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		The Turkish Barnstar of National Merit
		I, CeeGee, award you the Turkish Barnstar of National Merit in appreciation of your continuous efforts to create and improve contemporary Music of Turkey related pages in English Wikipedia and a wide range of Turkey related articles in Hungarian Wikipedia. Keep it up! CeeGee (talk) 11:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

C-JeS

Hi! Wikipedia is not a fanclub. You wrote sentences like "she feels like Cjes is a family". This is not encyclopedic material. Please refrain from writing blog entries into an encyclopedia. Referenced or not, there are things we don't accept stylictically. WP:NPOV. And your sentences were also grammatically incorrect. Teemeah 편지 (letter) 13:00, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

On late August 2014, C-JeS Entertainment also managed to signed actress-singer Hwang Jung-eum after a fierce competition.[4][5] She stated that C-JeS artists make her feels like a real family.[6]

Hi,

Ok first of all, there were no grammatical errors in my deleted paragraph. On the other hand, may I point out that "stylictically" was incorrect?

And second, there should be nothing wrong in quoted/wrote "feels like a real family". That was based on real interview with the actress herself, as translated from tv daily by the reference source. That wasn't writing blog entries, you don't write a blog like that. And it was also an encyclopedic material, as it informs readers as to why she chooses to join C-JeS and how she is viewing C-JeS and it's artists, the same purposes as to why there are also writings like "He reportedly chose C-Jes after working with Song Ji-hyo in movie New World." and "Baek has directly said in the interview that C-JeS was established solely because of JYJ." on the page.

Plus I realized that you also deleted "after a fierce competition" part of my first sentence, where it was actually also a true statement given by an industry insider taken and translated from a verifiable Korean news material. Feels free to ask the admin(s) about whether or not my contribution is allowed to. Until then, I see no reason why the paragraph must be deleted. Thank you.--180.245.167.215 (talk) 04:15, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

you mean..

Sorry to bothering you. I read some Copyright Policy on wikipedia that you directed. And first of all, I am sorry that I didn't check Copyright Policy before uploading. But I don't know exactly what they say.So they mean.. If I want to upload photo of living people , that photo must be a free license? I dont know what is the meaning of the free license. Limited permission from author that only is allowed to use that photo in wikipedia doesn't work in wikipedia? It is not allowed in wikipedia? Even I got permission, but the photo must be a non limited photo to use? Or.. Its a matter of demonstrating procedure? Sorry again. Beahye (talk) 22:48, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Zhang Yimou

Hi. I see you have just added a reference for Zhang Yimou's date of birth, the Farquhar reference. However, when I checked it I got "Error 404 - Not Found" as it is an obsolete URL, so I've searched the site and found it in the archive. It also appears that his birth date is disputed, with some sources giving it as 1951, so I have included a source for 1951 too, from Britannica -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:44, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please help me?

Hi Teemeah! I have seen that you have created samples of Tarkan's songs on the Hungarian wiki. If I was to send you a song would you be able to create a short sample of it for me please? I eagerly wait for your reply. Turco85 (Talk) 10:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bir deneyim bakayim :P I'll let you know if I need more help. Cok tesekkurler. Turco85 (Talk) 22:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

heey

ben tarkanın gitmediğini biliorum sadece onun gideceği hakkında haber koyuyorum ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by On 15 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

heey

esc sitelerine bakmanı öneririm :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by On 15 (talk • contribs) 10:25, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

:)

ben burda komiklik yapmaya çalışmıyorum zaten bnde o yalan haberleri bildiğim için bu haberleri koymuyorum ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by On 15 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rákóczi Museum, Tekirdağ

Hi! I guess you might be interested in translating the artical Rákóczi Museum, Tekirdağ into Hungarian language. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 12:52, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Kedves Teemeah!

Hogyan lehet kommunikálni veled? Tegnap hagytame gy üzenetet valamilyen nyilvános faladon valamilyen kupa formájában. Azt láttad? Köszönöm

Lajos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.98.42.108 (talk) 08:54, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I see you keep reverting the addition of Farsi script into Tarkan (singer). Are the IP editors inserting erroneous/objectionable material? Not reading Farsi I can't tell, but if you gave an explanation in the edit summary I'd be happy to support you, so it didn't appear in any way you are edit warring. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 21:13, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Seventeen is also not debutet. And it's not comfirmed that they debuting in next time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpopfan1234 (talk • contribs) 11:51, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kpop groups

