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June 2

British show

I was in London for a holiday and watched this show that I think was on BBC. It revolved around this family with a teenage son and two younger children, and they would do "weird" things. Their parents usually tried to solve the problems but would end up making it worse. I can't remember the name of the program or the names of any of the characters now.

Thanks in advance, 110.174.151.109 (talk) 05:25, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Outnumbered? Nanonic (talk) 07:15, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Or My Family? DuncanHill (talk) 08:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

They still repeat that, don't they...*yawn* :) Chevymontecarlo 12:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Forget 'repeat', they still make it, they're up to like series 10 or something. That said, I suspect quite a lot of "repeating" is going on by now.~ mazca ^talk 15:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps 2point4 children? AndrewWTaylor (talk) 12:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't think 2point4 children has been repeated or shown on the BBC (or elsewhere) in quite a while - my bet would be on Nanonic's guess of Outnumbered, I think. ~ mazca ^talk 15:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Same. Chevymontecarlo 16:21, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

For anyone who hasn't seen these shows, I'd just point out that Outnumbered is semi-improvised, and is far funnier than either of the others mentioned. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:30, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you all, it was Outnumbered. 110.174.151.109 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC).

The Who

There's a video of the Who somewhere, and I think it's of them performing "My Generation," and in this video, Roger Daltrey (The lead singer) is wearing sun glasses and a striped shirt I think. Can I please have a link to this video? Thanks. 4.246.160.240 (talk) 05:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Was this when the band were at their prime (late 60s-70s) or in their older years? 24.189.90.68 (talk) 07:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Our article about "My Generation|" does mention a music video featuring a montage of live performance clips has been played on music stations - perhaps that is it, and it might be available commercially.

We cannot provide links to copyrighted material. There are some video clips available on their official website.  Chzz  ►  12:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Title of an old film

This was a science fiction film, probably from the 1950s. A spaceship crew flies to one of the gas giant planets, I think Uranus or Neptune. There they discover a region with an Earth-like atmosphere, in which they can walk around without their spacesuits. The rest of the planet is bitterly cold with a poisonous atmosphere. The Earth-like region is separated from the rest of the planet by some kind of force field, which one can walk through. One of the crew makes the mistake of sticking his unprotected hand through the force field, which instantly becomes frostbitten. Hemoroid Agastordoff (talk) 18:06, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

There was an episode of Star Trek that had a similar plot device. Though, I don't remember anyone sticking their hand through the forcefield. Dismas|^(talk) 20:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Star Trek:The Next Generation, episode:The Royale, 1989. Our article fails to mention the planet's conditions and the force-field on the gas giant, see Memory Alpha for a better description.StuRat (talk) 02:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I had forgotten there was "The Royale" too but I thought there was an Original Series episode as well. Dismas|^(talk) 17:12, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

"The Savage Curtain" is the closest TOS episode I can remember, but that was a hot planet, not a cold one. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Journey to the Seventh Planet, Earthling. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:45, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Song title- been bugging me!

I need the title of a fairly recent song that I heard on our local Jack FM station. I can't tell the lyrics very well, but it has the words "sunshine" repeated often, and has 2 singers. The man is gruff and yet juvenile, and reminds me of Sonic the Hedgehog with laryngitis, and the other singer is female. I also think it sounds vaguely electro-tropical, and has a temple block strike repeated. If anybody knows this title and artist(s) for sure, not guessing, tell me, please. 98.240.190.197 (talk) 23:00, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Steal My Sunshine. By the way, why would you lecture us about not guessing? There's going to be some guesswork involved unless you recite exact lyrics. Comet Tuttle (talk) 23:54, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. It would be a nice trick if we could be 100% correct, given the vague, and often wrong, descriptions we are given. StuRat (talk) 02:45, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that's the one. Thanks! 98.240.190.197 (talk) 11:25, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

PS:If I do ask for a song title, it's because I can't understand the lyrics. So if I'm vague, it's 'cause SO WERE THEY, kinda.

Well if you're gonna guess, we're gonna guess too! We're only human just as you are. --TammyMoet (talk) 12:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

June 3

Which one was which ?

Last night I enjoyed another viewing of the classic Raising Arizona, one of the best comedy movies of all time - not far behind the best (Blazing Saddles), and at the end there is a scene that Nicholas Cage's characeter HI dreams of Nathan Junior playing gridiron, and being carried upon the shoulders of his team mates after scoring a six pointer. The young actor who played him was Todd Michael Bodgers, born 1968, like myself. Now many years ago I watched an episode of Unsolved Mysteries, and yes it has been a while, but from that I gathered that this actor and a friend of his was murdered, as noted in the episode I saw. But I see that Mr. Bodgers did die - but as IMDB puts it, from driving a faulty car. Now I am confused - and trust me - that is not an unusual occurence, but from the episode hosted all those years ago by Robert Stack, I had gotten the impression it was an actor from Raising Arizona, and that there was a scene in which he was sitting with the son that HI did have in the end, and that within the plot of the movie by some coincidence the real son of HI and the one he kidnapped (Nathan Arizona, Jr.), became friends, and that both or at least one of the actors portraying them in the dream sequence at the end of the film had been murdered. Now is there an alternate ending to the movie, or is it that Unsolved Mysteries was speaking of another film where there were two young actors killed in such a way ? The Russian.202.36.179.66 (talk) 02:01, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't have an answer, but can report that googling that actor only led to hundreds of echoes of the IMDB data. IMDB doesn't require references or truthfulness in the entries, so I take its data with a grain of salt. Comet Tuttle (talk) 18:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I have seen discrepancies between a number of sources with respect to birth dates and places and such of actors. Who ever wrote the mention of Mr. Bodgers dying in a car crash may have heard he had died, but mixed up the way he did - or not. Thanks, I shall keep looking too. The Russian.202.36.179.66 (talk) 22:51, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Regina Spektor

