The scientific journal stated that ACT is a form of clinical behavior analysis in the lead. According to Wiki polices, for these purposes, scientific journals are the most valid resources. 2) Also, I was able to find a journal for DBT. It states: "With its clear hierarchy of treatment targets and behavior modification (through functional analysis), DBT is well suited for treatment of many problems characterized by behavior dyscontrol." See here: [11]. And according to this journal: [12], it states the following: "Perhaps there is a tendency to draw pejorative contrasts between PBS and ABA in order to bolster claims about the status of PBS as a new and distinct science or discipline (e.g., Bambara et al., 1994; E. Carr, 1997; E. Carr et al., 2002; Knoster et al., 2003; Sisson, 1992). There may be disagreement among PBS leaders on this point. On the one hand, for example, Horner (2000) stated that “Positive behavior support is not a new approach. … [It is] the application of behavior analysis to the social problems created by such behaviors as self-injury” (p. 97). He further stated, “There is no difference in theory or science between positive behavior support and behavior modification. These are the same approach with different names. If any difference exists, it is in the acceptance [by PBS] of much larger outcomes and the need to deliver the global technology that will deliver these outcomes” (p. 99). Other writers have referred to PBS as an “extension” of applied behavior analysis (e.g., Turnbull et al., 2002, p. 377)." ATC . Talk 21:34, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
3) According to the research, CBA is a form of ABA. See here: [13]. It states: "Clinical behavior analysis (CBA) is defined as the application of radical behaviorism to answer the most basic question about outpatient adult behavior therapy (or any other type of behavior therapy) (Kohlenberg, Tsai and Dougher, 1993)." Plus, Radical behaviorism was developed by B.F. Skinner who later changed the name to Behavior Analysis. The application of behavior analysis, formerly called behavior modification, is now called applied behavior analysis (ABA). ATC . Talk 21:34, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
4) Resolved the issue. Are universities accepted as a reliable source? 5) The psychology department at the University of Waikato, stated the following: "Clinical Behaviour Analysis (CBA) is an approach, based in behaviour analysis and classed as one of the cognitive behaviour therapies (CBT), that involves the application of behaviour-analytic principles through verbal strategies to help people with problems. These therapies, often termed third generation behaviour therapies, include Dialectical Behaviour Therapy (DBT), Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), Behavioural Activation (BA), Functional Analytic Psychotherapy (FAP) and Integrative Behavioural Couples Therapy (IBCT)." See here: [14]. Why would a university state this meanwhile it is almost impossible to find all of the subtypes of clinical behavior analysis in a scientific journal? ATC . Talk 23:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I hope you don't mind that I numbered you comments so you can see what I answered.
1) Yes, we agree on this one and as you can see in the article, yesterday (before you wrote to me) I put in this article as a source.
2) Neither of your two sources say that DBT is a form of clinical behavior analysis. The first source says it uses functional analysis - which is not the same as saying that it is a form of clinical behavior analysis. In the second source, it starts talking about PBS. The article is about DBT not PBS.
3) Yes, your source says that CBA is a form of ABA but not that it is a combination of CBT and ABA, as you said.
5) I used this ref for the statement that DBT is a form of clinical behavior analysis.
4) No, the issue is not resolved. There is no source for the statement that CBA is a combination of cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and applied behavior analysis (ABA). Nor does the CBA article say so. As you can see, I removed this statement out of the definition, also because it made the definition unnecessarily wordy. Lova Falk talk 08:03, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


I got my t-shirt. Thanks a million. Have you got yours yet? Mine's a little smaller than I expected, but it accentuates my rippling six-pack so I don't mind. :) --Anthonyhcole (talk) 10:17, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

You're very welcome! Face-smile.svg And no, not yet. If it's too small, I'll just hang it on the wall. Lova Falk talk 19:35, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


I loved this. Do you know if the DSM-V will be including SLI as a symptom of the autism spectrum? It and IQ were the defining symptoms that distinguished Kanner's syndrome from high functioning autism and Asperger's. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 13:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! And I don't know. This section says nothing about a language delay. But I'm sure my employer will send me to lectures about DSM-5 some time in the near future and then I'll find out. Cheers! Face-smile.svg Lova Falk talk 16:33, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Cheers. If you hear something, and remember, can you please let me know? I'm having a little break. Catch you later. Soldier on. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 16:39, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
I will. Enjoy your break! Lova Falk talk 18:27, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]


Just wanted to say thank you for both supporting me and questioning my ideas and reasons. And I don't mean either in the bad way. Studying it's easy for my egotism to kick in and to be stuck in that mindset.

