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[[User:Manojpandeyanarchocommunist|Manojpandeyanarchocommunist]] ([[User talk:Manojpandeyanarchocommunist|talk]]) 08:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
[[User:Manojpandeyanarchocommunist|Manojpandeyanarchocommunist]] ([[User talk:Manojpandeyanarchocommunist|talk]]) 08:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
:Sure! I'll try to do so if you want. I was worried about the same thing: when the image is posted at Wikipedia, it immediately gets indexed by all search engines, including the giant Google in their first pages of search results. So, so far, what was only "leaked", it could be flooded through search engines. --[[User:Titodutta|Tito Dutta]] ([[User talk:Titodutta|contact]]) 08:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hansen Clarke and Peel District School Board

Hi, Tito! Are you ready to start Hansen Clarke and Peel District School Board in Bengali? Peel has a Bengali website which can help with the article Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 11:41, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll start the biographical article quickly! --Tito Dutta (contact) 19:43, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! WhisperToMe (talk) 03:12, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I found some more documents in Bengali that may help with Peel:

WhisperToMe (talk) 03:45, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok :) WhisperToMe (talk) 13:10, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Suicide in Greenland

Is that article done yet? What else is there to add? (Good job on creating it BTW.) Supersaiyen312 (talk) 23:45, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • No, that's not a stable article still. The article was started at 13 March evening (UTC). I hope it to take it to DYK. See above (in this talk page, you'll find some DYK credits).

The following works need to be done–

  • Short paragraph on common suicide methods.
  • Short paragraph on suicide prevention initiatives.
  • Expansion or merge "History" section.

There are three citations in the article, those will help. Others are one and two --Tito Dutta (contact) 01:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talk: Birendra Nath Datta

Hi, I left a message for you at Birendra Nath Datta's talk page. Keep smiling. Bishnu Saikia (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Hi, I have seen the review you made in my nomination and I need your suggestion for making it arrange, would you please help me to arrange it properly ? : Mydreamsparrow (talk) 19:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you so much for your help and I am trying to improve the article now itself but would you please let me know how much I should add information in that ? If the question is wrong please guide me in the proper way. Thank you so much once again :Mydreamsparrow (talk) 19:55, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, Titodutta. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by NtheP (talk) 22:45, 15 March 2013 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template).[reply]

Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians

Tito, great job on the new layout! One suggestion: the "members" page could be renamed "facilitators" or "co-ordinators". "Members" suggests they are members of "Deceased Wikipedians", and therefore deceased. Just an idea, thanks again, The Interior (Talk) 00:45, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please go ahead! Following these suggestions the page layout has been created. I am not satisfied with colour combination. I have chosen light blue, because it is the colour of sky. If you want to rename the "Members" tabe, you need to move this page Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Members to somewhere else like "facilitators" or "co-ordinators" (or Project members" etc and Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Tab header! --Tito Dutta (contact) 00:54, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, I'll make a suggestion over on the talk page to see how others feel. Best, The Interior (Talk) 01:20, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The spelling is wrong (databse, you are missing an "a") in the promotional message of the project.--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:11, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That was a test welcome message (I was testing the template, a bunch of opposes and dislikes will be in order in talk page), though, feel free to join it. We have almost no entry of WikiProject India editors there. Don't we die? If you find other errors, correct in the templates directly! --Tito Dutta (contact)

Inre Template:Did you know nominations/George Kwok Bew

Responded there. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 05:27, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Suicide in Greenland

Hello! Your submission of Suicide in Greenland at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Soman (talk) 08:18, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cat Master Barnstar

Wow, thanks. Always happy to be of help. :-)

Keep up the good work, and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:37, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You deserve a barnstar!

The Original Barnstar
For your work on the Deceased Wikipedians page! AshLin (talk) 05:03, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --Tito Dutta (contact) 05:06, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A cookie for you!

