User talk:Drmies

That's right y'all.

Is "involvedness" a word?

Seriously dude, you're a professor of what? -- Softlavender (talk) 05:25, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

• Professor of Indubitableness at the Marie Corelli Institute of Refined Language and Gentle Pastimes. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 12:22, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

• The correct term is, of course, "involvitude." Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 12:41, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

I knew it sounded wrong. Softlavender (talk) 12:43, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Involvitude sounds moist. Drmies (talk) 12:48, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

I had a Volvo until the clutch failed. Now I've joined the ranks of the involvituded. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 12:53, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Wouldn't that be devolvolution, though? Lectonar (talk) 13:03, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

...And now we have "trivialer". Drmies, I think you are just teasing us with this college-professor stuff. You are actually a machine. A neologism generator. --MelanieN (talk) 02:35, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

• You're just a lie detector, aren't you. Drmies (talk) 02:39, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

• I am not a lie detector machine! I am a (bleeck) (squawk) human (urrk!) being! --MelanieN (talk) 03:11, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

• For my part, I am human, all too human--and I'm signing off before I get even more human. Drmies (talk) 03:13, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Flip or Flip edits

I do not understand your edits. The article is about the show. If both kids are shown on the show why not put the kids names? Its not different than including any other kids name. Because its a a reality TV show rather than a sitcom it shouldn't impact the mentioning of the names. Also why do you seem to think People wouldn't be considered a WP:RS? - Galatz^Talk 13:31, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

• The article is not about them; they are not notable. That they're mentioned on the show (BTW, I've watched a few episodes and didn't hear about them) doesn't really matter--why should it? And People may be reliable in some aspects, but that doesn't mean that the news it reports isn't chatty and gossipy. Not everything that's sourced is of encyclopedic value. Drmies (talk) 13:47, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Here is my thinking about People: If a Nobel Prize winner marries a movie star (stranger things have happened), then People is a reliable source for the wedding date, but not for a description of the Nobel Prize winning research. And intricate wedding cake details referenced to People do not belong in an encyclopedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:18, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Hundreds of low-quality esports articles. Please advise.

Hello, Drmies. There's a growing issue with Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/eSports, in that there are now hundreds of low-quality articles, with more being created on a daily basis, that feature non-notable content, poor citing that generally includes The Daily Dot and Liquipedia, as well as navboxes that are borrowed from gaming wikis, but should not be considered up to par for Wikipedia standards. You could probably click a random article from this list and you would find one of many examples. Is there a way one could give the taskforce proper attention, as these hundreds of articles are showing a lack of standards and a single person creating AfDs could not keep up with the people creating these articles? DARTHBOTTO _talk•cont 22:57, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

• Oh dear. I guess I could have seen this coming a year ago. As if we didn't have enough testosterone-fueled content. I nominated one for CSD and another for a PROD; let's see how this goes. For the record, I do not believe that being mentioned on The Daily Dot adds much in the way of notability. I think this may be an uphill struggle. If that Dot is accepted as a reliable and, more importantly, a weighty source, you'll have every gamer argue that these things are Really Important in the Real World. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:55, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
• Well, Prisencolin just objected to the PROD. BTW, there's a history of socking in that area--see the contributions of Wlo1234 and Wikipedia masterr. Drmies (talk) 01:08, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Hello, as you might know I'm behind most of these articles and I happened to notice this discussion. If you've got to delete some things, then delete some things, no offense taken.--Prisencolin (talk) 01:32, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Someone emailed me, so I should probably mention that I may have a conflict of interest with this topic, as someone who was involved with esports organizations for half a decade, until 2014, so I may have a prior COI that will prevent me from giving any further input. I only want to keep quality articles and improve ones that can be improved, but I may not be at liberty to do much else other than talk page input. DARTHBOTTO _talk•cont 02:16, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

• I think I'd better apologize for what I just did. As I found with that female videogamer a while back, news sites are crawling with coverage of this stuff. Yngvadottir (talk) 03:40, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

... and I followed up with this in my user space and just realized the ping in it won't work 'cos no sig. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:35, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Drmies: This discussion will interest you: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Notability guidelines and policy for eSports. KaisaL (talk) 23:19, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Pinging Yngvadottir as well would seem polite. LadyofShalott 23:22, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

"Flagporn" is my new favorite word. LadyofShalott 01:30, 1 July 2016 (UTC) "E-sports" is my least favorite new word. What is wrong with "video games"? LadyofShalott 01:36, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

• Because it's serious business, I guess. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:41, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

• If you want, you can be the change you wish to see in others. There's a RfC going on about the very subject at Talk:eSports.--Prisencolin (talk) 22:43, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Am I too far off base on this?

