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Robin Williams unable to comment on his death?

This needs to be rewritten: "According to his publicist, Williams suffered from depression, though he would not confirm the reports that the death was by suicide." Maybe to something like this: "A publicist for Williams stated Robin suffered from depression, though he would not confirm the reports that the death was by suicide."128.84.127.81 (talk) 15:07, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be confused with Robbie Williams

That needs removed from the page, no one alive on planet Earth would confuse Robin for some unknown Australian.2605:A000:F881:2300:6017:571:C971:E110 (talk) 23:40, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oi, this Australian is offended. He's not one of us. He's a Pom! But I agree with your point, and have deleted the note. HiLo48 (talk) 01:52, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Death 2014

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/robin-williams-dies-suspected-suicide-724724 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinabrahms (talkcontribs) 22:58, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Press release: http://www.marinsheriff.org/uploads/854.pdf --Cawhee (talk) 23:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The release reads as follows:
August 11, 2014
Investigation into Death of Actor Robin Williams
PRESS CONFERENCE
A press conference will be held on August 12, 2014 at 11:00 am.
The press conference will be located in the Sheriff’s Office Assembly Room at 1600 Los
Gamos Drive Suite #200, San Rafael, CA 94903.

 — QuicksilverT @ 23:28, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is what I love about wikipedia. How the editors always rush to put up the death of a celebrity. I know it should be up-to-date and this isn't any place for rambling thoughts, but this is just sad. And makes it sadder that at the end of the day his death was noting more than a bunch of editors rushing together quickly to be the first and following editors to announce his death. Charlr6 (talk) 23:54, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How about the news services that report such things? Are you of the opinion that they should allow a respectful interval between someone's death and delivering their reports — perhaps a month or two? — QuicksilverT @ 00:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Replying with a comment like that to try and contradict me proves my point. I've struck a nerve. There is a difference from a website that only people on it can work on, and Wikipedia, where loads of editors all over the world will be 'fighting' to get their editorial mark put on. And then some editors who try to take over it, and keep it to how they want to, even though Wikipedia states there are no 'owners' of a page. It always happens. Charlr6 (talk) 00:18, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. I rushed here to make a minor edit, and as of this second, it's still there. I'm part of something I didn't care about yesterday! Strange phenomenon, but absolutely exists. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:38, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
Also, like it or not, when something like this happens Wikipedia has become the first place many people turn to (including some news media, and if that doesn't disturb you, it should). So I don't personally consider it a "race" by any means. It's a case of we need to have the information up as fast as possible. The problem, of course, is in the accuracy. And of course it's so easy for a false death report to sneak in. However, of course, in this case the original reports came from legitimate sources like the police themselves. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 13:30, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2014

Cause of death has not been identified as asphyxia, rather that is the preliminary suggestion

31.54.4.144 (talk) 23:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The lede does make this clear, though the infobox just states "asphyxia" as though it's been determined, without footnote. This should probably be changed. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 23:35, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the wording is accurate and verified around this now, no formal ruling, but someone at the CO's has suggested that as a likely cause. --j⚛e deckertalk 23:37, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Likely is not the same as is (as a fact). So until an official statement has been given by the authorities this should be left alone. Rbaleksandar (talk) 07:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2014

According to this pdf report (http://www.marinsheriff.org/uploads/854.pdf) by the Marin County Sheriff Office, some of the information about Robin's death is incorrect.

