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January 26

RoseGarden Playback Feature

I have moved this question and my answer to the Computing desk, where it will be more likely to get a good answer. Please follow this link. --NorwegianBlue^talk 17:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Songs

There is a song with possibly the lyrics themselves " ... I'm writing this song ... " or just that the song is about "writing this song" by someone who sounds like kt tunstall. Who is the artist and the name of this song?

Another song is a rock song with the line usually repeating at the the end of the chorus and or verse: "I want to be with you" or "I only want to be with you". The singer is vocal male sounding. Who is the artist and the name of this song?96.53.149.117 (talk) 02:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about the first one, but the second sounds like Only Wanna Be With You by Hootie and the Blowfish, possibly. Hermione1980 02:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm giving away my age here, and I don't know who K. T. Tunstall is, but the first thing your first description brought to mind is Elton John's Your Song, and the first thing your second description brought to mind is I Only Want to Be with You, first recorded by Dusty Springfield but covered by a number of artists, including males. Deor (talk) 02:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yea the rock song i mention, youred right. Well K. T. Tunstall is the lady who wrote the theme to devil wears prada. It's a kind of like a ballad, like in the style of norah jones or a piano song.96.53.149.117 (talk) 03:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fairly sure the first one is These Words by Natasha Bedingfield. A hateful song. Malcolm XIV (talk) 11:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nope not but natasha (it doesn't sound like her voice; anyhow). and not that song for sure.96.53.149.117 (talk) 09:00, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I had an inkling the second could be To Be with You by Mr Big which was overplayed on the radio in the early nineties, and my god, look at their truly shocking hair on that single cover. Nanonic (talk) 13:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Obviously I'm as in the dark as everyone else, but I keep thinking that the first one is something by Katie Melua, but I can't seem to think of which song. She seems to break the fourth wall with her songs a lot. As for the second, could be Volbeat version of Only Wanna Be With You quite a sureal rock-a-billy version. -- WORM MЯOW 08:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another Song

It came out about five years ago. It featured a man rapping with a white soprano girl doing the chorus. The video started with a family talking about their son going to war (and maybe his kid missing him)? The song was about missing people when they go away and wanting them to come back and the video featured the soprano sitting in an empty house, singing to noone. It was a pretty big hit for a time. I know that's not a lot to go on, but I'd appreciate any help. Thanks 24.178.112.221 (talk) 03:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This song wasn't five years ago, but maybe Where'd You Go by Fort Minor? --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 05:58, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quantum of Solace

Is the James Bond theme ever heard in this film? 200.112.17.237 (talk) 13:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to James Bond Theme it appears twice.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:12, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Depeche Mode so popular in Eastern Europe? (question moved from Humanities desk)

Although Depeche Mode is a British band, they seem to be considerably more popular in Eastern Europe (i.e. the former Soviet bloc countries) than they are in the UK itself. This isn't noted in the Depeche Mode article, but I'm sure I read it somewhere and through personal experience I have also found it to be true. Actually, relatively few people in the UK seem to be interested in Depeche Mode these days, but it's a different story in Eastern Europe... I gather there's a bar/nightclub in Estonia that plays nothing but Depeche Mode. So does anyone know the reason(s) for this phenomenon? I actually like the band; they're better than a lot of other UK bands from the same era, and since. More interesting than Joy Division for example who are extremely popular today in the UK amongst people who like that kind of music (although New Order are probably more interesting than Joy Division and have a sound which is probably closer to Depeche Mode, and of course New Order is just Joy Division minus Ian Curtis, but there's a fairly radical change of sound after the first New Order record which is quite like Closer by Joy Division (at least stylistically) if I remember rightly).