Does anyone know how many octaves her voice spans? What vocal type is she? 24.189.90.68 (talk) 03:36, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Fawlty Towers missing episode

I understand that there is a book which contains the (alleged) script for an unbroadcast episode of Fawlty Towers. Does anyone know if this script is available online anywhere? (Illegality no obstacle...) Thanks! ╟─TreasuryTag►stannator─╢ 14:38, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I believe the rumour of a thirteenth episode started with a misprint in Leslie Halliwell's Film Guide.--TrogWoolley (talk) 16:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

We don't point people to copyvio sites. Comet Tuttle (talk) 16:23, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I did not ask to be pointed to a copyvio site. Anyone who wants to direct me to one is more than free to send an email ;) ╟─TreasuryTag►high seas─╢ 17:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

There is an interview here with writer Lars Holger Holm, who claims to have seen the "thirteenth episode", called "The Robbers", when drunk. Some more details here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Is that precisely the same site I linked to in my original post, and asked a very specific question after it, perhaps? ╟─TreasuryTag►draftsman─╢ 07:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

So it is. I'll try to be less helpful next time.  :-) Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:53, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

My brother has the book that I suppose has all twelve episodes of Fawlty in it, scriptwise - I have to admit, I do not know of a thirteenth, but if you wish to email me personally, I can see if I can get it off him - seeing I am the one who bought and owned it before giving it to him, since he collects that sort of memorabilia. (e-mail redacted) The Russian.202.36.179.66 (talk) 22:48, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

@ The Russian, I have redacted your email address to protect you from possible spamming. The Reference Desk protocol includes all responses to be posted here. 86.4.183.90 (talk) 07:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

extra time in football

i know that at half time the teams switch goalposts. do they switch goalposts again before extra time starts or is the goalpost position same as in the second half or something else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.189.218.131 (talk) 16:31, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

In American football, there's a coin flip; and, just as at the beginning of a game, the winner decides whether to kick or receive; and the loser decides what side of the field they want to be facing. See Overtime (sports), which has sections on different sports. Comet Tuttle (talk) 18:03, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I think he/she is asking about soccer, judging from his/her use of the term "extra time." -- Mwalcoff (talk) 00:02, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

"Goal posts" is an American football term. Is this true for Association Football/soccer? Dismas|^(talk) 02:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Unless I'm mistaken, the IP is from Singapore, so "goalposts" could be "goals" or "extra time" could be "overtime". It is hard to tell with a non-native speaker. -- kainaw™ 02:24, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The question seems clear to me: the OP is asking whether, in football, the teams change ends between the end of normal time and the start of extra time. I don't know the answer, unfortunately. They do of course change ends at the end of the first period of extra time. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 08:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I believe (but haven't found a definitive ref for this) that extra time is in effect treated as a new game, so that they toss for ends at the start of extra time. But I could be wrong. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:46, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Sure, but is the question about football, football, football, or football? And if it's the last, is it football, football or football, as they have slightly different with respect to non-regulation time? -- 140.142.20.229 (talk) 00:41, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Nobody in Singapore plays American football! --Aspie aspie (talk) 11:30, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

That could be why he needs to ask. APL (talk) 20:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

op here, i want to ask about association football. goalposts is american term? i dont know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.189.218.7 (talk) 10:22, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

For soccer, the usual terminology is to "change ends". Goalposts are simply the vertical posts which form part of the goal - "switching goalposts" is not terminology that would be used in the UK or, I guess, for soccer in the US. But we understood what you meant, I think. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

ok but nobody answered my question. do the teams change ends before extra time starts or play at the same ends as in the first half? someone please answer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.189.217.83 (talk) 09:54, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Without looking it up, I seem to recall the last time I watched a match that went to extra time, there was a second toss and second decision as to which end to defend. If that is the case, then the answer to your question is "that depends on who wins the second toss, and what end they decide to defend". Hope that helps. --TammyMoet (talk) 11:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

That matches the comment I left here two days ago.  :-) Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:55, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

June 4

Aki Kaurismaki

It looks like no character ever laughs in his films. Are the Finns so grim?--117.204.80.156 (talk) 01:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

We have Category:Finnish comedy television series, so presumably not. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:45, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Ties in American sports leagues

How would a tie affect standings? Like after an tied NFL overtime quarter or a NBA game goes on for too long... hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 01:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

There's no tying in baseball! (Also see Overtime (sports) as Comet Tuttle suggested previously.) Clarityfiend (talk) 02:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

In those sports that allow it, it counts for more than a loss, less than a win. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

For NHL tie points and scoring, see National_Hockey_League_rules#Scoring_and_winning. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 06:32, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

In the NFL, a tie counts as half a win and half a loss for each team. Incidentally, List of NFL tied games says there have only been 17 tie games in the NFL since 1974, when the one-overtime-period rule was adopted. Because it is awesome, I must mention a related concept: There are special, very detailed rules at this page to decide which team gets to go to the playoffs if 2 teams have equal win-loss-tie records at the end of the regular season. Comet Tuttle (talk) 15:19, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The NFL has changed their overtime rules during the playoffs. Even though there was sympathy towards making those changes in effect for regular season games, it was voted down during this off-season. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 20:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

While most other countries would gladly end a regular league game in a draw, the irrational American hatred of ties (it's like kissing your sister, goes the famous proverb) means nearly every sports league will go to length to resolve a tie.

