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CommonsDeLinker keeps deleting my Files and Media for an Article
article in question is about Francisco lugo viña molina, a Spanish nobleman. He has a painting.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Francisco_Lugo-Vi%C3%B1a_Molina
You can look the article for yourself and edit if you want to. But is there a Way to stop CommonsDeLinker? Ive tried Three Times. I just uploaded the image to WikiData but it always gets deleted. Any help would be great! Ayyyple2 (talk) 19:32, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ayyyple2, User:CommonsDelinker's edit summary says:
Removing Franciscolugoviña.jpg; it has been deleted from Commons by Fitindia because: Media uploaded without a license as of 2023-03.
Please upload your media with a license. That can be found on commons:COM:Licensing Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 19:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)- I dont know what License the Painting has, i do not own it. Its in a museum but i have no idea... Ayyyple2 (talk) 19:39, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ayyyple2, you need to determine the copyright status of any image you upload before uploading it. If you need help, there is a place to ask over on Commons (which is where most images are hosted): here. There's also WP:MCQ on English Wikipedia. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 19:44, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ill try.... ill try Ayyyple2 (talk) 07:00, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ayyyple2 Since the portrait was painted about 1800, it will be in the Public Domain now, provided the image you upload is a simple photograph of a 2D painting, presumably available from the Museum's website. However, the presence or not of the portrait won't influence whether the article is accepted, so I suggest you wait and see if it is. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:17, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- It is public domain, but everytime i upload it it gets deleted for no copyright, but i selected no copyright! Can you help me Ayyyple2 (talk) 20:40, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's not "no copyright", it's "public domain". That needs to be explicitly specified. If you use the UploadWizard, you should be able to select that setting from a set of options in the web form. signed, Rosguill talk 20:46, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ill try, if it gets deleted again, i give up... Ayyyple2 (talk) 19:07, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's not "no copyright", it's "public domain". That needs to be explicitly specified. If you use the UploadWizard, you should be able to select that setting from a set of options in the web form. signed, Rosguill talk 20:46, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- It is public domain, but everytime i upload it it gets deleted for no copyright, but i selected no copyright! Can you help me Ayyyple2 (talk) 20:40, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ayyyple2 Since the portrait was painted about 1800, it will be in the Public Domain now, provided the image you upload is a simple photograph of a 2D painting, presumably available from the Museum's website. However, the presence or not of the portrait won't influence whether the article is accepted, so I suggest you wait and see if it is. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:17, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ill try.... ill try Ayyyple2 (talk) 07:00, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ayyyple2, you need to determine the copyright status of any image you upload before uploading it. If you need help, there is a place to ask over on Commons (which is where most images are hosted): here. There's also WP:MCQ on English Wikipedia. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 19:44, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- I dont know what License the Painting has, i do not own it. Its in a museum but i have no idea... Ayyyple2 (talk) 19:39, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Help renaming a draft
I just did my first page, but I messed up the name. It's called Draft:Initial. How do I fix it? Ai-ml-enthusiast (talk) 23:26, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, @Ai-ml-enthusiast, and Welcome to the Teahouse. The only way to fix it is by moving the page, but you don’t have the permissions to do so. I can move the draft for you. What do you want the new title to be? - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:58, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have moved the page to Draft:Signifyd. If this is the wrong title let me know, and I can move it somewhere else. Welcome to Wikipedia! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 00:05, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Perfect! Thanks so much! Ai-ml-enthusiast (talk) 05:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ai-ml-enthusiast Your draft would be much better if the citations used the {{cite web}} template: see that link and WP:REFB. The current use of "retrieved from..." is not how we usually do things and makes the URL visible as a distraction to readers. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:00, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Converted! Thanks for the tip! Ai-ml-enthusiast (talk) 01:19, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ai-ml-enthusiast The draft looks much better but will, I think, fail to be accepted if/when you submit it to WP:AfC. The problem is that you haven't (in my opinion) got over the hurdle of showing that the company is notable as defined by Wikipedia. Most of the content is WP:RUNOFTHEMILL stuff that all companies do. The more promising parts, where you say they have won awards (e.g. refs #13, #14), lead to sponsored awards of dubious value that seem to be given out to a large number of entities. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:52, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Gotcha. I was trying to do a total profiling of the Chargeback_insurance space because the companies operating in it were early adopters of AI/ML in their business. This was the only player that didn't already have a page; the others being Riskified, Forter, and ClearSale. You're right about the "best places to work" awards. I'll cut that. I think the fast company one is more exclusive. There's also the Four-day workweek element which I thought was interesting. Ai-ml-enthusiast (talk) 14:57, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ai-ml-enthusiast The draft looks much better but will, I think, fail to be accepted if/when you submit it to WP:AfC. The problem is that you haven't (in my opinion) got over the hurdle of showing that the company is notable as defined by Wikipedia. Most of the content is WP:RUNOFTHEMILL stuff that all companies do. The more promising parts, where you say they have won awards (e.g. refs #13, #14), lead to sponsored awards of dubious value that seem to be given out to a large number of entities. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:52, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Converted! Thanks for the tip! Ai-ml-enthusiast (talk) 01:19, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ai-ml-enthusiast Your draft would be much better if the citations used the {{cite web}} template: see that link and WP:REFB. The current use of "retrieved from..." is not how we usually do things and makes the URL visible as a distraction to readers. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:00, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Perfect! Thanks so much! Ai-ml-enthusiast (talk) 05:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
Is it a violation of WP:PRIVACY if you trace someone's IP and mention the university in talk?
I came across a comment on a talk page where an editor traced an unregistered IP editor to a university and referred to them explicitly:
I want to thank the Duke University IP address(es) for this opportunity to re-examine the Wikipedia article about GISAID from his/her perspective.
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:GISAID#A_response_from_an_experienced_editor
Is this a violation of WP:PRIVACY? Looking up an IP is not difficult, but it's not necessary and makes the IP editor potentially identifiable by others who come across the page. AncientWalrus (talk) 06:11, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi AncientWalrus. I don't think it would be since it doesn't specifically identify an account with an particular person. An IP address is public information and as you say anyone could look it up if they want. When someone edits using an IP, they are essentially making themselves
potentially identifiable by others who come across the page
as soon as they click "Publish changes"; so, they seem to be sort of WP:OUTING themselves in a sense. Having said that, you could ask about this at WP:OVERSIGHT or WP:AN to see what an oversighter or administrator might think. I'm neither, but I don't think this is something they would consider a violation of OUTING. Finally, for future reference, if you do come across anything that really seems like OUTING in the future, it's probably better just to seek oversighter or administrator assistance right away (preferably by email if possible) instead of possibly creating more stuff that may need to be cleaned up later by posting about it in too much detail on other Wikipedia pages or general noticeboards like the Teahouse. Oversighters and administrators are able to revision delete or suppress content that is a serious violation of Wikipedia policy and shouldn't be publicly visible, and they will be better able to limit the cleanup that needs to be done. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:52, 25 March 2023 (UTC)- @AncientWalrus: I'm an administrator, and in my view, there is nothing wrong. An IP address location is public information. At the bottom of every IP address talk page is a "whois" link to look up information about that IP address; Wikipedia is actually aiding you in doing this, if you choose to do so. You are actually more anonymous if you create an account. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Understood! So not considered doxing, but there's still the question why one would bring it up. It's still a personal attack. But that wasn't mh question. AncientWalrus (talk) 14:16, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- It may not violate privacy concerns, but it is part of a pattern of pretty aggressive behaviour of that particular editor on that talk page. You may want to raise those issues at the appropriate place. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 19:16, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can you recommend what the appropriate place would be? AncientWalrus (talk) 00:28, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- I am pretty new, but I think if you believe that there is a chance to get the person to engage in a civil discussion it would be Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard. And if there is no real hope for that Wikipedia:Administrators noticeboard/Incidents. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 00:48, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can you recommend what the appropriate place would be? AncientWalrus (talk) 00:28, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- It may not violate privacy concerns, but it is part of a pattern of pretty aggressive behaviour of that particular editor on that talk page. You may want to raise those issues at the appropriate place. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 19:16, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Understood! So not considered doxing, but there's still the question why one would bring it up. It's still a personal attack. But that wasn't mh question. AncientWalrus (talk) 14:16, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @AncientWalrus: I'm an administrator, and in my view, there is nothing wrong. An IP address location is public information. At the bottom of every IP address talk page is a "whois" link to look up information about that IP address; Wikipedia is actually aiding you in doing this, if you choose to do so. You are actually more anonymous if you create an account. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- I once wrote on an article talkpage "Hello IP:s from Maryland!", thus indicating that since the subject was from Maryland, maybe... Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:46, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry I don't understand, can you explain?There's maybe a difference between saying: it's someone from Maryland or from a specific university. That restricts people quite a lot in a narrow field (virologyl/bioinformatics). AncientWalrus (talk) 14:14, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @AncientWalrus Sorry, that was pretty obscure. Here:Talk:Catherine_Nakalembe#Hello_IP:s_from_Maryland. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:14, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, now it makes sense :) AncientWalrus (talk) 16:21, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @AncientWalrus Sorry, that was pretty obscure. Here:Talk:Catherine_Nakalembe#Hello_IP:s_from_Maryland. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:14, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry I don't understand, can you explain?There's maybe a difference between saying: it's someone from Maryland or from a specific university. That restricts people quite a lot in a narrow field (virologyl/bioinformatics). AncientWalrus (talk) 14:14, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
It may not be against the rules, but it's kind of creepy. Smallchief (talk) 14:30, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
Nevada State Museum website permission
I have been in contact with the Nevada State Museum, Las Vegas, to post some of their collection images on Wikipedia, specifically concerning items related to Folies Bergere at The Tropicana Hotel Las Vegas. They expressed interest in participating in this article and sent me a permissions form with a section on websites. The form seemed more generic and did not use Wikipedia Creative Commons terms. Do you have any suggestions on how to move forward with the museum? Gumballhead1of2 (talk) 09:47, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Gumballhead1of2. You could try sending the museum something along the lines of WP:PERMISSION or c:COM:EMAIL and see if they'd be willing to release their content as explained on those pages. While CC license are easily to use for Wikipedia purposes, the museum might be able to craft it's own license if its own words as long as it's compatible one of the acceptable license found at c:COM:CC. The two main things that are going to be need to be sorted out. The first one is the provenances of the images; in other words, whether the museum actually is the copyright holder of the images in question. Having possession of an image doesn't necessarily make one the copyright holder of the image. If the museum got the images from someone or somewhere else, then they might not be the original copyright holder of the images. If they took a bunch of old images of unknown provenance and just digitalized them, then whether that's sufficient to establish a new copyright on their version seems to be a gray area and might be seen as some as copyfraud; so, the more you can find out about the provenance of each image, the better for Wikipedia or Commons purposes. The next thing is, assuming the museum is the copyright holder of the images, going to be to see whether the museum is willing to release the images without any restrictions on commercial or derivative reuse. Non-commercial (NC) and non-derivative (ND) types of licenses are unacceptable for Commons purposes as explained in c:COM:LJ and there's pretty much no way around that since Commons doesn't accept any type of fair use content as explained in c:COM:FAIR. Wikipedia does, however, allow such content to be uploaded locally as non-free content, but Wikipedia's non-free content use policy is more restrictive than fair use as explained in WP:NFC#Background and there are quite a lot of restrictions placed on such use. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:27, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for the detailed feedback. I will follow up with the Nevada State Museum. Gumballhead1of2 (talk) 10:46, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Copyright Image [?]