9-1-1 was dialed at 11:55am. The police and fire department arrived at 12pm. He was pronounced dead at 12:02pm. Nothingrandom (talk) 23:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So the error with the current text is that he was found dead on the 10th, not the 11th? Your link doesn't include that information, maybe wrong URL? --j⚛e deckertalk 23:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Mmmm, I misread. I'm closing this, as I expect whatever the original error is is in the past, but reopen it (answered=no) if you can tell me what specifically needs a change. --j⚛e deckertalk 23:48, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2014

Died 12th August 2014 81.159.92.163 (talk) 23:14, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed - article has been edited mentioning such. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 23:18, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2014

Link to official Marin County Sheriff Article on Robin William's death http://www.marinsheriff.org/uploads/854.pdf Ballance (talk) 23:18, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Adding the report is unnecessary, given that this is ample third party sources. Mike VTalk 23:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2014

Robin Williams died today due to suicide via asphyxiation. August 11th, 2014. 24.222.216.33 (talk) 23:19, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This has been added to the article as appropriate, given the confirmed information available at this point. Mike VTalk 23:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2014

Died 8-11-2014 2601:7:100:71C:7496:DAC9:45F:56EB (talk) 23:20, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Already in the article. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 23:25, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Odd wording of his death

The article states: "Williams was found unconscious at his residence and was pronounced dead at the scene." If he was already dead, he would have been found dead at the scene, not "unconscious". No? I assumed that "unconscious" implied being alive, yet not conscious. Thoughts? Thanks. Rest in Peace, Robin Williams. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:22, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It may be journalist spin; a competent law enforcement person would have used the word "unresponsive", instead of "unconscious". Unresponsive could mean unconscious or dead, without a person not trained in medicine or first aid having to make an inference. — QuicksilverT @ 23:34, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks. So, if journalists are essentially getting it "wrong", we don't have to repeat that error here. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's not journalists getting anything wrong. Unless a person is found in a state of extreme damage (i.e. beheaded) a person is not dead until someone of authority says they are dead because there have been many cases where someone appears to be dead but is not. Put another way, Williams was found legally unconscious. He was not legally dead until someone in authority pronounced him as such. Sometimes that happens on site as was the case here, and sometimes it doesn't occur until the person is taken to hospital where the determination is made, even though for all intents and purposes the person was already dead. This is what we as journalists are trained to write. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 13:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2014

Robin Williams passed away from a possible suicide on 11th August at 12.02PM. He was 63 years old. Robin Williams was dealing with severe depression of late.

Source: news.com.au

This has been added to the article as appropriate, given the confirmed information available at this point. Mike VTalk 23:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

203.94.160.158 (talk) 23:22, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2014

he was in FLUBBER too

2606:6000:FF40:8F00:181D:F0FD:CACA:DE3 (talk) 23:23, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done at the moment, his filmography is a complete list of the things he's been in, including that here would overwhelm the article--which is why we split off the filmography in the first place. Thanks for the suggestion! --j⚛e deckertalk 23:35, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Coroner hasn't ruled anything

Someone undid my change which should really say something like "The coroner's office have suggested that the cause of death was suicide" - bit premature and inappropriate to say they have ruled on something. Any admin want to deal? --nonsense ferret 23:27, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

checkY Now kindly resolved by @Joe Decker: --nonsense ferret 23:29, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that was very serious, ... comments about the manner in which someone died have serious implications, we cover this a bit at WP:BDP. Thanks for pointing out the issue. --j⚛e deckertalk 23:31, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Just a reminder that if his death is ruled a suicide, his name should be added to the category "Comedians who committed suicide".142.254.3.38 (talk) 03:50, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary full-protect