The only major sports league to still have ties is Major League Soccer, where ties count as one point as in the rest of the world -- of course, there are those who want to institute overtime or a shootout to break ties, but MLS know if they want to become relevant as a world-class league they can't afford to do this, lest Europeans see the league as different.

As stated before, ties are not possible in the MLB, although in the Japanese league games are tied after 12 innings and playoff games are tied (and therefore a replay is required) after 15 innings. In Japan, ties are essentially ignored and do not help or hurt a team.

Weekly PGA Tour events go to a sudden death playoff. This involves playing a set of three holes (usually the 16th, 17th and 18th holes), and any players who do not have the lowest score are eliminated after each hole. The winner is considered the winner of the tournament; in other words, there is no monetary or FedEx Cup points stigma attached to winning a tournament via playoff. For majors, The Masters Tournament does a sudden death playoff (the last one was in 2009); The Open Championship mandates a "mini-round" of four holes, and the lowest aggregate score after those four holes wins (the last one was in 2009); the U.S. Open requires tied participants to play another 18 on Monday, then a sudden death playoff is done if there is still a tie (the last one was in 2008); and the PGA Championship does a "mini-round" of three holes in the same manner as the Open Championship. Again, the winners of these are treated the same as if they won normally. Xenon54 (talk) 21:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Nice answer, Xenon54! I think it's also important to note that Major League Soccer originally had shoot-outs somewhat like hockey does, and experimented with tie-avoiding methods, before finally caving and aligning with the rest of the footie world. 61.189.63.191 (talk) 00:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Try cricket! Test matches can end in a win (and therefore loss for the opposing team), a draw (where the game ends and a team has not completed its innings), or a tie (where the game is completed wIth each team scoring the same number of runs). Matches can also be abandoned, awarded as a win by the umpires, and even conceded by a team. Tea and cucumber sandwiches anyone? Moriori (talk) 21:52, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Tied games were once fairly common in major league baseball (3 World Series games and a couple of All-Star Games ended in ties) and also in football (American style, both college and pro). Once lights were standard in baseball and suspended-game rules expanded, ties (which were usually caused by darkness or weather) became rare, although they are still possible under particular circumstances. The NFL and colleges have taken different approaches to resolving ties. In both sports, ties were originally disregarded in the standings but counted in the stats. In baseball, they are still disregarded in the standings, but in the NFL at least, they count as half a win and half a loss, as was mentioned earlier. The nature of basketball makes ties unnecessary, as the overtime periods are short and ties are usually resolved in 1 or 2 overtime periods. While ties are acceptable in the regular season, obviously you can't have a one-game matchup in post-season end in a tie, because there has to be a resolution. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

What is the name of that piece of music that HowTheWorldWorks plays at the start of every single one of his videos?

If you don't know what I'm talking about, visit [1] and watch the start of any of his videos.--Wikinv (talk) 03:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

It sounds like a generic piece of stirring current affairs music. They're all pretty similar, I suppose you can buy one off the shelf for use as a theme. It reminds me somewhat of the Channel 4 News theme, for instance, to which Bill Bailey once set the lyrics "things are bad, things are bad, really bad..." (or was that Panorama, or the old ITN theme?) 81.131.25.201 (talk) 06:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The Adventures of Pinnocchio

Are there any sites where in I can watch the full movie of The Adventures of Pinocchio (1996 film)?

Future thanks!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.55.167.81 (talk) 06:36, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

If there are any, they would be of dubious legality, and we wouldn't help you there. You could always, you know, buy it. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 08:58, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

It's also available on Netflix. Though not as a stream but you could have the DVD sent to you. Dismas|^(talk) 11:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Script for an epic movie 'BIRDS OF PARADISE' finished with lyrics(open to editing)

'BIRDS OF PARADISE' is the story of the rich sea captains who sail the Islands and by luring the natives on board and then luring them into the ships' hold, the capture of many Kanakas is successful. The Kanakas are sold as slaves. It is one time that several native women are accidently captured. BIRDS OF PARADISE spands the lives of several families. The charactor of Jason, the ship's owner, my partner and I visioned Brad Pitt and Renemae the captured native girl Angelina Jolly. The Cruise family and Nicole Kidman's family could all play the many characters. Having no idea how to promote my partner's and mine, 'BIRDS OF PARADISE' seeing George Miller on TV I thought I would enbolden myself to go to his sight and promote our epic (stated so by Rosemary Stern, agent for Paramount Studios who has waited ten years for some financial companies to come to the party. If you are unable to help us could you suggest someone. 'Our BIRDS OF PARADISE' script,(200+pages)is worth at least looking at it.) Shirley <email removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.79.24.151 (talk) 10:19, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I have removed your email address; we do not answer by email and it will only attract spam.
We cannot help you market your script, either. You need an agent for that. Your local library will offer writers guides which list reputable agents. Some warnings: Do not submit it to anyone who charges a reading fee or asks any money up front; remember than money should always flows to an author, not away. Do not pay anyone to list or publish it (these are usually scams). Check the career success of any agent you approach (if they have no real history of sales, then they are unlikely to sell yours. You might find it worthwhile to join a local writers group for support, constructive criticism and advice. Gwinva (talk) 10:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Original Empire State of Mind Chorus