I am asking because supposedly AI-Generated images have no copyright infringement, I uploaded https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Cat_on_Skateboard_AI.png is this okay? 多多123 (✉ • ✎) 15:42, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @多多123 Actually, I don't think so. Per [1] you made this with something called https://www.bing.com/create (I get to see a Swedish-language version). That page has a link to terms of agreement (again, Swedish for me), which states that you can use the creations outside their online services, for personal, non-commercial purposes. "Non-commercial" kills it, Commons-wise, and perhaps "personal" kills it even more. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:01, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, okay, I will get to deleting it. 多多123 (✉ • ✎) 16:02, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- How do I delete an image on WikiMedia? 多多123 (✉ • ✎) 16:03, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @多多123 At [2] you should see "Nominate for deletion" in the column of links on the left. At least if you're on a laptop or in "desktop view". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:45, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I found it 40 minutes ago, it will at least take a few hours. 多多123 (✉ • ✎) 16:50, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Commons:Deletion requests/Speedy deletion is an option. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:01, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can you do it instead, if possible? 多多123 (✉ • ✎) 17:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- The image was correctly nominated for deletion. I added my delete !vote. All we can do now is wait. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:08, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Like always. 多多123 ( ✉ • ✎ ) 18:13, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Do I need to put Wikimedia commons copyright on TWA badges which I use in an image? [3] (Imgur link) 多多123 (✉ • ✎) 19:07, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- The image was correctly nominated for deletion. I added my delete !vote. All we can do now is wait. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:08, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can you do it instead, if possible? 多多123 (✉ • ✎) 17:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Commons:Deletion requests/Speedy deletion is an option. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:01, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I found it 40 minutes ago, it will at least take a few hours. 多多123 (✉ • ✎) 16:50, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @多多123 At [2] you should see "Nominate for deletion" in the column of links on the left. At least if you're on a laptop or in "desktop view". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:45, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Gråbergs Gråa Sång I am curious about the license, because it seems to pretty directly conflict with: https://www.bing.com/new/termsofuse?FORM=GENTOS and this: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement. Could you post the link? 165.166.111.18 (talk) 17:16, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- The terms of agreement I referred to was [4], #7. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:49, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Your other link says "Bing and Microsoft Start Materials. The articles, text, photos, maps, videos, video players, and third-party material available on Bing and Microsoft Start, including through Microsoft bots, applications and programs, are for your noncommercial, personal use only. " Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:52, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Category move help
Hi, can someone move en:Category:Telangana ministry to Category: Telangana ministries similar to the other categories under this big category - en:Category:Indian state and territorial ministries for consistency and accuracy. Thank you. 456legend(talk) 18:53, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @456legend: Welcome to the Teahouse! To request the renaming of a category, see WP:CFDS. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:54, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty Thank you 456legend(talk) 13:30, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Notability of football athletes
What policy page currently governs the determination of whether an article about a football (non-American) player should be deleted because of that person's not being notable or, potentially, the absence of an A7 claim of significance? The problem is that WP:ATHLETE claims that a very broad class of people are notable for certain sports, but not football (and, say, rugby), and says that sports not named are only subject to WP:SPORTBASIC. Meanwhile, WP:SPORTBASIC alone doesn't justify the thousands of pages about football players one can find at e.g. Category:England international footballers. Wuffuwwuf (talk) 19:26, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Am I right that it's WP:NSPORTS2022? If yes, what (I'm seriously asking) is the reason such articles have not been deleted by now? Wuffuwwuf (talk) 19:34, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Wuffuwwuf. There used to be a specific notability guideline for association football commonly called "WP:NFOOTY", but after a monumental and somewhat bitter discussion, that guideline was removed and WP:SPORTBASIC is currently the applicable standard. Cleaning up the massive number of stubs about non-notable footballers will take years. Cullen328 (talk) 19:40, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, you found the discussion. Existing articles need to be evaluated on their merits, which is a lot of work, and there remains widespread opposition to deletion. Cullen328 (talk) 19:42, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you. Wuffuwwuf (talk) 19:44, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- If you continue to tag clearly notable articles (such as England international footballers) for deletion, you will be blocked. GiantSnowman 10:56, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Wow! How many venues did you post this message to, anyway? Wuffuwwuf (talk) 13:55, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- If you continue to tag clearly notable articles (such as England international footballers) for deletion, you will be blocked. GiantSnowman 10:56, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you. Wuffuwwuf (talk) 19:44, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, you found the discussion. Existing articles need to be evaluated on their merits, which is a lot of work, and there remains widespread opposition to deletion. Cullen328 (talk) 19:42, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Wuffuwwuf. There used to be a specific notability guideline for association football commonly called "WP:NFOOTY", but after a monumental and somewhat bitter discussion, that guideline was removed and WP:SPORTBASIC is currently the applicable standard. Cleaning up the massive number of stubs about non-notable footballers will take years. Cullen328 (talk) 19:40, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
Unusual ISBN
The ISBN which appears at https://archive.org/details/caligulacorrupti0000anth/page/n7/mode/2up is CN 6816 resulted in "the appearance of {{cite book}}
: Check |isbn=
value: invalid character (help)" after I entered it the ISBN field and clicked Publish changes. Since it isn't a standard ISBN I wasn't surprised. I deleted it but wondered if there's a way it can be included anyway. Mcljlm (talk) 20:14, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Mcljlm. Template:cite book says "In very rare cases, valid identifiers (f.e., as actually printed on publications) do not follow their defined standard format or use non-conforming checksums, which would typically cause an error message to be shown. Do not alter them to match a different checksum. In order to suppress the error message, some identifiers (
|doi=
,|eissn=
,|isbn=
,|issn=
, and|sbn=
) support a special accept-this-as-written markup which can be applied to disable the error-checking (as|<param>=((<value>))
). If the problem is down to a mere typographical error in a third-party source, correct the identifier value instead of overriding the error message". - I think it is saying you can use
isbn=((CN 6816))
. ColinFine (talk) 00:13, 26 March 2023 (UTC) - @Mcljlm: That is not an ISBN number. Guild Publishing has their own system of CN numbers. Somebody screwed up and wrote ISBN right before it. https://www.abebooks.com/Caligula-Corruption-Power-Anthony-A-Barrett/16652207621/bd says "ISBN 10: 0300046537 / ISBN 13: 9780300046533", and later "Guild Publishing Edition : CN 6816". Your link says 1989 but several book sources at ISBN 9780300046533 say it's from 1990. Maybe your link is from an early version before it actually got an ISBN number. I imagine somewhere it said "ISBN [large blank space] CN 6816", and some intern (always blame the intern) changed it to a single space. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:53, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- 1989 is the date of the UK edition (see the British Library entry[1]). I changed the citation from the 1990 US edition to the 1989 edition in the Historical accuracy section of Incitatus. Looking at the Secondary sources section of Caligula now I notice 978-0-7134-5487-1 appears as the ISBN. Would it better to enter that, leave the citation as it is now, or do something else? Mcljlm (talk) 12:38, 26 March 2023 (UTC) Mcljlm (talk) 12:38, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- This search shows a number of books, from different publishers, presented with that odd "ISBN: CN xxxx". ColinFine (talk) 15:26, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Explore the British Library Search - caligula the corruption of power / barrett". explore.bl.uk. Retrieved 2023-03-26.