I apologize for having to shut down an article in the midst of breaking news, but on the advice of WMF tech staff I've implemented a temporary full-protection on this article to prevent the server cluster from breaking down under the load. Please direct technical questions on this to Jdforrester_(WMF) or Legoktm. Everyone, please feel free to request edits here; I'm told that batch editing, or even just slower editing, is just fine, we're just trying to prevent thousands of people from trying to make edits at the same time. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 23:29, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For clarity, confirming that this was a WMF request to avoid load. My thanks to Fluffernutter and the rest of the community group who gave their advice in response to my request, and in advance to you all for your understanding. We don't want the cluster to go down like it did when Michael Jackson died, for example. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 23:38, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Does it need to be full protection? I would presume that established editors can be trusted to edit the article. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 23:36, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you read Fluffy's comments, the problem is the edit-rate, not the edit themselves. It's a technical matter, not an issue of trusting others.--v/r - TP 23:38, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK, understood. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 23:55, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
JDF: Understood entirely. Any sense of how long? --j⚛e deckertalk 23:39, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Joe Decker: I sincerely hope that it's totally an over-reaction on my part and it will prove to be unnecessary; I'd much rather be proven a cautious fool than an optimistic one. (Right now the edit level rate has dropped down to a level that makes the servers a lot better placed, so it seems to be working.) In terms of timing, I picked 12 hours out of the air as that's normally the window over which big news spikes flatten off, but it may not be needed. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 23:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Just for the avoidance of doubt, I went with James's air-picked 12 hours when I protected, but I am fine with anyone lifting the protection as soon as the crisis is over and/or whatever magical load balancing is needed is done; no need to wait around asking me if changing the prot level is ok. (also, semi may need to be manually restored when my full expires; if I'm not around someone should be sure to keep an eye on that.) A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 23:51, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, and ... *headdesk*, I could have looked for myself, sorry about that. Anyway, glad to help out here, and that sounds like an entirely wise move AFAIC. Cheers, --j⚛e deckertalk 23:51, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. This is the first time in over nine years editing Wikipedia that I've seen an article fully protected for this reason. It suggests a possible enhancement to the protection mechanism, something like leaving an article semi-protected, but automatically throttling the rate at which edits can be saved. If the rate were limited to, say, one per minute, it would still allow work to proceed by registered editors, albeit with some frustration due to delays in saving the results. — QuicksilverT @ 00:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Hydrargyrum: That's an interesting idea. There was no similar suggestion in the current list of protection bugs and enhancements, so I've created one for this. Thanks! Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 08:14, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And I've now lifted the protection after staff (or the passage of time?) got the cluster back under control. The article is back to its previous level of semiprotection. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 00:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Fluffernutter: I've changed the semi protection to indefinite as that's what it was prior to your full protection (I'm assuming this is what you intended). Regards, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 12:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 11 August 2014

He died today (Aug. 11th, 2014) at age 63. 76.5.174.150 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Has not that material already been added? Dustin (talk) 23:37, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) In the article. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 23:38, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Recommend we delete (asphyxia) from the infobox. We generally don't list the 'cause' of death. GoodDay (talk) 23:41, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Wrong field anyway. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tiburon

The article states Tiburon is unincorporated, but Tiburon, California states that it is incorporated. Attys (talk) 23:40, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tiburon is incorporated. However, his home, with a Tiburon address, was outside the city limits. That's why he lived in unincorporated Tiburon. --Jayron32 23:41, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
But what is the relevance? Why does the status of the locality need to be mentioned in a paragraph about his death? Does it somehow make a difference? (I don't live in the US). Moriori (talk) 23:53, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's a more precise location. It's not really necessary any more than the city is necessary at all, but it's more accurate while still being concise. - Aoidh (talk) 23:55, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) It's relevant. People in the US commonly talk about an unincorporated area. It's really used almost as a synonym for "the outskirts of" or "just outside of", except the place name still applies. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 23:57, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Tks Aoidh and Mendaliv. As this is an international pedia, and unincorporated is a US centric term, perhaps it should be linked so those unfamiliar with the term can see what it means. Cheers. Moriori (talk) 00:21, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, the article should say the body was found at his home located outside Tiburon or so. The way it's written makes it sound as though Tiburon is unincorporated. Attys (talk) 00:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a suggested rewording ... "near Tibureon", happy to have that reverted if anyone has an issue with it, I think it's clearer. --j⚛e deckertalk 00:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Apparently, after Joe Decker made that edit, it was reverted back to "unincorporated Tiburon". I have revised it now to read "in an unincorporated area just outside Tiburon".[1] Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:31, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple sources including Marin Independent Journal and the NY Times all use "in Tiburon" to describe the location of RW's death. Why not in the infobox? Arbor to SJ (talk) 05:33, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The exact address is 98 St Thomas Way Tiburon, CA 94920 - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2CA8:2380:D4D:505B:2E04:B3DD (talk) 05:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify that for the non-U.S. readers: Addresses in the U.S. always have some town name, even if they aren't inside a municipality. (It's comparable to post towns in the UK.) --Closeapple (talk) 07:10, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request

