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:{{u|Quale}}, Is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Sortname/doc&diff=858448633&oldid=823979892&diffmode=source this better] ? —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 08:00, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|Quale}}, Is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Sortname/doc&diff=858448633&oldid=823979892&diffmode=source this better] ? —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 08:00, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks, I think it is. I asked because the "What's generated" examples were no longer correct, and I was unsure whether the deprecation warning was still needed. [[User:Quale|Quale]] ([[User talk:Quale|talk]]) 04:05, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks, I think it is. I asked because the "What's generated" examples were no longer correct, and I was unsure whether the deprecation warning was still needed. [[User:Quale|Quale]] ([[User talk:Quale|talk]]) 04:05, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
== Apple for you ==
Welcome TheDJ. The gift is for you. [[user:Chickeo|Chickeo]] 08:43, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
[[File:GreenApple.png|right]]

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Welcome to my talk page !


Administrators' newsletter – January 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2017).

Administrator changes

added Muboshgu
readded AnetodeLaser brainWorm That Turned
removed None

Bureaucrat changes

readded Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

  • A request for comment is in progress to determine whether the administrator policy should be amended to require disclosure of paid editing activity at WP:RFA and to prohibit the use of administrative tools as part of paid editing activity, with certain exceptions.

Technical news

Arbitration


Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018

Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018

Metadata on the March

From the days of hard-copy liner notes on music albums, metadata have stood outside a piece or file, while adding to understanding of where it comes from, and some of what needs to be appreciated about its content. In the GLAM sector, the accumulation of accurate metadata for objects is key to the mission of an institution, and its presentation in cataloguing.

Today Wikipedia turns 17, with worlds still to conquer. Zooming out from the individual GLAM object to the ontology in which it is set, one such world becomes apparent: GLAMs use custom ontologies, and those introduce massive incompatibilities. From a recent article by sadads, we quote the observation that "vocabularies needed for many collections, topics and intellectual spaces defy the expectations of the larger professional communities." A job for the encyclopedist, certainly. But the data-minded Wikimedian has the advantages of Wikidata, starting with its multilingual data, and facility with aliases. The controlled vocabulary — sometimes referred to as a "thesaurus" as term of art — simplifies search: if a "spade" must be called that, rather than "shovel", it is easier to find all spade references. That control comes at a cost.

SVG pedestrian crosses road
Zebra crossing/crosswalk, Singapore

Case studies in that article show what can lie ahead. The schema crosswalk, in jargon, is a potential answer to the GLAM Babel of proliferating and expanding vocabularies. Even if you have no interest in Wikidata as such, simply vocabularies V and W, if both V and W are matched to Wikidata, then a "crosswalk" arises from term v in V to w in W, whenever v and w both match to the same item d in Wikidata.

For metadata mobility, match to Wikidata. It's apparently that simple: infrastructure requirements have turned out, so far, to be challenges that can be met.


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Administrators' newsletter – February 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2018).

Administrator changes

added None
removed BlurpeaceDana boomerDeltabeignetDenelson83GrandioseSalvidrim!Ymblanter

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC has closed with a consensus that candidates at WP:RFA must disclose whether they have ever edited for pay and that administrators may never use administrative tools as part of any paid editing activity, except when they are acting as a Wikipedian-in-Residence or when the payment is made by the Wikimedia Foundation or an affiliate of the WMF.
  • Editors responding to threats of harm can now contact the Wikimedia Foundation's emergency address by using Special:EmailUser/Emergency. If you don't have email enabled on Wikipedia, directly contacting the emergency address using your own email client remains an option.

Technical news

  • A tag will now be automatically applied to edits that blank a page, turn a page into a redirect, remove/replace almost all content in a page, undo an edit, or rollback an edit. These edits were previously denoted solely by automatic edit summaries.

Arbitration


Thank you for fixing the templates

Thanks for fixing the calculus article looks so much better now. The bottom collapsable templates need the same fix. See for example my sandbox of calculus templates. You can see the templates load fully expanded then immediately collapse. Brian Everlasting (talk) 02:50, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018

Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018

m:Grants:Project/ScienceSource is the new ContentMine proposal: please take a look.

