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User:PatPeter

User:PatPeter

Hi.

I've a concern, and I would like your thoughts.

The user above has been a sock puppeteer for some time now.

As I recall, he was banned due to an inordinate amount of time in user space, coupled with a fake suicide threat. It was determined that he wasn't here to build the encyclopedia.

Since then, I've encountered him using several IPs. (172.164 172.165 172.167 172.168 and some in other ranges as well 6x. 7x. ) And using several accounts. (See: User talk:The Big X and User talk:Sox207 in particular. And here's a checkUser)

So now I'm in a quandry. In looking over his multitude of edits, they're mostly involving userboxes (Note the name User:Babelious) or harassing other editors when they revert him. (See this lengthy tirade.) The few exceptions mostly include animated television.

I think I've now discovered a "sleeper" account (which has several other sock and IP probabilities with it), and may do a checkUser, but first I wanted to ask:

Is it worth it?

Does it matter if I'm reverting him as an IP or as an account.

I'd love to say he's a well-meaning editor, but the way he attacks people on talk pages and his past actions suggest that this is rather not likely, and besides the want to play with userboxes, he sees Wikipedia mostly as a game.

So here's my quandry. I'm finding myself tempted to unblock him and just say "skip it." His forays in mainspace, rare though they are, are typically non-disruptive minor edits (while often reverted half the time for various reasons related to the edits themselves).

Am I being too forgiving? Probably. (And probably due to the fact that other than him and another indef blocked editor, I don't do much vandalism patrol or blocking.) But anyway, I'd like your thoughts on this.

(I'm honestly wondering if you even remember being involved in the ban discussion at the admin's noticeboard. If I didn't encounter him periodically. I wonder if I would.) - jc37 01:25, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Urgh! I remember PatPeter very well indeed. His homophobic userboxes, the fake suicide and the police calls, his wikilawyering and his attacks on me and others. I have to say I checked his main account and yes, he's socking again. ROWikian (talk · contribs) is  Confirmed as being PatPeter. Just look at the contribs. Personally, I think you may be being a bit lenient, given the way he has treated others. To be honest, he's largely worn out the goodwill of the community, IMO - Alison 05:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're right (of course), I guess it's more likely me tired of chasing sock after sock. (Though I'll have to say that I've gotten fairly experienced with his typical contributions.) Any suggestions? - jc37 05:49, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ROWikian is now blocked.
Do I ask you here about User:Wolfdog1 or write up a checkuser?
(After looking over the contribs of several PatPeter IPs, and looking at Wolfdog1's contribs, and noting his similar subpages, and a lot of the same userboxes on his userpage (compared to PatPeter's). Needless to say, I sincerely hope I'm wrong.) - jc37 06:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Guessing that I'm now hidden behind the flowers : ) - jc37 20:04, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

← Guess I'd better answer this before I get into trouble :) Without checking, I can see that this editor acts a whole lot like PatPeter did; the homophobic userboxes, the obsession with templates and the talk page organization weirdness thing. However, it was okay for me to directly check PatPeter's IP address last time and catch the other sock - that's fine - but the problem is that I have a history with this editor and that he once made a complaint about me (and another admin. Deskana??) to ANI last year so I may be said to have a conflict of interests or a bias. Could you possibly file a request at WP:RFCU and reference what evidence you have, as well as this conversation, and another checkuser will take a fresh look at it and act accordingly. That's probably the best course of action and, IMO, you have enough evidence to at least present a case. Hope this helps (and thank you for being so patient!!) - Alison 00:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(Looks at my feet sheepishly.) Patient, I wasn't. My apologies. I saw you were active, and thought that perhaps you hadn't noticed.
And certainly, I'm fine with requesting a checkuser.
Thank you very much for the clarification. - jc37 03:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, it's listed. - jc37 21:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
These are my thoughts: even after having seen the discussion, I don't think that it is necessarily fair to characterize any suicide threat as "fake." I also do not think it right to use suicide threats as grounds for a disciplinary action, or even (as was done in this case) to count them against somebody when deciding to block them for other valid reasons. As somebody else said, "Anything that involves human life falls under WP:IAR. Human life is more important than encyclopaedias . . . . And for that matter, there is less difference between a seriously suicidal person and someone just making a 'cry for help' than you might think. Many people are caught on the edge, unsure if they want to kill themselves or not. Unfortunately, death is irreversible, and 100 decisions to live can be overridden by one decision to die." So in conclusion, yes I know that sometimes suicide threats are fake, but other times there is some uncertainty even in the mind of the one making the threat, and I don't think we should be the ones to make that judgment. 69.140.152.55 (talk) 09:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Noticed this in passing...the block of that editor wasn't a disciplinary action. See my other posts on the subject. DurovaCharge! 10:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My use of the word "fake" was based on the results of previous discussions. That said, I'll strikeout the word. - jc37 10:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion

Hi, one of my pages was deleted, entitled Chapel School '08, and I was wondering if I could get a copy sent to my e-mail? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaytimdres (talkcontribs) 21:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I'd love to, but you've no email address set in your preferences, so I can't :( - Alison 22:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Check for potential range block

Alison,

Due to a long-ago blocked user who persists in using IP accounts to vandalize my user and talk pages, as well as those of others, almost nightly, I am considering a range block of some addresses connected with the University of Maryland. These would be in the 129.2.17.XX and 129.2.18.XX ranges.

Per the policy page, I am asking you as someone with checkuser access how much collateral damage might be caused if it were a hard block (it would be for the remainder of their academic year, which ends May 25 or so). Can you let me know? And soon. Daniel Case (talk) 02:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh dear. Please block Esprit de corps (talk · contribs). They're Seancarlin84. Also feel free to block both ranges AO/ACB. There will be no collateral damage other than to your vandal. I've also hardblocked a domestic IP which was shared by Seancarlin84 and Esprit de corps - Alison 04:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The usual pattern of vandalizing the userpages of a small group of editors shows up once again. It'd be great to finally be rid of the seancarlin socks. Enigma message 04:42, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's a nuisance. Let me know if they return and I'll see what can be done - Alison 04:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked Espirit indef. for being a sock as per the above discussion. Also, I didn't like his edits to Bugs' user page. Hope this helps! ScarianCall me Pat! 14:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming the latest one was also using the U of Maryland IP range. Enigma message 16:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Law Suit

I will personally be speaking to wikipedia's lawyer, this checkuser business you have no right to access my IP infromation and will be taking wikipedia to court for invasion of privacy. If you have any objections to this then plese take it up with my office. Peterpipper (talk) 21:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As you have now been identified as having been involved in abusive sock-puppetry and have compounded the matter by making legal threats, your account has now been indefinitely blocked by another administrator. You may refer the matter to our legal counsel, Mike Godwin, if you wish, but before doing, please read our checkuser policy and privacy policy to understand the issues involved - Alison 22:02, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh. Sorry Alison, to drag you in to this waste of our time. Pedro :  Chat  22:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

mail

You have mail- don't know if you've seen it or not, as not sure if one of your addys is working. Hope you are doing well.:) Merkin's mum 20:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

3RR block of Major Bonkers

Oh, come on, Alison, please don't block him for that. Please. Look at the history and recollect that it's not the case that you must block—you may block, that's all. I wouldn't it I were you. (Especially not for 31 hours). Bishonen | talk 22:24, 15 May 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Hmmm. Well, I went ahead and prot'd the page so I guess the disruption will have stopped anyways. I'll pop over and see ... - Alison 22:32, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Bishonen | talk 22:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC).[reply]
I took your advice to heart and unblocked him. I also warned the two other tag-teamers - Alison 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I saw. Good call, Alison. Bishonen | talk 07:01, 17 May 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Working again! Thank you both. --Major Bonkers (talk) 09:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delicate sockpuppet situation