On an unrelated note, looking at the article, I see that Linkin Park was influenced by Depeche Mode. I'd never thought about it before but actually that makes a lot of sense when you think about it... the angsty electronic-backed melodies with expressive singing are definitely there in both bands.--'Cause It's No Good (talk) 11:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You'd probably be better off asking this question at a Depeche Mode-related talkpage. Try www.depechemodeforum.com, for example. Malcolm XIV (talk) 11:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I meant to put this to the Entertainment reference desk, can one of the mods move it there? Thanks very much.--'Cause It's No Good (talk) 11:27, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have to be an admin to move a question, anyone can do it (as I just proved). --Richardrj ^talk ^email 13:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good question, and it applies to a lot of British groups who find themselves more popular in Europe. In fact, it quite often happens that artists from any country are more popular in another part of the world than they are at home. To think of a couple more examples off the top of my head, Bush (band) are British, yet much more popular in America. American free jazz artists such as Albert Ayler have always been more popular in continental Europe than either the UK or USA. In general it's a matter of the type of music being more in tune with prevailing musical traditions elsewhere. In the case of Depeche Mode, their style of music is electropop, which has never really gained a huge following in Britain. However, there is a long and honourable tradition of European electronic/synth pop bands, most notably Kraftwerk. To take another example, Van der Graaf Generator are British, but their brand of operatic progressive rock finds most favour in countries like Italy which have strong operatic traditions. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 13:18, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But wasn't Van Der Graaf Generator only popular there because they toured with the Italian prog band Premiata Forneria Marconi in the 70s?--'Cause It's No Good (talk) 17:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I don't find the analogies with other artists to be satisfactory in truly explaining why Depeche Mode is phenomenally popular in Eastern Europe. Thanks for the help, but I don't think it truly answers my question.--'Cause It's No Good (talk) 17:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know a thing or two about Van Der Graaf Generator, and AFAIK they never toured with PFM (although I stand to be corrected). They were phenomenally popular in Italy in the 70s off their own bat, due to constant touring and, as I have said, their musical style being reminiscent of the Italian operatic tradition. As for ver Mode, I found this via a google search (it seems to be from an earlier version of the wiki article): "While Depeche Mode remains quite popular in the US, Western Europe and Australia, its most loyal fan base and widest appeal seems to lie in Central Europe and Eastern Europe, fed by the timely confluence of several key events in this part of the world in the early 90's: the then world-wide popularity of Depeche Mode and synthesized dance music in general (which has since waned in the US), the collapse of communism, and the rise of the Internet with the instant access this brought to a region thirsting for western music and ideals." --Richardrj ^talk ^email 08:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This also won't answer your question, but: the Depeche Mode bar in Tallinn not only plays nothing but Depeche Mode, it also shows nothing but Depeche Mode videos (muted) on its several televisions, and has a menu of drinks named after Depeche Mode songs. That being said, the bar is owned by the founder and president of the Estonian Depeche Mode fan club, and there are two photo albums on display jam packed with pictures of this guy posing with various members of the band. Apparently he's been obsessed with them since they were making gay-themed dance pop back in the dark ages. So the bar isn't really evidence of a general Estonian obsession with Depeche Mode, so much as of the fact that some people's fandom knows no bounds. Still, you're right (about Depeche Mode being big in Eastern Europe, not about Joy Division being uninteresting), and it'd be nice to know what the story is. There are tons of bands that gain a huge following in seemingly random places, and there's usually a reason for it, though it's typically mundane stuff like "heavy radio play," "frequent touring," "good PR," or "a really big concert." --Fullobeans (talk) 08:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Philadelphia Experiment Movies

Does anybody know how many Philadelphia Experiment movies were made ? Scotius (talk) 14:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The was the The Philadelphia Experiment, which, as far as I know, is the only film to date about it. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 17:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There was a sequel, BTW, which is mentioned in our article. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 17:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also see The Triangle (2005), Unholy (2007) and 100 Million BC (2008). Pepso2 (talk) 20:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There was a film I tried to tape off the TV years ago, but I only got the first few minutes of it which I'm not sure but I thought was called Philadelphia Experiment 3. The film starts with a group soldiers in Nazi uniforms in a bunker type place I think, than the next bit was with this family in modern day America and the father was complaining about his neighbour that is making noises in his garage again. The first few minutes continued to show the Nazi soldiers in their base then back to the family complaining about their neighbour. Is this of any help to anyone ? Scotius (talk) 11:39, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Music from Cold Mountain

Where would I be able to find music of a similar style to that in the movie Cold Mountain? And some information about the style too? Thankyou 80.35.203.22 (talk) 14:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We have an article on the Cold Mountain (soundtrack), which further links to Appalachian folk music, which should give you a good start. --LarryMac | Talk 15:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hijab gucci calvin klein

I began to notice that a lot of Muslim ladies are wearing hijab with brand names on it like Gucci, Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger, in variety of colours. Is there any other clothing brand whose name is on the hijabs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.204.74.240 (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

January 27

Olde tyme pipe/tube computer game

I have a vague memory of a game I played in school in the late 80s or early 90s, probably on an Apple IIe. It involved connecting a series of tubes to deliver Senatorial email. Just kidding. It did involve connecting a series of tubes, but the objective was to deliver a ball to its destination. In addition to differently shaped tubes, you were given tubes of different diameters, and connectors which would change the size of the ball to fit through the tubes. I thought it was called Pipe Dream, but that's clearly the wrong game, and this is driving me a little bit crazy. Thoughts? --Fullobeans (talk) 07:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There have been about 100 games with the same basic premise. I used to play one called "Wall Pipe" which had the same basic premise, except you had to get water from a faucet into a bathtub. You had like a 1 minute timer until the water started to flow, then you had to stay ahead of it. The game probably came out in 1990 or 1991 for an early version of Windows. Your game may have very well been called "Pipe Dream" as well... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 17:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pipe Dream was the U.S. name of Pipe Mania. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 17:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, but the ball is key! I won't mention how much time I've spent reading about various versions of Pipe Dream/Pipe Mania, but it looks like none of them involved a ball. --Fullobeans (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Best aphex twin songs