If you (or a talk page stalker) have a second, take a peek at this discussion [1] and tell me if you think I'm too far off base on this? Niteshift36 (talk) 18:45, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

• Nah. The main G4S article relegates controversies to a paragraph and a link to the appropriate article, Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 05:35, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, the agenda-pushing on this article involves a good tag team. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:35, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Jebamalai Vinanchiarachi

Hi Dr; I tried on this one (as did other editors), and solicited assistance at the BLP noticeboard, but COI accounts are determined to make a press release/resume of this. Any assistance from you or your talk page pals would be welcome. Very best from 99 and his many incarnations, 2601:188:1:AEA0:68C6:2CD6:BBB7:7FB2 (talk) 11:48, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

I did a little organizing and cleanup. Softlavender (talk) 12:45, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Edited to add: Seems to be a self-created vanity/self-promotional article. Softlavender (talk) 12:58, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes. Thank you very much, Softlavender. 2601:188:1:AEA0:68C6:2CD6:BBB7:7FB2 (talk) 20:21, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Spelproject

Thanks ever so much, Michel, not only for your interactive and extremely useful keynote but for your generosity of spirit. I would not have ever considered a wikipedia page for myself so you have propelled me into another world, one I hope I can negotiate. This addition to your talk page is to initiate on-going discussion about the Spelman workshop and to inquire about two things. The first is how to identify a Wiki administrator. Are you and Aleta administrators? The second is to find out how to get an administrator to remove the image from my page. It's not a great photograph, but that is not the real issue since I have had many such likenesses over the years. But I have perused the pages of a few people, mostly educators, that I know and posting photographs does not seem to be the practice. So I would like to delete the image on my page but have read enough to know that only administrators can delete. After the deletion, my next goal will be to figure out the best way to communicate with both you and Aleta and learn more about images on Wikipedia in general. Alexandria "helped" me to change the photograph of Toni Morrison on two wiki sites/pages yesterday afternoon. And I actually edited a reference on one of the articles she assigned. I can see potential here. Thanks again for bringing that potential to my attention. Katme17 (talk) 15:49, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi, yes we (this is Aleta) are both administrators. Many, but not all, will have that fact indicated on our user pages. To jump in on your photo question, I would say that is is lack of having pictures that is why so many articles on academics don't have them, not a desire not to have such photos. However, it is not true that only administrators can remove them from the articles. (Only an administrator can truly delete the photo, but anyone can remove it from the article.) I would encourage you to leave it, though. LadyofShalott 15:54, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Katme17, and thanks for the note. The Lady is right: anyone can remove that image, including you. No one needs special powers to do that. She's also right in that most such articles don't have photos because we don't have photos, and if we do we're lucky. For Wayne Greenhaw, for instance, I was lucky to find one on Flickr. The Lady wrote up Mildred Lewis Rutherford a while back, and someone was lucky to find an image of her, out of copyright.

  In general, the best place to look for images is Commons, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page; all those images there are fair game. You may also find that people get attached to the images; it is possible that someone prefers the older image of Toni Morrison. This then probably becomes a matter to discuss on the article talk page, where the pros and cons of each can be discussed. For Hallie Quinn Brown, you added a reference to an article; the only problem is it's a footnoted reference so it needs to footnote something. I can pull it up through JSTOR--I just did--and moved it to the end of the first sentence.

  I'm so happy to have met you, and that you're here on Wikipedia, playing around and making helpful additions. I hope your colleagues are having good experiences as well. Regards, Drmies (talk) 18:01, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Three heads are better than one

Six heads are better than three.
Softlavender (talk) 15:22, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Atlanta guy,

Sometimes, folks ask for help with articles here. I have written a new article, Grace Quan, and think that it is halfway decent, but would really appreciate feedback and improvements from other editors. As the italics hint, it is not a biography but rather an article about a Chinese-American shrimp fishing junk. Please feel free to tear it apart, and I do appreciate feedback. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:25, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

• Ah, so your little trip did pay off, didn't it. I'll be glad to have a closer look: it already looks very nice. I suppose at some point you'll want to write History of the San Francisco Bay shrimp fishery. Drmies (talk) 11:59, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Precisely. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 14:50, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

TFA

Precious again, your Man in the Moone: "that together ... we've produced one of the best, if not the best, encyclopedic accounts of this rather short but surprisingly influential book you're likely to find anywhere". I agree.