What sad news. Could the "General" section of the References be removed? Two are dead links, the other two are a non-notable story about a hoaxer, and an unlinked Newsday article. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 23:45, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is actually quite a bit of linkrot in the refs. As to the general refs, it doesn't look like Harvard referencing is being used... perhaps those should just be moved to external links. I'm personally reticent to cut out the references unless it's clear there's no material relying on them. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 23:50, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved them here, I'm pretty sure at least three of these five aren't being used as sources, and a fourth doesn't provide enough information to be a usable reference, let's sort this out here and put back anything that needs putting back. --j⚛e deckertalk 00:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]


{{Refbegin}}
;General
* [http://franklovece.com/newsday2.html#robin "Road Trip with Robin"]{{dead link|date=October 2013}}
* [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4553999.stm "Robin Williams mimic ends 'fraud'"] ([[BBC News Online]])
* [http://www.askmen.com/gossip/robin-williams/robin-williams-impersonator-stopped.html "Robin Williams' impersonator stopped"] ([[AskMen.com]])
* [http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah1169.shtml "Robin Williams Enters Rehab"]{{dead link|date=October 2013}}, August 9, 2006 ([[Access Hollywood]])
* [[Frank Lovece|Lovece, Frank]], ''[[Newsday]]'' (April 27, 2006)
{{Refend}}

Found Dead?

I found an article that talks about his death. It's from an apparent asphyxiation according to the article; which translates to (in my mind) "he hung himself." -Poodle of Doom (talk) 00:01, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are other ways to asphyxiate, such as carbon monoxide. In any case, this isn't a space for speculation, the sources will have clearer answers in due time. --j⚛e deckertalk 00:08, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My money's on plastic bag. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:41, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
WP:NOTFORUM. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:44, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Earlier this evening, Dr. Drew pointed out that asphyxia can be caused by any number of things, and the authorities aren't giving out details yet. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots05:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bipolar disorder

Wasn't Williams diagnosed with bipolar disorder at some point? This is very relevant to his depression that led to his death.dnsla23 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnsla (talkcontribs) 00:14, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen some news reports with that diagnosis given -- but none were reputable enough to back it up with any further refs or dates or citations. It could be true -- or it could just be case of "the blind leading the blind" in journalism-land. Let's wait and see. 142.254.3.38 (talk) 03:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to find an acceptable one for you. I also have bipolar disorder, and am a member of alcoholics anonymous, so his story in this regard is very meaningful to me. Would be great for people to see this and get a better understanding of how these elements are interlinked. dnsla23 05:02, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

 Done "He was known to have bipolar disorder, depression and drug abuse problems, said Julie Cerel, a psychologist and board chair of American Association of Suicidology." Suicide a risk even for beloved characters like Williams USA Today Great article, with other mental health/suicide authorities cited - in Health section now. Much better BP source than existing pop culture site one (can we lose that now?), in terms of specificity, authoritative cites, and extremely helpful educational info on suicide & mental health, as brought to everyone's attention by Robin Williams' tragic death. A real public service piece, in addition to serving as authority for BP. Let's keep it. Paulscrawl (talk) 06:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC).[reply]

