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    January 14

    What happens to USER Infoboxes when we die?

    Hi folks, I am researching technology and generational succession and wondering how we modify Wikiepedia editor user infoboxes in the event of passing?

    Is there a duplicate template for every userbox that can be applied to indicate the Wikipedia user has desceased?

    I don't really speak with a lot of Wikipedians because of the often confusing politics that have evolved over the years, but what are we, as a community, doing about acknowledging the passing of deceased Wikipedians with respect to their digital estate and tributes to it?

    Are we building an encyclopedia of collections for all time that is going to post-date our individual expiry dates?

    Help me discover where we are going with this.

    THE QUESTION I AM ASKING THEREFORE IS: What part of WIkipedia, is there a subsection or another Project, that deals with establishing how memorials and associated tributes with respect to estates will be handled?

    If we want this thing to live forever, do we not have to make changes to some of the infoboxes in the least? How is Admin/editor death handled on WIkipedia?

    Wikiworld2 (talk) 00:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    It varies a lot, I guess depending upon how well known and respected they were. See for example User:Wadewitz. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:46, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    There is a Category:Deceased Wikipedians; a template, {{Deceased Wikipedian}}; and a wikiproject, WP:RIP. Their userpages are preserved in their memory. Their edits and contributions to the project live on in the attribution on the history pages of the articles they contributed to. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:25, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Someone can mark a user page as deceased, but in most cases we never know why someone stopped editing. There is little practical difference between a dead editor and an editor who simply hasn't logged in for ten years (and might return tomorrow). It is generally considered socially-inappropriate to alter someone else's user page, unless there is an extremely good reason to do so. For now there is an unstated assumption that the user page will probably remain in place long as Wikipedia exists.
    Under the copyright terms we use, the record of their edits is legally required to be preserved in connection to any page they have edited. As long as a page they contributed to is still in use, their username will stand in the page's edit history as an implicit memorial to the work they have contributed. Alsee (talk) 00:39, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Followup regarding inheritance of a digital estate, we do not have any mechanism or recognition of "inheritance" of a user account. Wikipedia accounts are only allowed to be used by a single individual - we would activate a software block against anyone discovered to be using an "inherited" user account. From a legal standpoint heirs do inherit the user's copyrights. Anyone who contributes here does so under the terms of an irrevocable copyright license. The heirs could in theory sue someone who copied the user's work in violation of the copyright terms we user here, but they cannot prevent the continued use of that copyrighted-content within the terms of the license. Alsee (talk) 01:22, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Denver Pyle

    "Denver Pilye, who Stared as Uncle Jesse in the Dukes of Hazard was in an episode of the Waltons (Season 1)". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.36.254.250 (talk) 01:33, 14 January 2016

    The Denver Pyle article already mentions that he was on The Waltons. If I understand what you're saying, it was only one episode, so I doubt it needs further embellishment other than the brief mention it has now. Dismas|(talk) 18:08, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft:Paul Brubaker : Request for review

    Since this Help Desk is thought to be the unfriendly but civil and accurate place for questions, as opposed to the Teahouse, I will ask if some other editor will review Draft:Paul Brubaker. It does appear to be an autobiography. It does appear to be one of the best autobiographies that I have seen in Wikipedia (which is not to say much). I may be biased, because I don’t like autobiographies. Can someone here who is a reviewer review this autobiography? It seems ot be well-sourced. Is it neutral? (I am not neutral toward autobiographies, so I need the community to help.

    There's a lot of things wrong with the draft that could easily be fixed, e.g. far too much blue text, use of direct external links, a strange heading for the references section. It is not neutral, it concentrates on listing the subject's achievements and awards. This could also be fixed. But there's little point in working on it unless the subject's notability can be established. The most convincing evidence of notability I can see there is a Washington Post article, which quotes him rather than saying anything about him. Maproom (talk) 09:46, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Ross Turnbull (rugby union)

    My husband is Ross Vincent Turnbull and his date of birth has been wrongly recorded as born on 6 January........this is incorrect his date of birth is 13 November 1941.

    I would appreciate this being rectified at your earliest convenience.

    Kind Regards

    Caroline Turnbull — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.163.138.22 (talk) 05:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    My condolences on your loss. Do you have a reliable source for his birthday? Usually something published would do. Unfortunately, your personal knowledge is not considered such, per WP:RS. One of the two source in the article does list the January 6 date. Rwessel (talk) 06:13, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I found the following sources for Ross Vincent Turnbull's date of birth being 13 November 1941:
    These are, however, obituaries and were most likely produced by the family and so I can't be sure whether they'd be seen as reliable sources. I am a new, relatively inexperienced editor and so I will leave it to another, more experienced user to decide whether these sources are reliable enough for inclusion. If they are, I will be happy to correct the article for you. --  Adam talk - contribs   20:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Ms. Turnbull, condolences for your loss. I should point out that the article at http://en.espn.co.uk/australia/rugby/player/7450.html has Mr. Turnbull's birth date as 6 January 1941. This was likely the source of the birth date used in the Wikipedia article. Perhaps you should contact ESPN UK and have them correct the information? I note they have contact info at: http://en.espn.co.uk/espn/sport/page/1363.html Chrisw80 (talk) 22:29, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I have copied the above discussion to Talk:Ross_Turnbull_(rugby_union)#Possibly_incorrect_birthdate. I have removed all birthdate information from the article for the time being.
    Caroline Turnbull, to ensure that an incorrect date doesn't get added back into the article the best thing you can do is click this link and put in any additional published sources which show the correct birth date. If you also type {{Help me}} that will attract the attention of an editor to review the situation, answer questions, or make appropriate edits to the article. Alsee (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Prince George of Cambridge

