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Have A Happy New Year Shyam!!!! | From Wilsbadkarma
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please revert changes to mycomorphbox

Hello Shyam Bihari - thanks for trying to use the commons version of the icons in the mycomorphbox. However, substituting the commons name is causing non english words to appear on many pages. See for example amanita muscaria which now says "cap is plan or välvd." Can you please revert your recent burst of changes to these mushroom pages, or re-tool the template to fix the problem. I would suggest the former, all else being equal, because messing up that template would interfere with about 180 pages. Debivort 07:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Debivort, the images will have to be replaced by commons images. I do not seek any goodness in reverting the changes. I would say to make appropriate changes in the template to remove the non-english word. Could you make some changes in the template to solve this problem. I would request you for not reverting changes which will cause to restore the images which are already available on commons. Regards, Shyam (T/C) 07:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm dissapointed in your response. You are using a policy "commons images are preferable over images" to excuse a bunch of edits that have reduced the quality of pages. And then you want me to mop up the changes by adapting the template. It would be more appropriate if either: 1) you reverted the changes and made the articles once again legible or 2) fixed the template yourself. I am currently on vacation and do not have the time to recode the template. So I will leave it in your hands whether or not you want to leave the articles in their current damaged condition. Debivort 08:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello Shyam, Thanks for reverting the changes to the mycomorphbox, and the pages that transclude it. It looks like things are back to normal now. If it's any consolation - all the commons versions of the icons are still available for use on the other projects, which is really the goal of exporting images to the commons I suppose. Cheers, Debivort 06:18, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Daily image deletion subcategories

Hello, could you please tell me what the template for starting subcategories of Category:Images with the same name on Wikimedia Commons is? It looks like it should be {{Images with the same name on Wikimedia Commons subcategory starter}}, but this template surprisingly doesn't exist. Conscious 16:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Now I have created the templates, and the links to create subcategories seem to work. Conscious 10:32, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Image tagging for Image:Pakistan_lifted_2006_U-19_Cricket_World_Cup_Trophy.jpg

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Replacing an image to add source information

Re: Image:BoyGeorge.jpg - an image you deleted -- I would like to request an undeletion, so I may add source information to the photo, as indicated.

Thank you!

Jenolen speak it! 22:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I have undeleted the image as of now. Please add the source to the image as soon as possible. Adding fair use rationale (not necessary) would be appericiable. Regards, Shyam (T/C) 05:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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IRA Volunteer

Have you actually read any of the discussions, arguments or REASONING given on this mediation page? You have made a decision but have changed your mind on the subject at least three times. Now you have made a decision without giving any reasons. I know why you haven’t given any reasons - it is because there is NO REASAON WHAT SO EVER not to allow members of IRA's be called by their rank of Volunteer - you are just trying to appease instead of actually making a logical decision. You really need to give some reasons for your proposed solution because it is totally ridiculous to split the various IRA's and ignore the rank of Volunteer in all IRA's - How the hell can you have various members of the current IRA have ranks such as - Army Council Officer, Chief of Staff, Quartermaster General, Commander etc etc but not have the most basic rank - it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever - I am probably going to leave wiki if you are aloud to get away with total crazyness like this - you are obviously ignorant of the issues at hand and are just trying to appease those making the most noise instead of making a correct decision Vintagekits 21:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Shyam, I went out and took some photos of a grave stone of a local IRA man called Joseph MacManus that was killed during an ambush in 1992, in the photo you can see how the rank of Volunteer (and its Irish translate Oglach) was used - see here Image:MacManus Headstone Straight.jpg, I hope this assists --Vintagekits 22:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:E and H Plane PD-h-yagi.png

I have not been back to Wikipedia in a while. My diagram Image:E and H Plane PD-h-yagi.png certainly contains the following notice:

This diagram shows the E and H Planes for a horizontally polarized yagi antenna. Note that the E-Plane is horizontal and H-Plane is vertical. I, Konrad Roeder, created this image for Wikipedia, but have released it into the public domain.

Clearly, I created the image and released it into the public domain. So I'm having a difficulty in understanding the copyright issue you have. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kgrr (talkcontribs) 02:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC).