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:43, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks Gerda! And thanks for helping to keep it clean, too. Drmies (talk) 11:56, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Rucoy Online

Are mobile apps web content? More like software to me. Adam9007 (talk) 00:07, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

• Either that, or it's a browser game--certainly in spirit. Drmies (talk) 00:10, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
  • The link gave the impression it's an android app. Adam9007 (talk) 00:12, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Adriaan van Hees

On 2 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Adriaan van Hees, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Dutch Nazi, actor, and theater critic Adriaan van Hees became depressed when he discovered he was part Jewish, but still volunteered for the SS—and was denied? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Adriaan van Hees. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Adriaan van Hees), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:04, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Best wishes for the 4th

Drmies, have a happy and safe holiday. Cheers, from 99, 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:10, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

• I thought I just ran into some of your good work. Thanks. Yes, you too, and happy America! Drmies (talk) 14:13, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi protect request

Would you be able to please semi protect Jeff Teague (basketball) and George Hill (basketball) on the same grounds as your semi protection of Solomon Hill (basketball)? Both are involved in a reported trade that is not official yet, and lots of anons are making premature, poorly sourced edits. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 16:19, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

• DaHuzyBru, let's see if three days is enough. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:16, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Much appreciated! DaHuzyBru (talk) 18:55, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Fun with Google Translate

Hello dear, I found this output of Google Translate particularly amusing: "Hatred sower in WW II Henk Feldmeijer and Dutch SS on polygon images he runs perky for the SS troops". Perky polygons seem to have been popular in Adriaan's party! Google Translate answered my questions, but a couple of questions from other people have arrived at Talk:Adriaan van Hees. I hope you are as well as can be expected given the recent developments about your home country and the rest of Europe soon being Cut Off by something more substantial than fog. MPS1992 (talk) 17:54, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks for the pointer. Drmies (talk) 19:21, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

• If he volunteered for the 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking and was denied, how could he be dishonourably discharged? Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:38, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

• I see what you mean. Hold on--gotta pull that PDF back up. Drmies (talk) 22:43, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
• Hmm. OK, I removed it--the source is not that clear. He was not discharged from the NSB, and the only "service" (dienst) from which he could have been discharged is the WA, but that's not stated clearly enough. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:56, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

• I changed the link to "Waffen-SS" from "SS". I suspect he had just enough stupidity to volunteer, and just enough intelligence to screw up the interview. "Swiss SS man" by Heinrich Böll's about a bonehead who is lying wounded in a military hospital, surrounded by Germans who think he's an idiot. Böll suggested a memorial to the unknown soldier, with the word "SHIT!" engraved on it, given that's the last thing most dead soldiers said. We've got the maundering, sentimental "First day of the Somme" stuff going on here- the Royal Mail should issue a few stamps with some Henry Tonks paintings in 'em to shut everybody up (warning- very scary). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 05:27, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

• Eh, fear not, dear maiden, war is kind? Drmies (talk) 13:05, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

FYI

On 15 June 2016 you expressed dismay when an article you created was deleted without notifying you. As someone who occupies the ivory towers you may not be aware that that not all editors, including admins and admin-wannabes believe that page creators should always be notified when pages they created are nominated for deletion. See: Answer to question 14.in this RFA. Ottawahitech (talk) 00:23, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

• Ivory towers? Drmies (talk) 00:38, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • More like Fawlty Towers. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 09:08, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Donald Trump

Under the talk page restrictions at Donald Trump, you could have been blocked without warning for this edit - the addition should not have been made in the first place (as a potentially controversial edit), and after it was challenged, you should have waited until there was a consensus to restore it. StAnselm (talk) 02:03, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

• Why on earth would that highly verified/verifiable note be "potentially controversial"? It's rather your removal that is potentially controversial. But go ahead and look at the talk page. See, StAnselm, it's stuff like that, when there is nothing seriously controversial going on, that makes for an unpleasant editing atmosphere. Then you go ahead and warn Midnightblueowl after you reverted their edit, saying that their edit was reverted and thus controversial, producing the circumstances that allow you to reprimand them. CFredkin and I disagreed over something, and now we're laying out evidence on the talk page, all in good spirits. Isn't that better? Drmies (talk) 02:14, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, I'm not an admin, so I don't have power to block you, but this was certainly a blockable action. Yes, the evidence is laid out on the talk page, but the addition has been disputed as not being in the source provided, and as it stands it's a BLP violation. StAnselm (talk) 07:00, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Good luck with that, StAnselm. Drmies (talk) 14:22, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Makeandtoss topic ban

