User talk:Magioladitis

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Question

So hopefully I did this right. I have a question and if you could either answer it or direct me where I could get an answer it'd be appreciated :) We had a school project where had to revise an article and we did the wolfgang amadeus phoeonix article and i notice yobot went on there and I'm wondering how the bots select articles? Is a random thing or what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoralDebauchery (talk • contribs) 00:16, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

sorting dates

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Thanks for the changes to parkrun wikipedia page which make date sorting work correctly without the leading zero.

I use dates with leading zeros eg 08 May 2011 because that is the format given in Help:Sorting shows us that this is the way to do it.

Are you able to edit the Help:Sorting pages too? Or who do we need to notify? I ask because if the Help:Sorting page is not fixed, then leading zeros will continue to be added by many mode authors.

Thanks Roger — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.98.118 (talk) 12:53, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Rjwilmsi knows better. I'll discuss it with him and we \ll take some action. Thanks for the heads up! -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:55, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Roger adds... Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.98.118 (talk) 13:06, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Check this

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See you there... --Paddy (talk) 18:07, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Never mind. --Paddy (talk) 16:19, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I didn't have much time to look at it. Thanks for initiating the discussion though! -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Yobot 17 module problem?

When {{bio}} is on a talk page with no listas, the module/AWB will not add a listas parameter. It adds a listas under every other conceivable way the bio banner is spelled. I'm not sure if it is doing this 100% of the time as I'm not paying attention when it works. Bgwhite (talk) 21:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I suggest you rename bio to WikiProject Biography. There are only 10-20 transclusions of it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:42, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

It renames {{bio}} just fine and I add listas in manually. Just didn't know if it should be yet another biography variant added into the code. The {{bio}} tag is being added to new articles at a higher rate than the 10-20 you have seen. Of course, all the (#*$)@ variants is a story for another day. Oh, thank you for a new release of AWB. Yobot19 has gone thru the sections I had previously cleared out for weird names ... around 10,000 articles done by the bot. It is so nice to see letters A-F mostly empty. A second thank you for allowing me to use your code/bot. Bgwhite (talk) 19:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

This redirect has been retargeted some times and it is rarely used. So I don't think we should take any further action. I hate changing the plugin's code every time someone comes with a new cool name for a redirect. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:23, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Request for Yobot

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I’m not sure if it’s better to leave this message here or in Yobot’s user talk, but I see that leaving a message for the bot temporarily stops it from running, so I guess I’ll leave it here.

In February Yobot visited the William Beebe article, and cleaned up the references by combining duplicate refs, where the article cited the same page of the same book more than once. [1] During the time since then I’ve added a lot of content to this article, and it now has around three times as many references as it did in February, but since Yobot hasn’t edited it again only the first third of its references have the duplicate references combined. Is there a way for you to get Yobot to revisit this article, and perform the same cleanup for the rest of its refs?

Thanks in advance. --Captain Occam (talk) 18:00, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm being a talk page stalker today. I visited the page with AutoWikiBrowser (AWB), the program Yobot uses. References should be cleaned up. The article also wasn't assessed, so I updated the article's talk page. Bgwhite (talk) 18:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I was trying to get it reassessed also. I guess I can remove it from Wikiproject Biography's requests for assessment now. --Captain Occam (talk) 18:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I've got one other question about the references in this article, for either Magioladitis or Bgwhite. At some point I'll want to turn the references in it into links, so that clicking the link will take you to whatever book is being cited in the article's bibliography. I know how to do this manually, but it would probably take over six hours to manually convert every reference in an article that has over 250 references. Do either of you know whether there's a bot that can handle this task also?

If there isn't, I might make a request here for someone to create a bot that can can do this, but first I should make sure there isn't an existing bot I'm not aware of that can do it. --Captain Occam (talk) 00:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm not aware of a bot, Magioladitis would be the one to answer. There are bot/tools to fix citations broken citations. Alot of the references could be combined. For example, references 60 and 61 could be combined. 60 is pages 126-128, 61 is pages 129-130 and only a sentence separates them. You should really take the article thru the Good Article (GA) procedure as the article screams out for it. If you want to go thru the pain and misery of Featured Article status (FA), you should do that after GA. One problem is the way you have done references. It is highly suggested to use templates if you goto GA/FA. Here are the templates. I took Jordan River (Utah) thru the misery of FA and you can use that as an example. Also the templates make it very easy and less time consuming. By copying and pasting, you could have the article cited as you wanted in 60-90 minutes. I just converted the Berra book over to a template for you to see as an example. Bgwhite (talk) 03:46, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I definitely plan on nominating this article for GA status eventually, but before I do that I’d like to put this article’s references into the best format, once I’ve figured out what that is.

Are you sure you think it would only take 60-90 minutes to convert all of the citations to use the harvnb template? I’ve discussed this with the person who wrote the article about this book, and it took her a few hours to convert all of that article’s citations. (She used a different format for the references in that article, but the amount of time it takes to convert each citation seems like it would be about the same whether it's using the harvnb template or another format.) That article has 57 citations. I might be able to convert them faster than she did, but even if I can convert one citation per minute, for 278 citations that’s still more than four hours.

