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Indic Language support for m.wikipedia.org

Can we have support for indic languages ? --naveenpf (talk) 05:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Work on language variants has not started yet, but it has been requested before and it is planned. The biggest problem is how to efficiently integrate it in the mobile interfaces. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 10:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi DJ, Can I know we can help you -- naveenpf (talk) 14:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No I don't think so. Not at this time. But if you want to help, the code is here: http://github.com/hcatlin/wikimedia-mobile and the bugs are here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=Mobile —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some ideas that will greatly improve the mobile version of wikipedia

The mobile version of Wikipedia is very nice (I actually prefer it over the regular version) but I have some ideas to make it better

(I use wikipedia mobile on an iPhone- but I assume that it's the same on any mobile device) (Some of these might be applicable for the regular version of Wikipedia as well)

1. The ability to EDIT articles from it. (It annoys me when I'm viewing an article and I see vandalism in it and there's nothing I can do but ignore it at the time) (I've read on the front page there that this isn't possible at the moment- But I think that would be a VERY nice feature.

2. Get rid of any tags "NPOV, Citation needed," and so on.. on the mobile version. They just make it look unprofessional and specifically, the citation needed template is extremely abused and overused (literally, i've seen an article where every sentence finished with a CN tag, or basic facts such as "Greg was born in San Diego" with CN tags among them- I'd suggest just getting rid of the tag on wikipedia completely but the idea would get rejected by a bunch of idiots.) If there is no intention for the mobile version to have editing in it, then the CN tag especially should not be viewed in the mobile version, since it's mainly a tool for editors- and means just about nothing to the casual reader- other then to imply doubt about a presented fact. Since all the tags are tools for editors (at least that's what they are supposed to be) they shouldn't be on a streamlined mobile version, if editing is not included. (possibly have an options to display the tags or not- it increases readability and makes it look more professional)

3. Categories should be viewable at the bottom of each page.

4. in regular wikipedia, External Links appear differently than Interwiki links. In Mobile version, I can't tell the difference between the two.

5. Red interwiki Links should have an option to be viewed as just regular black text.

6. The references column (and all numbered references throughout the article) should either have an option to be toggled off or just be removed from mobile version because[15] It can be kind of[16] annoying when you are trying to read a long article [17]. additionally, the references columns normally aren't readable on the mobile site due to long URL's

7. If I click on a wikipedia article, it loads the regular website for about 10 seconds, then toggles to the mobile version- wasting 10 seconds.. not sure if that's a technical thing that can be fixed or if it has to be like that.

8. basically, a panel to configure how you view articles on the mobile version could remove some of my complaints and get it so people could have it how they want to view it.

I don't know if there actually is a display preferences for the mobile version, but if there is, I can't find it.

Please respond on point by case. RF23 (talk) 04:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If I may add my own suggestion, it would be some sort of conditional construct (does it already exist?) so that when I'm authoring content, I can specify different formatting for a mobile device. As I described on the Talk:C shell page, I've used blockquoting on some lists of features, where the lists were long and each item needed description. It works well on a laptop or desktop to let you see them as lists but it looks silly on my Droid. I wish I could fix that. Msnicki (talk) 19:48, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent wishlist to which can offer a few quibbles and an addition:

  1. Yes. Tablet computers can go to the full version for editing but it's impractical on my little Samsung Intercept and most phones.
  2. Yes, hiding warning flags would be a good option, though of course editing is the proper response to the general plague of excessive tagging.
  3. Better to put Categories and other non discoursive elements in an auxiliary menu.
  4. Your other points, I can agree though you have correctly prioritized them lower.

My addition: Maps. I love traveling around with the Wikipedia layer of Google Maps on my phone showing W symbols for every local Wikipedia article and clicking on it to see the article. But, having followed an internal link to a related article that also has coordinates (next train station, town's famous school or church, whatever), there is nothing to click to return to the map at the new location. That should also be on the auxiliary menu. Jim.henderson (talk) 12:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

05 August 2016: One additional request is to view old pages, which are the permanent links, within the mobile app. Many published works reference a permanent link, which can only be opened in a web browser currently, rather than the mobile app. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B814:2D9C:B42F:1605:F54E:1DEC (talk) 14:59, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! After the latest redesign of Wikipedia, interlanguage box expands via javascript and as a result it can't be expanded in Opera Mini. I had not that problem with old wikipedia design. Mobile wikipedia (m.wikipedia.org) doesn't offer interlanguage box for articles. I know it's possible to register and turn on the old design, but some users don't prefer to register, and in some cases loggin into account is unsafe. My request is to disable js for interlanguage box because it's very useful especially during mobile browsing... --94.27.92.188 (talk) 05:16, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prices for apps

?I just update the "wikihunt" app to 1.99 as that was the price when i followed the link. If someone could evry few days update the prices that would be great.Maz640 (talk) 00:03, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Official Wikipedia app for Android?