    Ref number 48 on this page is from a book and I have not done it correctly. Please assist - thanks so much - and please leave in the quote101.182.146.167 (talk) 05:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    What exactly is the problem? Rwessel (talk) 06:20, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for getting back to me - ref 48 on the above page seems to be incorrectly done: as a book - shouldn't there be a long line of numbers/code as well? Cheers 101.182.146.167 (talk) 06:25, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Dear Madam/Sir, I have added the ISBN. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 06:30, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I post this announcement?

    Horses on WP oh my!
    This is a physics article on Wikipedia. To keep from angering (or confusing) the editors, it was placed there only briefly in order to publish it in Wikiversity:First Journal of Science

    According to this survey, the prime disincentive against making scholarly contributions to Wikipedia is that it will not advance careers. Wikiversity:First Journal of Science will be a peer-reviewed journal that should alleviate this problem for recent college graduates who are not expected to have published in the established scholarly journals.

    The word "First" in the title is intended to suggest that we need more journals like this. The Wikiversity:First Journal of Science was patterned after the Wikiversity Journal of Medicine, but will have a somewhat more informal flavor, consistent with this new journal's intent to focus on teaching at the undergraduate college level. Wikiversity:First Journal of Science will attribute with bylines that list usernames only, in contrast with the use of real names by the Wikiversity Journal of Medicine

    Another unique feature of Wikiversity:First Journal of Science is that edited versions of Wikipedia articles are welcome, and are presented as Wikipedia articles on the Wikiversity journal via permalinks to the history of Wikipedia articles. This is currently accomplished in a rather awkward fashion, by moving the Wikipedia article into the editor's user space, and after proper attribution, deleting all that extraneous prose that Wikipedia articles tend to acquire. An example of this shown in one of the three "pseudo-articles" that were used to create a mockup version. Of the three "pseudo-articles" in this mockup, I consider only one to be suitable for publication. It is Wikipedia's Introduction to quantum mechanics. Note how the logo was inserted into the "pseudo-accepted" version without permission of the article's current editors. In other words, all of Wikipedia's 5 million articles are candidates for publication in this journal, and in a manner of speaking, have already effectively submitted their manuscripts to Wikiversity:First Journal of Science for review----Guy vandegrift (talk) 09:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    If you are saying you would like a Wikipedia article on "Wikiversity:First Journal of Science," the first step would be to collect significant coverage of the journal in independent reliable sources like newspapers, magazines, and books. If such coverage does not exist, an article is not possible. —teb728 t c 10:45, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Teb728: I agree a WP article on this journal would fall far short of notability--Guy vandegrift (talk) 13:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Guy vandegrift: Do you mean in regards to a mass message letting people know it exists? Or a watchlist notice? -- samtar whisper 10:54, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Samtar: Yes, some sort of message to invite contributions would be a good idea. What do you suggest?--Guy vandegrift (talk) 13:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC) ... I just posted on Portal_talk:Physics#Invitation_to_participate_in_an_online_Journal. Should I go to the other Portals and post there?--Guy vandegrift (talk) 17:01, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Guy vandegrift: "Portal talk" pages are for discussing improvements to the corresponding portals. You'd do better to post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics or other WikiProject talk pages if you want your message to reach these editors. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I am thoroughly confused. The title of this thread suggests it is about how to make an announcement; but the following three paragraphs appear to be the content of the announcement. And they make little sense. You quote "the prime disincentive against making scholarly contributions to Wikipedia is that it will not advance careers" – but nor do most of the other things I do with my time, I don't feel it as a disincentive. Then you present a new online journal as a solution to this problem – I don't see how providing an alternative site where people can create articles will encourage scholarly contributions to Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 11:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Maproom: I guess we are all confused. It was only as I was creating the mockup did I realize that my journal could essentially accept and publish any article already on WP. The ramifications of that need to be carefully thought out. --Guy vandegrift (talk) 13:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Infinite Speed F1 Team

    Infinite Speed is a team of four schoolkids who are making a miniature F1 car to race against others.