Hey everyone i am just now getting into aphex twin and i was wondering if there were some songs of theirs you would really reccomend? In addition are their any other bands i might enjoy that are similar in sound? Thank you very much!

24.88.103.234 (talk) 23:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We have an article on Aphex Twin and one on Aphex Twin discography. That would give you a start. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 05:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other artists that often get mentioned in the same context as Aphex Twin include Squarepusher, Venetian Snares, and The Flashbulb. Many artists on Warp Records also tend to be worth looking up in that genre. As for individual recommendations, I've never met two people who agree when it comes to Aphex Twin. He's made quite the variety of stuff and everyone seems to prefer different ones.~ mazca ^t|c 08:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you're just getting into Aphex Twin be sure to check out the videos for his songs by Chris Cunningham. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.109.235.99 (talk) 14:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I rather enjoy Come to Daddy and both volumes of "Selected Ambient Works." The "Druqs" album is also very fun, though the titles are almost impossible for me to pronounce! — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 18:34, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

January 28

name the novel (fantasy trilogy)

It's a fantasy trilogy novel series... I can't seem to remember its name though. I read it like 5 years ago... In the first book, there is a family (a mother, a father, twin son and daughter, and a baby) and the book starts off with the family moving within the city into a lower hierarchy region. (in the fictional universe of the novel, everyone is divided into different social caste status, with each caste represented by different colours) I don't remember much, but the father takes some kind of an exam to make a living or something, and at the end, the twins do something heroic to save the townspeople. in the second book, the twins are now teenagers, and an evil and sinister force lures in millions of innocent children and brainwashes them to form a mind controlled army. It's rather reminiscent of the chinese army in the korean war: in one incident, these children army literally fills a trench with their bodies to get across it. one of the twins' friends gets recruited into the army against his(/her ??) will and eventually the children manage to save them. (or was all of this in the first book?? i really don't know lol) the army keeps on chanting "Kill! Kill! Kill!" Also in the second book, the twins run away, and the girl twin disguises as a servant of a princess. the princess is rather lonely, so she really likes her servant and they become close friends. However, the princess needs to take dancing lessons so that she can dance with a prince in a ball, but she sucks at it. But the twin girl realizes she is quite good at it even though she has never had any dancing lessons before. So, the girl poses as the princess in the ball, and dances beautifully with the prince. Also, the princess falls in love with the twin brother (she hasn't even met him yet) , just from hearing stories that the twin sister told her. In the third book, the family and some of the townspeople migrate from their homeland to an unknown paradiseland. during their trip, they encounter an unusual creature or more of a mental parasite that latches onto a particular person and makes them act strange. for example, when the parasite was inside the father (the leader of the pack) it makes him snappy and aggressive, and when the parasite resides inside the princess (she actually left her kingdom to follow the twins' family) it makes her less shy and kisses the twin brother. the twin brother has some kind of a psychic ability, and is able to get rid of the parasite (in the princess's case, he kisses her to understand the parasite better, and to drag the parasite out of her) and in an alongside story arc, there is this round looking hermit that bounces, and it recruits the twin brother as his apprentice or something. the bouncy thing teaches the brother how to do supernatural stuff, including walking on air. the twin sister lives with her brother and this hermit on a boat. she learns to do stuff on her own just by watching the hermit give lessons to the brother. near the end of the book, the twin brother must sacrifice himself to save the world or something so he goes to this island where all kinds of strange mythical sorcerers and creatures meet (including the bouncy). but in the end, the bouncy tells him that it wasn't him that was meant to be sacrificed, it was his sister. He doesn't accept his sister's fate, so he fights with her sister (with mental telekinesis or something) but he realizes she is stronger than him, so the sister sacrifices herself in the end. In the epilogue, the family and the townspeople have found their paradiseland, the twin sister is dead, but her mind resides inside the brother's head (they had this special mental connection since they were children). the brother is now happily married with the princess from the second/third book and they have children.

