Wikipedia:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement

WikiProject: Latter Day Saint movement (edit or discuss this box) Active discussions:    Creation of subject-specific notability guidelines (SNG) Requested articles:    Now Let Us Rejoice: Organ Hymns for the Sabbath • Showtime! Music of Broadway and Hollywood • Mack Wilberg: Requiem and Other Choral Works Monitor articles:    Check recent changes and article alerts for improvements, vandalism, and other changes. Other things to do:    Work on Latter Day Saint movement stubs • Upload temple pictures (with permission) for the list of temples • Volunteer with the Collaboration of the Month Finding articles:    List of Latter Day Saint movement topics • Category:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement articles • Category:Latter Day Saint movement • Category:Latter Day Saint denominations • Category:Mormonism Featured content:    See recognized content. Portal:    Portal:Latter Day Saint movement

Scope

This is a WikiProject on elements of the Latter Day Saint movement, Mormonism, Latter Day Saint history, doctrine, practices, and other cultural effects inspired by Joseph Smith, Jr..

See also: List_of_articles_about_Mormonism

This project is closely related to Wikipedia:WikiProject Utah

Project Style Guidelines

See:

• Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Latter Day Saints)
• Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Latter Day Saints)
• Standards for Temples

Some quick points to remember:

• Articles wholly pertaining to the Latter Day Saint movement should be parenthesized "(Latter Day Saints)", unless the article name is unambiguous without the parenthetical.
• Articles should not be limited to a single Latter Day Saint denomination, unless including the entire Latter Day Saint movement is impractical or awkward. For example, instead of "Restoration (Community of Christ)" or "Restoration (LDS Church)", you would call the article Restoration (Latter Day Saints).
• In article names, references to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints should capitalize the initial The and include a hyphen and a lower-case "d".
• In general, use the term Mormon or its derivatives only when referring to people or denominations with historical ties to Utah-based The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
• Deadlinks are discouraged as they tend to attract POV material on religious subjects.
• Apply the {{LDS-stub}} boilerplate message at the end of stubs.

Timeline

There's a timeline based on LDS (1850s-on) and Mormonism (centuries and 1820s-1840s) in general. For specific dates (eg, June 1, 1944) you should link normally. You should also show a link to the timeline somewhere on the page (probably in "see also" or in See ... bits) as appropriate. You can start here to see the timeline: 19th century (Mormonism).

Templates

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement/Templates for more detail on the use and purpose of these templates.

• {{LDSWelcome}} - welcome new users
• {{LDSWelcomeNPOV}} - welcome new users (and let them know you had to revert per NPOV)
• {{LDSproject}} - designates an article as part of the WikiProject
• {{LDS}} - Series of Info on Latter Day Saint Movement
• {{LDSInfobox}} - Infobox for prophets of The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS
• {{Joseph Smith, Jr.}} - Navigation for articles on Joseph Smith life/teachings/etc
  • {{JSJ navfooter}} - Navigation for biographical articles on Joseph Smith
  • {{LDSInfobox/JS}} - Infobox for Joseph Smith only
• {{Infobox LDS Temple}} - Infobox for use with The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS temples
• {{LDS-stub}} - LDS stubs
• {{lds}} - formats scripture references and links to http://scriptures.lds.org
• {{LDSTaskBox}} - the task box above

Requests for comment and Polls

Requests for comment

• New article proposal covering the following topics: Intelligences, our Spirit "body," Holy Ghost, Light of Christ, and consequential teachings. Request by --Trödel 19:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
• Jesus in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - cookiecaper (talk / contribs) 20:32, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Criticism of Mormonism - Took a shot at removing some POV and copyediting the first half of the article to make it more concise and encyclopedic. Would appreciate outside input. Tijuana Brass^¡Épa!-E@ 08:22, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
• Extermination Order -- this article is missing references. We need more the assistance of other editors to review, edit, and add references. Storm Rider ^(talk) 09:33, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
• Category:Religious organizations formerly tolerant of polygamy - Lamest. Category. Ever. --24.208.168.230 02:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
• User talk:Til Eulenspiegel. After one editor called the LDS (Mormon) Church "a minority extremist group" and insignificant, when I complained, an administrator who has himself expressed like sentiments about the notability of Mormons warned me, not him, for complaining. He then moved my complaints to my own talk page, and has just now told me that there is no higher authority than him who even cares, along with a slue of other unjustified accusations against me, when I haven't even done anything wrong whatsoever. Please see my talkpage! Til Eulenspiegel 15:46, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Polls

Polls are used to create guidelines for this WikiProject and its corresponding articles by consensus of the contributors.