YG also said that the girl group will debut in early 2013. JYJ was two times there. I removed one. TVXQ sales 2012 less Albums than Bigbang and digital are they really bad. Bigbang are pysical and digital very good. I know what wikipedia is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpopfan1234 (talk • contribs) 08:37, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I won't change this list anymore. I hope that you are now happy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpopfan1234 (talk • contribs) 08:36, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I know that Super Junior sales more Albums in 2012. Albums sales more than Minialbums. But Album sales are not the only thing, digital sales also must be good for the most succesful band. Super Junior and TVXQ sales just many albums. They are digital not very well. Bigbang are digital monsters and sales many albums. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpopfan1234 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ölü Bölgeden Fısıltılar (2012)

Hi! Thanks for your reply! For the article Ölü Bölgeden Fısıltılar, I generally need help fleshing out the information with the sources given in the article as well as searching for anything else that might be out there. I also have a bit of a language barrier when it comes to the user that created the article. I think he might speak Turkish, but I'm not sure. Almost all of the coverage the film has received has been in Turkish, so that's the main reason behind my assuming this. The big thing is that he keeps re-adding information to the article that is already in the infobox or otherwise redundant to the article. Really, any help would be wonderful.Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:17, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gulgun G

Merhaba, Sayfada yayinladigim tum fotograflar produksiyon firmasi(ParadoksFilm) tarafindan cekilmistir. Izinsiz hicbir fotograf ya da icerik kullanilmamistir. Tesekkurler,

What Are You Talking About? O_o

I did not add unsourced information on the AJ/Kim Jaeseop page. Where the heck did you get that from? Did you even look at it? O_o Every single fact is backed up with a link. That's BS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk • contribs) 21:53, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

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Proposals

Hi Teemeah. Thanks for joining in the discussion. I've left you a reply in Talk:K-pop, just in case you weren't aware. Stateofyolandia (talk) 19:42, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey! I got your message about my edit on G.O.'s wiki page. Sorry for not having read up on wikipedia's policy of how to edit pages on living people, I'm still relatively new to editing here. However, I do have a quick question about the edit, since I know it to be true. Would a reliable source be a news site in Korea and/or a quote from G.O. himself? If so, how would I go about citing that? Any help you could provide would be great! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twist3dBushido (talk • contribs) 20:39, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your advice really does help! Thank you again! I have another quick follow-up question, though. If G.O. was interviewed with MBLAQ on a blog's variety show where he revealed this information along with the other members, is that still considered not a valid source? Thank you again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twist3dBushido (talk • contribs) 22:01, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It was "All the K-Pop" in July of last year. Here is the article: http://www.allkpop.com/article/2013/07/mblaq-reveal-go-is-narcoleptic-and-even-falls-asleep-while-singing

Here is the show. Sorry, I couldn't find the English translation. xP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K1w6X-40x8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twist3dBushido (talk • contribs) 22:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! I dont know if you are the right person to ask this but I would really appreciate if you could help me editing this page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.A.P_Live_On_Earth_2014_Continent_Tour

I created this page some time ago and the concert table was fine until recently. I just noticed today that somehow now it is under reference instead of concerts. I cant figure out why it got moved down there or how to move it back. If you could shed some light into this I would really appreciate it. Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nutellaforbap (talk • contribs) 23:39, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BAP

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Heritage preservation in South Korea is now a GA!

And passed. Good job! What will you work on next? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:17, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: Thank you. I'm not sure I will try again :) The rules seem to be a lot less flexible than in my home wiki (this article is FA there), and since I am not a native speaker, there will always be complaints about grammar. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 11:20, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As a native English speaker myself, I think you are doing quite fine here. But getting a FA level here is next to impossible without substantial help from native speakers. That's why I mostly abandoned FA and focus on GA level those days... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:23, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: Indeed, that's my conclusion, as well. I'm not sure it's worth the energy to translate my featured articles to English when they could at best be GA here. I have a couple that are nowhere near GA in enwiki (mostly Korean history related articles) and I was thinking about improving them based on my huwiki articles but I am not sure people wouldn't pick on grammar and stuff. Btw, can I place {{Good article}} in to the article? :) Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 11:32, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure if the the template is added manually or by a bot, you may want to check the documentation. I'd recommend translating your work here, as English Wikipedia articles are read by many more than any others. Are you familiar with the page history view tool? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:34, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: Yes, of course. I'm on old fox in wiki, in my 9th year now (though I am of course more comfortable in my home wiki environment). I don't really mind how many people read my articles :) If I did, I wouldn't write articles for huwiki at all, since the number of people interested in Korean stuff is not really high there. I write because I like learning about these things anyway. But it's easier to write in my native tongue than in English. :) I wrote smaller articles for enwiki and did a lot of smaller corrections and sourcing but this article was my first major length "trial" and so far I am not really satisfied with the result :) Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 11:42, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Society in the Joseon Dynasty