Kerala Portal

Hey Shyam! Thanks for the review. I've been quite busy these last two days and haven't been able to attend to them. Will surely get to them by this weekend. Regards, --thunderboltz(Deepu) 15:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

IRA Volunteer use

Hi Shyam, I'd just like to point out that User:Vintagekits is posting the following to certain users on their talk page, hence the large number of "disagrees" we are seeing:

"Go to this page, an Indian guy is being forced by Loyalists and West Brit who are demanding that the rank of Volunteer is banned for describing the rank of members of the IRA – if you do not voice your opinion on this then they are going to get away with this bull Vintagekits 22:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)"

Retrieved from ""

Surely this amounts to: 1. Several personal attacks (see West Brit); 2. Canvassing; 3. Not assuming good faith (I doubt any of us are 'loyalists' or 'West Brits', and he is implying that your nationality has something to do with your decision). 15:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC) (Logica)

1. Since when is it a personal attack to be a West Brit or Loyalist? 2. Canvassing? I sent it to editors already involved in the discussion! 3. I always assume good faith --Vintagekits 15:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Loyalists and West Brits? Indian Guy? I don't see any need for this kind of sectarianism and racism on wiki. I think some action needs to be taken against Vintagekits here, which is a pity as he has been fair enough to deal with in the past but he has overstepped the mark Weggie 16:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Stop trying to stir up trouble Weggie! Shyam is Indian and a Guy - what is the problem with that? Stop trying to cause trouble --Vintagekits 16:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Please stop editing-war on my talk page. I had already said to Vintagekits, not to campaign for the mediation cabal. It is really a serious problem. I would say all of you to get cooled down. I would say to Vintagekits to assume good faith on others. Regards, Shyam (T/C) 16:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree, and when Shyam asked me not to inform anyone else - I assumed good faith and did so at his request --Vintagekits 17:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

==Image:Mastigias-papua.jpg== (this works)
Image:JellyfishAtMBA.jpg (this is broken despite a redirect)


While I appreciate your moving the image to Commons, adding the proper binomial name, and updating my user page by fixing the sidebar image, you missed a second display of this in my gallery of weekly images. I attempted to add a redirect from the old name Image:JellyfishAtMBA.jpg but this failed. Perhaps this is a deficiency in the server software. As you have deleted the original, I assume that you have administrator status and will know who to contact in on the WP technical side. Try:Image:JellyfishAtMBA.jpg, this is the redirect and it is broken. The broken image at right will lead to an upload page. This is inconsistant behaviour from the server. Also adding a comment to the redirect page causes the full size image to be displayed on the redirect page! (not tested to see if this fixes the redirect problem)

Best wishes, - Leonard G. 05:43, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Odd table

Hello Shyam, do you happen to be any good with strange wikitables? I'm pretty advanced but I have got one that even I can't change what I need to change.--WilsBadKarma (Talk/Contribs) 07:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok here is what I'm dealing with. The list that I'm using the table on is List of United States Navy ratings. I'm using a template for each rating Template:Military_list. The template is a variation of Template:Episode list that I created, it's a table used for Television episodes. Anyway the problem I'm having is with the Military list template I want to put a colored line or spacer in between each rating in all the tables that it produces. I can add one if I put a <br> in between each template set on the list page it will display a blue line but it's huge and I want it smaller. I have screwed around with this thing for three days now and can't seem to fix it. If you happen to see how to fix the problem I would appreciate it. --WilsBadKarma (Talk/Contribs) 22:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Can I use the image?

Ararat image can I use ? Ararat arev 07:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

May i add that this user has been harassing me in Armenian and flooding my page with messages when i asked him to stop. Nareklm 07:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Why did you remove ? Ararat arev 07:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

My Indian friend :) We use to be together in the kingdom of Mitanni. You had Indra there :) We the "Aryans" were together during Mitanni's kingdom, and from that point you and Persians migrated to your lands. Ararat arev 08:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ararat arev, thanks for you comments, but please avoid biasing Wikipedia regional-wise. Images from could not be made available as the website staes, "NO PART OF THIS WEBSITE MAY BE USED WITHOUT EXPLICIT PERMISSION FROM THE WEBMASTER". So I would request you to make self-request for the uploaded image from that website by using {{db-author}}. You could check out image use policies. Regards, Shyam (T/C) 08:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

No this photo is not from I got permissions for those by Lara and she emails and approved them. Im talking about this one Ararat arev 08:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Image:Ararat3.jpg, I am sorry to delete that image due to misconception after extensive vandalism. Thanks for re-uploading the image, but it would be better if you upload free-images on commons. Regards, Shyam (T/C) 08:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Do they have picture of Mount Ararat there? See im looking for one like this one with the twin peaks showing, not just the higher peak, but both of them. Ararat arev 08:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