Talk Page colors
Hey y'all. This is not a question of technicality or the like, but I would like to ask why are templates in the talkspace are colored sepia instead of the default white-grey? Crusader1096 (message) 22:39, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Which templates? Where? A template has no colour unless it has been defined as such. ColinFine (talk) 15:27, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @ColinFine: Hi there! @Knightoftheswords281 might be referring to templates at the top of articles (e.g. {{orphan}}) vs. templates at the top of article talk pages (e.g. {{WikiProject Biography}}). GoingBatty (talk) 16:03, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Draft:Tropical cyclone Bopha (2006)
help edit my draft pls ok Draft:Tropical Bopha (2006) 122.2.116.213 (talk) 02:02, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- 2006 Pacific typhoon season already has a well-referenced section on Severe Tropical Storm Bopha. You can copy that into your draft as long as you acknowledge in your Edit summary where the content and refs were taken from. The real question is can you add more detail to your draft. The season article has a few links to separate articles about other tropical storms. Those may be models for the type of additional information you should seek. Those details may be in the existing references, or you may need to find more references. David notMD (talk) 08:44, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @David notMD: edit ok 122.2.116.213 (talk) 08:51, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @David notMD you not vandalize me and not blocked 122.2.116.213 (talk) 09:02, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- I am not the editor who reverted some of your edits. I am not the editor who warned on your Talk page that you may be blocked. David notMD (talk) 09:06, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @122.2.116.213 not vandalism edit and @David notMD ok for Draft:Tropical cyclone Bopha (2006) 122.2.116.213 (talk) 09:36, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- I am also not a reviewer. David notMD (talk) 16:50, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @122.2.116.213 not vandalism edit and @David notMD ok for Draft:Tropical cyclone Bopha (2006) 122.2.116.213 (talk) 09:36, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- I am not the editor who reverted some of your edits. I am not the editor who warned on your Talk page that you may be blocked. David notMD (talk) 09:06, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @David notMD you not vandalize me and not blocked 122.2.116.213 (talk) 09:02, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @David notMD: edit ok 122.2.116.213 (talk) 08:51, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Anti-LGBTQ+ statement on User Page
Hello Teahouse. Is it allowed for someone to have the following on their User Page: "I have strong views against the LGBTQ+ community"?
If not, where should I report this please? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 02:54, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @MrsSnoozyTurtle: I view a statement like that as a disclosure of a conflict of interest, and such disclosures are encouraged for every editor. An editor with a conflict of interest should stick to the talk page for articles having topics related to the conflict of interest. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:29, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think this might be WP:POLEMIC? -- asilvering (talk) 04:50, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @MrsSnoozyTurtle I found the person you are talking about. While it's disappointing that they have such views, I looked through their activity and it's 90% on their user page and probably about 10% biographies of engineers. They at least don't seem to be actively promoting anti-lgbt ideas. They kinda come off as a possible sockpuppet though. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 05:34, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ask them to remove it. If they don't, WP:ANI is right that way. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 08:10, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed, request them to remove it and report at ANI otherwise. One of our pillars is WP:CIVILITY and homophobic editors should keep it off Wikipedia or find another platform. The fact this doesn’t seem to impact their main activity is promising to hear, but all the more the reason why their views on LGBTQ community are not relevant to Wikipedia. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 09:13, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- People have all sorts of userboxes that aren't relevant to their activities on Wikipedia. It doesn't matter. Thornfield Hall (talk) 12:22, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Bigotry isn't accepted, though. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 12:23, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you everyone for your help. I have asked the user (DiscreetCharmOf Bourgeoisie) to remove the text, so we'll see how that goes. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 10:51, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Swedish newspaper source access
I would like to access some Swedish language newspapers to expand and improve an article. The Ängelholm UFO memorial has several reliable sources that are behind paywalls or partial paywalls where only the introduction is visible. I'm familiar with Wikipedia access to newspapers.com and the Wikipedia library, but these Swedish newspapers do not appear to be included. I attempted to sign up for a trial month using machine translation, but this appears to be available only to residents of Sweden. The specific source links are:
- https://tidningar.kb.se/1865536/1972-09-29/edition/170058/part/2/page/1/
- https://www.hd.se/2022-07-11/guidade-turer-vid-ufo-monumentet?utm_campaign=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=site-feed
- https://www.hd.se/2015-07-20/nu-rojs-det-kring-ufot
- https://tidningar.kb.se/1865536/1972-09-29/edition/170058/part/2/page/1/
Any guidance is appreciated, Rjjiii (talk) 05:23, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii, welcome to the Teahouse. Like you said, the hd is paywall, and the kb says "Copyright protected material, can only be read digitally at the Royal Library and at a few other libraries." You can try WP:RX or asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sweden. @Bonadea, perhaps you know something helpful? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I imagined something like wp:rx existed but had no idea where to look. Take care, Rjjiii (talk) 08:23, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
My edits have all been completely removed bc of a coi(declared)
my edits have all been removed. I think that a complex legal case should show all arguments. I have a declared interest in this case, however it was very one sided before, and so I eventually jumped into the article. No-one had an issue for nearly a month,until this individual who seemed to come from nowhere, and in that time it had been amended, looked at, sources tightened etc. Someone who was not previously involved has just taken it all away, and has now taken complete dominance of the narrative, unchallenged. No real exploration of all sides. I added genuinely verifiable sources including the judges findings and reasoning and the decision-making process of both the defence and judges. Just all removed by one person. I'm really upset by this. I spoke to the person involved in their talk page not the talk page of the case. That was a mistake, maybe they didn't see my explanation? I've since spoken on the article talk page but they are not interested now. They've completely removed all of it, I think that at least some must have merit, but they've chucked the lot, including amended bits by other editors. No-one else thought there was a blp issue with my contributions when they looked at it, and it was looked at by everyone previously involved. I think everyone's given up now, and so this person who disengaged from discussion will now get their way. This doesn't serve Wikipedia, or freedom of information. There was a coi, which was pointed out I then declared, and the person who pointed it out was happy to leave my contributions in place thereafter, because it's all verifiable and true. The other person who was so determined to remove this, has disengaged from the talk page, so I'm not sure what to do. No-one else found any blp prob, and had no issues with my contributions. It's a complex legal case and I think that more information about it the better, in particular the judges findings. I didn't delete anyone's contribution,( even those by a prolific sockpuppet), which bizarrely this person has left. Npov comes from both sides being given. I agree with freedom of information, I think everything should be shown.what should I do. I'm feeling harassed, but better for talking about it. Beautiful Rosie (talk) 08:30, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Beautiful Rosie I looked over the talk page discussion and it was handled appropriately and respectfully. The advice other editors gave you was helpful. Seek to establish consensus and make a {{request edit}} on the talk page if you have specific changes that are compliant with Wikipedia tone. We are seeking a neutral summary of verifiable sources, not neutrality for its own sake. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 09:08, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Just to add to this, the content was not removed solely because of a conflict of interest issue. Please see the talk page discussion for the reasons why your additions were reverted Talk:Murder of Don Banfield#Beautiful Rosie. Thank you. ErraticDrumlin (talk) 09:11, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Request for changes in the page
How can I request for extensive expansion or reorganization of Meena page? -- Karsan Chanda (talk) 10:08, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello @Karsan Chanda, and Welcome to the Teahouse. I would recommend requesting substantial changes to Meena on its talk page using an online edit request. The Edit request wizard will help you do this. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 10:23, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
how can my article be approve
please i need contact of a good writer Gkingmusik (talk) 10:54, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Gkingmusik. Your draft was rejected, which means that it is not a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article, no matter how well written. See WP:PROMO. Also your username is in violation of WP:ORGNAME. Shantavira|feed me 12:26, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- User blocked. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 12:34, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
IP Vandal help
Hi, can someone provide me the forum to report ip vandalism. multiple ip's (ig they belong to a single user) are vandalizing the pages by removing the content unexplained (blanking). see: Category:Assembly constituencies of Andhra Pradesh 456legend(talk) 12:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Vandalism reports go to WP:AIV, regardless wether its a registered user or an IP adress, after the editor in question has been sufficiently warned. That being said, the only IP adress in the page history of the linked category hasn't edited since 2014, so the issiue is long stale. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:08, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Victor Schmidt thank you for guiding me to the reporting page. I didn't mean the ip editor in the history of the category page but the pages in the category. (see the history of the pages in the category and not the page of the category. I hope you understood what I mean here) 456legend(talk) 13:29, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Copying between projects
Hi, can I create an article by copying all the information from another Wikipedia that has the page, then translating it to English ? I'm wondering if it's possible to copy/transfer the whole article to the English Wikipedia. Dancing Dollar (let's talk) 15:16, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Dancing Dollar: Welcome to the Teahouse! The answer is yes - see WP:Translation. However, the translated article still needs to meet the English Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:53, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Dancing Dollar:, indeed it is possible. Please make sure you observe the Wikimedia's wmf:Terms of use, which require translation attribution along with a link to the foreign Wikipedia article you translated from to be placed into the edit summary of the edit where you added the translated content. See WP:TFOLWP for how to word this. Mathglot (talk) 08:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Adil Qadri
I am writing to request a correction to the article on Adil Qadri. In my previous edit to the article, I mistakenly included some inaccurate information that I would like to correct. BizWriter2023 (talk) 15:29, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @BizWriter2023: Welcome to the Teahouse! Your edits to the article have been reverted. The article has been nominated for speedy deletion. GoingBatty (talk) 15:51, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
What is the American Declaration for the Rights of Indigenous People In The United States
oas.org Yeamaya9 (talk) 17:13, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Yeamaya9 seems like an indigenous rights organization. I have no idea whether it is notable, but if it is then feel free to make an article on it, or a draft if you are unsure Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 19:24, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- This seems like more of a question for WP:REFDESK. Justinwsk (talk) 01:27, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Yeamaya9 This is the teahouse, a place where basic questions are answered about Wikipedia. My recommendation is to consult your local search engine. Also, read Wikipedia:HOMEWORK Club On a Sub 20 (talk) 15:31, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Collaboration?