On 23 June 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Society in the Joseon Dynasty, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in late Joseon society, commoner Korean women who had fulfilled their Confucian duty to produce a son bared their breasts in public as a sign of pride? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Society in the Joseon Dynasty. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DramaWiki and blacklisting versus reliability

Hi. First, I want to compliment your rewrite of the English Wikipedia article "Korean Drama". It is for the first time a solid introduction to the topic.

While you were working on it you took the time to reply to something I'd written in the talk page, while I was writing the first version of the "history" section, when I suggested that Wikipedia blacklists the site DramaWiki (whose URL I can't give here as a result: wiki dot d-addicts dot com) because Wikipedians were "pissed off" that DramaWiki does a better job than Wikipedia on the things it does. (Non-random example: Wikipedia *still* doesn't have a page for Eyes of Dawn.)

Your reply essentially pointed out that DramaWiki isn't a reliable source because it's a wiki. Well, actually, I've been finding out, by watching K-dramas' onscreen credits, that DramaWiki really *isn't* reliable. (Neither it, nor English nor Korean Wikipedia, credit Bu Seong-cheol, director of Star's Lover and My Girlfriend Is a Nine-Tailed Fox, with co-directing about half of You're Beautiful, but according to the onscreen credits, he did. Also none of the three has a page about him. This is just the latest of about half a dozen such finds I've come across.)

However, what you're ignoring is that unreliable references get deleted; they don't get blacklisted. Blacklisting a site, so that it's impossible to link to it from a Wikipedia page, is only done for abuse of Wikipedia. So what abuse did DramaWiki perpetrate that led to its blacklisting?

As it happens, during the discussions that led me to stop editing Wikipedia articles, I found out. And here it is:

DramaWiki got too popular.

No, I'm serious. This was early in the site's history; it probably wasn't then the invaluable resource it has since become. So yeah, I was wrong as to *what* Wikipedians got "pissed off" *about*, but not about what happened. DramaWiki was blacklisted because there were hundreds of links to it, in some cases multiple links in a single article, and this was interpreted as "spamming" Wikipedia *even though the links were established as the independent work of many contributors*.

Of course, the fact that DramaWiki is a sub-site of a massive copyright infringer made it easier for the people involved to ignore the idiocy of their position.

See English Wikipedia's November 2008 blacklisting of DramaWiki.

Now, the inability to link to it, and give proper credit, hasn't prevented people from plagiarising DramaWiki; besides the previous Eyes of Dawn article see my survey of 24 dramas' articles which found DramaWiki plagiarised in one fourth. (This survey is way down from the point that link lands you at; it has its own heading, beginning "Plagiarism".) It would, of course, be easier to catch improper reliance on this unreliable source if such plagiarism could be acknowledged with references.

An attempt to overturn the blacklisting was rejected in 2011, no longer on the grounds of spam, but explicitly on the grounds that the parent site is a copyright infringer. Still, it was originally blacklisted because Wikipedians were jealous, just as I said.

Joe Bernstein joe@sfbooks.com

66.212.64.164 (talk) 21:56, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. That's your own opinion. I'm not going to try to convince you. I'm tired of trying to convince people to read wikipedia's rules before they comment. I've been a Wikipedian for nine years and know this system in and out. I will keep on writing Wikipedia from reliable sources, and couldn't care less about Dramawiki being on a blacklist. Cuz you know those data are all available on reliable sites, too. You just need to spend time looking for them (and learn to read some Hangul). Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 14:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Sorry to take so long to reply. I got mad when I first read your answer and didn't want to keep it up, but now see that I can be sorta dispassionate.

I'm not saying DramaWiki should be cited as a reliable source. I am saying that I found some evidence when I did my survey that people do try to cite sources instead of just openly plagiarising, and being unable to link to DramaWiki impedes that, which in turn makes the rampant plagiarism harder to spot. (I'm not talking about their data. I found in 24 Wikpedia articles six cases where Wikipedia was explicitly quoting DramaWiki's *text* synopses, and in every single one I found proof that DramaWiki was first. If 1/4 of Wikipedia's K-drama articles plagiarise DramaWiki, that's about 100 articles plagiarising a single site. Which Wikipedia explicitly blacklists on the grounds that *it* infringes copyrights!)