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Breaking mediation

Shyam, User:Vintagekits has changed "PIRA bomber" to "PIRA Volunteer" here:

He's been warned enough times about violating Wikipedia policy with regards the mediation process. Something must be done. Logoistic 20:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC) Bomber is NPOV and the edit was part of a total rewrite of the article - you are again acting in bad faith and trying to cause trouble which is not aprriciated.--Vintagekits 20:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Overview of teays ohio network 500 arrows.jpg

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Ellis Paul deletion

Shyam, please tell me how to add the sound samples to my article without getting into trouble (again). Thank you for your time. Kmzundel 11:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Shyam, does a sound sample equate to an image then? Kmzundel 15:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

FA count

Trying to understand why you altered the FA count: pls have a look at this page. I thought this was whitelisted so this couldn't happen. Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I didn't understand your message at all (??) - as the history shows, three FAs were removed by WP:FAR, and the bot automatically corrects the number - it shouldn't be manually changed. We supposedly had a whitelist of approved users so this wouldn't happen, so I suspect the whitelist isn't working correctly. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for your comments. I've responded to them... Just to remind you that Portal:China is not a country portal though. Cheers. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 18:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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hi, i'm not sure if you are the correct adress. i adress you because you are member of the mediation committee. user has written this on the discussion page of the article of hrant dink (who has been killed recently): "Its good that this man is dead. Let it be clear to everyone that whoever insults turkey insults the deep rooted nationalism of turks. SO he went to far, and faced the consequences. I say we have 1 problem less now."

i'm not sure if this is deleted already. i saw that this user has already been blocked. BUT TO WRITE THIS ABOUT A JOURNALIST WHO HAS BEEN KILLED RECENTLY BY A NATIONALIST SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO BLOCKED FOREVER!

dear mr bihari, if this is not in your competence please tell me where i have to adress to. thank you,

--Severino 20:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Taj Mahal RFC

I've filed an RFC relating to the Taj Mahal at Talk:Taj Mahal#Request for Comment: Inclusion of minority points of view. Your comments would be most welcome. Joopercoopers 18:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

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What was the problem with FIFA_Club_World_Cup_2006_logo.gif? It should be a logo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shmuliko (talkcontribs) 14:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC).

Mediation Committee nomination

Good evening (GMT time); I'd like to thank you for making your opinion known at my MedCom nomination - you oppose me as a member of the mediation committee, and I respect that. My apologies for posting this request quite late - I've been off on another project experimenting with my new user rights (I'm a CheckUser now!) so I've been busy over there. However, my request is this: I'd like to enquire behind your reasons for opposing my nomination to the Mediation Committee (at w:en), so that I can adjust my services to Wikipedia in order to become a more suitable Mediator and accomplish my aim of assisting to resolve disputes amongst our Editors.

I await your reply, and offer your thanks in advance.

Kindest regards,
Anthonycfc [TC] 22:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Sam Kweskin

Hi. I was wondering if you could tell me about the deletion of the Sam Kweskin image taken from a U.S. Army site. U.S. government photos are public domain. Thanks for any info! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tenebrae (talkcontribs) 15:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

All done! Hadn't uploaded an Army photo before. I applied the tag {{PD-USGov-Military-Army}} to SamKweskin.jpg (with no underscore on the re-upload). Thanks for getting back to me! --Tenebrae 20:11, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ho Silver Lining

Why have you deleted this please? It was work in progress, is well known 60s pop song and was a resolved redlink

Please reinstate . (I was busy addinmg to it!) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Linuxlad (talkcontribs) 17:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

Come - you've got to give me at least an hour or two to add content to a resolved redlink! Please be more patient/considerate Bob aka Linuxlad 17:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

re: Need maintenace for Portal:Anarchism

Thanks for your interest. Please note that Portal:Anarchism has been under construction and had not yet been added to the portals directory. Therefore there should be no urgent need to remove. However, I will be making some updates and then adding it to the appropriate directories and categories, as it will fulfill the description of being "complete and browseable, but still require work" as written on Category:Portals_under_construction

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Why did y

Why did you edit my page about teh entarweb?

It was a serious planned project, and after getting home from my computer class I find it deleted..? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AquaStreak (talkcontribs) 23:22, 27 January 2007 (UTC).