Greetings, Alison. Thanks for your speedy checkuser action helping to shut down this sockpuppet & puppetmaster. There's some ongoing difficulty on the project page that exposed this particular case, and I'm not quite sure how to handle it properly. Several of us, including at least two editors much more heavily involved in the project than I, strongly suspect that the user responsible for the 842U/BMWR1200C puppets is in fact also responsible for Vbclerate, Amarapura, Jingpho, and possibly Dddike. I can't speak for the others who suspect, but my own suspicions are based on the content, tone, style, and timing of these users' contributions to the discussion linked above, as well as certain of my suspects' having created their accounts very shortly after 842U's sockpuppetry was discovered and exposed, and/or having contributed only to this discussion. However, all of this is circumstantial, and I'm not clear on the standard of evidence required to initiate a checkuser investigation. I don't want to make extra work for anyone by filing an accusation that'll have to be tossed out as improper or frivolous. Is there some quick and easy way to check for more 842U puppets?

Two further notes:

1. I do not regard disagreement with my opinions, interpretations, preferences, or actions as prima facie evidence of sock puppetry. I believe it is possible for reasonable people given the same situation to disagree, and I bear no ill will caused by disagreement (though I do take a dim view of those who behave badly and/or refuse to comply with the letter and/or spirit of Wikipedia policy, protocol, and rules).

2. It looks as if Jingpho and Amarapura are already categorised as suspected sock puppets of 842U. Does it mean they're under active investigation, or just that someone suspects them?

Any assistance or advice you can give will be much appreciated. Please respond here or on my own talk page, as you prefer. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 23:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Favour

Could you please archive the Talk:Club Penguin page? --Vinni3 (talk) 06:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Alison 07:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Email

Dear Alison, I have sent you an email. Anyway, I remember you from Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Boomgaylove and my question partly concerns this thread as I am not sure how we list suspected IPs at RfCU or if I should just wait for a checkuser to comment on that thread or what. I do also have another question I am curious about that I included in the email. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 18:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE: Actually a formal checkuser request has been made by another editor at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Eyrian that goes beyond the IP identified. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 17:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of socking...

Can you take a look into this, this, this, and this for me? I'm pretty sure that qualifies as an attempt to manipulate polling and create the appearance of consensus, which means Kingjeff should be warned/blocked and the IP should be banned, right? I never had my roommate vote in the poll or weigh in on the discussion. All I asked him to do was keep the templates at the status quo until after the discussion had taken place. This is also pretty silly as the discussion had been resolved in his favor already. -- Grant.Alpaugh 20:28, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That anon editor is Red X Unrelated to Kingjeff - Alison 00:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking a look into it. It appears it was nothing more than someone copying his post in order to vote. Thanks anyway. -- Grant.Alpaugh 06:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trioblóid le hathainmniú

An féidir leat súil a chur arís ar Wikipedia:RFCU#Here.27s_some_fun? Chonacthas gur choisc thú níos mó ná deichniúr aréir agus tá grúpa nua curtha síos ag MER-C. Stifle (talk) 13:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blargh :b Ar ais arís? Beidh mé timpeall I gceann tamaillín - táim sa leaba fós! :) - Alison 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moving Article without agreement