That really isn't much better. It's just more of the same hearsay with a name attached to it. "Was known," by whom? I have emailed Dr. Cerel to inquire about the basis for her claim. Vegemeister (talk) 07:50, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This Huffington Post article says, "Comedian Robin Williams once told an interviewer that he struggled with depression, but hadn't been diagnosed with either "clinical depression" or bipolar disorder." The NPR interview is from 2006. I can't listen to it, but if it sounds like he was answering seriously I think it should out weigh most of what I've seen on the other side, which is people who've never met him trying to diagnose him from a distance. 66.27.174.138 (talk) 15:20, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Dr. Cerel says the USA Today article's wording implies much greater confidence than what she actually told them. Furthermore, she also came by the claim on lists of celebrities with mental illness. With that in mind, I have removed the claim about bipolar disorder from this article. I strongly caution against adding it back unless you have a source with either an interview with Robin Williams in which he testifies to being diagnosed or self-diagnosed, or an interview with a psychologist who has personally diagnosed Mr. Williams in a professional context. Wikipedia should not be propagating celebrity gossip. If you must, please at least label it explicitly as rumor. Vegemeister (talk) 15:36, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Notable roles

We're going to need some sort of clear criteria for what makes a role notable, because the infobox gets changed on a regular basis. I'm thinking the following: A role is notable if:

  • It was his first role
  • It was his first starring role
  • He (or the film) has been nominated for or has won a major award

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jones 8842 (talkcontribs) 00:14, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Or, his "signature" role; a role he is widely known for. I think this criterion is more significant than the three you proposed. No? An example just off the top of my head: Fred Gwynne in the role of Herman Munster in The Munsters. That was probably not his first role; probably not his first starring role; and he probably didn't win any major awards for that. But, the role of "Herman Munster" certainly goes hand-in-hand with the actor Fred Gwynne. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:23, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If Fred had never been in The Munsters, he might have been most famous for Car 54 Where Are You? where he was only slightly less dense than Herman Munster. Kind of like with Bob Denver, whose Gilligan was his most famous role, but it was little more than Maynard G. Krebs lost at sea (in more ways than one). Robin did a lot of things, but Mork and Mindy is the one they always seem to go back to when talking about Robin. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots05:02, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Year of birth

Robin Williams was born in 1951. That's a fact, as he celebrated his 50th birthday in the summer of 2001 and said many times this year (for example, during his "working on material" shows in San Francisco this past may) that he's 55 and will turn 56 this july. IMDB as well as his fansite that's filled with official information has the correct date/year listed as well.- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jones 8842 (talkcontribs) 00:15, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article says 1951 at the moment. For what it's worth, IMDB is nto considered a reliable source here, it is often accurate, but WP:RS/IMDB has more info on this point. Best, --j⚛e deckertalk 00:20, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Joke theft?

it says nothing here about the apparent theft of jokes (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke_thievery) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jones 8842 (talkcontribs) 00:15, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Williams was a legend of stand-up comedy. There were many jokes about him stealing jokes, there were fewer genuine accusations - especially once he got past the heavier cocaine years. Brenner's was the only real specific charge I ever heard of it. Robin - like all great comedians - spent tons of time at comedy clubs. He heard millions of jokes, and probably borrowed bits from others without even realizing it - and just as many times, he probably made similar observations to other comedians, and people claimed he stole when he didn't (much like the story of Cook and CK). Even comics who really do get bent out of shape on the topic of joke-theft, know full well it happens unintentionally all the time, and it appears to happen a lot, when certain ideas are swimming around in the public's ether. That 4 different comedians around 2006, told a joke about the border wall in Mexico being built by illegal-immigrants, does not indicate joke theft. It indicates that around 2006, a lot of people were talking about immigration reform and that wall, and a bunch of comedians who tell topical jokes, had the same idea.
The rumors were never more than that. It makes sense to mention the rumors - founded or otherwise - in an article specifically about the topic of joke theft. They are part of stand-up legend, the same as the rumors about Milton Berle. But it makes less sense to mention them on an article about his life, when there is nothing but vague rumor. CleverTitania (talk) 02:00, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Show some respect, you posted this literally hours after his death. --92.232.49.38 (talk) 04:29, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dead?

