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April 6

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 6, 2022.

Rapido_Trains

Rapido Trains is a Canadian model train manufacturer. Arnold Rapido is a brand previously used by the German model train manufacturer Arnold but I believe no longer used. I I do not believe "Rapido Trains" was ever used as a brand by Arnold. I believe most people searching for "Rapido Trains" will be looking for the Canadian manufacturer, and so in the absence of a page for them "Rapido Trains" should redirect to the "Rapido" disambiguation page which lists the Canadian manufacturer, as well as providing a link to the page on Arnold for those looking for it. --Eldomtom2 (talk) 20:23, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prefixes and suffixes in Hebrew

I think delete because suffixes in Hebrew exists, or redirect to Modern Hebrew grammar § Prepositions QuickQuokka [⁠talk • contribs] 20:00, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Modern Hebrew grammar where both prefixes and suffixes are discussed throughout the article. I will add hatnotes at that sectionlinks in the "see also" section to the two specific articles (and remove the link to this redirect there). At first glance it looks like a textbook WP:XY situation, but upon digging there originally was an article at this title that was WP:SPLIT into the two extant articles. The history is a little confusing probably because of a copy/paste move. There was an attempt to turn this into a disambiguation page which was eventually WP:PRODed and then WP:BLARed to its current target. In any case, this should be kept for its page history and for keep any old links intact, particularly external ones. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:54, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian prisoners

Not sure why we would assume that this phrase refers to POWs in the most recent war when it could easily refer to prisons in Armenia or Armenian prisoners in other conflicts/contexts. I think that deletion to allow for internal search results is most appropriate here. signed, Rosguill talk 19:08, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

More redirects with no space before disambiguator

Delete all per WP:RDAB due to the lack of space between the title and the disambiguator. Each of these redirects' properly-spaced variants exist and target the same target as their respective nominated redirect. Also, none of these redirects have incoming links from the article space. (See recent related discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 24#Redirects with no space before disambiguator that target spaced title.) Steel1943 (talk) 18:58, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Steel1943: do we need a discussion for fixing double redirects? VQuakr (talk) 19:23, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(Note: This comment is specific to October(poem) unless stated otherwise.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Virtual threads

Virtual threads are not synonymous with Green threads, because green threads were one implementation of virtual threads, which is a larger concept. Therefore this redirect prevents review of a draft of a separate article on Draft:Virtual threads. There should be two separate articles, each cross-referencing the other.

It seems that the best way to resolve this issue is by discussing deleting the redirect (and then deleting the redirect, permitting two articles). Robert McClenon (talk) 18:56, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kia/Gia

Unneeded Qwv (talk) 17:21, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Pronouns

Proposing retarget to {{Pronoun}}. This redirect is unused, and it's target is used on a single page. It appears that some editors (see Template talk:Personal pronouns) come up to this redirect as a mistake while trying to look for the significantly used {{Pronoun}} instead. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 15:08, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Genetics and skin disease

Potential WP:XY issue: Genetics and Skin disease represent two distinct topics, and the target article does not seem to represent a combination of the two topics. Steel1943 (talk) 06:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:41, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of royal visits by Queen Elizabeth II

As an American, I would have expected this to point to List of state visits made by Elizabeth II. I take it "royal visits" is understood to mean to Commonwealth realms? If this is widely understood throughout the Commonwealth, maybe this is just a case for hatnotes. But given the existing hatnote at List of state visits made by Elizabeth II, and the fact that her visits to Commonwealth realms are a logical subtopic, I recommend retargeting.

