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July 14

Spam email?

Hi all.

I am wondering if anyone else has received this e-mail from LedZeppelinFan1970gmail.com. It has obviously been mass-mailed, because I don't listen to Led Zeppelin music, maybe I've fixed a typo on a Led Zeppelin-related article, but not on that article itself as far as I can see and I don't think my "passions would fit well" in a community that annotates Led Zeppelin songs. Arcandam (talk) 03:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

spam email?
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Hi there, my name is Shar, I'm a huge Led Zeppelin fan and I realized you've contributed to wikipedia articles about Led Zeppelin. I wanted to ask for your help in annotating Led Zeppelin's songs and songs of any other bands through a browser-based mp3 player I made with a team of music lovers called www.color.fm So far our community has annotated 17 of Led Zeppelin's songs and annotated even more for other bands. These annotations will appear as you're playing your uploaded copies of these songs. You can create an account on www.color.fm and submit annotations to help our community reach our goal of annotating all 81 of Led Zeppelin's songs and songs of other bands! We use an audio identification technology so whenever someone else in the world is playing their copy of a song, regardless of the filename or id3 tags of their mp3, the annotations you wrote appear on their screen as the song is playing! We created a fun and easy to use annotation builder so you can share what's beautiful or special about any of your songs. Hopefully you could contribute to www.color.fm! If you have any questions or need help finding your way around don't hesitate to email me, I'd love to help you out. -Shar staffcolor.fm ================== P.S. Sorry if this email comes across as solicitous, I just thought your passions would fit well with our community at www.color.fm and wanted to reach out to you. I won't proactively send emails like this again. Thank you for your time =) Unfortunately I will NOT be checking my wikipedia talk page and can only be contacted exclusively through email.

Ignore email if you think it is a spam! Was it directly sent or through Wikipedia? --Tito Dutta ✉ 05:56, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

BTW, I have searched in Google, and there is no search results, I don't think he is a known spammer! --Tito Dutta ✉

It was sent through Wikipedia. OK. I deleted the email. Arcandam (talk) 06:44, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Mist net

What does the italicised second part of the sentence "Sometimes, a particular species can appear in the mist net often because they are easy to catch or the species enjoys being caught for various reasons such as protection or an easy way to catch prey." in the article mist net mean? Arcandam (talk) 03:49, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

This desk is for answering questions about how to edit Wikipedia. Meanwhile, the Science Reference Desk is for asking science related questions. So, are you asking because you think there may be something wrong with the article or are you asking about the mist nets themselves? If the latter, the Ref Desk is the place for you. If the former, could you better explain what you feel is wrong with the article? Dismas|^(talk) 06:36, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, I am asking because I think there may be something wrong with the article, more specifically with that particular sentence in that article, because I do not understand what it means. Does it mean some species (other than humans being silly) enjoy being caught in a mist net? That seems rather unlikely. And the reasons that are provided to explain the fact that some species enjoy being caught are even more puzzling: what kinds of species think getting caught in a mist net themselves is an easy way to catch prey? Does the author mean that birds fly deliberately into mist nets to catch prey that was also caught in the same mist net? Why would any animal seek protection in a mist net? Arcandam (talk) 06:50, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree that the text in the article is unclear: the use of "enjoys" is very odd (who knows what a wild species "enjoys"?) and I wondered whether the sentence might be vandalism. But using Wikiblame, I find that the whole paragraph was inserted (without references) by User Wildlifegroup3 last November, which suggests that it was in good faith. They also inserted the section Banders, which is also unreferenced, and appears to be from personal experience. You could ask them on their talk page to explain the sentence (and give references!). --ColinFine (talk) 08:57, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Wildlifegroup3 edited between 21 November 2011 until 1 December 2011 for a schoolproject and has used a talkpage once so I think it is unlikely that she will respond. I'll send her an e-mail. Arcandam (talk) 09:08, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

The word "enjoy" does appear odd for an encyclopedia. Without knowing the subject, I assume the idea is that some species deliberately fly into the mist net so they occur there more often. They may see the net and think it's more solid and offers protection against weather or predators, and predators may see already caught animals and fly in to hunt them. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:34, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Requests for Comment

I seemed to have missed an RfC regarding changing the way that references are used in the recent deaths pages. I can't even find the history of the decision making for this. I do not know how I can be a part of these RfCs when I would have wanted to vote on some of them. The RfCs are not always pushed to all users (it seems). Just what is it that I'm doing wrong? Nasnema  Chat  08:13, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

At Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia policies and guidelines I found an RfC at Talk:Deaths in 2012#RfC: Red links. There I found a discussion at Talk:Deaths in 2012#References format, which points to Talk:Deaths in 2012/Archive 2#RfC: Should we use references, but that seems to have resulted in no change. I have to admit I am also confused. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 09:28, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your time - I could not see where this decision was made or how or why. It's not as if there is a need to have multiple use of references on the page, except for a plane crash with lots of celebrities. So now it is impossible to use my smartphone or just make a one-click to source. Nasnema  Chat  18:34, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Searching inside edit window

Resolved

Is there a way to search for all instances of a specific word on a page inside the edit window? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 09:34, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

You can use the search button of the advanced editing toolbar. It also has a replace function (as in "search and replace"). benzband (talk) 09:59, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I found that this doesn't really work for what I want to do. Please see section below. Moot now, as I resolved the issues. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Amanda Smock

Hello, I am Amanda's mother, Beth Thieschafer. Corrections to her information is as follows: Amanda was born on July 27, '1982' She was married in 2009. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beththieschafer (talk • contribs) 11:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I have corrected Amanda Smock. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Why I cannot upload mp3 files on Wikipedia

Why I cannot upload mp3 files on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunnysinghthebaba (talk • contribs) 16:23, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Help:Sound file markup It looks like you need to convert to .mid or .ogx file. Commons has a how to page. .ogg will probably be the easiest. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Software --Canoe1967 (talk) 16:28, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

It's interesting that the original question of "Why...?" wasn't answered. I've often wondered the same thing. The rest of the online world uses mp3s pretty universally these days. Why not Wikipedia? HiLo48 (talk) 23:14, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken, it boils down to two things. First is that ogg is open whereas mp3 is not. Second, mp3 is lossy whereas ogg is not for audio. Those are the two details that jumped out at me after reading the leads to both the MP3 and Ogg articles. Maybe someone else can point us both to a WP guideline page. Dismas|^(talk) 23:33, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Here's the guideline, and here's the discussion that led to the decision. It seems to be largely about open source vs patent, as you surmise. - Karenjc 15:09, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

How can I convert mp3 files into ogg file

How can I convert mp3 files into ogg file — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunnysinghthebaba (talk • contribs) 16:29, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ is a very popular program, and free. Just open as mp3 and 'export' as .ogg I think.--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:32, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Batman: Earth One

Hi, this article about the 2012 DC Comics graphic novel Batman: Earth One, needs to be labelled as a stub. However, I can't find any stub either for comic books or graphic novels. Please help.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 18:13, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

{{DC-Comics-stub}} seems best. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:19, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 19:19, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors: suggesting a Chinese version

Administrators

By any chance, that anyone of you can contact the Chinese Wikipedia administrators to set up a Chinese version of Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors page? Even Chinese language has its own sets of rules on grammar and format, that might need copy-edits.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Is it a good idea to ask that question to an experienced user on the Chinese Wikipedia who understands English? Arcandam (talk) 21:21, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, I just left a brief message to the Chinese Wikipedia Help desk for my suggestion. That's all I can do at this point.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 00:58, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Please delete my artical

Please delete the artical "User: Mazi Ngozi Ottih" I do not wish for this information to be made public. I tried to delete this information myself, but was unsuccessful. Thank you for your time and help. Sincerly, Mazi Ngozi Ottih — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.253.68.169 (talk) 21:04, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

@Mazi Ngozi Ottih: I deleted the information on that page. Arcandam (talk) 21:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

@Everyone else: I am pretty sure this person is who he says he is. Arcandam (talk) 21:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Undue Weight and Recentism Regarding a Politician

A recent edit of a politician's wikipedia page was deleted citing undue weight and recentism. According to definitions provided on wikipedia, undue weight means that articles should not give minority views, and recentism is writing or editing without a long-term, historical view, thereby inflating the importance of a topic that has received recent public attention.