Hi, is anyone interested in collaborating with me to bring in standardization in the articles listed under this category: Category:Assembly constituencies of Andhra Pradesh WP:TEAMWORK 456legend(talk) 17:32, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- The Teahouse isn’t the best place for this. The Help desk or just asking users on their talk pages may be a better option. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:36, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- @456legend: You could also try asking on the talk page(s) of the category's WikiProject(s). Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Okay thank you for the input. 456legend(talk) 04:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Where to ask for considering restoring an article deleted for G5 based on a new draft.
Hello,
I am the subject of an article that, after several months of being accepted by a new page reviewer, has been deleted for G5.
I apologize for having created multiple accounts, and behaving as a sockpuppet. I didn't know that creating a new account to propose a draft for inclusion, via article for creation, would have been a problem. I have tried to create a good article that I believe would be a good addition to the encyclopedia, especially in terms of the legacy of the Strasberg Method , Sustainability in the Arts, and Climate Change Theatre.
I believe readers interested in topics, such as Film & Theatre , Climate Change, and Art & Culture would benefit from this article.
I have created another draft avoiding promotional tones to comply with NPOV.
The draft is supported by reliable sources including from Enciclopedia Italiana and I would like to ask if it is possible to share it with the community to consider if it is a good addition to the encyclopedia. Please let me know if that is ok. Thank you for your patience.
Giomoras (talk) 18:43, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- G5 is "Creations by banned or blocked users" As you wrote above, you had created multiple accounts and were blocked, which means one has to conclude that Giomoras is a new account. In order to have the G5 deletion restored, you first have to sucessfully appeal the block to your original account. You also mention that you have created another draft. Has that been submitted? The title? Regardless, until you remedy the block, nothing can happen. David notMD (talk) 19:39, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Thanks for your reply. The draft has not been submitted. I wanted to ask for permission first. I could share it if it is ok so other editors can take a look but if I need to remedy the block fist I would try to do that. Shall I ask to be unblocked. Where do I do that ? Giomoras (talk) 19:56, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Do not share the draft. It's quality and claim for notability are moot until you resolve the original account that was blocked. See Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks. David notMD (talk) 20:06, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ok. I made a request here . Is it ok ? Giomoras (talk) 20:27, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'd advise you to stop posting here and log out your new account, you are evading your block simply by asking questions here. MrOllie (talk) 20:32, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ok. I made a request here . Is it ok ? Giomoras (talk) 20:27, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Do not share the draft. It's quality and claim for notability are moot until you resolve the original account that was blocked. See Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks. David notMD (talk) 20:06, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Thanks for your reply. The draft has not been submitted. I wanted to ask for permission first. I could share it if it is ok so other editors can take a look but if I need to remedy the block fist I would try to do that. Shall I ask to be unblocked. Where do I do that ? Giomoras (talk) 19:56, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
which template to use?
I created this page: Anton Schaaf and I'm trying to get a template, which template should I use? Vamsi20 (talk) 19:17, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- I mean like an infobox Vamsi20 (talk) 19:17, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Template:Infobox officeholder seems appropriate. As a general tip: I like looking at comparable pages to get a better idea of how to use an infobox best. So in this case I'd look for a politician who was both an MdB and an MdL at some point in his career. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 20:47, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- I just saw he only ran for MdL, he didn't get elected. So you can just take any MdB's page as model. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 20:50, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Template:Infobox officeholder seems appropriate. As a general tip: I like looking at comparable pages to get a better idea of how to use an infobox best. So in this case I'd look for a politician who was both an MdB and an MdL at some point in his career. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 20:47, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Tropical Bopha (2006) edit
How to edit teahouse hosts
link → Tropical Bopha (2006)
- add 10 more ref
- add 10,000 bytes in history
- click a Finished drafting? Submit for review!
- done
112.208.249.82 (talk) 04:01, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse! Instead of asking for assistance here, you might be more successful by asking on the talk page(s) of the draft's WikiProject(s). Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty put Cite journal here https://severeweather.wmo.int/tcc/39th_session/document/creport/Review_of_the_2006_Typhoon_Season(China).doc to make a citation in Visual 112.206.201.247 (talk) 07:02, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Your draft is very, very poor English. It will not be accepted. Compare how information about this storm is conveyed in complete sentences as a section at 2006 Pacific typhoon season versus everything you have written. Also, please consider if an effort to create an article about a storm that occurred 17 years ago is a good use of your time. David notMD (talk) 11:33, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- I added the link you provided in a new External links section using {{cite conference}}. Feel free to move it to the appropriate place within the draft. I tried correcting your English, but there are many sentences I don't understand. GoingBatty (talk) 13:04, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty add a category 112.206.201.247 (talk) 14:16, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- There are already five categories listed on the draft. I added the {{Draft categories}} template to make them more visible. GoingBatty (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty add 15 ref and 12,000 worlds ok 119.94.39.236 (talk) 01:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- I won't be adding references or worlds (or words). GoingBatty (talk) 13:29, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty ok to add worlds 122.52.26.175 (talk) 01:58, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- I won't be adding references or worlds (or words). GoingBatty (talk) 13:29, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty add 15 ref and 12,000 worlds ok 119.94.39.236 (talk) 01:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- There are already five categories listed on the draft. I added the {{Draft categories}} template to make them more visible. GoingBatty (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty add a category 112.206.201.247 (talk) 14:16, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty put Cite journal here https://severeweather.wmo.int/tcc/39th_session/document/creport/Review_of_the_2006_Typhoon_Season(China).doc to make a citation in Visual 112.206.201.247 (talk) 07:02, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- The draft has not been resubmitted for review, so it's not currently being considered. I agree that the level of English prose is poor, and the draft won't be accepted unless a volunteer editor does some extensive copyediting and rewording. Some sections like "Aug 7's in the 2006 before 100 km/h (60 mph) Bopha's 2006 Pacific typhoon season and removed on Aug 8. but Luzon. by Bopha and Aug 10 Floods more homes are removed. in Aug and 3 typhoon's as images the storm end Aug 10." are pretty much indecipherable. You might have more success contributing articles in your native language, which, I'm guessing, is not English. Hope this helps. David10244 (talk) 08:36, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- I histmerged the two drafts and left a link on the talk page to the last best of the other draft. That may help with some of the indecipherable English. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:32, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Uploading Image of a living person.
Hi
I found an article about a living person that can use his image for better understanding and originality. The person has provided his image for public display on his own private website. Can i source his image from there and use it on wikipedia article?
Do i need a written permission from him for doing so? Jatin1219 (talk) 05:55, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Jatin1219. You must assume that any photo you find on the internet is restricted by copyright laws, unless you find solid evidence to the contrary. Any photo of a living person must be either freely licensed or in the public domain to be used on Wikipediah. Anything you find on Wikimedia Commons is OK to use. Photos taken by employees of the U.S. federal government while performing their job duties are in the public domain. A small percentage of photos on Flickr are freely licenced. The vast majority of other photos of living people are copyright restricted and cannot be used on Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 06:21, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Also be aware that, in most cases, the photographer holds the copyright, not the subject of a portrait, unless there is a written legal agreement reassigning the copyright for money. People are rarely willing to give away for free rights that they paid money for. Cullen328 (talk) 06:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for reply
- I found pictures available on wikimedia either sourced from random website (example this pic is sourced from this random website) or even from youtube thumbnails(example ). The secound example says that picture available on youtube thumbnails are in common licence. Is it true?
