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*[[Terry Fox Run]]
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*[[Tax Court of Canada]]
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*[[Toronto Humane Society]]
*[[Transport Canada]] (lots of sections that need to be added to)
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*[[Commissioner of the Ontario Provincial Police]]
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Articles in dispute

These are articles are tagged as having either their neutrality or accuracy in dispute.

is this cleaned up enough to remove from the list? PKT 17:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
it's not bad, but needs more substance and some references. I added 2 "fact" tags. PKT 19:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • History of Chinese immigration to Canada - this currently is turning into something much more than "immigration" and shoudl be retitled to History of the Chinese in Canada or something like that; or its non-immigration material should be excised; there are tons of overlap between this and other chinese-Canadian articles, which are abundant and disproportionate to coverage of any othe group; and all highly POV due to the POV nature/tone of latter-day press/academic coverage. I've been trying to add gold rush-era material but haven't had a lot of time to do so; when I first found this article it mimicked/transposed US history on Canadian (a fault which Canadian Chinese organizations such as the CCNC seem in no hurry to correct). This article needs de-POV'ing and there's more content that can be added, including immigration/departure figures and a more frank discussion of anti-Chinse-immigration policies/debates than the usual "they were just racists" tone; ethnohistory articles should NOT be written only from the perspective of the ethnic group in question, nor should they be policied to maintain an ethno-biased POV.....(see Talk:Chinese Canadian for a sampling of such ethno-biaed POVs). I know this sounds "testy" and I guess it is; like others in Canada I'm getting tired of having "my" history rewritten to suit ethnic-atonement agendas and the brow-beating tone of such articles (this one's a lot better than when I found it, but still it's been an edit war at times). I'm leaving Wikipedia after next weekend (for quite a while, if not forever) so am leaving notes on things I know need doing; this is a big one, and its existence also implies, for fairness:
  • etc ad nauseam.
  • Oregon boundary dispute, Oregon Treaty, Alaska Boundary Dispute, Alaska Boundary Treaty are all heavily US-POV/content and need "BCPOV" and "BritishPOV"/"CanadianPOV? materials/perspective.Skookum1 19:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Articles to expand

These are articles that are stubs or in need of expansion

Events

People

Government and Politics

Buildings and locations

Organizations and officials

Miscellany

Articles to clean-up

These articles are tagged as needing to be cleaned up to conform to a higher standard of quality.

List templates

Disambiguation issues

Sometimes, articles are written which mistakenly link to disambiguation pages, or even directly to incorrect topics. These need to be monitored from time to time to ensure that incorrect links are replaced. Some such pages are listed here; if you want to assist in cleaning up links, use the "what links here" page on the given article, and correct the link in any case where you are sure that the actual intended topic is the Canadian one. If you're unsure, please post to WP:CANTALK for assistance. Also please add other pages here which need this type of monitoring, if known.

Please note that as there are always new articles being written, this is a permanent list that needs ongoing monitoring. Accordingly, please do not remove a location from this list just because you've cleaned up all the incorrect links that existed at one specific time, as new incorrect links will invariably exist again in the future.

Links to wrong article

Fixing this type of incorrect link is the top priority.

Disambiguation pages

These should be corrected whenever possible, although since the dab page offers a link to the correct article it's not as crucial to fix these promptly as it is to fix links to the wrong article altogether.

Tricky cases

Sault Ste. Marie is tricky and should probably only be reviewed by an "expert", so to speak, as there are times when the general disambiguation page is the most correct choice. Articles where the Ontario city is clearly the intended topic should be redirected to Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, but there are cases where a distinction between the city in Ontario and the one in Michigan is either not obvious, or even irrelevant to the context of the reference. (For example, the Saulteaux First Nation historically inhabited both sides of the river in the SSM area; accordingly, the link to Sault Ste. Marie in that article is correctly pointed to the dab page.) These links should only be changed when the reference is clearly to the Ontario city alone; if there's any doubt, leave the link as is.

Ktunaxa, Okanagan people and Taku people are all for border-spanning indigenous peoples, and depending on the article some might be more USPOV, others BCPOV, i.e. in terms of content if not tone. In the Ktunaxa case it's currently a redirect to Kutenai (tribe), which is written as the overall Ktunaxa tribal organization (which spans the border, but the page is about the US Reserves/Agencies and their government, and there's no real content on the Canadian Ktunaxa; but there should be a separate Ktuanaxa "ethnic" article - and Kutenai (tribe) because of its title should be a redirect/alternate to it (the parentheses-tribe format is common in US aboriginal articles, but not a standard); a similar situation with Okanagan people exists, as the Okanagan Nation Alliance - which is national only in the Okanagan sense, i.e. like the Ktunaxa they consider themselves the same people despite the border - is mostly Canadian but does include the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Agency as one of its component governments. The Southern Okanagans, who under Tonasket were split off from the BC-side Okanagans by the boundary, organized separately and of course were herded onto a reservation, in this case like many in the United States which are multi-tribal, so the Colville article is also a reference point for Sanpoil, Coeur d'Alene (people), Sinixt and so on. This isn't as confusing as it sounds - one of the parameters of the Indigenous peoples WikiProject is to delineate ethnic articles from government articles from community articles from other-organization articles; many are still also language articles, which should always be separate, but also governments; which relates to the complexities just gone through about the Ktunaxa and Okanagan article-needs, and many others like them. We've applied this to the BC First Nations articles quite a bit, but it all still needs working out, and all across the country there's a huge body of Indigenous articles that need writing up, particularly band/tribal councils and even ethnic articles (Comox people for one of many just in BC); the name format that we've been following for government articles is "First Nation" unless as with Squamish Nation that's how a government styles itself by name; the ethnic articles do not include either Nation or First Nation, but may have "people" or with US peoples "(tribe)" within their square brackets, or none as with Skwxwu7mesh which is the article for the Squamish people as opposed to their band/tribal government as currently constituted (as User:OldManRivers describes it Indian Act government, i.e. a ward of the state and not equal to it - btw Indian Agent needs an article big-time). The Taku people case is a little different as this article just got created; it's not clear to me - I don't know the ethnography of that part of BC well - if these are the same as the Taku River Tlingit of the Taku River First Nation; if they are the BCproj template should be added to the page; it may be a case of another border-split of a single people (as also with Haida and Tsimshian in the same general region) with a necessary parallel proliferation of parallel articles (there being different organizations for the same people); I believe the same issue exists with the Assiniboine, Blackfoot and others elsewhere. It's a complex web, but if it's not organized properly it's a nightmare to navigate, as there's no consistency in categories and types of articles......for more on this consult the Article Requests page at the BC WikiProject and also talk pages around the various indigenous pages in BC; the same issues apply elsewhere in terms of "getting it right", especially making sure the First Nations perspective is respected and input from indigenous sources - and indigenous wikipedians - is critical. Anyway, this is my last opus here; I'm signing off Wikipedia tonight, and hoping that someone here will understand what I've just explain and take up the torch; there's a few in the BC project who are following up in this direction, but there's a host of Canada-wide indigenous articles that are yet undone, from governments to ethnographic ones to individual people articles. Lots of work, and difficult and tricky - and touchy - to sort out, which is why I put these comments in this section. There's still unsorted-out stuff like the Ktunaxa/Kutenai (tribe) articles and subarticles that need sorting out/creating but I no longer have the time, despite the interest....Skookum1 05:20, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]