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A barnstar for you!

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	I took notice that you reverted some disruptive edits to John (given name). Thank you. LatinWolf (talk) 02:05, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Gesellschaft zur wissenschaftlichen Untersuchung von Parawissenschaften

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:49, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! It's featured now on Portal:Germany If you have other DYK related to Germany feel free to place it there yourself, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:14, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Precious

symphony of science and scientific skepticism
Thank you for quality contributions to articles, helping new users, for example to scientific skeptic GWUP, for the List of skeptical magazines, for adding images to the Symphony of Science, for language precision and quoting truth and insight, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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A year ago, you were the 975th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were recipient no. 975 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Three years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Seth Andrews

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I've replaced it with a png version (Skeptic Zone logo.png) and requested the jpg version to be deleted. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:00, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Rob Nanninga

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nl:Gebruiker:Trydence/1

Hello! I have got a text for an article in Dutch wikipedia, but translator said that he knows Dutch not good. Could you check this text, please? You can edit right on this page.--Trydence (talk) 16:45, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not interested. I hope you find someone else. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Nice work, happy to follow up with my tools in this case. Jerodlycett (talk) 06:43, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

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A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for editing the AllTrials article. I like the organization's mission but hardly know how to manage the article. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:27, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome! If you'd like some aid, I might help you with the referencing and finding additional sources. Greetings, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ryan J. Bell

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Dorit Reiss

Your change of the article's name from Dorit Rubinstein Reiss to Dorit Reiss was inappropriate. You should have discussed it with someone. Her formal name in professional circles is Dorit Rubinstein Reiss, not the truncated, and frankly unacceptable, name you used. You might have taken a bit of your time to put it on talk? The problem is that I don't know how to revert your error.

I thought one of the primary attributes of Wikipedia is that we discuss big changes. And you changed someone's name arbitrarily. Explain to me why you did this? Oh wait. I don't care. SkepticalRaptor (talk) 05:40, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I'm willing to explain, but if you don't really care and are just here to voice your frustration, I won't bother. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:08, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I think the redirect should be the other way, as she typically identifies as Dorit Rubinstein Reiss. I can fix that for you if you want? Guy (Help!) 20:18, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Do you have evidence for that? In that case I would be fine with it, otherwise I would rather maintain the simple name. Greetings, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:40, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

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Michael Marshall (skeptic)

Hi! Just saw that you created a page about Marsh, but I'm not entirely convinced that he's independently notable. Almost all of the sources are only mentions of him or pieces written by him, and none appear to be directly about him. I'm tempted to AfD the article but I know you've put a lot of work into it so wanted to get your thoughts on the sourcing first. Thanks, Sam Walton (talk) 10:36, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

What would convince you he is independently notable then? Two BBC radio interviews, at leat five BBC news articles, 2 in the Telegraph, 2 in the Mirror, 2 in the Daily Mail, 1 by Huffington Post UK. All of those are national news media in the UK and not written by, but about him. Are those articles all entirely about him? No, but they don't have to be: "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it need not be the main topic of the source material." He acts as a spokesperson for both the MSS and the GTS in many instances, or leads campaigns, projects and investigations. The Olivia Solon article is entirely based on Marshall's investigation, half of the Penman article as well. Others like the Damien Gayle give him quite some space to explain his opinion on the main topic of the article. Also, his Stockholm lecture is broadcast by the Swedish public broadcasting organisation. I think that's rather solid, but I'm interested to hear your opinion. I'm somewhat surprised that you would raise this question, seeing your own excellent article on the Good Thinking Society, the sources and contents of which partly overlap with Marshall's page because they're closely intertwined. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:55, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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Category:Climate change deniers

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Request for Help on Sources

Hi! I've read your article Template:Ancient Syria and Mesopotamia. It is an excellent chart and may be the only territorial timeline in EN wiki. I would like to male a territorial timeline myself: could you share me the sources you used to make this timeline? Thank you!Ez zjc333 (talk) 06:01, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Hey Ez,

Thanks for the compliment. I used primarily Dutch language sources, but it shouldn't be a problem to find the same historical data in English works.

