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Article renaming discussion

You are invited to participate in a discussion at talk:Dietary element § Article should be Dietary mineral. Only four editors have been involved so far, and while they agree the article should be renamed, they disagree about the best new name. YBG (talk) 04:26, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Tarte tropézienne, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Please weigh in at Talk:Tarte_Tropézienne#Capitalization of Tarte Tropézienne. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:31, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Rye, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:07, 11 July 2016 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Category:Gluten-free restaurants has been nominated for discussion

Category:Gluten-free restaurants, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:42, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Importance assessment in this WikiProject

Hello. I notice that products of regional fast food companies are given high importance ranking in this WikiProject's assessment.

Can someone say more about how importance rankings work here? I imagined that if something was ranked as "high importance", then it would have global relevance or at least represent an entire culture.

Here are some example articles currently ranked as high importance.

• Burger King products
• Nathan's Famous
• McDonald's legal cases

Why is regional fast food ranked on par with articles like these?

• Japanese cuisine
• Grapefruit
• Tin can

Jerem43, you had comments about this elsewhere. What is the relationship between importance and global relevance here? Blue Rasberry (talk) 11:26, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello BR, these companies are by no means regional. McDonald's, Burger King, and Starbucks are major, multi-national companies with close to 70,000 aggregated locations across the three firms that generate billions in annual revenues. McD's (31,000+ locations) and BK (15,000+ locations) are the two largest fast food burger chains globally, and Starbucks is the largest coffee chain globally (24,000+ locations). Nathans is also a global chain hot dog chain and is the largest hot dog fast food chain in the world (1,500+ locations).

What I believe your failing to understand is that WP:Food covers not just cuisines and the cultural aspects of food but also the modern food service business (restaurants, manufacturers and retailers), food safety and legislation (McDonald's/Burger King legal cases articles, FAT TOM), food-related media (FoodTV), food science (pH, Water activity), et al. The importance ratings reflect this broad coverage of food related coverage. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 17:04, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

RM notification 13 September 2024

Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Cooler (alcoholic beverage)#Requested move 25 July 2016, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, — Sam Sailor ^Talk! 18:12, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Category:Somalian cuisine has been nominated for renaming

Category:Somalian cuisine has been nominated for renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. —  AjaxSmack  00:14, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

2 questions

Based upon the last sentence in the 2nd lead paragraph of beta-Hydroxy beta-methylbutyric acid, does this article fall within the scope of this WikiProject? If so, what importance ratings should be assigned to it?

Secondly, does this project have a style advice page or does a MOS guideline subpage exist that corresponds with this project's scope? Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 05:17, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

@Seppi333: Sorry for the late reply. (So to speak -- a very late reply :/) For the first question, it's not a foodstuff and it's only related to a bit of a type of food -- it's kind of like putting chemicals under our scope since it's in wine and whatnot. As for the second question -- I and the other project coordinators will work on it; but it'll take some time, as we've never pulled a stunt like this before. Thanks for the idea! WikiPancake ^{✉ 📖} 13:50, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Big deletions on okra

A whole section titled "Regional preparations" on okra was deleted today. The assertion was that they were unsourced, however, there are so many food articles similarly written, I wanted to post a notice here. How different regions typically prepare a particular food would seem typical information for an encyclopedia.

Additionally, a couple years ago, user Alexbrn removed a section titled "Medicinal properties", asserting it was weakly sourced even though the deleted paragraphs appeared sourced. What is Wikipedia's policy regarding medicinal uses of foods? Are such sections directed to be removed specifically to avoid making health claims for particular foods?

I even find myself wondering if the two deletions, in spite of the two year period, are somehow related. If an unfamiliar food is used for particular health reasons, how it is typically prepared in various regions of the globe would seem educational, and a desire to censor such information should be resisted.

I'm not as active as I used to be, and am not sure I'd like to invest the time to challenge the deletions, nor is it my area of expertise.

Gzuufy (talk) 02:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

The general guidelines for anything dealing with medicine is WP:MEDRS. Be aware however that there is a group of editors that have a very particular view of WP:MEDRS when it comes to food, Alexbrn being one of them, it appears to be their view that basically all medical usages of food falls under WP:FRINGE, regardless of the quality of research done on the subject. You may be able to get things that don't adhere to their particular view of what is medicine and/or medical research but that IS well sourced in review papers in reliable medical journals and/or well sourced as being a folk practice regardless of actual medical application by placing it under a folk medicine or medical research section or something similar and being very careful with wording. Asking in Wikiproject medicine to get more objective editors can help.

