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Internet Archive

Thanks for the notice, it's resolved. Is there some way to monitor for errors with Lua? There are a lot of possibles with this script and difficult to check them all, though I believe everything is OK. BTW I adapted some of your code/ideas from Module:AFC_submission_catcheck. On removing false positives when getting Category data. Thank you. -- GreenC 00:32, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Green Cardamom: I suggest that you pull information like that from Wikidata rather than attempting to parse a wiki page. Also, [1] will give you a (not very pretty) list of pages with script errors, newest first. Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:47, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata is a good idea as first step, then fallback to Category. I looked at Wikibase Client and various example code and can't figure out how to open a database entity that isn't the current page ie. how to determine the ID for a page (label). For example Douglas Adams has an ID of 'Q42', but what if all we know is the label ('Douglas Adams'), how to do a mw.wikibase.getEntityObject? -- GreenC 16:02, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Green Cardamom: For this purpose, why do you need to fetch for any page other than the current one? Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:07, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So it can be used and demonstrated on other pages, like the documentation page or talk pages e.g.:
Works by or about Charles Dickens at the Internet Archive
{{Internet Archive author|name=Charles Dickens}}
..includes birth/death dates in the URL. It would be confusing to have different IA search results for Charles Dickens depending what page the template is hosted. It's not critical but would be good to have. I guess you're saying there is no support for it. What I can do then is try wikibase first and if no dates then getContent() as backup. GetContent() is working ok, just a question of extra load to pull (once) and search (twice) the entire article. -- GreenC 04:38, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Green Cardamom: At some point, we will be able to pull from other articles. I think it's a bad idea to use getContent at all though, even in the interim. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:18, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Is it safe to assume all dates on Wikidata are in Georgian format eg. Qin Shi Huang is born 258 BC, but is AD/BC used for all cultures? Still would like a backup method if Wikidata fails to provide the info, it won't be a common occurrence. I will (rightly?) assume that Wikidata info is as current as Wikipedia Category data, and if Wikidata doesn't return a PropertyValue it doesn't exist as a Wikipedia Category either. But if it fails to open mw.wikibase.getEntityObject() then will assume it's a non-mainspace article and try the alt method of getContent(). It will be very few, mostly just on the documentation page, testcases page, this talk page etc.. here's the sandbox code, two functions near the bottom, bdDate() for Wikidata method and bdDateAlt() for getContent method. -- GreenC 18:40, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for catching that. It affected living people with no death info on Wikidata ('P570'). I should have thought of it, but it didn't show up on the test cases page for the same reason above (unable to get Wikidata except on the actual page). I'll remember to test on real pages in addition. -- GreenC 04:09, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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08:54, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Module:RfD

when this module is substituted, it leaves a {{{|safesubst:}}} behind. is this necessary? the reason I ask that the WP:WikiProject Check Wikipedia has a list for cleaning up "programming elements" which have been included in articles (e.g., when someone substitutes a template that shouldn't be substituted). a key signature of this sort of thing is three braces. to work-around the fact that this module is adding {{{|safesubst:}}}, they just made this change to explicitly ignore pages with {{{|safesubst:}}}. can we just fix the module instead? Frietjes (talk) 20:59, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Frietjes: I could do <includeonly>safesubst:</includeonly> instead of {{{|safesubst:}}}, but "safesubst:" itself is necessary somehow. Would that option be better? Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:52, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
yes, that would be an improvement! Frietjes (talk) 21:53, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
or, on second thought, let's get some more feedback first ... Frietjes (talk) 21:55, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Frietjes: Since it's equivalent, but better than what we have now, I'll do it for now, and we can always change it again later. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:03, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
okay. my concern was if the checkwiki project is looking for <includeonly>...</includeonly> as well, but it looks like this isn't the case (yet). Frietjes (talk) 22:07, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Frietjes: Anyway, the module's fixed now, so all new nominations will be right, and I've fixed a few of the existing ones (see my latest contributions). As for the rest, either wait for all of the RfDs already open today to be closed (which will take a few weeks), or a BRFA could be filed to use AWB to automatically fix all the rest. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:25, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The checkwiki lists are done in the first week of each month, using the database dump, so it should be mostly resolved by the time the lists are generated. thank you again. Frietjes (talk) 22:28, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Proposal to update R2 criterion for "Special talk:" redirects

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13:48, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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Adminship?