It is a fact that this politician has a long history of making outrageous statements, these outrageous statements have have been frequent and have occurred over a period of several years, these outrageous statements have been verified through numerous authoritative sources, these statements have been describe as outrageous by numerous sources, and the politician has never denied these statements and in fact has refused to apologize. As such, how it this undue weight and recentism?

It is a fact that such statements have occurred frequently and over a long period of time. As such, this is a long-term characteristic of this politician and is not just one or two isolated recent events. It is a fact that numerous sites have reported on this behavior describing it as "outrageous." As such, this is not the viewpoint of a minority.

Is Wikipedia only presenting superficial information or a complete picture of this controversy concerning this politician?

And, if this is undue weight and recentism, how does one present facts without this characterization? What if instead of citing one source, numerous sources are cited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.186.187.171 (talk) 21:49, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Allen West (politician). It may be useful to read Niteshift36's comment on the talkpage, especially this part: "If you have specific items to discuss, then please present them. If all you have are vague 'we need a controversy section' suggestions, then you'll find little support". Find a couple of reliable sources about Allen and make a proposal on the talkpage. Arcandam (talk) 23:06, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

• In addition, you aren't being ignored. The fact is, over half a dozen different editors have removed that (or similar) information in the past couple of days and several are addressing your questions on the talk page. You've had several policies suggested to you and it doesn't appear you've read some of them. For example, nobody has disputed that West said what you claim, yet you insist is is being denied. Then you stated you would "compile a more thorough list" to establish what you call a "significant and consistent pattern". That shows you still haven't read WP:OR or WP:SYNTH and gives a strong indication that there is more of an agenda involved here. Niteshift36 (talk) 17:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

July 15

Help finding picture for page.

Hello,

I am in need of a website where I can get a picture that meets wikipedias copyright standards for the comedian, Tom Cotter.

The following is the page for which I need the picture:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cotter_(comedian)

If someone could either add a picture themself to Tom Cotter's page, OR give me a good website which has a good picure of Tom Cotter it would be much appreciated.

Thanks, 01:15, 15 July 2012 (UTC)01:15, 15 July 2012 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristianMartin0624 (talk • contribs)

You could ask Tom or his agents to donate a photo with the correct licencing for Wikipedia to use it. There's a link on his web site. RudolfRed (talk) 01:18, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

It is very unlikely that you will find a photo of him anywhere on the web that meets Wikipedia's constraints. --ColinFine (talk) 17:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

• http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OTRS has the how to. It can get wierd though. First you need a file name after you upload the image that the BLP wants. Then the copyright holder sends an email with the file name. Commons may be best if they want the image used for other language wikipedias. The BLP maintains personality rights so it is hard for anyone to sell stuff and use his image. The copyright holder has to allow other uses but can legally require 'attribution' to himself as the original creator.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:14, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

wrong photo uploaded by third user!

My name is Liliana Arrieta, (user Lairol) I'm a grand-daughter of General Domingo Arrieta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domingo_Arrieta_Le%C3%B3n

This photo uploaded by user User "Tatehuari" on 03/15/2007 is WRONG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Domingo_Arrieta.JPG

This is the REAL: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Domingo_arrieta.jpg

Could you please help me to change the wrong by the real one? I can upload more pictures of the REAL General Domingo Arrieta if you feel hesitant of my request. Thank you very much in advance.

Regards,

Liliana Arrieta — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lairol (talk • contribs) 04:16, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

It looks very much to me like two photographs of the same person, but taken 20 years apart. In any event, the photograph you point at as the correct one has very good provenance, being from the collection of the Library of Congress, and is a much cleaner photograph than the one in the article, so I have replaced it. By the way, normally a request like yours should be made at the Spanish Wikipedia (their help desk is here). This help desk is generally for English Wikipedia issues. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:56, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

It appears to me the concern is about the article here at the English Wikipedia, based on the first two links in the post. Why is this a Spanish Wikipedia issue? RudolfRed (talk) 16:57, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Good catch, my mistake editing while tired . When I navigated to the photo link it is to the local display on the Spanish Wikipedia of the image in Commons I saw only the what links here link, which was to the Spanish Wikipedia article (which I fixed). I never noticed the local link here:-( I've fixed that as well.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:31, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

life insurance

After paying three regular ins. premiums, two different policy holders finds that both of them are declared illegal policy holders on the strength of their signatures as their original signatures are not available anywhere in the records of the insurance co & the proposal of both the policy holders were signed by some one unknown person. In other words, two different policy proposals are signed by one person other then the actual policy holders. Can you pl advise what are the legal rights of both the actual policy holders. Can they demand insurance co. to declare both the policies as NULL & VOID and claim the full amount of premiums they have paid ? Of course, the claim will be submitted only after confirmation that both the proposals were signed by one person other then any of the actual policy holders. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.49.66.238 (talk) 05:10, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

We cannot offer legal advice. Please see the legal disclaimer. Contact a lawyer. - Purplewowies (talk) 05:39, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Citing a researcher by name?

When reporting a statement of fact based on cited research, is it preferred or not to qualify the statement with the researcher's name/affiliation? For example, does Wikipedia prefer statements such as "The research of Dr Smith at Foobar St University shows that giraffes are on average 18 feet tall" vs simply "giraffes are on average 18 feet tall"? (With each statement followed by <ref>reference details</ref>, of course.) 71.185.49.67 (talk) 11:36, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

In a stub article, citing the researcher by name might unbalance the article, and I would only recommend doing so if it were a new discovery (5th moon of Pluto), or doing so allowed hyperlink to the researcher's article, otherwise the info and hyperlinked university should suffice. In a medium article I'd follow the format of the rest of the article, and in a lengthy article I'd only include the new discovery information, unless a split seemed imminent. Dru of Id (talk) 12:55, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

If Dr. Smith has an article on WP and is widely acknowlged to be one of the world's top giraffe experts it is probably ok to mention and wikilink him specifically. Otherwise just a plain statement will do. Roger (talk) 13:30, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

If it's not a simple uncontroversial statement like the height of giraffes then it's often good to write who said it. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:54, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Non-free manga cover