- If not then how did they survives without legal agreement? Jatin1219 (talk) 07:30, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Jatin1219 On your first example, scroll down and read under "Licensing". The uploader has proved, via mailcontact, that the image is ok. There is a system for this in place, because sometimes copyrightholders think that "donating" pics is a good idea. In the YT case, check where it says "License" above the comments[5]. Uploaders on YT can publish their stuff under such licenses if they want. Not that Commons (or WP) is error free [6][7], but these examples seem fine. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:30, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- So I can not upload the picture of a living person on wikipedia or wikimedia without contacting him personally even if his page is on wikipedia and pictures are available online? Jatin1219 (talk) 09:16, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- As was mentioned above. The subject of the photo is not the important person. The owner of the copyright of the photo is the most important person. - X201 (talk) 09:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- So I can not upload the picture of a living person on wikipedia or wikimedia without contacting him personally even if his page is on wikipedia and pictures are available online? Jatin1219 (talk) 09:16, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Jatin1219 On your first example, scroll down and read under "Licensing". The uploader has proved, via mailcontact, that the image is ok. There is a system for this in place, because sometimes copyrightholders think that "donating" pics is a good idea. In the YT case, check where it says "License" above the comments[5]. Uploaders on YT can publish their stuff under such licenses if they want. Not that Commons (or WP) is error free [6][7], but these examples seem fine. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:30, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Also be aware that, in most cases, the photographer holds the copyright, not the subject of a portrait, unless there is a written legal agreement reassigning the copyright for money. People are rarely willing to give away for free rights that they paid money for. Cullen328 (talk) 06:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Your options: A) contact the photographer and convince that person to create a Wikipedia account and donate the photograph to Commons for free use everywhere; B) contact the subject of the Wikipedia article and convince that person to take a selfie, create an account and submit the photo; C) stalk the celebrity to take your own photo. Best of luck. David notMD (talk) 11:28, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will opt for option 3 :) Jatin1219 (talk) 11:32, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Conventions are good for stalking. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:34, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- What is the procedure of secound option. If i can convince the subject to click a selfie then what steps he need to do to upload his picture on commons? Jatin1219 (talk) 12:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Jatin1219, point them to [8]. I have on occasion successfully asked a subject or WP:COI-person who turned up at WP themselves to provide a pic, but never initiated an off-WP contact myself. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:08, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
When my new article be available on Google search
I created an article two days ago and it still is not availabe on any google search. I want my new article on google search. Did i do something wrong with my article because it is not showing on google? 59.98.188.235 (talk) 06:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Which article are you asking about? We may be able to answer the question then. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 06:22, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Please read Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing. New articles are not indexed for search engines unless the page has either been reviewed by the Wikipedia:New pages patrol, or 90 days has gone by, whichever comes first. This is a basic quality control measure to prevent complete junk on Wikipedia showing up in Google or Bing searches. Cullen328 (talk) 06:34, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- How did you "create" the article? Was it a draft that you submitted for review, and it was accepted, or did you create an article directly in mainspace? (I forget if IP users can even do this. The IP address has no other contributions.) David10244 (talk) 08:28, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Definition of Alumnus?
Hello and good morning. Q: What is the accepted definition of "alumnus" here on Wikipedia? Merriam-Webster gives us: 1) a person who has attended or has graduated from a particular school, college, or university; 2) a person who is a former member, employee, contributor, or inmate. Do these correspond with WP:MOS and/or house style? (I'm specifically interested in knowing whether a person's attendance at a particular educational institution is sufficient to state that they are an alumnus/alumna.) Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 07:10, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, the definition seems to be perfectly clear, but please also see WP:ALUMNI. Shantavira|feed me 08:08, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. This is what I was looking for: "... regardless of how much time they have spent on a school roll, from one day to several years, and whether or not they graduated." All clear. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Cl3phact0, WP:ALUMNI is part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article advice, which isn't obviously about tertiary education. And the notion that somebody who's spent just a single day "on a school roll" thereby becomes an alumnus of the place is (for me) risible; it sounds like the kind of nonsense that's trotted out by a politician caught for having faked their CV. Wiktionary (of course not the only authority, if an authority at all) says of alumnus: "A male pupil or student. / A male graduate. / A student of any gender. / A graduate of any gender." This doesn't even cover people who went to a school for years but for one reason or another didn't graduate from it. -- Hoary (talk) 13:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, Hoary. In truth, I would agree with you that mere matriculation and a casual stroll across the quad does not an alumnus make. In fact, I was a bit surprised by the definition (both Webster's and the above mentioned WP source). I had it in my mind that the term referred to a graduate of an institution. That said, I did doubt myself enough to look it up in the dictionary – and who am I to contradict either of the above sources, after all? This is the article and section that prompted my question, and in particular, whether (based on the parenthetical clause) the Iain Duncan Smith article should be included in Category:Università per Stranieri di Perugia alumni (which I created and populated in relation to Marva Griffin article). How would you define alumnus in this case? Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Cl3phact0, later this week I may have an opportunity to look in the OED for graduate. If I can, I'll let you know what it says. In the meantime, the iWeb corpus offers for example this from a University of Birmingham page: "Be an alumnus of the University, which includes any student who has undertaken an undergraduate degree or exchange programme (for no less than one semester) at Birmingham. It also includes current final-year undergraduate students." (That's from this page, which no longer exists; though I'd guess that it lives on c/o the Wayback Machine.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:39, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, Hoary. In truth, I would agree with you that mere matriculation and a casual stroll across the quad does not an alumnus make. In fact, I was a bit surprised by the definition (both Webster's and the above mentioned WP source). I had it in my mind that the term referred to a graduate of an institution. That said, I did doubt myself enough to look it up in the dictionary – and who am I to contradict either of the above sources, after all? This is the article and section that prompted my question, and in particular, whether (based on the parenthetical clause) the Iain Duncan Smith article should be included in Category:Università per Stranieri di Perugia alumni (which I created and populated in relation to Marva Griffin article). How would you define alumnus in this case? Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think it's worth mentioning that the definition at the top of this section is a very American one. Here in Australia we only ever speak of someone being an alumnus of a university, or what Americans call a college. ("College" has a very differnt meaning here.) It certainly doesn't inculde schools. The Birmingham example above seems a close match to Australian usage. While Wikipeida can choose to apply whatever defeinition it likes, editors need to be aware that it only makes sense in one part of the world. HiLo48 (talk) 02:16, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- And, Cl3phact0, I'll concede that alumn? can be vacuous. This page tells us: "The Scouting Alumni Association defines alumni as everyone positively and personally impacted by the Boy Scouts of America. That includes former Scouts, family members of Scouts past and present, community leaders and millions of Americans who benefit from Scouting in their communities every day." Yet context is important. The organization hosting the web page I've just quoted wants to get donations, and of course the larger the target group, the more donations they're likely to get. (A matter that's pointed out here -- another page that discusses a definition.) However, neither Wikipedia nor most of its readers would profit from an extraordinarily wide definition of alumnus. More mainstream: "An GRCC/JC alumnus is defined as an individual who has earned 30 credits or more from GRCC/JC" (source); "Alumnus is defined as a person who has obtained a degree, certificate or diploma from the College, or its immediate predecessor, Mitchell College" (source, an earlier version of this). -- Hoary (talk) 08:18, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Cl3phact0 Inmate? I'm a bit surprised by that use, but I accept it. David10244 (talk) 08:23, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @David10244: "Inmate" surprised me too (but I do like "Big-house alumnus" as far as turn of phrase goes).-- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
citing wikipedia when writing my eBook
is it legal and legitimate to cite wikipedia when writing my eBook 103.245.219.133 (talk) 07:35, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- hi ip user! it's best not to cite Wikipedia directly for your work. it's instead best to cite (and before citing, check) the source/s attached to ensure that what the article is saying is accurate to what the source is saying. it's probably not acceptable to use Wikipedia directly in most cases when you're working with a publisher. however, if you're citing something about Wikipedia itself, such as articles in the Signpost. there's much more information in Citing Wikipedia regarding this. happy writing! 💜 melecie talk - 08:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Also bear in mind that Wikipedia is in a constant state of flux. What it says one day it might not say the next, so any citation should include a date and time stamp. Shantavira|feed me 08:11, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- You can link/cite a specific version of a WP-article, like so:[9] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:45, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Full guidance is at WP:REUSE. You would be allowed to include verbatim bits of Wikipedia content provided you acknowledge their source (which you can do for example with a permalink to the version you used) and license your eBook as CC-BY-SA. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Michael D. Turnbull I would clarify though, the book itself can have ANY license or even no license. Only the Wikipedia sources text must be attributed. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:22, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: Unless I'm misunderstanding, the "SA" in CC-BY-SA means that the derivative work must be released under the same license as the original work, so wouldn't the book not being licensed under CC-BY-SA be a copyright violation? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:28, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Blaze Wolf If I am wrong, I'll gracefully bow out, but I understood this to explicitly refer only to the actual copied material from Wikipedia, not say the entire book. So for example, if I write a book, and include one paragraph from Wikipedia, I must correctly attribute Wikipedia, and if I slightly rephrase, even that rephrasing must also be Share-Alike per your point, but entire book? I don't believe so. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 20:04, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Shushugah, @Blaze Wolf On delving deeper into this, I think that Shushugah is correct based on section 4 of the legal code. This distinguishes "the Work", i.e. the Wikipedia bit, from "the Collection" which is the whole of the eBook incorporating the Work and says
this does not require the Collection apart from the Work itself to be made subject to the terms of this License
Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:54, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Shushugah, @Blaze Wolf On delving deeper into this, I think that Shushugah is correct based on section 4 of the legal code. This distinguishes "the Work", i.e. the Wikipedia bit, from "the Collection" which is the whole of the eBook incorporating the Work and says