Seeing that you would like to be an admin (userbox) I think that you should give it a try. WP:RfA has been dead lately and we need a new candidate! --AmaryllisGardener talk 02:20, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@AmaryllisGardener: You're not the first one to ask this. I was a little nervous then, but I guess I will give it a go now. I talked with Mr. Stradivarius about this on IRC a while back, and he offered to nominate me. I've pinged him above to let him know. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:26, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, excellent news. :) I'll write you up a nom when I have a spare moment. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:36, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'd come out of my wiki break to be a co-nom; I was going to wait a while to ask Jackmcbarn about an RFA, but since you guys beat me to it, if you could let me know where the nomination is posted, I'd be happy to be a co-nom. Steel1943 (talk) 04:49, 22 October 2014 (UTC) [reply]
...So, Jackmcbarn, whaddya say? Sounds like you already have a few editors willing to nominate you, so... Sounds promising? :) Steel1943 (talk) 04:51, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Scratch that. As I stated in one of my above statements, I made mention that I was "going to wait", and that's exactly what I'm going to do. At this time, I have some concerns that would make me a "strong neutral". I feel that there are some aspects that may need to be worked out first, but I'm not going to post them here, unless requested. Basically, I don't want my concerns to derail an RFA for Jackmcbarn. I really think that Jackmcbarn will be an incredible administrator, but some concerns that I have about recent edits prevents me from wanting to nominate at this time. Steel1943 (talk) 05:07, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Steel1943: I think it would be a good idea to post your concerns here. You would have to post them at the RfA anyway, and if they are legitimate someone would probably post them at the RfA even if you didn't. The more data we have now, the better the decisions we can make. We should wait for Jackmcbarn to reply here, first, though, as he might prefer to deal with this by email or on IRC. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:31, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Mr. Stradivarius: @Steel1943: I'd like any concerns to be raised here. Jackmcbarn (talk) 11:57, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Jackmcbarn, I was just looking through your recent edits, and ... I honestly cannot remember what my concerns were. Whatever they were, they may have been valid at one point, but if anything, looking at your even-more recent edits have resolved my concerns ... that I cannot remember. In fact, me just recently looking at other edits of yours in other administration-areas which I had no idea of your track record just enforced my original thought that nominating you is the correct thing to do in my mind. So ... count me in as a co-nom, again. Steel1943 (talk) 14:22, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Mr. Stradivarius, Steel1943, and AmaryllisGardener: Yes, I'm ready then. Jackmcbarn (talk) 14:30, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Mr. Stradivarius: Would you mind sending me a note or Ping when the RFA draft is created? If you could, I should be able to respond within 24 hours of the note/Ping. (My Wikipedia access is a bit limited right now, thus the reason why my user pages state that I'm on a "WikiBreak".) Steel1943 (talk) 16:35, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, no problem. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 20:37, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jack, sorry to take so long with this - this is just to let you know that I haven't forgotten. I've finished writing up all my notes for the nomination now, but it's a bit late here to put it all into prose. I'll get the finished text written tomorrow. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I completely overlooked the response above. Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 20:37, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Mr. Stradivarius: Can I be a co-nom too? --AmaryllisGardener talk 17:22, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jack, in case you haven't seen or it failed to ping you, Strad has typed it up here, now you just need to formally accept it, and I guess we're off! Also notifying Steel1943 about this, because from what I see you haven't been pinged yet. Regards, --AmaryllisGardener talk 00:33, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@AmaryllisGardener: Thanks. I had no idea that was there. Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:56, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Jackmcbarn, AmaryllisGardener and Mr. Stradivarius, I shall add my co-nomination statement there shortly. Steel1943 (talk) 02:07, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well Jackmcbarn, I have finished my co-nomination statement and posted it. At this point, unless anyone else wants to join in the nomination circle, it's just waiting for you to activate it. I'm wishing you the best on this, and wishing you a successful, and hopefully stress-free, RFA week! :) Steel1943 (talk) 02:32, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Jackmcbarn, Steel1943, and AmaryllisGardener: Well, it looks like you all found the nomination page ok! I hadn't told anyone about it because I hadn't finished the nomination (I still might tweak it some more), but that didn't seem to stop any of you. :) I'll have another look through it over the next 30 mins or so, and report back when I'm done. After that, it looks like we will be all set to go. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:40, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've finished going through the nomination now. Jack, feel free to transclude it on WP:RFA whenever you're ready. (And don't forget to subst the date template!) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:15, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yes, and you still need to add your signature to show that you accept the nominations (although I'm sure you knew that already). — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:18, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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05:20, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
For your hard work fixing MediaWiki bugs, including this major issue with pending changes and your responsiveness at WT:FILTER. You're the best! — MusikAnimal talk 23:05, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
PS – looking forward to supporting you on your upcoming RfA! — MusikAnimal talk 23:07, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@MusikAnimal: Yeah, more and more things just keep on happening that prove that this RFA makes tons of sense! (In other words, you beat me to the "thanks"!) Steel1943 (talk) 23:55, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Seconded. If you go to RFA Jackmcbarn, I will definitely support you because of your invaluable template and MediaWiki skills. Epicgenius (talk) 01:32, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of tea for you!

