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June 29

Please help me!

I have edited some information about Hirai Momo's private life. I want to delete the change history of those 2 posts on the history, Because many people can see it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:EE0:4BCB:F7B0:BD4A:DCA6:9B13:5B47 (talk) 07:13, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

This is the only edit made from this IP address, and the last time Momo Hirai was edited was on the 26th, so it's hard to tell which revisions you're talking about. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:02, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Adding information

Hello, Just tried to add a link to a Wiki page on Sir Tim Birkin - racing driver for Bentley in 1929. My addition is a link to YouTube film of mine of archive footage that has a few shots of the subject. But, according to Wikipedia YouTube is banned and on the Blacklist. Odd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndyG.Humphreys (talk • contribs) 08:06, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Not particularly odd. A simple reading of your contribution history, and of your talk page, should make it clear why Wikipedia doesn't consider spamming articles with links to a YouTube channel to be 'adding information'. There are circumstances where a YouTube link can be useful, but at the absolute minimum, it needs to be first established that the video uploader holds the copyright to the material concerned. See Wikipedia:External links for more. AndyTheGrump (talk) 08:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Dharma Mittra

Hi - I edited the page for Dharma Mittra to remove what seemed to me excessive bold face in the lead paragraphs. My change was then reverted by another user, with the explanation "Thanks, but this is quite standard, these are major redirect targets to here." The pages Swami Kailashananda and Master Yoga Chart, and Dharma Yoga do indeed all redirect to the page, though on the page the latter two are written out as "Master Yoga Chart of 908 Postures" and "Dharma Yoga Center" respectively. It seems a bit unwieldy, however, to have four long boldface phrases at the start - something that goes with the generally promotional tone of the article - and while it is standard to use bold to indicate that an article redirects somewhere, three such redirects seem a little overcooked. I'm not interested in getting into an unproductive argument or edit war with a respectful and knowledgeable editor, so would appreciate input from an experienced admin on whether my concerns (or the boldface) are a bit over the top. Vizjim (talk) 08:54, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Vizjim I am not an admin, but this use of bold is normal. Wikipedia has a manual of style to help resolve similar arguments and the section on boldface is MOS:BOLD. TSventon (talk) 13:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

lost content in sandbox

I had a fair amount of information in the sandbox on a page I was working on to get it ready to publish. When I logged on this morning, the sandbox appears to have reverted to a much earlier version and the new content is not there. What happened, is the content in the history logs or somewhere where I can recover it, and can I prevent this from happening again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtrchc (talk • contribs) 10:00, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Your contributions are at Special:Contributions/Rtrchc. If there are further edits which don't appear there, you presumably forgot to save them; you may have been confused by the fact that WMF decided to call the button "Publish changes" rather than "Save changes". --David Biddulph (talk) 10:05, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

ugh, that's it. maybe @wikipedia could go back in time and re-name that button and I could get hours of my life back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtrchc (talk • contribs) 10:31, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

@Rtrchc: My sympathy. For the future, you should see a "sandbox" link at the top-right of each page. It links to User:Rtrchc/sandbox which you can edit with little interference. In fact you edited that in April. Johnuniq (talk) 10:41, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Duplicate info should be merged.

The table in All-time table of the FIFA World Cup is already in National team appearances in the FIFA World Cup#Overall team records. I think they need to be merged? Cheers. Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 12:20, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok I was bold enough to already go ahead and merged them. Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 16:05, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

What is the template which adds the first few sentences of an article into another article?

Hi

I remember seeing a template maybe a year ago which transcluded the first sentence or few sentences of another article, I think it might have been called 'summary' or something similar but can't find it anywhere, any ideas? I think it worked something like the hatnote templates eg {{NAMEOFTEMPLATE|NAMEOFARTICLE}}.

Thanks very much

John Cummings (talk) 13:06, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

@John Cummings: Could you be thinking of {{Excerpt}}? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:58, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Tenryuu, yes, perfect, thanks very much John Cummings (talk) 14:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Page: Himarsha Venkatsamy

Hello,

I'm Giselle Figueiredo, a representative of Himarsha's team. I have been tasked with editing the current page on wikipedia as information on the page about Himarsha was inaccurate. The information I have added is accurate, non-promotional content, featuring only facts. I have also followed the guidelines completely set by wikipedia and hence disclosed that I was an editor from Himarsha's team (following the WP:PAID guideline).

I would like to know if there are any additional steps I need to take so as to ensure the content placed on wikipedia page: Himarsha Venkatsamy is not deleted.

If you/any editors have any questions, please reach out to me, I would be happy to answer all queries.

Kind regards, Giselle Figueiredo — Preceding unsigned comment added by HimarshaV (talk • contribs)

@HimarshaV: A few things:

1. Abandon this account; seeing as you are not Venkatsamy yourself, it contravenes Wikipedia's username policy.
2. On your new account's user page, declare your paid relationship with Venkatsamy, you may use {{paid}} to do so.
3. Refrain from editing the article directly, and leave edit requests on the article's talk page, with exactly what you want to add (and where in the article), which are supported by reliable sources.

—Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:17, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Do I have a conflict of interest with my school after I have graduated from it?

I just graduated from North Toronto Christian School. Do I still have a COI? Am I free to edit the article normally? (Even during the time I was at the school, I was not paid, given academic bonuses, or other rewards for editing it, and I kept my editing secret. I removed promotional language from the article.) Félix An (talk) 14:17, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Félix An, reasonably not, if other editors think your edits are problematic per for example WP:PEACOCK or WP:ADVOCACY, you should edit carefully. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:50, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Don't worry, I won't violate either one of those rules. Félix An (talk) 17:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Myself

Can I create my own page?