As my SwissAir flight landed and taxed towards the gate, the plane's sound systems played a slow, non-hip-hop version of Jay-Z's Empire State of Mind that featured a woman vocal singing the chorus (Alicia Key's part). Most of the lyrics were the same as Jay-Z's version and Google searches will turn up only the Jay-Z version of the song. Does anyone know the name and singer of the slower version? I'm not sure which version came first. thanks. Acceptable (talk) 13:48, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

That's probably Alicia Keys' own version of the song, Empire State of Mind (Part II) Broken Down. Adam Bishop (talk) 14:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that version just had a piano as a backing instrument, I think. Chevymontecarlo 16:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

That's it! Thanks guys. Acceptable (talk) 21:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

QI - the stone that always ends up on the same side

A while ago I remember seeing an episode of QI, which featured a cut-glass stone/paperweight thing, which had the unique property that no matter how you put it down, it would always rotate to be on the same axis. What was this called, and are they commercially available for purchase? pushthebutton | go on... | push it! 19:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Gömböc - available for purchase from this site. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

That's an incredible article -- to think that after millions of years of humanity, someone has invented a new shape with properties never before seen! -- Mwalcoff (talk) 00:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Why get so excited? Its merely a Roly-poly toy with a sharp edge on the upper part. Dull and uninteresting. The RPT does exactly the same. Makes me wonder if some sneaky promotion for the Gomboc product is being done. If the appeal is that it is a uniform material, then I expect that 2/3 or 7/12 of a sphere with a long thin pencil-shape sticking out of the top would do exactly the same. 92.15.0.59 (talk) 11:25, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Ghmyrtle. pushthebutton | go on... | push it! 11:40, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

It's not just a Roly-poly toy. It is a big deal that it's a uniform density. Additionally, it't a convex shape: your sphere-with-protrusion is not. If you allow concave shapes, the problem becomes trivial. Yes, it's only a big deal in a nerdy, mathematical way, but that's still a big enough deal to sell toys. Is it a "gimmick" to appeal to the nerds in the population? Buddy431 (talk) 16:37, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

British TV nature programme

This is quite an obscure question, but here goes anyway. When I was a child, in the mid/late-1990s, I watched a television programme (I can't remember if it was a one-off programme or a series) on a British TV channel (can't remember which one). It had a name like "The World we Never See" and featured things such as an ichneumon wasp boring into a tree trunk to inject its eggs into a beetle grub, salmon spawning, microscopic creatures, bees flying in slow motion, a chicken embryo developing with part of the eggshell removing so its progress could be recorded on film, and so on. The "hook" of the programme was that all of the phenomena featured were impossible to observe in natural conditions, and the events were instead filmed in artificial scenarios (for instance, the ichneumon wasp bored into a staged piece of wood that was cut so that its cross-section (and thus the grub inside) was visible, instead of a natural tree trunk. Does anyone else remember this programme, and if so, what was it called, what channel was it aired on, and when was it broadcast?--Midgrid(talk) 20:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

David Attenborough's Life in the Undergrowth showed some of these scenes, and it was advertised as showing animal behaviour never before caught on cameras, or, as Attenborough apparently phrased it "In the past, in order to get close to something, you had to pour light on it; so much so you were at risk of frying the thing - and you certainly inhibited natural behaviour," [2]. This doesn't quite fit your description though, as it was filmed after the 1990s, and wouldn't have shown a chicken embryo. That would have been in The Life of Birds which was filmed in the late 90s. ---Sluzzelin talk 21:46, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but it definitely wasn't one of David Attenborough's programmes. I would even hazard a guess that it was shown on ITV or Channel 4, but I'm not certain.--Midgrid(talk) 22:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

(Ok, sorry, as a non-Brit, I didn't know better) ---Sluzzelin talk 22:58, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

No problem! :) --Midgrid(talk) 23:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Microcosmos? Can't remember if the specific content fits, sorry. Oh, there's a 1994 documentary called "The Invisible World" - "A National Geographic video about the world invisible to the unaided eye". I bet it's that. 81.131.34.204 (talk) 03:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Neither of those, sorry.--Midgrid(talk) 11:10, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

I can remember it - but am equally clueless as to the title! I don't think it was ITV, probably C4 or the BBC. DuncanHill (talk) 11:27, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

The pdf document here has a lot of useful info, including (at page 237) a list of documentaries produced by the BBC Wildlife Unit. The one that stands out for me as matching most of your criteria (no chickens though) is Alien Empire (p.262) from 1996 - about which there is some more information here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:35, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for that! Unfortunately it isn't Alien Empire (which I also remember watching), nor any of the other programmes mentioned in that list.--Midgrid(talk) 12:40, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, at least that rules out the BBC pre-1996! Could it be any of these? Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:12, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Found it! I found a reference to the programme ("The World You Never See") on this nature cameraman's CV, and some Googling led me to this page: [3]. It was actually broadcast in 1977, so it must have been a repeat!--Midgrid(talk) 13:35, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

June 5

Lip syncing for animations

How are the up and down jaw- or mouth-movements of cartoon characters made to look convincingly as if they were talking the audio dialogue? I dimly remember long ago when this was not done very well in cartoons, now it is done much better. Is there some algorithmn that determines this, such as opening the mouth in proportion to volume? It must be a headache for the animator to exactly coordinate the mouth position with the spoken dialogue, unless some automatic way of doing it has been developed. Am I right in guessing that, when making an animation such as The Simpsons, the audio is recorded first, and then the visual animation is fitted to the audio track? 92.15.0.59 (talk) 13:03, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what comes first, the voice or the animation but you may be interested in starting at Computer-generated imagery and going from there. In some films, with such characters as Jar Jar Binks and Gollum, the real life actor playing those parts will have things put onto their face and the natural movements of their face is used to animate the character. The computer is able to pick out those bits on their face (I can't find the name for them right now) and use their positions to create the character. Dismas|^(talk) 23:32, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