Vote on current issues at the Poll page.

If there is an issue you would like brought up, use the talk page to discuss it.

Departments

• Assessment - the assessment unit.

To do

• Place the {{LDSproject}} banner on all relevant articles.
• Place all relevant articles on the list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement/Articles by category.
• Check recent changes for recent improvements, vandalism, and other changes.
• Create a navigational template for articles relating to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Coordinate this effort with {{LDS movement}} so that they work together for navigational purposes and do not compete. See User:NThurston/sandbox/test for a preliminary effort.

Recognized content

Featured articles

• Early life of Joseph Smith, Jr.
• Mormon handcart pioneers

Featured lists

• List of temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Articles in Progress

Besides the work below, there are dozens of LDS stubs that need to be filled out. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement/Articles needed and Wikipedia:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement/Requested stubs.

To prevent duplication of effort, if you are working on an open task, PLEASE sign your name beneath the article's listing below, preferably with some sort of comment, so we know who is working on what, and what still needs to be done.

Once the task you have been working on is complete, please remove it from this list, and from {{Template:LDSinfobox}}.

Please put NEW requests at the BOTTOM of their respective list.

Featured content nominations

• List of temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints needs comments at nomination for featured status

For Peer Review

• Heavenly Mother - --Trödel - Rewrote to make it clear that it is not official doctrine. Needs references. --Trödel 16:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Restoration Branches - still kind of working on this. I might also contribute some articles on organizations within the Restoration Branch movement and maybe some wikinews on the Conference of Restoration Branches meeting in April. --NERD42  EMAIL  TALK  H2G2  UNCYC  NEWS  01:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
• Common Latter-day Saint perceptions This still needs major help!!! Tom Haws 22:10, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
• Emma Hale Smith - Listed for collaboration over a year ago - looks tremendously better, but I would like to run it through Peer Review before we let it go from this page. --Trevdna 15:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
• United Order: Some changes have been made, including classification of the system as Christian communism. I'm not sure that's entirely appropriate, but I don't know all that much about it, so some other people need to go over this. cookiecaper (talk / contribs) 16:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
• William Clayton (Mormon Pioneer): recently expanded. Comments welcome. WBardwin 22:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
• Daniel Webster Jones: Created first draft, Ryan Reeder 22:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
• Valeen Tippetts Avery: expanded existing stub due to historian's death. WBardwin 06:14, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
• Thomas L. Kane: New article, needs another eye please. WBardwin 19:38, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Portrayals of Mormons in popular media 15:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
• Temple Square - An important article, but short. I need input on anything that can be done to improve the article. --Lethargy 23:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
• Life of Joseph Smith, Jr. from 1827 to 1830 — it's essentially complete, and needs some editing and input by people other than me. COGDEN 04:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
• Haun's Mill massacre I've added added more material and citations. Needs review / editing by others.74s181 13:42, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
• Mormonism Unvailed: I created a stub from an existing red link on the Salamander Letter page...and kept writing. I'm continuing to work on this, but would welcome input from other editors. So far, it's driving Wiki proofreaders nuts as they attempt to correct the misspelling of "unveiled" in the title.:-) Bochica 05:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Limited Geography Model (Book of Mormon): This page was created as the result of discussion about the reorganization of the Archaeology and the Book of Mormon page. Still working on this one as well, but would appreciate it if others could take a look at it. Bochica 05:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Zelph: Expanded to full article with citations. Bochica 17:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
• Studies of the Book of Mormon: Created article. Bochica 17:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
• Joseph Smith: The Making of a Prophet: Expanded stub to full article. Bochica 17:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
• Warren Parrish: Expanded to full article with citations. Bochica 05:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
• Perfection (Latter Day Saints) A discussion of how Faith, Works, and Grace form a cycle leading to Perfection. Intended as a 'spinout' article for other LDS articles that discuss Faith, Works, Grace or Perfection and are too long, I've already moved some material from the Mormonism and Christianity article. Review, comments, suggestions, enhancements are welcome, but I hope to keep confrontation / comparison to mainstream Christian beliefs on these topics out of this article, such discussion belongs in the M&C article. 74s181 11:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
• Revelation (Latter Day Saints) A discussion of the different kinds of revelation and how they are supposed to work within the LDS church. It is CoJCoLDS specific, cites GAs, but that is only because I don't know how other LDS movement churches are different. Still somewhat in progress but review, comments, suggestions, enhancements are welcome, note that I hope to keep confrontation / comparison to mainstream Christian beliefs out of this article, such discussion belongs in the M&C article. I've already added links to several other LDS movement articles, borrowed some material from the LDS section of the Revelation article. Eventually will move some material from the hugely bloated Mormonism and Christianity article, but not until I know this new article isn't going to get deleted. 74s181 20:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
• Mountain Meadows Massacre I am not part of this project, but in anticipation of the movie and interest in that page, I have made a number of suggestions for improvement. (The "number" is precisely 35.) I think the article should be put in good order before the movie is out because once the movie hits the streets, there will be a huge interest in learning more -- so the article should be comprehensive - even more than it currently is, but also accurate and very strongly NPOV. There will also be a great deal of interest in "editing" the article based upon the "facts" in the movie, so it ought to be in good shape before then and then some degree of blocking should be put on it for a few weeks. --Blue Tie 23:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Create/Collaborate

