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==Thanks==
Thank you for all your help last year, but [[User talk:TravisTX|this isn't the place for me any longer]]. Best wishes to you in your future endeavors! TravisTX [[Special:Contributions/98.196.17.17|98.196.17.17]] ([[User talk:98.196.17.17|talk]]) 21:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

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Quick update

Hey, just to let you know I haven't stopped editing here. Just going through some hard times at college, which are likely to carry on until at least late June. I probably won't be considering running before then. Hope you're alright. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 17:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup Newsletter

16:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC) The Helpful Bot 16:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Geography WikiProject update - 03/15/2009

You commented on the awards effort when it was just getting started a long while back - I thought you might like to see the end results...

The award images are complete!

After months of toil and attention to detail, Penubag has completed the set of images for this WikiProject's awards!

There are five race ribbons:

There's an engraved medallion:

And by far the hardest to create, a golden trophy:

If you are interested in the contests and collaborations that will feature these awards, drop me a note.

And be sure to pop by Penubag's talk page to let him know what you think of his graphics artistry.

The Transhumanist    22:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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On behalf of the Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign, we just want to spread Wikipedia:WikiLove by wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 15:50, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for File:Apples_to_apples_cards.jpg

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Thanks, I believe I've cleared things up. Malinaccier (talk)

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Happy Malinaccier's Day!

Malinaccier has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
and therefore, I've officially declared today as Malinaccier's day!
For being one of our calmest, ablest administrators,
enjoy being the Star of the day, Malinaccier!

Cheers,
bibliomaniac15
00:39, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you'd like to show off your awesomeness, you can use this userbox.

Congrats. :)Juliancolton Talk · Review 00:45, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Malinaccier's Day :) Are we expected to give presents? —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 17:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Thankspam

Hi Malinaccier, very very belated thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed by an embarrassingly wide margin, there's a full glitzy Oscar style version of my acceptance speech here. I hope your Real Life issue resolves itself well for you, and look forward to mopweilding with you in the future. PS I found User:Malinaccier/Wikiphilosophy an interesting read. ϢereSpielChequers 20:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup Newsletter

20:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


Delivered for the WikiCup by  GARDEN  at 20:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC). Queries to my talk.[reply]

WikiCup Newsletter XI

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 21:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.[reply]

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Hmm...

Seems there's some support for me running pretty soon, per this. Pending a review from Balloonman/I'm Spartacus!, would you be happy if I ran in the coming week or so? —Cyclonenim | Chat  00:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll await the two reviews from Balloonman and SoWhy and decide further then. I'm also curious to hear Lankiveil's view. Hope you're well. —Cyclonenim | Chat  17:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In case you're interested ;) Thanks for the support you've given me over the past few months of our coaching, it means a lot. —Cyclonenim | Chat  23:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'll sign off on whatever tomorrow, perhaps around midday my time. Regards. —Cyclonenim | Chat  23:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm flattered, thanks. I'll enter the hellhole of RfA tomorrow when I've got a bit of time to answer the questions. Thanks again (I've said thanks a stupendous amount of times on this page...) —Cyclonenim | Chat  00:14, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Admin coaching

Hi! Could you be willing to admin coach me? I need some experience before running for adminship. MathCool10 Sign here! 05:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I might have transcluded early, but I'll remind him to answer the questions. --Dylan (chat, work, ping, sign) 16:31, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RFA thanks

My RFA passed today at 61/5/4. Thanks for participating in my RFA. I appreciate all the comments I received and will endeavor to justify the trust the WP community has placed in me. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 20:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Outline of knowledge project summary, and future direction

In response to a friend on Wikipedia who was wondering about how I've been and what I've been up to, I got to spewing about our little endeavor, and well, I got so carried away I pretty much told him everything.  :) The message turned out to be a pretty good summary of what we've accomplished so far and the overall plan.

See User talk:The Rambling Man#What's up?

The Transhumanist    23:11, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Easter!

On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 07:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion

In Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of philosophical theories, the editor who created the nominated page mentioned that the material he used to create that list was previously AfD'd.

Therefore, the page is subject to speedy deletion (WP:G4).

Had I known this, I would have tagged it for speedy instead of nominating it for AfD. What should I do now? Withdraw the nom, and tag the article for speedy?