I read this series while i was in adelaide, australia. I borrowed it from the children's books section in the marion library centre (park holme). I'm not sure if this is an australian novel or an american or british, or even if it went international. I know that my description of the series is quite poor, but any help with remembering the name of these novels would be appreciated. Thanks. Johnnyboi7 (talk) 08:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, my first instinct was Time of the Twins, which I haven't read myself, but the description and plot summary don't quite match your summary. I'll have a look and see what I can find. -- WORM MЯOW 08:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just found out, it's Wind on Fire series. but thanx anywaysJohnnyboi7 (talk) 05:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

T-shirt design

Can anyone identify the design on the fourth t-shirt from the bottom of this page? Is it just some artsy design or is it a reference to something specific? Dismas|^(talk) 04:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The green one with the guy with the handlebar mustache, looking at the crescent moon and stars, holding in his hands what appears to be the Volcom gem logo? Other than being a stylistic picture around the Volcom logo, I don't know of any significance to the picture. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 05:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OH!! That's what it is! I could make out the moon and stars but didn't "see" a man with a handlebar mustache until you explained it. Now I see it. I guess it's a Volcom shirt now that you also point out what he is holding. Now that I know it's a person and that those bits are arms/hands, it makes more sense. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 08:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heavy metal a victim of reverse discrimination? (question moved from Misc desk)

Have any interesting articles been written on whether the overrepresentation of hip-hop and underrepresentation of metal in the North American music scene is reverse discrimination? Neon Merlin 06:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, first of all you'd have to define what you mean by the "music scene". That could mean the variety of groups, of venues, of live shows being put on, of records sold, etc. I suspect what you're actually talking about is the media, which is a different thing altogether. Metal fans in Britain – and I suspect it will be the same in North America – are always complaining that their music doesn't get enough coverage in the mainstream media (radio, TV, press and so on). By contrast, hip hop is probably fairly well covered in the media. There's no reason why you should imagine that there's a relationship between these two levels of coverage, though. Most genres except metal – rock, soul, R&B etc – get pretty good coverage. So why doesn't metal, even though metal acts sell millions of records? By and large, because the people who make the decisions on who gets covered feel that metal is basically uncool, with an unattractive image, a fanbase that their viewers/listeners/readers are not part of and have no wish to be, and little to recommend it musically. You could call that unfair if you like, but it would be a waste of time if you ask me. I like free improvisation and post-industrial, and those genres aren't exactly on heavy rotation either. Doesn't bother me. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 06:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discrimination on what basis, is there any evidence that hip-hoppers are a historically disadvantaged group and metallers are members of a historically advantaged group? Or do you mean the demographics of the people that make or listen to such music? In that case is it racial, economic, sexual? Rockpocket 08:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Racial, AFAICT. Neon Merlin 15:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then who are you suggesting might be discriminated against – metal fans? musicians? – and by whom? Sorry but I still don't understand the premise of your question. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 15:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So you're looking for evidence of some sort of 'musical affirmative action', where "black" musical styles are given preference over "white" ones? APL (talk) 15:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the questioner is looking for "interesting articles" that describe the polularity of hip hop versus the lack of popularity for heavy metal as discrimination against white people (where popularity is defined by the genres' relative prevalence in the media). I could be wrong though. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 15:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt much has been said about this, because you're not being discriminatory if you don't make your orange juice out of apples. The radio plays mass-marketable music; generally, that means poppy, catchy, or danceable. Poppier "metal" bands do get lots of airplay. But a lot of metal is intentionally alienating and difficult to listen to, and that's part of the appeal. Most serious metal fans don't want to see teenyboppers at the mall wearing Darkthrone shirts. That being said, metal has been heavily marketed to the public in the past, and probably will be again, but the current trend is toward dance-oriented R&B/hip hop and pop rock. Meanwhile, metal continues to flourish as a niche market. I'll bet there are a lot more "serious" hip hop artists complaining about lack of airplay than there are "serious" metal artists, because the metal scene is international and well-established, whereas the underground hip hop scene has to compete with top 40 radio for much of its audience. --Fullobeans (talk) 21:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My theory is that we don't hear much heavy metal any more because, by now, they've smashed and/or incinerated all their instruments. :-) StuRat (talk) 15:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC) [reply]

I think I'll go with "music is not a zero-sum game". The presence (or absence) of one musical genre does not meaningfully impact the absence (or presence) of another. So no, no discrimination. Just the market following the money. — Lomn 20:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

old 90s/80s cartoon

hi i'm looking for an old 90's/80's cartoon, it stars a blond kid (he looked a bit like Mighty max) who lives in a haunted lighthouse/castle and could travel to a world populated by monsters, most of them were friendly except this christmas tree monster which would trap people in its baubles (cant believe i just typed that!) can you help me find it?--Lerdthenerd (talk) 17:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nation ? That is, where did you see it and where do you think it was made ? StuRat (talk) 15:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

England, I'm sure it was an english or european cartoon (probably not american i looked there but can't find anything that resembles it)--Lerdthenerd (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it helps the cartoon was on during the afternoon after school, i watched it in similar time slot along with bump in the night, oscar and oscar's orcherstra (that cartoon with the talking piano. (why has no onele answered this yet, please do!)--Lerdthenerd (talk) 16:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

January 29

Wrestler in The Wrestler

Who is the wrestler that Randy the Ram wrestles early in the film? The guy with the mohawk? AnyPerson (talk) 03:06, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What to do when the question scrolls off into the Archives?