I have an Android phone (Motorola Droid), and an official Wikipedia app would be quite handy. Make it able to edit Wikipedia from mobile devices for logged-in users, and that would be even better... SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:11, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scroll down when editing a wiki page

Ok this may be dumb question but here goes: I like to view wiki as a normal webpage on my iphone. I touch edit, and I get the normal editing screen with the main text sub-window. I touch the sub-window with the text to edit, but I would like to scroll down in the sub-window. The problem is that when I touch the screen to scroll down, the whole page moves and not the text subwindow. how do i get down to the bottom? --DIREKTOR (TALK) 13:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The only way I know of is to tap the edit box to activate it, then touch it again and hold until the "circle zoom" comes up. At that point you should be able to scroll down very slowly just by sliding your finger down past the edit box. It is not rapid or efficient at all. Probably a better solution is to enable section editing in your preferences so the content of the edit boxes are more manageable. –CWenger (talk) 15:04, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
horrible. This turns any attempt to edit a longer talk section an hour-long process, with the annoying inch-by-inch scroll being required before each post. This effectively renders wikipedia un-editable via iPhone. I personally cannot believe this wasn't fixed somehow. I was sure I was just being thick about it :( --DIREKTOR (TALK) 19:19, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it is unfortunate. I wonder if this same difficulty exists on an iPad? These are prime Wikipedia editing platforms that are going unutilized. The problem is exacerbated by the fact that there are zero Wikipedia apps that support editing. –CWenger (talk) 19:37, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wait I've got it! Simply scroll down with two fingers, one above the other ^_^ --DIREKTOR (TALK) 22:53, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah you're right! Thanks!!! –CWenger (talk) 23:00, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd still love to see a free iPhone app that allows editing though! –CWenger (talk) 23:00, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Its all for the reader, nothing for us poor editors... :)
This two-touch scroll stuff should be posted somewhere, though. I imagine others have met with this issue. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 23:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I think either this page or a new one called Help:Mobile editing would be the appropriate place for that information. –CWenger (talk) 23:46, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Have been struggling with this for a while. If I have to edit a largish block I'll generally activte the edit box, hold a finger down on text until I get a "Select all". Copy and paste into the notepad. The notepad allows for much faster scrolling. It does mean that there is no preview available until you cut and paste it back into the edit box, but it's a work-around that I use at times. PuppyOnTheRadio (talk) 03:17, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Windows Phone?

Now that WinPho7 is growing, can it be added to the list of auto-redirects? The mobile site works fine on my Samsung Focus. User-agent is here; it looks like the key identifiers of the platform are the strings "IEMobile/7.0" and "Windows Phone OS 7.0". David Brooks (talk) 16:38, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New landing page for Wikimedia mobile efforts: meta:Mobile Projects

Just a note to highlight meta:Mobile Projects, the point of coordination of all Wikimedia mobile projects. I'm not sure how this should be announced in the main article, but it would be good to have it visible enough to help users finding the right place to report problems and make suggestions. For further discussion I'm watching this page, and you can also join us at #wikimedia-mobile IRC channel.--Qgil (talk) 15:57, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Portals instead of today's featured article

On the official mobile version of Wikipedia, I suggest replacing today's featured article with main portals instead, similarly to the standard main page:

Welcome to Wikipedia,
6,909,430 articles in English

The today's featured article is seldom the information you seek when going to Wikipedia, so the portals would serve the reader's need better. Also, I think the mobile main page must be kept short, and the portals take less space. Mikael Häggström (talk) 06:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer to have the featured article myself, and then search for what I'm after. PuppyOnTheRadio (talk) 03:25, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Symbian^3 redirect

At the moment I end up on the normal desktop version of Wikipedia on my N8 - I didn't even know theres was a mobile version until I tried an iPhone. Neither the default browser nor Opera Mobile appear to be redirected at the moment. They are not on the supported list, but work perfectly if I manually navigate to the mobile site. Could whoever is responsible (or knows how) add one? If not for Symbian, at least Opera Mobile.

User agents keywords: Opera: S60; SymbOS; Opera Mobi/SYB-1104051448 Default browser: Symbian/3; Series60/5.2; NokiaN8-00/014.002; Profile/MIDP-2.1

Thanks115.64.12.216 (talk) 16:24, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sub-section bug

I just saw a web page with a link to the URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope_%28film%29#Long_takes while using the native Android browser on my HTC Desire HD.

On Rope (film), Long takes is a level-3 heading.

I followed the link, and was redirected to the mobile version, but landed at the top of the page, with the sections collapsed and showing only level-2 headings. I then had to open several level-2 sections before finding #Long_takes Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 11:21, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On checking the issue also occurs with URLs for level-2 headings, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRpedia#Implementations / QRpedia#Implementations (though obviously level-2 headings are displayed, on the mobile version, so easier to find). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC))[reply]

the 7val site doesn't seem to support logging in or editing

http://en.wikipedia.7val.com no longer seems to support editing or logging in. I'm not sure if it's temporary or permanent but should a note about this be made? --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:40, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this is fixed or not, but I'm a bit suprised WP is comfortable endorsing logging in through another site... especially for admin. I understand 7val may be a fine company, but I'm wary of giving logging in with my admin PW through that site.  7  04:59, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No editing?