Note also that Royal visit redirects to State visit. --BDD (talk) 14:39, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

League per Salvini Premier

This redirect was coming from an original typo or bad translation (which was mixing English "League" and Italian "per"). I propose its deletion. It was formerly pointing to Lega per Salvini Premier (all in Italian). Another valid redirect is League for Salvini Premier (all in English). But this mixed version is highly unlikely to be searched and used by readers. Yakme (talk) 11:42, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian Revolution of 2013

There wasn't any 'Ukrainian revolution of 2013', so this seems to be an implausible misnomer. The revolution happened in 2014, and we have an article on it, Revolution of Dignity. The question is, do we delete this redirect, redirect it to Revolution of Dignity (as a potential typo), or leave it tied to the article on the Euromaidan movement, which does include 2013 events (though they were not yet a revolution at that stage)? RGloucester — ☎ 04:04, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Both articles’ intros support the idea that the protests led to the revolution, and one could conceive of the two as a four-month “revolution.” As a reader following the link is expecting an article about something that started in 2013, I would prefer keeping the redirect as is, but I’m also fine with changing it to the other. —Michael Z. 17:24, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I lean toward deletion per WP:XY: Euromaidan was not (generally described by reliable sources as) a revolution, and the Revolution of Dignity did not take place in 2013, so it's not obvious which of the two directions to correct in. However, it's at least a closer to match to the latter (to which Ukrainian Revolution of 2014 redirects, and which does characterize a build-up starting in 2013), so my second choice would be a retarget there. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:02, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:40, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I find it a close call between Keep and Delete, but I think re-targeting to Revolution of Dignity would be a mistake. That re-targeting tends to imply that 2013 had nothing to do with it, which is misleading. Without this redirect, the possible-match list that drops down when typing in the search box would show "Ukrainian Revolution of 2013-14", which acknowledges the 2013 roots of the 2014 revolution. Google for the redirect-title phrase shows both articles together at the top, with Revolution of Dignity first. Overall, delete seems best to me. --R. S. Shaw (talk) 20:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 05:32, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still no consensus after two relists. One more try…
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:11, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per Tavix, though I've gone ahead and tagged it with {{R from incorrect name}}. My gut says that even today, Euromaidan is a more familiar term for the average enwiki reader than Revolution of Dignity, though the articles are so well interlinked, I don't feel strongly that this must point to one or the other. --BDD (talk) 14:46, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nation of Israel

Retarget to Israelis based off of precedent like Irish nation, Nation of Pakistan or Pakistani nation. See also Jewish nation redirect. Balkovec (talk) 08:33, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nation of Taiwan

Retarget to Taiwanese people. Balkovec (talk) 08:30, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nation of China

Redirect to Chinese people, based off of precedent from other '_ nation' redirects like Irish nation, Nation of Pakistan or Pakistani nation. BTW, I plan to propose merging Zhonghua minzu into Chinese people#Zhonghua minzu (the "Chinese nation"). Balkovec (talk) 08:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Online class

In my opinion, these titles, along with Online learning, mainly refer to Distance education, particularly the recent subset of distance education that is online. I think this might be the primary topic, however, maybe others disagree. Do these terms refer to online technology that may be used while students are physically in a classroom? Is there a difference between the meaning of these terms? —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 04:03, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak target to the DAB, else Target both at Distance education. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 05:22, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 06:56, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Slow Blind Driveway

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

No mention of this name at the target, nor could searching yield any proof that Gorka ever used this name. Appears to be linked to a long term hoax at WP:LOHOW. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:18, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Noting previous RFD: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 19#Slow Blind Driveway.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 01:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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National Hydrographic Office

Should these target the same place? The Indian NHD department is the only one I've found with any signficant content about a national hydrographic office, but the list includes other offices with this exact name about which we don't have articles (e.g. Oman, which also gets passing mentions elsewhere). Category:National hydrographic offices shows we have articles about similarly named organisations at least some of which this would be a plausible search term. That category notes the lowercase title as the main article, but it has only ever been a redirect. However this revision from 2016 of Hydrographic office was an article with a list. The redirection of that appears to have been done boldly by Boris Kaiser "due to overlap", see Talk:Hydrographic office. I've run out of time to investigate further. Thryduulf (talk) 22:09, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 06:47, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Latin Portuguese