Separately, because numerous pages link to Hancinema, which also has its own Wikipedia article, but no pages can link to DramaWiki, which doesn't, Wikipedia is essentially taking sides between competing anglophone K-drama wikis. Tsk tsk.

As for reading rules, one reason I'm not editing Wikipedia any more is that I got fed up with reading rules whose worth nobody saw fit to explain to me. In the last weeks before I gave up I probably read around 100 Wikipedia pages about Wikipedia's rules. As I said at the time, this site has a pretty horrendous problem re newbies.

Oh, and Hangul. Um, I don't know how K-dramas are delivered in Hungary, but the forms in which I see them don't translate the senior crew credits usually shown near the beginning of each episode. What I said about Bu Seong-cheol comes from reading Hangul.

Finally, thanks for the pointer to the original author of "The Rise and Fall of the K-Drama Empire". Now to see if I can find the pieces With S2 doesn't offer.

Joe Bernstein joe@sfbooks.com

108.179.186.159 (talk) 05:34, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seoul Metropolitan Subway - updated number

Hello Teemeah,

Thanks for editing the Seoul Metropolitan Subway page. I checked the link today and the link isn't working. The IP address link is from the statistics website of the Korean government, nice job! But please fix the link when you can. I'd love to see what other information is there. Thanks~ ₪RicknAsia₪ 01:00, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rickinasia, thanks for letting me know. Probably the statistics table generates a new link for each retrieval. I will try to use the main link instead and give short instructions on how to open the specific table. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 08:00, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting issue. Thanks for letting me know what you found out! Best~ ₪RicknAsia₪ 08:09, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rickinasia, I corrected it. The original link (the one I gave now) changes to an IP address-link in the course of a couple of seconds as the table loads. Never seen this method before. Korean IT is mysterious in its working ways. But the link should work now, please let me know if it doesn't. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 08:12, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Korean drama

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Korean language

Hi Teemeah,

I was wondering if you could tell me the structure of the Korean sentences. If you would it would be great!!! I'm learning Korean, but it's difficult with the pronunciation of the words, also the writing. I can write names, but that's it. How did you learn Korean?

How did you get these things, did you make them or received it;

fan-3

This user loves K-pop.

fan-3

This user loves BIGBANG.

I love k-pop, my favourite groups are Shinee, Infinite, Big Bang and CNBLUE. Could you tell me my name in Korean, it's Henneke.

By the way I'm from Holland, Rotterdam.

thanks, ;) Running Man 1 (talk) 16:50, 15 August 2014 (UTC) ~ fighting ~ (like they say on Running Man, if yo uknow the series!!)[reply]

Feedback

I typed a MoS for WP Korea and new editors of Korea-related articles at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Biography#Guidelines. In need of feedback. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 18:43, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Korean drama

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2013 in South Korean music and 2014 in South Korean music

These two, 2013 in South Korean music#Japanese releases by Korean artists and 2014 in South Korean music#Japanese releases by Korean artists, should be moved to 2013 in Japanese music and 2014 in Japanese music since the listing is for releases in South Korea. Seems like you are the only person who can handle this. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 02:18, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Jay2kx:, I am not sure... Then we should include any American etc. releases in Japan, too. It may be too complicated in the end. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 08:03, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Thanks. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 14:16, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Photo in Wikimedia Commons

Thank you for your advice. The photo I put in the article "Jaejoong" is the one I searched from Wikimedia Commons [File:Kim jaejoong-WWW.png]. As I observe that the photo is put in the Chinese version of the same artist's article, please let me know if I may use it so that the photo used in the artist's article of different languages would be identical. Desireewomg (talk) 1:55, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Jun K.

It was reverted under Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials The license is not clear and valid. The photo was also shown to have been in use on other websites. Mikepellerin (talk) 19:09, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The photo you just changed it to has a clear copy and trademark on the image. It was cropped. [1] Just because an image is in commons doesn't mean it's cleared to be used on wikipedia itself. Mikepellerin (talk) 19:36, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Mikepellerin: Did you check the licence on the Wasabcon website? No, you didn't. That site has been donating pictures to Wikipedia for a long time now and they also use the Korean CC licence. It has also been checked by Commons admins several times previously. Instead of just judging quickly, how about you actually make the effort to find out why a photo is licenced as such? Having been posted previously on an other website doesn't mean it is not free licence. We get a bunch of photos from Flickr and other repositories as well. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 08:44, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Check:

Understand, I'm not fighting or arguing with you. I'm a Hottest! I would love to have updated versions of pics for 2PM, but it's not that easy. I once uploaded selca's (posted by the boys) and was told they were not original! I was told I didn't have permission because they were posted on twitter. I obtained private photos from JYPE, but those were deleted because the license was not clear, and they may be non-nuetral. I was also told that all of the photos need to be changed at the same time. Ie: If you change Jun K., you need to change the rest of 2PM.