- @Blaze Wolf If I am wrong, I'll gracefully bow out, but I understood this to explicitly refer only to the actual copied material from Wikipedia, not say the entire book. So for example, if I write a book, and include one paragraph from Wikipedia, I must correctly attribute Wikipedia, and if I slightly rephrase, even that rephrasing must also be Share-Alike per your point, but entire book? I don't believe so. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 20:04, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: Unless I'm misunderstanding, the "SA" in CC-BY-SA means that the derivative work must be released under the same license as the original work, so wouldn't the book not being licensed under CC-BY-SA be a copyright violation? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:28, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Michael D. Turnbull I would clarify though, the book itself can have ANY license or even no license. Only the Wikipedia sources text must be attributed. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:22, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Rules regarding reliable sources about Kickstarter projects
When the subject of an article has a Kickstarter campaign can the project's Kickstarter page be used as a source of information about the project or is an independent source required? If it can be used does it matter whether the campaign is ongoing or completed and whether it is successful or not? I would appreciate a general answer, but in case it matters: I am considering adding the title and the campaign goal of a film project and the fact that the campaign was successful. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 11:01, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Random person no 362478479 I would treat the Kickstarter page like we treat the subject's own webpage, since it is certainly not WP:INDEPENDENT. Hence the information can be used as in WP:ABOUTSELF but will not contribute to the notability. If you are creating a new article/draft we need about three sources meeting these golden rules. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:18, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Michael D. Turnbull Thank you. That matches with what I expected. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 14:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Michael D. Turnbull Turns out that kickstarter.com is on a spam blacklist. Oh well, the information I wanted to add is not that important and I expect that sooner or later there will be other sources to document it. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 15:55, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Draft:Saratu Altine Umar
Kindly assist in reviewing this draft article Draft:Saratu Altine Umar Toniventure (talk) 11:32, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Toniventure Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You have submitted the draft for review. As noted on the draft, "This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 3,499 pending submissions waiting for review." Please be patient. 331dot (talk) 11:36, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response, can you please go through it an check if it confirms with all the wikipedia rules? Toniventure (talk) 11:39, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Toniventure The article definitely needs more references, especially in the Career section. I would also recommend some (not insignificant) restructuring and rewriting. Do you mind if I do some editing (I don't want to mess with someone's draft without their explicit permission). Random person no 362478479 (talk) 11:53, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Kindly help in making the changes, permission granted. Thank you Toniventure (talk) 11:59, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Toniventure The article definitely needs more references, especially in the Career section. I would also recommend some (not insignificant) restructuring and rewriting. Do you mind if I do some editing (I don't want to mess with someone's draft without their explicit permission). Random person no 362478479 (talk) 11:53, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Courtesy link: Draft:Saratu_Altine_Umar Given that the draft has been declined twice it would have been better to come here before submitting it again. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 11:42, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Although five references have been added since this was last declined, there are still chunks of text not supported by any references. There may be time to fix this before the next review..David notMD (talk) 11:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Toniventure That's what the reviewer will do. 331dot (talk) 11:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- It has been reviewed again and unfortunately, it's been declined. It's my 1st article on Wikipedia and i'll appreciate if you can help go through it again so we get an approval Toniventure (talk) 13:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Who is "we"? Are you associated with this person? 331dot (talk) 13:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- I meant the team of Teahouse helping me with the article. I am not associated with the person Toniventure (talk) 13:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Who is "we"? Are you associated with this person? 331dot (talk) 13:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- It was the points i took here i used to make changes and amendments Toniventure (talk) 11:57, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Although five references have been added since this was last declined, there are still chunks of text not supported by any references. There may be time to fix this before the next review..David notMD (talk) 11:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response, can you please go through it an check if it confirms with all the wikipedia rules? Toniventure (talk) 11:39, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Page being removed twice by same user
Hi there, I've been trying to create a new Wikipedia page. Used references but it has been removed for the second time. I'm not understanding what I'm not doing correctly. And how can I see which user is removing the page and how can I talk to that user directly? This is the page Taryll Jackson JXNLegacy (talk) 12:00, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello. It looks like you have figured out how to contact the user directly. 331dot (talk) 12:21, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I think so. I saw two users so contacted them both. JXNLegacy (talk) 12:40, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- JXNLegacy, Taryll Jackson started as a redirect to 3T and has been restored to a redirect by both Taking Out The Trash and Onel5969. A glance at the former when it was an article doesn't suggest to me that it shows that Taryll Jackson is notable (as understood here). If you'd like to persuade editors that Jackson merits an article, the best place to do this would I think be Talk:3T. Incidentally, your username rather makes me think of "Jackson legacy"; do you perhaps have some relation to Taryll Jackson? -- Hoary (talk) 12:26, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Aside from the username, there are some pretty clear indications this person is related to Taryll in some way. Onel5969 TT me 12:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clear answer. I am a supporter of the family but I did not think I was being "promotional". I used references and sources and thought the information was neutral. So other users should create the page? But those are probably also Jackson family supporters right? JXNLegacy (talk) 12:37, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Clarify "supporter." Is "JXNLegacy" an organization, or just your personal choice for a User name. onel5969 suggested that because of a suspected personal or paid connection to the Jackson family, you should declare any such connection on your User page and then use WP:YFA to create a draft. Of the three brothers that make up 3T, Taj merits an article, you have been attempting to do same for Taryll, and I suppose that leaves TJ neglected. Given Taryll having a solo career, a split may be warranted. However, as noted above, Hoary was able to look at the article version of Taryll Jackson and doubted it was Wikipedia-notable. One alternative for you to consider is improving the Taryll Jackson's solo career in 3T. Right now, it is a list of song releases. None of that establishes notability. What is needed is references to what people have written ABOUT Taryll. Improve the section first, and then make a case for a split. David notMD (talk) 12:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Personal choice of a user name, maybe not the right one in retrospect? Thank you for the advise David notMD Kind regards, JXNLegacy (talk) 13:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- If no paid or personal connection (see WP:COI for what that is about), then declare such on your own Talk page. Still means - per Hoary - that there may not be enough published about Taryll to justify an article. Do look at Taj Jackson as an example of what works. David notMD (talk) 13:08, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Personal choice of a user name, maybe not the right one in retrospect? Thank you for the advise David notMD Kind regards, JXNLegacy (talk) 13:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Clarify "supporter." Is "JXNLegacy" an organization, or just your personal choice for a User name. onel5969 suggested that because of a suspected personal or paid connection to the Jackson family, you should declare any such connection on your User page and then use WP:YFA to create a draft. Of the three brothers that make up 3T, Taj merits an article, you have been attempting to do same for Taryll, and I suppose that leaves TJ neglected. Given Taryll having a solo career, a split may be warranted. However, as noted above, Hoary was able to look at the article version of Taryll Jackson and doubted it was Wikipedia-notable. One alternative for you to consider is improving the Taryll Jackson's solo career in 3T. Right now, it is a list of song releases. None of that establishes notability. What is needed is references to what people have written ABOUT Taryll. Improve the section first, and then make a case for a split. David notMD (talk) 12:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
How to make a created template appear
I just created this - Template:Miss Polonia winners. What code do I use to make it appear in an article?
Thanks KatoKungLee (talk) 18:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- to add a template, just put {{}} around the name.
- So {{Miss Polonia winners}}, returns
PalauanReich (talk) 18:16, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- PalauanReich - Thanks, that worked.KatoKungLee (talk) 18:21, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @KatoKungLee note I changed the |name = parameter to match the casing of the Template itself. Happy editing! In the future if you have technical/template related questions, WP:Village Pump (Technical) is also a suitable place to ask. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 21:57, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
fair use image
There is an image on the Arabic Wikipedia that is fair use, do I have to reupload it on the English wikipedia or can I use it across wiki. Here is the image PalauanReich (talk) 18:15, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi again @PalauanReich. Only images on Commons are shared across the various versions of Wikipedia. You'll need to upload the image locally to English Wikipedia, with an appropriate non-free rationale per our own non-free content guideline (which may or may not be different from Arabic Wikipedia's rules). 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:45, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Good to know, thanks PalauanReich (talk) 19:13, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Looking at the image, it's being used on the New Qena article on arWiki, and as we also have the same article here you could theoretically upload it here as well for that use, however I'd suggest expanding the article here first as it's basically a one or two sentence stub which is completely useless to an encyclopedia. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:08, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Grocery store - notable for Wikipedia
Hello, I'm wondering if a family-owned grocery store that has 3 locations is notable enough to have a Wikipedia page. And how would I know if it's notable? Healthylivinggrocery (talk) 19:42, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Healthylivinggrocery: Hello Grocery! If the grocery store you are referring to is your username i suggest you change it as it is currently a violation of the username policy. As for your question, it most likely is not notable enough for an article given that it only has 3 locations so it's most likely just a local store. However if it passes WP:GNG then it is indeed notable. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Is the store as famous as Wall Drug? David notMD (talk) 21:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @David notMD The user has been blocked and cannot respond. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:53, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- They have been renamed and are now unblocked. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @David notMD The user has been blocked and cannot respond. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:53, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Is the store as famous as Wall Drug? David notMD (talk) 21:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @EliLG Can you find published sources where others have written about the store, not including interviews with the principals or employees? If so, then you might have enough on which to base an article. David10244 (talk) 08:18, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @EliLG: Welcome to the Teahouse! You can find Wikipedia's appropriate notability guidelines at WP:NCORP. GoingBatty (talk) 13:54, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Distinguished Flying Cross US WWII
Hello,
My father, William Lewis Tarver, was a recipient of the DFC from both the US and Australia during World War II. I'm sure he would be very grateful if his name was included in the list on the related Wikipedia page. He earned the award for his heroism during the Battle of the Coral Sea. Is it possible to have his name included on the list? If so, what documentation might I provide to confirm his receipt of the reward? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distinguished_Flying_Cross_(United_States) Thank you, Billie (Tarver) Nordmeyer (VisualEditor please.) B1234gn (talk) 00:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Good day, B1234gn.