That's right; the voiceover is always recorded first, and the animator animates to the voiceover. See Lip sync (and skip past the parts about live performers lip synching). Comet Tuttle (talk) 16:33, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Matt Morgan (comedian)

Anyone care to take a stab at [4] and alert the IP who asked the question? NW (Talk) 15:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

house

hey i was watching house and it llooks like Jennifer Morrison (Cameron) got written out. Is she out for good then? 76.230.210.252 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:50, 5 June 2010 (UTC).

Have you read Allison Cameron? Gabbe (talk) 18:14, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

She comes back for the episode Lockdown (House). It seems fairly permanent that she was gone, but who knows? SmokingNewton _{(MESSAGE ME)} 20:06, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

What is this song called?

http://www.roomp3.com/mp3-31858-Club_Scene-Club.html --Drogonov 17:13, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Do you know what the dialogue is from? What show/movie? That could help with identification. Dismas|^(talk) 17:34, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah it's from Hitman (2007 film) around 59 minutes. Though I've already looked at transcripts and they don't mention it. --Drogonov 18:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Science fiction film I saw when I was younger

I once saw a science fiction film a long time ago, and I want to know what it was called. My remembrance of the plot is sketchy but I do remember it going kind of like this: There's a young boy who constantly fights with his younger brother. One day he gets abducted by an alien craft and dropped back 13 years into the future. He has not aged, but his brother has, and refers to him as his 'big little brother'. They give this kid a brain scan and as they do the alien spaceship is drawn up on the sheet marking out his brainwaves. There's some other stuff that goes on...I also remember the alien spaceship being sentient with an eye that stretches down from the ceiling, and it also adopts this kid's personality. I also remember the kid finds this two-inch-tall creature that squeaks, and when he returns to his own time at the end of the film, he shows his brother the little thing. If anyone could answer, that'd be great.--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 22:06, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Flight of the Navigator, probably. Algebraist 22:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

June 6

Record release dates

How does Wikipedia ascertain release dates for albums? You seem to be able to provide more detailed info than any music site - why is that. Also, if you wouldn't mind clarifying how you came up with January 13, 1969 as the day Dusty in Memphis by Dusty Springfield came out I'd appreciate it, as it contradicts allmusic's March 1969 date.99.27.217.251 (talk) 01:02, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Sports organisations- non-governmental?

There are many governing sports organisations in Australia- for example the Australian Rugby League, Netball Australia, etc. My question is what role does the government (federal, state) play in these organisations? I assume they are non-governmental.

Thanks in advance, 110.174.151.109 (talk) 02:32, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

If you're talking about Association football, FIFA's rules prohibit involvement by governments in sports governing bodies, and recently suspended the Greek national association for breaching this rule (and also Kenya, and Iraq). --TammyMoet (talk) 08:28, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm just asking in general- how about other sports? What is the level of government "control" in them? 110.174.151.109 (talk) 10:55, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Dennis Waterman

Does anybody have any information concerning the parentage and lineage of the adtor Dennis Waterman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.239.152 (talk) 10:21, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Not much - but.... This says that "He was the youngest of nine children in a traditional Cockney working class family." According to this interview, he "grew up on a council estate in south-west London, the youngest of nine children..." and says that he "was six years younger than the last [sibling], so I was the baby of the family." From this: "His father had been a boxer before Dennis was born and then a ticket collector and his mother made loose covers and curtains." Any help? Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:40, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

The name of the Man with No Name

I was wondering how did the expression Man with No Name come to be. In the very first film of the Dollars trilogy- A Fistful of Dollars, Clint Eastwood's character goes by the name Joe.--^Nilotpal42 16:37, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

According to Roger Ebert's review of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, "Eastwood's character, the famous Man With No Name, was an invention of the publicists; he was called Joe in the first movie, Manco in the second, and Blondie in the third." Coincidentally, there was a story about Eastwood and the trilogy in the Toronto Sun (and associated newspapers) today, but it doesn't discuss this. I guess it's just that if you are not paying close attention, he never seems to be referred to by name, and the three names that are used sound more like nicknames or something, not a real name. Adam Bishop (talk) 18:54, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure those were his actual names. There are other characters that call him those names, but I think he was deliberately supposed to be nameless. For examble, in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, Eli Wallach's character "Tuco" is the only person who calls Clint Eastwood's Character "Blondie", I had always assumed this was a bit of a slur against him, since Tuco is Mexican while The Man With No Name is American, kinda like calling him "Gringo" or "Yanqui" or "Whitey". Other characters have to address him, and at those times they use something, but I don't see from the films any evidence of these being his actual name, or even a widely accepted alias. --Jayron32 04:10, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

A bit like The Virginian, who was also a man with no name. He was always referred to simply as The Virginian.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

If you want the real-world history of it and not the in-movie history... The idea of a man with no name began with the first film, which is based on Yojimbo. In Yojimbo, the main character has no name. Why? Many people believe it is because it is based on Red Harvest, in which the main character has no name. Kurosawa has been noted as claiming that Red Harvest isn't the only book that influenced Yojimbo. The other books were narrated by the same "no name" character, The Continental Op (his job title, not his name). Now, where did Hammett get the idea for narrating his books by a man with no name? He said he wrote about real people. Perhaps he avoided using a name to avoid exposing who the real person was. -- kainaw™ 21:58, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

It would be good karma if the Man with No Name rode on A Horse with No Name. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Sir Christopher Frayling discusses this in the DVD commentaries on the first two films and states that the Man with No Name was a marketing gimmick for the US release. The gimmick suggests that the Eastwood character is the same man in each film, which is not necessarily the case from the films.

