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If you're already familiar with policy, please excuse the template. [[User:Tom harrison|Tom Harrison]] <sup>[[User talk:Tom harrison|Talk]]</sup> 23:07, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
If you're already familiar with policy, please excuse the template. [[User:Tom harrison|Tom Harrison]] <sup>[[User talk:Tom harrison|Talk]]</sup> 23:07, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:Template excused. [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte#top|talk]]) 23:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:Template excused. What I am currently engaged in is a discussion on the talk page, which, at this point, appears to have demonstrated that information is being removed due to an inaccurate reading of policy. Feel free to refute. [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte#top|talk]]) 23:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

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Hello Cosmic Latte. I'm not trying to be cute, concerning mentioning of the United States presidential election, 2008. If Bush dies, resigns or is removed from office before his term expires? Cheney would be the 44th President. This time - I've replaced 44th with next. GoodDay (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've also changed 44th President to next President, at the 2009 article. PS- Though I disagree with using 44th, I won't revert (again) if you guys prefer to keep it. GoodDay (talk) 19:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll leave it up to other folks, too. Seems like both of us have pretty much stated our cases on the matter. Cosmic Latte (talk) 10:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For those of you who might be interested in time-related articles and edits, and would like some more information about the above dispute: Basically, it boiled down to a debate about how to apply the WP:FUTURE policy to an upcoming presidential election. A very broad interpretation of this policy might suggest that, because WP is not a crystal ball, it can't predict that the next U.S. president will be the 44th. Because some extraordinary circumstances could make him or her the 45th, WP can only claim that the election will be for the "next" president. My view, however, is that this argument is a "slippery slope" to saying that, because WP isn't a crystal ball, it can't say anything about the future, because there is always the possibility--however minute--that some extraordinary circumstance could change all plans. What if a meteor or supervolcano wipes out the human population? What if a wandering black hole eats the entire planet? Thankfully, however, a close reading of WP:FUTURE excuses us from making such bizarre considerations, because it states:
[A.] Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place. [...]
[B.] Articles that present extrapolation, speculation, and "future history" are original research and therefore inappropriate.
To assume that the next presidential election will be the 44th (or that the human race and Planet Earth will be around tomorrow) is to meet condition A, whereas to recognize the possibility that it will be the 45th (or that Armageddon is just around the corner) is to meet condition B. Thus the former assumption is, in my view, acceptable, whereas the latter recognition is not. Cosmic Latte (talk) 03:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not trying to be rude, just correct. Since multiple free nations such as the United States view Hezbollah as a terrorist organization I must credit anyone helping their cause or working for them as a terrorist.

Thanks for letting me know. But "terrorist" (not to mention "free nation") is one point of view, which, in an enclycopedia, is just as important as any other point of view. "Militant" is undisputed fact. See WP:POV. Cosmic Latte (talk) 23:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

British usage on Wikipedia

Unfortunatley, I've ran into trouble (in the past) trying to push for British usage. The biography articles like Sean Connery (for example), refuse to use British. GoodDay (talk) 16:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If Rab-k thinks Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales & England are/were the only states to merge into a larger state? He's incorrect. GoodDay (talk) 19:14, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The constituent country article does indeed list examples other than the UK. Even the United States was formed as a sort of "merger" of smaller colonies that still (as states) retain a notable degree of individual autonomy. But Americans are still listed here as "American," not "Californian" or "New Yorkian" (is that a word?) or whatever. In any event, the British listings are highly inconsistent. Some say British; others say English, Welsh, etc., and I imagine that some sort of standardization would be good. Cosmic Latte (talk) 01:22, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, British should be the usage. GoodDay (talk) 14:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Tallulah

Maybe MI-5 poisoned Tallulah through her lipstick & cigarettes. S2grand (talk) 22:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)s2grand[reply]

Okay, but can you add a reference to back up that idea? Cosmic Latte (talk) 22:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What are you? Hall Monitor for the day??!! While I was researching other material to add to a new section some busybody has to stick his or her nose in in the next minute. That's why the info was at the end. It's enough to make people quit contributing!!!

I simply asked if you could back up your claim with a reliable source, and would have said nothing further had you mentioned that, for example, you were in the process of adding and referencing material for the section. That hardly amounts to a WP:AGF violation on my part, as you seem to be implying. You might be interested in this page (I see that someone has already directed you to this one on your talk page) regarding the importance of supporting your assertions. Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work

The Editor's Barnstar
For first-rate copyediting and cleanup of the article 20th century. Groupthink (talk) 13:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disasters

Just a notification, but it appears that 219.23.5.48 (talk · contribs)--who seemed obsessed with plane crashes--has returned as 125.200.168.91 (talk · contribs) --CalendarWatcher (talk) 09:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that does appear to be the same person. Still adding unsourced disasters, I see, and (since he's currently on a 72-hour block) is in violation of WP:SOCK, so I've referred him to administration. Thanks for catching that! Cosmic Latte (talk) 10:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other

Please stop vandalising the marriage page.

