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October 30

Iga Świątek

I forget where to fix this, so am asking one of you fine folks to do it.

When I search on mobile for Iga Świątek, the suggested results tell me that she is a football player and boxer. Is this maybe Wiki Data?

Thanks, †dismas†|^(talk) 00:38, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

It was just regular vandalism. Reverted. —Wasell^(T) 🌻🇺🇦 05:34, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

List of NFCC images

I would like more clarity regarding the usage of Wikipedia:Non-free content, specifically multiple logos in list style Wikipedia articles. Examples include Apple worker organizations#United States, most political party lists e.g. List of political parties in the United States which all use multiple fair use images, some of which are available in standalone articles. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 01:56, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

All the ones in List of political parties in the United States that I looked at claim either public domain or a CC licence. The apple article does hae two fair use ones that don't have their own articles. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 07:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

@Shushugah: Non-free content is generally not allowed to be used in stand-alone list articles or embeded lists within other articles per WP:NFLISTS because such non-free use is almost always considered to be WP:DECORATIVE and thus not satisfying non-free content use criterion #1 (WP:FREER) and non-free content use criterion #8 (WP:NFC#CS). There can also be non-free content use criterion #3a and non-free content use criterion #10c issues associated with such types of non-free use because the same logo sometimes ends up being used multiple times in the same article. Instead, simply linking to (either by WP:WIKILINK or WP:HATNOTE) the primary stand-alone articles about the individual entries tends to be considered more than a sufficient alternative to non-free use. Moreover, the use of logos (free or non-free) is, in general, also discourage in lists and tables per MOS:LOGO if the logo's primary function is a sort of "decoration" and not contextual. However, freely licensed or PD content is not subject to the same restrictions as non-free content, and thus you often find such logos used in articles like "List of political parties in the United States". As for the non-free use of logos in articles like "Apple worker organizations", it too is typically not allowed even though the article may not seem like a true list article. Generally, non-free logos are fine to use for primary identification purposes at the top of or in the main infoboxes of stand-alone articles about the entity they represent, but uses in other articles or in other ways tends to be be much harder to justify per WP:NFCCP. Often such logos start out being used in stand-alone articles, but these articles end up subsequently being merged into a parent article for some reason (e.g. lack of notability); since the non-free logo was originally being used in accordance with relevant policy, it often is mistakenly assumed that the justification for that particular non-free use is automatically just as valid for the way the logo is now used after the merge. Of course, this almost never the case, but it's not really something those merging the text content give much thought. Unless there's specific sourced critical commentary related to the logo itself (not what the logo represents), such non-free use is almost never considered OK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

What to do with link that now leads to a spammy site

In the article Upattinas School and Resource Center, there is a link to the former school's website. The link now leads to a spammy site of unknown purpose. Should I remove the link, mark it as dead, or do something else? Thanks! Physeters^✉ 02:45, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Physeters. Look for a current working URL and substitute it if you find one. Do not leave the bad URL, that is clearly dicey. Cullen328 (talk) 02:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Is the original site archived anywhere (Wayback Machine, archive.today, etc)? If so then for any references that use it, if the article is using a Citation Style 1/2 template set the |archive-url= parameter to the archive URL, |archive-date= to the date the site was archived, and set |url-status= to "usurped" or "unfit". If the article is not using a CS1/2 citation template, then you may want to either convert the article to that citation style (if there's only a couple of references), or use the {{webarchive}} template.

If the URL is in the Infobox or the external links though, I'd probably just remove it. Sideswipe9th (talk) 02:52, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

@Sideswipe9th, the url is in the infobox, but has but the site it links to has been extensively archived. Should I not insert an archive link and just fake the original's appearance? Physeters^✉ 02:58, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

WP:ELDEAD suggests that it can be acceptable to use an archive link in the external links section, and I'd probably extend that to cover the website parameter in an infobox. So yeah, I think that'd be OK. Just make sure to add in your edit summary why you're doing this so that other editors know why the links in the article have changed. Sideswipe9th (talk) 03:10, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Great, Thanks! Physeters^✉ 03:12, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Source replier and topic adder isn't really working