A (Hottest) friend is working on uploading fancam grabs. We are hoping this will work. If you can help update the pics with clear licenses, It would be awesome.

I'm sorry we argued, as it's obvious we are both "Hottests!"

Mikepellerin^talk 05:27, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wasabcon note

Here's a note regarding Wasabcon: [2] Just a heads up! Mikepellerin^talk 04:51, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of EXO Baekhyun

Hi Teemeah, I was adding pictures to the page K-Pop World Festival and saw you did some work with EXO's pictures in Wikimedia Commons. You uploaded Baekhyun's File:EXO Baekhyun.JPG (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EXO_Baekhyun.JPG) but maybe forgot to add it to his Wikipedia page Byun Baekhyun. I started to add it, then saw your previous work! All the best!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 03:04, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Teemeah, just got your response on my talk page and had a giggle. Fair enough. Since I'm not an Administrator, nor a fan, I didn't read the Baekhyun page to notice the value. I take it you are not an Exotic. I like k-pop and I'm not a teen, also! Had to marvel at the amount of photos available on WC for K-Pop World Festival! I just celebrated a year since my first WP page, and adding images still makes me sweat! I certainly didn't want to have a sasaeng fan after me (on WP yet!), since I only like one of their songs much anyway (Miracles in December)! But, if I can vote, whether the page is worthy or not, every other member has their picture up, and with EXO-M bailing out, it might be your best chance to add it! Thanks and keep up the good work!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 14:06, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Korean drama

The article Korean drama you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Korean drama for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sock -- Sock (talk) 11:01, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and

Hello. I know we've had a few differences in the past but let's both assume good faith on the part of the other and move forward, is that cool? I think we both take the other one's words wrong a lot of times, and I've been harsh and overreacted on some occasions. (I'm so terrible at expressing myself online.) We've got a lot in common in terms of areas of editing interest and will undoubtedly cross paths frequently. We can celebrate our first victory at getting the JYJ members' articles to better titles! I was a huge fan of theirs for years (still am, of course, just don't follow them closely anymore). Anyway, I just wanted to say that. Thanks for all you do on Wikipedia and I value your opinion even if I don't always agree with it - collaboration is a good thing! :) Shinyang-i (talk) 05:19, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Shinyang-i: it is natural to have differences in opinion and I am also not very good at holding back when I believe something I do is right. I'm not sure I will do any bigger job on enwiki anymore, it's too much time and effort and too many clashes with too many people. I will stay in my home wiki and scribe articles nobody reads anyway :) I will resort to smaller changes and correction in enwiki. Good luck with the Kpop articles. I give up on them. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 14:34, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Feeling your pain totally. I, too, kind of just want to stay in my corner and work on articles no one seems to care about (they're kpop, but they've been sitting dormant for years and read like, well, like articles written years ago). I am having a lot of trouble finding my comfort zone in this Wikipedia editing experience. Online expression is so, so hard, and the kpop articles were virtually unmonitored by outsiders for so long it's hard to do anything that feels like progress. Efforts to get things more in line with the rest of Wikipedia feel like sabotage and attacks to many editors, and it's all just really ugly. I think if it weren't for the fact that Wikipedia is the first stop for nearly everyone when obtaining info on a subject, I would abandon it. But having terrible information out there or blatant advertising...I just can't handle it. So I'll persevere but yeah...it's a constant emotional roller-coaster. Good luck on your editing endeavors, whatever you choose to do. :) Shinyang-i (talk) 00:23, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

F.T. ISLAND

Hi, if I write articles on fnc and ftisland in a neutral point of view, would it be accepted? Not accepted by you but rather in wikipedia's context.

I don't have multiple accounts by the way, I used to edit FTISLAND's career in 2014 which is like few months ago but stopped editing frequently. I merely helped re-edit another user's edit with sources.