I am reverting your WP:POV (and now WP:NAD) violations. That is not vandalism on my part. If you think you can improve the article, feel free to take advantage of the article's talk page. Cosmic Latte (talk) 06:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, please sign your comments with four tildes (~'s). Cosmic Latte (talk) 06:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replied

I have replied to your RfA query about which areas might be a good place to get started garnering the requisite experience. I hope it helps. If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to ask. Cheers! Wisdom89 (T / C) 20:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

'Twas helpful indeed. Thanks! Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:23, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your RfA

Hello, Cosmic Latte. I have closed your Request for Adminship per WP:NOTNOW as it was unlikely to succeed at the time. Please do not take it personally, as it was nothing against you. If you gain more experience and become active in more projects, I am confident you will succeed in the future, should you choose to submit another request. In the meantime, you may consider taking up Editor Review or Admin coaching, if you haven't already.

If you have any other questions about my closure, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Cheers, --Mizu onna sango15/珊瑚15 21:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks! Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In appreciation

Hey, I just wanted to say that I appreciated your effort to present yourself in the RfA process. Please let me know when you plan to give it another go. I believe that time is your ally and that you will be a fine admin in the near-future. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 07:05, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delayed response. But thank you for your kind comments in response to my RfA nomination. I'll certainly let you know if I apply again. :-) Cheers, Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

how is he not notable? he was a former footballer who has made professional league appearances in the past, which is the football notability guideline here on wikipedia, other people of this genre has been added to the death lists in the past and kept, so why not him? 86.148.189.82 (talk) 21:28, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If a reliable source demonstrates that he meets WP:FOOTYN criteria, then sure. However, your other entries--Wrestlemania and Guitar Hero--do not belong in the year article. Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:35, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm...looks like you didn't add those other two articles originally, although you certainly re-added them with your revert. Be sure to take notice of what your reverts are actually doing. Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I did not mean to re-add them, that was an accident. 86.148.189.82 (talk) 21:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, I just noticed. You seem to know the criteria, so I won't raise any more objections about Carter. Sorry about the confusion. Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

68.186.180.66

You went a little too far adding a last warning on this IP. It was the IP's 1st vandalism warning since November last year. I think a uw-1 would be better.(Planecrash111 (talk) 02:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Maybe so. But since this edit doesn't exactly look like an innocent test edit or an attempt to improve the article, I'd say WP:AGF is probably a moot point in his case. Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So perhaps v4 was indeed a bit much, but I'd probably have started with at least a v2 in his case, maybe a v3. Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In retrospect, by the way, you're absolutely right that V4 was too much. Although I thought I paid good attention to vandalism/warning dates in the past, I evidently didn't pay it close enough in some instances. Thanks for pointing that out. Cosmic Latte (talk) 18:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ta

Hah thanks for the typo fix, be a bit of a struggle to achieve a neural point of view :)

Indeed. =) No problem! Cosmic Latte (talk) 14:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Syntyche

Can you provide me with a link to the AfD discussion for this article? I can't find it; I'm probably just missing it. Tan | 39 15:06, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe there was an AfD discussion, but I inferred from the "or" in the CSD A5 criterion that there didn't need to be one if the article had already been transwikied. But I'll get an AfD discussion going anyway. Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I started an AfD discussion, but withdrew my nomination after it became apparent that the article has potential to be expanded significantly beyond an ostensible dictionary definition. Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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My pleasure

Thank you for your fine message. Yes, please keep me updated on your activities. You will be a fine administrator in the not-too-distant future. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

20th century boundary revert.

Thanks. Unfortunately, he tagged all the other (AD) centuries and millennia also. I think I've got all of them. Perhaps we should create a template, but that would have to violate the AD/Common era "cease fire". — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Astrology

I see the subject interests you. I don't know if this is from an observers POV or as a practitioner, but in 1976 when I held a vigil at the Liberty Memorial Mall in Kansas City after the Republican National Convention (Ref: Kathleen Patterson, 'Prophet Chooses Park for Vigil', The Kansas City Times, 13 September, 1976, pg 3A and Robert W. Butler, 'Prophet Plans Appeal of Conviction', The Kansas City Times, 2 November, 1976) I enjoyed frequent access to drop into the studio of a local night radio talk show. One time an astrologist by the name of Gars Austin was on the line from Texas giving brief chart readings based only on the birth date of callers. Coming up to a news break and not knowing me, from the studio I asked if he could do a more in depth reading based on my birth at 8am Sunday morning in Montreal May 21, 1944. The talk show host, the listeners and I were amazed with what he came back with. I asked if the charts showed anything significant around February 1, 1975 the date of my Spiritual resurrection. He didn't know anything about that. We were all surprised when he said, "According to my chart, on that date you had a very powerful Spiritual experience." From that time I had to give more credence to what is written in the stars. Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nucular appeal

I see the discussion to appeal the deletion of Nucular but can't see how to participate. The "edit this page" tab doesn't do the job. Would you kindly divulge the mysteries? Thanks. Thirdbeach (talk) 20:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind -- found it -- the [Edit] link at right. Thirdbeach (talk) 20:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, really appreciate your comments throughout. Sound reasoning ... love it. Thirdbeach (talk) 22:27, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your feedback and for your contributions to the appeal! Your reasoning, too, is sound, and is much appreciated. Cosmic Latte (talk) 05:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DSM-IV Proposal Input

Would you consider adding any input to our proposal regarding the DSM-IV. Input is being collected on our talk page. Thanks! Mindsite (talk) 21:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My RFA Thanks

Thank you for your support at my RFA, which has now closed as a success. And thank you for your comments about my answer to question 3: outstanding in its thoroughness and thoughtfulness... I'm blushing as I type this!. Seriously though, your support means a great deal to me.