Not very practical, but doable

I've been able to log in and make the edit shown in the picture using my Android device. Granted, I had to permanently disable the mobile site, but it is possible to edit from an Android phone. I thought it was because as a sysop I had WP:IPEXEMPT status, but then I realised I'd done it from an alternate screenname with no IPEXEMPT set. Matthewedwards :  Chat  08:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help...

I have a 3ds and this needs information on how to use options like bold with one. Also I can't edit long pages or tons of text is missing. Scientific Alan (talk) 08:52, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia iPhone app bug report

I have the app on my 3GS and it won't update. "The item you tried to buy is no longer available." Please help and fix!!!! --Zhane Masaki (talk) 23:20, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pencil Button Disappeared

Not sure which OSor browsers this bug has affected, but the little pencil button that allows mobile users to edit a section has disappeared on some devices. Article should reflect bugs and other problems.I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 14:23, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

E-book reader

Yesterday I met a Wikipedian who had a Kindle E-ink E-reader, not a Coby Android tablet like mine with color and backlight. Will there be a version for him and others similarly equipped? Jim.henderson (talk) 22:09, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move the "mobile view" link from bottom of page to the top

for the love of god can someone move the "mobile site" link from the bottom of the page to the top. Its a stupid place to put since one has to load entire damn page to get to it, THEN switch to mobile since I'm no longer automatically directed to the mobile wikipedia on my itouch anymore — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.60.18 (talk) 12:28, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Today on my Samsung Intercept Android phone, every time I tapped the W in Google Earth for the Wikipedia article, the desktop view came up instead of the mobile view. I have no idea whether to blame Samsung, Google, Wikimedia or the Almighty for that, but surely blame for the "Mobile vew" link being on the bottom belongs somewhere in the Wikicomplex. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There are ways to restore the mobile view as the default; first (updated 2012-08-15), try clicking the "Go to the mobile website" on the Wikipedia:Enable_mobile_version superseded "Go to the Mobile Site" link which attempts to clear the stopMobileRedirect cookie. If that doesn't work, the talk page for the Enable mobile versions has more workarounds. For a long term fix, Bug 38009 tracks this problem. sn‾uǝɹɹɐʍɯ (talk) 02:43, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks but, umm, the "special" link leads my new Android phone (HTC EVO V 4G now) from the mobile version of this talk page to the desk version of en Main. Am I failing to understand? Anyway I shall be grateful when the phone can more easily switch back and forth between the two versions while keeping the mobile version as default when coming from Google Earth or elsewhere. For that matter Google ought to provide two buttons, not one, but that's definitely not Wiki's problem while I hope our own clever and industrious developers can do something about the switching method. Jim.henderson (talk) 12:01, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully the new (2012-08-15) stop gap solution added by TheDJ solved the problem switching between versions. The Wikipedia:Enable_mobile_version page also has an updated "Go to the mobile website" link. Clearing the browser cache might help make the fix work sooner. sn‾uǝɹɹɐʍɯ (talk) 23:43, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I didn't get back to you; been out snapping photos and other activities. Yes, both versions are now bringing me to the en Main page under the default browser. Thanks; hope our developers can improve the actual Web pages to allow easy toggling. Jim.henderson (talk) 20:39, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bug in Opera Mobile 12

I use Opera Mobile on an HTC Sensation (Android 4) and since the recent update to Opera 12 mobile Wikipedia isn't working correctly. Expanding subsections takes many taps to register and when subsections are opened they only open for about 1.5 inch of screen space, with remaining text cut off sometimes showing the top half of the letters on the next line. I haven't been able to find a fix or workaround other than using desktop mode or using the stock browser.

Any ideas? I suspect the problem might also be with Opera. thefunkygibsonT¤C 16:57, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Really would like to edit wit hit.Dennydoo4 (talk) 03:55, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T41375

(no idea if this should go here) Recently, the search function added a search suggestion list as you type. This is nice, but the site now forces the user to click a suggestion when one used to be able to just hit the Enter key. Having to unnecessarily take your hands off the keyboard, or keypad in this case, is pretty annoying. It also makes searching for things that don't have their own articles impossible-- for example, there's information about Vivaldi's "Gardellino" flute concerto in the article about his Opus 10, but since it doesn't have its own article you can't search for it on the mobile site anymore. Prior to the change (and on the regular Wiki site), you'd end up on the Search Results page, where you could select an appropriate article.

Also, it would be nice if one could use the arrow keys to scroll through the suggestion list and hit Enter to select.