I have discussion tools enabled. Six days ago I added User:Mr.Z-man/badimages.js to my common.js. Ever since then I"ve been having issues with discussion tools' source mode like being unable to enter after clicking on the text box until I switch to visual and back again or click on mention and delete the @, being unable to do newlines unless I just use <br>, etc. Is that script really causing all these issues? If so, which part of it? Aaron Liu (talk) 14:52, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

@Aaron Liu You seem to have commented about the script at User_talk:Mr.Z-man/badimages, which is probably the best venue for sorting this out. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:58, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull: @Mr.Z-man hasn’t edited in over 2 years, so a fix from him is likely not coming. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 03:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

My name is being used in appropriate information

I am reporting the page "Val Kalende." 209.6.155.52 (talk) 15:35, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Val Kalende ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 15:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid we'll need a bit more information that just "the page is defamatory". Is there inaccurate information in the article, or do you have another complaint? (As an aside, using words like "defamation" is not a good idea here as it could be interpreted as a legal threat, which are not allowed on Wikipedia.) ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 15:47, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

The article Val Kalende seems to be passably well written. See WP:AUTOPROB if there are specific concerns.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:49, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Contribution problem

I just sent a contribution to Wikipedia. However, when I got to the employer box, I entered N/A. As I clicked on the send box, I saw at the last minute that your checking mechanism changed that to the name of some company. I do not care, you still get my shekels. However, depending on how the back end is structured, that company will probably not match my contribution. Bottom line, it annoyed me, so I am mentioning it. Beyond that, it is unlikely to change the fate of nations. AkivaPI (talk) 17:25, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi, us on the English Wikipedia have nothing to do with the donation process, which is handled by the Wikimedia Foundation. Questions about donations should be sent to donate@wikimedia.org. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 18:04, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm rather puzzled by this as the Wikipedia Foundation should not be requesting personal information like that. I just filled out the form myself and there was no request for the name of my employer. Are you sure this was the genuine form? (You might also be interested to read about Wikipedia finances if you haven't already.) Shantavira|^{feed me} 20:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Jahrbuch zur Liberalismus-Forschung

Should I be able to access Jahrbuch zur Liberalismus-Forschung, specifically an article in 28. Jahrgang 2016, via the Wikipedia Library? Searching the Library 2 volumes appear in the results list but not 28 and not the article.

Is there a more appropriate place to post the issue? Mcljlm (talk) 17:45, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Mcljlm, an internet search suggests that Jahrbuch zur Liberalismus-Forschung is available via Nomos. I accessed Nomos via Wikipedia Library, searched for Jahrbuch zur Liberalismus-Forschung, filtered for 2016 and was able to access the issue. TSventon (talk) 20:51, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks TSventon. I'm now reading the article. 02:40, 31 October 2022 (UTC) Mcljlm (talk) 02:40, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

October 31

Any guideline or convention for archiving Talk subpages?

Do we have a guideline or suggestion for the archival of Talk subpages? Talk subpages are used from time to time for a number of things; see for example, Talk:The Buddha/Tertiary sources, which was created in connection with the recently closed RM on the Talk page. I have two concerns:

• should we archive the subpage when the RM is archived? It may have some additional value on its own, beyond the topic of the RM.
• if we do archive it with the RM discussion, what would be the PAGENAME? "Talk:The Budda/Archive nn/Tertiary sources"?

My question is actually about the general case, not just about the one illustration above; I'm wondering if we have guidance on what to do about Talk subpages in general. I can't find anything about this at the relevant Help or project pages about this. This is hardly the only Talk subpage, and they are not all used for the same kind of thing, so probably more examples would be helpful; I don't have any handy at the moment, but probably a clever advanced search or maybe a Petscan could find some more. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 01:34, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

I think if the subpage isn't being actively edited, there's no need to archive it; closing it should be enough. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Is paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org still monitored?

I'm trying to deal with a complex case of suspected WP:UPE that involves private information. Is paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org still monitored? Or would it be better to contact a functionary/ArbCom directly? Thanks for the help! —Ganesha811 (talk) 04:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@Ganesha811 Advice at WP:PAID#Reporting undisclosed paid editors suggests that email address is still monitored. However, the section also gives alternative ways to proceed. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:02, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Article that is clearly written by the person AND is total self promotion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Siraj_Akbar 2603:8000:A445:2D7A:B141:D89B:139F:26EA (talk) 05:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

so fix it! lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 07:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

stc Telecom Company Kuwait - Page Creation

Dear Team,

We are the Digital Team from stc telecom company Kuwait. We would like to know what is process & procedures to create a wikipedia page for our company. Please do let us know.