Image:Beth Smith.png

I have re-edited the Beth Smith, and think it might benefit from the South Park image you deleted (per here). Is there a way that you can re-upload it with your admin powers, or would it require a new image (would need a more accurate name, anyways).--Tim Thomason 03:14, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

The image isn't exactly what I expected, but thanks for undeleting the file.--Tim Thomason 06:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I already tagged the image and placed it on the Beth Smith page. I'll probably just see how it turns out there.--Tim Thomason 06:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
You're right, I'm not too smart sometimes. Although my plan was to use it to illustrate Beth Smith's pop culture section, it doesn't fall under the tv-screenshot/fair use guidelines (not used to talk illustrate source material, e.g. South Park (too insignificant) or Miss Teacher Bangs a Boy (too many pictures already). As such, I will remove it from the Beth Smith page and give my "blessing" if you wish it deleted.--Tim Thomason 07:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Uhh... yeah, thanks. That was fun. Sorry for the half-hour diversion.--Tim Thomason 07:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

re: Image:Ulucamii-turkey-2001.jpg

i saw you tagged it on the commons. the author had used the pd-user template, doesn't that mean it is eligible for commercial usage? or is it because of the non-PD conditions he laid down in the "Permission" field? regards, ITAQALLAH 11:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

thanks for your response. OK, so the image isn't actually public domain because the author said: "I respectfully request that anyone using this image credit it to me and not claim it as their own"? about the authorship of the image, the tag used was PD-user-en, suggesting that the flickr author (birdsfarm) is the uploader (Vcrs). i will try to obtain clarification from Vcrs though. regards. ITAQALLAH 13:10, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


Just curious -- where can I find the history and the reasons for deletion of this image? Karl Hahn (T) (C) 14:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've tagged the Anhinga, jimfbleak 15:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for finally blocking User:Vintagekits, but three hours is nowhere near enough time for this guy to change his behaviour. Even Adminsitrator Zoe accused him of harrassment.

His multitude of offenses, if you read my litany at the Mediation site or choose to review his discussion page ( show a deep-seated propensity to do whatever he wants, insult others, edit other people's work usually without notice or just cause, put his own political slant on almost everything to do with the IRA/PIRA and rely almost entirely on pro-IRA media outlets and websites. The last, I think, is most serious, as we are entering a gray area. Is there anything that can be done about the last, because then everyone can/will use biased or inflammatory sites.

As far as what you wrote on his blocklog about the use of the term Volunteer, as applied to the IRA, I didn't really understand it. Could you re-explain. I am a big dummy, I guess.

Thanks. El chulito 15:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I have a long list of incidents of him breaking of policy that I could give you (I can even give you the links). Logoistic 17:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Lets get this straight.
  1. Shyam can you point out exactly why you blocked me?
  2. I have NOT broken with the mediation here or been uncivil to El chulito, if anyone cares to look are the discussion page for me and him today they will see who broke WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. We had agreed not to change Volunter for member and vice versa while mediation was still ongoing. I did tell El chulito this on a number of occasions see here, here, here, and here. As you can imagine this was very frustrating.

Again I didnt not break with mediation it was El chulito as you can see here here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here - CAN ANYONE SHOW ME WHERE I BROKE WITH THE MEDIATION or was I out of order?

  1. El chulito then insisted that all references to the Irish War of Independence should be done via the revert of Anglo-Irish War. I informed him here and here but his insisted (without any discussion anywhere that Irish War of Independence was "emotive, manipulative and POV" even though it has been the name of that page for over a year. He went on to insert the redirect here, here and here
  1. When did I in breach of WP:NPA towards El chulito? El chulito began a reverting my work without reason. I therefore decided to enter into a discussion with him instead of a revert war. I carefully posed my questions and numbered them so that we could track the answers. For ewxample see here, here, here, here and here. After learning lesson over the past few week on wiki about how to deal with people I thought that this would be the most effetive way to come to a resolution. Some of the racial and personal attacks I have recieved in response were are follows-
  • "your spelling is atrocious. Does this mean you were not educated by the Irish Christian Brothers??"
  • "I knew you were educated by the ICB anyway given your Fenianism"
  • "P.S. I haven't read your last message yet (the "new messages" sign just arrived in (lol) orange) but if it's to whinge about my reference to your Fenianism, forget it, bub. If you can call people "idiots" and "West Britons" (as per User:Demiurge) then you have lost the right to squeal about WP:CIVIL." (note the Orange remark is a reference to Orangism)
  • " you are inserting a republican slant to almost everything you touch"
  • "you do not tell me what to do"
  • " am getting sick and tired of your refusal to answer directly a question posed to you rather than using some nonsense like implying that your opponent does not "abide by the rules" or is "breaking with consensus" or "POV", which you yourself do too much of, but overuse the word way too much as an accusation against others -- these are not answers, these are braindead soundbites which you employ when you cannot answer something or know you are wrong."
  • "My attitude is due to the fact that you are a wanna-be censor/revisionist."
  • "another one of your boilerplate pro-IRA news outlets"
  • "you have corrupted numerous pages related to Northern Ireland or Northern Irish people with your pro-IRA slant"
  • "As far as "Fenian", I don't think undue sensitivity will ever be a problem for you"