• Second Coming (Mormonism) - Not much in the LDS article, I think it deserves some attention (maybe it's just me:))The Scurvy Eye 01:21, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll try to get this thing started sometime next week (I'll get it done, no worry)-The Scurvy Eye 19:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Maybe Eschatology (Mormonism) would be a better title? CaliforniaKid 03:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

What the heck does that mean? I don't think it would be a better title because nobody would understand it. --Pahoran513 03:11, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Eschatology is the study of the end times or last things. It encompasses not only the second coming, but also any beliefs about antichrist, tribulation, rapture, resurrection, new creation, etc. I suggest it because while the second coming is a worthy topic, I think these other things are worthy topics also. You could make Second Coming (Mormonism) a redirect page that points to Eschatology (Mormonism). But it's just a suggestion, and I realize that Latter-day Saints often try to avoid technical theological terminology. CaliforniaKid 03:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed that the Eschatology article contains a section on Mormonism. Perhaps this could serve as a precedent, and rather than creating a new page, we could add to the Second Coming article a subsection on the doctrine's form, role, and function in Mormonism. CaliforniaKid 03:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

• I've recently done quite a bit of research concerning the 1826 "trial" of Joseph Smith, Jr. This is mentioned in Early life of Joseph Smith, Jr., but there is much detail not included. Sound like a worthy endeavor? uriah923^(talk) 17:13, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Sounds worthy to me. CaliforniaKid 03:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

• Mormon Trail (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) was just expanded by an editor, but much of the material seems to concern the early "chruch" [sic] rather than the trail per se. There are also POV problems, not to mention the grammar and spelling mistakes. -Will Beback 08:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I recently reverted/removed this LDS history material as it was not not directly applicable to the article as presently constituted. But the article is very brief and quite incomplete. I hope to work on it in the next few months, and would love help. WBardwin 05:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Expand

• Hyrum Smith - Seems a little short for his importance. Could use some cleanup as well. Tijuana Brass 03:34, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• Law of chastity - This is a law that affects the daily life of many Mormons, but hardly anything is written.Joshuajohanson 22:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Accuracy disputed

• Plural wives of Joseph Smith, Jr. - see my comments at Talk:Plural wives of Joseph Smith, Jr. --Nerd42 15:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Page has been renamed Joseph Smith, Jr. and Polygamy for NPOV reasons -Visorstuff 22:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Neutrality questioned