In an article about a manga series, I want to replace the current non-free image in the infobox with another non-free image I think is more appropriate. Should I be bold and make this change or should I discuss this first? I ask this mainly because both images are non-free and replacing the current image with the one I want to use in the article would result in the current images deletion after 7 days. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:34, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

If it is a better image you could try changing it. If it is reverted then you have 7 days to reach consensus on which should be used.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

It is better in the sense that it is the actual image of the manga cover, while the image currently used seems to be the cover of a DVD. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:24, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

About my new article "Lordkipanidze Revaz"

Sincerely Dear Help Desk, I'm Your new colleague, and I don't want to make a bad article for technical reasons. Please complete the improvement of this article, If it is necessary. Please, reply me: when will finish of publication of my article?. I believe You completely and pray for Your HAPPY future and popularization of significant relations and cooperation.--Lia Palavandishvili (talk) 09:00, 15 July 2012 (UTC) Talk:Lordkipanidze Revaz From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Sincerely Dear Administrators, I'm Your new colleague, and I don't want to make a bad article for technical reasons. Please complete the improvement of this article. I believe You completely and pray for Your HAPPY future and popularization of significant relations and cooperation.--Lia Palavandishvili (talk) 09:00, 15 July 2012 (UTC) Lordkipanidze Revaz From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article includes inline citations, but they are not properly formatted. Please improve this article by correcting them. Lordkipanidze Revaz (was born 1965, 7 Jan., Georgia, Batumi) is Georgian economist, Doctor of Economics and World Economy, Gold Medalist. Revaz Lordkipanidze {{1.Information about Revaz Lordkipanidze - Encyclopedic Dictionary of Economics (in Georgian), under the editorship of Corresponding Member of Georgian Academy of Sciences, prof. A. Silagadze, Tbilisi, Tbilisi State University Publishing House, Publishing House "Innovation", 2005, P. 377.Economics}} graduated Tbilisi State University with Honored Diploma (1986) and Georgian AS Institute of Economy and Law (1990), St. Petersburg State University with diploma of doctor (1998–1999), was member of The Academy of Political Sciences (NY, USA) with certificate (1998–2010), winner in first Democratic choice of Georgia in center of the sea capital of Georgia - Batumi, acting minister of Economy of Achara AR (1993–1998), with successfully certify EU TACIS Project (Cleaner production, 2003), University of Minnesota (The USA, Training program, 2011). He is in Georgian Economic encyclopedia as young economic doctor. Revaz Lordkipanidze is author of publications about American role in World Progress and new World economical structure [1], stabilization of finance [2], etc. For practice of Intermoney system optimal stimulation and Macroeconomic structure marginal efficiency, R. Lordkipanidze defines The Force of economic competition approximately as The Force of electrical current. By this Law, the less are output of monopoly and excess (disquality or needless) production, the more is the force of competition. By R. Lordkipanidze's Formulation for development of EU formulate of effective ecostructural changes in operative ecopolicy E= ∑ [(Eio+Eit)/2]Δai; i=1;2;…;n

E – Effectiveness of ecostructural changes in t time; Eio – Effectiveness of i element of structure for start of t time; Eit – Effectiveness of i element of structure for finish of t time; Δai – percent change (:100) of i element of used resource's structure in t time; i=1;2;…;n – element of structure (branch, region or age group of technique, etc.).

This formulation of R. Lordkipanidze has different interpretations in conditions of crisis and if E≥0.[3]

Revaz Lordkipanidze is author of Christian Chants.[4]

[edit]References

^ 1 ^ 2 ^ 3 ^ 4 Literature: 1. Information about Revaz Lordkipanidze - Encyclopedic Dictionary of Economics (in Georgian), under the editorship of Corresponding Member of Georgian Academy of Sciences, prof. A. Silagadze, Tbilisi, Tbilisi State University Publishing House, Publishing House "Innovation", 2005, P. 377.--Lia Palavandishvili (talk) 13:50, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, there are three things I will say.

1. It would be best if you could submit this to the Articles for Creation page.

2. From this post, I believe your first language is not English. Based on the person you are writing about, I guess your first language is Georgian, so your contributions would be welcome at the Georgian Wikipedia.

3. What are these "technical reasons" you speak of? Do you know or are you connected to the subject? Andie ▶(Candy)◀ 15:56, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Lordkipanidze Revaz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The text here is a copy+paste of the text from Lordkipanidze Revaz. I think it needs cleanup by someone fluent in both Georgian and English. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Katya Bachrouche

Katya Bachrouche attended North Farmington High School in Farmington Hills, Michigan (not Virginia as stated in Wikipedia). She graduated from the University of Virginia in 2011 with a degree in Psychology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.164.125.11 (talk) 16:23, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Changed Rojomoke (talk) 16:48, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Top-importance articles disappearing

You can see in old page version that in the recent weeks I have changed 6 articles to top-importance. All of the articles appear at Category:Top-importance Chicago articles. This page version from before I added the six articles there were 52 top importance articles. There are currently only 54 top-importance articles according to Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Chicago articles by quality statistics. What has happened to the other four?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:22, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Request comment

I'd like to request comment on automated edits I've made, (this was requested by the Warriors Wikia in Special:Chat) - are these fine? WarriorsWTransfer (talk) 18:06, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

• Special:Contributions/WarriorsWTransfer

I am afraid they weren't fine, those articles weren't notable and were all deleted under the WP:CSD#A7 speedy deletion criteria. Please do not recreate such articles in the future. ----Addihockey10 ^e-mail 18:19, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Easy way to draw people to a discussion?

I proposed a split to an article two and a half months ago, and nobody has made any sort of comment on it. Is there an easy way to draw people to discuss about it (beyond the tag that's already on the article itself)? - Purplewowies (talk) 18:22, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

What is the article in question? If there is a WikiProject into the scope of which the article might fall, perhaps try to ask there. You could also start an RfC about it. I found we have Wikipedia:Proposed mergers and Wikipedia:Proposed splits redirects there. I never used proposed mergers myself and I don't know whether it should also be used for splits. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 18:39, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Sociological and cultural aspects of autism - Purplewowies (talk) 18:46, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Given that the topic of the article (and of the proposed new articles after the split) are very specialized, I don't expect much people would have an opinion on the split. My advice would be, go to the page history of the article and look for people who contributed a lot to the article and drop them a message on their talk page asking for input on the split. User:SandyGeorgia seems to be a main contributor from what I could see from a quick look at the history. Apart from that, I'd try the venues I mentioned above. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 19:02, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

facebook and group site that are causing vilontce against an individual

I have on a number of occations reported groups that are making up things against an individual these groups are causing riots due to the things they are putting on the site about this person that is not true they call him a peadophile which is fulse invormation what do I do next — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.137.226 (talk) 18:34, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Unless this has something to do with Wikipedia, it is not something we can help with. If there is a connection to Wikipedia, please explain it, otherwise sorry we could not help. Monty₈₄₅ 18:40, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I would assume that facebook has a webmaster, contact email, and some sort of BLP policy. You could try those. If it is wikipedia then ask for page protection?--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:55, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Move articles to talk page.