    Sam Woodhouse is the Team Manager, Chewie (Jessica WinWin) is the Design Engineer, Evan Wilikie is the Manufacturer and Mya Singh is the Marketing Manager

    File:Infinite Speed
    Logo

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinite Speed (talk • contribs) 11:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for sharing the information about your project. At this stage, you should probably publicise your team on Facebook and similar social media, but if your project gets written about in several reliable sources in the future, then we might have an article about you. Dbfirs 12:07, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Citing search results pages (website seems to use PHP)

    What's the best way to cite a page of search results on a website which does not appear to give a unique URL for each page of results?

    The Isle of Wight Family History Society website lets you query its database of churches and chapels. For an article I'm planning, I want to search each place name using the "Search location:" drop-down and "Search" button, then cite info from the records it brings back. Unfortunately each results page has the same static URL, http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/churches/church_etc_res.php. Even worse, if you search for "All locations", each subsection has a unique URL (e.g. http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/churches/church_etc_res.php#Arreton) but this doesn't work if you copy and paste it into a new browser window.

    One workaround I thought of: cite the main search page and stick some text at the end of the citation template such as Select "Arreton" from the "Search location:" box. Would that be acceptable in a citation? Or even better, is there a way of finding a unique URL for each search?

    (Regarding reliability of this website ... I think it's OK because it lists many of its sources, I have cross-referenced with other reliable sources, and there is editorial oversight. I won't be relying on it as my only source for anything though.)

    Hope that question makes sense! Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    The at parameter at Template:Cite web#In-source locations can be used to give search directions like:
    "Search the IWFHS Churches, Chapels and Cemeteries". Isle of Wight Family History Society. Search location: Arreton.
    PrimeHunter (talk) 13:08, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    How do search results satisfy WP:V without violating WP:NOR at the same time? --Redrose64 (talk) 13:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Can you clarify, in respect of this particular website? This would involve querying a fixed dataset. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:11, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    If somebody reading the article wants to verify a reference, they do not expect, upon clicking a link, to get a message like " Results of search for Churches, Chapels and Cemeteries etc. in There are no entries found, sorry." If you (as the person adding the ref) have searched that website, and what you want to ref is St George's Church, Arreton, pick whichever one of the URLs on the right (I count five) actually supports the facts that you are describing - it might be Church history. Put that in the ref, and others will then be able to click on the link and access exactly the same source, without guessing, without having to mess around with search criteria. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    (Sorry, I had an edit conflict – apologies for the indenting) OK, fair point. I would be citing other sources anyway in all cases, so hopefully I may not need to use the website at all. (I am at the very early stages of research, and the article in question isn't likely to be ready until late this year at the earliest, so I should have plenty of time to find other sources.) If anybody can find a way to get a unique URL, I would be interested to find out anyway, as it would be useful to know even if I don't use it in this case. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 16:29, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Church history at Internet Archive
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 16:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    creating a page in wikipedia

    to create an page in wikipedia firstly I have to log in there then I have to go to the sandbox then I can start my work... but my question is when I start writting & finish it shows my username/sandbox what I don't want... I want there to show only my page name... how to do this?????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanija22 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:MOVE the page. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:33, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm going to disagree with Redrose64, or at least expand on his answer. I don't think that it would be wise to move the page to article space until the content has been provided with references to independent published reliable sources. I would advise that when you think it is ready you shouldn't move it yourself but should submit it for review through the WP:AFC process. To enable that, I have added a template to your sandbox draft. I'll also put a few useful links on your user talk page (including WP:Your first article). --David Biddulph (talk) 15:56, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    The sandbox is question is a fork of Rajshahi College, anyway, and is largely identical, text-wise. It would have been easier to make the edits directly to the article instead of copying it all to your sandbox unless your plan to so totally rewrite the article that the one currently in mainspace is in shadow of your version. In any event, it can't be moved on top of the page in mainspace, anyhow. - Purplewowies (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no key

    My first article is tagged opening tag is malformed and has a bad name. How can I correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PixtonDesignGroup (talk • contribs) 16:06, 14 January 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

    • It appears that you have been blocked for having a promotional username, so please come back and create an appropraite username following the policies at WP:UPOL and then repost your requestion. It should be an easy fix anyone here can help you with. I see one page you have in draft space, but no current errors for references, so I'm not sure if your problem was with that page, or another page that was already deleted for being promotional. Tiggerjay (talk) 16:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      The error, a stray <ref /> tag, was cured by another editor in this edit. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Reference help requested.