In my opinion, this is a major happening as the company said something bad about hongki which fnc shouldnt. This is more or less a dispute from the fnc.

Well, if its not accepted by wikipedia then i shall do nothing and let the article remain as it should. By the way, its not whether you accept it or not but rather am i violating wikipedia uses.

Have a good day ahead. Expecting a reply :)

REGARDS, Primadonna & Elvis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Primadonna & Elvis (talk • contribs) 08:21, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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D Big Gang album

I don't understand, this website is a legitimate website it is not a blog or an "iTunes chart". Have you had a proper look at the website, here's the link and have a clear look at what is says on their "About Us" section. [[3]] Here is an independent source! [[4]]. You should do research before you claim it is "advertising", those were some preposterous assumptions! (121.220.50.175 (talk) 02:24, 8 July 2015 (UTC))[reply]

A question about tables in K-pop articles

Hello, I have a question about the use of tables and information overload in k-pop articles, are they really necessary and allowed, like the ones in the following articles?

I only question this because I have seen you undo a revision on List of South Korean idol groups (1990s). Thankyou.Alicia leo86 (talk) 12:30, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Davichi

The information in the article true, you can add the following origins ㅡ ManlyBoys 11:12, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would add the following source ㅡ ManlyBoys 22:29, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Let me ask Allkpop reliable source , source or sources usual garbage (very weak source) ㅡ ManlyBoys 22:12, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Then there Allkpop sources used in GA or not ? kpopstarz and Soompi sources also have credible or not ? ㅡ ManlyBoys 01:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Turkey)

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DYK for Akiyama Tokuzō

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Donnie Yen Pictures

Hi Teemeah,

What is OTRS permission?

I work for Mr Donnie Yen and have his permission to upload these files. Let me know how to obtain the permission.

Thanks.

Brazilian Tiger (talk) 14:47, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Just an update, I am working on the OTRS permission.

Give me around a month for the email to be sent.

Thanks.

Brazilian Tiger (talk) 15:05, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Asian 10,000 Challenge invite

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DYK nomination of Jin Chae-seon

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AfC notification: Draft:When a Snail Falls in Love has a new comment

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DYK for Jin Chae-seon

On 21 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jin Chae-seon, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Jin Chae-seon was the first female master of pansori, a male-dominated Korean folk opera genre? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jin Chae-seon. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Jin Chae-seon), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Images for One Ok Rock

Hi Teemeah! Long time no talk with you! Hope you are well. I have a question, if you have time to look at some images recently uploaded for One Ok Rock and the band members pages, by the same new user (Jean Ackermann). They are uploads from Instagram. You can find all under Jean's contributions. [5]

They are on a list of Review by new users - but I wanted to ask if Instagram shows a license somewhere? If so, that would be one more place to pull WP photos from, like Flickr! If they are not licensed, I know that you are skilled in this - so I wanted you to take a look at them. The band is getting a lot of attention right now with a new album and US tour - and I didn't want us at WP to have bad images up for them! Thanks, and talk to you later.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 20:48, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Bonnielou2013: Hi Bonnie. Instagram is not a good place to get photos from. They are all copyrighted. They need permission from the photographer just like any usual photo. Instagram doesn't have an option for free licensing. These photos are all simply copyright violations, unfortunately. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 11:36, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Teemeah - I knew they looked too good to be true. I saw you tagged them...so I will remove them from WP. Thanks again and Happy New Year!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 01:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Bonnielou2013: Happy new year to you as well! :) Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 08:00, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yoona

Hi Teemeah, can you offer your opinion on this discussion Talk:Im Yoon-ah#Requested move 10 February 2017, I don't think now is the time to move the article title to "Yoona" considering she is now becoming more known for her acting work. What's your opinion on this? Thanks.--TerryAlex (talk) 17:15, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Special Box

Hi, I'm Domdeparis. Teemeah, thanks for creating Special Box!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Hi as it is it is impossible to know if the album meets the criteria in WP:NALBUM please add some more sources to prove it passes at least one of the 6 criteria. Thank you

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

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Proposed deletion of Single Box

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Thank you!

Thanks very much for the beer! ^_^ I hope you succeed in getting We Are X promoted to FA. If you do, let me know we can try to work together to get it up to FA in the English Wikipedia too. I'm already trying to get it on DYK? at the moment. ISD (talk) 10:43, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Pickwick (brand)

The article Pickwick (brand) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (companies) requirement. If you disagree and deprod this, please explain how it meets them on the talk page here in the form of "This article meets criteria A and B because..." and ping me back through WP:ECHO or by leaving a note at User talk:Piotrus. Thank you.