Wikidata as Hub

One way of looking at Wikidata relates it to the semantic web concept, around for about as long as Wikipedia, and realised in dozens of distributed Web institutions. It sees Wikidata as supplying central, encyclopedic coverage of linked structured data, and looks ahead to greater support for "federated queries" that draw together information from all parts of the emerging network of websites.

Another perspective might be likened to a photographic negative of that one: Wikidata as an already-functioning Web hub. Over half of its properties are identifiers on other websites. These are Wikidata's "external links", to use Wikipedia terminology: one type for the DOI of a publication, another for the VIAF page of an author, with thousands more such. Wikidata links out to sites that are not nominally part of the semantic web, effectively drawing them into a larger system. The crosswalk possibilities of the systematic construction of these links was covered in Issue 8.

Wikipedia:External links speaks of them as kept "minimal, meritable, and directly relevant to the article." Here Wikidata finds more of a function. On viaf.org one can type a VIAF author identifier into the search box, and find the author page. The Wikidata Resolver tool, these days including Open Street Map, Scholia etc., allows this kind of lookup. The hub tool by maxlath takes a major step further, allowing both lookup and crosswalk to be encoded in a single URL.


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life is hard

I found out that in life u can not get what u wished for but u only get what u worked for. You never know the importance of life until is gone then u see the meaning of it Atang5722 (talk) 08:10, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New prototype for edit conflict handling ready for testing

Hey :-), we finally made it and the prototype for an alternative Two Column Conflict view is ready for testing! - all infos here: m:WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Edit_Conflicts/Feedback_Round_Paragraph-Based_Prototype. Would be great if you find time to look into it! Thanks a ton, --Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talk) 18:03, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Recent revert at AN

Please explain on what basis you reverted the constructive comment of an IP editor. John from Idegon (talk) 01:06, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Multi try catch?

Awhile back, you mentioned that a script of mine needed a try catch.

Well, now I have a script that may need a number of try catches: SearchSuite.js.

I'm not sure what the best way to proceed is. How would you go about it?

(And if you see other problems, or ways the script can be improved, feel free to comment on those too.)

I look forward to your reply. Sincerely,     — The Transhumanist    19:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: please {{ping}} me in your reply. Thank you. -TT

Administrators' newsletter – March 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2018).

Administrator changes

added Lourdes
removed AngelOfSadnessBhadaniChris 73CorenFridayMidomMike V
† Lourdes has requested that her admin rights be temporarily removed, pending her return from travel.

Guideline and policy news

  • The autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) is scheduled to end on 14 March 2018. The results of the research collected can be read on Meta Wiki.
  • Community ban discussions must now stay open for at least 24 hours prior to being closed.
  • A change to the administrator inactivity policy has been proposed. Under the proposal, if an administrator has not used their admin tools for a period of five years and is subsequently desysopped for inactivity, the administrator would have to file a new RfA in order to regain the tools.
  • A change to the banning policy has been proposed which would specify conditions under which a repeat sockmaster may be considered de facto banned, reducing the need to start a community ban discussion for these users.

Technical news

  • CheckUsers are now able to view private data such as IP addresses from the edit filter log, e.g. when the filter prevents a user from creating an account. Previously, this information was unavailable to CheckUsers because access to it could not be logged.
  • The edit filter has a new feature contains_all that edit filter managers may use to check if one or more strings are all contained in another given string.

Miscellaneous

Obituaries

  • Bhadani (Gangadhar Bhadani) passed away on 8 February 2018. Bhadani joined Wikipedia in March 2005 and became an administrator in September 2005. While he was active, Bhadani was regarded as one of the most prolific Wikipedians from India.

Facto Post – Issue 10 – 12 March 2018

Facto Post – Issue 10 – 12 March 2018

Milestone for mix'n'match

Around the time in February when Wikidata clicked past item Q50000000, another milestone was reached: the mix'n'match tool uploaded its 1000th dataset. Concisely defined by its author, Magnus Manske, it works "to match entries in external catalogs to Wikidata". The total number of entries is now well into eight figures, and more are constantly being added: a couple of new catalogs each day is normal.

Since the end of 2013, mix'n'match has gradually come to play a significant part in adding statements to Wikidata. Particularly in areas with the flavour of digital humanities, but datasets can of course be about practically anything. There is a catalog on skyscrapers, and two on spiders.