    Thanks, 54.163.9.61 (talk) 20:34, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Sarah McCullough

    Him who is Sarah McCullough in the real? I only know that she voiced Musa and Stormy. but who she is?--Maxie1hoi (talk) 21:07, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Maxie1hoi: Have you tried the Entertainment section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 Dismas|(talk) 21:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Linking from English language page to non-English page

    Hello. My question is how one would go about linking from an English language page to a page in another language. So if the regular wikipedia link is formatted like this, beIN Sports, bookended by two brackets, is it possible to link directly to the same page in another language? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThirstCurfew (talk • contribs) 22:00, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    You can link to say the French version like this fr:beIN Sports by typing [[:fr:beIN Sports]]. Maproom (talk) 22:03, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    More at H:ILL. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:22, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    47.54.102.103 (talk) 00:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    If you don't want "fr:" to display, just use the pipe trick, i.e. [[:fr:beIN Sports|beIN Sports]]. Nyttend (talk) 04:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    That, true, Nyttend, but I would always advise against putting a link to a foreign-language article without saying so, because if the reader cannot read the other language it may not be any use to them. My recommendation would always be to use the template {{ill}}, which displays a link to the English article, but if that is red (the article doesn't exist) adds a second link to the foreign-language article. --ColinFine (talk) 12:41, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    January 15

    Change name of Spoto Wines

    Would you be able to help me change the name of the Spoto Wines page to Spoto Family Wines (add family)? The company recently added "family" to their label and I would like the article updated. Thank you! Lexi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atspoto (talk • contribs) 00:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello Lexi. Did they just change the label, or the name of the business? I ask because all the references I can find still refer to it as "Spoto Wines". Even their own Web site starts out with "Welcome to Spoto Wines! Spoto Wines is a small family winery..." Similarly, all the press I could find refers to "Spoto Wines". Is there any reference to support the name change?--Gronk Oz (talk) 01:16, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    It's very new, so I'm trying to get the owner to change it on their website. As for now, the only support to prove the name change is the image I uploaded to the page. This change occurred probably six months ago, but has been taking longer to change every mention of the winery. There is also a trademark pending on the name. I will work on getting the owner to change his website, then perhaps you can change the name. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atspoto (talk • contribs) 01:48, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Lexi, I guess once the trademark becomes official would be the logical time to make the change.--Gronk Oz (talk) 01:57, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree. It's not the "official name" that we use for the article, it's the name that most published sources use. Maproom (talk) 08:51, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Maproom is right: See the naming convention guideline at WP:ENGLISH. —teb728 t c 09:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Also supporting that approach is Wikipedia:Moving a page#Reasons for moving a page, which says one reason to move a page is "The subject of the article has changed its name and the new name has come into majority use." In the meantime, would it be appropriate for me to create a redirect from "Sporto Family Wines"?--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gronk Oz: This edit didn't notify. You need to add the links and sign in the same edit. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:30, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for letting me know about that, Redrose64 - that's a subtlety I have never come across. While on the topic, I have never understood the difference between {{u}}, {{ping}}, {{reply}} etc - people seem to use them interchangeably in discussions to notify the other person. Is there an explanation of the difference somewhere?--Gronk Oz (talk) 16:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    {{u}} is a redirect to {{user link}} (as are some others). It takes one or two parameters: the login name of the person you are referring to, and an optional alias. It makes a link to that user page, so {{u|Redrose64}} is identical in action to [[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]].
    There's no difference at all between {{ping}} and {{reply}}, both are redirects to {{reply to}} (as are several others). It takes one to seven parameters, being the login names of up to seven people you're addressing. {{reply to}}, when given one name, is essentially the same as {{user link}} when given one name, but with a couple of extra characters (an at sign and a colon) and an enclosing <span>...</span> element, so {{reply|Redrose64}} is identical in action to <span class="template-ping">@[[:User:Redrose64|Redrose64]]:</span>.
    What it comes down to is this: they all make links to user pages, and a link to a user page is an essential requirement of the notifications system. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:55, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Removing Deletion flag

    My article was suggested for deletion due to the fact it had no sources. I have now added sources how do I delete the tag for deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Worobey (talk • contribs) 01:20, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    What has changed since the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tim_Fugger to make the subject of the article any more notable? If nothing, then there isn't anything that can be done to prevent the article being deleted. --ℕ ℱ 02:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    what is wikipedia?

    ≈ surekha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surekha surekha (talk • contribs) 09:49, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia is an on-line encyclopaedia, created and edited by volunteers from all over the world. You can click on those two words in blue to get more information. Rojomoke (talk) 10:21, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    More at WP:What is Wikipedia? --Redrose64 (talk) 11:21, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Nightwing.UK.

    Hi,just reading an article on Nightwing uk and see you do not mention the Original Guitarist(Eric Percival)from 1978 to 1982 and later in 2006 on the last album 8472.Maybe an oversight on your behalf.I feel if you write something it should be written properly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.141.78 (talk) 12:15, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, IP user. Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit. If you find a way that an article can be improved, you are welcome to edit the article; or if you are not confident in doing that, making a suggestion on the article's associated talk page is the best place. Ideally, all information in a Wikipedia article should be supported by a citation to a published source, so if you can give that, so much the better. --ColinFine (talk) 12:44, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    solutions to the problems of marriage/concepts of marriage

    1. basis of marriage

    A.what is marriage

    At the creation of human beings, it was only man was first created.later no ,God saw that it was not the man to be living alone and wished he created a helpmate for him.He did make a helpmate for the man and she was called woman because she had been out of man. Thus, woman was created to assist man in all his endeavors. The promise of God as to bring up children, and so on is secondary issue.