Thank you, regards, 94.128.5.14 (talk) 06:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for asking. The simple if probably unwelcome advice is: "Don't". But if you're intent on an article, please digest Wikipedia:Ownership of content, Help:Your first article, Wikipedia:Reliable sources, Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure, Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Sounds like a lot? Yes, it is! So again, my advice is: "Don't". -- Hoary (talk) 09:38, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Changing photo

Hey, I need some help changing the main photo on Stefflon Don's page. I've tried uploading and cannot continue onto the next stage of the upload. Can anyone help me change it if I provide the photo?

Thanks in advance! AbirH94 (talk) 11:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@AbirH94 I agree that the current photo on Stefflon Don's article is poor as the microphone obscures her face. You should be able to upload a new photograph to Wikimedia Commons using the wizard at commons:Special:UploadWizard and following the instructions. Is that what you tried? Note that you must personally have taken the photo with your own camera and hence be able as copyright holder, to release it with a suitable Creative Commons license. If you run in to problems, please specify in detail what they are. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:11, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Hey, I work with Steff's management team and wanted to update it using one of the photo's we own. I tried going the route you suggested but it still doesn't seem to let me. Is there any way you can do this for me please?

Thanks in advance AbirH94 (talk) 10:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@AbirH94 Matters get more complicated if you "work with Steff's management team", since you have a conflict of interest and may need to make a paid editing disclosure. I don't know what you mean by "photo we own", since possession has nothing to do with who owns the copyright, which is all that Wikipedia is concerned with. I suggest you look at the Commons email template page for instructions on how to donate copyright material. It is at Commons:Commons:Email_templates. However, the most straightforward thing to do is as I have already advised, which is for you, AbirH94, to take a new picture with your own phone/camera and upload it as your own work, which it will be in that case. If you need further advice, I suggest you ask directly at Wikimedia Commons, who have their own Help Desk at Commons:Commons:Help_desk. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@AbirH94 I forgot to say that one of the reasons you may have been having problems at Commons is that only autoconfirmed accounts can make uploads. For that, your account must be over 4 days old and have made at least 10 edits. You are near that threshold and can reach it by placing some information on your User page, for example. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

How do I delete an account?

A little background information: On October 10th or so, I made this account at my school since I liked Wikipedia and wanted to contribute. However, I noticed that the school laptop had some settings on it that tracked browser activity and was afraid that my account didn't feel secure. So a few days later, I made User:Serenbliss, for at-home use in accordance with the alternate account policy. Looking back, I was overreacting a bit and didn't really need two accounts. I also ended up making nearly no mainspace edits with that account (the 70-something edits are mainly from an excessively long talkpage discussion). So, is it possible to delete that account? If so, how would I go about doing it?

Any help is much appreciated. - Coolman2917 (talk) 11:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

It isn't possible to delete an account. However, I'd be happy to block it if you want - you'll need to log into that account and post a request from that account. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Of course, I'll log into it as soon as I get home. Coolman2917 (talk) 11:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

The account can't be deleted, as the information is needed for attribution, but you can retire if you wish. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move

I find the page for requested moves too complicated and so I'm asking someone here to do it for me: I want Kobe Jones (American football) to be requested to be moved to Kobe Jones with the following reason: "It makes more sense to have the American football player, whose name is spelled that way, to be the topic at "Kobe Jones," considering that the soccer player (Cobi Jones) doesn't appear to have ever had his name spelled that way." Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Whilst creating an RM is usually the right move, it seems unlikely that this would be a disputed move as the name itself is a natural disambig and the hatnote should be enough to sort out the disambig issues. I'm happy to just move this. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

HotCat feature

Does anybody find their computers or other devices go slow when using the HotCat for changing/adding/deleting categories or is that just normal for this feature? SarahTHunter (talk) 19:06, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Request of an admin