Hello Tito Dutta, I will be celebrating my birthday on 19 March. So, I would like to give you a treat. If you decide to "eat" the cookie, please reply by placing {{subst:munch}} on my talk page. I hope this cookie has made your day better. Cheers! Arctic Kangaroo 15:15, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 150th birthday of Swami Vivekananda

Harrias talk 00:04, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Suicide in Greenland

Harrias talk 16:02, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The hook was attractive, 10,000 is great.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:20, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PROUT article

Hallo Tito! I inserted the POV temp 'cause Crovetto is not a neutral source. Furthermore the statement: "Sarkar formulated the theory for his Ananda Marga movement in 1959" is biased. Shrii Sarkar did not create this theory for the Ananda Marga movement but for the welfare of the entire society. And after all this does not seem to be written in the cited sources. Thanks--Cornelius383 (talk) 01:48, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Take it to article's talk page with a reliable secondary source which supports this claim! --Tito Dutta (contact) 01:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
the statement: "Sarkar formulated the theory for his Ananda Marga movement in 1959" seems not written in the cited sources.--Cornelius383 (talk) 01:59, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting clean up on Bokaro wiki article

Hello Tito, I noticed that in the Bokaro's wiki article, some one has replaced the 50 year Bokaro monument with an image of chas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chasbksc.jpg).

Can you help us by reverting this image back to the 50 year independence monument?

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhicomet (talk • contribs) 08:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your expertise needed

Please take a look at User talk:CorrectKnowledge#Mythological content in historical section. Sudhirkbhargava has been adding very early historical dates and other fringe stuff to many articles despite consensus at this RSN thread and my repeated attempts to explain why those edits are inappropriate. I think he is a good faith contributor, but clearly someone needs to review his edits, maybe even adopt the user. 197.* is currently involved in a discussion here and in edit wars on a few other articles. My involvement hasn't really worked in the past, so I am staying away from this. Please take a look into it. If nothing changes someone might have to raise WP:CIR concerns. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 09:01, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is not an exhaustive list: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]... Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 09:17, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
These edits contain a large number of exceptional claims, which needs exceptional citation. If he does not stop, ANI is the zone per WP:CIR (give 3-4 warnings first)! --Tito Dutta (contact) 09:21, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Also talk to his mentor User:Sitush --Tito Dutta (contact) 09:21, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep those pages on your watchlist for now, in case 197.* and Sudhir Bhargava start edit warring over this. Please also copy your reply above to Talk:Manusmṛti#Mythological content in historical section, it could use a third opinion. Is Sitush formally mentoring him? I posted something similar here. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 09:32, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Watchlisted those articles! --Tito Dutta (contact) 11:15, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


I please request for the Manusmṛti page to be reviewed to remove non-factual and misleading content presenting mythological content as being factual, and for other misleading content with the intention of presenting it as reality and glorifying it using unproven claims.

The user User:Sudhirkbhargava has made many misleading edits to that page that present mythological events unproven by archaeology as real historical events and also provides other misleading information presenting the mythological figure Manu as a historical person whose laws were followed in South-East Asia before the rise of Buddhism in India although no credible evidence for all these claims exist that are accepted by mainstream archaeology and historical sources.

The reasons given by the user who did this edit for replacing the information in that section are ideologically/politically biased, not supported by any archaeological and historical evidence and are either completely unproven or any conclusive evidence supporting these claims is absent.

Here is a compilation of all the misleading edits made to this page.

This user has also done many similar edits on pages relating to Indian mythology and history by adding mythological content and dates to historical content and by adding unproven archaeological/historical contents to pages relating to Indian mythology, especially to pages relating to Bhargava, Bhrigu, Manu and Dhosi Hill as can be seen from this user's contributions. Most of the information added is either directly cited from mythological texts or is fringe theory, politically biased, non-factual and contrary to any information obtained from archaeological, geological and historical evidence and seeks to glorify some aspects of history and mythology in a biased way while being detrimental to the factual, real and unbiased version of these topics.

Something must be done to remove the misleading non-factual information from all these pages and to prevent this user from adding non-factual information to more pages for good. This was the first time I edited something and contacted a user on Wikipedia and I will probably not edit anything again. I can't and don't want to keep on editing more or to engage in an edit war with someone.