Ali, pl check Great Britain and Ireland asap; some e-warriors are trying to merge it despite an active discussion which is not concluded. Sarah777 (talk) 23:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sarah. Everything seems fine for the moment; nothing's moved and the discussion seems to be ongoing ... - Alison 06:04, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Only 'cos I moved it back twice and was running out of reverts! Sarah777 (talk) 14:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
User:Deacon of Pndapetzim has joined the edit-warring tag-team. I thought you Admins were opposed to this type of behavior? Or does that not apply to British editors with a British pov agenda? Sarah777 (talk) 04:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lack of action noted and contrasted with the block I got for alleged incivility under provocation by an warring Admin. Thanks a bunch Ali. Sarah777 (talk) 08:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Alison, Our favourite sockmaster is back. China and Names of China are once again clogged up with Peter zhou's sockpuppet edits. Could you track down his sleepers? Thanks, nat.utoronto 05:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nat. I'll get to it in the morning. In bed now :) - Alison 06:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Confirmed again, the usual drawerful:
  1. Suakrau (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  2. Cleakie (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  3. Kraiyoi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  4. Kokrauwrie (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  5. Bofee (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  6. Liuwrilia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  7. Wruazuezoa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  8. Singaga (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  9. Hiutroayoi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  10. Vuoflilia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  11. Zoixatlua (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  12. Moecraucria (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  13. Druitrebra (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  14. Loeslee (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  15. Mahadio (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  16. Gaiproiflio (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  17. Bluofoe (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  18. Gloatuplae (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  19. Gowiju (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  20. Gluiquipu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  21. Dlikleklion (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  22. Glaopreasuo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  23. Weopleo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  24. Seeprie (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  25. Wasui (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  26. Zuograo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  27. Griehiu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  28. Dindong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  29. Fleo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  30. Flau (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  31. Wrepion (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  32. Cluaboiblo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  33. Sliasliu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  34. Preislae (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  35. Yuecliucleo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Phew! I think that's them all for the moment - Alison 18:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All blocked now :) -- lucasbfr talk 08:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism and Edit Warring by User:CarterBar

Ali, pl note that this British editor has moved the article while discussion is ongoing. Are you going to do anything?????? Sarah777 (talk) 14:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Email (Archive 22)

Hey Alison, any word yet? The user who asked me to send you the email is getting slightly impatent :P Thanks, Mww113 (talk) 21:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to do this but...

Follow me to join the secret cabal!

Plip!

I have waited over a week for a response, I'm sure your busy but this is giving me a lot of WikiStress. Thanks Mww113 (talk) 01:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nah, I'm not really that mean. But I do need a response, thanks! :P Mww113 (talk) 01:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppet of User:Bennet556

User:Hurlfordkillie has done a number of problematic edits per [1]. In addition, the editor has vandalized a totally unrelated article at Huntington Beach, California here [2]. In addition, User:Hurlfordkillie opened the account on May 2[3], two days after User:Nimbley66 was blocked[4]. Because the only user making edits like this to these totally unrelated two articles in the past is banned User:Bennet556, could you see if User:Hurlfordkillie is a sockpuppet? Thanks, Alanraywiki (talk) 22:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed - Alison 16:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for doing that. What is the best way to go about having User:Hurlfordkillie blocked as a sockpuppet because they are back at it. Would you be doing that or would I request another admin to do it? Thanks, Alanraywiki (talk) 22:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Taking care of what I can. SirFozzie (talk) 00:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you both. Alanraywiki (talk) 00:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hello again

Email sent to you just now.... cheers Tvoz/talk 01:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replied - thanks for that! Done and sorted now ... - Alison 16:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Padraig

Alison, thank you for letting us know about the sad news about Padraig. Although I never communicated with him, it was sad to hear he had died. I hope that as a friend of his your pain will ease. Autarch (talk) 11:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit of a shock, all right. Padraig was one of the more easy-going "Troubles" editors, tho' I did block him for edit-warring once. The wiki will be a lot poorer without him - Alison 16:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have added a checkuser block tag, as a sockpuppet of Dereks1x. He is claiming that he is not a sockpuppet. Just looking for you to confirm the findings of the checkuser. If you could reply on his talk page, that would be great. Thanks, Rjd0060 (talk) 15:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, thanks - Alison 16:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Your evident lack of ethics, not to mention your conflict of interest, are much appreciated. Keep up the good work! SHEFFIELDSTEELTALK 19:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. You may wish to meet and greet another user Vios1Per (talk · contribs) in much the same fashion. Thanks much. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 19:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :) And yeah, blocked an open proxy as well as two other sockies - Alison 20:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Very good work you did with that situation. -OberRanks (talk) 20:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Another indication of Allie's greatness compared to Dmcdevit. :) —Dark talk 09:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now, now!! - Alison 08:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