Not mentioned at the target, nor are cognate terms mentioned at the linked ptWiki article. Searching both the internet and Google Scholar in both English and Portuguese, all results appear to be about documents written in a mix of Portuguese and Latin, rather than Brazilian Portuguese. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:09, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 06:45, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Compare also to Latin Spanish, which redirects to Spanish language in the Americas. --BDD (talk) 19:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mahachanok

This redirect currently targets Mahanipata Jataka#Mahajanaka, an article that does not contain a section called "Mahajanaka" and does not mention "Mahachanok", although it contains a section called "2. Prince Mahajanaka (the lost prince) - Act of vigour". Perhaps "Mahachanok" is an alternative name for that lost prince. There is no hatnote about the term in that article, but there is an article at Mahachanok (mango) about a highly notable mango cultivar. The term is also mentioned with a non-mango meaning in the articles Imam Pasand and Wat Pathum Khongkha, and there is a variant of the term as "Maha Chanok" that is a partial string match to red links for Pathum Borom Maha Chanok in several articles such as Vajirananavarorasa. Should "Mahachanok" become a dab page? Should a mention be added in Mahanipata Jataka#Mahajanaka? Should Mahachanok (mango) be moved to "Mahachanok" (or "Maha Chanok")? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:41, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Mahachanok is simply the romanised Thai pronunciation of the name Mahajanaka, which seems to be the mango's namesake. (It was named by King Bhumibol Adulyadej, who also wrote a version of the Mahajanaka story where a mango tree plays a prominent allegorical role near the end.) Since PohranicniStraze created the mango article at the disambiguated title, I assumed that the jataka tale was understood to be the primary topic, and redirected the plain name there accordingly. (The Mahanipata Jataka article could do with some major reworking, and the section titles should be shortened. But anyway, I've added the anchor that I apparently forgot when making the redirect. I do think Mahajanaka could and should eventually be a standalone article.) Whether the mango has actually become the primary topic in English usage, I'm not sure. Google News results are indeed mainly about the mango, though Google Books shows results mostly about the jataka. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:18, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm a bit on the fence between a disambiguation of the term and a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to the mango article with a hatnote. This is a WP:TWODABS situation, and I suspect most Wikipedia readers are looking for the mango, especially when considering that there isn't much information available on Wikipedia about the jataka, and what is provided is not very extensive. I think I lean slightly toward the mango as the primary meaning for Wikipedia readers, but I would be happy to defer to using disambiguation if your opinion differs. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Avatar: The Last Airbender – Agni Kai

Redirect title is not used in target article. Tube·of·Light 13:38, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Delete - 'Agni Kai' refers to, in the franchise's broader story context, a fire-bending duel for the sake of one's own honor, and it isn't something that would be detailed in the article cited here. Deletion looks like the best option to me. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:06, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1–2 finish

This redirect is misleading, and basically an WP:EGG redirect. 1-2 finishes are not unique to Formula One, or even motorsport. It is unreasonable to assume that most, (or even 5% of) people looking up 1-2 finish, are looking for a Formula One stat. SSSB (talk) 11:34, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 06:38, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bettettnad

Confusing search term which is not mentioned at target article. Not sure if any connection exists between the redirect and the article's subject, and why it even points there to begin with. CycloneYoris talk! 06:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Likely a misspelt word of Vettathunad that is mentioned in the lead of the article Kingdom of Tanur. There is nothing like the term Bettettnad documented anywhere in South Indian history records and is better to keep the redirect as it is.R.COutlander07@talk 09:35, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Insider Community Board

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the article's subject unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 05:20, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:48, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Estru

Apparently a misspelling of Estrus leaving off the final s, no more plausible than any other misspelling, so this redirect is WP:COSTLY and merits deletion. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:44, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ostrus

This is a misspelling for Oestrus, but is also a surname (though there are currently no articles for anyone with the surname, there is a mention at Buddy Holly (album)). This redirect doesn't seem to be doing anyone any good, delete to avoid potential confusion/astonishment. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:37, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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