The Transhumanist    23:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

Hey Malinaccier :) Thought I'd let you know that I have withdrawn from my RfA per some very good concerns raised by Jc37 (talk · contribs) which have resulted in me not feeling ready at this time. It was also clear that the RfA wouldn't pass, without his concerns. Sorry I didn't give you prior notice of this withdrawal, it happened quite suddenly after I realised the extent of his concerns. Thanks, I hope you will continue to coach me under upcoming months, but feel free to decline. —Cyclonenim | Chat  12:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that'd be great. Let's just take things slowly, one step at a time, and I'll run in the future if we all agree upon being ready again. --—Cyclonenim | Chat  22:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup Newsletter XII

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 17:03, 13 April 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.[reply]

Update on the Outline of knowledge WikiProject & Geography WikiProject (Country outlines workgroup) - 04/16/2009

Momentum in the development of the outlines is continuing to build, even though we haven't added any new outlines lately. Plenty of work is being done on the outlines we already have.

Keep up the good work everyone!

Inspiration!

Kudos go to Buaidh, who has dived head first into outline development, continuing improvement of the country outlines, and doing so vigorously. Take a look at his contribs. He has taken the initiative and has been expanding those outlines' design and coverage. Be sure to let him know what you think of his work!

Coming soon: the Super Huge Expansion (it will be really really big)

Excitement (mine at least) is building as we approach the Super Huge Expansion, during which notices will be placed on thousands of subject talk pages and their corresponding WikiProjects (see below concerning which ones). Though not all on the same day! - this will take place over a period of weeks or months, because it's best not to open the flood gates all at once.

The existing outlines should serve as strong examples for editors who wish to develop new outlines, and so we need to complete them as much as we can before we start to take this to the next level (in about 3 months). The rewrite of the outline article (the draft, which explains outlines in detail), and the guideline on outlines and outline development, also need to be completed before the transcendence begins. These will help guide the decisions and actions of editors, and reduce confusion.

What's next? Where is the Outline of knowledge headed?

Well, it will grow, to encompass all of human knowledge.

But, is there a plan?

YES!!!

Currently under construction on the Outline of knowledge WikiProject page is a version of the outline that will display links to all the outline pages currently in the encyclopedia proper, links to all outline drafts, and redlinks to all planned outline drafts.

You can help. Please place links to the remaining drafts in there (with complete pagenames so we can easily tell they are drafts). Once all the draft pages are placed, please look over the overall outline for gaps in coverage, and add missing subjects. I expect there are thousands of missing subjects extensive enough to benefit from being outlined. New subjects should be included as red draft links. Thank you.

But it's not just an editing task list...

During the upcoming "Super Huge Expansion" (mentioned above), the article talk page and WikiProject for each of the subjects listed on the projected outline will receive a notice requesting the creation and development of the outline page for that subject. Each notice will also explain how a subject's outline will integrate into the Outline of knowledge and into Wikipedia's navigation system as a whole.

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge#Projected outline.

Topic lists

The nice thing about a reverse outline is that it turns up problems that exist in the publication being outlined, which provides opportunities to fix them. Since we get very little or no opposition to fixing problems even on sets of hundreds of pages, we've been plowing through them.

One of the biggest problems in Wikipedia that our work on the Outline of knowledge has uncovered so far is with the set of topics lists. Their titles, in the forms "List of x topics" and "List of x-related topics" are ambiguous, and they are not the most common terms for describing their content. See WP:COMMONNAME. To make matters worse, the set is divided between 2 competing types/sets of pages: alphabetical indexes, and outlines.

In an effort to sort out this mess, the indexes are being renamed, and the outlines are being reformatted and moved, or merged, into the Outline of knowledge.

So far, almost 300 topic lists have been renamed to indexes. Nobody has objected to the names chosen, but one editor has expressed reservation on the approach - he was concerned it would cause confusion by having 2 title standards in place at the same time for these. Though he himself was not confused, nor did he object to the titles. And nobody else has expressed confusion or dissatisfaction with the new titles either. It has been over 2 weeks since the renaming has begun, and since no confusion seems to have been caused, and since there is no opposition to the new names, I plan to continue with the renaming.

Also, one topic list has been merged into its corresponding outline so far: List of transport topics was merged into Outline of transport. It turned out very good. List of cell biology topics is currently being merged into Outline of cell biology (see the link dump in hidden comments at the end of the outline).