    b.THE ERRONEOUS MOTIVES TO MARRIAGE

    ( a) Many people do marry so as ton see someone to be preparing food for them. therefore, such treat their wives as a slaves. This is very wrong motive to marriage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightofgod23 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Humans were created by evolution. Anyway, this help desk is for questions related to editing and using Wikipedia. Though general knowledge questions are welcome at the reference desk, I think you would need to refine any question in the same vein if you wanted to ask it there.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, is there a way to block a page from being edited?

    what can we do if statements of fact are being edited on a page we have an interest in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbrownnason (talk • contribs) 13:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I've replied two sections below this one since I saw that one first... Dismas|(talk) 13:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Taharrush gamea

    Hi, the Swedish page on Taharrush gamea is not correct. It has different arabic words and is more biased than the English.

    A user called Yger is constantly erasing a more correct version and fuller (based upon the English) is taken away immediately.

    Now, he has edited more than 200.000 articles priory and I none so how should one therefore edit for example the incorrect naming of the subject in arabic from the start? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabehdin (talk • contribs) 13:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    This is the English Wikipedia. We have no control over the Swedish Wikipedia. See sv:Wikipedia:Begäran om åtgärder.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:28, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, is there a way to block a page from being edited?

    Dbrownnason (talk) 13:11, 15 January 2016 (UTC)what can we do if statements of fact are being changed on a page we have an interest in?[reply]

    (edit conflict) Hi, Dbrownnason. Pages on Wikipedia can only be protected. Protection is only performed on articles that require it in order to prevent harm to the article; it's not done as a precautionary measure. The typical reasons are persistent vandalism, or to stop conduct disputes and edit wars by multiple users so that they'll seek consensus. You can request protection by clicking here. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:18, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Dbrownnason: You could request page protection at WP:RFPP. Though because you keep using the word "we", I'm guessing you want to read the conflict of interest guideline first. Followed by Wikipedia:Username policy to see that more than one person should not be using the same account to edit. Dismas|(talk) 13:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    After looking into your edits, I see you might be referring to this edit. You replaced information which had a reference with information that lacked a reference. If information is to remain, a reliable source must be provided. Dismas|(talk) 13:21, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Problems with my article

    Hello,

    I have recently posted a Wikipedia entry on Sadie Morgan (Sadie Morgan).

    Despite many attempts to ensure it is written in the NPOV, Wikipedia still insists it is written in a way that promotes or advertises the subject.

    Please could you provide some guidance as to what specifically is triggers this problem.

    Many thanks.

    Ann — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.133.18.170 (talk) 14:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Ann. That tag was placed there by NeemNarduni2 when the article was quite new, and there have been many changes since then. So it may be worth contacting him/her at User Talk:NeemNarduni2 to ask whether the tag still applies, and if so then what are some specific examples. BTW, I not that the photo used in the article has been nominated for deletion; it is a copyrighted image and cannot be used here.--Gronk Oz (talk) 16:58, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Quick note: @62.133.18.170: Please review WP:OWN, just so you're aware. Cheers, Mlpearc (open channel) 22:15, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    A free photo to Maria Farantouri

    Does anyone know where we can get an applicable and free picture of Maria Farantouri to Wikimedia Commons? The photo of the article is quite bad and old. Or is there any free photos over there? Many thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lentokenttä (talk • contribs) 15:23, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    There only appears to be one picture of her in Commons, Lentokenttä, which is presumably the one you are talking about, though it is not used in the en.Wikipedia article and never has been as far as I can see. It is usually difficult to find free photos of current people, unless you are able and willing to go and take one yourself, or get somebody else to. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 18:12, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Uploading pictures

    Wikipedia asks many questions during picture upload. I closed the page instead of uploading. Is there any shortcut way, where I can directly upload picture and add details later on. As we can create redirect and edit the redirect into an article? --Marvel Hero (talk) 17:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Marvel Hero: Not as far as I know. Lots of people omit to answer the questions - which are not optional - thus the system forces one to answer them.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:43, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Those questions are for a legal purpose, Marvel Hero:without them, Wikipedia does not know whether it is legal to have the image there at all. So I guess the implementors of that portion wanted to make sure that the questions would always be asked. --ColinFine (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    One reason the questions need to be answered is due to ....and add details later on never happens. Mlpearc (open channel) 18:19, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    (e/c) Hi Marvel Hero. Yes you can easily bypass the guided upload wizard (both here and at the Commons). But you really should only do so if you are quite clear on the templates, information and copyright licensing (or fair use scheme) you will be placing. When you are at the upload page, click on "Plain form for local uploads" under the Wikipedia section of the "Uploading media files" box in the center of the page.

    You shouldn't add the "details later on", but right in the upload. It's often good to first find a local file (i.e. not a Wikimedia Commons file) you think is very similar in terms of its licensing to the one you are going to be uploading. Once you find one, click edit on that file page and copy its details, then paste into the form presented to you, tailor for your purposes, and upload away.