Is it possible to unlock the Manusmṛti page so that I can undo these edits or can another Wikipedia user undo them? The page needs to be reverted to its last version from 33 July 2012 to remove all misleading information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.225.241.102 (talk) 20:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He does not cite reliable sources that are widely accepted by mainstream scientists. He only cites mythological texts, other Wikipedia pages and himself in his edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.225.241.102 (talk) 01:30, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking notice of my request. This was my last involvement in this problem and I won't edit or contact Wikipedians again because I don't know anything about editing on Wikipedia. Please solve this problem among yourselves quickly. All the misleading information must be removed and this user must be prevented from making misleading edits by mixing historical and mythological information. I came to Wikipedia to look for reliable references to use for academic research but I was deeply offended by the biased, non-factual and misleading edits on the Manusmṛti page. These misleading edits make people lose faith on Wikipedia.

I wonder what all is cooking up on my edits on certain pages. I have given only factual and true references. Be specific to say what is wrong rather than being general. I have deep studies on Manusmriti, the seers who dictated it, the period and place where the seers had their habitation, and the Vedic states mentioned by the seers in their compilation. Also several researches by eminent scientists in seminars on the rivers Saraswati/Drishadwati and the state of Brahmavarta are now available, which give scientific support to references. I do not mind discussions any where.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 17:07, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Early dates like 10000bc aren't supported by any scientific evidence widely accepted by the archeology. There are no conclusive evidence of Manu and Bhrigu living at beginning of Holocene period. 10000bc was still the Stone Age. Mythological texts aren't conclusive evidence and seminars aren't reliable sources. The Manusmrti page said that Manusmrti was influenced by Arthashastra and was written between 200bc and 200ce before you edited it. The discussiom here said that your claims are fringe theory that is not accepted by mainstream archeology and that it doesn't support 10000 year old civilisation. User:CorrectKnowledge said that you were told you mustn't add these dates to pages because no evidence supported by mainstream archeology supports it. RandomOffendedUser (talk) 19:55, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I talked of period of Manu and Bhrigu as 10,000 years ago not 10,000BCE. I would like to know where Manusmriti says that it was influenced by Arthashastra and was written during 200BC and 200CE. What are the sources ? This is baseless and mere speculation. Manusmriti was applicable during Ramayana period (5200 BCE) and Mahabharata period (3100 BCE) also. So dates of 200BC or 200CE are vague. Archeologists have confirmed that there were floods in Brahmavarta region 10,000 years ago. Can give you specific sources also. Satellite images of palaeochannels of two rivers Saraswati and Drishadwati which formed Brahmavarta state, where Bhrigu and Manu had their Ashrams (mentioned in more than 3 Sanskrit Books) confirm descriptions in Sanskrit books, confirming that no mythology is involved and book contains facts. As per Puranas, Bhrigu had migrated to Bharuch on the banks of Narmada river in Gujrat. Archaeological findings there are dated 8500 years old. On Manusmriti page I have given precise references with every important information. Sanskrit books cannot be termed as mythological books if contents are facts and can be proved on scientific parametres.