So thank you. It's easy to get caught up in your own head and people to question that which is good to open up your own headspace. 10:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legios (talkcontribs)

You're welcome Legios! Face-smile.svg Lova Falk talk 07:48, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Kindness Barnstar Hires.png The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For your great kindness and encouragements. Thanks a lot. ···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 10:04, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much! You made my day. ♥ Lova Falk talk 10:52, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


Looks like the grants idea is taking off. --Penbat (talk) 09:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me! Lova Falk talk 15:56, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

BTW, although User:Jacobisq has done a lot of seriously awesome stuff, his earlier work was done in an unconventional style where he simply quoted text fragments from the source instead of summarising the cited source. Apart from possible copywrite issues, it also makes the text difficult to read. He is now no longer doing this (see User_talk:Jacobisq#CCI_Notice) and is gradually converting his old material listed at User:Jacobisq/Article list but it is a slow process. If you can help with the conversion please do. I would help myself but quite a lot of it is out of my depth.--Penbat (talk) 16:34, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Good to know in case I don't know what to do. Face-smile.svg The thing is, however, that my job is pretty intensive and I'm not always up to highly demanding editing. But sometimes I am... Lova Falk talk 17:10, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
It makes it a bit easier that there is no question of the accuracy or veracity of User:Jacobisq's cites, it is more a matter of just re-expressing his quoted text fragments in a more conventional style. It may not necessarily be required to consult the original sources to do this but an understanding of the subject matter is a prerequisite.--Penbat (talk) 08:54, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
His site is on my to-do list! Lova Falk talk 09:09, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
I had noticed that flaw in Jacobisq's work, such as at the Preadolescence article. Glad to know that he's no longer editing that way, though some quoting is fine. Flyer22 (talk) 04:01, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Feel free to help improve his old material.--Penbat (talk) 09:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
It could theoretically be viable to get a grant for Jacobisq to clean up his earlier work but he probably wouldn't be back from his wikibreak before the 1st deadline of Feb 15th. It would be a well defined task. --Penbat (talk) 17:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Secondary sex characteristic article[edit]

I wonder if the comment an IP made there on the talk was really made by that registered editor (the registered name the IP used). Why wouldn't the editor make that comment while signed in? And why sign with the user name instead of the IP name? If he simply wanted us to know that it's him and not a random IP, that goes back to my first question. And how did he calculate what the time would state without signing under that IP name?

As for the new images added to the article,[15] [16] I suppose they are okay for inclusion. Flyer22 (talk) 03:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