Recently I had to prune an extremely large article. It was so large that making any edit at all was locking my browser. In order to make the edits, I split the article into sub article and edited those. Having used the sub articles to re-create the original (now pruned), I would like to retain the split articles for reference (so that other editors can re-instate material if they think I went to far for example). Since the articles were created by me and have not been signaficantly edited I would be within my rights to sppedily delete them. Would I be within my rights to move them to sub talk pages of the main article (with hind sight, this is what I should have done in the first place). One of the articles is under a deletion discussion and it looks like concensus is going to be to delete. Op47 (talk) 18:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

It would help if we knew what pages you mean. Are you referring to August 2010 in sports? Nyttend (talk) 19:34, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic

I was just reading your article on chiropractic which seemed to be pretty well-informed. I was a little thrown, though, by the last sentence in the Intro (or first) section: "A systematic review found that the risk of death from manipulations to the neck outweighs the benefits.[35]"

I have been to a chiropractor several times over the years and always had amazing results, as have my friends/family that referred me. I found this sentence a little scary (like if I was reading this article for the first time prior to seeking chiropractic treatment, I might think twice) so read the article cited to justify this sentence: Deaths after Chiropractic: A review of published cases. The article actually states that there have been a total of 26 reported cases of death from chiropractic since 1934 (that's 26 deaths in 78 years of published data). Also, there were only 10 cases where the death occurred within one day of the treatment--the article states that the rest of the fatalities occurred up to 58 days following the treatment (not sure how linked the two can be with this amount of time--almost 2 months--passing between treatment and death).

I'm writing to Wiki to see if this sentence can't be deleted from the posted article...it seems really misleading to me and I know a lot of people read Wiki to get basic info on a subject and I would hate anyone else to be thrown by such a misleading sentence when the rest of the article seemed so well informed/impartial.

Ab9735 (talk) 18:52, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Matters like this belong on the article's talk page, not at the Help Desk. For that reason, I've copied your comments to Talk:Chiropractic; you can find them (along with any responses) in the section of that page called "Copied from the Help Desk". Nyttend (talk) 19:33, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Delete a redirect:File:The Legend of the Condor Heroes (cover).jpg

Hi, can anyone delete the file redirect of the renamed file File:The Legend of the Condor Heroes (cover).jpg? Thanks.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 19:57, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Unless it qualifies for Speedy Delete, you should post the request at WP:RfD RudolfRed (talk) 20:00, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

The redirect is nominated for discussion at RfD and Neo now knows the procedure. Marking this as resolved. BigNate37_(T) 03:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

paragraph numbering

To Wikipedia Your articles have, near the begging, an outline format, WITH numbers-this is good. However, in the body of the articles, you have the same titles, but with the paragraph numbers not shown. Why is this? Many times I find that the numbers would help. Thank you Paul Gayet, [contact info redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.24.31.70 (talk) 20:35, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

You can click the section names in the table of contents. Logged in users have the option "Auto-number headings" under the "Appearance" tab at Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:47, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Freedom of speech for teachers.

Does the Freedom of Speech extends to teachers and professors if they feel compelled for professional ethics or in the interest of the public to make public disclosures to parents or students that the school or University in some areas or departments is not acting in the best interest of students. Is this Freedom Of Speech restricted in these settings? I am looking for laws rooted in law cases that you could cite in your article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.240.241 (talk) 21:21, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

That's skating fairly close to legal advice. If you are looking for cases, there are a number of good legal websites, findlaw.com, for example. There are also any numbers of books on the First Amendment at your local law library.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:36, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Also, if your not looking for general information and instead your looking for an analysis of whether the first amendment applies to a particular fact pattern, you would be best off consulting with an attorney licensed to practice in your jurisdiction. Monty₈₄₅ 02:41, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

http://shop.wikimedia.org/products/wikipedia-globe-sweats

please tell me who is the model wearing cloths. Gooing22 (talk) 21:38, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Is there one who is not, then?--Wehwalt (talk) 21:31, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I am asking about bald person there.Gooing22 (talk) 21:38, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

The Help Desk is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. We are not associated with the Wikimedia shop. The contact info for that group is on this page: http://shop.wikimedia.org/pages/contact-us RudolfRed (talk) 21:43, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

• As far as my knowledge is concerned wikimedia foundation is owner of wikipedia.also, whhat i pay there helps to run wikipedia.Gooing22 (talk) 21:48, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

This picture was uploaded by User:Matthew (wmf). I think the easiest way to discover who that model is is to contact Matthew on his talkpage. Arcandam (talk) 22:18, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Why would anyone want to know the name of a model anyway? I'm getting slight alarm bells tinkering at the back of my mind here. Wesley Mouse 22:35, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that was my thought on the matter. Let's let the office handle it.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:39, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Assuming good faith here, that's Victor Grigas, Storyteller at the Wikimedia Foundation. The photo was sort of a joke at first (I got the sparkle in the mural right on the top of his head because I thought it looked cool), but when we looked at it, we were happy with it and used it for the shop. Happy to answer any other questions if you have them. Matthew (WMF) 01:21, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

TMZ

Is TMZ a reliable source? TMZ reports that Sage Stallone's recent death was drug-related, and the article cites that. Shark96z (talk · contribs) 22:18, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

You may want to try Wikipedia:RSN. There are quite a few people who asked that same question already. Arcandam (talk) 22:22, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

delete an article

How do I delete an article that I starte (it was rejected and I want the page removed completely until future notice.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssouth2549 (talk • contribs) 23:45, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

You can put {{db-userreq}} at the top of the page. Dismas|^(talk) 02:33, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I requested it for deletion for you. - Purplewowies (talk) 02:55, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

July 16

Made a mistake in the article title -- how to fix it?

In this new article USAV ''Malvern Hill'' (LCU 2025) I placed double quotes around the name of this vessel -- ideally, they should not be there. I don't know how to fix this.

The article title should be USAV Malvern Hill (LCU 2025).

Suggestions?

Cyberherbalist (talk) 05:42, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I moved it for you, though you can do that yourself, just click on the move tab at the top, slightly left of centre. Valenciano (talk) 05:49, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Ah ha! I had never seen that before. Thanks for the fast response! Cyberherbalist (talk) 05:54, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

The Move link is placed differently in the default Vector skin. See more at Wikipedia:Moving a page. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:17, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

US informationin Germany

I am an American living in Germany and I am using the English translation for the the Wikipedia web site. I am specifically looking for chart information for several American music albums. However, the Wiki page for the albums have only the German and Swiss music chart information (i.e. this album hit # 26 on the German music chart). I'm sure this is because the information is coming through a German ISP. There's nothing wrong with German music charts - just not the information I'm looking for right now. Is there a way to connect with the US Wiki site so I can get US-focused information? Thanks. 07:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)Kfoote (talk)

There is no such thing as a US Wikipedia, this is the English Wikipedia. Wikipedia is divided by language, not country. You can try searching for the artist/band in the search box at the top right of the page, but without the name of the artist/band we can't give you any more advice. Roger (talk) 07:58, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia shows the same page to all readers regardless of their ISP and IP address. If you look at an external site for information then it's possible it will be different. Can you give a link? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:14, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

How or where can i display a proposed change to a protected page.

I'm very new to Wiki Editing (a few days), i wish to propose a change to a semi-protected article's table layout. I copied the 'View Source' and compiled the table in a new format in My Sandbox. However, it doesn't look like other users can view test pages in another's sandbox.