These days mix'n'match can be used in numerous modes, from the relaxed gamified click through a catalog looking for matches, with prompts, to the fantastically useful and often demanding search across all catalogs. I'll type that again: you can search 1000+ datasets from the simple box at the top right. The drop-down menu top left offers "creation candidates", Magnus's personal favourite. m:Mix'n'match/Manual for more.

For the Wikidatan, a key point is that these matches, however carried out, add statements to Wikidata if, and naturally only if, there is a Wikidata property associated with the catalog. For everyone, however, the hands-on experience of deciding of what is a good match is an education, in a scholarly area, biographical catalogs being particularly fraught. Underpinning recent rapid progress is an open infrastructure for scraping and uploading.

Congratulations to Magnus, our data Stakhanovite!

3D printing

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Doing a Popups project for Google Summer of Code

Hi! I pinged you over on the Phab task, but in case you didn't see it, I'm proposing a Google Summer of Code project where I remove the old summarizer & parser code and replace it with calls to the modern API. I was originally thinking action=parse, but it could be the same call that Hovercards uses. I'm also looking for mentors who are familiar with JS & gadgets - you're one of the people most experienced with hacking on this gadget, but it is a big time commitment. Anyway, feel free to add a comment if you want! Enterprisey (talk!) 05:14, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Qui Doesn't work

Is it my browser, or what? Note: I put in into my common.js instead of vector.js. Here is my browser info: whatsmybrowser.org/b/GDU2DTU qwerty6811 :-) Chat Ping me 18:45, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsible functionality on mobile

Would it be possible to enable the scripts for collapsible functionality on mobile, but just in a select namespace? For example, project namespace, and being able to use it on a page like Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC with a collapsible list of local events.--Pharos (talk) 18:56, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2018).

Administrator changes

added 331dotCordless LarryClueBot NG
removed Gogo DodoPb30SebastiankesselSeicerSoLando

Guideline and policy news

  • Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
  • Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
  • The notability guideline for organizations and companies has been substantially rewritten following the closure of this request for comment. Among the changes, the guideline more clearly defines the sourcing requirements needed for organizations and companies to be considered notable.
  • The six-month autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) ended on 14 March 2018. The post-trial research report has been published. A request for comment is now underway to determine whether the restrictions from ACTRIAL should be implemented permanently.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.

Miscellaneous

  • A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
  • The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.

Facto Post – Issue 11 – 9 April 2018

Facto Post – Issue 11 – 9 April 2018

The 100 Skins of the Onion

Open Citations Month, with its eminently guessable hashtag, is upon us. We should be utterly grateful that in the past 12 months, so much data on which papers cite which other papers has been made open, and that Wikidata is playing its part in hosting it as "cites" statements. At the time of writing, there are 15.3M Wikidata items that can do that.

Pulling back to look at open access papers in the large, though, there is is less reason for celebration. Access in theory does not yet equate to practical access. A recent LSE IMPACT blogpost puts that issue down to "heterogeneity". A useful euphemism to save us from thinking that the whole concept doesn't fall into the realm of the oxymoron.

Some home truths: aggregation is not content management, if it falls short on reusability. The PDF file format is wedded to how humans read documents, not how machines ingest them. The salami-slicer is our friend in the current downloading of open access papers, but for a better metaphor, think about skinning an onion, laboriously, 100 times with diminishing returns. There are of the order of 100 major publisher sites hosting open access papers, and the predominant offer there is still a PDF.

Red onion cross section

From the discoverability angle, Wikidata's bibliographic resources combined with the SPARQL query are superior in principle, by far, to existing keyword searches run over papers. Open access content should be managed into consistent HTML, something that is currently strenuous. The good news, such as it is, would be that much of it is already in XML. The organisational problem of removing further skins from the onion, with sensible prioritisation, is certainly not insuperable. The CORE group (the bloggers in the LSE posting) has some answers, but actually not all that is needed for the text and data mining purposes they highlight. The long tail, or in other words the onion heart when it has become fiddly beyond patience to skin, does call for a pis aller. But the real knack is to do more between the XML and the heart.


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Thank you

...for your reply on the Help Desk page. Best Regards, Barbara   09:01, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed for bn.wiki

Hi, i'm from bnwiki. We use Mediawiki:RefToolbar.js same as enwiki. When we click on access date icon for auto filling date, the date always in english. so, i added this code for converting English digit to Bengali digit (which i copied from another site). Everything is working but could you please confirm me that code is ok? it will not cause any loading performance issue? please take a look, i will be very thankfull. --আফতাব (talk) 18:20, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – May 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018).