I heard on reddit.com that he is dead, is this true? q.v. http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/827sm/i_heard_some_sad_news_on_talk_radio_robin/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jones 8842 (talkcontribs) 00:15, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is confirmed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solarra (talkcontribs) 00:18, 12 August 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

"Acclaimed films" vs. "financial successes"

Regarding the list of films in the first paragraph: weren't most of the "acclaimed films" also financial successes? And at least some of the financial successes were critically acclaimed (like Aladdin). Zagalejo^^^ 00:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 12 August 2014

Re: Recent passing of Robin Williams:

May wish to add a relevant New York Times reference =>

< ref name="NYT-20140811">Itzkoff, Dave; Fitzsimmons, Emma G. (August 11, 2014). "Robin Williams, Oscar-Winning Comedian, Dies at 63". New York Times. Retrieved August 11, 2014.</ref>

In any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 00:19, 12 August 2014 (UTC) Drbogdan (talk) 00:19, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The page's protection level and/or your user rights have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:29, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
 Done - Thank you for your comments - all ok afaik atm - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 00:52, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please correct Steve Martin's tweet?

It says "can not be stunned" when it should be "can not be more stunned" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.195.253.25 (talkcontribs) 00:47, 12 August 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

 Done WikiWinters (talk) 00:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2014

Please change Robin Williams' place of birth from Chicago, Illinois, to Scotland. He states Scotland as his place of birth in an interview aired on CBC in 1978. Link: http://www.cbc.ca/archives/categories/arts-entertainment/humour/laughs-from-the-past/robin-williams-freestyles-on-90-minutes-live.html. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonnert (talkcontribs) 00:41, 12 August 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. He was joking. It even says so on the page you cited, if you click on the "Did you know?" tab below the video. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:48, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2014

The Steve Martin tweet quote at the bottom of the article is wrong. I should read "I could not be more stunned by the loss of Robin Williams, mensch, great talent, acting partner, genuine soul." 76.125.104.228 (talk) 00:53, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It has been correct since your request. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:59, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2014

Please change Robin Williams' place of birth from Chicago, Illinois, to Scotland. He states Scotland as his place of birth in an interview aired on CBC in 1978. Link: http://www.cbc.ca/archives/categories/arts-entertainment/humour/laughs-from-the-past/robin-williams-freestyles-on-90-minutes-live.html.Bonnert (talk) 00:54, 12 August 2014 (UTC) Bonnert (talk) 00:54, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. He was joking. It even says so on the page you cited, if you click on the "Did you know?" tab below the video. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2014

Under "Stand Up Career" the following should be changed: Williams did a number of stand-up comedy tours, beginning in the early 1970s. A better text would read: "Williams began his comedy career doing stand-up appearances in small comedy clubs in California in the late 1970's, including many appearances in Los Angeles and San Francisco. On any given night, he might appear on the same stage as Jay Leno, Billy Crystal, Dana Carvey, Whoopi Goldberg and Paula Poundstone. He quickly began touring as a solo standup comedian to sellout crowds throughout California and beyond." 71.234.188.172 (talk) 01:00, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Also, this sounds like you might have taken it straight from a source - we're not allowed to do that as it is against Wikipedia's copyright rules. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
this is mentioned several times during his Inside The Actors Studio appearance. although that wording does sound lifted from publicity material. - Alkivar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.231.221.224 (talk) 02:08, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Check Robin Williams date of birth - the year should be 1952. 174.49.234.40 (talk) 02:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sources vary. FWIW, every news report I've heard has said he died at the age of 63. --Ebyabe talk - Repel All Boarders02:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done Per Ebyabe and footnote 7, which indicate that there is a conflict in the sources. Unless there's convincing evidence that one DOB is "more correct" than another, the status quo should stand. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 02:19, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