I know how to use the harvnb template; this is just a time issue for me. I don’t mind spending a few dozen hours researching and writing an article like this one, but when I have limited time to spend at Wikipedia, I’m not sure I want to spend it converting almost 300 references into a different format. --Captain Occam (talk) 04:24, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

To change a reference: 1) Use "find" in your browser to find the next author's reference (say Gould) 2) Delete the reference between the ref tags 3) paste in the harvnb tag 4) change the page number 5) move onto the next reference. It is a fast procedure. Took me under a minute to change all of Berra's. You'll spend more time change the the books/journals in the reference section over to templates. I've got 30 or so minutes to spend in an hour or so. I'll help ya move some of the references. Bgwhite (talk) 05:32, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Howard M. Guttman

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Dear Magioladitis:

I sent the message below to you on May 17th, and I've been checking to see if you have answered. It is now in the archived section of your talk page. I don't know if that means that you will no longer be answering queries in that section, so I thought I better ask again. Thank you, Dale Corey I contacted you last week to inquire about whether or not I could add a link to another person's article without their permission, in order to de-orphan my article. After receiving your response that I would, I went into an article on Frances Hesselbein. The subject of my article, Howard M. Guttman, contributed a chapter to a book edited by Frances. I listed Howard and all the others authors who contributed chapters, some of whom are very well known in the field of management development. First, I tried to highlight Howard's name and create a link to his page. I got a message saying that the page doesn't exist. I then highlighted the names of several other notable authors, including Jim Champy (James A. Champy), Noel Tichy, and Dave Ulrich. In each case, I was told that the wiki page did not exist, although I had just visited it and copied the URL.

Am I doing something wrong? Can you please help me? Thank you very much, Dale Corey 69.19.14.31 (talk) 15:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)Dalecorey (talk) 13:10, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice message. The page appears to have three incoming links so it's not anymore orphan. If you want to add more wikilinks to other pages linking to Howard M. Guttman I propose that you check WP:EGG. I am not sure where the link should be placed in the authors you mentioned, so I can't help further. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:28, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Another Wikipedia editor, SPhilbrick, was kind enough to add the links for me and explain how to do it. Thank you again, Dale66.82.9.54 (talk) 15:25, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Template:Infobox GAA player

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Hi. I notice that you have removed my additions to Template:Infobox GAA player and I'm curious as to why. I've been trying to merge Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer with Template:Infobox GAA player for the last week or so and had got to the point where the merge was almost complete. My plan was as follows:

1. Add the elements in Template:Infobox GAA player missing from Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer to Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer.
2. Go through pages using Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer and fix any that have been adversely affected by this (there weren't many, so it was easy enough to do)
3. Copy the dual player elements missing from Template:Infobox GAA player from Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer to Template:Infobox GAA player
4. Give things a week or so to throw up any problems (there are more pages using Template:Infobox GAA player than is feasible to go through on my own)
5. After a week, given that there are no problems, redirect Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer to Template:Infobox GAA player

I was at part 4 of the process and notice the changes were reverted on 31 May. Possibly you were unaware of the merge effort (After all, I hadn't tagged the pages as being suggested for merging). Alternatively, you may have found pages that were adversely affected by the changes made, or have an objection to the templates being merged. If there are pages adveresely affected, it would be good to know which ones and why, and if there's an objection to merging, then it would be good to discuss it. I would appreciate your comments at Template talk:Infobox GAA player#Merging Template:Infobox GAA dualplayer and Template:Infobox GAA player. Thanks. Teester (talk) 12:28, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Errr. it was a mistake!!! I like th changes you did! I'll fix it. I only wanted to remove some old parameters. I guess I edited an older version without noticing! -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:39, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

No problem. That's what I thought. I'll continue merging them, so. Teester (talk) 12:58, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Just a heads up

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I know that you have been working a lot with Infoboxes so I wanted to throw you a notice about some edits I am going to start soon. I have identified about 5000 articles within WikiProject United States that do not have infoboxes so over the next month or 2 I am going to devote some time (and hopefully others will help as well) to adding Infoboxes to these articles. I am going to use the core Infobox person but will follow up with military person and or officeholder as embedded modules as appropriate.

Because I will be doing this with an AWB custom module and refining it along the way along with manual checking and because this will cross thread multiple WikiProjects I will be doing them in groups (I will start with military personnel because MILHIST is a large very active project that will cover a lot of them) and notifying them as I go. I am not going to paste every field of the Infobox, just the core ten or so like name birth date, death date, etc. and some may be blank on the first pass.

I have also been working on some code to remove some of the unneeded, deprecated or seldom used fields (if blank) and I will gladly release the code once I get it a little more flushed out. Because this is quite complicated and will involve another long module like the WikiProject cleanup I do not anticipate it being 100% error free so I want to make sure its as fool proof as possible before I start handing it out.

If you have any suggestions or comments please let me know. --Kumioko (talk) 18:45, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Very good idea. I would suggest you bring the subject to the botreq page even if you do manual because some people may want to check the source code. Doing it with AWB is a very good idea. Tell me how I can help with that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:23, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I already have some of the code written but I am going to build on it. I am having a little trouble with a couple things that I haven't been able to completely switch over to the module. The regex works on the Advanced find and replace but when I try and use the same thing as module code it doesn't work. Very frustrating. I have a couple of other things I am trying to wrap up this week but once I knock those out I will start devoting more effort to this task. I will put the code somewhere later so you can take a look at it. --Kumioko (talk) 18:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Be aware that 5.3.0.0 has broken Advanced F&R rules. They are fixed in the latest snapshot (rev7756 or later). -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:17, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I saw that thanks...By the way I recently saw a tag that I thought might amuse you just for fun. --Kumioko (talk)

This tag is one of the big truths here in Wikipedia. the number of taggers is much bigger of the number of people who actually fix the problems at the moment, or at east it seems to be like this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for the barnstar. It felt like I accomplished something when names A thru F were cleared out. It is going much slower now. I've been doing H by hand because of the massive Arabic, Chinese, Icelandic and old Japanese names. One of these days Mandarax and I will be finished, plus whoever else is helping out. Bgwhite (talk) 23:56, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much!