Is there anywhere on Wiki that one can display a proposed change to an article so people can see how it looks? I think it's a great change and needs to be viewed by others who can then make their comments and opinions known.

Am i right in understanding that the main Sandbox gets written over pretty much instantly so i can't link to that? ManchesterSpeedway (talk) 09:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC) ManchesterSpeedway (talk) 10:01, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Everybody can see all pages including your sandbox. And yes, Wikipedia:Sandbox is often overwritten. If you link there then it should be to a specific version in the page history. Your account became autoconfirmed when you made you tenth edit 40 minutes ago so you can edit semi-protected pages now. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:09, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Indeed. Your sandbox is right here. Dismas|^(talk) 10:50, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the info. Someone in the article i'm involved in 'talking' about has actually linked to my sandbox, so i do realize now that one can indeed do so. I don't think i'd ever seek to edit a semi-protected page unless had advance agreement from everyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManchesterSpeedway (talk • contribs) 22:33, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Claim inactive username

Hello, is it possible to claim a username of an user which is obviously inactive and even registered without any mail-adress record? --141.3.200.149 (talk) 10:44, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

In some cases, yes. See WP:USURP. Dismas|^(talk) 10:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Greater Manchester

Hi there is an article on Swinton which begins, "Swinton is a town within the City of Salford, in Greater Manchester, England."

What is meant by "Greater Manchester" here?

Kind regards Gerard Dugdill (UK) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2002:5C29:335C:0:0:0:5C29:335C (talk) 12:26, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

You refer to Swinton, Greater Manchester which starts: "Swinton is a town within the City of Salford, in Greater Manchester, England." The blue or purple text is links. Click on "Greater Manchester" to see the meaning. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:33, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I have removed your phone number to protect your privacy. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Colombian Cyclists

In the list of Colombian Cyclists, a cyclist was ommitted,PEDRONEL GIL GALLEGO, he lives in Miami, he is one of the "Keens of the Mountains" during 1950 and 1952 194.81.222.173 (talk) 14:51, 16 July 2012 (UTC)and he is also mention on the book by M. Randall,he is very well regarded as a cyclist as he was second and third. Please include him in the list of Colombian Cyclists.

194.81.222.173 (talk) 14:51, 16 July 2012 (UTC) 

Your sincerely.

N. Alvarez 194.81.222.173 (talk) 14:51, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

There is no List of Colombian cyclists. Could you give us the link? Regards.--GoP_T^C_{N 15:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)}

I guess you mean Pedro Nel Gil. If you refer to Category:Colombian cyclists then it's not a list. It's a category and it can only show Wikipedia articles. There is no article about Pedro Nel Gil. See Wikipedia:Notability (sports) for requirements. If you can find sources to satisfy it then you can write an article yourself. See Wikipedia:Your first article. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:37, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Please copyedit London Chorus

“ Nonetheless the number of our own promotions has declined and it is a particular sadness that, solely on grounds of cost, the annual performance of St Matthew Passion has had to be given up. We have been fortunate in being invited to sing for other concert promoters and were particularly rewarded by being asked to provide the chorus for three concert performances by the Kirov Opera under Valery Gergiev and a performance of Rimsky Korsakov's Le Coq d'Or under Rostropovich. We are also grateful to Raymond Gubbay for inviting us to sing in a number of his promotions. ” — Jharbourne, London Chorus

Someone please take a look at this article. Thanks in advance, Arcandam (talk) 15:00, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

The best venue for copyediting is WP:GOCE/REQ. Regards.--GoP_T^C_{N 15:56, 16 July 2012 (UTC)}

Blatant copyvio, I reverted it. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:03, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Where do I find the template for References?

I'm in sandbox and I don't know what it means after I use the template above to cite a book it tells me I have the ref but not the references???? Is this talking about coding? I've been reading the help pages but it just isn't clear what I'm supposed to do other than click on the templates provided and fill in the blanks. Then what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nflemin2 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, you need to add {{reflist}} to the bottom of the page in order for the references to appear. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:13, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Display the duration of a YouTube video

Is there a way to display the length/duration of a YouTube video? I would like this to be displayed next to the link to the video so users have an idea how long the video is. It seems that this information is obtainable via the YouTube API but I think that would require some JavaScript or PHP to use and I don't know how that would work on Wikipedia. We're assuming here that it is appropriate to link to the video in the first place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unjedai temp (talk • contribs) 16:54, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

{{Cite video}} has a time parameter that can be used to manually add the length. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I was hoping for something more dynamic, so that if the video was edited and the duration changed, the value would update automatically on the wiki page. Unjedai (talk) 20:09, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

So is it possible to use JavaScript on a wiki page and use the YouTube API? Unjedai (talk) 15:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The New Search Bar

Hello. I used to come to wikipedia all the time, but, alas, I fear today is the beginning of the end. When I viewed a page, suddenly, there appeared at the bottom of my page, this big ugly blue search bar for related terms. It says "related terms" as a link to automatically search those at random I supposed, then beside that "online advertising" because I just might want to click that! Then, a typical white search box. It is at the bottom of the wiki page and interferes with my line of vision, rather like having subtitles or closed captioning on when you would rather watch the movie. This bar also has to load with every page, creating a slight lag, sort of like a hiccup, where everything stops for a moment as you are trying to scroll down the page. Then, it suddenly moves but more than likely will instead present the popup message that a script working would you like to stop the script or proceed. This happens on every page and must be related to this new search box. I resent this intrusion in my wiki experience here and feel it is a cheesy and unnecessary addition to your site. Whoever decided to add it should discuss it with a board group or something and have it removed very quickly. I won't return until it is gone, the reading has become too cumbersome now and, after all, there really are a lot of different sites to go to, I had simply become accustomed to coming here. Thank you.

I also think it is ridiculous that my submission for help has to be treated like I am adding an article. I do not add articles, I do not care to nor do I know how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.79.61.133 (talk) 17:23, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't think it the wp site. Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and see if it goes away. Then try WP:HD in the search box to see if you get back to here without it? It could be an add-on, malware type thing on your browser.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:37, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I would have used a stronger word than "cheesy" for the thing you are seeing. And I agree with Canoe1967, it has nothing to do with the the Wikipedia site, some advertising malware has subverted your browser. I suggest that you install a different, new, browser, and check how the Wikipedia pages look in that. Maproom (talk) 17:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Readers#Why do I see commercial ads at Wikipedia? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:19, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Try the free version of Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware. Arcandam (talk) 15:41, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

My watchlist is screwed up

I used to use the watchlist customization feature that renders pages I haven't visited since the last change in italics. All of a sudden, it changed to displaying unvisited changes to bold display. What happened? I think the behavior of the watchlist display is controlled by the code at User:Toshio Yamaguchi/vector.css, but I didn't change anything there. I want to have my watchlist style back. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 18:09, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Mine is messed up too in a similar way. It's probably just a momentary glitch, maybe related to the database lag. Equazcion ^(talk) 18:13, 16 Jul 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Bolding_of_unread_in_Watchlist_again... Equazcion ^(talk) 18:14, 16 Jul 2012 (UTC)

I had bold, then nothing, now it's bold on its own. It appears that somebody made a "bold" change to the main watchlist CSS. It should be reverted per the RfC if someone knows what page it is. Ryan Vesey Review me! 18:15, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Page of "Annabel Jäger"

I´m very sorry. I editet the page of Annabel Jäger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annabel_J%C3%A4ger. Now is the mask disturbed. Can you help to repair the side?

Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.135.17.46 (talk) 18:56, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Fixed it for you, you just missed the closing brackets, }}--Jac16888 ^Talk 18:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Renaming an Event

Is there a way to change the title of a yearly event that is listed on Wikipedia? There is a yearly festival that has been renamed, and I think it would be good to have the title use the new name, with (formely know as...) beside the title. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Arts_Days 199.213.125.71 (talk) 19:16, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I found confirmation on the official website of the name change, so I have moved the article to Alberta Culture Days, leaving the old name as a redirect. The article still has issues, though. - Karenjc 19:56, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Age at time of death

Is it applicable to put the age of a person when they died at the end of their "Death" section? For example: "On July 16, 2012 Smith died of a heart attack. He was 65 years old." Thechased (talk) 19:38, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I think that's fine. There are some templates that do this automatically, so it should be okay to do it by hand as long as the math is correct. RudolfRed (talk) 19:43, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)This is usually handled in the infobox portion of the article. I believe there's a template where you enter the birth and death dates and it automatically calculates the age at death; and the standard is that the template and the information is included in the infobox rather than the text itself. See Wikipedia:Age calculation templates which has a list of commonly used templates for these purposes. --Jayron32 19:46, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

You may wish to see {{death date and age}}, the failed 2007 TfD nom for it, the failed policy proposal WP:DEATHAGE. I probably missed some relevant info, as well, but that ought to get you started. BigNate37_(T) 19:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Quick favor

I'm not sure whether it's my computer or the link that's the problem here, so could someone see if this goes anywhere? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:49, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Doesn't lead to anything for me too. What do you want to do with it? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 19:52, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

It's listed as an external link in Menachem Ben-Sasson, so if it's not working it should be fixed or removed, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't a problem on my end before doing anything. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

In case you want to fix anything, here is a cached version at the Wayback Machine. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:02, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll go put that in. It's happened to me a couple times that my computer just doesn't want to load a particular website, so I'm glad that's not what happened here. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:09, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I get nothing as well. Just times out for me. --Jayron32 20:10, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, the server hosting that site seems to be down. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:13, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

In the future you can use http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com to check this type of thing :) Equazcion ^(talk) 20:16, 16 Jul 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, will do. I thought there was probably some way, and now I know. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Awesome. That went straight to a new page in my userspace. :) -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:28, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Uncyclopedia

What's Uncyclopedia and what's the relationship between wikipedia and it? Xentram (talk) 20:11, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Uncyclopedia. Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:13, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

It's a parody website that has no relation to Wikipedia (except that Wikipedia is the subject of their parody). Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 21:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I think it's powered by MediaWiki, the same that runs ours. Vanischenu m^Talk 04:21, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

July 17

whats happens when u get there

what happens when u are sentenced to more than 2 years for the first time and what are u aloud to bring in with you and how do u do it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.237.10.210 (talk) 00:09, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

You should probably tell us which country you're talking about.

Note; this does not appear to be a request for legal advice. Prison regulations are not laws. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I disagree. Bringing in contraband could result in a longer prison sentence or other penalties. OP should consult their lawyer. RudolfRed (talk) 00:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

No, he said what are you allowed to bring in with you. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and anyway, the person who wants to know this should ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities, as this page (here) is the wrong place for it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:51, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

unwanted image

on the page wikipedia - John Milne - an unwanted image appeared from nowhere - how can it be removed - it is situated over edit links - preventing access Patrick.nott (talk) 01:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

It's already been fixed. Dismas|^(talk) 01:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

How to put inline references?

Shall the ref be put after a space or without any space? Which of the following is correct?

• This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, ^[1] not for general knowledge questions.

This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia,^[1] not for general knowledge questions.

The problem is that I have found in some well written articles the use of first type. Thank you. Vanischenu m^Talk 03:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC) modified on 03:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Generally the end of the sentence is best, no space is necessary. CTJF83 03:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)The second. Although I can't come up with a guideline that says it specifically right now. I know that WP:AWB changes it this way when possible though. Dismas|^(talk) 03:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your kind and immediate response. Such a situation can be found at the article catenane. Vanischenu m^Talk 03:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

It's at WP:CITEFOOT. I've removed two spaces from catenane - by hand, because AWB hasn't been taught to do this when the references use the {{Ref}} template. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Isn't it better to put the reference at the end of the phrase it supports, rather than after the comma that separates that phrase from the next? So I prefer

• This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia^[1], not for general knowledge questions.

to either of the above. Maproom (talk) 10:17, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:REFPUNC says it should go after the comma. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:42, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Special page named as an article

Hello, its me again. I have just found out that on clicking Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:Help_desk, we are going to a new article project page, which is a sub article of the real page. But in the url it is in Special namespace. However it looks outside as if it was in an article project namespace. The cool thing is that it has got a talkpage and it goes to the talk page of main one. The same phenomenon occurs for talk page too! Is this only for me? Shall we report it? Vanischenu m^Talk 03:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand what you're describing. I see a list of pages that link to the Help Desk. Are you seeing something different? RudolfRed (talk) 04:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry that I was in a rush. I incorrectly named it as article page. If you click on the link on What links here from toolbox and go to that page you can see that the tab Project page is ON. (above the term Pages that link to "Wikipedia:Help desk") (If you were on your user page the tab User page would be present instead.) It virtually appears to be a sub page of the page Wikipedia:Help desk.

Since What links here is a special page, it should have been a Special page tab. Also, unlike special pages, it has a talk page. If you click on it, the talk page of Help desk will be reached. I will clarify this more elaborately, if you want.Vanischenu m^Talk 04:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to figure out what you mean but I'm stumped. Any page that you go to where you click what links here, the tab at the top points back to the original page, in whatever namespace it is in, and the talk page is to that page's talk page. So if you go to an article and click what links here the tab at the top is to the "Article" and the talk page goes to the article's talk page. All pages in the Wikipedia namespace are described as project pages but that is just a description. They're still in the Wikipedia namespace.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:45, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I believe this is a consequence of the fact that Special:WhatLinksHere is not its own page, but rather a certain way of viewing a page. Regardless, it is my understanding that Vanischenu is pointing out the discrepancy between the way the page tabs appear when visiting Special:WhatLinksHere vs. say Special:BrokenRedirects. I've uploaded an illustration to hopefully help the point across. BigNate37_(T) 07:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Exactly. This was what I had been trying to explain. Thank you. (I am sorry for giving you misleading info). I just wondered why only what links here looked like that. Vanischenu m^Talk 08:12, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

It's not the only page: Special:MovePage also acts this way. The reason I would think is because WhatLinksHere and MovePage are specific to a particular page so they could set it up that way (and it makes sense that they did doesn't it?) BrokenRedirects and PrefixIndex and ProtectedTitle etc. all are non-specific to a single page. However, there is some inconsistency in that there are other special pages that are specific to a single pages that don't do so.Fuhghettaboutit (talk) --12:02, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you all for being kind and having patience. Now this is explained. Thank you so much. And a special appreciation for BigNate37 for uploading the image. Vanischenu m^Talk 13:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Howeber I have got another thing to hang on and keep wondering :P. Of the two you have listed here, why one virtually appears to be a subset (the second red circle in the image) while the other does not? Vanischenu m^Talk 13:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