Hi Drmies. I am just letting you know that the user Makeandtoss has been in the IRC help channel to discuss the terms of his topic ban, and specifically how he could go about getting an error in an article corrected, and if he could comment on its talk page. I explained that this would not be possible per the terms of the ban, and that it would need to be lifted for him to have any involvement around the topic area at all. From what I gather he has already appealed the ban twice, including just last month, and I also note that it appears to expire in August anyway. I therefore recommended he wait out the ban due to the recent review by yourself, and that he should raise it with you or the noticeboard if he wants to appeal again. I have told him I am leaving you this note as a courtesy, and he is keen to note he is not going to break the ban or appeal again. KaisaL (talk) 12:56, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

I have interest in knowing if I am allowed to discuss something happening in the article that I was topic banned from, in its talk page or on other users talk page? Makeandtoss (talk) 13:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

• Makeandtoss, you are not allowed to discuss the topic at all on Wikipedia, that's the point of the ban. KaisaL, I assume you saw User_talk:Makeandtoss/Archive_1#January_2016. But I tell you what, if you have faith in this editor, we might cut this short--who knows, the world might come to an end before August, and we'll all be dead with that error still in the article. So if you want, go ahead and undo the topic ban (by which I mean make a note in the log)--I still need to do my exercises and I haven't had coffee yet. Makeandtoss, no more accusations please, and happy Wikipediaing. Drmies (talk) 14:29, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

@Drmies: I don't really know enough about the block and the situation to feel confident in making any decision on repealing it. On one hand, it only has a short time left, so lifting it now may not be especially controversial. On the other hand, because there's only a short time left, it's also reasonable to simply ask Makeandtoss to wait the final few weeks. I'm not going to over rule you, I only handled his help channel request. KaisaL (talk) 14:35, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

@KaisaL: Makeandtoss would appreciate not waiting for the final few weeks, the context of the ban was because I was making sockpuppetry accusations against users and I unfortunately made another one while Drmies was warning me. 5 months were quite long enough for my (I like to get things done) mentality. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

• KaisaL, there was no question of overrunling--I just wanted someone else to do the paperwork. :) Makeandtoss, happy editing. Drmies (talk) 17:15, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, he's went and returned to the controversy immediately, it would seem. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Comment from JordanianExpert. KaisaL (talk) 00:50, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Gerd Neggo

Drmies, I was wondering whether the issues you raised in your DYK review have been addressed by the most recent edits. If not, are what remain factual issues (misinterpretation of source material), grammar-related issues, or both? Thanks for anything you can do to help this nomination proceed. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:14, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

• BlueMoonset, thanks for the reminder--I must have missed a ping. BTW, that ping system, I don't know if something has changed or is malfunctioning, but it's weird. Drmies (talk) 17:35, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

• You're welcome, Drmies. Thanks for the quick action. Ping has always seemed a bit unreliable, especially from Template space, and some people have their accounts set up so that pings don't get to them from certain namespaces. Plus, it's dependent on a sig posted at the time the ping is, I believe. I tend to copy the user wikilinks instead of pinging; I've had generally good luck with them. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:09, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

• No, I'm having different issues--I look at the messages, the colored number goes off, and five minutes later it's colored again. Then on foreign wikis I also get notifications of pings here, and sometimes I get a real weird-looking screen that looks like a dashboard. And sometimes the notifications aren't a pop-up kind of screen, but a full, new page. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. Drmies (talk) 02:26, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks for your input. It was footnote #4 in the article. I merely restored the old, vague Google result; you're right that I should have filled out the details more. However things were getting a bit hot and bothered. Have a good day.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 16:21, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Bring on the Ajacciers!

Poor old Filipe Santos Oliveira: in his reference #3, do you think it's enough the way I have translated, or we definitely need to have "gelederen" translated (I got "ranks" in the Google T thingy, makes zero sense)?

