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    May 28

    Help with categories and assessment

    Can anyone suggest other categories for my article? William Bolton (post-captain) I have added a few since it first went up, and skim-read many pages on categories, but not sure what else to add to this one. And at what point does that template at the top of the article get removed?

    Also, according to the criteria listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_assessment, I think that this article must be at least C-Class by now? It might not be perfect, but I've assembled and summarised pretty much all info about this man that's available online. I could go into yet more detail about his earlier career, what was written about him in the long obit., etc. but then surely that would be heading towards "too much information for a minor historical figure"? At what point do articles get reassessed? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:24, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks again, Arch dude. I was also wondering whether I should create a small article about the other Captain William Bolton, active around the same time and often confused (see disambiguation page William Bolton) - or do you think the disambiguation page is enough? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 05:29, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    That's a tough call. If you can find enough sources, I think you should, even if he would not otherwise deserve an article. This applies the rule of reason (WP:IAR) instead of rigid adherence to policy. You might wish to justify this on the article's talk page, and if other editors disagree, ask them for a better way to handle the disambiguation. -Arch dude (talk) 06:42, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay - thanks once again, Arch dude. I'll have a go at it when I have time. (I don't know how you ever get on top of all of these rules and the various templates that lead to them!) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:21, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Undid an edit

    Someone named Melcous undid an edit in error: My edits updated entries to Albert Podell's bio info on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_by_number_of_countries_visited

    Podell just wrote to me: "albert podell <alpodell@email address To: David Smith May 27 at 9:01 PM (EDT) D I have no idea how Wikipedia works, although I do know they like sources so they can verify claims. 

    If you can reply to him or her, the reply should be that my book cites 196 because those are all the recognized countries in the world.and that is what the book was about.  I have also visited eleven de facto (but unrecognized) countries, same as the other people near the top of the  list, and can document this with photos, passport entries, and/or affidavits from people who accompanied me to  those entities."

    I wish to cancel the undo and to revert to what I entered originally, all, of course, according to your rules and protocol. Please advise.

    I am a first time editor.

    Thank you, David Smith U/N Sippewissett 01:57, 28 May 2018 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sippewissett (talk • contribs)

    Sorry Sippewissett, we are not a court of law and we don't accept personal statements or private documents in support of article content. The only "evidence" we recognize is what's been published in "reliable sources". Debates about what counts as a "country" for the purpose of that article should take place on the article's talk page: Noyster (talk), 10:56, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Jack Mundey

    Jack Mundey is currently the Patron of The Historic Houses Association of Australia. www.hha.net.au — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.18.95.103 (talk) 03:28, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Information added to our article on Jack Mundey, thank you: Noyster (talk), 11:06, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Request for help with article

    ZYN! (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Could someone please help in moving an article to the section 'Article for Deletion'? It is way too long ago since I wrote on Wiki (and have probs with all these lots of changes and no time for looking up each single editing-command). Request for deletion concerns the article /ZYN! that was an translated text from the German Wiki. The page is irrelevant, not well written and should be deleted. Thanks for help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whoever99 (talk • contribs) 11:39, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    @Whoever99:, I should first link yo to the Deletion policy. Within the deletion policy there is a provision for removing pages only edited by one editor after they make a request (called a Speedy Deletion), but 21 editors have contributed to that article, so your request would not be accepted. You can still nominate the page for a deletion discussion. If you want to proceed with that, consider these points and then follow the instructions given here. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 14:57, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Eggishorn:,Thank you for the instructions and effort. I will try out the steps you have described the next days.

    AT command ............

    iam working on a project.. that related to AT command .

    Iam stuck in recording, i have used many of the At command for recording

    Example : AT+QAUDRD and many of them i am getting an error — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.118.248.89 (talk) 12:20, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    If this is about the modem AT command, you might find something useful at Hayes command set, or failing that you could ask at the Computing section of the Reference Desk. If it is not, I have no idea what you are talking about. Either way, this question does not belong on this page, which is about editing Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 17:21, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    How to have an existing page properly edited - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Holding

    Hello Wikipedia

    I am a Zimbabwean novelist who writes under the name Ian Holding. A Wikipedia page on me exists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Holding) but there is a message on it which says "This biographical article is written like a résumé. Please help improve it by revising it to be neutral and encyclopedic. (January 2012)"

    Is there any way someone could correct this page so that it is more in keeping with the standards and expectations of other official Wikipedia pages? I would obviously like the page to be as correct and as objective as possible.