Administrator changes

added None
removed ChochopkCoffeeGryffindorJimpKnowledge SeekerLankiveilPeridonRjd0060

Guideline and policy news

  • The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
  • A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.

Technical news

  • AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new equals_to_any function can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash.
  • When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
  • The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
  • There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.

Arbitration

Obituaries

  • Lankiveil (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.

Nomination for deletion of Module:Block quote

Module:Block quote has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 01:24, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Another RfC on Net Neutrality

A month ago you participated in an RfC at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 147#Net neutrality. The same proposal has been posted again at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal: A US-only CentralNotice in support of Net Neutrality. (This notice has been sent to all who participated in the prior RfC, regardless of which side they supported). --Guy Macon (talk) 20:51, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

css edits

Those edits now fuck up lots of things that should never have been 80% width, e.g. {{archives}} in Template_talk:Cite_Q, or {{edit template-protected}} in pretty much everywhere. Please don't make those changes without testing first. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:58, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Headbomb: I'm really sorry, but it is very hard to find all the gazillion ways peoples have used some of this, so sometimes it just takes a bit to completely figure it out. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 20:03, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Probably a case where it's best to leave the 80% in place then? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:06, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have more places that are still broken (after bypassing caching?) because i think i fixed everything you reported. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 20:07, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Those are just a few I caught when randomly loading talk pages. I'm sure there's more, I suppose I can keep an eye out. If it's critical to get rid of the 80%, probably a good idea to post a WP:VPT asking for people to report issues with template widths. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:11, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This change causes a lot of issues with a bunch of talk page templates (it mostly varies with the zoom level). E.g. [1] vs [2]. I've been trying to re-organize things so that it's not so bad, but a better solution would be appreciated here. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:57, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Qui status

Hiya. Qui doesn't work for me. I'm on Chrome 66. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) 00:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Facto Post – Issue 12 – 28 May 2018

Facto Post – Issue 12 – 28 May 2018

ScienceSource funded

The Wikimedia Foundation announced full funding of the ScienceSource grant proposal from ContentMine on May 18. See the ScienceSource Twitter announcement and 60 second video.

A medical canon?

The proposal includes downloading 30,000 open access papers, aiming (roughly speaking) to create a baseline for medical referencing on Wikipedia. It leaves open the question of how these are to be chosen.

The basic criteria of WP:MEDRS include a concentration on secondary literature. Attention has to be given to the long tail of diseases that receive less current research. The MEDRS guideline supposes that edge cases will have to be handled, and the premature exclusion of publications that would be in those marginal positions would reduce the value of the collection. Prophylaxis misses the point that gate-keeping will be done by an algorithm.

Two well-known but rather different areas where such considerations apply are tropical diseases and alternative medicine. There are also a number of potential downloading troubles, and these were mentioned in Issue 11. There is likely to be a gap, even with the guideline, between conditions taken to be necessary but not sufficient, and conditions sufficient but not necessary, for candidate papers to be included. With around 10,000 recognised medical conditions in standard lists, being comprehensive is demanding. With all of these aspects of the task, ScienceSource will seek community help.

OpenRefine logo, courtesy of Google

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Need old printing style before October 2017

Hello buddy,

When I try to print out an article, I notice that the printing style of Wikipedia articles has been changed since around October 2017. I really need to use the old printing style. Could you tell me how to revert to the old printing style?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards, Tony

@Tony419c: The old style is no longer available. I wouldn't know how to recreate those results right now. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 13:13, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – June 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2018).

Administrator changes

added None
removed Al Ameer sonAliveFreeHappyCenariumLupoMichaelBillington

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in June. This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.
  • The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team will build granular types of blocks in 2018 (e.g. a block from uploading or editing specific pages, categories, or namespaces, as opposed to a full-site block). Feedback on the concept may be left at the talk page.
  • There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups.
  • It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked.