Could an admin please delete the redirect Jalen Dalton so I could move my draft to mainspace? Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Deleted. Please go ahead, BeanieFan11. -- Hoary (talk) 00:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Mysterious cite journal error on article

I was cleaning up Muhammad Zahid Wakhshi, and when I previewed it it showed the familiar cite error, which doesn't show you in red which cite is wrong or what's missing. In this case, it's a cite journal error, and none of the cites appear to be cite journal. Anyone know what's going on? TechnoTalk (talk) 21:42, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@TechnoTalk, {{cite document}} doesn't actually exist - it's a redirect to {{cite journal}}. That's likely the one throwing errors. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @199.208.172.3:. That was it. And Trappist the Monk fixed it. TechnoTalk (talk) 02:36, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

which edit wrote that

Is there any way of finding which revision added a given sentence of an article? checking every edit one by one would eventually work but... y'know Mignof (talk | contribs) 22:39, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Mignof, on the page history, under external tools, select "Find addition/removal" ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

November 1

Can I use these sources?

Been working on an article about a subject expert and just wanted to know if I could these sources [1] [2] [3] Thanks. ✠ Rejoy2003 ✠ (contact) 02:57, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

No, no, and no. The first is selling the guys book, the second is his own website, and the third is a press release. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:07, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

AndyTheGrump I had a hunch for it that those weren't much reliable as well, ngl. Also here's WP:ELOFFICIAL, it states that When an official website is used as a source to verify a self-published statement in the article text, it should be formatted like any other reference used in the article. ✠ Rejoy2003 ✠ (contact) 03:40, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

The implication of your question, whether you intended it or not, is "Can I use these sources to prove notability?". Anything the subject or their surrogates control is useless for that purpose (and, by extension, for biographical claims that can sensibly be challenged). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 04:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Jéské Couriano Why would I ask such a question when the person is already notable? I simply asked about those references to use them as sources. Not to prove notability. That's completely a different thing and irrelevant of the discussion. ✠ Rejoy2003 ✠ (contact) 04:28, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

" . . . when the person is already notable?" – Since you yourself created the article directly in Article space only three days ago and are almost the sole editor, that may still be under question.

"Not to prove notability." – That was not evident in your original query, and is the more usual reason for such enquiries, so it was a reasonable assumption.

Even in terms of facts rather than notability, admissibility of subject-related sources is heavily dependent on what the sources are to be used for, so in the absence of exact details ("Use source A to verify fact X?") the query is unaswerable.

Helpdesk respondents are volunteers donating their time to provide advice to editors on this collaborative project called Wikipedia. Responding to their advice with an apparently combative attitude, and appearing to be trying to wikilawyer (even if that was not your intention), is not likely to encourage them to help you. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.213.189.208 (talk) 11:26, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks to Rejoy2003 for the (lack of) courtesy ping around this. For more context about the sourcing question, I removed these sources [4]. They were being used to source pretty promotional text like "He is also a popular panelist on TV and web shows hosted mainly in India and globally" and "... Goa Chronicle is one of the prominent globally recognised news portals ..." Also statements like "In 2021, it got a Rs 100 crore valuation" were sourced to one of the sites, which doesn't mention anything around valuation. These statements were removed [5], then added back with primary sources that sometimes didn't actually support the material. I would strongly encourage Rejoy2003 to take a much closer look at the sources they are using. There are still a fair number of primary sources in the article, including press releases disguised as churnalism (tag added). They need to take a more skeptical view of sources, looking at the byline especially to see if it's from a press release agency. See [6], [7], [8] - all of these are from NewsVoir which is a press release agency. This took 20 seconds of research. If a press release is the only thing supporting a statement, it needs to be seriously questioned if it should remain in the article. Ravensfire (talk) 14:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Collaboration