Thank you very much for your contribution in improving the page Cláudio César Dias Baptista.187.13.71.100 (talk) 12:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Recent change to Infobox MLB player

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I think you should know your recent change to the infobox {{Infobox MLB player}} results in the "Died" parameter always showing up, even for living people. Obviously, that shouldn't be the case. Thought you should know so you can fix it or revert. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 16:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Fixed for good this time. Please confirm. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:21, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Template:Single Infobox

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I noticed this edit by Yobot. As Template:Single_Infobox did not exist (I've since created it as a redirect) this broke the infobox, which resulted in the deletion of an image and an audio file (since they appeared to be unused as a consequence of the breakage). As you are an admin, perhaps you could undelete these files, as well as those deleted as a consequence of similar Yobot edits on Shut Up (Kelly Osbourne song), Showgirl (song) and How Could I Be Wrong (and perhaps other articles). --Zundark (talk) 16:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the report. The wrong redirect issue was fixed since April and I though I have fixed all broken redirects. I'll see what I can do. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:43, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Restored 4 images and 1 audio file. Judging by the pages transcluding Single Infobox and but the reverts I have don in April I think we saved all files. If I missed something please contact me. Thanks again for the report and for creating the redirect. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:53, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring?

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Eh... You seem to have left an edit warring warning on my talk page re: attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, a page I haven't edited since april, what gives? Dbpjmuf (talk) 19:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

I meant Prince Ludwig Rudolph of Hanover. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Deletionism

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Dear Magioladitis, good day. I saw some deletions you've done in En Wiki's pages. Deletionism is not a good policy. There are informations which should be repeated in more than one page; if that is repetition of text, that is also a great help, avoiding time consuming and fatigue to the reader and avoiding also massive processing in En Wiki's server. Regards.187.13.30.222 (talk) 09:59, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Replied in Portuguese page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:01, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Request about page Multi-touch

(YahooBot (talk) 13:17, 9 June 2011 (UTC))

Hello dear Magioladitis (Yobot),

please review Multi-touch. It's looking like user:Alexanderaelberts trys to promote links of his own websides (SEO). I am new on Wiki and don't know how I can deleted this changes from user:Alexanderaelberts.

Sincerely, (YahooBot (talk) 13:17, 9 June 2011 (UTC))

John Chapman

FYI, see here. Frietjes (talk) 23:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Unsubstituting templates

Since Yobot 15 is a similar type of task, I figured you might know the answer to this: is there a bot currently running on WP that unsubstitutes templates in Category:Pages with incorrectly substituted templates? Given that the page has only ever had a few entries on it most of the times I've checked, I'm inclined to think that there is...or that there are a lot of users monitoring the page like I am. On the other hand, I've unsubstituted substitutions that were nearly 24 hours old, which would tend to argue the reverse unless it's an infrequently-run bot. – RobinHood70 ^talk 01:21, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't know. I 've seen people doing this manually based. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:55, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks anyway! I'll just keep doing it by-hand until someone tells me I don't need to. :) – RobinHood70 ^talk 00:58, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I just spotted this edit, so it looks like SmackBot de-substs at least some templates. – RobinHood70 ^talk 23:00, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I thought it was Rich making these changes manually. IF he created some logic for that it would be great. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:00, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Yobot: 4th of July-->4 July

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Hi, this is a really old edit, but just a note that Yobot changed "4th of July" to "4 July", thinking it was an "ordinary" date. I've changed the article to a piped link to Independence Day (United States), hopefully that will be enough to stop this or other bots from changing it back again? Forgive me if this has already been addressed. Cheers, Valfontis (talk) 23:20, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Very good job. The wikilink prevents the date of changing. I didn't know that AWB had this feature! -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Peter O'Donnell

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Please check your edits - you had him dying in the year 200 ! I have corrected the date. RGCorris (talk) 20:10, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Ooops. Thanks for the heads up and fixing it! -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:57, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Laughology

Hi, Yobot added a second period after a quote that had a period inside the quotation marks: here. Thought I'd better report as a glitch. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)Re

Thanks! I'll see how we can fix it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Arkansas Territorial Militia

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Would you run Yobot on this article, Arkansas Territorial Militia. Thanks! Aleutian06 (talk) 20:47, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Done. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:10, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

You do fine work! Thanks!Aleutian06 (talk) 21:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Robina Suwol Wikipedia

CentralAbe (talk) 03:44, 17 June 2011 (UTC)Central Abe on June 16th, 2011 New Wikipedia.Added following references below to the Robina Suwol page. {http://www.cityofcalabasas.com/environmental/carl-gibbs.html) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Mothers,_teachers_concerned_about_leukemia_deaths_at_California_elementary_school {http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/09/12/18658541.php] http://apps.cdpr.ca.gov/schoolipm/school_ipm_law/ab_405.pdf http://www.firstamendmentcoalition.org/2009/10/first-amendment-coalition-names-free-speech-award-winners-and-one-loser/

Seldon Hunt

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thanks for the advice wasn't aware that was the case. Dan arndt (talk) 08:36, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Dave Lapp

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Is it just the lack of an infobox on this stub that triggered the wikify tag?Cloveapple (talk) 01:47, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I think the ratio of wikilinks is low but I am not 100% sure. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:58, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Ok. It has 4 links in and 4 out now so I took it off. Cloveapple (talk) 20:30, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

++

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What does ++ mean? Dismas|^(talk) 10:53, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I usually use it for "follow up to the last edit". -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:57, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I see. Thanks. Dismas|^(talk) 10:58, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Automated template edits

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Magioladitis, I've noticed recent your edits on Template:Infobox college coach, and wanted to ask you about the feasibility of doing some automated edits to some more fields in the template. I'd like to edit a few of the field names to remove some of the ambiguity in them, e.g.:

• Title → CurrentTitle
• College → CurrentTeam
• Conference → CurrentConference
• Years → PlayerYears
• Team → PlayerTeams
• Position → PlayerPositions
• FootballHOF → FootballHOFYear
• BBallHOF → BBallHOFYear
• CBBallHOF → CBBallHOFYear

Is this something we could do with Yobot? Thanks for you help. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I can do this but first you have to leave a message somewhere in template's talk page to check whether are any disagreements. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I posted a message about this on the template's talk page five days ago, and haven't had any objections. This list for fields to be renamed has grown though:

• Title → current_title
• College → current_team
• Conference → current_conference
• CurrentRecord → current_record
• Years → player_years
• Team → player_teams
• Position → player_positions
• CoachYears → coach_years
• CoachTeams → coach_teams
• AdminYears → admin_years
• AdminTeams → admin_teams
• OverallRecord → overall_record
• BowlRecord → bowl_record
• TournamentRecord → tournament_record
• CoachingRecords → coaching_records
• FootballHOF → CFBHOF_year
• CollegeHOFID → CFBHOF_id
• BBallHOF → BASKBHOF_year
• BBallHOFID --> BASKBHOF_id
• CBBallHOF → CBASKBHOF_year

Can we run with these? Thanks. Jweiss11 (talk) 19:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll start tomorrow most probably. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Jweiss11 (talk) 21:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Magioladitis, I see you've begun to run these edits for Infobox college coach. Can we make another run through and clean up the spacing so that the equal signs line up vertically? That would make things a lot easier to read and maintain. Thanks. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:06, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, the last three fields in the template (BASKBHOF_year, BASKBHOF_id, CBASKBHOF_year) aren't displaying in the articles, e.g. Phog Allen. The bot changed them to BASKHOF_year, BASKHOF_id, CBASKHOF_year (no second B before HOF). I suppose we could either rerun the bot to fix those field names out in the articles or just tweak them in the template. Thanks. Jweiss11 (talk) 05:27, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I changed the parameters in the template. There are 5,000 pages and I don't want to rerun on that list. I could have fixed the spacing too but now I think it's too late. Some people wait for edits like that to block Yobot and create some drama. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:07, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I'd love to get the spacing cleaned up at some point. I'd be happy to defend Yobot and make preemptive appeals to any expected complainers. Let me know if and how I can help. Thanks again for your help here. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:45, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Infobox sportsperson

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You added one { too many here (Born). --bender235 (talk) 13:37, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks! -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:43, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Code update

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I updated the WikiProject code again. I added another couple projects that I ran across. I added all the projects I had previously commented out because I was finding several were getting added. I also resorted the projects to be in alpphabetical order. --Kumioko (talk) 18:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Could you give me a ring too when you update the code. I found some minor problems.

1. WP Poland -> WikiProject Poland
2. WP Conservatism -> I couldn't find the Conservatism project in your code.
3. WikiProject Disneyland merged with WikiProject Amusement Parks
4. WikiProject Japanese Bibliography merged with WikiProject Japan

I use the code on 100-250 articles a day. The talk pages without listas is getting cleaned out. A-J and T-Z are cleaned. Around ~75 new talk pages a day come in and your code gets used on the new articles along with the remaining weird listas.

Magioladitis, whenever you have free time to go over Arabic names, just give a yell. Bgwhite (talk) 20:10, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Glad to hear its getting used and I'll get those others fixed in a few and resave it. --Kumioko (talk) 20:20, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Ok I think its fixed now, but let me know if I need to tweak the code for the 2 mergers. --Kumioko (talk) 20:42, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I orphaned WP Conservatism to reduce problems with older versions and running bots. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:47, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Cool. Yobot was blocked because I used it to get rid of the two not replaced redirects. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:20, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I saw that, sorry about that. Its a good thing we have him or else Wikipedia would go straight to ... with all these rogue editors and bots we have running these days. What do they think this is an Online encyclopedia that anyone can edit? Sheesh. :-) --Kumioko (talk) 21:23, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Bgwhite, in the future, feel free to update my code exactly as Kumioko does. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:24, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, but for now I'll pass on updating the code. In a previous life... would collect data from a couple thousand weather stations that come in from all different agencies and in all sort of formats, strip out the data and redo every 15 minutes. Regular expressions was my friend. But right now, I'll have a higher chance of screwing things up. 18:13, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Capitals

Dear Yobot operator. If you really think that this was an important enough change to make an edit, then I recommend you use a capital next time: names of Wikipedia pages are spelled with a capital. That is: {{Disambiguation}}. Debresser (talk) 16:50, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

These pages are reported to the toolserver. Currently AWB retains the capitalisation. I'll add it to my to-discuss-list with Rjw. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:02, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Good. Note that User:SmackBot also capitalizes template names. And so is my personal custom. Debresser (talk) 17:06, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Although I personally also think that capitalization is preferred some editors do not and so I believe that is why AWB leaves the capitalization that exists. Some editors had a lot of heartburn in the paste about various bots changeing the casing of things. --Kumioko (talk) 17:53, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Please see

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Could use your help at Template talk:Multiple issues#Edit request to fix problems. Thanks much! --Funandtrvl (talk) 19:55, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Please see: Template talk:Multiple issues#Edit request 5 July 2011 for more fixes needed. Thanks! --Funandtrvl (talk) 17:55, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, I did a comprehensive overhaul, so I hope this is the last update for Template talk:Multiple issues#Edit request 5 July 2011A! Thanks in advance! --Funandtrvl (talk) 23:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, I listed the parameters that would need to be added, so that they will match the template names of the stand-alone templates. Let me know if you need a certain format, or is the list okay? --Funandtrvl (talk) 23:45, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

I need you to write me down the new names introduced separated by commas (1st name, 2nd name, etc.) so I can update AWB's code too. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 23:47, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Hopefully, this is the format that you need:

primary sources, cleanup-laundry, over detailed, cleanup-spam, cleanup-reorganize, POV-check, criticism section, very long, example farm, cleanup-rewrite, cite check, quote farm, news release, unreliable sources

--Funandtrvl (talk) 00:06, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Removed: moreref, morerefs, morereferences, expand, recent, from live parameter section, since they are listed in deprecated parameters section. See current sandbox version. --Funandtrvl (talk) 14:53, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Pittsburgh Steelers seasons

Hello Magioladitis, I'm TonyO13. I'm just here to let you know that I've re-created Template:Pittsburgh Steelers seasons. The reason being that currently every NFL, AFL, and Super Bowl Championship team (minus the NFL and AFL championship teams of 1966-1969, as the Super Bowl championship trumped each league's individual championship as the "ultimate prize") has the following template sequence: (team's amount of seasons, the championship team's roster, and the team's general history template. I did it because I wanted there to be uniformity for each championship winning team. I understand that redundancy was the reason this template was deleted the first time so I will now delete the seasons tab from the general Pittsburgh Steelers template. I hope you don't mind. Thanks. TonyO13 (talk) 07:28, 7 July 2011 (UTC) TonyO13

If the seasons navbox can be used separatelly from the Pittsburgh Steelers template, then it's a good move. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:30, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Would you mind?