RV

how can you missed 'RV' (2006). Robin Williams best movie ever in recent history. Please edit the page to include 'RV'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amalpeiris (talkcontribs) 03:30, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You may have found it excellent, but the critics and public didn't, I'm afraid. Check the article on the film itself. --j⚛e deckertalk 04:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apparent suicide

The LA Times reports that the sheriff's office says that it appears to be a suicide. LA Times. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I saw that report as well. It might be best not to include it In the article yet as most of the out her sources seem to say it was not suicide.--BarsofGold (talk) 04:01, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Yes, while the LA times source is not specifically cited in the article, several other sources are which say the same thing. Which is why the article ALSO mentions that the Sheriff's office has speculated that it may be a suicide. Read the "Death" section, where it states "The Coroner Division of Marin County suspects the death to be suicide by asphyxia, pending investigation" and is cited to two sources. I'm not sure why we would need to say it twice. --Jayron32 04:02, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, no real need to say it twice, except it is from two sources, and one says "suspects" and the other says "apparent". To me, apparent is a stronger statement than suspect. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 04:45, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Should William's Main Page ITN headline read "...commits suicide at the age of 63." ? Tandrum (talk) 08:34, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Misinformed information

Under death content.


Current: A month earlier, Williams had self-admitted himself into Hazeldon Addiction Treatment Center in Lindstrom, Michigan for continued sobriety related to his alcoholism.

Correction: A month earlier, Williams had self-admitted himself into Hazeldon Addiction Treatment Center in Lindstrom, Minnesota for continued sobriety related to his alcoholism.

Source: http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/01/robin-williams-actor-rehab-photo-rehab-drugs-alcohol/

Reason: The person who submitted the content mistyped the state. Their original source even provides the proper state. Jlamanna83 (talk) 05:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Please correct the reference to the Hazeldon Addiction Center which is located in Center City, Minnesota (near Lindstrom, Minnesota). Hazeldon does not have a center in Michigan. 2601:2:6280:470:D9E7:6FD4:70A6:96F0 (talk) 05:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's been fixed. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots05:14, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bipolar disorder?

The statement "Williams had bipolar disorder" has been added to the article based on a single source, Communities Digital News. I know nothing about the reputation of this source (not an issue on it's own), but all that the source says about this is "It has been reported through several sites that Williams suffered from bipolar disorder for years".

For a biography of a living person (which also covers the recently deceased), I'm not convinced this is enough. I'm tempted to remove the claim. HiLo48 (talk) 05:15, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All evening in the news reports they were talking about severe depression. I don't recall anything said about bipolar. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots05:18, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I often wondered (or thought) that he was hyperactive. I don't know of any source on that. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:42, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea about Robin Williams, but you might be interested to know that bipolar disorder is often associated with ADHD (which I suspect you are referring to), and to my knowledge, especially the rapid-cycle subtypes. I have encountered the idea that rapid cycling might not strictly be bipolar disorder at all, but a symptom of ADHD. See also Creativity and mental illness. Creative people suspected to have been bipolar could equally have been affected by ADHD. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 11:02, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Highly credible source attesting to his BP added. BTW, didn't you all see the Talk section above titled Bipolar disorder? Take your meds ;) Paulscrawl (talk) 06:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hazelden reference

Hazelden has a location in Lindstrom, Minnesota not Michigan and is spelled with an "e" instead of an "o". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.142.33 (talk) 05:19, 12 August 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

Already fixed. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots05:20, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2014

First line of Television Career reads as "as the alien Mork in a 1978 episode of the hit TV series Happy Days[2] after impressing the producer"

need to replace "Happy Days[2]" with "Mork & Mindy" as the tv show is incorrect.