    With thanks, Ian Holding — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2C0F:F8F0:F252:0:9C86:2A41:8428:2807 (talk) 14:38, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, and thank you for asking your question. I should first point you to the Conflict of Interest Policy, which applies here. While I have no reason to doubt you are who you say you are, anyone on the Internet can claim to be one of the subjects of a Wikipedia article and we would have few ways of knowing if that's correct. My best advice is to create an account to facilitate communication and then use the Talk:Ian Holding talk page to propose any changes you feel are necessary. This prevents many issues that can cause difficulty for real-life subjects of one of our articles. Good luck. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:07, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I add a photo?

    I created the page "fractional currency shield" and would like to add a photo of a shield to the page. I would take the photo myself, and so there will be no copyright (and I waive such restrictions). How do I proceed? Lee Davis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lelandbclimber (talk • contribs) 14:40, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    @Lelandbclimber: You can upload your own work image from Common Upload Wizard. But make sure that your image must not be copyrighted. Thank you, Siddiqsazzad001 <Talk/> 15:33, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    There are already three pictures of fractional currency shields at Wikimedia Commons, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=fractional+currency+shield . You could use any of those. Maproom (talk) 15:38, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    list of countries visited

    claimants to most countries visited begin with the 193 UN member states and then are permitted to add dubious entities such as Antarctica, Wales, Palestine, Western Sahara, etc. What are the criteria, where is the cutoff? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sippewissett (talk • contribs) 15:43, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Assuming we’re talking about the article List of people by number of countries visited, it speaks at some length about the difficulties in determining such statistics. I would suggest that the talk page would be a good place to further discuss this with those who have an interest in this topic. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:54, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    A "bot" that is not working correctly.

    This question refers to the following Wikipedia article: Murder of Pam Basu. You can see the "View History of Edits" page (which I do not know how to link to). I have listed that article with the Category "murdered doctors". There is a "bot" that keeps changing it to "murdered physicians". I keep reverting the change. But, it keeps getting changed back. I assume that this is a "bot" and that these actions are being done automatically by the computer, without a real person doing them. (But I am not sure, since I don't really know how "bots" work.) In any event, the person in the article (Pam Basu) was a doctor, but not a physician. She was the "PhD" type of doctor, not the "medical/MD" type of doctor. So, the category "murdered doctors" is appropriate for that article, but the category "murdered physicians" is not. How does this problem get fixed? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:47, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Category:Murdered doctors is a redirect to Category:Murdered physicians, so the bot is correct and the article does not belong in either category. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 15:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pppery: Thanks. But, I have two questions. First: why does this article belong in neither category? I don't follow. Second: For the reasons I stated above, the word "doctor" and the word "physician" are not interchangeable. As I explained in my above example, a person can be a "doctor", yet not a "physician". So, the redirect is inappropriate and inaccurate, Thus, the "bot" is not working correctly. It may be working correctly from a computer/technical stand point. But, what I am saying is that the category "murdered doctors" should not be redirected to the category "murdered physicians" (for the reasons stated above). They are not one and the same. So, how does this problem get fixed? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:09, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    If you disagree on a category-level, WP:CFD is the place to discuss this. The bot is correct to change a category as long as the category is only a redirect and you should never manually undo such edits because it bloats the edit history without adding anything useful. Iff the category redirect is found to be faulty, the redirect can be removed and the category populated. Not before. Regards SoWhy 16:15, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Correction: Don't category redirects go to RFD not CFD? {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 16:18, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Depends. RFD makes sense if retargeting or deleting is the point. If one wants to turn a redirect into a category, imho it falls into the scope of WP:CFD. Either is fine probably. Regards SoWhy 16:23, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) It belongs in neither category because (a) Articles shouldn't be categorized in redirects and (b) The subject is not a murdered physician. Consider RFDing Category:Murdered doctors if you think that redirect shouldn't exist. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 16:17, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Addendum: In this case, though, Pppery is correct. We usually do not sort people by degree but by occupation (hence PhD = doctor is not the right characteristic to sort by). Since she was a chemist, Category:Murdered scientists is the right fit. I changed the article accordingly. Regards SoWhy 16:20, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! But she indeed (and in fact) was a doctor. That's the whole point here. Not a medical doctor. But, still, she was a doctor. And the category is called "murdered doctors" ... it is not called "murdered medical doctors". In any event, this issue needs to be fixed, somehow. So, I brought it here. I have no idea how to do an "RFD" or a "CFD" or such. I have no idea what those even mean. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:43, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    CFD stands for categories for discussion, the noticeboard to discuss changes to categories. She had a doctorate (PhD), yes, but per MOS:HON we don't include those in articles. As you might have noticed, there is no Category:People with PhD degrees or similar. That's because degrees are not a useful way to categorize people. If a reader is looking for chemists, they usually don't care whether the subject had/has a PhD or not since the defining characteristic is not the degree but the profession. See Wikipedia:Categorization of people for more details. Regards SoWhy 16:56, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:52, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:38, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Ottoman Empire