Five days left. I think we should both drink some tea. AmaryllisGardener talk 19:55, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck with the rest of your Request for Adminship

Good luck with the rest of your Request for Adminship !

I know this can be a stressful time, just wanted to stop by and wish you well. :)

I'm sure you'll do fine, and perhaps it's a most interesting omen that your WP:RfA ends on the Fifth of November.

Good luck,

— Cirt (talk) 03:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Accidental thanks

... caused by poor page design on mobile and fat finger. PamD 06:06, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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17:28, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

thank you

Thank you for answering my questions. I am very wary of your answers but remain supportive of your RFA. I have no desire to oppose it so I have kept the support vote.

Try to be wise and caring as an administrator. EatingGlassIsBad (talk) 16:40, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your request for adminship

Hi Jackmcbarn, I have closed your request for adminship as successful. Congratulations on the success and for your place on WP:RFX100. I should mention, however, that while your request was a pass, it would still be wise to take into consideration the concerns raised by the opposition. As always, the administrators' reading list is worth a read and the new admin school is most certainly available if you feel that you might require some practice with the tools in a safe environment prior to applying them elsewhere. All being said and done, good luck with your adminship! Acalamari 20:07, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations Jackmcbarn! You might have received some opposition, but the support !votes nearly doubled what I got at my RfA. Popular guy you are! By the way, sorry for the mishap in removing/adding the mass message sender right, I guess that's not included in the admin bundle. As you might know, neither is edit filter manager, which you can just add yourself, should you want to. Anyways, congrats again. Look forward to working with you! — MusikAnimal talk 20:15, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@MusikAnimal: Actually, that is part of the admin bundle. I've re-removed it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks everyone! Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My most sincere congratulations, administrator Jackmcbarn. I'm glad you survived the opposition. :) --AmaryllisGardener talk 21:09, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well done, have a t-shirt... :-) Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:30, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations. You've got your t-shirt, so get to work! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:33, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I never doubted you'd pass Jack, well done!  Philg88 ♦talk 22:05, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Congratulations on becoming an admin!