All the best as always, thanks in advance --Be Quiet AL (talk) 23:41, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

• "Ajax has three trial players in its ranks"? I don't know; it's old-fashioned language. But it doesn't say "offers trials"--it says three players who are on trial are playing for them. Drmies (talk) 02:19, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Old-fashioned but accurate, i'll have your suggestion any day of the week, consider it retrieved to article! --Be Quiet AL (talk) 02:53, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

A bio for your attention

Hi Dr and talk page stalkers, I happened across John Bruce Wallace, and have requested assistance at the BLP board. I've begun the process of removing much unsourced and self-promotional content and anecdotal personal history. If anyone's in the mood to have a look, please jump in. There's even the standard 'what the critics said' section, replete with blurbs. Cheers from 99, 2601:188:1:AEA0:194D:F97C:7B39:6E83 (talk) 14:38, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Cheers 99, thanks for the heads-up; I commented here and have trimmed the crap from it- so far so good. But the COI probably needs addressing sooner rather than later! (I know you have been, btw), cheers, _Muffled ^Pocketed 14:59, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Given long term direction, the account and article bear watching. Cheers, 2601:188:1:AEA0:194D:F97C:7B39:6E83 (talk) 15:03, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Time to arm the bears. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 15:16, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Or at least provide them with timepieces. 2601:188:1:AEA0:194D:F97C:7B39:6E83 (talk) 15:20, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Classic! Never miss an opportunity to poke VH in the eye, eh _Muffled ^Pocketed 15:22, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Oh, hell, I got nothing against VH (though when I was young I couldn't stand that sort of playing, but that's neither there nor here), but it was too good a quote to resist, and must reside safely in Mr. Wallace's scrapbook. 2601:188:1:AEA0:194D:F97C:7B39:6E83 (talk) 15:26, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Right on. Drmies (talk) 15:28, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

And another, at which I'd appreciate extra eyes, Darren Hanlon. Nothing egregious here, but a new WP:SPA started out by adding unsourced and promotional content. Thanks, 2601:188:1:AEA0:194D:F97C:7B39:6E83 (talk) 21:43, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Dear Drmies, Can you help? 'cause I'm a bit confused here! According to Athenean User:Betsyhaas73 is sock of User:Sulmues, but Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations says otherwise, so I don't know from where Athenean got their info? Thank you, Mona778 (talk) 00:27, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Easy, Athenean is just wrong. I don't see why it matters to you, but you could always point out their error on their Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:33, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Dear Bbb23, First, thanks for the quick response. Second, for edit summary, which I made an error by just following them without proper investigation first! See here [2] and here [3] Mona778 (talk) 00:57, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks Bbb. Mona, this is exciting subject matter. Drmies (talk) 01:01, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

How do you do, dear? It's been a long time since we haven't heard from each other, but you and admin Ponyo will always have a special place in my heart forever... Mona778 (talk) 01:23, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Ponyo is special to me too. Always nice to see you, Mona, and if you get into trouble, may it be exciting trouble. Drmies (talk) 01:30, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

I actually just recently got into one, but thanks to admin Ponyo... [4] Mona778 (talk) 01:58, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Mona dear, you have an indefatigable tendency for getting into such trouble. But now that I have linked you to it, you can edit on British battleships and their behaviour for a while! Many of them or ships named like this came near places we both care about in the past, and some still do I think.

But, what a strangely spelled word it is, and so many of the meanings are about oil and gas fields. It is a sad world we live in. MPS1992 (talk) 21:09, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Category:Children's books about death

That, or similar, might need to become blue. New potential member: The Dead Bird (book). LadyofShalott 01:48, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Richard Magnus Franz Morris

Whew; responding to your ping on this, Dr. There's nothing there I can corroborate with reliable sources. In fact, I can't find anything about him online, other than the obit, which isn't itself reliable. I hate to suggest AfD, but can anybody dig up anything? Thanks. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 12:02, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

And by the way, that commemorative months business? Cheezus, they don't pay you enough here. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 12:48, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I know! We should have a special session devoted to "we don't get paid enough around here" at the next Wikimania. You and me. And Crisco. And Bbb. And a host of others. Drmies (talk) 14:41, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Siege of Al-Karak (1834)

Would you please weigh in on the reference question on the talk page? However. It is of no great consequence to me, but I would like to finish the job if I can. If not then I'll just move on to greener pastures. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:39, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

• Tomorrow, 7&6. This pasture is plenty green. Drmies (talk) 02:33, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
• Looks great, 7&6. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 13:07, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:10, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Vote

While the edit for which I just thanked you is clearly yours, that might not be clear to others ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

FYI, the ~ is beside the 1 key. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:03, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