The typical regional preparation probably shouldn't have been removed, though additional citations are needed. Falconjh (talk) 22:19, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Cracker peanuts?

I seriously cannot find the article for those peanuts that are surrounded by a cracker-like shell. (Example brand: Nagaraya) Does the page just not exist? I've tried Cracker nuts, beer nuts and Nagaraya. 203.177.20.172 (talk) 09:42, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

• Check out Cracker nuts, which I just created. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:36, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
  • So is that what they're actually called? Cracker nuts? 116.93.23.41 (talk) 08:54, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
    • From my research, I believe so, per what reliable sources report. For example, Google News presently has no results for the phrase "cracker peanuts" (link). However, "cracker nuts" does provide some coverage in reliable sources. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:33, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
      • They are called Nagaraya cracker nuts and they come in a variety of different flavors! Jendl1794 (talk) 16:21, 25 September 2016 (UTC)jendl1794, 25 September 2016

Request

I am looking for people who can help me check and complete a list of translations of beef meat cuts from Hebrew into English, Russian and Dutch on my website. Debresser (talk) 12:16, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Note, I just made to change to commons:File:British Beef Cuts.svg because an edit (all the way back in 2014) seems to have erroneously switched the topside and silverside cuts. I see your site is using the incorrect version.Jason Quinn (talk) 19:57, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Replaced. Thanks. Debresser (talk) 00:17, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Capicola move request

I have opened a formal RM move request for a discussion on the title of the capicola article. Please weigh in here if you are interested in participating. —  AjaxSmack  13:48, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to the online editathon on Women in Food and Drink

November 2016
	An opportunity for you and your country to contribute to the Women in Food and Drink online editathon Faciliated by Women in Red

--Ipigott (talk) 13:02, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

(To subscribe, Women in Red/Invite list. Unsubscribe, Women in Red/Opt-out list)

Twitter

A new twitter account will now post future updates that are too annoying to send out via mms. Follow the account (operated by WikiPancake) to check for updates on your Twitter account!

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It will post the following:

• Project updates (Usually small ones that aren't notable in the newsletter)
• A weekly food/drink-related featured article (nominations can be made in the project's talk page -- namely here)
• After careful thinking and to boost stubs into at least C-class articles, we'll be posting a "This week's article for improvement"
• New member alerts
• Updates regarding the Project talk page

@WikiProjectFD -- See here

For any info or questions, please contact WikiPancake on his talk page. Thanks! WikiPancake ^{✉ 📖} 13:38, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Update Account may be inactive for some time due to myself being inactive. Will be back online in at least a week. WikiPancake 🥞 09:43, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Women in Red redux

I have taken the liberty of adding a link from this project's ToDo list (diff), to a redlist of women in food and drink, being a listing of women for whom we have no biography. Right now, there are five times as many biogs of men as there are of women on wikipedia. I hope this project will lend its support to addressing this imbalance by creating biogs for women. More generally, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red has very many redlists covering perhaps 100,000 notable women for which we have no biography. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:06, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

@Tagishsimon: I've reviewed the list that you mentioned, and I'll try to do some more research and to at least create a few articles in the redlists. Thanks for mentioning this, I'll include this in the December newsletter. Cheers, WikiPancake ^{✉ 📖} 15:12, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, WikiPancake, that's very kind. It'll take all of our efforts to improve the situation, so your input and lead is very helpful. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:11, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Water filters

Hello. Do you think we should create a separate article about water filters like this one? Water filter isn't looking great. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:16, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: I'm not sure if Water filter is covered in our scope; it's not technically food. Try discussing this here. WikiPancake ^{✉ 📖} 15:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Street food, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:08, 31 October 2016 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Custard powder

Hello, WikiProject Food and drink. You have new messages at talk:Bird's Custard.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

A discussion about creating a new article about custard powder is underway at talk:Bird's Custard which is the current target of the redirect. -- 65.94.171.217 (talk) 11:55, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Moved to talk:Bird's Custard § Split apart (2016)

Nutricia North America Correction to Article

Dear Wikipedia Editors,

As Vice President for Medical and Scientific Affairs for Nutricia North America, I am writing to request that you review the Wikipedia entry for Nutricia North America because it has been edited to contain untrue and unsubstantiated statements.