I'm not sure how many lists have "topics" in their titles, but Google turned up 788, and these appear to include the ones that have already been renamed to indexes. Subtracting those renamed so far, there are about 500 more to go.

Watching tips

I thought you might want to compare notes on the methods we use to watch over the outlines. Here's how I keep an eye on things...

My watchlist had so many thousands of articles in it that I finally just deleted them all. Now I have it set so that I have to manually add pages to be watched, and I use it only to watch trouble spots and collaborations I'm participating in.

Because I like to watch specific sets of pages at a time, I use "Related changes" on list pages. That way the results are not watered down with edits from pages I'm not immediately concerned with.

I always use WP:POP and Related changes together. With POP installed, you go to a link list, like User:Buaidh/Country outlines of the Americas, then click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu, and then hover the mouse cursor over the diff and hist links so you can look at those without clicking on them.

It's pretty fast.

The technique turns Wikipedia's list system into a crystal ball.

Update Scanner

Penubag recommends Update Scanner, which is a Firefox add-on that periodically scans pages and pings you when a change is detected. You can even set its level of sensitivity for each scanned page (e.g., "ignore changes of 100 words or less").

I'd use it, but I don't have a computer.  :(

See also WP:OTS for more power tools and techniques, and User:Penubag/optimum toolsets for some more nice addons, that do a variety of things.

I'm always looking for new power tools and power skills, so if you know of any, please share (let me know)!

The Transhumanist    04:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free media (File:Half of a Yellow Sun cover.jpg)

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RfA Thankspam

Thanks to everyone who took the time and trouble to take part in my RfA whether support, oppose or neutral. All comments are valued and will be considered carefully in the coming weeks. Feel free to add more advice on my talk page if you think I need it. SpinningSpark 23:52, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In case you're wondering, the image is a smiley, just a little more aesthetic, but not as serious as the Mona Lisa

Do not read this one - The Hunt - Outline of knowledge WikiProject - 04/17/2009

Here's a trivia question for you...

While surveying libraries, their outline-related resources, and our coverage of them, I came across something funny...

What subclass is the Bible in the Library of Congress Classification?

Do you think they'd like this one at WP:DYK?

(Nope. They didn't.)     :)

Libraries

For months, I've been sitting at a terminal in one of the largest libraries in the country, and I haven't even looked around at the available resources.

Until a few days ago.

I'm overwhelmed.

When compared to libraries, Wikipedia is small. (See Digest of Education Statistics 2008, Chapter 7:Libraries and Educational Technology Libraries, and turn to page 617).

But is that a fair comparison?

Yes.

Why?

Because we have growth potential.  :)

And we cover everything, including libraries!

Guess what else I found?

Hunting for outlines

I began to study libraries and librarians, since they are experts in organizing knowledge. And of course I turned to Wikipedia to see what we had on the things I came across...

And while doing so I kept running into outlines on Wikipedia that are not (yet) part of the Outline of knowledge.

When I come across non-OOK outlines, generally I rename them, and reformat them to our standard outline format. But there is the occasional exception.

Here are some outlines I just added:

  1. List of energy topics --> Outline of energy (it converted great)
  2. List of Dewey Decimal classes --> Outline of Dewey Decimal classes (no conversion)
  3. Library of Congress Classification --> ??? (no rename, no conversion)

The last 2 are outlines by their very nature, and so our standard outline subheadings didn't seem to fit. So I left them as is.

I renamed the first 2, but the last one is the name of the outline, that is, the topic itself is an outline, and that outline is presented as the article's content, so I left the name as is. For now. This needs more thought.

Of course, that's not all. Concerning those last 2 outlines above...

Alternate outlines of knowledge

...not only are they outlines, but they are outlines of knowledge! Well, the top few levels, at least.

Uh, so?

What happens if we linkify them?  :)

That is, what happens if we linkify their classifications to Wikipedia's outlines?  :)   :)   :)

They become alternate top ends to the OOK

Yep.

What can you find?

I challenge you to find some "hidden" outlines.

I dare you to take a look around Wikipedia for hidden outlines (that is, outlines not yet hooked into the OOK), and add your kills to WP:WPOOK#The hunt for hidden outlines.

My trophies are already there.