It's okay, we don't expect our Arbcom members to actually know how to type. ;-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 22:14, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

No, as long as they work towards "befreit" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:22, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Wow. Did y'all's fitbits ping you out of the pool or something? I must have thought I was on my desktop computer. Tell you what, y'all take care of everything else to, and OR can sign for me. I'm having a beer. Drmies (talk) 22:41, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

It's only because we love you, Drmies. <3 Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 22:43, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Did someone say beer? Save me one, I'm still at work! Opabinia regalis (talk) 22:58, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

He didn't say beer; he said leer.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:17, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

I did say beer, and it was a Hoegaarden, kindly left by a rock and roller. Now, if y'all can go through my recent contributions and fix the other typos, and post the occasional "per Drmies", I'll see if I have another one for you here. Oh, he left some Sierra Nevada pale ales as well. Drmies (talk) 00:41, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

I have a beer on you, and another one, on 10 July, the day a good name was restored, after 300 years, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

M. Chapstick, please remember that Doktoro is not as you and I, and does not use a human keyboard layout. As a Nexiteer who ran away from the Gallifreyan Panopticon, xyr twiddle key is right next to the thing on the TARDIS console that looks like a trimphone. Uncle G (talk) 22:08, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't want to pry, but -- are you on drugs? Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:36, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

• Well now Boris, come on--my uncle on drugs? No more than I am, I'm sure, with fiber pills being my main line, so to speak. This is not to say that I know what a "trimphone" is--Oh! that's a trimphone! How quaint. The Nexit, Uncle, I don't think will be happening, though you never know: the Dutch fools voters have a habit of making strange decisions. I will have you know that I always fulfilled my duty as a citizen, having voted for a car-free Amsterdam many years ago, in a referendum that I think drew 19% of eligible voters to the polls. !!!! @@@@ ~~~~

Problem at Picarones

Hi Drmies. It came to my attention that this IP who was blocked two times (you being the last one to do so) is back in the form of this IP since he/she made the same vandal editing like the previous mentioned IP. And although I don't like jumping to conclusions, the only vandalism that ever happens in this article is the changing of the same content, which leads me to assume that the IP's are the same person. Thus I think it's safe to say the next time someone makes an edit like this it's safe to block them on the spot until they can prove their innocence. (N0n3up (talk) 05:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC))

• People vandalize on a Sunday at naptime? That's terrible. Drmies (talk) 19:03, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
• I see that NeilN is already on the case--thanks Neil. Drmies (talk) 19:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
  • It's somewhat more nuanced this time: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Constant_vandalism_at_Picarones --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:13, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Robert Maynard Hutchins

…who apparently said "This is a do-it-yourself test for paranoia: You know you've got it when you can't think of anything that's your fault." Anyway, had to check up who RMH was, and found a somewhat dense article on "great books" and re-organising educational establishments on Borgesian-Nietzschean lines or something. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 06:33, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

• Ah, yes--I am running into that fairly regularly these days. Drmies (talk) 13:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Discussion link

Hi. If you can find it, could you please give a link to that major comma discussion Rfc that you closed. I can't locate it in the archives with key words. There is an RM at the main Dr. King page where I'd like to link it. Thanks. Randy Kryn 11:04, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

• Here's the close. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 13:05, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Again I'm sorry, and I will suspend all AfD activity.

Hi Drmies,

You are right this time. Not only did I behave in a very rude manner in the Mr Eazi AfD, but I also made an even stupider mistake by telling another admin that I would humble you sooner or later in an AfD after she closed Masha as no consensus. I was unfair to her as well, giving her a hard time on her page. I've been dealing with several personal problems lately, and it wasn't the right time to get into AfDs. To be honest, I really wish you had changed your vote in the Masha AfD after I provided so many sources. I feel very disappointed, but I'll get over it. Now even Rebbing doesn't respect me because I slammed a singer whose article I nominated for deletion. She sent a pathetic messenger to the AfD that pissed me off, so I totally unloaded on her. So don't take it too personally. But of course I'm very sorry and I apologize to you for being an a-hole. Ivana is someone I won't apologize to, not in a thousand years, but I must emphasize that I deeply regret the way I behaved towards you. It's all sad and ironic because four girls who are sisters in a band refuse to forgive me for something I said a year ago, even though I apologized again recently. I thought they had seen that my intentions were good, but no, they were hurt and they are afraid of getting hurt by me again. I learned that on Saturday. I did not give Rebbing a hard time, and at least I sort of helped the other admin from the UK in an AfD of an Armenian guy (the admin that closed the Masha AfD as no consensus). So I hope she appreciates that, but I was an idiot with her too, as I said. Plus I don't know why I wanted some sort of revenge against you. I guess I forgot my medication.