I make an edit to a page, and another user disagrees with my edit. They normally revert it pretty quickly, citing WP:UNDUE, WP:NPOV, or something else. I am prompted by them to establish consensus on the talk page. When I post on the talk page and ping this user, I get no response, and therefore, I cannot establish consensus with the one person who disagrees. After getting no response, guidelines, or advice to reach consensus, I invite the user to make a version of my edit that fits their standards. I am then told that the WP:ONUS is on the editor trying to establish consensus. This is a never-ending loop and it has become very frustrating. I want to collaborate with this user, rather than getting reverted, sent to the talk page, and then getting ignored. It's hard to establish consensus with someone who is not willing to add anything to the main page or tweak anything that is added to the main page. If possible, I would like to keep the other user out of this, so I kindly ask you not to dig into my history. I'm just looking for advice on how to collaborate with a user like this. GeorgeBailey (talk) 03:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@GeorgeBailey: If they don’t respond to a good faith effort to start a discussion on the talk page, you’re welcome to revert to change back to your original version. If they revert again, you can revert them and start another discussion. Just don’t revert more than three times in 24 hours. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 03:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Reference in an article

My article is listed as a reference but the hyperlink has been replaced by another. How can I update the hyperlink Michael L Hays (talk) 03:35, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@michael l hays: change the |url= parameter. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 04:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Fred Catero

Fred just died. His widow and I are trying to update his entry. Every time I edit the entry, I get messages from other wiki "editors" saying that my entries have been removed and the old outdated entry restored. Please someone help me ! Freds Friends (talk) 03:35, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

We need a source to confirm his passing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 04:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/legacyremembers/fred-catero-obituary?id=36903207 Freds Friends (talk) 04:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Please restore the updates, discography, references and timeline. This is all causing his widow great stress. Thank you. DR Freds Friends (talk) 04:10, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@freds friends: no, as it is unsourced and not written for an encyclopedia. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 04:31, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Fred Catero

The article was edited to include the information about the subject's death on October 10 and is sourced to an obituary. Unfortunately the more recent information that Freds Friends has attempted to add is extremely verbose, written in a very non-encyclopedic style, and is entirely unsourced (a list of books was added, but none are about the subject and there is no clue as to how each book supports the added information). Freds Friends, I am sorry about the passing of your friend, but information on Wikipedia must be written in accordance with our Manual of Style, and most importantly, every piece of information added must be verifiable; that is, published in a reliable source. You added a vast amount of information without the slightest hint of where that information came from. CodeTalker (talk) 06:46, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Query regarding photo upload

I want to upload IIM Nagpur photo on its Wikipedia page. Have been making efforts to do so multiple times. However, I have encountered problems uploading the photos. Please guide. Thank you. Communication office (talk) 06:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Communication office Instructions for uploads are at WP:UPIMAGE, but new accounts cannot upload images, please go to Files For Upload. 331dot (talk) 06:25, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Communication office, I'm guessing that you are employed by IIM Nagpur, in their communications office. Please note that:

1. Account names that suggest that they are shared or that they represent some organisation, are forbidden. Please abandon this acount, and create a new one that is personal to you. You do not need to use your real name (I do, but many editors don't), and you may show your affiliation if you wish (eg "Sam at IIS Comms" - that's just an example).
2. If you are in any way employed by IIS and intend to edit articles connected with IIS - even just adding a photo - you must make a formal declaration of your status as a Paid editor - see that link for details.
3. As a paid editor, you should not normally edit an article about your employer directly, but instead should make Edit requests on the article's talk page.
4. Please be aware that IIM Nagpur is not "its article": it is "Wikipedia's article about it". This might seem trivial, but it is important. IIM does not own or control the article, and the article should be a summary of what indepedent sources have published aboout the institute, not what the institute says or wants to say.
5. Before uploading the image, please read the policy on image use. Unless the copyright owner (who will be the photographer unless they have legally granted it to somebody else) licenses the image under CC-BY-SA or similar (which will grant anybody in the world permission to copy or alter the image), it may not be used on Wikipedia.

There is a lot to read in what I have just said: I'm afraid that it inevitable. Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia that anybody can edit, but that does not mean that it is necessarily easy and straightforward, especially for those who may not understand how important it is that Wikipedia be neutral and free from Promotion. ColinFine (talk) 10:26, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Ed Kemper

I made a comment before I signed in, and now my ip address is published... Aud28 (talk) 06:40, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Please go to WP:OVERSIGHT to request that it be suppressed. 331dot (talk) 06:41, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

About Translating Istinye University page.