As for the issue you raised about magic secrets - I am in aggreement that secrets should be just that: secret. However, the compromise situation that we have of removing unsourced secrets is about as good as we can get at the moment. Maybe in time we will be able to get all secrets removed, and I am quite happy to champion the cause then. But for the moment, wikicalm has settled on this contentious issue, and I'd rather let sleeping dogs lie. Hmmm... any other mixed metephors that I can add to that last sentence?

Once again, thanks for your support. StephenBuxton (talk) 16:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome. Congratulations! Cosmic Latte (talk) 16:46, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


You are quite confused

The dictionary is not at the summary page, its at the publication page. If you click on "more information" you will see the official entry. Here. Next time you mock one of the most important mental health research groups, at least get your information correct. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of "more information," you might like to give WP:CIV and WP:AGF a read in your spare time. Cheers, Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
By accusing me of being incivil, you are actually breaching AGF. The irony is amusing. By saying you are confused and showing you how to find the actual information is being completely civil and showing the utmost of good faith. Instead, I could have called you a troll who is spreading bad information and attacking valuable contributors to that page. I didn't. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And I could have called you uncivil, but I didn't; I simply suggested a reading list. Thankfully I didn't actually call you uncivil, any more than you actually just called me "a troll who is spreading bad information and attacking valuable contributors to that page." ;-) Actually, your tone of voice, and your accusatory-sounding section title here, came across as rude to me, and "rudeness" is listed as an example of WP:CIV. But I suppose rudeness is somewhat subjective, and WP:COOL might have been a better first choice. My apologies if I seemed rude to you as well. Cheers, Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:41, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding my RfA

Hi there. I'm just a little confused about why you changed your mind. You're original support was:

"An intelligent, honest editor with firm knowledge of admin-related topics and a clear potential to use admin privileges to maintain the integrity of WP:MED, should he so choose. Answered questions thoroughly, candidly, and downright impressively."

And Dean B's opposition was:

"Don't really want to pile-on, when the user seems a good Wikipedian with excellent intentions. But as well as points raised above, looking through the contribs I don't see evidence the user actually talks and works with others. An admin should be a leader, someone who can work with disparate people and help them work together, a conciliator. An admin has to resolve disputes, to do that you need to be able to understand other points of view. Can I suggest you get involved in some article work and try and act like an admin in adminny places. You don't need the tools to be a leader here."

Considering I don't believe his oppose was based upon anything substantial, I have replied to his oppose and I'd like you to review it to see what you think. Contrary to Dean B's beliefs, I have contributed to article work (as backed up there by another user) and have had lots of contact with other users. Thanks for your time, happy editing! — CycloneNimrodTalk? 20:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me. I've changed back to support. Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thank you

Thank you!
Cosmic Latte, it is with deep awareness of the responsibility conferred by your trust that I am honored to report that in part to your support, my request for adminship passed (87/14/6). I deeply value the trust you and the Wikipedia community have in me, and I will embark on a new segment of my Wikipedia career by putting my new tools to work to benefit the entire community. My best to you, Happyme22 (talk) 05:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you for trusting me :) Happyme22 (talk) 05:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your kind remarks both during and after my RfA - much appreciated. Ben MacDui 10:54, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA of Cyclonenim 2

I have indented your RFA vote of Cyclonenim 2 in Neutral section as you moved to support. This will fix numbering. I hope you dont mind -- Tinu Cherian - 09:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. That's absolutely fine, though, and I'll try to remember to do that from now on. Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No problems...Have fun -- Tinu Cherian - 09:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit War on Sigmund Freud

Cosmic Latte, an edit war seems to be developing between me and Commodore Sloat on the Sigmund Freud article. Your comments/intervention would be welcome. Skoojal (talk) 09:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. I've just added my own two cents on the talk page. I think that the overall WP:CON there is in accordance with what you're doing, anyway. Cosmic Latte (talk) 14:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Latest signs are that the edit war is raging again, and just so there is no doubt, I regard this as equally Commodore Sloat's fault and my fault. Further comments/intervention may be needed. Skoojal (talk) 02:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Mononymous persons"

Thank you for expressing your opinion about retention of the article on "Mononymous persons."

There is a parallel discussion going on concerning the category "Category:Mononymous persons," at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_July_12#Category:Mononymous _persons, if you would care to express your views there. It seems to me that it would be a shame if the article were kept but the category were deleted.

Thank you. Nihil novi (talk) 06:30, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out. I left some input, and I hope that it's useful. Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is, very much so. Very eloquent, indeed. Thank you! Nihil novi (talk) 11:54, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pop Culture - "Cosmic Latte".... Who's Gary West...?

On July 21, Cosmic deleted a contribution which sourced Gary West and Mr Pop History. Cosmic opinioned - who's Gary West? and "what was the buying power of a 13-year-old in 1959?" If Cosmic only looked at the site sourced. It would have taken about one minute.