If it matters, I'm using a Windows Phone 7.5 with Internet Explorer. 24.252.205.85 (talk) 16:19, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Either way I wouldn't know the answer but it may help if you say whether this the Wikipedia App, or the .m. version of the URL seen with the default Safari Browser. Jim.henderson (talk) 21:20, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I presume this is a windows phone 7.5 issue.. On my iphone it just takes me to the search results when I hit enter. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:57, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Android coords bug?

Waiting two hours at DMV this morning I downloaded the Android official app to my new HTC EVO V 4G phone. I was pleased to see coordinates, for example in Governors Island where the coords appear twice. Unfortunately, tapping either copy of the coords merely brought me to the same article page, differing only in that the title was followed by a # sign. Shouldn't it open the built in Google Maps application to show the location of the island?

In the .m. Mobile Version of the Web page, the coords appear only once, and tapping brings me the same Geohack page as when I'm using my desk computer, which is difficult to use on the small phone screen. Seems to me, this too ought to go straight to the Google Maps app or whatever similar map program may be installed. But at least this one isn't broken; it's merely poor. Am I reporting this in the right place? Jim.henderson (talk) 04:14, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The best place to report any Wikipedia App bug is here —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:54, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Go back to the old mobile site

I absolutely hate the new version. Everyone already knows of the problems accessing the mobile site, and yet somehow it was a smart idea to add at the very bottom of the page a 'more' option, so that if I have trouble with the mobile site loading and want to switch to the desktop version and I have wait for every section and opening pic to load. What a bright idea. Let's try moving the option to go desktop at the. top. of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.60.18 (talk) 04:21, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Disable wikipedia mobile

How do you disable the Wikipedia mobile so it never comes up in your browser? Hawkeye7 (talk) 05:49, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Me too. I really want to see the full layout on my android tablet.

If you look at the bottom of your screen you will see an option for "desk top version" - click it and this will take you away from the read-only version or mobile web version of Wikipedia to the normal (non-mobile) version. You can also do a goggle search for Wikipedia and chose the web version (en.wikipedia.org/) over the mobile version (http://m.wikipedia.org).Moxy (talk) 21:49, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I found it now. But I had to unfold the last section first. In my opinion, the option should be in the setting (top left menu). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.226.182.109 (talk) 22:19, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This no longer works, permanent disable, and now I have to check the desktop option in my browser or I it forces a redirect to mobile even when I select desktop in Google searches. This has changed over the past few weeks, and it is really annoying. Wikipedia's mobile is worthless, why would I use a 4G phone or ipad and choose to access half the site? Don't any of the developers own smart phones? -166.137.209.143 (talk) 17:01, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there no option to disable the mobile version of wikipedia? I HATE IT but no longer have the option of not seeing it - except to click on it every single time I view an article. WHY DID THE COOKIE GO AWAY?

Completely agree, there should be an option to force off mobile view. Such a feature could also boost the number of registered users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.90.183.224 (talk) 03:49, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It would be nice to have a toggle in Preferences to disable loading the mobile version of Wikipedia. Somerandomuser (talk) 20:58, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tag: Mobile edits

Just noticed on my watch list, a tag of Tag: Mobile edit on an edit by someone else. Other than using the normal version of wikipedia through a mobile or tablet browser (which I am doing right now), how is mobile editing possible? I just tried the Android and en.m versions and didn't seem to be able to edit - and the watchlist functionality of en.m must have been designed by someone who had never used wikipedia, it is completely useless. So, has mobile editing been implemented in an app yet? The-Pope (talk) 03:06, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Categories

Why don't the mobile Wikipedia pages have the categories at the bottom? I think it would be very convenient to have them there.72.231.136.240 (talk) 17:15, 16 March 2013 (UTC) WHY THE HELL HAS NO ONE RESPONDED TO THIS? (this the same guy as above, btw, just in case the IP Adress ends up being different for whatever reason)198.228.201.154 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:15, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm failing to see them anywhere on the .m. page, and don't understand why the bottom would be the right place. Where categories belong, I think, is under the menu button along with most things that are in every page and aren't article text, headers, or pictures. And I'm not entirely sure that even showing the pictures should be a default condition rather than a menu choice. Mobile pages ought to be deeply layered, so they won't be long. Jim.henderson (talk) 02:01, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Its been more than 3 years and I'm still annoyed that nothing has been done about this yet74.76.208.129 (talk)

New mobile, old was bad enough

I used to be able to just enter www.en.wik, etc., and get the desktop site, but now, unless I force check my browser to select the desktop site, wikipedia redirects me to the mobile. If I remove the l, it still redirects to mobile. Why? The mobile site is unreadable.

Why don't the developers stop this? On my large screen 4G cell phone, there is no need to use the mobile site, and by removing the "m," I am indicating that I do not want to use it. And, because Wikipedia is the only primitive site that does this, if I have multiple open windows in my browser (Android), then, every time I switch between windows, I have to check or uncheck the force desktop. Wikipedia mobile is unreadable. If an article has short sections, it takes you ten times as long to open each section as reading the article takes.