disappearing messages

Could you tell me what happened here? I left two messages for Awadewit and they both disappeared (from history and contribution lists) --RelHistBuff (talk) 22:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I've emailed you about this. Sorry about all the trouble - Alison 23:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you take out his IP ranges for 24-48 hours? I know there's a lot of collateral but he's simply not getting the message and responses on ANI have not been helpful. If you can't or don't want to, then that's fine. Regards, nat.utoronto 05:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I'm a bit uncomfortable doing that right now, especially a hardblock. Let's see how the ANI discussion continues before doing anything as extreme as this. At the least, we'll need to checkuser the range to figure out collateral damage - Alison 05:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Administration Assistance

Hello, I would like to become an admin. I saw your name on the list of coaches, and was wondering if you could help me. Thank you if you do, and thank you for your time if you don't. You can see some of my work here, Deadwood Bonsai Techniques, here John Kiggins, and here Uaru. Remilo (talk) 12:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I'm really sorry, but I'm not doing any tutoring for the near future. I'm so busy on-and-off Wiki. Really sorry about that - Alison 22:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's okay. Remilo (talk) 16:18, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite paying enough attention

Okay, so I've been marginally out to lunch the past week and ruined an entire long weekend doing paperwork from the office, not even getting to edit anything fun (let alone plant the garden). But it took me to this morning to realise that you'd done a bit of drive-by "vandalism" to my userpage! I promise to be more attentive to guests in the future. Thanks, I wondered where those came from! Risker (talk) 13:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, EVula - obviously still out to lunch! Risker (talk) 14:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sneaky. EVula // talk // // 15:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
lol - glad to help :) - Alison 21:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser

Hello!

First of all, I want to apologize if I'm bothering you since I can tell that you are more than just fairly busy.

I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look at a RFCU I put in a few days ago at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Girl Get it. This was only the second RFCU I've ever submitted and the first one was for the same case of a suspected block evading sockpuppeteer. I had some issues in trying to get the case to display properly so I'm wondering if it's still not listed the way it should be. I'm only asking because I listed it on May 16 and, so far, there's been no results. I understand that there is a possibility that there is a CU backlog so, if that's the case, please ignore me and accept my apologies. I just want to make sure that my case is listed properly so that it can be confirmed as related or unrelated accordingly.

Thank you very much for your time!

Peace! SWik78 (talkcontribs) 14:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - sorry about the delay! Things can get busy around here :) - Alison 21:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help.
Peace! SWik78 (talkcontribs) 14:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My Recent Rfa

I would just like to say thanks for the neutral vote in my recent RFA. I will still say thanks as from your comments and the other users comments that opposed me and gave me a neutral vote have made me make a todo list for before my next RFA. I hope I will have resolved all of the issues before then and I hope that you would be able to support me in the future. If you would like to reply to this message or have any more suggestions for me then please message me on my talk page as I will not be checking back here. Thanks again. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 16:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Alison, if I am in and edit war with editor with Sally, and on the verge of 3RR, and I openly invite another editor Jane (who is elsewhere ostensibly moderating a discussion about the to develop consensus on the very subject on which Sally and I disagree) to intercede on my behalf, make an edit to keep me from violating 3RR... have I broken the Wikipedia rules, if so, which? Is this "punishable?" Also, lets say the other editor Jane complies with my request and makes exactly the edit I request... what are the ramifications to that editor? Pleaseread (talk) 17:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another Dereks1x sock?

Caught this one escaping the dryer. Enigma message 20:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed - yup - Alison 21:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Email

You've got mail. Trust me, you'll want to see it ;).¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 02:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, not sure you want to see mine as much as the one above but I sent you one as well :) SirFozzie (talk) 02:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
*Pokes Alison* :P¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 14:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
*Pokes again*...were you able to receive it :)?¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 07:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Did, yeah, PPG ;) Thanks for the note. Needless to say, I'm doing exactly what you suggested. Take a look ;) - Alison 08:19, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

protection request

Hi Alison, could you please semi-protect User:Kyoko/Genesis Apocryphon for the usual reasons? Thanks. --Kyoko 05:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Alison 05:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock request