I'm the author of the site, now over 14,000 pages of Pop culture week-by-week content from the 1950's through the 2000's. I've also answered about 1400 questions in a weekly print column, which is also available on the site. And, I'm published and heard on national radio. The research has taken about 10 years and about 54,000 hours (1800 weeks x 3 hours each). All off-line. By the time its done - I'm looking at close to 2400 weeks. That's a lot of content from one person. I love doing it. But, hey - you asked!

On the sourced site, Mr. Pop History, Cosmic would have learned pop culture evolved from the buying power of baby boomer teens. That buying power was approaching around $1 billion in 1959. And, wouldn't it be nice to know that Dick Clark was the first, true - modern pop culture icon? The wiki-definition of pop culture is a little abstract for the average student to just source. It needs points in pop culture history - names and trends. God-forbid someone who knows this stuff take the time to contribute.

Unlike 99.9999% of Wiki entries, I put my name and source place up there (Wiki won't let you put a link - god forbid - so I sourced myself in name only in the paragraph). The idea - so the reader could see where it came from! If I'm wrong, I'll gladly take the responsibility. But, Wiki doesn't work that way. If my factoids are wrong, I get e-mails from readers. And believe me, I've gotten it wrong sometimes.

I also made a slight contribution - on the Rolling Stones page. That their first U.S. concert was in San Bernardino, CA. (Swing auditorium). And, it got deleted. What in the world is wrong with you guys??? Same thing - my name and source name. No links.

What I do not understand about Wiki and editors like Cosmic, who know very little about what they edit out from those who work hard. I was reluctant to add this fact, because Wiki has a terrible time - and seems to be confused about the real deal. I know several authors and experts who dare not post on Wiki for this very reason. Now I see, first hand - why!

What's amazing is - The Pop Culture Wiki page, says, "Please help improve the article." How in the world can you ask this when you've got "editors" deleting decent contributions from those who do and give-a-hoot.

And, so much of what's considered pop culture on WIKI can be added to. A ton of factoids.

Here's my real name. You can hold me accountable for anything on these sites.

Gary West - www.mrpopculture.com www.mrpophistory.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.110.155.16 (talk) 00:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're more than welcome to contribute, and I highly encourage you to do so. But I also encourage you to read WP:RS and WP:V. Reliability and, therefore, verifiability are difficult to achieve without the use of (relatively) independent publications. You may sometimes cite yourself as an author, but only in extraordinarily rare circumstances may you also cite yourself as a publisher. See WP:SPS, a section of WP:V, for details. Cosmic Latte (talk) 17:04, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA Thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, Cosmic Latte!
I am grateful for your confidence: My RfA passed by a count of 64/3/3, so I am now an administrator! Of course, I plan to conduct my adminship in service of the community, so I believe the community has a right to revoke that privilege at any time. Thus, I will be open for recall under reasonable circumstances. If you have any advice, complaints, or concerns for me, please let me know. Thanks again! Okiefromokla questions? 21:39, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA Thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, wich was successful with 73 support, 6 oppose, and 5 neutral.

I'll try to be as clear as I can in my communication and to clear some of the admin backlog on images.

If there is anything I can help you with, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page!

Cheers, --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA thankspam

Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.

Cheers!

J.delanoygabsadds 20:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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RFA thank-you

Thank-you for your support of me at my recent RFA, which was successful. I have appreciated everyone's comments and encouragement there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Freud Talk Page

Cosmic Latte, I have removed your unnecessary addition of the Freud bibliography to the Freud talk page - please do not restore it, since it serves no purpose, and talk page bloat is already a serious problem, thanks to my arguments with csloat. Skoojal (talk) 02:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While I'm on the subject, the talk page seems to need archiving. I'd do it, but I'm not sure how. Skoojal (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The instructions are at WP:AATP--not too hard to follow, but it might take a few minutes to apply. Cosmic Latte (talk) 07:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which did not succeed with 30 in support, 28 in opposition and 6 neutral votes. Thanks again for the support!


CycloneNimrodTalk? 15:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thankspam

Thanks to everyone who participated in my RfA, regardless of their !vote. I have withdrawn the nomination as a failure at 19 supports, 45 opposes, and 9 neutral statements.

As has been written and sung, you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need — and what I need is to go back to working on our shared project. Not everyone has to be an admin; there is a role for each of us. After reflection, I feel I don't have the temperament to secure community consensus as an admin at any point, and I will not be applying again in the future — and hey, that's all right, 'cause I stay true to the philosophy that adminship is no big deal: I tried, I failed, and now I'll return to doing what I've always done. I have an extremely strong belief in the consensus process, and the consensus was clear. I will be devoting my energies to volunteering at MedCab and working up a complete series of articles on the short stories of Ernest Hemingway, among lord knows what else. Thanks again to everyone who spared the time to weigh in on this one. It was made in better faith than it probably seemed.
Mr. IP Defender of Open Editing 14:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, thanks for the investment of good faith there; I really appreciated that. It looks like the admin thing didn't come together for me, but in the end it might be for the best — after all, I can find a million other ways to pitch in, and we can't all be admins. Looking forward to working w/ you in the future! Mr. IP Defender of Open Editing 14:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome! At the very least, your RfA certainly got people thinking. I highly admire your approach to Wikipedia. Keep up the good work! Cosmic Latte (talk) 15:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks!