If you mean a WP-article about you, probably no, see WP:Autobiography. If you mean a WP-article about something else, perhaps, but it takes some reading to learn how. WP:YFA is a start. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:45, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

The Times article on Rembrandt painting

Hello, I am in the process of improving the article for the recently discovered Rembrandt painting Adoration of the Magi. There is an article in The Times about it which I would like to use as a source: [1] Unfortunately, I don't have access to articles in The Times. I would appreciate any help in getting the full text of the article. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 18:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

@Thriley: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for working to make it better. Check out the page WP:RX, where you can ask someone with access to look up that article for you. RudolfRed (talk) 18:31, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed:, Thank you! Thriley (talk) 18:34, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Polk County, Texas

I think in the notable people from Livingston and Polk County, Texas you should include Thomas A. Johnson President of Lamar State College Orange as a notable college educator and administrator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.66.232.235 (talk) 20:56, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

If this person has a Wikipedia article about them, they may be included in that list. 331dot (talk) 21:54, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

How do I start a new bio for a notable person?

I really looked and I didn't see anything that said "Start A New Biography" etc. Help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.210.252.8 (talk) 22:06, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Please see Your first article. Be advised that successfully creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia. I would advise you to gain experience editing existing articles first, to learn more about Wikipedia and what is expected of article content. IP and new users cannot directly create articles, and need to submit drafts using Articles for creation. 331dot (talk) 22:14, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Changing logos and prefered editer

Hey Wikipedia. I am a national member and the chief creative officer for the Unity Party of America. I am attempting to update the site but it tells me it cannot confirm the image uploads I attempt and doesn't see me as a confirmed or preferred editor. How can I resolve this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Party_of_America — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elijahherson (talk • contribs) 23:20, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Can you please let registers users protect their Wikipedia pages please

It isn't "their" Wikipedia page to begin with, and we discourage their editing the article directly. We also don't allow freshly-registered users to upload images, etc. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 23:46, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

As an officer of the party, you are not a "preferred editor" of that article, but the reverse. You have a conflict of interest, and should not edit it at all. If you want to recommend changes to the article, you should give details of your proposed changes on the article's talk page, preferably with supporting references. Maproom (talk) 08:58, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

You seem to be under the misconception that Wikipedia articles somehow "belong" to their subjects. This is not at all true. A Wikipedia article is open to be edited by anyone. JIP | Talk 11:25, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

This makes sense, thank you! I know that the article is open and a public source... not under ownership of the party. I will add suggestions for editing the page but will not edit it myself. I appreciate the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elijahherson (talk • contribs) 14:11, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

June 30

Mike Feuer's Wikipedia Page

Dear Help Desk,

    I hope you are doing well.

I am getting the message "Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page)." on Mike Feuer's Wikipedia Page. Could you please help me. I am just trying to add ==2022 Los Angeles mayoral election== On March 9, 2020, Feuer announced his candidacy for Mayor of Los Angeles. On May 12, 2021, Mike Feuer for LA Mayor put out a video entitled ["Best Friend"] featuring Jason Alexander as Feuer's mustache. And, then I want to connect this source: Stuart, Gwynedd (March 10, 2020). "City Attorney Mike Feuer Is Running for Mayor of Los Angeles". after "Feuer announced his candidacy for Mayor of Los Angeles." Thank you. Best, --Politics Law (talk) 00:37, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Mike_Feuer RudolfRed (talk) 00:38, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

fixed. In this edit [2] you added empty ref tag pair, which is what the error is about. RudolfRed (talk) 00:43, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Citation

Dear Help Team,

   I hope you are doing well.

Can you please point out what is wrong with the following citation: Thank you. Best --Politics Law (talk) 01:15, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

References

I have combined these two threads as (AFAICT) they are both about this article Mike Feuer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). If I'm wrong my apologies. MarnetteD|Talk 01:26, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

References

@Politics Law: if you click the "help" link it will tell you that mikeforla.com is not a valid url. You must include the leading part such as http:// or https://. Are you affiliated with this person in any way? RudolfRed (talk) 01:32, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

How do I combine the infoboxes of this article?

How do I combine the infoboxes of this article? Thank you! Best, Tyrone Madera (talk) 01:21, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Tyrone Madera: They are info boxes of different type. I don't think they can be combined. Can you further explain what you are trying to do and why? RudolfRed (talk) 01:45, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

RudolfRed, I'm trying to include the information about the Period/culture and location of discovery in the infobox. I'm also trying to include medium and subject in the infobox. Neither artifact nor Artwork infoboxes seem to cover all of these fields by themselves. I'm trying to consolidate all of the info that is in both boxes into one infobox, because I hope to convey all of this information at a glance to the reader. Tyrone Madera (talk) 17:22, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Tyrone Madera: You would probably need to ask someone to expand {{Infobox artifact}} so that it can be embeded with a module parameter in {{infobox artwork}} properly. For more info please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes/embed. --CiaPan (talk) 17:45, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

CiaPan, Thank you for your help. I'm going to leave a message on the template talk page. Best, Tyrone Madera (talk) 17:09, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Image not displaying in the article "Plough"

Hello,

Does anyone know why an image in the first gallery at the bottom of the article Plough isn't displaying? Or is it just me? Any help is appreciated. Thanks, DesertPipeline (talk) 03:37, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

It's you. I see the banknote just fine. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:13, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I wouldn't call that last photo "art" though. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:16, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