• L. de Blois & R.J. van der Spek, Een kennismaking met de Oude Wereld (2004). Bussum: Uitgeverij Coutinho.
• Encarta-encyclopedie Winkler Prins (1993–2002). Microsoft Corporation/Het Spectrum. (several articles)
• Xavier Adams & Liek Mulder, Historische Atlas (1997). Baarn: Uitgeverij Nijgh Versluys.
• Various articles on English and Dutch Wikipedia.

Note that not all dates are accurate to the same degree, and some are arbitrary to a certain extent. There is, for example, no agreement amongst historians when the Neo-Assyrian Empire began: some say around 900 BCE, others place it much later during the reign of Tiglath-Pileser III (r. 745–727 BCE). My dating of the 3 Hittite periods should also be taken with a grain of salt: it's just an approximation. Good luck! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:24, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Nederlandse,

Sorry for my tardiness. Thank you for your response. The suggestion of Encarta is really great. It seems that I cannot readily get the English version of the other two books, but I will keep searching. Once again thank you very much: without you I may even don't know where to start.Ez zjc333 (talk) 09:17, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ez,

What period and region would you like to cover? I may be able to recommend you some books or other media. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:10, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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Pepijn van Erp

Hello Dutch Lion: is there any reason Pepijn should call himself Doctorandus? He is unable to provide proof of his degrees . I was unable to find information about his studies at the University he says he attended. I think he should be held accountable since he is a member of a Skeptics society and he should be the first to remove any doubt about being a cheater.. Just a reminderPolar Bear's palaver: Cheater no.18: Pepijn van Erp polarbearspalaver.blogspot.com/.../cheater-no18-pepijn-van-erp.html‎ Oct 21, 2012 ... Pepijn van Erp, skeptic activist and online chess cheater. One of many subhuman online cheaters from the Benelux area. He was banned in the ... Yes I just started to write because I am following his blogs and I cannot write anything there as he erases everything that it is not in his favor so I decided to pursue Wikipedia and other means. Askpepijn (talk) 16:00, 24 April 2016 (UTC)AskpepijnAskpepijn (talk) 16:00, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

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Getting fairly happy with this article now; it needs a little more cleanup, but think the structure's there and everything I think deserves to be included from the French version. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:55, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

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Skeptic in British English? I'm sceptical about that...

See https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sceptic%2C+skeptic&year_start=1700&year_end=2008&corpus=18&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Csceptic%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cskeptic%3B%2Cc0

Evidence of recent pollution of the British spelling :)

However, I'll grant that the OED allows both, though it does say, "Now usually spelt sceptic in the U.K. and British Commonwealth and skeptic in the U.S. Similarly all the derivatives, scepticism/skepticism, etc." Now why would you want to revert my edit? — Hebrides (talk) 21:34, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out, I didn't explain myself properly. Indeed, British English literature does not use 'skeptic' more often than 'sceptic' as you show above. But the words don't necessarily mean the same (anymore). Sceptic has a connotation of the categorical dismissal of any claim, negativity and cynicism, whereas skeptic stands for doubting and investigating extraordinary claims, consumer protection and empathy. So it's not merely a case of 'pollution', rather an enrichment of British vocabulary with a new word that sounds the same and is written similar to another word, but has a different meaning.

So, instead of "British English", what I should have said is that the skeptical movement (in the UK and elsewhere, including Australia, Belgium, the Netherlands etc. where the official spelling is also with a c) uses the k almost exclusively instead of the c. For example, every British Skeptics in the Pub event (with the exception of Eastbourne) uses the k (in fact, the London SITP was the first in the world, and has always been spelt with a k). All UK organisations also use the k: Association for Skeptical Enquiry, Edinburgh Skeptics, Glasgow Skeptics, Merseyside Skeptics Society, Hampshire Skeptics, Winchester Skeptics, Berkshire Skeptics etc. In fact, the Merseyside Skeptics run a podcast called Skeptics with a K to make this clear distinction between sceptic and skeptic. In an April Fools episode, they called themselves Sceptics with a C and accepted all extraordinary claims in the media without any critical thought, yet again showing that they see the words as different. That's why I reverted your edit. :) Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:22, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