Arbitration

  • A recent technical issue with the Arbitration Committee's spam filter inadvertently caused all messages sent to the committee through Wikipedia (i.e. Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee) to be discarded. If you attempted to send an email to the Arbitration Committee via Wikipedia between May 16 and May 31, your message was not received and you are encouraged to resend it. Messages sent outside of these dates or directly to the Arbitration Committee email address were not affected by this issue.

Miscellaneous


2017 Wikitext editor

Responsive Content breaks the new editor by shifting the text. It is noticeable when syntax highlighting is enabled as it causes an issue similar to T180678. You can easily see this in e.g. United States. I tested it on Chrome 67 and Firefox 60 on Windows.--Nickps (talk) 12:23, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your change to the sort template today

You made an edit to {{Template:Sort}} today. I have no clue regarding template coding. All I know is that it caused a funky doodle error at List of federal judges appointed by Ronald Reagan and some of our other list articles. It is visibly displaying the sort value that should be invisible, like this: <span data-sort-value="July 7, 2013!">December 1, 1990 The proceeding showed up just today and just after you made that edit to the sort template. Please fix or revert, as it is disrupting a number of our lists. Thanks. Safiel (talk) 19:16, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

When i get back to my laptop later tonight, ill take a look. But at first glance on that page, where this happens, i see dts being nested inside sort, which makes no sense as both are used to generate sortkeys. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 19:35, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Facto Post – Issue 13 – 29 May 2018

Facto Post – Issue 13 – 29 May 2018

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Respecting MEDRS

Facto Post enters its second year, with a Cambridge Blue (OK, Aquamarine) background, a new logo, but no Cambridge blues. On-topic for the ScienceSource project is a project page here. It contains some case studies on how the WP:MEDRS guideline, for the referencing of articles at all related to human health, is applied in typical discussions.

Close to home also, a template, called {{medrs}} for short, is used to express dissatisfaction with particular references. Technology can help with patrolling, and this Petscan query finds over 450 articles where there is at least one use of the template. Of course the template is merely suggesting there is a possible issue with the reliability of a reference. Deciding the truth of the allegation is another matter.

This maintenance issue is one example of where ScienceSource aims to help. Where the reference is to a scientific paper, its type of algorithm could give a pass/fail opinion on such references. It could assist patrollers of medical articles, therefore, with the templated references and more generally. There may be more to proper referencing than that, indeed: context, quite what the statement supported by the reference expresses, prominence and weight. For that kind of consideration, case studies can help. But an algorithm might help to clear the backlog.

Evidence pyramid leading up to clinical guidelines, from WP:MEDRS
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018).

Administrator changes

added PbsouthwoodTheSandDoctor
readded Gogo Dodo
removed AndrevanDougEVulaKaisaLTony FoxWilyD

Bureaucrat changes

removed AndrevanEVula

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about the deletion of drafts closed with a consensus to change the wording of WP:NMFD. Specifically, a draft that has been repeatedly resubmitted and declined at AfC without any substantial improvement may be deleted at MfD if consensus determines that it is unlikely to ever meet the requirements for mainspace and it otherwise meets one of the reasons for deletion outlined in the deletion policy.
  • A request for comment closed with a consensus that the {{promising draft}} template cannot be used to indefinitely prevent a WP:G13 speedy deletion nomination.

Technical news

  • Starting on July 9, the WMF Security team, Trust & Safety, and the broader technical community will be seeking input on an upcoming change that will restrict editing of site-wide JavaScript and CSS to a new technical administrators user group. Bureaucrats and stewards will be able to grant this right per a community-defined process. The intention is to reduce the number of accounts who can edit frontend code to those who actually need to, which in turn lessens the risk of malicious code being added that compromises the security and privacy of everyone who accesses Wikipedia. For more information, please review the FAQ.
  • Syntax highlighting has been graduated from a Beta feature on the English Wikipedia. To enable this feature, click the highlighter icon () in your editing toolbar (or under the hamburger menu in the 2017 wikitext editor). This feature can help prevent you from making mistakes when editing complex templates.
  • IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in July (previously scheduled for June). This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.