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Would you mind having a look at Paddy Kennedy (Sligo Gaelic footballer) and {{Infobox GAA player}} for some reason there is a - in front of his position and I can't work out where it's coming from Gnevin (talk) 13:07, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind was looking in the wrong place Gnevin (talk) 13:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Cheney Mason page...

Hello, I'm fairly new at this. I saw that there was no article. on Cheney Mason (the lawyer working the infamous Casey Anthony case), so I went ahead and started one. However, like with the Jose Baez article, I am concerned the Cheney Mason may be subject to vandalism in light of the immediate aftermath of the acquittal. Can you protect that page to a certain extent like the Jose Baez article? (I don't know how to do it.) Just a concern of mine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diligent007 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Infobox animal

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Is it worth updating birth/death params in {{Infobox animal}}? -- WOSlinker (talk) 13:20, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

I think yes. Less than 200 transclusions. I'll do it with Yobot later today. could you update the code to use Infobox class? -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:25, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

updated. -- WOSlinker (talk) 14:35, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

All params updated. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:29, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Yobot Edit summary

Yobot made this edit to the {{Infobox scientist}} in the article Michael Gerzon. It deleted the blank parameter |box_width=. Good edit; the blank parameter should not have been left lying around. However, the Edit summary left by the robot was "Updated infobox (BRFA 15) per Template talk:Infobox person/birth death params using AWB (7782)". This Edit summary is both cryptic and misleading. What is "BRFA 15"? I cannot find a mention of this anywhere; this is cryptic. Also, the discussion the link refers to makes no mention of a |box_width= parameter or, indeed, anything to do with widths; this is misleading. Please improve the Edit summaries Yobot deposits. Thank you. (If you wish to respond, please do so here.) HairyWombat 03:49, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. You are right, I need better edit summaries. BRFA15 refers to the number of the approved task. BRFA stands for Bot Request For Approval. I remove the unused/deprecated parameters and change others to their most common version (for example DateOfBirth to birth_date, which is the name used by Infobox person). box_width is not supported anymore in order to have same size in all infoboxes around. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:28, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, so why not make "BRFA 15" a link to User:Yobot#Approved_tasks? The link to "Template talk:Infobox person/birth death params" is more problematic. What is required is a link to a concensus about these tasks. You seem to be suggesting that there hasn't even been a discussion (other than of birth/death parameters). I must suggest that you initiate such a discussion somewhere. I stress that I don't have a problem with the edits the bot is performing; there just seems to be a lack of openness. HairyWombat 13:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

The choice of "birth death params" as a subpage name is problematic since the discussion there becomes more general after some point. I'll do somehting later today. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 14:22, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, the parameter |box_width= is still in both the doc page and source code of {{Infobox scientist}}. |bodystyle= width, which it uses, is also in the doc page of the meta-template {{Infobox}}. You say that box_width is not supported, but that does not seem to be the case. As long as it remains in doc pages then people will continue to use it, and your efforts to get rid of it will fail. HairyWombat 14:58, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I removed it from Infobox scientist documentation. Infobox has to have it in the case we change the width later globally. Thanks for the great feeedback. I'll try yo do as much as possible and try to write some guidelines on the matter. I have to make a to-do list probably... I didn't expect that I would take so much effort when I started this project. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:45, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

The alternative is to seek help. Reading Template talk:Infobox person/birth death params, there seems to be a group of people interested in this. Why not make your to-do list, but then push that out so that others can take up some of the burden? OK, I am done now. Bye. HairyWombat 21:38, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

WOSlinker and Plastikspork help in the project too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:41, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Heinrich Rau

Hello Magioladitis, the article Heinrich Rau is still under construction. Very very slowly, because in general, I have no time. Concerning the top picture: I find the current picture may be sufficient only in a adequate size. There are no really good picture for a top picture at Commons. Existing pictures, which would be convenient for the top, like this one are not available there. But other pictures from Deutsche Fotothek are already uploaded. Do you know, whether it's possible to upload this picture too? Kind regards Henrig (talk) 21:31, 11 July 2011 (UTC) P.S.: I see, it's no direct link. You can find the pictures there by searching with Heinrich Rau. Henrig (talk) 21:41, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for contacting me but I am not expert in photos. You 'll have to check the copyright status of the photo. I think the best place to ask is Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Also check the upload wizard to details. If you still have problems you can right me again. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Henrig (talk) 21:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Defaultsorts

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Pretty sure these defaultsorts aren't required anymore. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 13:18, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I contacted Reedy already we'll fix it soon. I activated "DEFAULTSORT restriction". Probably I have to update all my settings file. IT seems I missed some. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:21, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

rev 7784 -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:21, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

date for Multiple Issues

It keeps stuff simple to date MI too, and it is harmless. It's been happening since the template was created, it's annoying, but understandable, that AWB removes that date. Rich Farmbrough, 10:38, 13 July 2011 (UTC).