I responded to a question, but since it is in the Archives, it might not be seen! :( TresÁrboles (talk) 07:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's really a question for the Reference Desk talk page, I guess, but I'll answer here. If you want to make sure the original poster (or anyone else in the thread) sees your response, the thing to do is to add a section to their personal talk page telling them about it. Either copy your response onto there or link to the archived Reference Desk page. --Anonymous, 07:20 UTC, January 29, 2009.

Also, we're not supposed to respond in archives once they are no longer transcluded here. Unfortunately, our archive bot archives based on the date the Q was posed, not the date of the last response, so it may archive something right after a poster asks you a follow-up Q, and you may feel the need to respond there. Another option is just to respond to their talk page, and leave the follow-up Q in the Ref Desk archive forever unanswered. Or, if the follow-up Q is worthy, it may justify a new posting on the Ref Desk on it's own. But, again, be sure to provide the Original Poster with a link, so they can find the new posting. StuRat (talk) 15:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know where you get the idea we shouldn't respond in archives that aren't transcluded. I know that's the general consensus with talk pages, but I've never seen anything suggesting the same of the Ref Desks. In fact, I seem to recall there used to be a notice somewhere to the exact opposite effect. It is, of course, more effective repost the question. And yes, the person should be given a link to the archive if they might not have seen the answer. 79.66.89.178 (talk) 13:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Identifying a song

There's a song I'm trying to identify, and all I can recall is the music video. It involved a male singer, and the centerpiece of the video was a large tree which a lot of people were climbing and sitting in. They were wearing old-timey clothes and may have represented the singer's family. Does this ring a bell with anyone? 129.174.184.73 (talk) 11:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading music videos in YouTube

Should I upload music videos in YouTube? David Pro (talk) 13:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube has a set of community guidelines located here. You can read them at your leisure. It should be noted that the likely important bit in those guidelines says, and I quote, "Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you are authorized to use. This means don't upload videos you didn't make, or use content in your videos that someone else owns the copyright to, such as music tracks, snippets of copyrighted programs, or videos made by other users, without necessary authorizations. Read our Copyright Tips for more information."

In other words, don't upload stuff where you didn't make every bit of it YOURSELF (the video, the music, everything)... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 14:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically though, YouTube seldom enforces those rules unless someone who owns the copyright on something they see on YouTube asks them to take it down, because you'll see TONS of music videos, movie and TV show clips and slideshows of copyrighted images over there roaming freely with no consequence. Only on a rare occasion might they act on their rules, such as this music video where they disabled the music, but the video itself is still a copyright violation since it's also property of the record label, so getting rid of only the music is a moot point. If someone tried uploading a screenshot of said video without a valid fair use rationale here, it would get deleted within a week, and no exceptions have been made for that. The difference between YouTube and Wikipedia is that Wikipedia walks the walk when it comes to the rules, but YouTube is nothing more than talk 90% of the time. Not that I'm saying you shouldn't listen to Jayron, but I doubt you'll have YouTube officials swooping down on you like a Wiki admin would. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 02:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While I totally respect copyright (I wouldn't like anyone breaking mine), it sometimes frustrates me to no end. It often happens to studios or production companies have no plans to release something on DVD or some other medium. By holding on to the copyright of this material, it slowly disappears to the point perfectly popular material is no longer available to anyone. I believe that copyright laws should be changed to reduce the time material can linger in limbo. These laws should only be applied to material that is publically available. But, of course, that's just my opinion. (If you ever make something, use a Creative Commons license. It makes things a lot easier and people like Scott Sigler show it's still possible to make money of it. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:44, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

January 30

Abbreviation for "in development" or "in the making"

I need an abbreviation for "in development", "in the making" or another phrase with a similar meaning. Does anyone know of any? It's for a list of media whose release dates are known to be in the future. Thanks! SharkD (talk) 02:27, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to use WIP for "work in progress". --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 04:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Duh, thanks! SharkD (talk) 05:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Animated movies