    I do not know what you are asking when you say: "As we can create redirect and edit the redirect into an article". An uploaded image will not normally be redirected in any way. It will be placed using normal image syntax, or without that, in an infobox field. By the way who is "we"? Wikipedia accounts may not be shared by a group, but must represent an individual. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:23, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I think Marvel Hero is talking about a rather unorthodox way of creating articles, by first creating a redirect, and then editing it, Fuhghettaboutit. I don't know why they should want to do that. And I took "we" as "we Wikipedia editors", not as a multiple user of an account. --ColinFine (talk) 22:59, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    dubious about B. Alijani

    Hello,

    This page appeared in recent deaths on wikidata. While trying to check data about birth and death, I found that reference n°2 is highly dubious to me. It is in arabic, which could be alright, but seems to be an ad for blue jeans, which is strange for a scientist :(

    Could someone please check this page for reliability. Not even sure the person exists. Could not find his/her name anywhere…

    Also the text looks like a bad machine translation :( --Hsarrazin (talk on wd) 22:51, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect the references are in Farsi, not Arabic. I have supplied his given name, with a citation (so the blue jeans ad is now no. 3). I suspect the article is valid, but the machine translation is horrible. Maproom (talk) 23:15, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. Is he really dead in 2014 ? (cat. only) --Hsarrazin (talk on wd) 01:07, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Damian Aspinall

    Please check ref. number 9 on the above page - it is form an old newspaper (verifiable) but in a new digital format. Please fix up how to this ref. correctly. Thanks 139.216.210.155 (talk) 23:46, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

     Done I've tweaked up the ref a bit. I removed the quote as it's clear in the linked article. Could be put back if another editor so desires. Eagleash (talk) 23:54, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    January 16

    Clock in personal toolbar

    What happened to the clock gadget? It's not appeared on any page in the last couple of days. Figuring that I might have changed something by accident that affected it, I just now checked my gadgets, and "Add a clock in the personal toolbar that displays the current time in UTC (which also provides a link to purge the current page)" was still checked. I've never had any .js or .css pages, except for User:Nyttend/monobook.js (which hasn't been edited since September), and I'm using the same skin as I have since August 2006. Nyttend (talk) 02:34, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    My clock is still there, on the far upper right, just right of "Log out". StuRat (talk) 02:43, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Working here, maybe a browser issue. Mlpearc (open channel) 03:00, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Nyttend: I take it you use MonoBook? @StuRat and Mlpearc: Which skin are you using? --Redrose64 (talk) 09:42, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I use Monobook and my clock is unaffected.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:03, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    It works for me in all desktop skins. Try to disable the gadget, save, and enable it again. Do other gadgets work? Does it work in any of the below? (Minerva doesn't have gadgets) PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Fuhghettaboutit, Redrose64, and Nyttend: I use Vector, and as of this post, the clock is working. Mlpearc (open channel) 18:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    The clock started working again late yesterday, and it's there now. I've not knowingly changed anything with my settings or my browser. Bizarre...Thanks for the help! Nyttend (talk) 20:20, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    St. Louis Rams: admin attn needed

    Why is the St. Louis Rams article still known as this? A press conference wasn't enough to warrant a name change? As a prominent user said on the Rams talk page, WP looks stupid not having the name changed by now with all the red tape it put up. Buffaboy talk 03:36, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    St. Louis Rams has been moved to Los Angeles Rams after discussion at Talk:Los Angeles Rams#Requested move 13 January 2016. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:58, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Damian Aspinall

    I have done ref. 2 but it is all wrong. Please leave in the quote but fix it up. The ref is from an obituary. I am sorry. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 04:20, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

     Done You were not far off with your citation, it just needed a little fixing. You should be able to see what I changed if you look at the page history, to help you learn how to better use the citation templates. You can find full documentation for the particular template I used there at Template:Cite news, giving detailed descriptions of the parameters, etc. {{Cite book}} was not the correct choice for citing a newspaper article. I only cleaned up the 2 references in the "Early life" section, I didn't review the remainder of the article. --Murph9000 (talk) 05:01, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    How to create an account on wikipedia

    a have tried a lot of times but it can't be a sucesss — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.253.107.8 (talk) 08:08, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    You should be able to just create an account. If that is failing for you, or you are having difficulty with the process, please provide some specific details. --Murph9000 (talk) 08:19, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Page size

    How can I check the article's page size in bytes along with its prose size? Thanks Ayub407talk 14:50, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Page length (in bytes) in available through the "Page information" link under "Tools" in the left hand menu bar. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:58, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank :) Ayub407talk 15:12, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

    I am trying to edit a page and I cannot tell if it has worked or if I need to do something different. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dogsincars7 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, it looks like you were trying to remove sourced content (please don't do that) but what happened instead was that you removed part of the reference for the information, which broke the code. I've restored it. You can ask me on my page if you have further problems with editing the page. Bishonen | talk 16:18, 16 January 2016 (UTC).[reply]
    The content that Dogsincars7 tried to remove was sourced, and presumably true. But it was personal information about someone other than the subject of the article: I believe her privacy should be respected, as recommended at WP:NPF. I will remove the paragraph. Maproom (talk) 16:43, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Including quotations (in this case from a primary source)