There is currently an allegation by editors at the article Noah's Ark that mentioning the status of Noah / Gabriel and his Ark in the LDS Church Scriptures constitutes "undue weight", because Mormons are an "insignificant minority"... Editor who removed all mention of Mormon beliefs challenges opponents to "gain consensus for mentioning Mormonism first. This is only the latest in several ongoing problems at that article with a few dominant editors who make no secret of their hostility to all forms of faith. Til Eulenspiegel 21:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. Is there really any unique Latter Day Saint viewpoint on Noah's Ark? I don't think there's anything worth mentioning. Maybe the Noah and Ham (son of Noah) articles, but not the Noah's Ark article. COGDEN 23:44, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I thought that the article on Noah's Ark should list all the various scriptures where the Ark is actually mentioned, even if nothing unique is added -- which would include the Book of Mormon (Ether 6:7) and also Book of Moses, alongside the scriptures of various other faiths that mention the Ark, like the Old and New Testaments, the Quran, the Bahai scriptures, and even the other scriptures of some smaller religions indigenous to the Ararat region. But I am running into an unbelievable level of personal attacks, hostility, and general opposition to my idea of mentioning all the references to Noah's Ark in the scriptures of these various modern-day religions. Please see also: User talk:Til Eulenspiegel. Til Eulenspiegel 23:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I would drop the issue, personally. Although maybe that kind of information could be put in footnotes in some cases, I don't really think there's a pressing need to cite scriptures unless the scripture says something unique about the ark that isn't already covered by the Bible. I don't think it's worth the fight. COGDEN 18:46, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not that urgent an issue, I predict that ultimately in its ideal form, maybe 5, 10 years down the road, the "list of the scriptures that mention the ark" could actually include BoM right alongside the Old and New Testaments, the Quran, the Kitab-i-Iqtan, the Mes'hef Resh, and the "Mandaean scriptures". I am not pursuing the issue just now, because there is now a much more alarming issue of bias, bigotry and favoritism arising from the handling of all of this at User talk:Til Eulenspiegel. Til Eulenspiegel 18:52, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

• Blacks and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - see comments at Talk:Blacks and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints#Another revelation account. Joshuajohanson 22:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

• First Vision - In the middle of a POV dispute and edit war. This is in need of somebody who can help moderate the discussion, although the talk page is certainly spilling over with plenty of comments. There is plenty of raw material already presented to raise this to an A-class article if the POV issues can be resolved, including many citable references. --Robert Horning 04:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Listed at Articles for deletion

• Portrayals of Mormons in popular media (AfD discussion)

How To Find WP:LDS Articles

Category:Mormonism – See also: List of articles about Mormonism

Category:Latter Day Saint art and culture – should we add literature? To me it is included in "art," but then so do films and music to me.

Category:Latter Day Saint films

Category:Latter Day Saint music

Category:Latter Day Saint denominations Category:Latter Day Saint doctrines, beliefs, and practices

Category:Latter Day Saint doctrines regarding deity

Category:Latter Day Saint hierarchy

crossreferences to Latter Day Saint leaders

Category:Latter Day Saint ordinances, rituals, and symbolism

Category:History of the Latter Day Saint movement Category:Latter Day Saint leaders

Category:Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Category:Presidents of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Category:Latter Day Saint texts

Category:Book of Mormon

Category:Latter Day Saint periodicals

crossreferences to Latter Day Saint denominations and Latter Day Saint hierarchy

Category:Significant places in Mormonism

Category:Mormon temples

Script-generated to-do lists

/Articles needed

553 red links compiled from nearly all of the articles in the Category:Mormonism hierarchy. I've listed the Mormonism-related articles that employ each red link because many of them are obvious mistakes that should be fixed on the page. Some should also be redirects to prevent similar mistakes in the future. I've also listed the number of main namespace links-to.

Many of these have nothing whatsoever to do with the Latter Day Saint movement, but I believe this list is interesting. Many secular links need to be fixed anyway.

Make intentions to write articles known on the project page — Cool Hand Luke 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

/Requested stubs

This list compiled from Category:LDS stubs, listed in order of number of links-to, excluding wikilinks from user pages and wikipedia namespace. Note that the {{LDS-stub}} template causes every LDS stub to have a self-referential link. Therefore, every article has one less link-to than this list shows. Thus, articles listed her have one less link-to than it would appear. Therefore the articles with "1" link-to are in fact orphans. Cool Hand Luke 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Heh. this dif shows that Mormon (prophet) is now beating Spencer W. Kimball for links. Meanwhile, Hyrum Smith has gained nine links since November, jumping up into the top ten. Cool Hand Luke 07:45, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Participants

The LDSM project is currently seeking new project members, please join and add to your watchlist if this topic is of interest, regardless of whether you are a Latter Day Saint or not.