On pages Ayurveda and Vedic Period, there are several wrongs which need to be removed. There is untruth galore on those pages. But some editors make a cartel to have their say. It is a creditibility loss to Wikipedia. No wonders, on the 12th anniversary of launching of Wikipedia, the largest selling Hindi daily news paper in India 'Dainik Bhaskar' carried a quater front page story after a survey, saying that Wikipedia carries 50 % untruths. I tend to agree with that report as I find that several pages are not taken care of al all. But where serious editors try to improve some pages, there is resistence from vested interests. When Ramayana and Mahabharata periods, 5400 BCE and 3100 BCE respectively are well accepted now on the basis of different scientific parameters, and Manusmriti was applied during that period also, saying that Manusmriti was written 200BCE or 200CE is a joke. Please have exhaustive discussions before changing facts on Manusmriti pageSudhirkbhargava (talk) 12:23, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edits on Dhosi Hill page aren't acceptable or scientific. The page says that geologists don't accept that Dhosi hill is a volcano but it also says that Dhosi Hill is a volcano because it is written in mythological texts and because it's rock look like volcanic lava.
It remains mysterious, because despite its physical features of an extinct Volcano, Geologists refuse to acknowledge it a Volcanic eruption maintaining that Aravali range did not have any volcanic eruptions during last 2 million years, though, the epic Mahabharat mentions clearly that this hill, having features like 'three distinct hill tops', 'three perennial water falls' and housing the Ashram of revered Rishi Chyavana, had 'appeared' (obviously through Volcanic eruption), at the confluence of Treta and Dwapar yug [1] which happens to be within last 10,000 years and not 2 million years. RandomOffendedUser (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, no geologist has yet analysed the lava at Dhosi Hill. However, they maintain from their established knowledge, that no volcanic eruption has taken place in India except Andamans Islands during last 2 million years. But when you talk to them on a Volcanic eruption at Dhosi Hill, which has all the features of a Volcanic Hill and lava lying there as in picture, they suggest to get it analysed and dated for which I am keen too. Also, the geologists do maintain that seismic activity did take place in Aravali hills 6000-5000 BCE, which resulted in changing of routes of Saraswati and Drishadwati rivers which resulted in migrations from the area. I can mention these sources on the page. Unfortunately, no geologist has yet analysed the lava shown in the picture. To me it is a mysterious hill as it has higher magnetic field, some rare herbs, a rejunevating pond on the hill top and place where Chayavanprash was first formulated and was the Ashram of Chayavana Rishi, who was son of Bhrigu rishi. Mahabharata epic has many mentions of this hill. and they cannot be mythologies. Removing the picture of lava hill is intriguing to me. You would not find lava lying on any hill in India. It is a mysterious hill to me and for any reader. It is a feature of Dhosi Hill which any reader would like to know and see. Dhosi Hill does need more citations. But please discuss before removing any contents.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 15:26, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

About the survey

Do you think it's okay to run the survey? I asked about it at the village pump.--Pratyya (Hello!) 11:03, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail!

Hello, Titodutta. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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Reply through email.--Pratyya (Hello!) 11:24, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note

We already have Darśana. Why do we need this Adarsana article, which was created today? Reminded me of your legitimate comments on the duplication of Doha. The new article on Doha, as you implied, does indeed look superfluous. The material should, I think, have been incorporated in the original Doha article, as you suggested. I also think the original Darśana article is far better and more informative than the new one but that's a POV.--Zananiri (talk) 12:48, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I am going by what I have read in the two articles. I appreciate the opposite meanings, but was wondering if they could be incorporated in one article. If you read the articles, my observations may ring a bell. I'll leave it at that.--Zananiri (talk) 15:32, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
For that suggest a "merge"! --Tito Dutta (contact) 22:28, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Janala

The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Template:Did you know nominations/Shanu Lahiri

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DYK nomination of Article

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PROUT

FYI: I intent to take this to ArbCom tomorrow. Location (talk) 06:35, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Actually I am new to Wikipedia and so, please continue giving me guidelines about making the articles better. Thanks a lot.--Bubaikumar (talk) 14:47, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am extremely grateful to you. Please keep guiding me. I am now making an article on the Bengali movie Kidnapper. Please check it after it has been completed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubaikumar (talk • contribs) 15:16, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Mr Titodutta

Thanks, Mr Titodutta. This is my first attempt and I really appreciate your quick comments and suggestions. I'll incorporate the changes you have suggested and come back with a revised article.


Fardia Balsara. 13:50, 21 March 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by F.Balsara (talk • contribs)

Write the article in the followingformat
  • Lead (no header_
  • Early life (birth, education)
  • Literary career (don't make sections for each book)
  • Bibliography
  • Awards
  • See also (if any, don't add those links which are already linked in article body)
  • References
  • External links (not more than 2 external links)! --Tito Dutta (contact) 14:10, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mr Titodutta, Let me again thank you for reading my first article. As you suggested, I removed all the external links and gave citations. I think they are enough citations. I have tried changing the tone of the article - I fully realize that it has to fit in the tone of the encyclopedia - and will happily discuss further changes (if necessary) but the article is about a writer who has explored a different genre - Unauthorized biographies. While developed countries have their share of Kitty Kellies, the writers face several pressure groups when they write something different. Sadat Hasan Manto suffered for this very reason. And many biographies are not allowed to be sold. We are a country of book burners. Mohan Deep went against the tide and that two in mid-nineties when there wasn't much money in writing books. I admire this but don't want it to color my article. I am fascinated with wikipedia and hope to write more on different subjects. In fact, I am considering 'Biographies' as my next article. I may start from Akbarnaama and Babarnaama to analyze the kind of biographies being written in India. Will love to get your opinion.