This is a constant barrage of abuse which I tried to rise above. If you read my and his talk pages you will see that in all cases I tried to rise above it and answer in a neutral tone, provide answers, clarify my position and I did warn him on a number of occasions regarding WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA

  1. Here
  2. and Here (only the bottom sentance is mine

I then suspect that it is possible then that he didnt want to engage in the discussion and clarification route that I was going down and was happy going down the prefered the edit war route so he left this rant. here] now forgive me if I am wrong but is that not just the opposite of what happened?] Anyway the admin on the page he posted that blocked me for three hours - shouldnt action be the other way around?

I know there is a lot to to digest and I am sure my spelling is poor but what action can be taken?--Vintagekits 20:08, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

This was because the admin unbelievably didn't think that calling someone a "West Brit" is an insult. He didn't end the matter because he didn't think it was a personal attack, because the admin was frankly totally misguided in his response, and it should have been shown to another admin. Logoistic 20:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
So Logoistic you think you know better than the admin! Are you excusing all of the above? Are you ignoring all of his breaks on the mediation - do you not remember your reaction when I changed BOMBER to Volunteer, you seem very quite of this, do you not think that is total hypocritical?--Vintagekits 21:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I didn't refer to anything El_chulito has done. I pointed out that yes, this admin was blatently wrong to let the accusation by Demiurge go. Changing "Volunteer" to "member" is just as bad as the other way around, yes. On a related note, Shyam, because Volunteer cannot (as yet) be proved as a rank, when will it be acceptable to use "memeber" as the default term over Volunteer, as per the mediation page? Logoistic 22:17, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Shyam, why did you block me for three hours?? I would like to draw your attention to this from yesterday and this from this. This shows that El Chuito (or as he is called now "new identity" is the one that is breaking with the rules of the mediation. Can you please do something about it. regards--Vintagekits 03:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Vintagekits, you have been blocked because you violated the mediation again and again. In mediation we discussed only to make a related full-referenced article. Other than this, you were being involved to make changes which were not acceptable and supportive to mediation. You made personal attacks to other users. New identity has been blocked because of the abusive sockpuppet account of El chulito. Shyam (T/C) 06:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
This is the point I am making, did not brea\k with mediation nor was I abusive, can you please show me here I was abusive and where I broke with mediation because I didnt.--Vintagekits 09:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
If you want to know and find out about your personal attacks, you could simply refer to AN/I. If you want to know about violation of mediation rules then refer to your contributions. Thank you, Shyam (T/C) 10:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I am well aware of the policies, can you please show me the edit where I broke with your advice on mediation? I dont believe I have.

Again I didnt not break with mediation it was El chulito as you can see here here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here - What is goingto be down about this?--Vintagekits 10:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

He was not involved in the case before. So he may not be aware of the discussion. If he still continues to make any contrary edits then he may be blocked as well. Shyam (T/C) 11:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I am sorry but that is not true, I did tell El chulito about the situation on a number of occasions see here, here, here, and here but he ignored it and continued to make those changes, he also continued to make the changes AFTER you had spoke to him about it.

Additonally he is not a sockpuppet the two accounts and legitamite, however, I would like some action taken over him referring to me as a Fenian, calling an Irish person a Fenian is the same as calling a black person a nigger, even if you have opposing views that kind of abuse is unacceptable. Also I would like action taken over his constant breaks in mediation and refusal to adhere to your warnings. Here are some example of him breaking with mediation after you had spoken to him - please note the times and dates. 1, 2 and 3.--Vintagekits 17:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

A mixup!

Hi there

I just placed a request for deletion on Cibubur, possibly while you deleted it. In the process, I created a page with only a deletion request on it. Would you mind deleting it again. Sorry for the trouble. And good luck India in the World Cup!