Hello. I want to add language option (english) for İstinye University's page (https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0stinye_%C3%9Cniversitesi), but i cant because of my account's permission. What can i do about that? Thank you in advance. İstinye Üniversitesi (talk) 08:48, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@İstinye Üniversitesi: create a draft and submit it when you’re done. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 08:54, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello, İstinye Üniversitesi. I'm afraid there are several things that you do not understand about Wikipedia.

What you are trying to do is not "add a language option for Istinye University's page", but to write an article on English Wikipedia about that University. You may create such an article by translating one from the Turkish Wikipedia, but it must still meet all of English Wikipedia's policies. Most particularly, it must be properly referenced according to English Wikipedia's policies, which may be more restrictive than Turkish Wikipedia's. See WP:Translation for more information.

Secondly, your user name suggests that 1) it is a shared account and 2) that it is editing on behalf of the institution. Both of these are forbidden. Please read the detailed reply I gave to another editor two items above on this page, most of which is also relevant to you. ColinFine (talk) 10:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Inquiry: Would this be WP:OR?

There's a short film with an article here called Ida Makes A Movie. The problem is that I cannot find a proper source for its airdate, nor can I find the confirmed airdate at all. The date commonly cited for years (September 12, 1979) has never been verified. An official book about the show claims September 20, 1980, but I cannot find any evidence of the film having aired on that date in all the newspaper archive sites I have access to. But that's not the point of this question. I was doing research on Newspapers.com I found an article from Tuesday, December 11, 1979 that claimed it aired "on Saturday", which would make it December 8, 1979. Would it be considered WP:OR to use this source because it doesn't directly state the date and it had to be estimated? Just to play it safe I've removed any date from the page and replaced it with a note. ToQ100gou (talk) 10:18, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

In my view, calculating Dec 8 from the source's date and statement boils down to simple arithmetic, which does not count as OR, but others may differ. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.213.189.208 (talk) 11:33, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@ToQ100gou WP:CALC specifically says that sort of inference is fine. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:30, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@User:Michael D. Turnbull Thanks, just had to be sure. ToQ100gou (talk) 13:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

File:20th Century Studios.svg

File:TCFlogo.png was accepted on Commons, so File:20th Century Studios.svg should be moved there with the same license. See also c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:TCFlogo.png. Thanks, Yann (talk) 11:18, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and made a BOLD edit to File:20th Century Studios.svg, as it's basically the same file as File:TCFlogo.png except it says Studios instead of "Fox", marking it as suitable for commons. (even if it isn't expired copyright, it's still below the threshold of originality since the 2 files are practically identical save for one word) ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

There's also a ™ in the corner of the Studios image but that's definitely not enough to make it above the threshold of originality, just means it can be marked as trademarked ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:21, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Comptox database has moved

Correction - not a wikipedia problem

In a previous version of this post I reported problems accessing links to EPA's comptox database.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompTox_Chemicals_Dashboard

Turns out this is a problem with accessing that database from Android. This is clearly not a wikipedia problem. Someone more knowledgeable may see something to do about it. If so - great ! - it's beyond my expertise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ctmidgley (talk • contribs) 12:11, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

The database seems to be inaccessible, not just from Android. Perhaps we can see whether the problem is temporary or permanent? - David Biddulph (talk) 12:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm investigating. The problem seems genuine and is either their servers or something similar to a Wikidata issue mentioned at the foot of wikidata:Property talk:P3117), which was indeed because they had altered their access URLs. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@Ctmidgley All our links, including the DTXSID are now working correctly again. It seems to have been a temporary glitch at the EPA's end. Report back, please, if you continue to see problems. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

DOI not working

I am trying to add this source to TRAPPIST-1 but the cite template dropdowns don't recognize the DOI Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

The DOI "10.3847/PSJ/ac68e6" works for me when I enter it in {{doi}}. Have you tried entering a {{cite journal}} template in the source editor, filling in the fields manually? Did you perhaps mistakenly include "/pdf" when you tried using the dropdown? Deor (talk) 14:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus I'd recommend the Wikipedia:Citation expander gadget, which converts doi directly into cite journals or cite books. It gives Schlichting, Hilke E.; Young, Edward D. (2022). "Chemical Equilibrium between Cores, Mantles, and Atmospheres of Super-Earths and Sub-Neptunes and Implications for Their Compositions, Interiors, and Evolution". The Planetary Science Journal. 3 (5): 127. arXiv:2107.10405. Bibcode:2022PSJ.....3..127S. doi:10.3847/PSJ/ac68e6. S2CID 236171388.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link) for that doi. Note that the /pdf bit isn't part of the doi. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:07, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Seems like it works now. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

category sort key questions.