What I will do is quit the AfDs immediately. I will take a break from Wikipedia, and at the most I will be a WikiGome just once in a while, but maybe not even that. I don't want to cause any more problems. I will not return to AfDs. I hope to create an article at some point for a singer that I'm fond of, but just like I was bad to you I could be bad to others if I come back to AfDs, or article talk pages, etc. I will permanently stay away from all those situations. That nominator called SwisterTwister or something like that is totally out of control but there's nothing I can do. However, I alienated Davey too, who's a great guy. It's all a pity. I should go to a monastery or something. Anyway, for all practical purposes I'm gone and I won't cause any more trouble in the community. I will not touch any of the AfDs I've been involved in, and I won't go back to that in the future. Once again, I'm terribly sorry. Dontreader (talk) 15:45, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

• Dontreader, I'm kind of on the run and can only skim, but let me just say that Wikipedia needs those who defend articles at AfD, and if it's about winning and losing, terms I don't really like, I don't mind losing if I voted delete since we typically end up with a better article, which is why we're here. Sorry I have to run; I'll respond in more detail later if you like me to. Drmies (talk) 16:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Many thanks for saying that. I will definitely improve Masha's article even further. For the record, I'm not a fan of hers at all because she uses foul language (at least on Facebook), but I really should use the AfD sources to make her article better (at least the more solid ones). Your message is very interesting to me. Since you appreciate editors who defend articles, I will continue to do so, at least sporadically, but I have to solve some personal problems first since I don't want to make the same mistakes again. Above all, I must always assume good faith. Many thanks for your message. Dontreader (talk) 23:38, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
    • Hey, Dontreader, I read what you wrote above but deliberately and consciously didn't look further into your edit history. I have commented on thousands of AfD debates and have learned that it is a bad idea to get too emotionally involved in the debate itself. If you advocate keeping an article, then go right ahead and work on improving the content and referencing. If done competently, that will almost always result in the article being kept. If you support deleting, make your argument calmly, in a policy based fashion, and then step away from the debate. I have occasionally failed to follow my own advice, but when I do follow my own advice, the results are generally satisfactory, and no one's feelings get hurt more than is absolutely necessary. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
      • Hi Cullen328, I appreciate your wise advice. I guess I got too emotionally involved in the recent Masha (singer) AfD because I spent so much time trying to defend the article. You will notice that I did improve that article but not enough (I have to get back to it) because I spent so many hours looking for sources. I said I spent over 10 hours on that project, but in reality it was more like 20 hours, even though I had never heard of that singer. I knew the vodka commercial music very well, but not Masha at all. It's very hard not to get emotionally involved after making such an effort. That AfD broke all records in that sense (well, perhaps comparable to The Wakes long ago). The situation with Ivana's article was unique in the sense that it's an article that I created, and then recently I found information that made me decide that I had bent the rules, so I decided to nominate it for deletion. I thought it was bad for my reputation to have that article on my list of created articles (ironically the nomination further damaged my reputation). I was a big fan of hers until a few months ago. I regret the attitude of a guy she sent to defend the article, trying to make me feel guilty. It brought back memories from the incident that made me decide to quit supporting her, so it really got out of control. But I was irresponsible because I shouldn't be in AfDs when I'm very upset about personal things. I should be in a calm state beforehand. I can do much better than that, and I'm grateful for your advice. I always choose easy cases for my Delete votes, so I've never had problems with those AfDs. But for my Keep votes, is it okay to keep on adding comments with new sources? I can't find them all at the same time, of course. But then I don't want to look like I "dominated" the Keep camp by posting so much. If I just move on after I find my initial sources then the article could get deleted. I sometimes find great sources days later by using different search tricks. Many thanks for your kindness! Dontreader (talk) 07:28, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

@Dontreader: If you are referring to @Davey2010: above, then I can reassure you that I have found him very patient and forgiving on occasions where disputes have become heated. So I am sure you could have good hopes that he would be happy to let bygones be bygones, especially because you have mentioned in detail here that you felt bad about how the situation developed. MPS1992 (talk) 18:20, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Are you into this sort of thing?