Thank you...

...for participating in my RfA, which closed with 119 in support, 4 neutral and 5 opposes. I'm honestly overwhelmed at the level of support that I've received from the community, and will do my best to maintain the trust placed in me. I 'm also thankful to those who opposed or expressed a neutral position, for providing clear rationales and superb feedback for me to build on. I've set up a space for you to provide any further feedback or thoughts, should you feel inclined to. However you voted, thanks for taking the time out to contribute to the process, it's much appreciated. Kind regards, Gazimoff 22:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In case you wish to comment...

There is a movement afoot to delete "Category:Mononymous entertainers," at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 July 31 — item 1.13. (There is also, slightly below that — item 1.16 — an analogous effort with regard to Category:Mononymous porn actors.) Nihil novi (talk) 08:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By the time I got around to looking at them, both discussions had closed. Thanks for pointing them out, though--and feel free to let me know if anything else comes up! Cosmic Latte (talk) 13:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I stumbled upon the two discussions late, myself. Thanks! Nihil novi (talk) 16:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The game's afoot again!

Current venue: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 August 6, item 1.3: Category:Mononymous persons. Nihil novi (talk) 04:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. I put in my own two cents' worth, and I hope it helps. Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A very eloquent contribution to the discourse. Thank you for taking the time and thought! Whatever the outcome, I think the "Keep" side is showing more intellectual rigor and creativity than the opposition. Nihil novi (talk) 09:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a question...

Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind my asking, what exactly is your academic and/or professional background? You seem to have extensive knowledge in about a zillion different areas, and I must say I'm quite impressed. Excellent work throughout the MDD article, by the way. Cosmic Latte (talk) 17:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am a psychiatrist, and..erm...had interest in birds, fungi, dinosaurs, astronomy, folklore, rpgs (games of all sorts), film/tv, geology, gardening, etc. since childhood - though my technical expertise in any of the other areas are highly variable (and luckily there are some others around better qualified). Most importantly though, I have a rather good memory  :) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:16, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Comedian about opinion polls

Saw your comment on an RFA, I'm not sure, but it sounds like you're thinking of Doug Stanhope's bit about CNN polls. "Do you think there will be a terrorist attack at the Olympics? 74% thought there would not be, 23% thought highly likely, 3% say don't know. YOU ALL DON'T FUCKING KNOW!!! There should be a big old pizza pie of no fucking clue whatsoever." If that sounds about right that's him. -Optigan13 (talk) 08:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! That sounds like it. Thanks! Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou

Just a little note to say thankyou for participating in my successful RFA candidacy, which passed with 96 supports, 0 opposes, and 1 neutral. I am pleasantly taken aback by the amount of support for me to contribute in an administrative role and look forward to demonstrating that such faith is well placed. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 10:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The mononymous person deletions

I thought the previous discussions (entertainer/porn actor) were closed in error by a biased admin. I feel this even more at this junction. How do you assess this process? (I'm querying Nihil novi similarly.) __meco (talk) 14:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review requested. __meco (talk) 16:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for alerting me to the deletion review. I've commented, and I hope that my input is helpful. I also find it extremely...interesting, to say the least, that the same admin closed all three mononym-related CFD's, deleting all three--even though I fail to discern consensus to delete in any of them, especially in the latest one (i.e., Mononymous persons). Cosmic Latte (talk) 01:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The entire deletion process appears to me to be reduced to somewhat of a sham if a small group of administrators are granted the privilege to overturn consensuses developed in the discussions, based on their "expert understanding" of the rules and their interpretation. __meco (talk) 06:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen similarly conducted proceedings referred to as "railroads." Nihil novi (talk) 07:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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My RfA

CL, thank you for your contribution to the discussion at my recent RfA. I like the equation. :) If ever you have any concerns about my actions, adminly or otherwise, don't hesitate to let me know. Best wishes, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 21:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DRV and lack of consensus

Deletion guidelines for administrators don't seem to be directly relevant because DRV is a procedural review and not yet another deletion discussion. Insofar as they are relevant, then just as no consensus in a deletion discussion leaves things the way they were, and so too at DRV. That which was kept stays kept, that which was deleted stays deleted. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just wondering because, as of yet, Wikipedia:DRV#Closing_reviews doesn't say what to do in the event that consensus isn't reached. So I defaulted to WP:DGFA, which I've interpreted as fairly inclusionistic. Your interpretation also makes sense, so it'll be good if one or the other is reflected someday in Wikipedia:DRV#Closing_reviews. Cosmic Latte (talk) 14:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it would make sense if it was mentioned there. I know I've seen other people closing DRVs the same way - Jerry for sure and others whose names I forget. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've always read "no consensus" to mean there is no consensus to do what is being requested. At XFD, the request would be to delete, so "no consensus" means no consensus to delete. At DRV, the request would be to overturn, so "no consensus" would mean no consensus to overturn. In both situations, "no consensus" equates to "do nothing". It might be clearer if the closer in both situations explained that better, closing as "no consensus to delete/overturn/etc" rather than just "no consensus". --Kbdank71 15:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, good point. I'm a bit surprised that pages like WP:DRV even leave this much open to interpretation, though--might be good to work towards clarifying on those pages what to do in no-consensus cases. Cosmic Latte (talk) 16:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, CL. Thank you for supporting Category:Mononymous persons. You tried your best. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 12:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your support, as well. I found your Bellucci/Durkheim example to be especially compelling. Cosmic Latte (talk) 13:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your kind reply. You did your best. And I'm interested in abnormal psychology. I know that you also interested in abnormal psychology. I've seen your contributions. I hope we can work together in future. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 14:12, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thank you