Miscellaneous

  • Currently around 20% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 17% a year ago. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless if you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

Padding in MediaWiki:Watchlist-messages

Hi, why did you do this? It is causing my watchlist to flick down as the page loading completes, with the result that I occasionally click on a link that is on the line above the one intended. MonoBook skin, Opera 36. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

when you have undismissed notices, you always get that effect dont you ? —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 18:36, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, there might be something to this. Lemme guess. You are not using the watchlist filters stuff ?
The traditional watchlist uses a siteSub under the heading, that this probably clashes with. I'll think about an alternative methodology to apply padding consistenly for both variants —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 19:14, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, when I have undismissed notices it flicks - but that is a useful way of letting me know that a new RfA (or whatever) has just been posted - so I read it, act on it if necessary, and dismiss. When all messages are dismissed, it didn't flick before, and now it does. I turned off the new watchlist filters as soon as they became opt-out (see VPT), since that feature slows down watchlist loading to an unacceptable level. This rule fixes your edit to MediaWiki:Watchlist-messages. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:35, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Redrose64: That is strange, when all messages are dismissed, that whole block should not be visible. Ah... I've spotted an error in the watchlist notice gadget... —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 19:46, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, flipped around for now. Can't really find a proper way to fix this, since this siteSub thing was so badly designed in 2005 ;) —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 20:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)� —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 20:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, what you did means that my custom rule is no longer needed, Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pingen werkt niet?

Blijkbaar? Zie nl:Overleg MediaWiki:Common.css#Opruimen. --bdijkstra (talk) 18:44, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Timathom

Can we make the archives for User talk:Timathom into MULTIPLE archive pages instead of just ONE long archive page? Please {{ping}} me when you reply. --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:08, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jax 0677: sure, why not, go right ahead. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 17:53, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply - I will set up the automatic archiving, but I can not delete the existing archive page by myself. I added {{Db-move|User talk:Timathom/Archive 1|move page here so that it can be automatically archived into multiple pages instead of having ONE GIANT archive page}} to the page so that the old page can be moved back and automatically archived. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:08, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Facto Post – Issue 14 – 21 July 2018

Facto Post – Issue 14 – 21 July 2018

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Plugging the gaps – Wikimania report

Officially it is "bridging the gaps in knowledge", with Wikimania 2018 in Cape Town paying tribute to the southern African concept of ubuntu to implement it. Besides face-to-face interactions, Wikimedians do need their power sources.

Hackathon mentoring table wiring

Facto Post interviewed Jdforrester, who has attended every Wikimania, and now works as Senior Product Manager for the Wikimedia Foundation. His take on tackling the gaps in the Wikimedia movement is that "if we were an army, we could march in a column and close up all the gaps". In his view though, that is a faulty metaphor, and it leads to a completely false misunderstanding of the movement, its diversity and different aspirations, and the nature of the work as "fighting" to be done in the open sector. There are many fronts, and as an eventualist he feels the gaps experienced both by editors and by users of Wikimedia content are inevitable. He would like to see a greater emphasis on reuse of content, not simply its volume.

If that may not sound like radicalism, the Decolonizing the Internet conference here organized jointly with Whose Knowledge? can redress the picture. It comes with the claim to be "the first ever conference about centering marginalized knowledge online".

Plugbar buildup at the Hackathon
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:10, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

css selector headache

(copied from User talk:MusikAnimal)

Hi MA, can you take a look at a headache I'm hitting? Some of the "destructive" buttons in monobook still have bad contrast, I fixed some a ways back but am having a problem selecting some. A fairly common example appears in the "block" button a seen here on testwiki. I've blanked out my examples in testwiki:Mediawiki:Monobook.css for a fresh try. Thanks in advance if you have the time! — xaosflux Talk 03:44, 31 July 2018 (UTC) [reply]

Woah, this looks so different from vector! I'm guessing the colours changed with the recent responsive Monobook styles? The OOUI standard doesn't seem to be a thing. Anyway, the text colour is set by .oo-ui-buttonElement-framed.oo-ui-flaggedElement-destructive > .oo-ui-buttonElement-button so you could try overriding that. MusikAnimal talk 04:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the hints, no joy - tried lots of variants at testwiki:User:Xaosflux/monobook.css. Wonder if that special page is being overwritten in other code? — xaosflux Talk 10:25, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TheDJ, if you have a moment can you take a look if the styling on the monobook block button text label is able to be adjusted via monobook.css as described above? Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 11:04, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes there is some 3-5 minutes of caching indeed. good to hear you were able to figure out what you needed. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 07:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like some caching, etc may be at play - I finally got it bold, now just need to narrow down to one selector, looks like .oo-ui-buttonElement-framed.oo-ui-flaggedElement-destructive may be the best there. — xaosflux Talk 03:32, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).