Have a beer on the house! :P — Cirt (talk) 22:17, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! Do a good job! Be nice! EatingGlassIsBad (talk) 16:08, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for sorting out that blocking error. Looks like you just became an admin, so congrats on that!--Yaksar (let's chat) 00:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Yaksar

Good job on User:Yaksar, was about to unblock him/her. Sinebot not fast enough to separate wheat from chaff, apparently. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:11, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and congrats and welcome to the most maligned group on the web. LOL :-) Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:19, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS Account Request

I confirm that I have requested an account on the UTRS tool. Jackmcbarn (talk)

I have activated your account on UTRS. Thanks for volunteering.--v/r - TP 05:31, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@TParis: Thanks! By the way, are there instructions for the UTRS interface anywhere? I can't find any. Jackmcbarn (talk) 13:35, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, unfortunately there is not. The closest thing we have is this: File:Unblock_Ticket_Request_System_-_Privacy_Overview.pdf. It covers the workflow and some of the features. But otherwise, the system is mostly what you make of it. I can meet you on IRC and walk you through handling a ticket, though, if you like.--v/r - TP 16:16, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fassbender (company)

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You delated my page Fassbender (company) claiming Copyright breach. This copyright was my own and the website is my own! Please can you return thIS page?

Eeggman (talk) 09:39, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Eeggman: If you own the copyright, you can follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials to allow it to be used on Wikipedia. There's another issue, however: If that's your company, per our guidelines at WP:PSCOI, you really shouldn't write an article about it. You should use the WP:AFC process instead. Jackmcbarn (talk) 13:33, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulatory note

Even though I opposed your candidacy, due to your lack of work in the mainspace, I wanted to congratulate you on passing your RFA. Please take it slow with the more disruptive tools in your new kit, particularly the block and delete buttons. Those are the tools most associated with damage to the mainspace and its contributors, and I wish more administrators would think 2 or 3 times before using them. Wishing you the best as a new administrator, LHMask me a question 18:29, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You do need experience using the block button, though. Perhaps Lithistman volunteers? lol I kid I kid.--v/r - TP 19:15, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I recommend blocking Jimbo. That couldn't possibly end poorly, right? In all seriousness, though, the block button is best used primarily (if not only) on blatant vandals and users whose conduct is so detrimental to the building of the encyclopedia that there removal from the community is the only remaining solution. Short, punitive blocks never accomplish anything but acrimony. LHMask me a question 19:22, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your blocks on the IPs at Georgia Highlands College ‎

Thanks for the blocks, but I think we'll still need to protect it. Another IP, from a similar range, has made the identical bogus insertion and immediate undo as has been going on for years. Maybe a few range blocks would be possible. Congrats on the new adminship. Meters (talk) 22:45, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Meters: The whole /20 appears to belong to Southern Polytechnic State University. I've blocked one more /24 for now. If it acts up one more time, let me know and I'll see if it's feasible to block the entire /20. I'd rather not use protection here, since this is such a long-term issue that we'd have to basically lock good anons out forever if we went that route. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:04, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's a strange one. Years of seemingly pointless edits and instant reversions. I couldn't believe the edit history once I started looking at it. You're right, protection might end up having to be permanent, particularly since we already tried it for 3 months. I suppose we can just live with it since the editor never leaves the faulty info up for more than a minute. Thanks for looking at it again. 02:12, 7 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meters (talk • contribs) 02:12, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
It would be nice if instead of blocking an ip/range you could set them "probationary" for a set time. Then you could add to the protection level one that only protects against probationary users/ips. This would allow us to handle situations like this with a minimal of collateral damage. In addition to allowing other anons to edit the article it would also allow people from the range block to edit other articles.
New features are slow and hard to come by though so it will likely remain a dream. Chillum 02:15, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It sounds like you want Pending Changes that can be applied to users instead of pages. I agree this would be a good idea, but I'm not sure if it's feasible, or if the community would go for it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:17, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I considered asking for pending changes protection on this article. Since the editor always reverts himself no-one else would see the bogus info, but the darn article would be showing up with flagged edits forever since undoing an edit does not reset the pending edits flag. If it did, this would be great solution. Meters (talk) 02:24, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats

On adminship! :D -Fimatic (talk | contribs) 02:17, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well done from me too Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!} (Whisper...) 11:14, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Recognition of user being a positive impact force in community. Looking over the types of contributions and care admin Jackmcbarn has given so often sets him apart.:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikkoBot (talk • contribs) 03:07, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Up Next

can I have my article undeleted I haven't finished putting everything :/ there's a lot reference and background of what to put in it. Please let me finish and than you can check it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Golden kingg (talk • contribs) 04:01, 7 November 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