Cosmic Latte, I wish to say thanks for your support in my successful request for adminship, which ended with 82 supports, 3 opposes, and 1 neutral. I will do my best to live up to your expectations. I would especially like to thank Rlevse for nominating me and Wizardman for co-nominating me.
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never mind....

Once major depressive disorder is FA, then we can do borderline personality disorder and really go to town on therapies...I was planning to do that, but when there was a sponateous surge at mdd, I figured striking while the iron was hot was prudent....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me. All the recent interest in the MDD article has kept me pretty focused on that one for a while, so it'll certainly feel good once/if it reaches FA! Cosmic Latte (talk) 21:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
CL, I really appreciate your work on psychology-related articles. What about abnormal psychology? We can make that article better. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gawd...where to begin.....that'll be a huge task  :(( Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed...I just made a few tweaks to it, and I'll help out in more substantial ways when I can. Haven't had a lot of spare time lately, but hopefully that'll change in the not-too-distant future. Cosmic Latte (talk) 08:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've just created this to help get the ball rolling. Cosmic Latte (talk) 08:36, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Thanks for the kind words! I'm thinking I'll give it another go sometime between this and this. :-) The whole experience was informative, but nerve-wracking. Cheers! TNX-Man 14:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Thank you for your support in my recent RfA, which was successful with 58 support, 4 oppose and 1 neutral. Kind regards. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which succeeded with 71 support, 14 oppose, and 5 neutral. Thanks for your participation. I hope I serve you well!

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My RFA

Thank you for your support on my RFA! It was unsuccessful, but I appreciate your feedback. And thanks for the stated agreement that it was a good thing that I took a wikibreak – I concur ;). I hope to see you around Wikipedia, and I wish you the best,--danielfolsom 03:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Freud article - disagreement with Esterson

Cosmic Latte: there is a serious disagreement between myself and other editor (Esterson) over the Freud article; it's discussed on the talk page. I would strongly urge you to take an interest in this matter. Skoojal (talk) 08:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a count of (166/43/7). I appreciate your comments and in my actions as an administrator I will endeavor to maintain the trust you have placed in me. I am honored by your trust and your support. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 02:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Hi Cosmic Latte. I would like to thank you for your support in my RfA and the confidence expressed thereby. It is very much appreciated. :) The RfA was closed as successful with 73 supports, 3 opposes and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank WBOSITG for nominating me. Best wishes and thanks again, —αἰτίας discussion 23:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Treatment for depression

Are we at a point where the treatment section of Major depressive disorder can be trimmed down to a summary with links to Treatment for depression, Psychotherapy, Antidepressant, and Electroconvulsive therapy? --Ronz (talk) 18:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tricky subject Ronz. I am working on the main article and haven't looked at the daughter article for a bit. I will try and compare and get back to you. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'll leave it up to Cas, although I'm not too worried unless article size becomes an issue at FAC. If it does, then this could certainly be a reasonable route to take. Cosmic Latte (talk) 08:46, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a count of (154/3/2). I appreciate the community's trust in me, and I will do my best to be sure it won't regret handing me the mop. I am honored by your trust and your support. Again, thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Foxy Loxy's RfA

Hello, this message is to inform you that User:Foxy Loxy has restarted their RfA. The new discussion is located at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Foxy Loxy 2. GlassCobra 09:45, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, you've already participated in the new one. Sorry. :( GlassCobra 10:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You got a thank you card!

RFA Thanks

Cosmic Latte, I'd like to thank you for voting in my RFA. Thanks also for expressing your trust in me, and I hope that I live up to your expectations. Don't forget, if you have any questions (or bits of advice), please leave a message on my talk page. Thanks again, SpencerT♦C 02:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One of the advantages of not having many supporters at your RFA is that there are fewer people to thank at the end. Thanks for your support and your willingness to look at my complete record. I'm going to try to interpret this resounding defeat as a statement that I should choose my words more carefully in the future, and remember that every statement I make gets recorded forever, just waiting to get carefully transcribed onto my next RFA. I would go insane if I believed that it was repudiation of what I truly meant: that no editor should consciously and willfully ignore guidelines and policies, and editors that repeatedly do so should not be rewarded for or supported in doing so.