People have mobile devices with high capabilities, mobile Wikipedia is awful, why force users to greater lengths to get to the point where they can read the article? Yes, there still are readers. -198.228.216.164 (talk) 05:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. It needs to be easy to opt out of the mobile version of Wikipedia. -Doradus (talk) 20:13, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed too. While users can typically change the user agent in their mobile browser (to "fool" WP into "believing" a user is on a PC), most users will prefer not to do that when viewing most sites.
If default mobile browsers allowed this UA setting on a per-site basis, then this would be fine--but they don't. And I would call this a browser issue, except that most sites are far less aggressive in forcing users to view their mobile version (irrespective of the address the user enters).
Simply put, WP's behavior here is obstructive, unusual, and unnecessary, and that makes this a WP problem. Deserves more than just consideration, based on the wealth of Google results for this problem (spread over several years by now). 208.54.87.130 (talk) 18:20, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How to get my watchlist on Android mobile

I've just got a new phone: Android Galaxy Fame with Android 4.1.2.

On my old San Francisco phone, I could happily read my watchlist, in the destop layout but with lines wrapped appropriately for the small screen. (But I can't remember how I got to that happy state, as for many months I just picked it up from Bookmarks each time I looked at it).

On the new one, I can't as yet see my watchlist other than in raw desktop view, with un-wrapped lines: not really usable.

I've installed the Android Wikipedia app, which is fine for articles but doesn't offer links to anything like Watchlists.

I've just input the URL as en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist, and got a horrible format I've come across occasionally before, where after several clicks I can see "All" and "Modified", but with no aggregation of the multiple changes to a page.

Any ideas as to how to get a readable, functional, watchlist on this device? PamD 23:08, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: If you use the mobile website in your browser (en.m.wikipedia.org) there is the ability to log in and use your watchlist (among other things, like editing and photo uploads). The watchlist, like most things on the mobile web version, are optimized for smaller screen sizes. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 08:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • PamD, Steven should have noted that the mobile version of the watchlist is missing most features and seems to only work for pages in the article/main namespace. That being said, once you get to the mobile version of the watchlist, you can switch it over to the desktop version to see all of the other changes and use other features. Technical 13 (talk) 12:37, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • It is missing some features (including for now, rollback/undo/thank) but it does work on all namespaces. Just make sure you switch over to the "Modified" view, not the All view, and the feature will remember your preference. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 20:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback

Can someone help me? I just tried the Experimental version of Wikipedia Mobile, and promptly switched back to the Beta version, as I couldn't even edit it. Bugzilla is, for some reason, no longer excepting bug reports for Wikipedia Mobile. Where can I report the multitudes of bugs I found? Nick1372 (talk) 00:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Maryana (WMF): here is probably okay to report bugs if find Bugzilla is broken. I should say that the experimental branch off of Beta is often wildly broken or off-kilter in places, which is why they make it slightly hard to get to (e.g. only available to Beta users). Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 09:13, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like you were able to file the bugs after all, Nick :) As Steven said, the experimental version is highly unstable and volatile; we make that pretty clear in the disclaimer when you opt in to use it. For a more stable but still experimental mobile experience, try switching to the beta site. Maryana (WMF) (talk) 00:22, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I found a different category to report them in. I already do use the Beta version, but I thought it would be helpful to report the bugs anyway. Nick1372 (talk) 00:49, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia app - manual, updates listed on bugzilla, and user help links

I've just loaded the Wikimedia app (1.3.4) and struck by a few questions. Help appreciated:

  1. There is no user help or help link provided for newcomers to the app. I also can't find one via Google or linked from this wiki page. Does one exist?
  2. There is a reference to "v1.4beta1" or "Wikimedia Beta" in Google Play but no such app seems to be linked or discussed on any Wikimedia site, or downloadable from Wikimedia's file servers.
  3. A number of bugs and features in Bugzilla are tagged as "resolved" but there doesn't seem to be a download or snapshot that contains these resolutions. Do these exist?

Thanks,

FT2 (Talk | email) 13:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia mobile page have a bug for sister project links

I found Wikipedia mobile page cannot show sister project links (which is formed of {{Sister}}) when I read some articles, can you solve the problem?--Great Brightstar (talk) 13:43, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Help article: Which section should Google Web Transcoder subsection go under?