True but the whole scheme was not set up apparently to have perfect consistency; Wikipedia, in many respects, organically evolved with different developers all having their hands in the pie. Interestingly, while the protection interface does not manifest as a "special page", it too has the "← linked name of article" just below the article name.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki license

I work for a non-profit organization and the organization has planned to create manuals using mediawiki. Should we need a GNU free license to create the manuals? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beesfamily (talk • contribs) 10:06, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The software is available free under the GNU license but how you license the documents you create with the software is your choice - it doesn't affect the software license. Manuals for internal use in an organization would usually be fully copyrighted by the organization but if you want to share the manuals with other organizations you could consider one of the free licenses. GNU Free Document License might not be the most suitable for your purposes so take a look at Creative Commons license for the variety of options available under the CC system. Roger (talk) 10:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia preserving old aspect ratio of SVG image after update at Wiki Commons

Resolved

 – Purging resolved issue. --Cvdr (talk) 20:33, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello world,

I recently created and uploaded this SVG image to Wiki Commons and used it in this Wikipedia article.

After some additional editing of the SVG image - including a change of aspect ratio - I updated it at Wiki Commons, where it is being display properly. However on the preview page Wikipedia obviously still preserves the old aspect ratio and so shows the SVG image distorted: click me - actually the HTML defines the image size as width="800" height="566" while it should be 800*381.

Any idea on how to get the aspect ratio right? Is this a permanent bug or will a batchjob realize the change in aspect ratio as some point?

Thanks

--Cvdr (talk) 10:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I did some purging on both Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons, I hope it helped. You may need to clear your browser cache. Arcandam (talk) 12:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, this apparently has resolved the issue. The SVG file is now shown properly. --Cvdr (talk) 20:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Biography of Steve Abana from Solomon Islands

This statement as mentioned by the Writer Mr. Casper Luiramo is misleading and does not speak well of the person. "He then entered business, exporting cocoa, after making money during the height of the Solomon Islands conflicts by acting at a middleman for compensation claimants" He was never a middle man for compensation claimants as mentioned here. Infact he was a victim himself. He started off his businness before the ethnic tension, and his business picked up after he won a loan contract to buy off a small shipping service.He then expanded from there and venture into other businness opportunities and eventually into politics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.151.20.118 (talk) 12:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

You should discuss your concerns on the Talk:Steve Abana page rather than here. The claims you posted must be supported by reliable sources and comply with the biography of living persons rules. Roger (talk) 12:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Steve Abana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I see that after posting here, you then edited the article to remove the "middleman" statement. That's fine; any editor may remove anything that has no source, especially if it is possibly negative information about a living person. But, as Roger says, please take care not to add information yourself unless you can back it up with a reference to a reliable source. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Looking for a specific copyright tag

Resolved

 – File uploaded with an appropriate copyright tag. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 13:41, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Do we have a copyright tag for manga covers? We have a rationale template (Template:Non-free use rationale manga cover), but is there also a copyright tag? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Could {{Non-free book cover}} or {{Non-free magazine cover}} work? The listing, as far as I know, is at Category:Wikipedia non-free file copyright tags. Ryan Vesey Review me! 12:45, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I am aware of those. I now see that it says at the bottom "Any of the following may be helpful for stating the rationale: Template:Book rationale, Template:Non-free use rationale book cover, Template:Manga rationale or Template:Non-free use rationale manga cover.", so I will use this one. Thanks Ryan. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Copyright vio ?

The page for Jordan Anderson has his now-famous letter both in image form (which I believe is public domain, due to age) and as a transcript, which I believe may be a copy vio. Can anyone check it out and confirm?--Chimino (talk) 14:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Whether or not it was copyvio I removed it. The transcription wouldn't be suitable for the encyclopedia article. If it is PD, it should be added to Wikisource. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response, Ryan. The article looks much better now.--Chimino (talk) 14:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

How do I report verbal abuse?

I was abused by a user at IP address 142.134.46.255. You can see the slander here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Altonbr#PTBO_Picture. I've deleted the info in my profile, but a record still exists. For privacy reasons, I'd like this user blocked and the history of my User page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Altonbr) erased. Please help. Altonbr (talk) 14:35, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

You can add {{G7}} to your user page and create a new one after that. It's an easier way to get all of the history deleted. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:41, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

That would not be an appropriate use of CSD G7 as there is other legitimate talk page history that is not suitable for deletion. Monty₈₄₅ 14:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes it would, he wants his user page history erased. It's much easier to request deletion and then recreate it. Hopefully Primehunter or another help desk admin can perform the revdelete on the talk page. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread and thought you were talking about the user talk page history, yes G7 would be fine on the userpage. Monty₈₄₅ 14:51, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

• (edit conflict)As for having the information removed from the page history, any admin is able to revision delete it. Admins do patrol this page, and one may act on your request here. If you want to make a separate request in case this one is missed, instructions for requesting the revision deletion can be found at WP:REVDEL#How to request Revision Deletion. As for blocking the IP, we typically only block editors for recent conduct, the personal attack on your talk page is too stale to serve as the basis for a block. Monty₈₄₅ 14:45, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Method of citing TV and radio programmes and amending citations after insertion

I have two questions to ask.

1. The citation tool only provides for websites, newspapers, books and journals. How do you cite TV and radio programmes?

2. Can citations be ammended once inserted, where, for example, a page number, or other detail has been inadvertantly ommited? If so, how?Populotradit (talk) 14:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

See Citation Style 1 for more templates. See each template documentation for all of the parameters. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:31, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Question - Ohio

Hello, I am not computer savvy, so all this edit and all stuff confuses me greatly. I use ya'll lots for checking things out and I noticed that in the Article on "Ohio" that under the history dealing with the statehood, Eisenhower was listed as doing it, in 1803, Eisenhower was born, not much of a politician at that point, I think you may mean the guy in the picture to the right of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janismarie26 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

My understanding is that Eisenhower declared the 1st March 1803 as the date Ohio was admitted into the Union and he did this in 1953. At any rate, Eisenhower was born in 1890. Hope that cleared it up for you. Andie ▶(Candy)◀ 15:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Custom CSS?

Hi! Recently, I noticed that my custom CSS that bolds/colors unread items on my Watchlist stopped working or taking effect - I then tried to add it to my vector css code, but it still didn't work. Any ideas? Thanks! Theopolisme _{TALK 15:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)}

The coding for bold seems to have changed. Try adding the code below. Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Code
span.updatedmarker { background-color: transparent; color: #006400; } .mw-special-Watchlist .mw-changeslist-line-watched .mw-title { font-weight: bold; } .mw-special-Watchlist #mw-watchlist-resetbutton { display: inline; }

Gorgeous, works like a charm- thanks a bunch! Theopolisme TALK 15:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Is it really that hard to turn this into a gadget? I assume that whatever the gadget is would modify the CSS anyways. Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The watchpage changes are also the subject of a discussion at the Village Pump: WP:VPT RudolfRed (talk) 17:24, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Personal Reference?