Hi Alison, BusinessLawyer (talk · contribs) is asking for an unblock. I have to say, I can't see any threats in the contrib history, is this a checkuser block? Thought I would ask. Thanks and warm regards. Woody (talk) 12:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done and unblock declined. Thanks for letting me know - Alison 14:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

194.81.151.68

I changed your soft block into a hard block. There haven't been any legit edits from that IP in a long time. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 14:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So I notice. And yes, I'm perfectly fine with that. Good call, indeed - Alison 08:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We had a request over at WP:EAR for someone to check out this article. I wouldn't know the first thing about the place, but figured you either would know or would know who to ask about it. If you have a minute, please check it out. Thanks. And great to hear from you, too. Pastordavid (talk) 15:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fromos

Alison, can you check to see if Fromos (talk · contribs) is a reincarnation of Jmfangio (talk · contribs)? (Please see Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Tecmobowl if you need a refresher on the case.) Fromos, who did not edit for a year, has filed an arbitration request out of the blue against Chrisjnelson, the user whom Jmfangio regularly harassed. Thanks. --B (talk) 20:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I'm really sorry, but I've no history to go on here, and it's a little bit fishingy. Can you run this request past User:Voice of All or User:Morven as both of them have worked on the Tecmobowl case in the past. Also, note that the Fromos account dates from early 2006, so it's somewhat unlikely ... - Alison 08:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re. Public Information Research

Is the next step to remove the string "Daniel Brandt" from the references in the PIR article? I fail to see how mentioning Brandt, the only person who seems to have anything to do with the intelligence-agent-personal-information database, four or five times instead of once or twice violates BLP. 'Lowering the quality and Google rank of articles' doesn't seem to be stated in the policy yet. John Nevard (talk) 07:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No it's not, John. However, I did receive a complaint from the subject - and coincidentally, same subject threatened me with Hivemind no less than 30 minutes ago. He's no friend of mine. However, standards are standards and I evaluated his complaint and edited accordingly as I felt his concern had merit - Alison 08:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another sockpuppet of User:Bennet556

User:Kilmarnockscotlandsteel has done the same kind of edits as User:Hurlfordkillie, namely numerous edits to Kilmarnock (see [5], including copyvios (gave a warning on that), vandalism of Huntington Beach, California (see [6]), and the new user account was set up two days [7] after User:Hurlfordkillie was blocked. I believe it is a sockpuppet of User:Bennet556. Thanks, Alanraywiki (talk) 21:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed - Alison 21:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Admin coaching?

Hello, Alison. :) I know you're very busy, but you're one of the few admin coaches available at this time, and I was wondering whether or not you'd be able to coach me; I'm currently looking for a coach to help me out. Would you be interested?

Cheers, --Mizu onna sango15/珊瑚15 04:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Kinda like the last chicken at Sainsbury's, hm? :) Actually, I'm really sorry but I'm not actually mentoring right now due to being busy in RL, amongst other things. Really sorry - Alison 04:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lol. :P Well, thanks anyway. :)

Take care, --Mizu onna sango15/珊瑚15 05:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Chickens at Sainsbury, Allie? I'm having a hard time imagining... :P —Dark talk 09:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's a Billy Connolly expression :) - Alison 11:43, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With thanks

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For consistent work dealing with issues regarding cross wiki vandalism - many thanks Herby talk thyme 11:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow! Thank you so much, Herby :) - Alison 22:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possible sock?

Hi Alison, you may find Special:Contributions/Cherry rose interesting. I don't care about this enough to file a SSP or RFCU request, but I know you are watching several people who edit on these topics as several of them are on probation. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that! Yes, it's pretty obvious who that is. I guess they had to create a sock account due to their ISP being rangeblocked recently - Alison 17:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another sockpuppet of User:Bennet556?