Should I resubmit now or the article needs further changes.

Farida. F.Balsara (talk) 07:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article is not fully ready! In my opinion, please follow the format mentioned above! If particulars book is notable (and if you collect multiple reliable sources covering the book), you can create articles on those books too. See Rabindranath Tagore, we don't add all details on each and every book in the main "biographical article"! --Tito Dutta (contact) 07:59, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On Y2K (Athoba, 'Sex Krome Aasitechhe')

It's nice to see the article being kept. This is a peculiar situation, we do not have enough online sources to back it, whereas I know from personal experience that it has gained sort of a cult status. As I told in the AfD, the film was shown in 2001 Kolkata film festival, at least twice (incidentally I was there in the audience both times). The second time it was shown, it was not in the itinerary, and some viewers (who probably already saw it the previous day), protested by shouting! I even overheard somebody saying, Satyajit Institute theke esob ki cinema toiri korchhe, chhi chhi!!

At that time, I thoroughly enjoyed it :p --Dwaipayan (talk) 03:12, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 18 March 2013

DYK for All I Want Is Everything (film)

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Men Against Rape and Discrimination

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Shanu Lahiri

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Page on Dhosi Hill

Hi ! Titodutta, seeing so much work pending with you, I become reluctant to visit your talk page. However, two days ago in a discussion, rather a complaint, that I keep pushing very old dates on various pages related to Hindu books etc. I had given my submission there. I was expecting a comment from you. The complainant supported by editor Correct Knowledge made representation to you to take measures to block me from editing on various pages. Well, they have every right to ask for that. But some of the reasons given by them are bizarre claiming: how Manu can belong to any period as he was a mythological figure. Do they mean that he never existed in flesh and blood and Manusmriti is almost a Ghost book ? Please comment on this. Also, I'll request you to revert the contents on Dhosi Hill page which are related to floods. Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 06:22, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am disappointed at your response. My research work is different from my postings on Wikipedia. I have only posted the published work from different sources. There are no exceptional claims. These are simple facts with supports. You edited page on Bhrigu on 20th March. Are you satisfied with its present form ? Also could you be specific where I have put some thing researched, which did not have a peer review ? It is all there in Sanskrit Books already. Please also comment what are the views of Wikipedia on Manu, who dictated Manusmriti. Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 07:14, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are many, soem examples are given above. Also,
1 Using primary source and own writing as reference! Here you have reverted with edit summary "well sourced" but where are sources there? Please read WP:RS and WP:Secondary. You must add multiple secondary reliable sources when you are claiming something which happened 10,000 years ago! Also, to improve your editing skill, you can try WP:Adopt --Tito Dutta (contact) 07:24, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I do not mind having a helper for editing these pages. But for your 2 points, A) Aryavarta was mentioned by Manu in Manusmriti itself and I have quoted the shalok no. as reference. All the rishis mentioned by me form the Saptrishis combine and were with Manu during floods and started compilation of Books like Rigveda and other scriptures. Rigveda has mentioned Rishis and their clans who contributed to the book. The third component of spiritual God Shiva is part of Taittiriya Upnishad. Though it was part of my PPP in a seminar which should be there on internet, I can put the reference from the Upnishad itself. But the fact is not unsourced. Pt 2 mentioned by you is from page Dhusar. You removed a sentence 'that people who migrated from dhosi Hill area follow Vedic sanskriti and ayurveda. I can give a published source to you, but as you are based in Kolkata, you can meet a Marwari family in Barabazar and find out from them about their original place and traditions they follow. They must be following Vedic Sanskriti and Ayurveda in day-to-day life. Last year I stayed in a hotel in Kolkata, where the manager proudly told me that LNMittal's residence is just behind, though he rarely comes here. Mittal community's trust manages half of the Dhosi Hill and they belonged to a nearby place, so do most of other Marwaries. The sentence was added on page in lighter vein. Can give a reference too. However, please let me know of a deletion before hand, so that I can put a citation for my additions. Recent archaeological findings on Vedic sites on the radio-metric analysis go back to 9500-9700 ago. Am compiling a list to put as references. Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 09:30, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Whoosh! What my residence or Marwari family in Barabazar or PPP seminar have to do here? Write in brief and to the point! Wikipedia does not work in this policy: "information first, citation later.. maybe.. I'll think". You have to add citations (reliable and secondary) at the time of adding information! And enrol at WP:Adopt so that you can learn how Wikipedia works! --Tito Dutta (contact) 10:01, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Bhakta Vidur