@Golden kingg: I restored it to Draft:Up Next. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:06, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A Revanth

As well as the two you blocked, there is also Revanth Arappali (talk · contribs). My finger is hovering over the block button, but I thought I would wait and see whether he takes in what I wrote at User talk:Revanth Arappali#Wikipedia is not for writing about yourself. I think he means no harm, he's another of the innumerable newbies who think this is another social-networking site and doesn't understand the difference between user pages and articles. Whether he is likely to make a useful contribution is another matter.

Congratulations on your new mop, by the way! JohnCD (talk) 12:17, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

RfD for I have no ideay

I have no idea why I why I was replying back to you. HisashiyarouinHisashiyarouinHisashiyarouinHisashiyarouinHisashiyarouinHisashiyarouinHisashiyarouinHisashiyarouinHisashiyarouinHisa

S. Si Trew (talk) 12:53, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IN case of any doubt, I am not Hisashi Yarouin, a very fine editor. Simply no idea. Si Trew (talk) 12:59, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What are you talking about? Jackmcbarn (talk) 13:00, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I told you, I have no idea where this came from. Forget it; I didn't want anyone to think that Hisashi-san was I or whatever that's all. Si Trew (talk) 00:34, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Too much admin going on at RfD

Not you, but three at RfD have been closed in the last few days in what I regard as blatantly WP:IDONTLIKEIT. I have taken bold and removed one closure, since it was in no way discussed. I'll do so again with another. It's getting out of hand if people just close discussions down. Please tell me, for example, how Two Steps From Hell got closed with no discussion? It was a redirect, I read the article to seem like what the caps should be, WP:NCCAPS has guidance, it is a blatant close in less than one day without regard to any other good-faith editor. (RfD says they are listed "for about a week"). Si Trew (talk) 00:32, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you telling me this? Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:33, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Because it comes up on my new-fangled "you have messages" thingy that Wikipedia has. I was kinda trying to be polite to reply. Si Trew (talk) 00:37, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I really have no idea what you're talking about. Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:39, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pharma companies in chennai

Thanks for speedy deleting Pharmaceutical companies in bangalore. Pharma companies in chennai is another copyvio article that I just nominated for speedy deletion, if you'd like to take a look. NorthAmerica1000 02:03, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Softer block removed from User:Runwarwick

Greetings! You had blocked Runwarwick (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) with a soft block earlier this week because of the username. Since that appeared to be the only reason for the block, I have unblocked the user to allow the change.

I thought this was uncontroversial enough to do it without checking with you, but I wanted to make sure you knew that I'd done it. —C.Fred (talk) 14:23, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fine with me. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:20, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Disney Channel (Latin America)

Hello Jackmcbarn, you could revert this edition in the article Disney Channel (Latin America)? The picture put back several times the IP (File:Disney Channel 2014 logo.png) can only be used on the article Disney Channel. (see Wikipedia:Non-free content review/Archive 57#File:Disney Channel 2014 logo.png) Thanks! --Mega-buses (discusión / Talk) 14:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Mega-buses: Looking more closely, I've decided to unprotect the page. If that IP starts edit-warring again, you'd be better off at WP:ANEW than asking for protection. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:33, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, no problem. Thank you and good luck!! --Mega-buses (discusión / Talk) 13:15, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I almost forgot. Congratulations on becoming an administrator! --Mega-buses (discusión / Talk) 13:28, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Appeal 12294

Hey - so regarding UTRS, the rules of WP:INVOLVED still apply. So you really shouldn't handle an unblock request that you were the blocking admin for. That said, the action you took would've been the exact same no matter which admin handled it, so it's not a big deal at all. But in the future, someone else usually comes by within 24 hours.--v/r - TP 19:44, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@TParis: I'm under the impression that blocking a vandal counts as interacting with them "purely in an administrative role", which WP:INVOLVED says doesn't count. Am I interpreting that incorrectly? Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:18, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're interpreting WP:INVOLVED correctly, but there is another policy that says you shouldn't decline unblock requests for users you have blocked: WP:BLOCK#Block reviews. TParis was probably thinking of that one. — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ♪ talk ♪ 06:36, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I didn't know of that. Thanks Mr. Stradivarius, and sorry for any inconvenience TParis. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:18, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My 2 cents