AWB removes all deprecated parameters and date if not needed too. I don't know how we solve this problem. I don't know Perl to help on that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:41, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I think you should just remove Multiple issues from your bot's list. AnomieBot fixes tags too and Yobot occasionally fixes Multiple issues. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:58, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

tracking

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Now that you've finished off Infobox person, I've added tracking to Infobox writer. -- WOSlinker (talk) 15:15, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

All the lived parameters used by Infobox military person have been split into birth_date and death_date. -- WOSlinker (talk) 17:56, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Perfect! I 'll leave a note to Infobox's talk page. We should switch the style to coincide the other infoboxes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:04, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Infobox writer finished too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:28, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Merging fields

Would it be possible for you to discuss the changes you make, rather than just re-reverting after your changes have been reverted. Merging the birth place and birth date fields makes the template look very awkward because there is not much space between the rows so it looks too squashed. Personally I also think having separate rows and titles for Birth place and Birth date is more straightforward than simply "Born". Was there any meta discussion about this, or is it just one of the Wikipedia things where one or two people have an idea and then impose it across the board in the interests of "standardisation"? Number 57 11:16, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

There is this discussion in Template talk:Infobox person/birth death params but I don;t know if it fully covers it. I 'll try to open a generalised discussion. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Removing placeholders

Consensus? Is there consensus for this? Last I saw, it was a leave-it-be thing. I'm happy to remove the placeholders, though and would prefer that it was policy. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:40, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you are right the previous consensus was "placeholders are useless but no worth to remove them" but I think now in the frame of standardisation we can remove them since we are already touch hundreds of pages. I can add it as a comment to the infobox standardisation talk page but this page is not well populated. Maybe if we leave a comment to Infobox person talk page? -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:00, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Here's a link to the discussion from 2008: Image_placeholders. If image place holders were ever needed, a better place would have been to add them at the template level rather than on articles then it would have meant that all articles without an image set would get a placeholder image instead rather than just a few of the articles, but since they are not, better to be consistent and remove them all. There is not that many really, although it's a few to many to do by hand but not a big job for a bot. -- WOSlinker (talk) 22:07, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I need someone to leave a note in WP:BOTREQ that we resumed the image placeholders removal. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:13, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

There is an active discussion in Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Image_placeholders at the moment. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:27, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Infobox musical artist categories

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I'm currently working through the band articles, removing the Born and Died params. Your bot could easily do the blank ones. After that there's quite a lot left in the other category which need more work. -- WOSlinker (talk) 20:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I already started doing the blank ones :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:42, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand, why is the bot removing these parameters? In cases like this it seems appropriate. doomgaze (talk) 21:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

They are empty anyway and |Born= is being replaced by |birth_date= and |birth_place=. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:25, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Infobox edits

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Please explain I'm not trying to be a jerk, but what is the value of removing empty, but inevitable fields in person infoboxes (e.g. death)? This just creates slightly more work later, right? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

|Dead= is being replaced by |death_date= and |death_place=. Till now death date and place information was stored at one parameter. I don't think it's much work later since now all standard parameters have the same name for all infoboxes for persons which means that everyone would be able to add them without consulting the documentation. I also have in mind to make a bot run in the future which will add birth/death information based on Persondata. Anyway, I modified the code to replace Death with death_place instead of removing it. I hope this is better. -- Magioladitis (talk) 03:42, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Just to make clear: "Dead" is not an alternative name of "death_date". Right now it contains information for both death date and place. Thus, it has to be split. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah yes I knew that. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi-Fi murders

I wonder if you might take a look at the infobox mess on this page. Thank you. Betty Noire (talk) 12:37, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I am thinking about it. I don't really know. Maybe use Template:Infobox historical event? -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:02, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Yobot flaw

Your bot has a defect in it. It recently edited Howling Bells for the purpose of updating the infobox, but it also made additional edits throughout the article, which has now wrecked half of the references. It de-italicized the work parameter in all {{Cite web}} citations, consequently italicizing all work. Mattchewbaca (meow) 20:57, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

It's not Yobot's fault. In cite web |work= must be italsied. Its documentation reads "Do not italicize; the software will do so automatically.". -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:50, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, the work field in cite web is an anomaly and contradicts itself. If you take a look here at the following examples for citing sources, it states that books, journals, newspapers are to be in italics, webpages are not. Mattchewbaca (meow) 01:12, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Signatures on Infobox military person

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Hello. Thanks for adding the signatures to the infoboxes but it seems like the one for the military person is too big and you can't change the size. See Charles Burnett Wilson. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 14:33, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Fixed now. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:59, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Removal of WildBot tags

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According to User:WildBot#FAQ, the tags are supposed to be removed by Yobot. However, since WildBot is no longer running and there continue to be many tags left, I am assuming that Yobot is not doing this task anymore. Why? — Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 21:39, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I just did 335 more right now, cleaning the current list. This is a low priority task for me. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:33, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Yobot

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Hi Magioladitis, I'm a fairly new contributor to Wikipedia, and I'm trying to understand how it works. For instance, bots. I've seen bots do what I thought were pretty radical, questionable changes. I was afraid of those bots.

Yobot doesn't seem like that. It seems to make sensible, non bullying changes. However, or maybe because of that, I'm writing you. I hope you don't mind helping a beginner with some questions.

I edited a page, Sallie Ford and the Sound Outside. Now it's been edited by Yobot.

My first observation is, some of the edits look identical to the original text. I did notice that some caps were changed to lowercase, but sometimes, such as line 22, I don't see any difference. What is the difference? My other question is, why did the bot change Dirty Radio to "Dirty Radio?" It is the name of an album, not an individual song, so it should be italicized, or underlined, shouldn't it? Is there a manual of style for Wikipedia? If so, where is it?