Sometimes I wonder: this sort of thing. -- Softlavender (talk) 05:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

That's so, like 2004. So passé. Hard to believe that this type of "garbagio", as my sons say when they are trying to seem sophisticated, still festers here on Wikipedia. But I am, increasingly, a cranky old man. Maybe other editors think that such stuff is amusing and acceptable. Whatever. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:18, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

• Cullen, it's just some kids having some fun. Although, kids--there is a gallery. Some things can't be unseen. BTW, who wears bathrobes? You, Softlavender? In case you were asking, you have both my permission and my blessing, of course, but you can't wear it here. Drmies (talk) 12:21, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

I recommend keeping it on. The alternatives are hideous. _Muffled ^Pocketed 12:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

^^^joke

Hey now. Drmies (talk) 14:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Soap boxing

Hi Drmies. I'm wondering if you could offer some advice as to how to best proceed in regards to Talk:Baby, It's Cold Outside#Evidence of tobacco influences guarding this Wikipedia page. This particular editor has been previously using the Teahouse, Tobacco references in music and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tobacco references in music as a bit of a soapbox for her OR, but now it looks as if she might be expanding her range to other articles. I'm pretty sure the YouTube links she's added to the talk page post and tried to add to the article with this edit are/were copyvios, but not sure if it's appropriate to hat/remove the entire talk page post. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:24, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I enjoy a good soap boxing-match. Almost as much as I enjoy pig wrestling, but that's a great deal messier, as one might imagine. Softlavender (talk) 14:20, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

• Wait. What? We have an anti-tobacco influence on Wikipedia lobby? Softlavender, I am sure that by the time I get there you will have taken command of the situation. Drmies (talk) 16:48, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

• YouTube videos are not copyright violations if they are from the artist's or studio's official YouTube channel, which at least one of the ones I have looked at there clearly is (I haven't checked the other articles). Also, there is no reason to hat a talk page discussion or post simply because it contains a link to a YouTube video, copyrighted or not. Softlavender (talk) 17:33, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Is Wikipedia Pro-Aislinn Paul fans, and disliking Miriam McDonald?

Drmiles,

I'm disappointed and SMH at you reverting my edits. Is there a theory that Wikipedia are pro-Aislinn Paul fans, and disliking Miriam McDonald (my favorite Degrassi actress)? I've been harshly criticized recently by Imperious Wikipedians like Yamaguchi先生 and Cyphoidbomb. The latter accused me of so-called SOAPBOXING. I had to complain to Wikipedia, then they replied and they refused to help my problems. So I had to do my YouTube video about my Wikipedia Displeasures and showing how I feel and criticized Wikipedia's changes in recent years. Go to YouTube and search Spencer Karter (my name) and watch the video to express how I feel.

Sir, I've been a Wikipedian since late 2004 before those absurd changes took place on Wikipedia. I have to express my disapproval of your edits. Thank you very much, have a great day! Spencer H. Karter (talk) 17:47, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello Shkarter1985, I hope Drmies will not mind if I offer my opinion here. I have not been a Wikipedian for such a long time, but I do feel that if you have been a Wikipedian since 2004 then you would be well aware that Wikipedia does not have a view one way or the other about the relative merits of Paul and McDonald. Individual editors might have opinions, but that should not be reflected in their editing, because we aim to adhere to neutral point of view WP:NPOV. Sorry, I have not watched your YouTube video. May I ask what absurd changes to Wikipedia have taken place since 2004? MPS1992 (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

To answer your question MPS1992 I'll give the list of absurd changes that Wikipedia made over the years.

1.)Wiki Bots (I can't stand those Wiki Bots) 2.)Having Moderators 3.)Protected Articles and denying Wikipedians to edit. This is THE FREE ENCYCLOPEDIA not the UN-FREE!

That's all I can say! But put the words 'stalker reply' on your response. I'm a good person, I'm not a stalker, I do have autism and I'm caring person and very sympathetic guy. I don't like it when someone damages my reputation. I do get upset when somebody saids bad about me. On when days when something bad happens to me and my family, I do get panic anxiety attacks and I can't help it. People have feelings too. Just they saying "God don't like ugly" and I don't like people who do bad to me. But we have to love our enemies unfortunately as the bible say. I don't like it when someone makes false statements about me, I would have sue that random person for slander. In conclusion, that's all I can say once again! Thank you! Spencer H. Karter (talk) 18:20, 13 July 2016 (UTC)