    Dear Sir ... We have noticed that the employees in your Arabic section have no neutrality at all in the articles they publish, as they move away from the scientific method and the truth by subtracting the subjects. For example, one of the articles about the Ottoman Empire, which clearly showed the writer's desire to defend one of the worst countries Throughout history, the radical Islamic ideas of the editor of the article have also emerged, in which he distanced himself from the most basic principles of Wikipedia, namely, the commitment to complete neutrality, not to attempt to put the writer's personal opinion or to promote any extremist political ideas. When we tried to draw their attention, They delated our comments with all bravery ... Please re-evaluate the performance of the staff in your Arab section — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.47.3.124 (talk) 17:49, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello and welcome, Ip user, but I'm afraid you seem to be fundamentally misunderstanding this site. Wikipedia has no "employees in the Arabic section". The owner of this site, the Wikimedia Foundation, has a small staff of about 300 people but none of them are responsible for creating the content on the Ottoman Empire or any other such article. The creators of content are volunteer editors and you can be one yourself. The project on the Arab world is also run by volunteers and you can join them. I suggest reading the Getting Started page if you want to contribute further. Unfortunately, I don't see any recent edits to the main Ottoman empire article or any other edits from this IP address that can tell me what problem you are having so I can't offer specific recommendations. Good luck. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:19, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    I read it that the IP user is talking about the Arabic Wikipedia, and specifically the article ar:الدولة العثمانية, which has indeed had recent edits. I'm afraid that different language Wikipedias are entirely separate projects, with no kind of influence or control over each other. You need to take your concerns to ar:نقاش:الدولة العثمانية, and if you can't get satisfaction there, to ar:ويكيبيديا:بوابة المشاركة. --ColinFine (talk) 19:00, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @ColinFine:, I'm impressed you were able to find that. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:46, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Eggishorn:, I just went to Ottoman Empire and picked Arabic from the sidebar. --ColinFine (talk) 16:31, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    page formatting error

    I have been editing/updating the episode descriptions on the following page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Affair_episodes#Episodes

    Something has gone wrong in the formatting of this page and I cannot figure out what. The Season 1 episodes are now showing in Season 2 and episode 10 for Season 1 is not visible at all - but all information is there when you go into EDIT mode. I need help with fixing it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kihill33 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed.Naraht (talk) 18:25, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    The scientist Coldplay

    Yes Martinevans123 I have a question why did you delete the genre this song was Alternative rock, soft rock and country rock because in the song the guitar riff was similar by Johnny Cash and George Harrison and give me a chance for you to put it back and I won’t changing things bad again thank you for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ser-rod-7 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Ser-rod-7. You have edited The Scientist (song) at least six times to add a genre, and two different editors (Bowling is life and Martinevans123 have repeatedly removed it, and explained to you in edit summaries, in a comment in the source, and on your user talk page, that you need a published source for the information. All of you are edit warring, and need to stop and discuss it on the article's talk page. (I am making no statement about whether you are right or wrong, just about your behaviour).
    However, as a matter of Wikipedia policy, Bowling and Martinevans are correct. Please understand that Wikipedia has no interest at all in what you, or I, or any random person on the Internet, knows or thinks or believes. Whatever it is it doesn't belong in a Wikipedia article unless somebody has said it in a reliable published source. Please see verifiability. Your arguments why the particular genre applies are an example of WP:original research, which is strictly forbidden in Wikipedia.
    If you can find a published reference that classifies that song into a genre, then it can go into the article. Otherwise it should not. --ColinFine (talk) 19:19, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    No Martinevans123 I’m not wrong I’m right I’m not in the mood of being wrong I wasn’t behaving wrong or bad I was trying to fix everything back the way it was but you won’t understand and listen the way I explain it’s the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ser-rod-7 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm assuming you're talking about this? As was stated in the article source, and in the edit summaries of the reversions, you need reliable sources to back up the addition of genres. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? )
    <ec>@Ser-rod-7:, first, ColinFine replied to you here, not Martinevans123. Second, do not start a new section to reply to an ongoing discussion. Third, sign your posts, which you can do just by typing a row of four tilde characters (~~~~) at the end of your posts. Fourth, you should know that no-one cares if you think you're right, read the No Original Research policy for the reasons why. Fifth, others editors will find it hard take you seriously in discussions if everything you type is a garbled mass as if you are texting or tweeting to us. I hope this helps explain some things. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:44, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Following merged from later thread
    • Well sir with all due respect you think I was the one who violated the edit I was not violating bad I was fixing it my perfect song of Coldplay the scientist I was putting the genre Alternative rock, soft rock and country rock because it had a same guitar riff as Johnny Cash and George Harrison.
    • But I’m not doing things bad or wrong I’m doing things good not violated or something else just doing things good I see everyone else just edit theirs except me.
    • Give me a chance so if you have any questions about my band of Coldplay and my song the scientist just go to Wikipedia help desk if you had any questions
    @Ser-rod-7: Again, do not start a new section to post a reply and please sign your posts. Due to problems with editors disagreeing over genres, all such things have to be referenced to a reliable source. What you think about a song is of no import to Wikipedia. Any additions without a source or which are an opinion are very likely to be removed. What do you mean by "my band" and "my song"? Eagleash (talk) 23:13, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    The scientist Coldplay