FWIW, the image from "Project Gutenberg's Young Folks' History of Rome, by Charlotte Mary Yonge" isn't displaying in the article for me, although clicking through to the actual file shows it. This is an amusing coincidence, since I live in the town that Charlotte Mary Yonge named! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.125.73.1 (talk) 06:52, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, good question, It won't appear for me neither, nor does it appear anywhere else it's used. I'll try asking at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). -- œ^™ 08:34, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Image_not_displaying_in_the_article_"Plough". -- œ^™ 08:39, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

St Leonards School

Ref number 2 is a PDF - please fix up - I have tried and failed. thanks in advance. 49.3.204.158 (talk) 05:19, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@49.3.204.158: ref number 2 is a File URL, pointing to a ressource on your own computer. File URL's don't work for anyone but you. Fortunally I was able to trace back the original source from the data in the citation. I have now replaced it with a web citation with an appropiate URL. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:01, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Magazine dating policy

Prompted by a contradiction in Out of This World Adventures, I have a query about the dating of magazines that I could not find an answer to in Wikipedia:WikiProject Magazines/Writing guide.

In the article on the short-lived (2 issues) magazine above, the text refers (in more than one place) to the issues being dated July and December 1950, and the included image of Issue #2's cover shows the date "Dec 1950". (The ISFDb has an image of #1's cover showing "VOL. 1, NO. 1 JULY—25¢.) However, in our article the caption on an image of an interior page of Issue #1 includes ". . . #1, June 1950, . . ." (i.e. not July).

Now, as a collector I am aware that, for at least a century, monthly magazines have usually gone on sale in the month preceding their cover date (if not even earlier), and when titles were more numerous vendors would often treat the printed date of an issue as the prompt to remove it from sale to make room for other publications. Despite this, collectors and commenters in this field (in my not inconsiderable experience) usually take the printed date as that of official publication. (The more recent trend of publishing 13 issues per year has of course exacerbated the, er, issue.) Obviously though, there is scope for confusion.

(As an aside, this question arose out of my cataloguing a copy of Lester del Rey's collection The Early del Rey: Volume 2 (Ballantine 1976) containing the story 'And the Darkness', whose verso attribution is to ". . . Out of This World Adventures, July 1950." Being unfamiliar with this obscure magazine, I naturally turned to Wikipedia for information about it.)

So, my questions are:

(1) Do we have a stated policy anywhere on the use of publication versus actual appearance dates for magazines?

(2) If not, should one be added to The Wikiproject Writing Guide linked above (and/or elsewhere)?

(3) Should I go ahead and change the caption in this particular article to read "July 1950"?

(Discussion here please, as I have a dynamic IP (and am a no-account editor), but read the Helpdesk on a daily basis.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.125.73.1 (talk) 07:46, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: pinging original article creator and maintainer.. see above. -- œ^™ 08:08, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I think the intent of the date (certainly the date field in a citation) is to identify the publication. This date should be then one listed on the cover. If the actual publication date is relevant (e.g., in the body of the text) then I think the text must make describe the discrepancy. For instance, "A story in the November edition, which was distributed in October, caused an uproar before Halloween". -Arch dude (talk) 08:12, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

The picture of Crom was added a couple of years ago by another user, who put the date as June; I think it was just a mistake and have corrected it to July. I've written quite a few magazine articles on Wikipedia and yes, the cover date is always what's used, though in some cases no date is on the cover and then we have to go by sources such as Mike Ashley's histories or Phil Stephensen-Payne's checklists. Anyway, it's fixed now -- thanks for pointing out the error. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:07, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Help needed with tables.

Hey all, can someone please help me with National team appearances in the UEFA European Championship#Hosts. I want to move the second table a bit up so they line up. Also want to move the notes under the first table. How do I do this? Thanks in advance. Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 10:24, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Aquatic Ambiance:, I'm sort of toying with working on this--but a question! The first table refers to "Serbia," and adds the note "as Yugoslavia"--which of course it was, in 1976. But then the second, related table just calls it Yugoslavia. Is there a reason it's not just Yugoslavia--no note needed--in both tables? Uporządnicki (talk) 15:34, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Uporządnicki:, I've already fixed the tables so that's good now. It's Serbia in the first table probably because that's the current country and if it ever hosts again it will add up with it. It's Yugoslavia in the second table because it was in 1976, when it hosted the tournament. At least that's my take on it. Cheers. Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 17:16, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

French Wikipedia

Why did the French Wikipedia remove "Languages" from the bar on the left? I thought they had completely removed the feature and it took me a while to realize that there was something to click on in the upper right corner. It makes navigating between the languages even more cumbersome and counter-intuitive. Is this change also coming to the rest of the Wikipedias? It used to be such a simple list of languages in which the articles were available. The first mistake was to collapse the list and sort them into continents. --2001:16B8:31E1:6C00:41CF:2DDF:D0A1:75E1 (talk) 11:10, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

We cannot help you with issues on other versions of Wikipedia, which are all separate projects. You will need to ask them. 331dot (talk) 11:12, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

This is a feature of the updates to the Vector skin being done as part of the Desktop Improvements, which French Wikipedia is an early adopter of. If you have an account, you can switch back to the old version in your preferences. – Rummskartoffel 15:13, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Rotation period of star about its own axis vs distance from centre of galaxy

Every star in a galaxy rotates about its own axis.How the rotation peroid of a star about its own axis varies with distance of the star from the centre of a galaxy? I mean not the rotation curve of galaxy which gives rotation velocity of stars around centre of galaxy vs distance from the centre of galaxy.I want the spinning speed of stars varies with distance of galaxy from the centre ofgalaxy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4042:61F:8F87:0:0:9C8:28B1 (talk) 13:12, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Help Desk is for questions about using or editing Wikipedia. Questions like yours should be asked at the reference desk -- WP:RD, probably either math or science section. RudolfRed (talk) 14:35, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Why does this template cause the table of contents to be hidden?