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@Piotrus: I added more sources. There are a bunch of news articles in Dutch but I don't speak Dutch. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 08:39, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I see some mentions in passing in books, but I am struggling to find some sources that provide in-depth coverage and assertion of notability (I found a short paragraph in Michael Levy; Dhruv Grewal (29 January 2015). Proceedings of the 1993 Academy of Marketing Science (AMS) Annual Conference. Springer. pp. 143–. ISBN 978-3-319-13159-7. but it doesn't suggest importance, IMHO). I'll ping User:Northamerica1000 for a third opinion (and in either case, you are welcome to remove the prod notice, we may or may not decide to take it to AFD for a wider discussion later on). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:19, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: I'm sure there is coverage in Dutch since it has been the leading tea brand of the Netherlands, but I don't speak Dutxh to be able to determine which article covers them from what aspect. Not having English language sources doesn't mean it is not notable. I am not sure if there is a Netherlands wikiproject or something like that, but I'll look arond if I can find a Dutch speaker. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 07:06, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Netherlands? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:34, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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KPOP ULZZANG

HI Teemeah, I'm a Korean. There is no relation between Gyaru-fashion and ULZZANG. I've first a story like this in Wikipedia. I am embarrassed to article. Moreover, there is no such thing as a Gyaru-fashion in the ulzzang cam pictures. It began with a A handsome competition(In the early 90s haduri selca)And DAUM cafe. Since then, not selfi, korean people say called selca. This is known to all Koreans, and Koreans will be embarrassed to see this article. The Please restore it again. ulzza.com source is almost accurate(The source was written by a KOREAN 안여정(an yeo-jung.[6] It would be nice to ask if you have Korean friends around. Celebrity Nam Sang-mi is most famous of ulzzang. ulzzang Not a given style, simply talks about handsome and beautiful things. It seems that you know something wrong in foreign countries? Korean Dictionary ulzzang[7] ME Editing K-pop article[8] (talk) 3:43 26 MAY 2018 (UTC)

I don't really care who wrote the article, that's not a realiable source that you linked. Find a relable source that states the same. Blogs and stuff like that are not acceptable sources. You changed the source link that was a reliable source (an article in a peer-reviewed journal) to something nobody can confirm to be a reliable source. That's a community page, same as a blog or a forum, anyone can claim they are experts on a topic, that won't make them reliable sources just because they post photos themselves as ulzzangs. I suggest that you read Wikipedia's rules on reliable sources: WP:RS. It doesn't matter of "everyone in Korea knows it" if it is not recited in a reliable source. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 18:27, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, being a Korean won't make someone a reliable source for Wikipedia. I'm Hungarian, does that make me a reliable source for everytghing related to Hungary? Of course not. Just because something was posted by a Korean national, it won't be neither true nor relaibale automatically.... Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 18:29, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. But what is a reliable source? This is not a scientific paper.That book, too Be merely one's own opinion. However, Korean social phenomenon is very well organized in Korean portal site. ulzza.com is the closest article and it's an English document, so I made a change. It is a professional ulzzang blog. Wikipedia is often cited as a source of blog-shaped articles. It is not wrong. And Korea's big popular boy band is H.O.T (1996), but at the time, I did not use ulzzang word. Wikipedia articles have a considerable sense of incongruity. If it is not a reliable source, is it ok to change and it to a Korean article source? [9] [10] It's about story of ulzzang star.(Daum cafe, nam sang-mi, etc) ok. So I will change it to a reliable source of Korea.