You may also add the userbox for our WikiProject to your userpage using {{User WPLDSmov}}. If you would like to be listed in the members category without using the userbox, add [[Category:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement members|{{PAGENAME}}]] to your userpage.

• 74s181 Recently I am spending most of my time in the Mormonism and Christianity article. Since I live in KC, MO I also work on articles relating to Mormon / Missouri history.
• Alai
• Antley
• Austinsimcox Faithful member for most of my life
• Authr
• Badbilltucker - Probably only directly project-related activities.
• BankyEdwards
• User:Bccomm
• bhludzin
• Billlund
• Bochica - Particularly interested in adding references and addressing NPOV
• CaliforniaKid
• Cathryn Sign me up!
• Chiros Sunrider
• COGDEN
• Cookiecaper
• Cool Hand Luke
• Epsiloon - Lifeless, robotic, laptop-user seeking brutal overlord. Finds LDS movement interesting.
• Frecklefoot
• Gilgamesh
• Hathawayc
• Idono
• Jgardner
• John Hamer
• JonMoore
• JonRidinger lifelong LDS member from Ohio with particular interest in LDS History and structure.
• Jorbian Interested deeply in the subject and desire to make sure that all LDS realated articles are objective.
• Josiah
• KevinM
• Kitabparast
• Lethargy
• MaintainerZero
• -Mbatman 72
• meco
• Moogle
• MrWhipple
• Nerd42 (RLDS/Restoration Branch member)
• Nereocystis
• Noldoaran
• OneWeirdDude
• Pahoran513
• Paul D. Anderson
• RBurns
• Reaverdrop
• RobertC - I spend most of my time at the feastupontheword.org wiki, but would like to help out here occassionally.
• Rojerts
• Ryan Reeder
• Stekun
• Storm Rider
• Sue Anne
• Tech the Guru Floyd - unable to contribute for at least 2 years (beginning the end of 2006) ;)
• TheInfinityZero
• TheScurvyEye I just found this project on 11/6/05, let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
• Tijuana Brass - Taking a break from Wikipedia for the time being.
• Til Eulenspiegel 11:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
• Tom Haws
• TomasBat Lifelong LDS
• Trevdna After skirting around the edges for a few weeks, I am finally deciding to join today, on January 12, 2006.Have regrettably left Wikipedia - see user page for details.
• Trödel 15:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Useight
• Val42
• Vassyana 10:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• vegasbright
• Visorstuff
• WBardwin
• wrp103 (Bill Pringle) - Talk
• yovinedelcielo Will help where he can.

Participant responsiblities

Tasks/projects accepted

I've decided to start tackling the temples list. Does anyone know of someplace that offers fair use pictures of any of the temples? Sue Anne 22:57, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

• Liberty Jail - I've added a lot of material to this recently, still have a couple more sections to add. 74s181 13:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I apologize - I was negligent in adding my projects to this list. For anyone interested in critiquing, reviewing or editing, I have been working on the following tasks:

1. Expansion of stub Nahom to full article.
2. Expansion of stub Bountiful (Book of Mormon) to full article.
3. Complete reorganization of Archaeology and the Book of Mormon
4. Created article Limited Geography Model (Book of Mormon)
5. Created article Mormonism Unvailed
6. Expansion of article An Insider's View of Mormon Origins
7. Creation of stubs for Shazer and Joseph Smith: The Making of a Prophet

Bochica 20:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I've started a draft of an article on Zenos. I will create the actual article page when I'm done getting things ready. The work-in-progress may be viewed here. Chiros Sunrider 00:38, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Help wanted

• Daniel3I need your help(images)

I posted many images about the Book of Mormon and about Mormons on wikipedia. They are there now for a long time. But suddenly came a administratorUser talk:Pascal.Tesson and wants to delete all images. I uploaded this images with a fair use rational. The images are used for Family Home Evening and I think this explains everything. Everybody is allowed to use them.This is the Gospel Art Picture Kit. Furthermore the LDS position of fair use is:[1] Notwithstanding the foregoing, we reserve sole discretion and right to deny, revoke, or limit use of this site, including reproduction. It is not our responsibility, however, to determine what "Fair Use" means for persons wishing to use materials from this site. That remains wholly a responsibility of the user. Further, we are not required to give additional source citations, nor to guarantee that the materials are cleared for alternate uses. Such ultimately remains the responsibility of the user. However, the Church maintains the right to prevent infringement of its materials and to interpret "Fair Use" as it understands the law. Furthermore I used also non-Church images to explain Mormon science, like [Image:Lehi Trail.jpg] Please help me to protect this images on wikipedia. This images should stay on wikipedia. I think there is an anti-mormon bias on wikipedia.