What animated movies(more geared towards adults) are to be realeased in the near future that incorporate the newer(or at least newly made popular) styles of animation seen in some recent movies e.g. 'Waltz with Bashir'? Thankyou 80.35.203.22 (talk) 15:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Linklater's Waking Life (2001) is an animated documentary, but Linklater's A Scanner Darkly (2006) is much better. Chris Landreth's Ryan (2004) uses "psychorealism" to tell how talented animator Ryan Larkin became a street panhandler. Also see Bob Sabiston's Grasshopper (2004) and anything by the Brothers Quay. Persepolis (2007) is based on the Marjane Satrapi graphic novel: http://www.sonyclassics.com/persepolis/ Mary and Max (2009): http://www.maryandmax.com/ Pepso2 (talk) 22:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ska tune in DFS advert

Resolved

– A great tune misused by the servants of Mammon

There's a DFS advert on British telly at the moment with a ska tune playing in the background - can anyone tell me what it's called? DuncanHill (talk) 20:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics or context would help. Is it third-wave ska? Two-tone ska? Etc. etc. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 20:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it's this one then the name is given as "Train to Skaville" by The Ethiopians. Ka renjc 20:25, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's the one! I knew I'd remember the name as soon as someone told me! Thanks :) DuncanHill (talk) 20:54, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome :) Ka renjc 12:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Documentary on chocolate

I'm having trouble verifying a fact in an article. Several unreliable and undated sources state that the BBC is working on a documentary about the chocolate industry and I've even seen an expert personally claim it in a recent video (2007-2008). Unfortunately, I can't find any sign of the thing. Can anyone verify one was broadcast or one is in the works? - Mgm|^(talk) 22:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to have been an episode of "Survivor's Guide" on BBC World about child labour in the Cameroon cocoa plantations. It's on youtube. DuncanHill (talk) 22:16, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, it's "Survivor's Guide to Growing Up" more info at [1]. DuncanHill (talk) 22:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At first glance, I'm not getting the confirmation this is what I'm looking for. In particular, I'm looking for one where the BBC had to shoot footage in Louis Barnett's chocolate factory. - Mgm|^(talk) 00:17, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would you help me identify this music?

If you click here [2] and then on the "Defense Leaders" slideshow, it plays a song that sounds similar to Aaron Copland's Fanfare for the Common Man.

Can you identify the music playing behind the "Defense Leaders" slideshow? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.16.41.245 (talk) 22:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copland later incorporated the Fanfare for the Common Man into the final movement of his Third Symphony. This piece might be that entire movement (I didn't listen to it long enough to hear if the Fanfare is played). Or it might be an entirely different piece, but clearly inspired by Copland. If that's the case, I have no idea who wrote it or what it's called. Best I can do at the mo. -- JackofOz (talk) 04:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've listened to the entire thing. It's definitely not Fanfare for the Common Man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.207.110 (talk) 18:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

January 31

name the novel (children/young adult book)

I read this great novel a couple of years back, and I want to read it again but I can't seem to remember its title, so please help me

It's a story about a young man named David (I think... i'm not too sure). It's set in modern times (as in the 21st century). david has recently moved to the city, and he is looking for a place to stay. He finds a great place, an inn owned by a single mother and a daughter (aged roughly 8-12). the mother is an artist, and she makes ceramic dragons in her own studio upstairs at the inn. the mother and the daughter make one for David as a welcoming gift. What he doesn't know (and this is the basic groundwork of the story) is that the tiny dragons are alive and sometimes come to life. He once tried to go into the studio but is shocked and burnt when he tries to turn the doorknob, as if it was heated from the inside. ...... hmmm I can't remember the rest, but david decides to write a short story as a thankyou gift to the young girl (daughter). It's about a squirrel who ventures to the city. My memory's quite blurry, but i think that the squirrel story actually comes true and one of the squirrels gets hurt and they call the wildlife care center. the female wildlife carer is named sophie (i think...), and david and sophie begin dating. Also, sometimes the mother tells a special bedtime story to her daughter about a dragon and a girl named (guineviere ?? im not sure) Later on, David begins to realize that his ceramic dragon may be alive. sometimes when david is writing and cannot think of anything, when he pictures the dragon in his mind, the dragon sometimes gives him a hint or a keyword to help him. But after a while, he begins to dislike the dragon: and the dragon, needing his master's love to survive, begins to die...