- Firstly, if you want to proceed with making or supporting the creation of an article for your father, you want to declare that you have a conflict of interest.
- Secondly, are there independent sources that mention him. All the recipients listed have their own articles as far as I can tell. The guidelines for notability can be found here. ✶Mitch199811✶ 02:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, B1234gn. In order for your father to be listed in Distinguished Flying Cross (United States)#Notable recipients of the DFC, it is necessary that he be the subject of a Wikipedia biography. That is the significance of the word "notable". It seems that the U.S. government awarded over 20,000 DFCs in World War II, and so we cannot list every recipient, but only the notable ones. Cullen328 (talk) 02:17, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @B1234gn Side note on "Visual Editor please". If you are asking other editors to use the Visual Editor when they reply to you, please note that there will be no difference in the actual reply that you see, whether the person replying used one editor or another. You won't even be able to tell. On the other hand, if you are asking that any reply that involves editing instructions should be geared toward the Visual Editor, then your request might make sense. (Personally, I would reword it slightly to say something like "I use the Visual Editor".) I hope this info makes sense; I was a bit wordy. David10244 (talk) 08:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
COI editor is directly editing the page, am I addressing this properly?
Hello! I've been having trouble with a declared COI editor on Behgjet Pacolli's page. I've asked them to submit edit requests via Talk instead of how they've previously edited the page directly. I've posted on WP:COIN twice (here and here) with no response. Is there another avenue I can take this through? Thanks! 30Four (talk) 01:21, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, 30Four. I have pageblocked that editor from the Behgjet Pacolli biography, although they are still free to make formal edit requests on the article talk page. Cullen328 (talk) 01:58, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Crime and Privacy
I recently reverted an edit where someone was removing a brief mention of two teachers who had been arrested from a school districts article for privacy concerns. The arrests were both cited with a credible source. Is it valid for the editor to have removed this information? TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 02:17, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, TheManInTheBlackHat. I guess this is related to Somerville Independent School District. In my view, it is not appropriate to mention arrests of teachers that took place five to six years ago, when no evidence of convictions has been provided. According to WP:BLPCRIME, which is part of a mandatory and non-negotiable policy,
A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations and arrests do not amount to a conviction. For individuals who are not public figures; that is, individuals not covered by Public figures, editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed, or is accused of having committed, a crime, unless a conviction has been secured.
I recommend that you follow that policy carefully. Cullen328 (talk) 02:25, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Save this article. Most Famous OTT. Shree Venkatesh Films
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi Wikipedians, Please support this article (Shree Venkatesh Films). One mad editor marked it for deletion. I think he is not aware with Wikipedia guidelines. 2409:40E3:101A:E46B:ADA8:A18C:BB9:5318 (talk) 05:55, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- hi ip user! firstly, please do not canvass others to vote a particular side in an AfD. that aside, while I do not participate in AfD and will not vote either way, I'd like to note that saying that Shree Venkatesh Films is famous is not a reason to not delete an article, it's whether there are reliable sources like news articles that are independent from the subject itself that matters. perhaps there are valid sources (I haven't looked at the sources in the article or what sources are available), but the heavy amount of primary sources used is what drags it down. happy editing! 💜 melecie talk - 06:23, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Additionally, ip user, on "mad editor": Do try to avoid ascribing mental abnormality to your fellow editors. It can land you in serious trouble. -- Hoary (talk) 08:20, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
how do i publish or submit an article i have written as a draft?
I am new to wikipedia an just recently did a draft for a n artist article. I belive it was saved a published. However it is unclear to me how to proceed with getting this article submitted or actually published on wikipedia and seen online.
Below is the link to the draft i created
Please Help! Kennyod (talk) 10:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Before you submit it, you need to clean it up. Remove the bold song titles. Song titles in Wikipedia are written in plain text and with quotes like this: "Song Title". Album titles are written in italics like this Album Title. Also (the main issue) you're going to need more reliable sources than the few you have in the article at the moment. - X201 (talk) 11:18, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. This is helpful Kennyod (talk) 13:52, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Also. read WP:BIO. Wikipedia has notability standards and the subject of the article will need to meet them. - X201 (talk) 11:19, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Kennyod: After reviewing Help:Your first article, ensuring that the artist meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines, and you have addressed the other suggestions here, you can add {{subst:submit}} to the top of your draft to submit it for review. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:50, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! Kennyod (talk) 13:53, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Kennyod, where did you get the photo of this person which you uploaded? If you know them personally, you should probably review WP:COI. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Kennyod, my bad, I see you already have a statement on your user page. Thanks for doing that. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:06, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
professor dr. Sievers
Hello, i am the secretary of professor dr. Sievers and he asked me to create a wikipedia entry for him in english. but unfortunately i don't know how to do that. I have entered a contribution but it is not recognized. can you help me with this? Melissa özuzun (talk) 11:57, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- this is the link to the page I created: Draft:Burkhard_Sievers Melissa özuzun (talk) 12:05, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Melissa özuzun, you're asking about Draft:Burkhard Sievers. Well, start by reading and digesting Help:Your first article. Note in particular: "If you or someone or something you are personally involved with is worthy of inclusion in the encyclopedia, let someone else add that article." So the best thing to do is to tell Sievers that no, you're not going to create a Wikipedia article about him. -- Hoary (talk) 12:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Good day, Melissa. You must declare a conflict of interest as you personally know the subject and are being asked to make the article. He also needs to pass notability requirements. The article itself looks quite messy and you might want to switch to the visual editor, especially for the citations and headings. You may want to look at WP:REF. ✶Mitch199811✶ 12:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)You have been given hints as to why the draft hasn't been accepted on your talk-page. Also, you must declare your conflict of interest. The draft lacks reliable sources at the moment, amongst other problems like the external links you used. Lectonar (talk) 12:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Melissa özuzun. You might suggest that Professor Dr. Sievers read Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. If an article about him is published on Wikipedia that article won't belong to him, and anyone who can find reliable references on him can add to it, even if those changes contain information the professor might prefer not to be in the article. Wikipedia is not social media, so obtaining an "entry" is much more difficult than just telling an employee to add something to the online encyclopedia. Karenthewriter (talk) 13:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)You have been given hints as to why the draft hasn't been accepted on your talk-page. Also, you must declare your conflict of interest. The draft lacks reliable sources at the moment, amongst other problems like the external links you used. Lectonar (talk) 12:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Good day, Melissa. You must declare a conflict of interest as you personally know the subject and are being asked to make the article. He also needs to pass notability requirements. The article itself looks quite messy and you might want to switch to the visual editor, especially for the citations and headings. You may want to look at WP:REF. ✶Mitch199811✶ 12:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Melissa özuzun, if I were in your position, I would explain politely to the professor that you have tried, but learned that Wikipedia strongly discourages people from creating articles about their employers and anyone else that they know personally. Maproom (talk) 13:38, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Can i add a photo?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meerkat?action=edit
This site is semi protected but I'd like to add a photo of a Meercat at Auckland zoo, the Meercat is in the photo is in lookout mode. Would it be possible to add the photo? I'm happy to show the photo but I can't seem to add it here in the tea house. Bijou1995 (talk) 13:29, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Bijou1995: If this is a photo you personally took, you can use the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard (after ensuring you understand copyright and the image use policy). Then you can discuss the photo at Talk:Meerkat with other interested editors to discuss where (or if) it would be an appropriate addition to the article. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:37, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- In addition to what Batty said, make sure the photo provides something unique to the article. It looks like there are already one or two images of meerkats in lookout mode on the article. If you add another, it will likely be removed. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Bijou. In addition to what GoingBatty said, Commons already has over 200 pictures of meerkats in zoos. Is there value in uploading another? See c:Category:Suricata_suricatta_in_zoos? ColinFine (talk) 13:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Disambiguation
[(Nepal)]
Is the disambiguation required in this wiki page article? The information is from another country's point of view, culture and literature. Also, the same information (from the disambiguation page) can be found in more detail below in the article. Yashodaasdeo (talk) 15:39, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like you mean Panchayat (Nepal) but that's not what you linked. Am I correct? - UtherSRG (talk) 15:52, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- The OP seems to be referring to Panchayat which is, rightly, a disambiguation page. Suggestions for improvement to any article (or disambiguation page) are best placed on that article's talk page. Shantavira|feed me 16:44, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Plants
I'm a 7th grade student studying the plants of the pacific northwest. Do you have any suggestions for me? Wolfhunter11 (talk) 18:04, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Wolfhunter11, welcome to the Teahouse. I'd recommend starting at Flora of the United States#Divisions and going through the list to see which of them include regions of the Pacific Northwest. The latter article also has a section on ecoregions, Pacific Northwest#Ecoregions, with many links you could explore. If you have specific questions that you can't find answers to, feel free to ask at the science reference desk. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Britannica Encyclopaedia
I wonder if Britannica can be used as a source on here. I am aware of most of Wikipedia's sourcing policies, nevertheless, I'm curious. Riverbend21 (talk) 18:05, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Riverbend21. Per WP:BRITANNICA, it's neither forbidden nor recommended. You can follow that link to read the reasoning. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello IP user, additionally, WP:tertiary sources (like Wikipedia) are generally discouraged in favor of secondary sourcing, because a tertiary source like Britannica does not specify where it got its information, and while most content there is accurate, if it exists in Britannica, there is usually better sourcing elsewhere. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, well hello to you too, Shushugah! 199.208.172.35 (talk) 19:44, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello IP user, additionally, WP:tertiary sources (like Wikipedia) are generally discouraged in favor of secondary sourcing, because a tertiary source like Britannica does not specify where it got its information, and while most content there is accurate, if it exists in Britannica, there is usually better sourcing elsewhere. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Procedure with tagging a recently blocked account as part of long term abuse?