I noticed that Peruvian cuisine has no table of contents despite having more than 4 sections and not containing __NOTOC__ in the markup, per WP:TOC. I found that removing Template:Culture of Peru from the article causes the table of contents to appear. Can anyone tell me why this template hides the table of contents? Rublov (talk) 16:20, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

The table of contents, by default, appears before the first section header. Since the template contains a section header (====== Recent ======) in the history section, the table of contents ends up inside the template, and thus invisible unless you expand the template. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:22, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Pppery, should that be considered a bug in the template? Rublov (talk) 16:42, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Rublov, I have replaced the heading format in the template and it seems to have resolved the TOC issue. It might be worth copying this discussion to the template talk page. TSventon (talk) 17:15, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

TSventon, thank you. I will do so. Rublov (talk) 17:19, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

'All pages with suffix' tool?

There is a tool to list all pages with a certain prefix. Is there an equivalent tool for suffixes? Rublov (talk) 16:41, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Rublov: You could perform an intitle: search to get all the pages that have a specific word in it, such as Airport intitle:/Airport/. Maybe someone else could figure out how to limit this to suffixes. GoingBatty (talk) 16:51, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I would have said you should just use Airport intitle:/Airport$/, but $ doesn't appear to be supported. If you don't get a working answer here, consider also asking at the technical village pump. – Rummskartoffel 11:24, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Welcome template

Will someone give me a welcome template?

Thank you for the template.

User:GBFEE welcome, and remember to sign your posts by adding 4 tildes (~~~~) at the end. TSventon (talk) 18:36, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Mulitple Accounts under a Log-in

Hello, Is it possible to create another page under my current log-in? I am working on a company page, but also want to create a page for the CEO of the company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joodia (talk • contribs)

There are several things you should understand here. Wikipedia editor accounts are not tied to Wikipedia articles in any way. So, there is no limit to the number of Wikipedia articles you can create using the same editor account. I myself have created hundreds of articles about various topics. However, Wikipedia is not for promoting or advertising people's own companies, and in particular, editors are very strongly discouraged from creating articles about themselves, their employers, or topics otherwise connected to them, because of an unavoidable inherent bias. So, the answer is two-fold: Otherwise you would be fine to create articles about both, but if you own, are employed by, or are otherwise connected to these entities, you are best advised to just forget about it and wait for someone completely uninvolved to do it instead. JIP | Talk 19:39, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Photo glitch?

Could someone check out the page FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives and examine the photo for Bhadreshkumar Chetanbhai Patel on the list (specifically this photo: [3]. Whenever I set the photo to 100px the image is really blurred, but it works perfectly fine on 99px or 101px (currently set at this). Any reason why this is the case? I've experimented and the photo seems to glitch on any Wikipedia page if it is set to 100px, yet it's fine at 99px or 101px. Inexpiable (talk) 21:27, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

File:Bhadreshkumar Chetanbhai Patel.jpg

File:Bhadreshkumar Chetanbhai Patel.jpg

I've added the photos here to prove my point. As you can see the 100px image is really blurred. If not then maybe it's just my laptop screen? I don't know why it's bugging out. Inexpiable (talk) 21:30, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Inexpiable: They look the same to me. RudolfRed (talk) 21:32, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah I just checked on a different web browser and they look fine. But on my default chrome browser the second image is still really blurred. Any idea why it might be glitching on my chrome browser? Inexpiable (talk) 21:33, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

They both look the same to me as well on Chrome. Maybe it's a zoom level issue? I'm currently using 150% zoom for Wikipedia. Alternatively it might be some sort of odd script conflict, but that's beyond me. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:42, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

They both look identical to me as well, on Firefox. I can't even tell which one is the 100px one and which is the 99px one. JIP | Talk 21:48, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: @Tenryuu: @JIP: No matter what zoom it is on chrome the 100px image is still blurred. If I change it from 100px to any other number it is literally fine. Really odd. I believe it is still showing the original lower quality image from 2019. A comparison between the two files on here shows what I mean [4]. For some reason when set at 100px I am seeing the original low quality image and not the higher res one updated recently. Inexpiable (talk) 21:47, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Inexpiable: Total shot in the dark, but does purging the affected pages or clearing your cache have any effect? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:52, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Thank you I emptied the cache and hard reloaded this page and it did the trick. Still weird how it was only broken at 100px though. Any idea why this happened. Issue is fixed though so thank you. Inexpiable (talk) 22:01, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Inexpiable: Not a tech expert but... I suspect what happened is that you uploaded the lower quality picture on Chrome a while back which corresponded with the 100px size. When someone else uploaded a better quality version, your Chrome decided to continue to use the old one for faster loading. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:15, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

When I have uploaded better versions of images on Commons (to fix too dark white balances), thumbnails of the images on Wikipedia stay the same until I refresh the page. This is because the browser was keeping the images in the cache. Probably the same thing happened here, one version of the image was in the cache but the other one was loaded fresh. JIP | Talk 22:19, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

How to obtain a list of all articles in a category, including via subcategories?

I'm a long-time editor here, but this is more about using Wikipedia than editing it, so I think I'm in the right place. (Feel free to direct me elsewhere if not.)