That's pretty much everything I could remember about the book. Could anyone help me remember the title of the book? Anything would be appreciated. Thanks. Johnnyboi7 (talk) 08:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be The Fire Within (novel). Ka renjc 12:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Electonicish Song

A song that sounds electronicish in canada that plays at boston pizza (in fortmcmurray) has the lyrics that goes something like

"I'm falling in love with you
I'm falling in love with you
Another night"

that's all I'm almost 100% sure of; I could be "Another night out" (regarding the last line). If it is any help, one of the songs that I asked when I mentioned it played around 4:00 pm and was electronic, that song was "The Fear" by Lily Allen.96.53.149.117 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 09:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC).[reply]

An Icelandic movie

I'm looking for an Icelandic movie, The movie is about an Japanese man that goes to Iceland in an vacation, He meet's an woman who gives him an Citroen DS, and the car get's stolen by Hitch Hikers, he gets lost and I don't remember any more,

All help will greatly appriacited 85.220.107.229 (talk) 12:02, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it Cold Fever (1994) (see IMDB here)? Ka renjc 12:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Thank you very much 85.220.107.229 (talk) 12:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name the series

It must have been made within the last 30 years. It was about a wizard with a silver pendulum and children. I believe the wizard lived in a secret room behind a fireplace in large house or castle. I can't really remember any details but I'm pretty sure it was British production (poss. BBC or ITV?). I'd appreciate any tips or help! Thanks. --217.227.86.219 (talk) 13:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Catweazle? Though I don't remember a pendulum, and it's a little more than 30 years old. Ka renjc 17:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That would be The Magician's House; it's a BBC production. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Dark Knight

In 'The Dark Knight', when the Joker is in the interrogation room with Batman, he says 'You let five people die. Then you let Dent take your place. Even to a guy like me that's cold.". I cannot for the life of me work out who these five people are; could anyone shed any light on the matter? Thanks. 92.5.29.100 (talk) 19:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Those would be the people Joker killed, as he promised he would, unless Batman revealed his identity. Namely, Commissioner Loeb, Judge Surrillo, Patrick Harvey and Richard Dent. I'm working partly from memory and partly from the internet here, so I'm not sure about the fifth -- my first thought was "it's Gordon", because at one point Gordon plays dead, but Gordon is actually present in the interrogation scene before he hands the Joker over to Batman, so it can't be him. The Joker might be referring to Dent or Rachel, because he knows one of them will be dead. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 17:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Law & Order: Criminal Intent

I have just started watching the old seasons and the old episodes of this show. For the first 4 or 5 seasons, it seems like the show had a great formula ... with the pairing of partners Goren and Eames. To me, it seemed that this was a very successful formula and that the show's viewing audience loved it. Then, all of the sudden -- out of the blue -- (in season 4 or 5 or so) ... they start featuring a second team of partners (Chris Noth and Annabelle Sciorra) ... such that episodes alternated between Goren/Eames and Noth/Sciorra. The effect being that the number of Goren/Eames episodes were cut in half, as they did not appear at all in the "alternate" weeks/episodes. So, I am just curious ... why on earth did the TV producers (or whoever) change what was such a successful formula? It makes no sense and I wonder if I am missing something. To be honest, whenever I tune into an episode, and I see that it is not a Goren/Eames episode, I feel let down and disappointed. I am sure I am not the only one who felt this way. Does anyone know what happened? Any insights? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:35, 31 January 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Other shows have rotating main characters, who seem to mysteriously disappear for a month at a time, then turn up again and carry on as if they'd never been away. The Bill is like this: Jack Meadows, Dale Smith, Gina Gold, Sam Nixon, Grace Dasari, Mickey Webb, John Heaton, Neil Manson and others all take their turns in disappearing from episodes, and then reappearing in later ones. -- JackofOz (talk) 01:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can think of three reasons:

1) They think viewers might be getting bored with the old cast, so they bring in new people, hoping they will go over big. Unfortunately, many shows jump the shark when they do this, such as when Oliver was added to the Brady Bunch or Scrappy Doo to Scooby Doo.

2) The original actors have scheduling issues with other jobs or their families, and can't work full-time any more. So, it's either provide them a way to work part-time, or let them go altogether.

3) They are trying to develop a spin-off, and want to build a following for the characters on this show before they send them out on their own (Law and Order: Meter Maids Gone Wild ?). StuRat (talk) 02:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find anything to verify it, but from what I remember, Vincent D'Onofrio was having health problems at one point, and he needed to take a break from the show for a while. AnyPerson (talk) 04:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, our article on D'Onofrio does mention that he was hospitalized for exhaustion while making the show. It includes a reference, though I didn't check it to see if it's still good. Dismas|^(talk) 05:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

February 1

NFL scheduling formula 1970-1975

Between the time of realignment, and the 1976 expansion, the NFL played a 14-game season, with 5 teams in one division and 4 in the others within the conferences. (3 divisions in each conference.)