Over the years, I've tried to check that when an article with "List of" in its name is in a category that starts with "Lists of" there should always be a sort key. For example, List of Gamma Sigma Sigma chapters in Category:Lists of chapters of United States student societies by society. Is there any way to do a query looking for entries that don't?

Also, is there any way in general to include the sort key when viewing a Category? (This would be helpful in diagnosing entries in categories like Category:Pages using infobox organization with unknown parameters.Naraht (talk) 12:48, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

This search finds about 19250 'List of ...' articles that have [[Category:Lists of ...]] without sort keys.

This is the same search constrained to Category:Lists of chapters of United States student societies by society. It finds about 70 articles.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:52, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

User:PrimeHunter/Sortkeys.js produces Sort keys on Category:Pages using infobox organization with unknown parameters. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Search through all edit histories for profanity

Looking at the UCoC toxicity issue, and I wanted to see how often certain phrases were used. Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 14:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Please close. It has to a query. Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 14:49, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I think this would need to be a database dump. If you have the disk space to hold it, and the software to comb through the full database and extract certain text strings, Wikipedia:Database download has the information you need. --Jayron32 15:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank-you for the reply. Ok - that's really really ..... really ... big. (Although I don't know what the numbers are in terms of of https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/latest/ Which of the files listed would most likely be the files for article talk, and article revision comments ? Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 16:10, 1 November 2022 (UTC) Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 16:12, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Jelp

I wwas looking at a page and I think i got hacked necauwd it took me to this code thing and then this alphabet popped up and it made a sound and started typing everything i said. What happened to wikipedia now its on the page 100.42.252.205 (talk) 19:18, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

What kind of device are you using? ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 19:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Phone 100.42.252.205 (talk) 19:23, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

This has also been asked at the teahouse. Please do not ask in multiple locations as it may lead to confusing advice. The weird edits have been reverted. Eagleash (talk) 19:25, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you i dont know what was happening at the time that whole editing poopped up when i tried to click read. Sorty for the confision 100.42.252.205 (talk) 19:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Screenshot of edit source window in Samsung Note 8

Did it look something like this? If so, you weren't hacked, you just hit the edit source button, probably by mistake. Misclicks are easy on a phone. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Yes it did 100.42.252.205 (talk) 20:05, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

They probably also hit that microphone button which enables speech to text. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:10, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Jim Leishman non sports background

I worked with Jim in Cowdenbeath Jobcentre in the late 70s while he was trying to establish his post player carrier in football. I have many fond recollections of how he worked with Jobseekers/Benefit claimants given that most of the local community knew him.

what I don’t know is if this is worth adding to Wikipedia ?

Ann 2A00:23C5:5402:C501:B584:F986:8FBC:8AD3 (talk) 20:33, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Your personal recollections cannot be added to the article. If you can find the information in a published reliable source then it can be added. RudolfRed (talk) 20:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Not unless it got significant press coverage. Your personal recollections do not constitute reliable sources as Wikipedia defines them. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Say something happens to you and you're rendered comatose, dead, or otherwise completely unable to communicate. How are we supposed to verify your recollection then? And this isn't even getting into the fact that memories can play tricks on us.... —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 00:10, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Is there a guideline on avoiding middle names/initials for disambuguation?

I thought there was a guideline saying that middle initial or middle names should not be used for disambiguation, unless the person is commonly known with that middle initial (like Michael J. Fox). I can't find anything at WP:DAB or MOS:DAB, but I am sure I have read it in the past. Does such a guideline still exist? Specifically, I would like to rename John G. Gorman (also under John Gorman) and it would be nice to site a guideline. Adpete (talk) 23:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Never mind, I found it at WP:MIDDLENAME: "Adding given names, or their abbreviations, merely for disambiguation purposes (if that format of the name is not commonly used to refer to the person) is not advised.". Adpete (talk) 23:44, 1 November 2022 (UTC)