Thanks, Jean ±±±± — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeaniac (talk • contribs) 05:58, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for contacting. Here is an analysis of the edits:

• On line 1: Changed deprecated Uppercase parameters with lowercase parameters. In this way the infobox will use same style parameter with all other infoboxes around wikipedia.
• On line 22: Removed a comma after the reference. There was a comma before the reference too and by WP:PAIC and other Manual of Style instructions punctuation must be before the references.
• On line 66. The thing you see is not a " but a double '. This produces italics in wikicode. In general prefer wiki syntax against html code. It makes text easier to read.

I hope I helped. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thank you! Now I'm going to try to sign this with 4 tildes. Not sure why I can't get that to work. Jeaniac (talk) 00:05, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Happy editing in Wikipedia! -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:07, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Yobot and dab page

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Yobot labelled Pentagalloyl glucose as a stub, though it has {{Biochemistry disambiguation}}. Perhaps that's a dab template Yobot doesn't know about? PamD (talk) 22:45, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. You are right. This dab template was created recently in 22 February 2011 and has only 4 transclusions. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:46, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Sent to TfD. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:52, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Reply

Hi Magioladitis, I'm sorry for only noticing now that you prefer not to receive Talkback messages. In case you now assume I'll send them anyway and so aren't checking my talk page, I'll tell you here that I've responded. Also, in the future, I won't message you here regarding replies on my talk page. You can check it as you like. Armadillopteryx^talk 01:40, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

No problem. In fact you talkback messages were good because I did a lot of edits yesterday and most probably I wouldn't have noticed your first reply till today. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:33, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'm glad it worked out. I don't know whether you've spoken with Rjwilmsi yet, but if you haven't, it might be relevant to mention that the APA and Chicago style guides prefer not to italicize web page titles, while MLA does prefer to use the italics. I know that Wikipedia citation guidelines are not strictly any one of these, but I've seen mention of all of them in various places, such as at WP:FN, so I assume their conventions are at least relevant.

• APA: See section titled "Nonperiodical Web Document, Web Page, or Report."
• MLA: See section titled "Basic Style for Citations of Electronic Sources (Including Online Databases)"
• Chicago: See section titled "Website."

I hope this information can be useful. Armadillopteryx^talk 03:17, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Yobot and infobox musical artist

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I can't see a reason for this bot edit, particularly as this is an article that I just created recently and the infobox is taken directly from the current version on the template page. When I find an image to use here, the 'landscape' parameter is likely to be used, so removing it doesn't really help. --Michig (talk) 06:31, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Most likely it won't be used. A very small percentage uses landscape with a proper parameter (i.e. "yes"). At the moment only this Infobox uses landscape. It should be a "yes or nothing" parameter to avoid problems. I'll change the manual soon. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:27, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Check Category:Articles using Infobox musical artist with deprecated parameters (uppercase) and Category:Articles using Infobox musical artist with deprecated parameters (landscape). -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:28, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Can you point me to where the landscape parameter became deprecated? It's still in the template and in my view should stay there.--Michig (talk) 07:33, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Just to make clear: I don't removed |landscape=yes. The trackingcategory has only those that have a parameter other than "yes" i.e. the have no effect to the rendering of the page. Consider this cleaning more as "removing unused parameters". Now on landscape: No other infoboxes use it because image_size can be adjusted to cover it. Anyway, let's see how many infoboxes actually use it with parameter "yes" and we could initiate a discussion in infobox's talk page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Redirect on template documentation

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I undid your edit here. These lists of redirects on template documentation are very important to assist bot owners in programming their bots with all the necessary variations of a template. Debresser (talk) 13:32, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Another thing is that I think we should have a bot clean up all redirects and remove them afterwards. But that is a personal sentiment which I believe is not shared by most editors. Debresser (talk) 13:33, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

OK but this is a temporary list of redirects that pop up everyday. I think programmers should use Whattranscludshere: Moreover "Somefootnotes" was kept as "orphan, no harm". Nobody will ever use it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:35, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You seem to lean a little towards my idea of deleting part of these redirects, possibly after replacing them? Debresser (talk) 13:40, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Most of these redirects are useless but I don't agree with mass deletion of all orphan redirects because are really helpful to tag. Then a bot can fix the tag's name. On the other hand I don't agree with the mass creation of redirects. "Somefootnotes" is one of whose I would delete but it survived RfD and I am not willing to send tenths of redirects to RfD. I just think that by having redirects sections we just encourage the creation of more and more redirects which will probably not used at all. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:45, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I never considered that. That having a list of redirects could stimulate making more redirects. I always thought these lists were the results of moves and merges. And I don't think that the danger of these lists stimulating creation of other redirects is very real, to be frank. Debresser (talk) 13:52, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Check it. There are some editors actually creating redirects :) I think {{Refimprove}} is a good example. Check this for example. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:55, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Quite awful indeed. Debresser (talk) 14:04, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Some of these names are the result of great inspiration. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:08, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the exhaustive redirect lists I created a long time ago, when SB was running purely off hand-coded AWB. Now AWB covers most of them as a built in, and SB (HPB) both perl and AWB use "what-redirects-here" functionality. I tend now to reduce the documentation to 1 useful short-cut. The risks with redirect proliferation are real, I tried to explain them on one of SmackBot's BRFA's, but one participant just didn't get it and took everything as personal affront, the other took the inclusion of a long list of possible redirects (which was there because the first participant didn't understand without a concrete example - or it transpired even with one) as an affront to his bandwidth... What fun we have. Rich Farmbrough, 01:26, 31 July 2011 (UTC).

I see. Magioladitis, that would mean, that the reason I referred to isn't true any more. So perhaps indeed some of the less plausible redirects could be removed. Debresser (talk) 17:38, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Debresser it's your call. :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:41, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Related but not really

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Could you help him with this? I think I'd have no problem with it, but you are the expert. Debresser (talk) 14:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Done. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

What is the license for uploading public domain images?