After learning of Wapedia's closure, I found out and wrote some helpful information about how to still access Wikipedia with a WAP-only browser, and included Google Web Transcoder (GWT) under Mobile website versions section, given that GWT is a third-party service that transforms Wikipedia pages into the WAP format. — It seems to me that the GWT subsection subject matter overlaps with the topics of both 'Mobile website versions' and 'Browsing options for older phones' sections; Therefore the question is, if the Google Web Transcoder subsection should be moved up into the Browsing options for older phones section.. -Mardus (talk) 03:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion about medical disclaimers on specific articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/RFC_on_medical_disclaimer, during which it came up that the WP:General disclaimer link on the mobile version can only be found by readers who get curious and click the icon with the three bars at the top left of the screen. Because a reader may not be aware that is even a link, or might say he wasn't, that doesn't seem like a sufficient disclaimer. It is true that there is a very brief disclaimer in the WP:Terms of use that is linked at the bottom, but one can argue that it is insufficient, at least morally. In any case, many think the disclaimer should be made more prominent in the desktop version that has it plainly at the bottom of each page, so I think it is appropriate at least to keep it there in the mobile version, beside the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Is there a better place than this to discuss the design of the mobile interface? Wnt (talk) 16:39, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Official BlackBerry app

The link for the official WikiMedia BB app seems broken. Vectro (talk) 17:17, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Still seems to be broke. I recently made a post about this at list of Wikipedia mobile applications - but it seems it's been a problem since 2014?! Please remove it if the app's not supported anymore.
The url is: https://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/105171/ and I'm getting this error there:
Unknown item
The requested item does not exist or is not available. (EC)
Please check it, thanks. --Fixuture (talk) 20:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmation?

If I click on the "Thank" link in the heading of a diff, the system asks me if I want to thank that editor, so I can confirm or not. That's fine. But if I'm looking at diffs on my mobile phone and accidentally hit the huge green "Thank" button which is in the bottom right corner very near to my phone's "back" button, there's no such safeguard. That's a problem. Please ensure that mobile users are protected from accidental thanking.

I've also raised this problem at Wikipedia_talk:Notifications#Confirmation.3F. PamD 08:23, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile version bad

Can wikipedia simply stick to the desktop version also for mobile access! The mobile version gives a lot of difficulties and IMHO doesn't have any further advantage compared to the desktop version. In fact mobile version is also suitable for the mobile access. 112.198.90.91 (talk) 13:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My experience differs. On my 4 inch phone screen the desktop version is far more difficult. On the 10 inch tablet screen, the desktop version is easy, so I set each for what it can handle best. Jim.henderson (talk) 18:49, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

QRpedia

I'm surprised that WP:MOBILE does not mention QRpedia at all. Should it? Mitch Ames (talk) 12:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

keep getting desktop view on my android

hi

whenever i google something on my android (htc 1s), get a wikipedia result, and hit it - i get the desktop version.

i hit mobile view and it switches to the mobile view BUT when i change the language it goes back to desktop view.

help! (by email if possible to rzg7@bezeqint.net)

--Rzg (talk) 13:35, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Permanently disable the mobile access for iPad users

Why can't I permanently disabled the mobile access? The desktop version looks great on my iPad. There is absolutely no need to enforce the mobile access on iPad users (from google I'm automatically redirected to the mobile access version. This started 1-2 weeks ago). Evenfiel (talk) 01:30, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Amen to that! My iPad has a screen resolution that is probably higher than most desktop computer screens' five years ago. Even though there is nothing particularly wrong with the mobile version, it offers no advantages either (unless possibly on a very low-bandwidth cell connection, which I rarely have). Switching back and forth between two user interfaces is just annoying! --Feldkurat Katz (talk) 13:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like this was fixed. Evenfiel (talk) 17:14, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Since it just happened again, I'd say it isn't. Suggestions? UrbanTerrorist (talk) 00:06, 28 September 2014 (UTC
Agreed. The mobile version is a pain in the ass with iPad. I wonder how much time have I wasted getting the mobile view by default, then scrolling down and reloading. --Jisis (talk) 13:10, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I dislike the layout of content on the mobile pages. I think it would be very useful to have a toggle (in Preferences) to prevent loading mobile pages. I believe this would be a simple and straightforward solution. Somerandomuser (talk) 21:04, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Turn mobile access off

I use an iPad and I rather view Wikipedia in the desktop version. Could I to turn mobile access off as a default setting as well? Ophedi (talk) 14:33, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is a problem for me too. I have selected 'Desktop' about ten times in the last two weeks, and the site keeps switching me back to Mobile this is a REAL nuisance with the Mobile/Desktop switcher link at the bottom of the page. In fact it is getting close to making Wikipedia unusable. UrbanTerrorist (talk) 18:22, 18 August 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Or at least, the "Desk view" button should be on the menu as well as at the bottom of the page. "Help" should be on the menu also. Needs bigger menu. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:24, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

it appears the preference is saved in a cookie, so once the Desktop link is clicked, the choice is retained until you clear your cookies. I agree that moving or duplicating the link at the top of the page would be better. I am typically disappointed with the mobile rendering prior to reaching the end of the article. SRICE13 (TALK | EDITS) 02:56, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My solution

  1. Create a bookmark to your watchlist
  2. Clear your safari cookies
  3. Open your bookmark, it will open the mobile version. DON'T LOG IN
  4. Request the desktop version by clicking the address bar and drag down and select the desktop option
  5. Login. From now on you will be in desktop mode

Two kinds of porkMakin'Bacon 09:25, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know why this isn't a problem with my iPad Air original. I switch easily between mobile and "desktop" views when I want, and seldom get stuck either way. The problem I do get is, when editing mobile, the green "Save" button slides up out of view. I turn the tablet from portrait to landscape and back, to restore the button. Nuisance. Jim.henderson (talk) 12:21, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Recent changes?