My guess is that it is written by Floating boat, but s/he is simply away from his/her own computer. But why not just ask Floating boat? And yes, I think the pictures are fine. Lova Falk talk 08:03, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I don't see how being away from his computer could affect him signing in, unless you mean that he didn't want his log information left behind. But we don't have to save our password and we can clear the browser history. Flyer22 (talk) 18:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Actually I thought of forgetting passwords... Happens to me every now and then. Rolling eyes.GIF Lova Falk talk 18:58, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I did think to ask him, and will do so now. Flyer22 (talk) 18:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Good! I'll be watching. Face-smile.svg Lova Falk talk 18:58, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
You may have seen by now, but I asked him to weigh in here on your talk page. Do you mind? Flyer22 (talk) 19:06, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
No of course not, it's fine! Lova Falk talk 19:07, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
No, this is not me. It seems I have an impersonator. - a boat that can float! (watch me float) 13:05, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Oops! Must be someone who admires you. Face-smile.svg But I'll help checking his/her contributions. Lova Falk talk 20:12, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, Floating Boat. Whether the IP admires you or not, the IP doing that is horrible. I took your user name off the comment and put the IP's user name against it. The IP has also been warned about this by an administrator on his or her talk page. Glad that I checked into this. I think I've seen something like that before, which made me more suspicious of an IP signing a comment with a user name. Turns out that he or she had gotten the Wikipedia UTC date wrong anyway. Flyer22 (talk) 01:00, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
I see that you were the one who sought action against this, however. I hope that it doesn't happen to you again, or any of us (if it hasn't already). It's awful that we can't do anything to stop this type of thing from happening. One of the many downsides of allowing non-registered editing on Wikipedia. Flyer22 (talk) 01:15, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
You are quite right Flyer22. I joked but it is serious. Lova Falk talk 07:36, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Dear Lova, Thank you for the welcome to wiki! The info you provided was very helpful, and I look forward to putting it to good use!

Firecatalta (talk) 12:17, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Nice to hear this! Face-smile.svg Lova Falk talk 12:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


Hello, I'm leaving you a message here; I'm Factmaven and you messaged me about removing links I took the time to add to a number of pages. I would like to discuss this. The audio programs I am offering as External Links are with reputable sources and recognized experts. Perhaps you would prefer a different sort of citation, perhaps with the Radio Station call letters, such as shown in the external links of this author.

Please let me know a better way to have this conversation. I did not see a message box, for instance and I'm not sure how to actually converse about this unless we have a phone conversation or at least have a more direct form of messaging. Kindly advise me about the potential of gaining a better understanding of the way to share the interviews and documentary programs as references/links for interested people to access via Wikipedia searches.

Thank you, Factmaven — Preceding unsigned comment added by Factmaven (talkcontribs) 17:08, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Factmaven, thank you for your message. I will answer you but not now, because it's been a tough day at work and I am tired. I'll get back to you during the weekend! Lova Falk talk 20:34, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Once more hi to you Factmaven, in case you wonder when you will get your answer, I have asked here if I was wrong removing your links. I hope I'll soon answer you! Lova Falk talk 09:47, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Finally, my final answer. I have asked in several places, but I haven't been able to get a clear answer about your links. So this is what I'll do: I won't remove them if you put them back in. Thank you for your patience! Lova Falk talk 18:10, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

This message to me was misplaced and I didn't see it before I wrote my final answer: Hi again, Lova Falk. I do not see a message "box" on your talk page and so I don't know how best to message you. You received my last, so I'm just writing here and hope you'll receive this message promptly. I would like you to reinstate the links I had taken quite a bit of time to add as sources in Addiction, Entheogens, Psychedelics, Hallucinogens, Opiod dependency and Drug Rehabilitation as well as the parenting ones for my other recent production. If PhDs and internationally recognized people in these fields are re-posting the program link on their sites, why shouldn't the link be available to the world of people searching for information and in need of help and treatment? What evidence do you wish for in the way of credentials? Let me please provide what you need, but I am asking that you do not censor my work from the public eye; this is unfair and discriminatory. I produce programs as a public service and they are meant to be available to the public. Wikipedia is a trusted source, but so are the programs I am producing. We are partners in bringing valuable information to the public free of charge. Some people, auditory learners, gain more from audio than from text. Please let me know what you need from me to reinstate my links. Thank you very much, Lova Falk, for the service you provide to Wikipedia. Respectfully, Jari Chevalier, Host/Producer

Hi Lova Falk,

I received your "final" message earlier today and went back in and added the external links in the appropriate Wikipedia articles.

Thank you and best wishes,

Factmaven — Preceding unsigned comment added by Factmaven (talkcontribs) 01:32, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

  1. ^ This does not permit you to link to any page that is violating someone else's copyright. This means that if you cannot include the material in the Wikipedia article because it is copyrighted, then you may link to the copyright owner's page. See WP:COPYLINK.