When a category is split into multiple subcategories, how can I get a single list of articles that are in either the top-level category or the nested categories (or both if that's the case)?

here's an example to put some meat on this. Suppose I would like a list of cities in China (that have Wikipedia articles). A good place to start would be Category:Cities in China by province. But that category has 26 subcategories, so by this approach, I'd need to check 26 different categories. And, in fact, some of them have deeper sub-sub-categorization, often for multiple levels; for example:

Category:Cities in China by province (26 sub-cats, including)

Category:Cities in Fujian (20 articles, but also 12 sub-sub-cats, including)

Category:Fuzhou (41 articles, but also 11 sub-sub-sub-cats; not all of which are categories of "Cities in Fujian", but some are, including)

Category:Fuqing (1 article; a number of sub-sub-sub-sub-cats, but none of them appear to be "Cities in Fujian")

Is there a way to select, say, Category:Cities in China by province and find all articles contained, directly or indirectly, in that category? I'm okay with being over-inclusive and catching some chaff like Wanfu Temple, which is nested under Category:Cities in China by province (by virtue of being in Category:Fuqing) despite not actually being in the set of "Cities in China". TJRC (talk) 23:40, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@TJRC: Categories are a fairly crude form of structured data. Wikipedia has a sister project, Wikidata, that is a full-up formal database for structured data. There is a Wikidata item for each Wikipedia article. It is possible to create a Wikidata query that will return a list of cities in China that have (English) Wikipedia articles, or a list of such cities with Chinese Wikipedia articles, or whatever. You can generally find one of the example queries to use as a guide to building your query. -Arch dude (talk) 00:01, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Wikipedia:PetScan works well for this. However, in this case there is a lot more chaff then you would expect, so the result isn't very useful. Looking at only articles in subcategories of the base category (and not sub-sub-categories) produces 847 results, most of which are actual cities in China. Going one level further than that (articles in sub-sub-categories of the base category) produces 4,661 results, many of which aren't cities. Going one level further (articles in sub-sub-sub-categories of Category:Cities in China by province) procudes over 10,000 results, almost none of which are actual cities. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, both of you. Sounds like Wikidata is the way to go. I spent an afternoon with it and Python a year ago, but just toyed around a little, Maybe I'll dust those attempts off. TJRC (talk) 03:43, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

@TJRC: Unless you need the result as input for further processing, there is no need to use Python. the system will give you the result as a nice human-readable table, with whatever columns you specify. But I agree that playing with Python is just cool.-Arch dude (talk) 16:28, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Python's great for people who want to squeeze the most out of their code. EEng 19:43, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks; I knew that, but Python is my go-to for things like this, and easier to save so when I go back to it a year later it's still there. TJRC (talk) 16:42, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

July 1

WikiProject Proposal

Hello to all you wonderful volunteers!

I'm helping to start a WikiProject with a co-editor who is also passionate about the project. We're not quite sure how to garner the support we need to start the project. I started with leaving a paragraph comment on some users I found in a similar project or with profiles that looked like they'd be interested but I received a message on my talk page to stop because I was being disruptive. I definitely don't want to bother anyone!I've been clicking around the site and trying to learn the proper community culture to abide by but I'm just left a little confused.

Any and all feedback on how to reach out to other users would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you SilmarilElwing 00:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Who is the "co-editor" and who is "we"? What is the exact purpose of the project?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:28, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Tech Repairability TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:38, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

I think I can see what SilmarilElwing is hoping to achieve (though they could explain it more clearly). I am favourably biased because my smartphone, bought three years ago as a newly-released top-of-the range model, recently developed a flat battery, and the repair shop's attempt to replace the battery left it unusable. If Wikipedia could state which consumer goods can be repaired and which have to be junked when they develop a fault, it would help readers, and help to reduce plastic and other waste. Maproom (talk) 08:03, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Maproom, that's a great example of the problem and exactly what I'm talking about.

There are so many manufacturers of tech that plan for these device to become obsolete (parts/components begin to break, batteries no longer hold a charge, etc.) right around the time they release the new hot version that they want everyone to buy. There is such a massive push for thin and sleek designs but not enough (in my opinion) of a push for these things to last a long time. The average consumer can no long access the individual components. It wasn't that long ago that you could swap the battery out of your laptop and cellphone rather than replace the entire device when the longevity of a daily charge began to diminish.

The throw away culture around electronics leads to massive amount of electronic waste and is having a detrimental impact on the environment. We only get one Earth. There is a lot of hype around the process of recycling as the ultimate solution. When really, recycling should be Plan B.

Electronic recycling is a greenwashed process. Recycled electronics are taken away from 1st world countries and often (not always, but often) are being sent to third world countries. Out of site, out of mind. People who live at the final destination of this hazardous waste are being exposed to harmful chemicals from the processes they have to go though to extract the minute amounts of valuable metals within electronic devices. Not to mention that there are a limited amount of precious metals on the planet and creating new electronics and that the process uses a massive amount of water.

The prophylactic Plan A should be that companies scrap the income first thought process of selling more devices to make more money–but I can't control that. What I can control is sharing my opinions and educating the public to help them make more informed decisions around what they're choosing to buy. Before I buy (most anything) I do some research to see the real value for my money and the impact I'll have on the environment. I'm hoping others do the same. I see Wikipedia as a far reaching and trustworthy source of information that I'd love to contribute to.

This became a very long winded explanation, but I'd like for anyone who reads this to understand my perspective.

tldr; I want to help Wikipedia include information on the repairability of common devices to help the general public make informed decisions and choose to buy electronic devices that will last a long time in order to help save the world.

Thank you for taking the time to read this (if you made it this far.)

SilmarilElwing 17:23, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Hmmm. Laudable though that goal is, Maproom and SilmarilElwing, I can't see that it is anything to do with Wikipedia's purposes. For it to serve a purpose like that, it needs to be kept up to date. But (apart from the question of whether there will continue to be volunteer editors who wish to do that), that depends on there happening to be reliable sources published that update the available information. I'm not sure whether WP:NOTDIR or WP:NOTGUIDE is more applicable, but I'm pretty sure that one of them is.