• Jgardner is looking for help in writing biographies on the church leaders. Contact him on his talk page if you want to help. He can show you what he is doing and where to go to get information. Even if you aren't a good writer, there is plenty of other work needed in correlating dates and various things.

• bhludzin - thank you for everyone who has done such a great job on the List of temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There are now articles on all of the existing temples. Now we need properly licensed pictures of all of the temples uploaded to Wikipedia so that they can be added to the articles and also to the list (check out the list - it is looking great!) I have gone to web sites, found some pictures, and asked the owners for permission via e-mail, and uploaded them. Please do not upload pictures without permission, the bots will just remove them. If you have any photos, or have friends with photos, please upload them. Thank you!

• DAde - He needs help because his Portal:Latter-day Saints is sometimes vandalised. Please look on his portal and correct vandalism.

• Jerry Crimson Mann is translating the article Mormon handcart pioneers into Chinese. He wants to know about the title of a book listed in the references, which is "Hafen and Hafen". What does "Hafen" mean in this case? Does it refer to "heaven"? Or does it mean "harbor" in the German language? He's looking forward to your reply. :)

• The Eight Witnesses article is sometimes vandalised with anti-mormon bias. Please look on this page and revert anti-mormon bias.

• Mormon pioneers is the current collaboration of the month. I would like to add the non-commercial LDS movies, Legacy: A Mormon Journey to the external Links section.I think to upload this movie on http://video.google.com/ would not be a problem because LDS movies like The Restoration (Google Video) are also on http://video.google.com/ .But I can not upload this movie because I do not have it and I´m from Europe and I´m not a mormon. So please, is there someone out there who can upload this movie on http://video.google.com/ and share it with us?Daniel3 17:02, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

• Chiros Sunrider will soon be attempting to create a Book of Mormon category template. He would like a good image of golden plates (which is useable per WP:IUP) to use for it, preferably similar to this image. Any help would be appreciated.

Sixth Column

The Sixth Column article was recently tagged with being part of thie project. It has been a few years since I read this book, but this book seems too far removed from this project. Why was it tagged? — Val42 03:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Val, I read the article, but I have not read the book. If there is any connection it was not included in the article. I deleted the category. What I found interesting is the category itself and the articles that have been included. Some are obvious, but others have very little in common with LDS or Mormons. Strange.--Storm Rider ^(talk) 05:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

This is indeed true. I have been tagging a lot of articles lately for the project moving though mormon-/LDS–related categories, ususally tagging everything in sight. This method obviously has the disadvantage of being indiscriminate in perpetuating errors of judgment (or ill will) committed by previous editors. I hope, though, that most will agree to my continued endeavor in this respect, as there is a huge backlog of project-related articles that don't carry the project banner, and hence are only indirectly visible to project members. Also, this constitutes a bottleneck for recruiting new members. Category:Portrayals of Mormons in popular media was in fact remarkable in the way that a lot of its entries didn't expound any relation to mormonism bar the categorization itself. However, since I a) weren't familiar with any of the works, and b) didn't become aware of this awkward phenomenon until I was well on my way to having worked through it all, I believe all entries here have now been tagged with the LDSproject banner. I think it would be beneficial if someone with a keen knowledge of LDS culture would re-check all articles in that particular category and remove all entries (as well as the spuriously added category, which Storm Rider did) that obviously shouldn't have this connection asserted. Perhaps some little investigation may be called for in some instances: i.e. querying the editor who added the article to the mormon-related category. In all cases that aren't positively spurious, a notice on the article's talk page would be prudent, I think. __meco 07:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Good counsel. I believe that User:Uncle G added the category to one of the articles I checked. I will go back and check. The only thing I got out of the article is that an individual was racist; there may have been a prophet involved also. But those are hardly traits of Mormonism...there have been many prophets and many racists. It is too easy to perceive an editor is not acting in good faith, which is not acceptable; posting a note on their talk page will quickly clarify motivation. Good points, thanks. --Storm Rider ^(talk) 07:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)