Hello. I have found a screenshot from the 1921 movie Dracula's Death, and I was hoping to upload it. It is the only known surviving screenshot of the film, so I thought it would be appropriate to add it with a caption saying "This is the only known surviving screenshot from this now-lost film", or something like that. I know how to do that, but I just wanted to make sure that this screenshot from a 91 year-old film is OK to upload, because the people who would in any way, shape or form own a copyright to the film are probably subject to the "life of the author +70 years" thing. I know I've gone a bit TL;DR here but I just don't want this historically signifigant image to be one of the many, many, many, many images to be deleted from wikimedia on a daily basis due to copyright issues. So, with the information provided, should I upload it? - Another n00b (talk) 14:38, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I asked some fellow admins to answer this question, because I am not expert on image copyrights but it seems nobody answered for 3 days. I am sorry for that. I think there will be no problem with copyright issues if you upload the photo. Give it a try. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:52, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Infobox adult biography‎ change made & to come??

I see you pushed through a change in this template to do away with the "Image:" bit. Thank you for that! I'd been half-tempted more than once to attempt that myself - just didn't know how to get all those template changes made to the articles...

In fact looking at what the Adult Biography template says now and comparing that to the generic Infobox person, there's only a couple of fields difference between them:

• gender is present in Adult. That was because the Adult Biography used to have code that handled Measurements and gender was used to handle some routing. If anything, I think this can probably be culled.
• alias in Adult is called other_names in Person. Maybe do another template change & switch??
• eye_color, hair_color and skin_color are present in Adult. Eye and hair colour can be changed these days readily and skin colour can be inferred by ethnicity. Maybe these can be removed?
• spelling in Adult, which is used to support the above fields.
• number_of_films present in Adult.

Hmm... given that list, maybe we should just ditch the Adult Biography template and move everything to the standard Person one? I wanna bounce that idea off you before bringing it to the larger WP:P* group (such as it is these days....) Tabercil (talk) 01:10, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree with your comments. In the past I tried to do some work in adult and model. Please left a note to the related project and the template's talkpage. After some days we could proceed with the changes. Removing |gender= is a good start. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:12, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Okay, P* note left at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pornography#Infobox adult biography and there was already a note presnt at Template talk:Infobox adult biography#Almost redundant to Infobox:person? on that. As you said, give it a few days for folks to respond but I'm fairly sure we'll end up making the move. Tabercil (talk) 12:28, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Infobox to wrap medal tables

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I see you are going through wrapping medal tables with Infobox sportsperson. This just seems to me like unnecessary server load for no great benefit, but assuming there is consensus somewhere for this to be done, bear in mind a couple of points:

1. While doing this, you should also add show-medals=yes to the infobox. Otherwise you are effectively locking in "yes" as the default for this parameter (suppose consensus changes that medal tables should not be shown by default, then we will end up infoboxes showing nothing at all except the date of birth, or whatever else you may choose to add). On principle, technical reasons should never block consensus.

2. Be careful of cases such as Philip Noel-Baker, Baron Noel-Baker. He certailnly deserves an infobox, but it's definitely not going to be sportsperson, despite his winning an Olympic silver medal.

--NSH001 (talk) 14:53, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Added show-medals=yes. More comments coming soon. I am having lunch right now! -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:58, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Be also aware that infobox sportsperson doesn't imply the person is an athlete. It's just an infobox to store quick information about the person. Infobox's name doesn't mean anything. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:01, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't add infobox sportsperson if there is an other infobox present in the page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:11, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Moreover, I only add to the pages that uses image placeholders i.e. the medal template is infobox-like. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:12, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Paring down excess parameters

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Please see: Template talk:Multiple issues#Edit request 01 August 2011. There are 6 parameters there that could be moved into the depr. paras section. I'll keep a lookout for the articles that drop into the maint. cat. I know you're at wikimania, I'll be patient! --Funandtrvl (talk) 01:58, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Done. See you soon. :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:08, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit on Talk:Brian Herbert

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I just wanted to make sure you knew that both "blp" and "living" can be used in the parameter (see this edit). ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:37, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I know. Someone added "living" a couple of days ago. Since this wasn't discussed in the talk page and the edit summary isn't that descriptive most likely the bots will get confused and it will result in duplicated parameters. I was thinking of a minor cleanup. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:05, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Doh

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Please disregard the previous message - I had tricked myself with WikiBlame into thinking that Yobot had added vandalism to an article when it was actually an IP [2]. causa sui (talk) 19:39, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

No problem. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:31, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Infobox handball biography

Hello!

First of all I would like to say a big thanks for tidying the infobox – it looks much prettier than before :) However, as a checked out some bios, if there is no data given for the national years parameter, then the national team and matches/goals did not appear. I do not know whether it is my mistake (browser, etc.) or something is wrong with the template? Could you please check it? Thank you!

And regarding this issue, since you look experienced in this area, could you offer something how to fix the int. app./goals to be aligned to the right side of the infobox? Because as of now it follows closely the national team with only a small separation and I think it looks a bit ugly and a bit messy.

A third thing is that I just plan to cover the running season of some clubs and would like to ask if it would be possible to add an optional "current season" parameter to the handball club infobox? I really don't want to steal you valuable time as you definitely have a lot to do, but it would be very much appreciated. (Or a redirect to someone who is home in the topic.)

Thank you, Thehoboclown (talk) 12:29, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Sidor Artemievič Kovpak ancestors on the run for assassination

Me and my brother Sibirian Artjom (named after Sydor's father Artjom) we are the youngest of the four Great grand anserters of Sydor Kovpak. We need help and or life is in danger. My father has made for us a social program this program is of social effort and is the fight to rescue Missing children in the Ukraine in or name! For this we survived assassinations and now we are in a situation that needs attention of all who are involved in Sydor’s vision and heroics acts for the Russian and Ukrainian people. I ask can you get in contact with us to listen to or story. Or email is 1400heroes@gmail.com and Verrazzo@hotmail.com