To follow on from Jayron though, Manco is also a nickname, and Frayling suggests 'Joe' is a fairly generic name applied to Americans. (For another common name used as a nickname, see Fritz). AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 15:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

The Monroes TV western

In the mid-1960s there was a TV western series The Monroes (1966 TV series) in which was featured a Native American character by the name of Jim. He was played by actor Ron Soble. Does anyone know whether or not Soble was a Native American?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:57, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Soble lived from 28 March 1928 to 2 May 2002. His obituary released by the Screen Actors Guild is listed below. (From reading this, it seems like he might warrant a Wikipedia article.) — Michael J 19:28, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Los Angeles – Screen Actors Guild National Treasurer Kent McCord issued the following statement upon learning the death of former SAG Vice-President and Board Member Ron Soble.

“On behalf of the 98,000 members of the Screen Actors Guild, our sincere sympathy and prayers go to the family of Ron Soble. Ron's tireless determination and selfless dedication to the cause of creating protections for actors as they work anywhere in the world will stand as an example for all performers of the difference one man speaking his mind can make .”

Ron Soble, passed away today after a battle with lung and brain cancer. He was 74.

Soble appeared in a wide range of programs from the 1950's to the late 1990's. His rugged, muscled appearance helped establish him as a tough guy on screen. He played supporting roles in Chisum, True Grit, The Cincinnati Kid, and Al Capone. In the early 1960's, Soble was a regular on the ABC series The Monroes, playing Indian Jim for two seasons alongside cast members Barbara Hershey and Michael Anderson, Jr. In 1966, Soble played Wyatt Earp in the Star Trek television series.

Other notable appearances on Charlie's Angels, Streets of San Francisco, Harry O, Rockford Files, Gunsmoke, Mission: Impossible, and The Virginian, among many others, kept Soble visible and engaged in the acting career that was his passion. Most recently, he played the judge in the 1999 hit Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo. He had film roles in Raw Hide, Papillon, Joe Kidd, and Navajo Run, among others.

Early in 2002, Soble was awarded the Golden Boot Award for his many roles in western films throughout the years.

Soble will be remembered by Screen Actors Guild (SAG) members whose wages, benefits and working conditions he fought to protect. In his own words, he'd been known to be "argumentative, outspoken, and occasionally confrontational." In his efforts to defend the benefits and working conditions for the working actor.

He was elected to the SAG National Board of Directors for ten years, twice being elected National Third Vice President. He was a member of both the TV/Theatrical and Commercial contract negotiating teams and served as a trustee for the SAG-Producer Pension and Health Plans for six years.

In June 1998, Soble was awarded the Ralph Morgan Award for Distinguished Service to the Hollywood Branch of the SAG to a standing ovation crowd of 600 gathered at the Sheraton Universal Hotel.

Soble was born and raised in Chicago. He began studying acting while a student at the University of Michigan. A lifelong athlete, Soble was a 1952 U.S. national champion in the running broad jump, and he won the Golden Gloves in boxing in Chicago in 1944. He played football for the University of Michigan in the late '40's, where he was graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree. He served two tours of duty with the United States Army.

Soble's commitment to fitness and passion for sports continued throughout his life. He enjoyed golf and worked energetically to perfect his golf swing. Other favorite pastimes included working out regularly at the gym and watching sports on television. Soble enjoyed lifelong relationships with friends he met in grade school, high school, and college.

Survivors include his wife of 49 years, Elynor Soble of Mission Hills, daughters Laura Soble (Eric Hansen) from the Bay Area, Nancy Soble Juetten (Steve Juetten) from Bellevue, WA, and three grandsons, Nathan and Zachary Hansen, 13 and 7, and Kyle Juetten, 5.

A memorial service will take place Sunday, May 5 at 2 p.m. at the Sheraton Universal Hotel, Universal City in the Terrace Room. In lieu of flowers, remembrances can be made to the Screen Actors Guild Foundation, 5757 Wilshire Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90036.

Thank you. Yes, he certainly does merit an article at Wikipedia. The obit makes no mention of his ancestry however. Thank you again for your help.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:48, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Theatrical run

How long does a movie run in theaters before it's discontinued? Does it vary by movie?

Americanfreedom (talk)

Yes to the second question. Movies keep being shown as long as (a) the theatre is contractually obligated to show them and (b) people are willing to pay to see them. According to this, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial didn't go home for over a year, but the mantle of longest run goes to The Rocky Horror Picture Show. (I imagine Rocky XXIV would have a much shorter run.) Clarityfiend (talk) 21:01, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Star Wars, the 1977 original, ran in my home theater for like 6 months. That's some serious "legs". More recently, Walk the Line was still showing first run in my local theater even after the DVD had been released. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Those were the days when theaters used to advertise how long a movie had been running. Often a movie would play at only one cinema in a city, and if the ads said it was "Now in its 4th month" there, you knew that a lot of people liked it. Today we have more screens showing fewer movies because the same movie opens at all the multiplexes simultaneously, and the publicity is about "opening weekend box office" instead, which only measures how much people liked the pre-release advertising. Here in Toronto 2001: A Space Odyssey played at one cinema (the Glendale, the only one in the city equipped for Cinerama) and it ran there for over 2 years! --Anonymous, 02:14 UTC (edited 03:14), June 7, 2010.