Thanks R3PL1C4N7 (talk) 05:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, he actually appeared on Happy Days before Mork and Mindy. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:45, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Add exact address

It was hard to find the address of the house and I was only able to find it on Google maps after an aerial photo was shown on the news. Should this be in the story? 95 St Thomas Way Belvedere Tiburon, CA 94920 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.91054,-122.47388,3a,75y,106.23h,42.23t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sLB-r9FkUmERTDQx81EdWqw!2e0 http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/95-Saint-Thomas-Way-Tiburon-CA-94920/19260698_zpid/ http://heavy.com/news/2014/08/robin-williams-suicide-scene-pics-photos/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30a:2ca8:2380:d4d:505b:2e04:b3dd (talk) 06:00, 12 August 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

Definitely not. --John (talk) 06:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit for academy award 4 times not 3 2600:1010:B01F:9F63:2C9D:6C67:9906:7028 (talk) 06:18, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The news has been saying 3. What are the 4? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots06:24, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 Birth date for Mr. Williams should be July 12, not 21st.  

Dm712 (talk) 06:29, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What's your source for that? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots06:36, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

add him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Comedians_who_committed_suicide — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.177.162.97 (talk) 07:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Magioladitis (talk) 08:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2014

Adding his role in 'Flubber' -to the section Filmography.

In 1997, Williams played the leading role of Professor Philip Brainard in the Disney film, "Flubber", alongside Marcia Gay Harden and Christopher Mcdonald.

Zararah (talk) 09:45, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is included at Robin Williams filmography instead of here as the list is quite large. Jarkeld (talk) 10:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

216.204.177.220 (talk) 11:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC)--216.204.177.220 (talk) 11:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC) <Suggstion> - not sure how to do this - but - under the Addition heading - might want to add that on July 1st Robin was admitted to the Hazledon Center in Missouri. See this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/01/robin-williams-rehab_n_5548396.html Thank you. 216.204.177.220 (talk) 11:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Last marriage shouldn't have an end date

I tried changing this, but it immediately got changed back, so maybe I can get somebody with more patience to agree with me?

Right now, it says that the marriage ended in 2014 because of his death. That's redundant, and Template:Marriage also states that the 'end' parameter should contain the "Date the marriage was dissolved or the spouse of the article's subject died." Not the date the subject died...

I also tried to back up my case by looking through List of Presidents of the United States and seeing what's been done for marriages for their articles, but it's quite inconsistent. Any thoughts? EditorInTheRye (talk) 13:02, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Every reference I've ever seen to marriage on Wikipedia uses the date of death of one partner to signify the end date of the marriage. Of course one can choose to consider themselves to still be married to the deceased as many do (my dad still considers himself married to my mom who passed away last year), but legally speaking I believe the marriage ends either when one partner is officially declared dead (which can be an issue in the case of a spouse being a missing person) or when a death certificate is issued. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 14:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Illness and death

No doubt the illness and death section will continually change but the sentence "According to his publicist, Williams suffered from depression, though he would not confirm the reports that the death was by suicide" seems to put the carthorse before the horse. Perhaps the first half is fine, but the second half says "that the death" way before his death is otherwise mentioned. 194.176.105.154 (talk) 13:38, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Billy Crystal, long time friend and Comic Relief co-host, responded to the news of Williams's death via twitter writing "No words" (Aug, 11th, 10:40 EST). — Preceding unsigned comment added by JrCrosth (talkcontribs) 15:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree we should probably include some more of these reactions, I think we should go with the numerous secondary sources that are popping up discussing them rather than individual tweets. See, for instance, this People blog post. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 15:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I opt that a new article for Reactions to the death of Robin Williams should be created, where most of the tributes can be moved to. And here's another: Terry Gilliam, who directed Williams twice (in The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988) and The Fisher King (1991), and who'd also initially wanted him as Cavaldi in his Brothers Grimm (2005) until rejections by the Weinsteins), posted this in tribute on his Facebook page:

Robin Williams, the most astonishingly funny, brilliant, profound and silly miracle of mind and spirit, has left the planet. He was a giant heart, a fireball friend, a wondrous gift from the gods. Now the selfish bastards have taken him back. Fuck 'em!

— Terry Gilliam August 12, 2014

--217.225.210.31 (talk) 16:58, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]