Which is not to say you shouldn't set up this WikiProject. But please take care that its goals are consonant with those of Wikipedia, not contrary to them. --ColinFine (talk) 18:47, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Alternative account

Is it allowed to use an alternative account for maintenance purposes if some of the tasks that will be performed by the account are not mentioned at Wikipedia:Maintenance? LSGH (talk) (contributions) 03:23, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

As long as the account is compliant with WP:VALIDALT I don't see that as a problem. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:31, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

@Beeblebrox: Thanks. Also, is it not considered as avoiding scrutiny if the alternative account is properly disclosed? LSGH (talk) (contributions) 02:56, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

There is a template {{User alternative account|LSGH}} that you can place on the User Page of any/all accounts you use that will show you have no intention of misleading anyone, LSGH, and are using the alternatives for what you consider to be good reasons. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:54, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism help request from Katrazyna

I have noticed some vandalism at Chester, Texas#History. Namely, the history reported has no citations, and after extensive searching, absolutely no evidence it is real. The stated event and named persons do not exist in any known record, even though the indicated notoriety would have gotten them mentioned. In June/July of 2019, the bogus history was replaced by the version of history that my research has indicated as valid, although they also did not include citations. The most recent edit, in April 2021, replaced the real history with the same bogus history. The two original editors (in Apr 2018) that added the bogus history were accounts with no other edits. The most recent reversion to the bogus history was an "ip address". I don't know how to change this and mark it to be watched so that it isn't just replaced again. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, Katrazyna (talk) 06:05, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

This is where I try not to roll my eyes. The named persons appear to be the star football players of a nearby high school (Corrigan, Texas?) Several deleted edits are insults of the opposing football players. Is there a way to prevent this sort of silliness?

The whole history section was unreferenced. I have deleted it, restoring the earlier version (which is also unreferenced, but far more credible). Maproom (talk) 08:09, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Transcluding a section from a page with List-defined references

I was attempting to transclude a section of an article wrapped with onlyinclude, and a group of references inside a List-defined references (reflist|refs=) also wrapped with onlyinclude. The rest is that I'm getting each references twice instead of only once. A simple test at Draft:Sandbox and Draft:Sandbox2. Is this even possible? If so, what am I missing? Gonnym (talk) 10:30, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

There is no any test code in the sandboxes. Ruslik_Zero 16:58, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

There was, but since they are not personal sandboxes, they have since been cleared. FWIW, I looked at the pages earlier today when they were still on the versions edited by Gonnym, and I saw the problem and don't really have an idea what might be done about it. – Rummskartoffel 22:34, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

MAIN PAGE TITLE EDIT -- NAME CHANGE

Hello I need to change the Main Page title to add our new organization name. Is this possible without creating a totally new page?

@Millayarts: Are there any reliable sources that attest to this claim? You should also abandon this account and create a new one, as your current one contravenes Wikipedia's username policy. As you are also writing on behalf of the subject and as such have a conflict of interest, you are strongly discouraged from editing the article, and should limit your involvement to making edit requests on Talk:Millay Colony for the Arts. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

The account got blocked at the same time I finished replying. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:21, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

If they had asked this before spamming the article I would've gone with the soft block, but they didn't really leave that option open. I did check to see about the name change, their website is down and a quick search didn't turn up anything about a name change so for the moment a page move seems ill-advised. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Beeblebrox the old website https://www.millaycolony.org now redirects to https://www.millayarts.org/ and there is an announcement of the name change at https://www.millayarts.org/happenings. TSventon (talk) 13:35, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Huh. They must've just fixed it I guess, that was not the result I got yesterday but there it is. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:40, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft deleting

How do you delete a draft article? 64.229.230.193 (talk) 19:31, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

If you are the only editor that has provided substantial content, you can request an admin to delete the draft by placing {{db-g7}} at the top of the page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:43, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

AfD

I created an article. It was put up for AfD. The result is this: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Killing of Aiden Leos. So, what exactly does this mean? I have been here for some 15-odd years ... and I have only seen "keep" or "delete" as a response to an Afd. What exactly does this result mean? Thanks. I assume it means (something along the lines of) ... "let's keep it as a draft stage article, not a "real article" ... not in main space ... it's not notable right now, but it may be in the future". Am I right? If so, practically speaking, how does that become a "real article" in the future? At what point? And by what procedure?

Also, on a semi-related note ... what options does an editor (like me) have, if I do not agree with the closing editor that there was a "clear consensus" for that result of an AfD? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:18, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: The article is now in draft space at Draft:Killing_of_Aiden_Leos where any interested editors may work to improve it. If you don't agree with the AFD decision, you can take it to Wikipedia:Deletion_review. RudolfRed (talk) 21:24, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I guess my question was ... how and when does an article move from draft-space to main-space? At what point? And by what procedure? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:29, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: We see this from time to time. The closer left info about his/her rationale. The article may be premature, but has future promise. See WP:TOOSOON to describe the scenario in more detail. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:39, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

"Draftify" as a deletion !vote is a fairly recent phenomenon, and honestly it's one I'm glad is an option, especially if an article isn't quite ready yet but has the potential to be good after more editing. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 21:58, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: When the draft is ready to be an article again, any autoconfirmed editor may move it back to article space, or you may submit it for review by placing {{subst:submit}} on it. Reviews can take a long time, but it is an option if you are not comfortable with moving it yourself and want a reviewer's opinion on if it is ready. RudolfRed (talk) 22:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