User:Jimmycrackcorn44 has done the same kind of edits as User:Hurlfordkillie, namely numerous edits to Kilmarnock (see [8]), inserting new populations and town names (like [9] compared to [10] and [11]), vandalism of Huntington Beach, California (see [12]), and the new user account was set up the day after User:Kilmarnockscotlandsteel was blocked([13]). I believe it is a sockpuppet of User:Bennet556. In addition, Kilmarnock may need a semi-protect. Thanks, Alanraywiki (talk) 22:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed - Alison 22:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah's last stand?

I fear the Wiki community is fed up with Sarah's charges of political bias; her tampering with an AfD tag seems to have released alot of previously held back frustrations from others. I wish I could help get her out of trouble, but it seems I can only do so much; the rest is up to her. GoodDay (talk) 16:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've made one more plea to her. GoodDay (talk) 19:09, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
:( I'm not sure if there's anything I can do, GoodDay. I'm all for giving her another-other-other chance but seems we're in the minority - Alison 19:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I leave that task with you Alison. I wish you (and Sarah) good luck. GoodDay (talk) 20:01, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the ball is very much in Sarah's court now. A sea-change in her way of addressing perceived injustices is required, without that there is little any of can do. I hope she can make that change. By the way, Allie. I was sorry to hear about your recent off-wiki issues. If in the future you need an admin to make a difficult block in relation to this, drop me an email. Rockpocket 20:11, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am backing out of this conversation before I get charged with bloodthirstiness again. But please consider what you're proposing and whether you actually think it is possible. If you think you can do something here, then more power -- and respect -- to you. - Revolving Bugbear 23:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, guys, and thanks, Rocky, for your kind words. All's well in that regard for the near future at least. I've followed up on ANI to the latest responses and will give things another while to see what other folks say. I'm really loath to give up on her :( - Alison 11:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

my RfA - Ta!

Gwen gleans, wending keen by the wikirindle.

Thanks for strongly supporting my RfA, which went through 93/12/5. I'll be steadfast in this trust the en.Wikipedia community has given me. Cheers! Gwen Gale (talk) 01:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


CowboyCaleb1

Looks like he is back and back to annoying D.M.N. Is there any chance you can look at the underlying ips again and do something to stop him? Cheers Spartaz Humbug! 06:57, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See my talkpage history for more information. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 07:36, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also see User talk:Tiptoety#Thank you, and.... Cheers, -The Hybrid- 08:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 IP blocked - hope that helps, but we'll have to see. Can't see any other accounts under there ... - Alison 11:20, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Spartaz Humbug! 11:36, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Krabs checkuser request

Hi Alison. I'm asking you because you may remember 216.83.121.194 and Krabs502. There has been another recent outbreak of hoaxes. I've managed to put together some suspects at User_talk:Zzuuzz#Yet_another_Krabs_sock. and I've blocked some open proxies, but I wonder if you'd mind checkusering for puppets and the like (no real hurry). Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 11:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

zzuuzz, I'll have a look at this in the morning. I'm sleep-editing here at the moment as it's 4:30am here :) - Alison 11:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yoshi525

This banned user has many sockpuppets, and plans to vandalise various football and mathematics articles. Be warned!! 86.141.15.129 (talk) 16:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks...

very much for your kind words and support at my RFA. It means a lot to have the confidence of one's peers and perhaps particularly of editors as well respected as you! I hope to live up to the trust and not to mess up to badly or too quickly! --Slp1 (talk) 13:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help Neede

Hey Alison. Sorry for disturbing ,You dont know me. I just saw you on the checkuser request page and I thought you might be able to help me out. I know several users whose editing history are very similar so I thought it might be one person with several different accounts. Could you check the possible connection between user:Kayrat Tuntekov, user:Kesälauantait , and user:Lycander's Aim? One of them even had some disruptive edits on "Asia" page.At least two of them have been editing articles "blond" "Asia" and "Europe " with almost same intervals.I am a new user and I dont knoe how to ckech them or whatever you do.If they are not connected and Im wrong thats OK too. Thanks --Anna polly (talk) 15:48, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]