May the hunt begin!

The Transhumanist    20:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup Newsletter XIII

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 09:35, 20 April 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.[reply]

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A doubt

Hi there MALINACCIER, VASCO from PORTUGAL here,

I have a question for you regarding Mateen Cleaves' article: why was the OFF-COURT ISSUES section removed, as you cited some guideline in the process? I thought it was highly informative.

I also tell you i am in no way defending my work, as i did not write that text, just curious (ah and i also reassure you by saying i did not re-instate anything, it stayed as it was before you removed that bit).

Have a good time, ty for clearing me,

VASCO AMARAL - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 20:37, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup Newsletter XIV

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 14:29, 26 April 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.[reply]

I have tried to structure the article as per MOS:MED. Also, I added a bunch of review articles under "Further reading" incase someone wants to read through them and add some facts. ---kilbad (talk) 14:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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PERSONAL INFO

Hi there MALIN, VASCO here again,

Regarding your response to my doubt about personal info being added to articles, i clearly see your point, sometimes it can get rather ridiculous, and you are correct, WP is not the Daily Mirror or akin.

My opinion is that sometimes, such info (drug abuse battles, assaults (see for instance former New Jersey Nets Jayson Williams) can provide insightful, dare i say psychological details as to why these folk did what they did in a given point in their lives, sometimes still during their active careers, in any given field of "expertise".

To wrap it up, i repeat i do see your point. What could be defined as a "common ground" in these matters, in your opinion?

From Portugal, kind regards, keep up the good work,

VASCO AMARAL - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 19:18, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Headsup: a discussion wrt the possibility of renaming

"Internet homicide" has commenced at Talk:Internet_homicide#Name. ↜Just me, here, now 20:45, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup Newsletter XV

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 08:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.[reply]

Thank you for your opinion

RfA parsing

FYI, you are showing up twice at RfA here. --Preceding unsigned comment 01:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, what happened with the autotext. It screwed everything up! Anyways, User:Ottava Rima has fixed it for me, so drop him a thank you note for me while you're there, would you?[1] OhanaUnitedTalk page 02:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that he's attempting to convert links to raw HTML code. OhanaUnitedTalk page 02:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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RfA Thank You

My RFA passed today at 75/2/1 so I wanted to thank you for your participation in it. Special thanks go to GlassCobra and FlyingToaster for their nomination and support. Cheers! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfA Thanks

Thank you for participating in my recent RfA, which was unable pass with a final tally of (45/39/9). I plan on addressing the concerns raised and working to improve in the next several months. Hopefully, if/when I have another RfA I will win your support. Special thanks go to MBisanz, GT5162, and MC10 for nominating me. Thanks again, -download ׀ sign! 01:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A couple questions for you...

What are the benefits of a tree structure?

The article doesn't say.

I'm interested, because I need to explain the benefits in the guideline on outlines I'm writing. (Outlines are a type of tree structure).

I've also asked the question at various reference desks, and these threads may help to jump start your brain on this question.  :)

What are the benefits of outlines, over and above regular articles?

What benefits have you noticed?

How are Wikipedia's outlines useful to you?

I look forward to your answers on my talk page.

The Transhumanist    04:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback

Unfortunately, my RFA was closed today with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your participation in it. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns. Special thanks go to Schmidt, MICHAEL Q., TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 — talk 20:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WPOOK Update - 05/17/2009 - Blockbusting!

This project needs another shot in the arm.

So here it goes...

Countries WikiProject Collaboration - Contests!

I've contacted all 59 members of the Countries WikiProject to help in designing and conducting contests for the further development of the country outlines.

You are invited too.

The guidelines and outline article still aren't complete.

Which means you will be needed to help explain to the newcomers mentioned above what outlines are and how to develop them.

Please participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries#Hosting country coverage contests.

The Transhumanist    22:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup Newsletter XVI

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 09:12, 18 May 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.[reply]

Shameless thankspam

FlyingToaster Barnstar

Hello Malinaccier! Thank you so much for your support in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of 126/32/5. I am truly humbled by the trust you placed in me, and will endeavor to live up to that trust. FlyingToaster

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Thanks

Thank you for all your help last year, but this isn't the place for me any longer. Best wishes to you in your future endeavors! TravisTX 98.196.17.17 (talk) 21:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]