List of 2021 albums

There is a word called invoke not release of albums by release date can you fix it please. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 22:21, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

At the bottom of List of 2021 albums there is a line that says

#invoke navbox

I suspect that this is because this is such a stupidly long page that it's running out of space to process the template {{Albums by release date}}. But there's no error message, so I may be wrong. --ColinFine (talk) 22:37, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I thought the issue on List of 2021 albums was actually caused by a recent edit to Template:Albums by release date, which I reverted. However, that didn't fix the issue. When you click "Edit source", you'll see a message stating "Warning: Post-expand include size is too large. Some templates will not be included." GoingBatty (talk) 22:37, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

This has been on my to-do list; now resolved with the use of Module:Cite web in place of Template:Cite web. The standard citation template is quite markup-heavy and if you have more than a thousand as List of 2021 albums did it hits the 2 MiB limit. Using the module instead is able to reduce the PEIS by about 50%. User:GKFX^talk 22:45, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the invoke edit. However, I am intending to split the list this weekend, and will not need the invoke addition after the list is split, so I will be undoing the change and removing some additional citations for notable albums that no longer require citations. If, after splitting the list, we reach the size limit again, then we can permanently add the invoke command. Please understand that I appreciate that you can up with a work-around, but the size of the article places it in the top 20 or so of Wikipedia articles, and User:OneTwoThreeIP has been persistent in splitting or deconstructing articles that reach the top 5 or grow above 500,000 characters, so it is time to split the article on my terms. Mburrell (talk) 03:34, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

July 2

Tools for searching edit summaries

Are there any useful tools for searching edit summaries, either by a particular user or in general? Mostly I am curious because it would be useful in finding block-evasions by users that have a tendency towards distinctive edit summaries in some form. --Aquillion (talk) 00:10, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

@Aquillion: You can use the find feature in your browser, if you are looking for specific text on the edit history page, but people trying to evade blocks may not leave summaries. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:22, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

That only works if they have few enough edits to fit on one page; I was hoping for some sort of external edit-counter tool that can search all their edit summaries. Evasions are often caught due to distinctive edit summaries, but it happens when one or both accounts have thousands of edits, giving enough to pour through to establish a pattern (and giving them time to feel safe on their evasion account, so they fall back into familiar patterns.) --Aquillion (talk) 00:24, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

There is toolforge:sigma/summary.py, but that is also limited to 500 revisions. If you don't get a good answer here, try also asking at WP:VP/T. – Rummskartoffel 09:53, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Can someone add (or show me how to add) psyarxiv to the list of open access versions of documents?

We all want open science. We don't want cited articles to be behind a paywall. Can we make it so that cited articles can have their preprints listed so readers can more easily check the citations?

The easiest fix to this would be to expand the other arxiv and open access options (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:CS1_errors#Check_%7Cbiorxiv=_value) to allow citations to OSF and/or psyarxiv DOIs: 10.31234/osf.io/kynez

For example, I want to cite doi: 10.3102/0034654321990713 which is paywalled but want to link to 10.31234/osf.io/kynez which is open access.

Can someone copy the acceptable tag for arxiv or biorxiv to allow for 10.31234 as the stem? Or send me the guide for how to do this?

This is a general forum for relatively simple editing issues, For more technical questions, please visit Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.). TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:17, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Until we get 'round to figuring out how to do a generic {{cite preprint}} (that one is not generic) you can write:

{{cite document |last= |first= |title= |date= |work=PsyArXiv |doi=10.31234/....}}

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:41, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

I would like to have Page Previews instead of Navigation popups when logged in

Ya know Page Previews? It's the default when you hover over a wikilink when you're not logged in. I want Page Preview when I'm logged in, but I can't figure it out in settings.

I've used Navigation popup, but it's not the same- I really want Page Preview. If I disable Navigation popup, Page Preview does not occur when I'm logged in. please help! skakEL 10:41, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Stupid question: do you have Page Previews checked at Preferences → Appearance → Reading preferences? – Rummskartoffel 11:10, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

How do I Converse/Write to other Contributors?

Hi... Firstly thank you for what you all do here at Wikipedia!  :-)

I have read the Talk Page for:Gravitational time dilation.

How: do I converse with the Author/Authors. I can not Identify who wrote what. I need help sorting that out. Once I know who wrote what, is there an, Out of the Public Eye, Forum/Chat? at Wikipedia?

Thanks Much,

What Year Is It?On Our Sun— Preceding unsigned comment added by What Year Is It?On Our Sun (talk • contribs)

What Year Is It?On Our Sun You are welcome to edit that talk page, just as you edited this page, and offer your comments. If you wish to address a specific editor, you can attract their attention by posting on their own user talk page, or by pinging them (putting {{u|User name here}} in your comments, as I did here). If you need to find specific editors to offer comments to, you can examine the edit history of the article in question. Ideally, discussion about Wikipedia should take place here on Wikipedia unless it involves sensitive personal information. There are live chat forums, but I know little about those(but others do and will comment here). 331dot (talk) 15:03, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

@What Year Is It?On Our Sun: If you're looking for live chat venues for Wikipedia, there's the IRC and a Discord server. However, most editors stay on Wikipedia talk pages to discuss building the encyclopedia so that everything stays in one place. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Who deleted the article of "HDClone"?

Hello,

on May, 20th the user Mottezen proposed the deletion of the English article "HDClone" with the following remark:

"Non-notable product of a non-notable company. Relies exclusively on primary sources for all the important content. Links to articles about tips and reviews on this software are noted in the reception rection, though nothing really significant. The "literature" is a list of all the books in which the subject is namedropped." Mottezen (talk) 07:49, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Deletion discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/HDClone

--> I want that deletion of the article I wrote to be revered as it seems completely arbitrary. Therefore I'd like to know the user name of admin, who did this.