    You know what how about I can just answer to the ceo of Wikipedia to tell him that you won’t believe me about what I said it right about fixing the genre of Coldplay the scientist their song and now I’m just gonna answer it right now because this was my first day first time signing this Wikipedia website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ser-rod-7 (talk • contribs) 00:22, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Prevent edit source auto launch

    Tracked in Phabricator
    Task T195914

    I posted this on Village pump's technical page, but never received any assistance. During the Twinkle rollback bug issue I reset all my settings. Now when I rollback and go to warn the User, the User TalkPage automatically launches in edit source mode and not the static (read) mode I am used to. This also happens when I click on non-existant pages/redlinks. Any way to prevent this? Thanks in advance for any help. Please ping me as I don't watch pages. Best, Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 19:08, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Classicwiki, I'm not sure but it sounds like a bug. Have you tried Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests? Thinker78 (talk) 19:57, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Thinker78, I thought about it but it doesn't seem like anyone else is having this problem so I thought it might be unique to my settings? Like I accidentally checked a preference after resetting. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 21:05, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Classicwiki It doesn't matter if no one else has the problem. In Phabricator you are even supposed to check if someone else has reported the same problem before posting it. So if you think it's a bug report it there. Thinker78 (talk) 23:20, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Classicwiki, I haven't had that exact problem, but recently I've frequently had the annoyance that when I return to a tab with Wikipedia open in my browser, and hit F5, it reloads the page in edit mode. It hasn't been quite annoying enough for me to investigate it or even go to VPT, but it sounds as if it might be related to your problem. --ColinFine (talk) 08:39, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    ColinFine and Thinker78, I have posted the issue to Phabricator. I couldn't find anyone reporting the same problem, although my keywords could have been off target. I'll update if I hear anything. Thanks again. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 20:14, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Helpful Changes Are Being Reverted

    Hello there. So a few minutes ago I was trying to update the draft for Descendants 3. Their was an announcement made a week ago about the final additions to the cast. So I was trying to add that information to the article and even cite a reference to the announcement. But people keep telling me my additions are disruptive and vandalism. What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZoeeTalksALot (talk • contribs) 20:47, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]


    May 29

    Gledhow Hall

    Could this page have this category added at the bottom please - "List of British artists". Thanks 110.147.205.88 (talk) 00:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Can you explain why you think this would be appropriate? Gledhow Hall is a building, not an artist, so why should it be included in a list of artists? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.26.63 (talk) 06:08, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    I think that because the painting by Turner of Gledhow Hall is well- known. Therefore, the category should be at the bottom of the pages. Certainly the category Peers and/or The Peerage should be added ad a category. Thanks 175.33.22.145 (talk) 06:37, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    No, if you look at our page about Categorization you will see that articles are put in categories according to the essential—defining—characteristics of [the] topic – not according to anything mentioned in the article that has some sort of association with the topic of the article. So Gledhow Hall belongs only in categories about buildings, not categories about people who used to own it or paintings that hang there. Readers wanting to know more about Turner may follow the wikilink to our article about Turner, and that article is categorized into Category:English landscape painters, Category:British marine artists, and others: Noyster (talk), 10:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't find problematic displaytitle

    The bottom of our Blenden Hall article has a routine red warning:

    Warning: Display title "<i>Blenden Hall</i>" overrides earlier display title "Blenden Hall".