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

before i submit the article

Hello Mr Titodutta, Thank you for guiding me. I went through the manual too. It is an exciting world! I have removed the external links and replaced them with citations. I hope to add some more even after the article is accepted.

As for the content, I have avoided using judgmental words as well as superlatives. As the subject of the article, Mohan Deep himself is known for controversial biographies, one can't avoid mentioning them. I checked and saw that controversies are mentioned in the articles about several other writers too. What is a writer without a controversy :) I am submitting the article again. Please accept it and then it will be open to everyone for any valid corrections.

Regards. Fardia F.Balsara (talk) 10:31, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Suicide in UK

Hi Tito, Regarding the use of bold in the lede, please see the following advice from the WP:MOS: If the article's exact title is absent from the first sentence, do not apply the bold style to related text that does appear:

The Beatles' rise to prominence in the United States on February 7, 1964 was a significant development in the history of the band's commercial success. (The Beatles in the United States)

at Wikipedia:Lead section#Bold title. Thanks, Ericoides (talk) 11:08, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mr Titodutta

Thanks for the encouragement. I have noted everything and will revise the article soon. However, I have reservation about the comment inviting people to 'remove potentially libelous material'. Everything I have written is based on published articles and books (published in mid nineties) which remain unchallenged. 'Eurekha!' (about Rekha) has been extensively quoted in a series on Aaj Tak and I hope to give some of those links too. Regards. Farida F.Balsara (talk) 14:42, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seven Sisters Post

Hello Tito Dutta. Please excuse a slightly OT question. Do you have any idea, what happened to that newspaper or their website. I had a look at their E-paper quite often last year, but it ceased to work 2 or 3 months ago (at least for me). --Gf1961 (talk) 09:06, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for answering. --Gf1961 (talk) 04:03, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rabindranath Tagore criticism

Hello Titodutta I checked out the article on Tagore. But in the impact section it contains nothing about the criticism of Tagore by Bengali or Indian writers contemporary of him. I think it is biased towards Tagore.

were among the prominent critics. Even we have modern views like that of Girish Karnad. Can you point me some sources to improve the article. Solomon7968 (talk) 15:14, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Take it to article's talk page where primary contributors can participate! --Tito Dutta (contact) 17:29, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thanks for the barnstar! I'm always happy to help out. Ducknish (talk) 19:08, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Debipaksha

Hello! Your submission of Debipaksha at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! AgneCheese/Wine 21:46, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Threat

If it's a threat, please email emergency@wikimedia.org. Don't post it on Wikipedia. 88.104.27.2 (talk) 04:28, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Been out sick for a bit, so I haven't a clue what you received, but it did remind me of my first threatening email on Wikipedia. It was from a habitual sockpuppeter that liked creating stubs that were 90% correct, but the other 10% of the info was from outer space. The funny part of the email said that as a Jewm he did not believe in a hell, but due to the actions of several of us editors to block him, Jews now believed in a hell.... only it is filled with evil Wikipedians. I think you need to come on down to Jewish/Wikipedian hell and join us. Bgwhite (talk) 07:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Let me see if I have this right... Take seven days off and you will get some good rest, enjoy some nice free time and spend time with friends. So your threat is to actually enjoy life while mine is to live in a special Jewish hell with the likes of Magiodalitis. Just not fair. Well, I guess you are just going to have to show them and play. Bgwhite (talk) 08:29, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You could try checking the email headers. I believe that might give you some idea of who it came from, if it was sent directly to your email address. You can probably find out how to do it on your email program with a google search. Ducknish (talk) 15:49, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Copyediting

Hi! I went and did a copyedit of the article WhisperToMe (talk) 19:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

suppose: re Paoli anubrato pic

I'll put it as a contrafactual:

1. suppose someone were to tell you *informally* that Paoli, anubrato and vimukti would - off the record - rather have the pic in the article than not. Would it make a difference?