Administrator changes

added Sro23
readded KaisaLYmblanter

Guideline and policy news

  • After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
  • Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.

Technical news


Geonotice map

Do you know if an alternative map implementation is possible? (your edit) Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 23:49, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Pharos: There is no alternative at this moment that I know of. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 10:14, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP is a Game

I added that link you provided at Jimbo's TP to the top of my user TP. Thank you for providing it. Atsme📞📧 00:42, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Facto Post – Issue 15 – 21 August 2018

Facto Post – Issue 15 – 21 August 2018

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Neglected diseases
Anti-parasitic drugs being distributed in Côte d'Ivoire
What's a Neglected Disease?, ScienceSource video

To grasp the nettle, there are rare diseases, there are tropical diseases and then there are "neglected diseases". Evidently a rare enough disease is likely to be neglected, but neglected disease these days means a disease not rare, but tropical, and most often infectious or parasitic. Rare diseases as a group are dominated, in contrast, by genetic diseases.

A major aspect of neglect is found in tracking drug discovery. Orphan drugs are those developed to treat rare diseases (rare enough not to have market-driven research), but there is some overlap in practice with the WHO's neglected diseases, where snakebite, a "neglected public health issue", is on the list.

From an encyclopedic point of view, lack of research also may mean lack of high-quality references: the core medical literature differs from primary research, since it operates by aggregating trials. This bibliographic deficit clearly hinders Wikipedia's mission. The ScienceSource project is currently addressing this issue, on Wikidata. Its Wikidata focus list at WD:SSFL is trying to ensure that neglect does not turn into bias in its selection of science papers.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
For your help with my javascript request. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:53, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IA nomination

Hello TheDJ, I've nominated you for a temporary interface administrator access grant at Wikipedia_talk:Interface_administrators#Stop-gap_users_nominated. If you do not wish to have this foisted upon you, feel free to remove yourself from the listing. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 02:49, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

sort templates

Hey, a few months back you edited {{Sort}} and {{Sortname}} to use spans with 'data-sort-value' instead of sortkeys. The template docs didn't get updated to remove the 'deprecated' tag, though; is it your understanding that your change is enough to un-deprecate those templates, even if the output isn't quite the same as having that data-sort-value class on the td tag itself? I had an editor do a sweep of a list I wrote to get rid of uses of those templates recently, and I'm curious if the issue is actually no longer present. --PresN 01:44, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Interface administrator

Hi TheDJ, per Special:Diff/856641107, I have temporarily added the interface administrator user-right to your account. I'm sure the temporary part of that will change to permanent once we have a mechanism to agree it! WormTT(talk) 17:34, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2018).

Administrator changes

added None
removed AsterionCrisco 1492KFKudpungLizRandykittySpartaz
renamed Optimist on the runVoice of Clam

Interface administrator changes

added AmorymeltzerMr. StradivariusMusikAnimalMSGJTheDJXaosflux

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a "stop-gap" discussion, six users have temporarily been made interface administrators while discussion is ongoing for a more permanent process for assigning the permission. Interface administrators are now the only editors allowed to edit sitewide CSS and JavaScript pages, as well as CSS/JS pages in another user's userspace. Previously, all administrators had this ability. The right can be granted and revoked by bureaucrats.

Technical news

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour.
  • Some abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says Deprecated. Use ... instead. An example is article_text which is now page_title.
  • Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is page_age.

Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee has resolved to perform a round of Checkuser and Oversight appointments. The usernames of all applicants will be shared with the Functionaries team, and they will be requested to assist in the vetting process. The deadline to submit an application is 23:59 UTC, 12 September, and the candidates that move forward will be published on-wiki for community comments on 18 September.

sortname template

Your June edit to {{sortname}} to use data-sort-value was excellent, but you didn't update the template docs to reflect the change. Quale (talk) 06:20, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Quale, Is this better ? —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 08:00, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I think it is. I asked because the "What's generated" examples were no longer correct, and I was unsure whether the deprecation warning was still needed. Quale (talk) 04:05, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Apple for you

Welcome TheDJ. The gift is for you. Chickeo 08:43, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]