Pathetic! Those figures pale into insignificance when stacked up against the heavyweights of Indian cinema. Sholay and Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge stacked up multiple years of continuous runs; according to our article DDLJ - released in 1995 - completed 750 weeks of continuous play (almost 15 YEARS!) earlier this year, I'm pretty sure it's still showing. Sholay keeps getting re-run every few years or so as well. And these aren't new audiences either, this is simply just people going to watch the movie over and over again. Zunaid 11:23, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

No, the above-mentioned Rocky Horror still wins: "Still in limited release 35 years after its premiere, it has the longest-running theatrical release in film history" Rmhermen (talk) 15:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Rocky Horror is still running? Great Scott! :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:40, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I think one of the longest recent US runs was My Big Fat Greek Wedding which had a "first run" of 52 weekends—a full year!—in 2002-03. cmadler (talk) 12:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

There are far more movies released in theaters now than there used to be. So, they are quick to replace a movie with a new one. It wasn't that long ago (less than 20 years) that movies would regularly stay in a first release for many months. It didn't even have to be a great award-winning movie. Something like Crocodile Dundee would have an initial release of 4-6 months. What I found interesting was the 1-day release. If a movie had no sales on Friday, it could be pulled instantly. It is hard to remember the titles (since they were pulled so quickly). One was 52 Pickup. I remember that because we joked about it being 52-card Pickup. Another one I remember was a very poor remake of Rear Window. I believe it starred Steve Guttenberg. Nobody bought a ticket to it, but two ladies came out of the theater halfway through and asked for a refund. -- kainaw™ 17:47, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

June 7

looking for a song

It was produced in 2000 - 2003 , and the lyrics are:" I'm looking through those glass of ?pain? ..oooooohhhh " , these are the only vocals in the song, and this is trance / techno song , and also largely instrumental. Probably an remix but im not sure. 85.220.44.42 (talk) 13:30, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Comic obscenity

Years go I watched a black-and-white documentary about a nightclub comic who replaced every word in his act likely to get him in trouble with the authorities, who were stated to have been in the club at the time, with a completely innocuous word like "elbow". (The word may even have been "elbow" but I am not sure of that.) I thought the comic was Lenny Bruce, but I can't find a reference to such a performance. I tried George Carlin, and was equally unsuccessful. Does anyone know of whom I write and what the documentary was called? Thanks Bielle (talk) 18:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

_{This sounds like it was the inspiration for a Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie BBC sketch about replacing obscenities with made-up words. The word they used for bumhole stuck in my mind: "pimhole". --TammyMoet (talk) 18:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)}

While not a documentary, the 1974 film Lenny starring Dustin Hoffman as Lenny Bruce was in black & white.Chief41074 (talk) 19:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I can't do a proper search here at work, but I'm 99% sure it wasn't Carlin; I'm very familiar with his stuff and that doesn't ring a bell for him. As TammyMoet mentioned, it's not an uncommon trope; it was also done on an episode of Night Stand with Dick Dietrick as well, for example. I forget the specifics, but one of the "safe" words was chimichanga, pronounced as "chimmy chunga". Matt Deres (talk) 20:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Chief41074 might be onto something. Has anyone seen the film, or remembers a scene such as I have described? I wonder if Blockbuster has it. Bielle (talk) 02:51, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Both Blockbuster and Netflix have it. Dismas|^(talk) 03:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

House episodes

I remember reading about a house episode but I don't remember what it's called, or what season. I only remember that Wilson gets a team in this one to diagnose cancer or something. Can someone ID this episode? Thank you. 76.229.204.9 (talk) 19:23, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I did a quick scan and came up with nothing. To scan yourself, our article List of House episodes has links to House (season 1), House (season 2), etc, and those articles have a synopsis of each episode. I didn't see anything like the plot you describe. You can click on the individual episode articles for more detail than the synopses give. Comet Tuttle (talk) 19:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Wilson_(House_episode) is Wilson-centric, and the team get involved in a case for Wilson's friend. Vimescarrot (talk) 21:00, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Seeking a "historically informed" CD of Beethoven's 9th Symphony

From the wikipedia entry on Beethoven's 9th Symphony (in the "Notable performances and recordings" section):

"There have been various attempts to record the Ninth to come closer to what Beethoven's contemporaries would have heard, such as recording the Ninth with period instruments. Roger Norrington conducting the London Classical Players recorded it with period instruments for a 1987 release by EMI Records (rereleased in 1997 under the Virgin Classics label). Benjamin Zander made a 1992 recording of the Ninth with the Boston Philharmonic Orchestra and noted soprano Dominique Labelle (who first performed the work with Robert Shaw), following Beethoven's own metronome markings. Twelve years later after Norrington, Philippe Herreweghe recorded the Ninth with his period-instrument Orchestre des Champs-Élysées and his Collegium Vocale chorus for Harmonia Mundi in 1999. Sir John Eliot Gardiner recorded his period-instrument version of the Ninth Symphony,[21] conducting his Monteverdi Choir and Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique in 1992. It was first released by Deutsche Grammophon in 1994 on their early music Archiv Produktion label as part of his complete cycle of the Beethoven symphonies. His soloists included Luba Orgonasova, Anne Sofie von Otter, Anthony Rolfe Johnson and Gilles Cachemaille. An additional period-instrument recording by Christopher Hogwood and the Academy of Ancient Music was released in 1997 under the label Éditions de l'Oiseau-Lyre."