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Ruler names of Joseon

Hi, will you continue the good work, or is it done with Gwul/Jeonggyeong? I guess that you are able to read Korean, so I'd like to know which are your sources. Are there any english ones that everyone would be able to read? I'm asking as editor of de-WP, where we are severely lacking in information on the Gija mythical dynasty. Regards, --Enyavar (talk) 15:39, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Enyavar: yes I will continue, I wasn't at my computer this weekend. I don't have sources, I'm merely renaming the wrongly named articles someone else wrote. The transcription is bogus, so all of them need to be corrected. The sources are given in Korean. There are hardly any English language sources on this period, that would detail the kings. There is no such requirement that sources have to be in English. Some things are simply just not available in English. English doesn't run the world ;) Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 18:33, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, English just facilitates the sourcing. Since I shouldn't quote sources that I haven't read/understood, using your corrections like here needs to remain unsourced for now. So I was just asking. Later, I will correct the names in the table once you have finalized the stuff. Thanks! --Enyavar (talk) 18:42, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Enyavar: it's sourced, it's just sourced in Korean. For example this page lists the Gija Joseon kings. It's an excerpt from an ancient document, and is published by the Korean Classical Translating Agency. The problem with the articles is not that they are unsourced, but that they are named in the wrong way, the creator of the articles named the kings according to their personal names (like, today's first name), and not according to the name by which they ruled. I'm using the original articles in Kowiki to transcribe the ruler name, but one of the Korena language sources also lists them by these. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 19:02, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Enyavar: it's done, I also corrected the template. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 20:27, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you are really fast! I hope my request didn't rush you. If you can spare some time, could you please look at de:Liste der Herrscher Koreas#Gija to check that I have not made a major error? Also, on that same page there is a list of (also mythical) monarchs of the Dangun dynastie, complete with chronology. Do you have any idea where that list might come from, the page history says the names and the dates were just added by two different persons, the latter of whom was seemingly familiar with Korea. --Enyavar (talk) 10:05, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Enyavar: I have no idea where the Gojoseon kings list comes from, to be honest. My sources only mention a few kings whose name was known [11], and kowiki article on Gojoseon and Gija also say that the successors are largely unknown and the first known king after that is already Bu of Gojoseon (알려지지 않음 [not known]→ 부왕 [King Bu]) We can safely say that whoever wrote that list probably made it up... I would trim it down to the kings that can actually be sourced:

1. Dangun (BC 2333? – ?)
? Gija (BC 1122? – i. e. 1082?)
? Bu (BC ? – ?)
? Jun (BC ? – BC 194)

My sources:

"고조선" (in Korean). Doosan Encyclopedia. Retrieved 2013-10-24.
Nahm, Andrew C. Korea: Tradition and Transformation — A History of the Korean People, 2nd edition, Elizabeth, NJ: Hollym International (1996). ISBN 1-56591-070-2 [I actually own this book]

Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 17:19, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm utterly fascinated by en-WP now. There was once a huge argument that led to a clear separation of articles: The "real" list was kept clean of mythical kings; they were all listed in a separate "legendary list". Then, someone decided that legendary rulers are fiction and should not be mentioned at all. Which is why today, there are many redirects (Heuldal/Gareuk/etc.) of fictious rulers to a non-fiction list, where they are not mentioned at all, because they are fiction. Hilarious!

After a cursory glance, my new guess is that these names (Go-Joseon and Gija-Joseon) were all either made up in 1675 AD (Gyuwon Sahwa), or 1911/1975 AD (Hwandan Gogi). So while they are not true facts, they do have some history of their own and should at least be recorded somewhere as what they are (myth/fiction).

I think that the best way to go on would be: Restore the List of legendary monarchs of Korea to article status. Then, move the many redirects to there, and move the fictious lists also there. Mention in all the 41 stub articles that they are about a legendary/fictious person. Afterwards, keep only the four rulers in the "real" list like you described. Also maybe we should copy this discussion over to the list(s) that we are discussing, so that everyone learns about these concerns. Do you agree on some of these points? --Enyavar (talk) 19:10, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to invite @Oppashi: to this conversation, because he currently studies Koreanology at university, so I'd like to see someone who actually has access to academical point of views chip in on this. I'm not 100% familiar with the ancient period yet, and I'd need to read through more sources myself to be able to safely do this. The Gija Joseon kings appear to have sources available, but now I am shaken in my previous assumption that they are valid. I'd need to review the sources more thoroughly to determine if they list "legendary" kings or real kings. My history books on Korea do not mention names apart from that four above. Oppashi, what do you think? Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 10:43, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Edits on the Bohemian Rhapsody article

Hi,

I don't know how to link you on the Bohemian Rhapsody Wikipedia page itself, but I wanted to let you know that some changes you've done on my submitted information are wrong.

1. The bit about Live Aid and Jim Beach are true, its stated by Live Aid promoter Harvey Goldsmith in that BBC documentary. I specifically time-stamped the cited video to add context. 2. Your source for Queen's performance at Rio via the rockinrio.com site does not state that they had performed in Rio before; only that they had played in Brazil in the past. There are no Queen concerts in Rio prior to January 1985.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Letmejustcorrectthatforyou (talk • contribs) 05:55, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Letmejustcorrectthatforyou: you still don't have a source for that information about Rio. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 10:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]