My page isn't being created because I don't have enough references siting my information. I have tons of reference websites supporting my work, but I also worked with the parent of the person I'm creating the page for, so I'm wondering how do I site a personal reference? Do I just put her mother's name or how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HelloStranger24 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The short answer is that you can't. The information you provide has to be verifiable by other editors, so just listing the mother's name wouldn't help (though an interview with her conducted by a third party would be helpful). It may also be useful to read our conflict of interest policy. Andie ▶(Candy)◀ 16:42, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Only published material can be referenced. Roger (talk) 16:44, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I can't find my page

Hello, Yesterday I open an account and a page, but I can't find the page. What is the problem? How can I see it? The name of the page is Arcangeles

Arcangeles (talk) 16:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Arcangeles, I believe you are looking for User:Arcangeles/sandbox. Just make sure you are aware of our conflict of interest policy. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:30, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately your username is in violation of the rules governing usernames, specifically the rule prohibiting usernames resembling those of organizations. Please change your username so that it does not represent any organisation. Only individuals acting in their personal capacity are allowed to edit Wikipedia. The procedure for changing your username is explained here. If you need more help don't hesitate to come back here. Roger (talk) 16:56, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

SAFEMODE

I cant get my computer to run except in safemode. Even when it gives you a choice of 3 different safemodes to start in & RUN WINDOWS NORMAL, I can click on run windows normal and it still boots in safemode & is very slow. Although it will perform in every program except play my music or let me view my pics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.126.182 (talk) 19:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, this is the help desk of Wikipedia, a free online encyclopedia built by volunteers from all over the world via the internet and this help desk is only for questions about using and editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing by clicking here and then posting your question / problem description again. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 19:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Reference hovertext

I just found that hovering over a footnote inside the article text triggers the display of a Reference tooltip. When had this been enabled? Did the activation of this feature result from this discussion? Where was a consensus reached to enable this by default for all users? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, at least I found out how to disable it

My preferences/Gadgets/Browsing (the bottom checkbox at that section)

Just in case this is useful for someone else who happens to stumble over this section. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:22, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Question on my article that was on speedy delete

Hello, I had created an article on shawlsmith london, it is the only company to internationally produce and distribute scarves in the city of raleigh and the entire state of north carolina. The article was speedily deleted citing A7. THe facts that I have mentioned already signify the importance of shawlsmith london to the city and state of raleigh and were not included in the article. Their designs mix british sophistication with southern charm which also does not exists in any brand in the world. Each year they recruit many new interns from the south who are able to use their platform to become better leaders. None of this aformentioned information was in the original article. And I ask what more significance would the article need for it to be undeleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uamalik (talk • contribs) 20:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC) Uamalik (talk) 20:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

What was missing was evidence that the company was notable. And indeed a Google search suggests that it is not - the first 30 hits for "shawlsmith london" included no third-party reference to it. You should also read the Wikipedia conflict of interest policy. Maproom (talk) 21:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

How about #9, its from celebritycafe.com if that's not third party what is? and numerous others which fall under "the first 30 hits" which are just online retailers which carry the brand. And the second page also falling within the first 30 hits is yacoubian your statement seems a bit biased because there are many other hits that are from thrid party companies that are not shawlsmith london. How about the notable fact that it is putting a small southern city on the map with accounts in major retail stores such as Neiman Marcus, Barney's etc. How much more notable does it have to be? Please advise as I have read the policies and spent a lot of time and effort on this article to be completely dismissed. For a person to learn about the city of Raleigh is this not something of notable value to them? In fact two separate publication sources thecharlotteobserver and wakeliving had published about shawlsmithlondon but those sources where not given because the material was either not used or was in print and not online source. I happen to know of the ceo becuase of his involvement in my surrounding community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uamalik (talk • contribs) 21:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC) Uamalik (talk) 22:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The notability guideline for businesses and organisations is at WP:ORG. The general notability guideline is at WP:GNG. The company must satisfy one or the other to merit an encyclopaedia article here. Celebritycafe.com appears to be a listings site. Listings are not "significant independent coverage", and nor is the fact that various websites offer the copmany's products for sale. Selling things made in a small city to big national shops does not make a company notable. What you need is articles about this company. Newspaper or magazine articles, tv coverage. Real news or features, not advertising copy or press releases, which verify the company's achievements in terms of the criteria in the notability guidelines. This will provide you with the evidence of notability you need. - Karenjc 22:23, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Karenjc for that simple yet informative answer. The company had articles written about it in a couple news affiliates that are in print and I was not able to get their information which is why I did not use them as a source. I will rewrite this article when I do. Thanks once more for the best answer I had gotten yet.

Spin Along

I was on spin along in the 60s with my youth club how do I see a programe at that time please ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.3.23 (talk) 21:43, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello. This page is for questions about using and editing Wikipedia. Knowledge questions should be asked at the reference desk. I think this one probably belongs at the miscellaneous section. That being said, your question is not very clear, at least to me, and a quick search did not reveal what you are referring to. So I suggest that when you ask at the reference desk, you try provide some clarifying detail: what was "spin along" and where geographically was this programme offered? Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)A record of the program may no longer exist. Many of those programs were produced by local TV stations, many weren't preserved on video tape or kinescope, and even if they were, they may have been wiped or erased as the station may have recycled or reused the recording media. There is a huge part of television history before about 1970 where there is no known record. --Jayron32 21:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

NRHP articles & references

Hi, I have a question about NRHP articles and another question for references. I've done a fair amount of poking around Wikipdeia, and I've discovered the "edit", "history", and other buttons and places and policies like the "manual of style", but it seems like the manual of style is a general guideline, and doesn't have many specifics for the topic I want to write about, NRHP. How should that type of article be designed / written? My second question is how do references work and how should they be used? I clicked the edit section button for a references section on an article, and all it had was "

" - but the main article edit button shows things within the same type of $\wedge$ that match the references, between ref tags formatted like HTML. Can this be explained? Thanks TheSilentJay (talk) 21:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the references part of your question, I think your best bet is to start at Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. Regarding not seeing the citations when you clicked edit on the references section, there is a template which is dedicated to explaining just this matter. Please see {{Edit refs}}.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

pronunciation button isn't working

Greetings, I've always been able use the pronunciation button to hear how a word is pronouced. But now it has stopped working? Its not a sound card problem. I'm running Win XP. Can you tell me why this isn't working anymore? And what I can do to get it back working? Thanks John Hailey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.117.148.58 (talk) 22:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

• Do not provide your email address or any other contact information. Answers will be provided on this page only. BigNate37_(T) 22:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

How to sort My Watchlist

I was wondering if Wikipedia had plans in the works to facilitate the sorting of articles on my watchlist. For example, I would like to see them sorted by "date added," "category/genre," and other possible configurations, besides the standard alphabetization. Omnispo (talk) 22:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)Omnispo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omnispo (talk • contribs) 22:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Information

I was trying to find out some information on a product called Kand/ice distributed in Boise,ID. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.197.217.113 (talk) 22:56, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. RudolfRed (talk) 22:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Private persons' name stated in article without consent

Dear Sir/Madame,

I fear that my name and identity has been stated in a Wiki entry, which was deleted in 2008, yet is still visible and reference by your logs and by "wikigrains". What is the process to get this false information permanently deleted?

Thank you, M