I believe such recordings/performances are called "historically informed". I'd like to find a good "historically informed" CD of Beethoven's 9th Symphony to give to my Dad, who loves Beethoven, especially the 9th. However, in trying to shop for such a CD (on Amazon or wherever), I'm having difficulty identifying which CDs are what I'm looking for. For example, I can find a CD like Beethoven Symphonies 1-9 or Beethoven: 9 Symphonies, but are these the recordings I'm looking for? I'm afraid that when it comes to shopping for classical CDs, it's hard for me to tell which CD is likely to be a good choice, and which is likely to be a poor quality recording, or in this case, just the usual non-historically informed performance.

Any help anyone can provide would be most appreciated.

Thank you!!!

--Jedikaiti (talk) 23:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

The recordings by Norrington, Gardiner, and the others mentioned would certainly qualify. I looked to see if the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment had released a Beethoven 9th yet, but apparently they have not (there are reviews of a live concert in April 2010 here). I haven't heard any of these recordings so can't vouch for their quality. Does your dad like "period instrument" recordings (aka "historically informed...")? Personally I've had mixed results; sometimes they are unbalanced and out-of-tune, and I find their accelerated tempos for Beethoven to be unmusical (there's a bit of debate over whether Beethoven really meant his metronome markings, since they are often bizarrely fast, compared to what we have become accustomed to). You may be able to listen to clips from some of these online before deciding, but any of these ensembles fit the bill.

There's a New Yorker (?) cartoon I saw once, that showed doctors clustered around a patient on the table in an operating room. One was turned towards the viewer, announcing: "We will perform this operation using period instruments." Antandrus (talk) 03:27, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

He hasn't expressed any particular interest, but he's bloody impossible to shop for, and I think he'd enjoy checking it out, whether he decides he likes it or not. Do you think the CDs I linked to are what I'm looking for? I honestly don't know, does Norrington JUST do "historically informed" or might these be more conventional? Thanks! Jedikaiti (talk) 04:17, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

June 8

Despicable Me

The trailer seen here on youtube, has an instrumental trumpet riff, that sounds like a classic from the past. Can anyone help me identify it? --Preceding unsigned comment 02:09, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

"Casino Royale" by Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass from the 1967 movie of the same name. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Once again, please help me find this bouncy children's tune.

Listen to the whistle and identify the tune, please.

I listened to this tune long ago, and I don't know the title or artist. I have whistled and recorded it onto Midomi. Would you please tell me what it is (or at least where it came from) once you've listened to it? Thanks in advance. --Let Us Update Wikipedia: Dusty Articles 23:07, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Who the Hell is this ???

Please see the 1976 Signet (US) edition of Carrie by Stephen King. Turn the paperback. You see the back cover, OK? You see on the top a photo of a girl (face and upperbody) covered in blood. Presumably it is the titleur character playing the role in the the book's TV/Film adaption, probably some younglady or teenage gal...by all rights it should by some actress called Sissy Spacek...but look closely..especially the eyes...if I am right you may be in for a shock !! <email redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jon Ascton (talk • contribs)

Email address removed to deter spammers per the instructions at the top of this page. Please return here for your answers.

Since I don't own a copy of this particular edition of the book, and you haven't told us who you think you've seen, it's a little hard to help. Is it this actress? If so, it is indeed Sissy Spacek, whose roles in *Badlands and then the 1976 movie of Carrie launched her career. Her eyes are very distinctive and recognisable, so if you put "Spacek Carrie" into Google Images and compare the results to your book cover you should be able to work out whether or not it's her. The 1976 Signet paperback was a movie tie-in edition, so any photos on the book cover are unlikely to be anything other than stills from the film itself. Karenjc 08:23, 8 June 2010 (UTC) *added Badlands - it really launched her career, but Carrie's what she's largely associated with these days. Karenjc 08:33, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

song

whatsthe song at the beginning of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZMs9GoAdt8

that the guy comes out to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexsmith44 (talk • contribs) 08:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

It's some American rap song (just for the information of others who can judge whether they might be able to help). 81.108.236.17 (talk) 08:09, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Ice Cube, What Can I Do? meltBanana 12:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Name of a novel

I'm trying to remember a novel that I read a while ago. It was about a boy in his late teens or so living in an archaic-like society into which the government in there severly limits technology because of fear of some kind of revolt. The town is simple and surrounded bu uncharted forest. The boy happens to want to be an inventor when he grows up, so he designs a lamp to present to the council. They reject his design however, and he seeks to get away from the town. He meets and falls in love with a slave girl, and wishes to escape into the forest with her. While working with his lamp, he rediscovers electricity when currents make a dead frog move. With this new technology, he soon decides to escape with the girl into the forest. The government however, notices his disappearance and try to capture him. The two manage to escape, and they venture deep into the forest for a few hours. After a long journey, they find an abandoned, but beautiful, modern era house in relatively good condition. They both decides to settle there and the boy plans to reinvent the modern contraptions that we know now with his rediscovered power of electricity. I don't remember the character names, but I do remember the storyline well. I just need to remember the titile and author. 64.75.158.193 (talk) 13:23, 8 June 2010 (UTC)