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Ah ok, thanks for mentioning it. I was aware that translations require such an attribution, so unless I translate my own texts, I always add a translate template on the talk page of a new article. As it happens, I did attribute a copied text from Alexander II Zabinas to Seleucid Dynastic Wars half an hour before the edit you mention above as I somehow felt that was appropriate (I didn't know there was actually a rule for this), but didn't do the same with the edit above. I'll try to apply this attribution in edit summaries more consistently in the future. Greetings, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 08:46, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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Arjen Lubach

You might be able to help with two issues I've addressed on Talk:Arjen Lubach. – Editør (talk) 07:27, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

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Kazakh Latin alphabet

Thanks for the spread of the Latin script split. Could you start an article on Kazakh Latin alphabet? It could contain info about the Soviet, diasporas, KZ-government systems and about proposals and the political development to implement it in independent Kazakhstan. 78.55.226.35 (talk) 17:31, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

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I also nominated Category:Non-free logos of humanist organisations. Cheers, -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 01:50, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

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Nomination of Fireworks policy in the Republic of Ireland for deletion

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Dutch help

Hi Nederlandse Leeuw,

This episode is in Dutch and no subtitles are able to be displayed. At the very end of that episode, can you tell me whether that woman accepted that guy's request or declined?

Thanks in advance. --BrianJ34 (talk) 08:02, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Brian, I'm afraid I can't. YouTube says: "This video contains content from RTL Netherlands, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." Their website does have it, but I'd have to pay for it, which I'm not gonna. Hope someone else could assist you on your quest. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 11:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I have now uploaded the last 2 minutes on youtube. Could you let me know whether she decided to accept his request? Thanks. --BrianJ34 (talk) 07:12, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Brian, thanks! She did not accept his request. She said they had a very good friendship-like experience, but she did not feel any love for him. She was certain about her decision, he was disappointed but accepted the rejection. Greetings, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 11:04, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much! ontzettend bedankt! --BrianJ34 (talk) 11:27, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Fireworks policy in the Republic of Ireland

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		Fireworks policy in the Republic of Ireland is an incredibly specific article that is, nonetheless, well-written and researched. Its content is a valuable addition wherever it ends up. Chetsford (talk) 06:20, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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		I hate to give out multiple barnstars back-to-back but, since my last one, I've been reading some of the other articles you've created and they're all really valuable additions, for instance French invasion of Switzerland and September Declaration. Chetsford (talk) 06:33, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Fireworks: Government regulations around the world: Germany

Hello! I'm sorry, but my English is very bad! Some points of Your Edit in Fireworks#Government regulations around the world#Germany are not correct, the reference (http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/feuerwerk-sicher-durch-die-silvesternacht.735.de.html?dram:article_id=406860) contains some mistakes (German journalists mostly are not good informed about fireworks).

In Germany people of 18 years and older (see § 20, 1. SprengV (= Erste Verordnung zu Sprengstoffgesetz)) can buy fireworks of Category F2 on the last three days of the year (29/12 - 31/12). If one of these days is a Sunday the sale starts on 28/12 (see § 22 I, 1. SprengV). People of 18 years and older are allowed to ignite fireworks of Category F2 on 31/12 and 1/1, but it is forbidden to ignite fireworks near churches, hospitals, children's homes, rest homes and flammable buildings (i.e. thatched houses) (see § 23 I + II, 1. SprengV). German municipality are authorised to limit the number of hours for fireworks "mit ausschließlich Knallwirkung" (i.e. firecrackers, Dutch: knalvuurwerk).

In Germany there are some restrictions in Category F2 for people without pyrotechnical license: i.e. No flash powder in Firecrackers and cakes of firecrackers; rockets (Vuurpijlen) are limited to 20g NEM (Kruitgewicht); (see §20 IV, 1. SprengV).

Best regards Minos (talk) 11:50, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

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Article review: Domestic violence

Could you please take a look at Domestic violence article? It might lack NPOV (at least in some sections). DavisNT (talk) 02:38, 11 February 2018 (UTC)