Some references for this page are not from legitimate sources. One reference is from an online parent forum post from July, 2015 and does not substantiate the claims for which it is cited. Another reference directs the user to a website for a product that has no connection to Nutricia North America or our products; the referenced website concerns a product for administration of proper dosages of proton pump inhibitors for children. Nutricia North America does not make or have any connection to proton pump inhibitors or their usage.

Language used in this entry is inflammatory and does not present a neutral point of view. Additionally, this article has been flagged on the website as having multiple issues. The citations do not support the material presented and the article also relies on primary sources without reliable secondary sources to substantiate the information.

I respectfully ask that the content be reviewed and updated to reflect current, reputable information. Please do not hesitate to reach out to me if you have any questions.

Sincerely, Dr. Steven Yannicelli, PhD, RD VP Medical and Scientific Affairs Nutricia North America — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syannicelli (talk • contribs) 14:37, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

@Syannicelli: The scary thing is that this cannot be reviewed -- it is already in the mainspace, meaning anyone can look at it. If you can, please feel free to remove the references that you think fail Verifibility, but if you think that it does not meet the WP:NOTABILITY criteria, please tag it for deletion if you need to. However, I suggest that you talk about this with the article expander 205.142.197.66. Thanks. WikiPancake 🥞 14:41, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Nestlé Bear Brand

I have recently received several requests from a user on my talk page (see here) for the Nestlé Bear Brand article to be improved. Posting a general request here to receive broader consideration. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:13, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

I have added a logo of the Bear Brand brand (?). Will add references too, if I can rummage through Google. WikiPancake 🥞 14:47, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Three-martini lunch, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Three-martini lunch, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Are mushrooms vegetables

See Talk:Vegetable#Algae and mushrooms?. Any help appreciated. Andrewa (talk) 17:49, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

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My list of missing topics about food is updated - Skysmith (talk) 13:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

New article: Claude Lebey

I have added WPFOOD to Claude Lebey's talkpage. Feel free to take a look and expand if you can find more reliable third-party sources. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:19, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Espresso Martini

The named article continuously goes through edit war by IP users. So some protection is required against such edits.srini (talk) 16:50, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

I did a little editing and writing in the article, in part the rationale was to explicitly point out why the edits were vandalism. This morning I placed a vandalism warning on the IP user's talk page after yet another attempt this morning. I believe it takes four warnings for the administrators to block an IP. That number may have already occurred in rollback edit summaries. Blocking the IP seems a better course of action versus page protection due to the infrequent timing of the vandalizing edits, only once or twice a week. Gzuufy (talk) 17:49, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Thankssrini (talk) 03:50, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Pearson's Candy Company

Pearson's Candy Company, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Shearonink (talk) 07:37, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Old-fashioned doughnut GAR

Old-fashioned doughnut, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:52, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Red bean soup split discussion

Please come participate in the discussion to determine if this article should be split into two or more articles. Thank you. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:29, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Merging cheonsachae and kelp noodles

Please participate in the discussion on the merger of cheonsachae and kelp noodles. --MaeveCosgrave (talk) 12:50, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

"Chocolate tea" - redirect to tea? Disambig? (Nigerian English)

I learned that in Nigeria what is called "chocolate tea" really refers to "hot chocolate" stemming from the Nigerian custom of calling any morning beverage "tea". A Daily Trust article confirms this:

"Question:

I recently traveled outside Nigeria and was surprised to discover that most of us actually don’t drink tea in Nigeria. We call everything we drink in the morning “tea” even if it’s not.

Answer:

You’re right that “tea” has become the generic term for all kinds of beverages in Nigeria. Most Nigerians mix “Milo,” powdered milk, sugar and water, and call it “tea.” Native English speakers would call that “hot chocolate” or “hot cocoa,” not tea. Tea is made by seeping tea leaves, such as Lipton tea, in water. When my daughter and I visited Nigeria in 2012, she made the same observation. “Daddy, why do Nigerians call hot cocoa ‘tea’?” she asked me."

I'm considering making "chocolate tea" a disambiguation page - pointing to both "tea" and "hot chocolate". This would serve Nigerian readers pointing them to the right place, but it also serves Americans/Brits/Australians/New Zealanders/Irish by pointing them to "tea" for any actual variety of tea flavored with chocolate. What do you think? WhisperToMe (talk) 06:25, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Information about wiki project food and drink

Good afternoon, to know all about wiki media projects is one of the basic steps that will help me to succeed on my own job,online.If I can get editors' help before picking a project,I will be happy.Thanks.