Please don't take this as criticism, but I thought it might help to offer my perspective. When an editor asks for a page to be unsalted, two things come to mind: the initial reason and age of the protection, and who is the editor asking. Generally, anyone who has autoreviewer rights should (in my opinion) instantly have any 6 year old protected page handed to them. They have already earned the right to be trusted to create articles without them being reviewed. If they fail, AFD works just fine. I see myself as a public servant for people creating and improving articles, so I say yes to any reasonable request unless I can see (and explain) a specific threat in doing so. Collectively, they are the boss, I'm just the janitor with the big ring of keys. Refusing was within policy, I'm not questioning that, I'm just saying that when a guy with a couple dozen FAs and 176k edits asks you to unsalt a page, it's ok to just unprotect the article, as the odds of it being abused are virtually zero, and doing so is the most efficient means to creating articles. Cirt is probably a better judge of what is and isn't a properly sourced article than most admin, honestly. The trust you invest in our editors tends to pay dividends, too. Dennis - 2¢ 14:36, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I'll take this into consideration in the future. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:18, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:August Mentzl Tenement in Bydgoszcz Deleted?

Hello, I was working today on a draft article about Poland and you deleted it an hour ago. On what ground? What was my mistake in the process? I understood draft pages were made for that (starting and improving articles). As a beginner, I find it pretty discouraging. Pending you answer, wikibenchris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikibenchris (talk • contribs) 17:59, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikibenchris: I didn't delete any of your drafts. I did delete Tenement August Mentzl in Bydgoszcz, which you created as a real article in mainspace, not a draft. I notice that you already started a new draft for it at Draft:August Mentzl Tenement in Bydgoszcz. Given that, and the fact that what was deleted was identical to pl:Kamienica Augusta Mentzla w Bydgoszczy, I think you could just copy it from there again into your actual draft rather than restoring the old revisions. Is that okay? Jackmcbarn (talk) 05:05, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Deletion Feedback

Your feedback in this discussion would be greatly appreciated. Warren Cassell, Jr. is up for deletion. Can you share your thoughts in the discussion? Caribbeanbio (talk) 00:05, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tombstoning

It would be good to resolve this. The Draft:Tombstoning is ready to be published, according to Fiddle Faddle as soon as the RfD is closed. the only gotcha is to not delete the existing talk page, as it has procedurally important history. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:43, 11 November 2014 (UTC).

@Rich Farmbrough: I'd rather let someone else close the discussion. Once that's done, if there's anything else to take care of, I will. Jackmcbarn (talk) 05:08, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'd close it myself if I wasn't one of the few that commentated there. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:24, 11 November 2014 (UTC).
Moving will delete the existing talk page, but it is trivial to undelete the old version, it essentially becomes a history merge. Only takes a couple of clicks. Since there no edits on the draft talk, thus no interleaving edits, it is as easy a histmerge as you could hope for. No need to merge histories of the article itself, as it was essentially deleted via AFD. I've never closed an RFD or I would myself, but at work and short on time to take a crash course, or fix it if I do it wrong. Dennis - 2¢ 14:03, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

citation request

Hi Jack - still learning about how things work on Wiki - but I wonder if you would be kind enough to check the write up about HP products where I've made a lot of changes to printers - and cite my website http://www.hpplotter.co.uk/upgrade-path-tool against HP Designjet Printers - this is basically a tool I built on my website to allow people to find out the date their printer was first manufactured, date it was made EOL, and the printer that replaced it. I've made a request on the talk page but no-one seems to be getting back to me...are these things instant-ish like in a day or two or can it take months normally for people to respond? I hope you think it is a useful link - best regards PlotterFairy

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