Hey Wikipedians; recently, while scrolling through the revision history of Hurricane Ian, I found reverted edits performed by the now-indefinitely blocked User:Josh Poore (contribs). Upon further inspection, I also found a case of long-term abuse involving CalebHughes involving many of the same kinds of edits, as the LTA case's description of Hughes' normal edits and the user's edit history highly mirror each other. When proceeding to open up an SPI, I received a few warnings on duplicated pages, and I didn't want to proceed further, electing to seek assistance here instead. Could y'all help me with what the procedure to tag this account as one of the long-term abuser's sockpuppets? InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:14, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @InvadingInvader: Hello Invader! In this case, the best thing to do would be to jsut leave it alone and if TPA, EMD, etc. needs to be done then let an admin know about it (preferably in a way that won't induce the streisand effect per WP:DENY). Since it's an LTA tagging the sock wouldn't be a good idea as it would just encourage them to continue as most of the time this is essentially a game to them. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:34, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Got it. Thanks! InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:27, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
On the fence for CSD/PROD/AfD
Hi, Can someone take a look at SupplyHouse.com please? As the title says I'm unsure where to send this article. It looks to struggle with the independent coverage required to pass wp:org but may also be a potential A7 target as I can't see a claim to notability.
I would appreciate the opinion of another editor. Feel free to action your opinion.
Thanks Carver1889 (talk) 19:08, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Carver1889: I would say A7 is correct since it says "This applies to any article...that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant". They just seem to be your average HVAC retailer. If an admin thinks A7 is not appropriate then PROD might be your next best bet, and if someone removes that then if you still believe it's not notable take it to AFD. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:31, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Carver1889, WP:A7 doesn't ask for a claim to notability, it just requires a claim to significance or importance. If that article makes that, it's not eligible. I'd say that the material at SupplyHouse.com#Leadership constitutes a (weak) claim to significance. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:35, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
merging languages
hi! i just made a new wikipedia page, which was originally in German, but when you try and switch languages German isn't there. How do I connect them? They have the same title en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glas_(Album) de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glas_(Album) thanks! Testarossa1066 (talk) 19:25, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Testarossa1066 I fixed it by directly updating it on Wikidata directly Glas (Q116961930). ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:38, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Testarossa1066: I just submitted a request to move Glas (Album) to Glas (album). After the move is completed, then the Wikidata item can be updated. GoingBatty (talk) 19:39, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Testarossa1066: Thanks to DrVogel, this is now Done. GoingBatty (talk) 21:05, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I have been working on Draft:Matthew Simpson Davage and I came across an issue with the "infobox officeholder" template. Is there a way to add more office titles, beyond the three offered in the template? The subject was president of five universities. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 22:20, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ah never mind! I just saw Template:Infobox officeholder, which I believe answers my question. Sorry! PigeonChickenFish (talk) 22:22, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Alan Turing site - I'd like to make an addition please
I'd like to make an addition to the Turing page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing - at the end of the "Awards, honours, and tributes" section:
Turing was the subject of an opera by composer Justine F. Chen and librettist David Simpatico, which had its world premiere in Chicago, Illinois on March 23, 2023. The opera was commissioned by American Lyric Theater and performed by Chicago Opera Theater[footnote].
[Footnote]: https://chicagooperatheater.org/season/turing Robdeland (talk) 22:23, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Robdeland, please make any suggestion for an article at the foot of that article's talk page; thus for the article on Turing, at the foot of Talk:Alan Turing. -- Hoary (talk) 22:51, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
What to do about a disruptive young editor?
This one is beyond my pay grade. Could someone look at user:Ericnex13 please? I didn't realise he is only 13 until looking at his home page – after I've given him heavy-weight warnings for disruptive editing. And make no mistake, this is not silly tagging but fairly well crafted fiction. Presumably you have a canned "advice for minor editors" that you can deploy? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 22:47, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think a block is in order. WP:CIR might be useful to point to. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 23:27, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Need help with my submission
Thank you in advance for taking the time to look at my plight. My submission is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Max_and_the_Invaders I've looked at a number of bands who have been less published and well known in their local areas, but I can't seem to get any traction unless I find a book, or can prove the band went on tour. I personally think I included it under some tags that give it extra scrutiny. Could someone please advise me what to do next? Many thanks, Major Major Detail (talk) 23:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Major Detail, User:M4V3R1CK32 has given you extensive advice, which you should consider before resubmitting. There is a lack of good sources. Non-independent sources, including interviews do not count for notability. You appear to have one source, but we need a couple more. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 23:31, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Need help with changing draft name or sandbox name
Hi, I just made my first wiki article but it has the incorrect page name, can anyone help rename it to Frank Velez III?
here is the link to the current page User:Lamano2023/sandbox Lamano2023 (talk) 00:59, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello @Lamano2023 and Welcome to the Teahouse. I have moved your page to a draft where you can keep working on it or submit it for review. Happy editing! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:20, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello @Lamano2023. I have looked at your draft, and I am not sure if the subject qualifies for an article. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:22, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Lamano2023. An acceptable Wikipedia article summarizes the significant coverage that reliable, independent sources devote to the topic, which are presented as references. Your draft completely lacks references to such sources, and therefore cannot be accepted without major revisions. Please familiarize yourself with the Notability guideline for polticians. What is your relationship with Velez? Cullen328 (talk) 02:19, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
Is this an appropriate article to create?
I am interested in creating an article about the subset of Taylor Swift fans (Gaylors) who believe Taylor Swift is queer. There are independent articles from well known publications on the topic that could be used for citation, and I believe there is more than enough information on the topic for it to have it's own article, however I am wondering if the reason it hasn't been created yet is because it is against the conventions of Wikipedia in some way. Derekeaaron1 (talk) 01:27, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello @Derekeaaron1 and Welcome to the Teahouse! As long as the article is properly (reliable, not just blogs) sourced, I see no reason it wouldn’t be created because Wikipedia is not censored. I would recommend creating a draft using the Wikipedia:Article wizard. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:48, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Derekeaaron1: You might wish to discuss this topic at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Taylor Swift. GoingBatty (talk) 02:43, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
"Indian" vs. "Native American" vs. "Indigenous", etc.
Hi there!
In recent times, there has been a lot of discourse about how to refer to people who were or come from a lineage of the first inhabitants of the Americas. The use of "Indian" has been waning in favor of "Native American" or "Indigenous people/person," so I'm wondering if Wikipedia has set any ground rules on this. For example, I recently came across an article that almost exclusively uses "Indian," and I'm not sure whether I should be editing those instances.
Any guidance is much appreciated.
Thanks!
Daniel Nardster (talk) 02:04, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Nardster. When writing about the Indigenous peoples of what is now the United States, the coverage in Native Americans in the United States#Terminology differences may be useful. In Canada, such peoples are commonly called First Nations, but Inuit people in Alaska, Canada and Greenland are usually classified differently. Other terminology is used in Spanish and Portuguese speaking areas of the Americas. The bottom line is that you need to read the sources specific to the topic, and use the terminology used by the sources. Sometimes this will mean introducing and explaining several terms, in context. Cullen328 (talk) 02:40, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
Recent changes
I am looking to patrol recent changes, and I am not finding it to update for me. Could it just be my internet connection? I have the following filter saved: Very likely have problems, very likely bad faith, Unregistered, Newcomers, Human (not bot), Page edits, Page creations, Logged actions, and New users.
Could any of those be triggering some kind of non-responsive feed? I find it hard to believe that there simply is no vandalism at all happening on Wikipedia. TriskySeskel (talk) 02:31, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
math
I don't know how to do long division Angie8238 (talk) 02:32, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and the Teahouse is primarily concerned with assisting new editors who have questions about the encyclopedia itself, specifically editing it. We have an article on Long Division and you can always use a search engine to find tutorials. Please do not continue to use the TeaHouse or other pages of Wikipedia to seek general information. Slywriter (talk) 02:43, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Angie8238: I think Slywriter meant to link to the long division article. GoingBatty (talk) 02:44, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. That's what I get for not clicking the link Slywriter (talk) 02:45, 29 March 2023 (UTC)