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:OVERLINK applies everywhere, and REPEATLINK deals specifically with the issue of the same link being repeated within an article (which is sometimes acceptable), not the issue of multiple different consecutive links. [[WP:SOB]] does not have any such provision limiting its scope (not that I care for legalistic interpretations of which guideline to apply), and in fact gives very much as an example (quoted above) the kind of thing that you'd usually see in an infobox... [[User:RandomCanadian|RandomCanadian]] ([[User talk:RandomCanadian|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian|contribs]]) 18:31, 26 April 2022 (UTC) |
:OVERLINK applies everywhere, and REPEATLINK deals specifically with the issue of the same link being repeated within an article (which is sometimes acceptable), not the issue of multiple different consecutive links. [[WP:SOB]] does not have any such provision limiting its scope (not that I care for legalistic interpretations of which guideline to apply), and in fact gives very much as an example (quoted above) the kind of thing that you'd usually see in an infobox... [[User:RandomCanadian|RandomCanadian]] ([[User talk:RandomCanadian|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian|contribs]]) 18:31, 26 April 2022 (UTC) |
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Antagonism Towards Einstein
Just watched a video from an academic who claimed that the antagonism towards Einstein was more "open" than what this Article seems to indicate. One, he called Einstein a "fuzzy-haired crackpot" and two he wrote a (presumably negative) poem about Einstein. Came here to see if the text of the poem was included in this Article. The Lede says Tesla "wrote poems" but that's it. Occurs to me that the Article would be dramatically "punched up" if these two interesting facts could be verified, and then included. Going to look for sources to find out if they actually happened, but posting this for posterity in case I fail. Maybe someone else knows this, has a source, and could include this interesting aspect of Tesla.107.195.106.201 (talk) 16:38, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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In Ontario, Canada, the provincial legislature proclaimed July 10th as an annual recognition of his birth. Source: [1] 99.240.117.4 (talk) 21:58, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Nikola Tesla was Croatian inventor, not Serbian Dorian Mihajlovic (talk) 13:08, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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Infobox death place
An edit summary pointed me to the instructions of Template:Infobox person, saying Omit unnecessary or redundant details. New York City, U.S.
Yet, this omits the useful detail that it was in Manhattan as opposed to the other five boroughs. Also, MOS:OVERLINK, which is policy, says don't link NYC because it's a common term. Too common to list without the borough, IMO. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Template instructions are "city"... which Manhattan is not.. Also changing the location description is not fixing overlinking. Per OVERLINK, New York City is not in a context where it would already be clear. Should also be noted that MOS are not policy - minor point. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 18:38, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- A guideline, yes, I misspoke. Unlinking NYC fixes overlinking. NYC is so known that there is no context where it should be linked. Manhattan is larger population-wise than all other cities except for LA, Chicago, and Houston. This "city, state" guidance, which is not at the level of a Wikipedia guideline, does not fit for NYC. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- "Omit unnecessary or redundant details" should be considered jointly with the advice of Wikipedia:The Pope is Catholic (and then the example of Paris is also enlightening). Anyways, listing in which country it is shouldn't be controversial, even if it's obvious, and even if the reader knows it, and it is also commonly done almost on every biography, so this is a case where they template description gives bad (or at least incomplete) advice. Agree with Mobushgu that given the size of New York, being more specific probably doesn't hurt in this case. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:11, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- I agree that we should not overlink in the body of the text, because for things that most people are familiar with, there really is no need for links and it creates a better reading environment. However, in the template, I think links should be made. The template is where the information is gathered, and many people want to get the main information directly here, and for those who don't know NYC, they can access the relevant pages more easily and directly. But, this topic has so many implications that this is just my opinion.
- I agree with New York City or New York, it is easy to understand for Americans and non-Americans alike. MoJieCPD (talk) 05:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- The fact is that those who do want more information can just follow the very logical link chain Manhattan -> New York (the link is literally in the very first sentence). This would also be consistent with established practice as described by WP:SOB;
For geographic places specified with the name of the larger territorial unit following a comma, generally do not link the larger unit. For example, avoid Buffalo, New York, United States or Sydney, New South Wales, Australia; instead use Buffalo, New York, United States or Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
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- The fact is that those who do want more information can just follow the very logical link chain Manhattan -> New York (the link is literally in the very first sentence). This would also be consistent with established practice as described by WP:SOB;
Looks like "New York City, U.S." is where we are at (at least there is no consensus to change it). Actually we should be at "New York City, New York, U.S." (one previous edit) but I don't see anyone there. Please note: MOS:OVERLINK doesn't extend to infoboxes (see MOS:REPEATLINK, next section). "New York City, U.S." falls under "helpful for readers" and "New York City" is going to be more commonly known for the same general readers than "Manhattan". Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 18:11, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- OVERLINK applies everywhere, and REPEATLINK deals specifically with the issue of the same link being repeated within an article (which is sometimes acceptable), not the issue of multiple different consecutive links. WP:SOB does not have any such provision limiting its scope (not that I care for legalistic interpretations of which guideline to apply), and in fact gives very much as an example (quoted above) the kind of thing that you'd usually see in an infobox... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 18:31, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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