I'm sure I'll get back to full speed editing soon, because, after all, , every day, and in every way, I am getting better and better.—Kww(talk) 05:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks

Hello Cosmic Latte. Thank you very much for your support in my recent Request for Adminship, which was successful with 111 supports, 0 opposes, and 0 neutral. I have to say I am more than a little overwhelmed by this result and I greatly appreciate your trust in me. I will do my best to use the tools wisely. Thanks again. Regards. Thingg 01:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I much appreciate your vote of support in my recent RfA. Thank you for the trust. Lazulilasher (talk) 23:44, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My RFA

Hey there! Just a note thanking you for supporting my RFA which successfully passed with 60 supports, 0 opposes and 2 neutrals. I hope I'll be able to live up to everyone's expectations, and thank you for trusting me! All the best, Ale_Jrbtalk 20:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Xymmax RfA

I'd like to take a minute to let you know that I appreciate your support in my recently-closed RfA, which passed with a count of 56 in support, 7 in opposition, and 2 neutrals. I'll certainly try to justify your faith by using the tools wisely. Happy editing, and thanks again! Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 22:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rfa Spam

Thank you so much for your support on my RFA, which today passed unanimously. I will do my best to make sure that I don't let any of you down. If you ever need any help with anything, feel free to ask me, i'll be happy to. Thanks again--Jac16888 (talk) 17:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking of a double or triple nom, as you me and Paul Gene had been the most active at a collective push to get this one to FA. I think we are just about there. You around much? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:08, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a specific source in mind you can lay your hands for Image:Synapse Illustration2 tweaked.svg on that would be great. I thought I had it at home but I don't, and tomorrow is shaping up to be an arse of a day at work (i.e. may be tricky to chisel out some time to check medical library). If you find it and update it, great, if not I will try to find...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Thanks for your edit there. You comments on the issue of relevance (see recent history) would be appreciated. Katzmik (talk) 09:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1994

Hey wat was wrong with them adding the death of kurt cobain....? he did die on april 5th 1994.... so shudnt he be recognized just like every other famous person....?


Relyt420 (talk) 18:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cobain is already mentioned in 1994#Deaths. Deaths generally don't go in the events section unless they're political assassinations or major disasters in which a lot of people are killed. Cosmic Latte (talk) 18:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider pitching in here Slrubenstein | Talk 15:21, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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FYI

"Instalment" is the standard British spelling. See [1]. No biggie, just letting you know. (For what it's worth, Raul654 (talk · contribs), among others, made the same mistake.) —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 01:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thanks for letting me know. I figured it was a typo, but, as an American who never was fond of Noah Webster's crusade to simplify (de-beautify?) English spelling, I'll be sure to remember that it's not. Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:00, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment on the AFD. I was busy cleaning up the bad writing when you dragged up those sources, making my job to clean things up just that little bit easier. Have a bunch of "thank you"-flowers for the trouble. - Mgm|(talk) 12:18, 18 November 2008 (UTC) [reply]

No problem! Cosmic Latte (talk) 12:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
A great defense. Whole argument--including ending with a concern over a probable WP:DGFA violation--shows you to be a great defender of wikipedia policy. --Firefly322 (talk) 11:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Very much appreciated. Cosmic Latte (talk) 14:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Editor review

I'll try to take a look, but I've been rather busy lately. It might be a few days, though. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 02:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MDD

Please try to help avoid restarting problematic issues on the FAC: I'm aware of the notifications and I know what WP:CANVASS says. If you've been unjustly accused of canvassing, that can be addressed directly with that editor. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:09, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, sorry about that. My intention is certainly not to create any drama this time around! Cosmic Latte (talk) 03:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Thanksgiving!

Happy Thanksgiving!

I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, --Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, A NobodyMy talk 02:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Happy Thanksgiving to you, too! :-) Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:37, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome and thanks! --Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, A NobodyMy talk 03:06, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MDD/Review

Brave of you to put yourself up for it! Don't let yourself be put off from carrying on with MDD. Fainites barley 08:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Primate at FAC

Hello! As a previous reviewer of Primate at FAC it would be great if you could have another look at the article. The FAC has been restarted, and any comments would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Jack (talk) 17:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done! Thanks for letting me know. Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Page size

There is a special tool which shows you page sizes? Would you like to know how to use it? Snowman (talk) 18:49, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'd appreciate that. Cosmic Latte (talk) 18:49, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See here for details. Snowman (talk) 18:51, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'll have a look at it. Cosmic Latte (talk) 19:09, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

award

I hereby award Cosmic Latte this Flaming Joel-wiki for going through wiki-hell for six weeks and coming out the other side...always remember rule numero-uno, don't edit unless you don't mind having your material ruthlessly edited, and keep on smiling. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:38, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hi

Could you drop me an email if you get a chance? You can use the link at my user page. Katzmik (talk) 07:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing. Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! Fainites barleyscribs 08:37, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! :-) Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Did you get my reply? Katzmik (talk) 12:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TalkPag Christmas

Hey why did you revert my new section there??? i didn't delete any other messages!--62.158.69.232 (talk) 13:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because your new section had nothing whatsoever to do with improving the article. Wikipedia isn't a forum for discussing your personal beliefs. Cosmic Latte (talk) 14:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You made what I thought were some constructive comments on the talk page ... can I convince you to look over the project page and consider making appropriate edits? I think that the community would support making it a policy when certain issues are worked through - specifically:

  • clearer explanation of what is the difference between DE and the average (and tolerable and even sometimes desirable) cranky or impassioned editor
  • clearer explanation of how this policy fills a gap not covered by other policies such as CIV, OWN, SPA
  • clearer ideas about enforcement