    Where can I find the rules on the inclusion of (a) quoted text from a source and (b) quoted text from a primary source (if they are different). I seem to remember seeing style guide info that said avoid using too many quotes, etc., but can't find it now.ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 17:52, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Unusual coordinate format

    So, while expanding the Cerro Tuzgle article I've found this source which uses an unusual coordinate format like S 24° 14′ 802″ W 66° 21′ 755″ which {{Coord}} does not accept. Is there a way to read/translate that format so that it works?Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:57, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Is that a direct copy and paste of the coordinates from your source? Seconds of latitude and longitude (the 3rd parameter of each, as written above) should be >= 0 and < 60. My best guess is that your source has been written or edited by someone who does not properly understand latitude and longitude, and what you have is actually thousandths of a minute. I.e. the correct coordinates are probably S 24° 14.802′ W 66° 21.755′. The first digit of each being > 6 is what makes me think it must be decimal fractions of a minute. The article is behind a paywall, so I'm unable to view those numbers in context. I've worked with a variety of consumer and professional GPS units, going back to some of the very first non-military units from Raytheon, and have seen a mixture of formats, some using seconds, some using decimal fractions of a minute, some configurable to both formats. --Murph9000 (talk) 18:14, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    It is a direct copy and paste from the article. There is no explanation at all for the odd format.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:58, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I would ignore that article because Google Earth has those co-ordinates in a river valley. It's a very big mountain, and fractions of a minute are probably not necessary. Other references say 24 degrees 05 minutes and 66 degrees 48 minutes, but they also look wrong on the map (probably a viewpoint on the road). The highest point looks to be very close to the 24 degrees 03 minutes and 66 degrees 29 minutes already given in the Wikipedia article. Dbfirs 09:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Dbfirs: Technically, these coordinates refer to hot springs associated with the volcano, but such hot springs are often at some distance to it.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:09, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Beware of geodetic datum. A mismatch between the coordinate and map datum can introduce a significant plotting error. --Murph9000 (talk) 09:27, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that there can be a mismatch, but the US military claims 02 minutes and 31 minutes [1]. The exact height of 5500 metres (has it grown?) on Google Earth occurs at 3.357 minutes and 28.738 minutes. I assume that this is WGS84 and is the same as that used by Wikipedia. Dbfirs 09:41, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Well, nevermind. I've just found out (based on other sources) that indeed the "thousandths of a minute" reading was the correct reading of the coordinates. I'll correct the coord indicators to use these readings. Thanks for the help, guys!Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:41, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    January 17

    Twinkle

    Every time I edit a page with Twinkle, is added to my watchlist. How I can disable it? Laberinto16 (talk) 00:01, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Laberinto16: Preferences -> Gadgets -> Preferences panel (at the end of the Twinkle gadget line) -> And then it depends. There are a lot of different watchlist options but I am assuming you mean when you revert people. Those are under the Revert and rollback section. Look for "Add pages to watchlist for these types of reversions:" --Majora (talk) 00:07, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

    I'm trying to link this web site to this article but can't seem to get it right. http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford19611002-01.2.3#} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruinguy (talk • contribs) 00:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    The error message says: "Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).", and the words "help page" are in blue to indicate that they are a wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:20, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

    Hello, my father, Beat artist William J Bowman, who had his first art exhibition at Madam Gechtoff's Art Gallery during the 1950's claims she was referred to as "Madam Gechtoff." Sonia Gechtoff and her husband also had a small daughter at the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linnea Bowman Hart (talk • contribs) 02:16, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    The error messages each say "Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).", with the words "help page" being in blue to indicate that they are a wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:25, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Moving page on sustainable consumption teaching from userspace to Wikipedia

    Resolved
     – Orschiro (talk) 08:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Dear all,

    I would like to receive some help and advice regarding a recent overview table that I had been preparing on sustainable consumption teaching activities.

    This is the article which is currently in my personal userspace:

    User:Orschiro/SCORAI/Sustainable Consumption Teaching

    I think the table would best fit in reference to the page Sustainable consumption.

    What is your advice on moving my table to the Wikipedia?

    Thankfully,

    ~Robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orschiro (talk • contribs) 06:46, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Robert, as a first step, you may wish to start a discussion at Talk:Sustainable consumption, the specific talk page for the article. That is more likely to reach the attention of people who have an interest in that article (and would be the most likely people to raise any objections or issues with your content). The immediate issue that I see, is that your table does not cite any reliable sources. It is also quite large. I suggest starting with the article's talk page, possibly posting a link to your discussion at the related Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Environment/Sustainability task force, and see what response you get there. Hopefully that will help you find interested editors to produce a useful collaborative effort. --Murph9000 (talk) 07:53, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you very much for your assistance, Murph!