How do I get to the page Special:RecentChanges while using the Mobile view? I looked for this option everywhere but I am unable to find it.--Micru (talk) 03:38, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Talk pages?

I recently tried to point a new editor using the mobile version of Wikipedia to an article's talk page and failed to find an easy way to do so. Is there a link to an article's talk page on the mobile version of Wikipedia, and if so, where? If not, wouldn't adding such a link be an issue of high importance? Huon (talk) 00:39, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Seconded. The mobile version seems to let you edit (as it should!) but not check the discussion page to see whether your edit has already been raised and discussed or any other relevant context. Need this feature, please. --Irrevenant [ talk ] 05:47, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's a "pages" icon at the top of an article -but it often seems to come up with "there are no current discussions on this page" when that's not true. Yes, talk page access neds to be fixed. PamD 06:39, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
correction: I'm pretty sure there used to be a pages icon on all articles but it's not there now. You can get a talk page by searching for Talk:Leeds by that full title, though this isn't satisfactory. When you get there, there's a talk page icon , though it doesn't seem to have any effect as it would go to [[Talk:Talk:Leeds]]. All very odd. And of course many talk pages like Talk:Silverdale, Lancashire look empty in mobile view because templates such as wikiproject banners are invisible. Not just collapsed but completely hidden. Makes for a poor mobile experience. PamD 06:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The mobile team experiments with UI until they make something works. Stuff appears, disappears and at some point settles. Let's hope Flow arrives at some point to fix some of the Talk page craziness... and I welcome anyone to put some serious thought in how u can display page banners without going absolutely crazy as a casual reader :) —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:08, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that this is needed. However, the easiest way to reach the talk page is not to use search, but use the address bar and insert "Talk:" before the name of the page. AHeneen (talk) 20:03, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, at least the talk pages seem to render fine when the address is entered manually. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 11:38, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seconded. As of now, I don't have a way of finding the talk page. Could you please fix this? Thank you, Sivan_S (Who mostly writes in the Hebrew Wiki) סיון ש (talk) 05:51, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seconded also. The help documentation actually refers to a talk button at the bottom of the mobile pages, but there clearly is not one there. Talk pages can be useful for investigating the reasoning behind claims on the page, but this just cant be accessed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duckmonster (talk • contribs)
Logged in users have a "Talk" button at the bottom of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example. It disappears when I log out. I dont know whether this disappearance is new. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:27, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
AGREEING WITH THOSE ABOVE ME!!!!!

I am a member of the Tolkien Society at Oxford. I am a newbie, and will most certainly not do the formatting correctly, here, on my first go, so if you find any formatting errors, kindly correct them, but please be civil and save any insults for Parliament, thank you.

That said: I just read some excruciatingly incorrect information regarding Tolkien's mythological world on wiki. None of the citations came from anything Tolkien or the Estate has written, but rather came from lay opinions who's works don't even rank in the top 100 of knowledgeable Tolkienologists. I'm on the move, and carry with me a small pocket tablet that more than suits any need I have - until I use wiki. To address the apparent misinformation, I do not wish to edit, but rather cite corrections on the Talk page. To my chagrin, the mobile program has no access to the Talk pages.

I can see from other posts, here, before me, that this is a long standing problem. Truly, wiki has no real desire for accuracy, as inaccurate information cannot be pointed out by anyone using a mobile device. I am willing to point out errors in Tolkien information, but I will not do the editing, myself, as I am not the folly who wrote the errors in the first place. He who writes in error must be the one to make the corrections - I realize wiki allows for the correction of other's errors, but correcting someone else's work post factum without telling them first is rude, arrogant, and improper. The talk pages is where to address these issues.

Now, wiki, after years of ignoring this issue, it's time to hire an IT staff that knows how to do this, (and may I also recommend creating an edit platform on mobile where I can write like a living soul and not a computer). I hope all my, and et al., words will not again fall on deaf ears - but perhaps we who post here are wasting our time, and are merely talking to those character types who incessantly annoy everyone, because they believe they've arrived at their destination in life, when, really, they have narry even left the station. Time will tell. Again, please forgive my formatting.