I hope you will give it some thought and see what improvements you can make, Slrubenstein | Talk 19:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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RfAR

As a note, I've reduced the number of parties in your recent request to yourself, Guido and William M. Connolley. It's unusual to list all the participants in a debate and has led to confusion (also reducing the probability that the appeal will be heard). Please feel free to revert if you disagree with the rationale. Best, Mackensen (talk) 22:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's completely fine. This is my first experience with ArbCom, so I figured it'd be best to err on the side of thoroughness. Cosmic Latte (talk) 20:29, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New heading required

THANKS FOR BRINGING ME UP (YOU WRTE THAT IT HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP--NOT THAT YOU DID IT). I GUESS MY OBSERVATIONS ON *SOME* WIKIPEDIANS HIT HOME WITH YOU. LOVE HWO YOU SAID I HAD ATTACKE *ALL* WIKIPEDIANS. I WILL BE SURE TO INCLUDE YOU, HOWEVER. WORRY NOT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.166.221.159 (talk) 13:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

unitarian greetings

Merry Christmas

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Heather O'Rourke

It is not my intention to keep shooting you down, so I want to explain this—third—reversion. I long since checked all the available online reliable sources I could for the Heather O'Rourke article. Neither the IMDb nor TV.com meet the muster for a reliable source as they're both user-contributed resources, similar in nature to a wiki. I previously brought up "The Memorial Site" to the reliable sources noticeboard and it was consensus that it may be legitimate, but doesn't vet for the information available: too much of the information on the site can be found patently incorrect, and ergo cannot be used as a reliable secondary source for our Wikipedia biography.

As I cannot find either "Heather Michele O’Rourke" or "Heather Michelle O'Rourke" in a suitable Google News or Google Scholar search, I'm only left with web results. While the former has more hits (a plethora being copies of a previous version of the Wikipedia article), the latter is where all of our repeatedly accepted, published, reliable sources are found.

You're right, "Michelle" probably is her middle name, there's just no explicit references for this; The New York Times, Yahoo! Movies, and the Turner Classic Movies database all list this as "Alternate Name" or "Also Credited As" or "AKA" respectively. There's no listing at a suitably reliable source for her full name to include this.

Keep an eye out if you will, I'm not perfect by any means. But either bring it up at the talk page first, or don't get upset if I or somebody else removes/reverts it. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 17:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

About that James Horner edit

How do you do? I feel rather inferior when watching your own user page compared to mine. Anyway, in the James Horner article's last edit summary, you wrote: "again, rm unsourced, original commentary apparently intended to devalue the defense of this composer". Now considering the fact the article states this "Some believe it truly compromises the merits of Horner's music, while others feel it is a minor problem that has been exaggerated, and a common practice generally inclusive of other composers." Doesn't that sound as an unsourced original commentary as well? Of course, I'm a dummy for this kind of thing, so you may know much better about this than I do. Just a slight thought, nothing hostile. Thanks! --Surten (talk) 21:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Surten[reply]

The "some believe" language currently in the article is a bit weasel-wordy, but at least it suggests third-party opinions about Horner specifically. Of course these opinions should be sourced. The content you were adding differs from this in at least two ways. First, it's unclear as to how it relates to anyone's (apart from you own) views of Horner specifically. Even if you were to source the idea, if the source does not specifically mention Horner (in which case you might be able to add something like, "John Doe, however, argues that this defense of Horner's work is flawed because..."), and instead discusses only the general practice of musically "quoting" other composers, then you could be in violation of WP:SYNTH, which prohibits "synthesis of published material which advances a position." The second problem is that, in the spirit of WP:NPOV, we shouldn't be going to great lengths to emphasize criticism over defense (or vice versa, although in the case of living individuals, WP:BLP also comes into play, so we should be especially hesitant to give extra weight to the negative). I hope this helps. Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:57, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. That does help. Poor Mr. Horner, I do like his stuff (except for Troy). Although I was thinking of including OGG files with samples from similar cues by Horner, though I don't know how to convert or upload OGG's. But still, thanks. --Surten (talk) 03:01, 23 January 2009 (UTC)Surten[reply]
I'm a fan of Horner's too, but I have to say I agree with you about Troy. In case you didn't hear the story, Gabriel Yared has composed a grand, rather masterful score for it, but a test audience rejected it as too "old-fashioned" (ironic that an epic score would be rejected as too old-fashioned for an ancient epic!), and Horner was brought in at the last minute. I much prefer The Perfect Storm, Horner's previous collaboration with the same director. Anyway, I don't know much about OGG files, but you might be able to find something useful on a cnet search such as this one. Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Did I hear the story? An old teacher of mine has a CD from a German recording studio with an hour of Yared's original score, and burnt me a CD. It is quite superior to Horner's in several aspects. My personal favorite Horner score is Krull. Thanks again.--Surten (talk) 00:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)Surten[reply]

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Smile!

Thank you muchly! :-) Cosmic Latte (talk) 19:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

3rr

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution.

If you're already familiar with policy, please excuse the template. Tom Harrison Talk 23:07, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template excused. What I am currently engaged in is a discussion on the talk page, which, at this point, appears to have demonstrated that information is being removed due to an inaccurate reading of policy. Feel free to refute. Cosmic Latte (talk) 23:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]