--GetDownAdam 15:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

NY Hwy Signs

I noticed that you deleted the NY Hwy signs that I'd speedy tagged this morning. Is that the best way to deal with them (G6 - Housekeeping, with a note regarding the svg file and uploader permission), or should I use a different speedy tag ({{db-author}} or {{db-i1}}) somehow, or should I really be taking them to WP:IfD even though they are non-controversial? I estimate that there are probably about another 100 of them. Thanks. ~ BigrTex 23:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer to {{Redundant}}. It looks like those images end up going to either {{db-i1}} or WP:IfD somehow - it looks like it is likely a manual process.
Based on this discussion I'm going to go ahead and work up a mass-nomination at IfD for these, since that seems to be the proper process. ~ BigrTex 16:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Poker probability (Omaha)

I replied on my talk page. —Doug Bell talk 11:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Baylen Leonard

You deleted this page (without discussion on the page itself).

--Scotthatton 13:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you for your very rapid response to my protection request (or was it coincidence?) on this page.--Anthony.bradbury 21:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. The kind thoughts which I have received from fellow wikipedians have been a source of much comfort to me.--Anthony.bradbury 21:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

"Aninmal Society"

Dear Shyam, are You sure, that the redirect of American Society of Aninmal Science cannot be speedy deleted? There is no link leading to it and I don't think it is probable someone will misspell it like that again - so it is only a useless redirect. Okino 16:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for telling that. The page has spelling mistake and supposedly useless. I could not notice that. Thanks again, Shyam (T/C) 16:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


Dear Sir:

Please stop referring to my "sockpuppet" - I did not ever intentionally create a sockpuppet. I was informed that I had to change my username (see on January 28 @23:33 by User:Asterion.

I missed all following message(s) on User:El chulito's discussion page precisely because I followed User:Asterion's instructions and immediately desisted from using that username under threat of possible block.

Your accusations against me and your HARSH indefinite block were done IN ERROR. I believe you owe me an apology.

As far as any edits done against mediation, I was never informed of which matters were in mediation, but I can imagine and I will avoid them. El chulito 17:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

  • That is not true, I did tell El chulito about the mediation situation on a number of occasions see here, here, here, and here but he ignored it and continued to make those changes, he also continued to make the changes AFTER you had spoke to him about it.

Here are some example of him breaking with mediation after you had spoken to him - please note the times and dates. 1, 2 and 3. he should be blocked for this.--Vintagekits 17:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Given User:Vintagekits' misuse of WP:CIVIL, relentless and frivolous accusations of POV against anyone who disagrees with him, and other obnoxious behavior, I took anything he stated to me with a grain of sand. Now that I have requested that he he discontinue direct communication with me I envision a far more professional and harmonious future with Wikipedia.El chulito 17:21, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  • I have not been uncivil towards you however you have broken the far worse WP:NPA policy by referring to me as a Fenian - for this you should be blocked. Secondly - you did not have to take my word for it regarding the Volunteer mediation issue - I provided you with the direct links to the page where it was being discussed. You even posted a messege on that page - so that shows you were aware of the issue. Even after you posted the messege on the page you continued to breach mediation after that. - for this you should be blocked.--Vintagekits 17:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Do not start edit-wars. I would request you both to please cool down. I assume you both will help to close the mediation in the right direction. If you really want to do help in closing mediation then please make your contributions to this article rather than involving yourself in the edit wars. Thanks for your help, Shyam (T/C) 17:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  • I would like to avoid an edit war - however, unless El chulito self reverts all the occasion where he removed Volunteer and replaced it with member then action should be taken against him.--Vintagekits 17:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  • I do not agree on this matter. To avoid any edit wars I would not like to say much as some edits also have been made by you which are against the mediation. So let all the edits remain as they are and stop edit wars. Thanks, Shyam (T/C) 17:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Show me ONE edit that I made that was against mediation, ONE!. I have NEVER changed member for Volunteer since this started. He came along and has just changed 10 articles that stated Volunteer to now show member. Shouldnt they be changed back now that he is aware of the issue? lets be fair here! You blocked me you three hours for nothing yet he piles a trirade of personal abuse on me and nothing happens - are you going to take any action over him calling me a Fenian???--Vintagekits 17:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  • I am producing some cases, [2], [3], [4], where you do not follow the mediation. During mediation, an involved member should stay away from related contrary edits and edit-wars on the related page to get the concensus. There are many exaples of edits made by you which are related to remove the categories from articles without discussing other contributors. So, refrain yourself too to avoid breaking mediation rules. I hope, you would utilise your energy towards closing mediation. Thanks, Shyam (T/C) 18:40, 31 January 2007 (UTC)