First this user restricted his complaint about primary resources to the important content, neither specifying the, in his opinion important content, nor how that's relevant for the importance of the software or the entire article. Second this user states, that links to articles about tips and reviews are nothing really significant, not specifying what would be "really" significant, trying devalue all online sources at once. However magazines like Chip and Computerbild are well known in the origin country of HDClone, with their own Wikipeda article (also in English), thus shouldn't be dismissed as irrelevant sources on a mere feeling. Third all literature mentions are devalued with setting the word literature in quotes (maybe expecting a high value hard cover book) and mere namedropping (admittedly also included), ignoring that "Langkah Cerdas Mengamankan dan Menyelamatkan Data pada Hard Disk" from Madcoms included a short chapter about the usage of HDClone version 3.7 from page 138 on.

The users firefly, TheChronium, TheDreamBoat agree and copy Mottezen's opinion, though don't elaborate on that. Their verdict seems to be based solely on the possibility, that they don't know, or maybe don't like this software.

Based on such argumentation most articles in this list can be deleted as well, with the exact same way of reasoning, except that it won't even be necessary to down-talk the literature mentions, since they don't exist in most cases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_cloning_software

This also goes articles of older cloning software, such as Arconis, Ghost or even the open Clonezilla.

The "HDClone" article I wrote may be in need of a clean-up, focusing on link and reference quality instead of quantity. But it certainly proved to be more relevant than those previous three mentions (and as others on that list as well). And as the only software using a completely different operating system (Symobi), it even provides a unique feature, that sets itself apart from all the other entries on that list (again, even from the open Clonezilla).

Personally I feel quite offended by the arbitrary and pretty much baseless deletion of an article, on which I spent days for the creation and hours for the translation. To me it seems like a there are people within the Wikipedia, who don't know what they should do all day and pick on work of others at random (certainly not all, but some of them). Regardless of the outcome I will overthink my future support of and on Wikipedia (both often anonymously), as it may already be on its unstoppable way of loosing all control, leaving it to those who can afford it. I have other hobbies and other, more deserving welfare projects going in my life on am not in need to continuously battle arbitrary acting pedants.

Why do I feel that way? Because my article was deleted, while other equally bad or worse ones remain untouched. My verdict on the quality of those articles is based on Wikipedia standards and not my opinion of the software which those other articles are about.

If there is an initiative going on, with goal of deleting article like mine, and I'm just one of it's first victims, then I would love to know about that. Also, please add such information to the deletion request. Otherwise I want the unfounded deletion of the article "HDClone" which I wrote to be reverted. And for this I'd like to know the user name of admin, who did this.

Best regards, Jo2root — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jo2root (talk • contribs) 16:18, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Don't take it personally. If the article did not comply with WP:N then it was correctly deleted. The way to fix this is to find sources that show notability. You can go to WP:DRV if you disagree with the AfD results. RudolfRed (talk) 16:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

You may also want to read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. There are six million articles here. No doubt some could be deleted if someone wanted to nominate them. RudolfRed (talk) 16:52, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

You can see the admins who deleted it (twice now) here. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

how do i start a new page

will be writing a page for robert j. andrews, iconographer.

how do i start a new page. he is a living person and one of the top iconographers in the world.

i would not find a page of instructions on how todo it.

thanks, ````

Please, see Help:Your_first_article. Ruslik_Zero 19:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

He does seem to be notable enough. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:35, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

More protection on a page

I'm curious as to why our article on Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine is move-protected. AFAICT, the article had never been moved or unmoved previously, so there's no need to protect it, but mostly I'm just curious about how it ended up that way. If I'm reading the history correctly, the protection got applied with this edit by User:NawlinWiki (courtesy ping, but this is ancient history). Lowercase signmabot applied the template and then User:Tbhotch removed some of the protections (?) here, leaving only the page move protection. I think the protection was only supposed to last two weeks, but somehow stayed on for nearly a decade.
There's no reason for it to be protected at all, but that's just a side issue. Is there any way to find other articles where ancient protections are still stuck long past their need? Matt Deres (talk) 20:07, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

@Matt Deres: Removing or adding a protection template won't change the protection settings an admin assignes. This is a common misconception. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 21:22, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

For disambiguation, create a new stub or a link to a not yet existent entry?

Seeing a list of books by the mathematician Edward E. Moise, I wondered if he had a sideline as a social critic (like Serge Lang.) I went to Wikipedia to check. I had to look a little further. It turns out that here are at least two well published academics with the name Edwin E. Moise, a prominent deceased mathematician and a military historian of the Vietnam war, currently teaching at Clemson University. The mathematician has a full Wikipedia entry which notes, inter alia, that he was "among the few members of the senior faculty at Harvard University who strongly and publicly opposed the Vietnam War." The historian is perhaps notable enough to merit an entry, or perhaps not, but does not have one.

I am a long time but extremely sporadic editor and this is the kind a tweak I thought might help someone else.

What I did: add a sentence after the line in question in the entry for the mathematician. Were there an entry for the historian, I would just add a disambiguation link.

QUESTION 1: If I was sufficiently motivated, would it be appropriate to create an "academic biography stub", minimally populate it with a 1 line bio and selected publications? After all, I have no intention of doing more and it is merely to be able to disambiguate.

Question 2: Should I just move that line up to disambiguation with a link to a not yet existent entry? Well, actually, I just did that but maybe I should delete one or the other.

Advice?