What exactly is the issue with adding a link to the talky page ? It can't be THAT hard that it takes the team years to learn how to do something that had been around since the inception of the Internet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.101.222 (talk) 14:58, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a Disputed Inline tag to an article, and the guidelines say I must raise this issue on the Talk page. I can't because there is no link. "Pij" (talk) 02:06, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The only way to do this from the mobile version of the website is to tap on the url in your browser and add "Talk:" before the name of the article (if it is a regular article). Or if the article is in a special namespace (title begins with a word followed by a colon, eg. "Wikipedia:" or "Help:"), then add "_talk" before the colon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Mobile_access
need to be changed to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Mobile_access
AHeneen (talk) 08:44, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extension:Gather launching on beta

Hello, I am Moushira, a new community liaison for mobile products, and this is heads up to an updated I shared on [Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_135#Extension:Gather_launching_on_beta Village pump]. Please check, and don't forget to test the new feature when activated :). Many thanks --Melamrawy (WMF) (talk) 22:35, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The link: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gather --Fixuture (talk) 22:32, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to add global JavaScript

There is an ongoing discussion that watchers of this page may be interested in on Proposal to add global JavaScript and add an extra step for new users to get live IRC help. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 19:44, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No search window on cy-wiki

Can someone please direct me to instructions on how to confogure the Home Page on the Welsh (cy) Wikipedia? The search window seems to have been left out! Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 08:10, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Llywelyn2000: the search box is visible and accessible, but it wasn't until just a few days ago. Can you tell me the version of your mobile operating system, which browser do you use, and its version? If you don't know these things, then might you volunteer the mobile phone model? -Mardus (talk) 11:32, 12 June 2015 (UTC) — That is, if the search function still does not work. -Mardus (talk) 11:38, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
All is well! Thanks! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 14:18, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile version of site does not show edit change

I switch to the desktop site and it works and shows properly. I changed browsers and the mobile site still was not updated with my edit. And on top of that, both browsers were having issues with refreshing the mobile article that I had just edited, even though I edited in only one of the browsers (Cookies are separate). It fails to load and shows a blank page. I have to force restart the browser to get it working again for that page. 172.101.131.131 (talk) 15:42, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(Update) The page that I edited still has not updated on the mobile version. 172.101.131.131 (talk) 10:17, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen something similar in recent days. After editing a section in Mobile View (usually in Simple English WP) it doesn't show the change. Switch to Desktop, and see it. However, going to Watchlist as Desktop, and from there to the just edited page, and from there to Mobile, I see the change. Thus, it's being properly updated for me, just not right away, which will be a much bigger problem for beginners than it is for me. Yes, it needs fixing. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:22, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Probably just a caching problem (so the browser's fault). It should also show on mobile when hard refreshing the page (if possible with the browser) or clearing the cache. You could also try to open the page with the mobile app after editing it in the mobile browser... --Fixuture (talk) 22:30, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Android app shows husband's picture

I'm looking at Agnes Boulton on my phone. It is headed by a photo of Eugene O'Neill, her husband. I don't see anything about that picture in a Windows browser, or in her article's source code. Any idea what's happening? Jim.henderson (talk) 04:22, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jim.henderson: I wonder if the app has picked up the image from the article's navbox? What happens if you view Long Day's Journey into Night (1996 film) on your phone? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:53, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@John of Reading: Long Day's Journey into Night shows properly the "windows card" from the infobox. Perhaps this discussion belongs in a forum where more people have the knowledge and the app. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:38, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. There is a little more discussion at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Picture_of_the_writer.27s_husband_instead_of_her.27s Jim.henderson (talk) 11:45, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jim.henderson: I was asking about Long Day's Journey into Night (1996 film), not Long Day's Journey into Night, but it looks as if the teahouse thread has confirmed my guess. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:16, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@John of Reading: Oops! Yes, the 1996 version shows the playwright's portrait. I hope someone competent is looking into this. Jim.henderson (talk) 13:59, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jim.henderson: Same issue for the hovercards. Reported it here. --Fixuture (talk) 22:25, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How to create a new section?

I didn't notice a New Section or + tab. Is there a way for mobile users to make one other than editing at the end of the last section? Whatever the answer is, it should be mentioned in the article as it is a pretty obvious question. Also, whether there is a tab or not, is there any link that will make a new section on the mobile site (equivalent of ?section=new on the regular site)? Wnt (talk) 00:23, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a mobile device but if I start at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Mobile_access in my desktop browser and click "Talk" at the bottom then I get to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Mobile_access#/talk. It shows clickable section headings and has an "Add discussion" button at the top, leading to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Mobile_access#/talk/new.
If I start at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Mobile_access and click "Mobile view" at the bottom then I get to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Mobile_access. It shows the whole talk page but appears to offer no way to start a new section. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:49, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. I might also have left scripts off while looking - in which case that button also doesn't appear. Might be worth mentioning in the help anyway, in case there are others like me. Wnt (talk) 10:10, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Trimming dated advice

This page needs to be accessible to a wider audience. I am going to remove apps and methods of accessing Wikipedia that are no longer functional or are superceded. In some cases that will include entire sections. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 23:43, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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