2. You not only listed the pic for deletion: you removed it from the aricle.

Are you being prudish which is IMO *in this case* male chauvinism and therefore violative of NPOV? Already wikipedia *still* has a pro-israel bias!

So, only for once, I am undoing your change.

In not-near future I might undo it again but only at the request of interested parties - my lips will remain sealed on that one.

Officiallly, I am doing it on my own, for one, I am trying out the possiblity of the govt of india suing me for 'uploading obscene material' -- if they foolishly do so it will be an important test case..

regards,

manoj pandey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manojpandeyanarchocommunist (talk • contribs) 21:21, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mr Titodutta,

As you advised, I have changed (or tried to change) my article on Mohan Deep to make it more suitable for encyclopedia style. Also, I have edited out some parts and may add them in new articles I plan to write. I may add some citation for the parts edited out now, specially about Mohan Deep's writings in Sindhi. Now, I don't see anything in the article that can be considered libelous. In any case, the trilogy (published in mid nineties) remains unchallenged till this time.

I am planning to do a piece on Sindhis but before that I'll check whether there is an article on the same subject in Wikipedia. Also, to add some material in different articles to enhance them further.

F.Balsara (talk) 05:20, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Arey, Balsara Ji, Kehra haal aahin? You have copyedited the article very well. It needs some more changes, 1) don't use ALL CAP 2) move the "Early life" section before "Literary career" and 3) I could not understand why you removed the date of birth! --Tito Dutta (contact) 05:28, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Arey Titodada :), I may do an article about Sindhis but I'm a Zoroastrian, got acquainted with the writings of Mohan Deep through Jam-E-Jamshed. I'll make the changes you suggested. I removed the reference to his date of birth as I don't know how to authenticate it. I don't want to approach him for every small thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by F.Balsara (talk • contribs) 07:11, 26 March 2013 (UTC) UTC[reply]

Dada, for now, I'm leaving the early part where it is. I'll rewrite it once I get the supporting info and then shift it up. In fact, I came across the fascinating articles of Mohan Deep before he started writing books. He had exposed the corruption in 'Filmfare Awards' and his investigative article published in 'Island' (now defunct) was hailed as 'the most explosive story of the decade by Stardust'. It has interesting incidents like Amjad Khan refused to give bribe for getting an award for Gabbar Singh's role and Rajesh Khanna bribing them for getting an award for the best actor! F.Balsara (talk) 07:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have made some changes and added an infobox. Eurekha seems to be a popular book. On that you can create a separate article. Literary career section needs a thorough copyedit! --Tito Dutta (contact) 07:35, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Below "Literary Career" section you can start a section "Bibliography" in the following format:
Year Book Language Publisher ISBN
Write the year when the book was published Full name of the book English/Sindhi etc Name of the publisher ISBN 978...
Example Example Example Example Example
Example Example Example Example Example

--Tito Dutta (contact) 07:47, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I removed both stills from the chatrak article - I had uploaded both. Because paoli requested me to. The lady is wonderful: she said explicitly that 'this is a request'

So, I support listing *both* images for deletion, because they are not being used for article. Tito, will you do that for me, I being a casual editor?

Meanwhile, I'm seeing if as the uploader I have the right to unilaterally remove both stills I uploaded.

Case closed: by all ethical standards Paoli has a veto on this issue.

Regards, 

Manoj Pandey

Manojpandeyanarchocommunist (talk) 08:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! I'll try to do so if you want. I was worried about the same thing: when the image is posted at Wikipedia, it immediately gets indexed by all search engines, including the giant Google in their first pages of search results. So, so far, what was only "leaked", it could be flooded through search engines. --Tito Dutta (contact) 08:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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