    The next steps to proceed are clear to me now.

    Orschiro (talk) 08:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I would like to write on Wikipedia about a person I know

    Laurence Sacco 1959 to present.

    Laurence was born in Windsor,Berkshire, United Kingdom in September 1959 to an Italian father and a British army captain and Lilian Sacco an English mother. He had two brothers and one sister. His mother was a very ill lady from tne age of 18 years and this was to have a huge impact on the families life. His motnef died when Laurence was only 9 years of age leaving tne family devastated. Due to immense pressures with his fathers work and having to bring up a family of tbe youngest age of 5 years his father decided to split the family up to give them a chance in life. Laurences' two younger brothers remained witn the father whilst his sister went to live with an aunt whilst Laurence was cared for by his grandparents in Oxford. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.33.10 (talk) 07:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Please read WP:BIO for a full explanation of what it takes for a person to qualify as having notability, one the prerequisites for an article to exist on Wikipedia. The notability must be able to be properly supported via reliable sources. You might want to consider the WP:AFC process, for a collaborative and reviewed mechanism for creating articles. --Murph9000 (talk) 07:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia is particularly strict about biographies of living persons, and Google doesn't find any reliable sources for any Laurence Sacco, so, unfortunately, unless he has been written about elsewhere, I don't think you will be able to create an article about him. Sorry to disappoint you. Dbfirs 08:40, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with footnote 17 on Gilles (stock character) page.

    I am requesting that the "error" tag in footnote 17 of the Gilles (stock character) page be removed. The content of the note applies to each of the three citations. In the first citation, the note explains that the "anonymity" of the Théâtre des boulevards collection is qualified by the fact that Fagan published one of its plays as one of his own, thus revealing the play's authorship. In the second citation, the note identifies the play in question (Fagan's Isabelle), allowing the reader to find and read it. In the third citation, the note gives evidence of the fact that Fagan (author of Isabelle) was drawn to the parade genre.

    I am also puzzled by the note in red inserted into the "Duchartre" entry in the "References" section of the page. What needs fixing? and how to fix? Beebuk 07:51, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Beebuk: The error tag is due to the fact that the ref tags have the same name="r&r" which indicates that all three footnotes should have the same text. But the third tag has different footnote text from the other two; so the wiki software is warning you that it doesn’t understand which text it should put in the footnote. If you really want it to have different footnote text for the third, you should remove the name parameter. (Ideally only one ref would have text and the others would have only <ref name="r&r" />.)
    The Duchartre error is due to the paramter “year=1929; Dover reprint 1966” It is telling you that “1929; Dover reprint 1966” is not a valid year. —teb728 t c 09:10, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beebuk:Perhaps a way to achieve the intent of the Duchartre reference would be to code year=1929|orig-year=Dover reprint 1966 (though that thwarts the intent of the template designer).

    My userpage

    I have designed my user page after other editors Bearian, Scientzille, MelbourneStar. Below my user page, there is a large white box. I tried to shrink it like the date template above. Can anybody shrink the box? --Marvel Hero (talk) 08:33, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Marvel Hero:The empty space was due to about 50 blank lines. I removed all but one of them. Is that what you wanted? —teb728 t c 08:47, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, you have done fine. Can you shrink it more, to make it look like the green and the blue template? And is it possible to keep some space between the blue template which states "User page for Marvel Hero" and the white template?--Marvel Hero (talk) 08:51, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    You've got two <br> tags embedded inside the bottom decoration. If you remove them, it will remove the blank space. If you want space between the two templates, you could put a blank line there. Or, I suppose, a <br> tag. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:02, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Nigel Poett

    Is ref number 33 OK - it is NOT an original document. I am concerned - Please help. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 12:41, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    It's the same as Ref 1, unfortunately there's no original publication detail. You could try contacting the website to ask them to add the source details to the page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:55, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    can i download w.p.

    Can I download a version ofwikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.157.0.61 (talk) 13:57, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi person editing from 197.157.0.61 Yes, you can. See Wikipedia:Database download.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:59, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    But please note that as the total file is over 60Gb you will need a fast, reliable, internet connection, and be prepared to wait a considerable time - Arjayay (talk) 16:42, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia means to me

    Wikipedia is everything you need to know about anything at all. It is an infinite source of knowledge that will continue to educate us until we are satisfied for our hunger for knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.77.174.247 (talk) 15:52, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    New article - Michal Cander: polish artist -> better version

    Dear Wiki Friends, I have added new article about polish artist Michał Cander. I asked 13.01 about your help. One of us (Maproom) has suggested that my article has not enough references. I worked on it. I have found a lot of references about artist. I would like to ask about more advices, what could I do more to make my draft to be an article. I am also afraid about English gramma. It would be great if somebody could help and check my article. I spent a lot of time to filled in informations about Mr. Cander. Thank you in advance for your help. P.S I am sorry that I create one more topic in helpdesk, but I am not sure that my answer from 13.01 is correct. Link to draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Micha%C5%82_Cander

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