I know the scheduling format post 1976, but I'm trying to find what they used before. It seems like it would have been very hard to do, though perhaps someone can figure it out here. Or, better yet, someone has a link stating what it was. I especially wonder how they decided on it when realignment occurred, though I guess they could have just done if in 1970 by 1969 standings.

Thanks.209.244.187.155 (talk) 00:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

www.pro-football-reference.com lists how the teams fared, and it looks like they played one team in each of the divisions in the other conference, 2 against eahc of their division foes, of course; hmmm, well, if this is for a fantasy league or something, I'd suggest you either just use the week to week schedules, inserting each person's team for a real team, or add or subtract two teams to make it loads easier. :-)Somebody or his brother (talk) 20:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Who's gonna win the Super Bowl tomorrow?

I figured you guys had some inside information, since you're running a multi-billion dollar enterprise and all.--Baseball and and and Popcorn Fanatic (talk) 02:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What makes you think we have any better insight into future events than anyone else? We don't. Sorry. -- JackofOz (talk) 02:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, let me look into my crystal ball...I see something shadowy...I think it'll be a football team! LOL. :-) We don't know any more than anyone else, I'm afraid. Hermione1980 02:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If Liverpool manage to beat Chelsea in the hours preceding (not likely because of Rafa starting Lucas!) Arizona will win (just because they're both red), and if on that Sunderland beat Newcastle before that, it's even more sure, as a red and white team. It's all related. If the soon to start ODI between Australia and New Zealand will have an impact is hard to say, but I think if Australia wins, that's a good sign for Pittsburgh, no matter what happens in the following football matches. You heard it here first! — CHAN DLER ^#10 — 04:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone really doubt that Pittsburgh will win? Adam Bishop (talk) 16:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps time to doubt now, if my prediction is correct. New Zealand won, Newcastle and Sunderland drew while Liverpool won... I think it's Arizona's day! :P — CHAN DLER ^#10 — 18:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The team with the most points. I am also certain that neither team will score below zero in points. Not even the 2008 Detroit Lions could manage that.Somebody or his brother (talk) 20:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BBFC Classification exemption of Help!

I got the film Help! for Christmas, and the box indicates that it is exempt from classification. Does anybody know why this might be? Dendodge Talk^Contribs 14:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BBFC ratings weren't introduced until 1984, according to the article, which is 19 years after Help was released. Adam Bishop (talk) 16:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not true at all. That would imply that no film or television programme released before 1984 would require a classification from the BBFC. That is patently not the case, as can be seen from the DVDs of many old films. Midnight Cowboy, for example, was released 15 years before 1984, and yet the DVD has an 18 certificate.

More likely, Help is classed as "music" by the BBFC. As the BBFC's own website says, "works which, taken as a whole, are concerned with sport, religion or music" are usually exempt. [3] Malcolm XIV (talk) 18:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Old Black & White Movie

What I remember:

-A beautiful lady marries a man.
-They live in a mansion she inherited from a lady she once knew.

-The lights in her room keep flickering; there are strange sounds from the attic.
-Paintings in the house move around. He accuses her of moving them.

-He tells her she's crazy.
-She starts to believe him.
-It turns out she's not crazy. Her husband is systematically driving her insane.

-He is a criminal, driving her crazy so she will not figure out what he's up to.
-He's looking for jewels in the attic
-A detective shows up and saves the day.

Anyone know the title? Thanks so much in advance. 128.239.177.28 (talk) 18:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Flickering[reply]

Sounds like either Gaslight (1940 film) or Gaslight (1944 film). DuncanHill (talk) 18:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! It's the one with Ingrid Bergman. 128.239.177.28 (talk) 23:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Flickering[reply]

Bugger off, you filthy swine. Bugger off!

A few years ago a barman at a pub here in the UK would, at kicking-out time, switch on all the lights, prop open the doors and play, very loudly, a song that started and finished "Bugger off!” It also included “you filthy swine”.

It was played half tongue-in-cheek to encourage people to go home. I think it was sung by an Irish person or group, and the barman was Irish (Dublin, I think).

Does anyone know the song, and where I can get hold of it? I have Googled extensively but can't find it.--78.144.254.132 (talk) 18:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for 'Bugger Off' on YouTube returns quite a few results of one song covered by multiple artists. Listened to a few, and it seems like one of the covers might be what you're looking for. --Onorem ♠Dil 19:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ummmm...yes. That's exactly it. Thanks Onorem! You know, I hadn't thought of searching YouTube directly. Thanks again.--78.144.254.132 (talk) 19:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First PG-13 rated film

Which was the first film to be rated PG-13 in the United States? David Pro (talk) 20:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Flamingo Kid -- kainaw ™ 20:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]