    Problem is, the article has no {{DISPLAYTITLE}} coding. I suppose an infobox provides DISPLAYTITLE, but the name appears only once in the infobox coding, and it's seemingly identical to what the page title should be. And finally, un-italicising Blenden Hall in the first infobox doesn't work; if you preview, you see that the name is wrongly romanised in the infobox, and the warning's still visible at the bottom of the page. So, how does this get fixed?

    Nyttend (talk) 02:37, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    I guess Trappist the monk corrected it in this diff. 04:40, 29 May 2018 (UTC) Lourdes[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

    I was a close friend of Grace McNeil's Daughter all is personal observations and talking to the family. while some of the information can be found in references. The other needs to be passed on to responsible researchers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhbbooks (talk • contribs) 03:46, May 29, 2018 (UTC)

    Hello. If your query is about the article Scarlett O'Hara where you may be trying to insert personal observations, please note that content in Wikipedia articles should be based on verifiable content than on personal observations. Please give a read to our editing policy to understand this better. Write back if you need more assistance. Thanks, 04:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC) Lourdes[reply]
    • Sadly, Wikipedia has no way to pass your observations on to researchers. We don't have researchers of our own, and we have no mechanism for incorporation of original research into Wikipedia. It would be great if we could establish a research sister project, or an information exchange to which researchers can subscribe, but that is not what we are or what we do. I find this frustrating, and so do many well-meaning newcomers such as yourself. -Arch dude (talk) 05:10, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    My edit was reverted despite references provided.

    Please help me with the contributions I made yesterday to the Personal life section in the profile of Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson. My edit and updating of information was allowed yesterday, whereas upon checking right now I noticed the section has gone back to being what it was before the edit. I have not received any notification of any problems. What has happened? Please let me know? UditaCh (talk) 05:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    UditaCh, perhaps you missed the edit summary to the reverting edit? Hrodvarsson reverted because you used primary sources, which amounts to original research and violates the biographies of living persons policy. Please read the links to avoid future errors Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    [Edit Conflict] If you go to the article and click on the "View history" tab at top right, you will see at or near the top of the (long) list of all edits ever made to the page (since its creation on 12 August 2010) that, late last night, User:Hrodvarsson reverted the article to a previous version (before your numerous and sizeable additions) for the reason he gave in his edit summary – "Reverted to revision 842447064 by 150.116.121.173: A lot of this is unacceptable due to primary sourcing and violations of the biographies of living persons policy.", but goes on to say "I will restore the relevant information and sources in a short while."
    Your edits were initially "allowed" because they go live as soon as you click the "Publish Change" button. Now another editor has had time to look at them and has (partially) disagreed with them because (he asserts, doubtless correctly) that they violated certain rules and policies that we follow, and need to be brought in line with them as far as possible, which he has said that he will do. (Please remember that we are all volunteers who edit Wikipedia as a hobby from our own individual premises, not a co-ordinated team of professionals!) If he had been strictly punctilious, he might have "pinged" you or posted on your User talk page about this, but he may have been pressed for time (or in need of sleep!) after his urgent action (violations of BLP policy require speedy rectification), and in any case you have quickly noticed the situation.
    The appropriate place to continue discussion of these edits is the "Talk" tab of the article: you could also query Hrodvarsson on his own talk page, or he could post on yours, but this would tend to exclude any other editors who might wish to contribute to the discussions.
    All this is the normal process of collaborative editing by which articles are modified (or not). As to Hrodvarsson's initial objections to the form of your edits, you might like to read Wikipedia:BLP and Wikipedia:Primary. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195}
    Hi UditaCh I believe Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson is the targeted page you mentioned above. You have added many primary source from Instagram, Facebook, YouTube regarding an allegation of domestic violent complained by Björnsson's ex partner. Please note that content added a page regarding biography of a living person needs to support by independent, reliable source. Secondly, a living person accused of a crime is presumed not guilty unless a conviction is secure by a court, for such it would be best to leave out the content when no conviction is made by court.Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:58, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Firefox becomes slow and unresponsive when I edit some articles

    It usually happens when I edit large articles but could happen for medium and small articles too. Any solution? --Wario-Man (talk) 07:56, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Does it happen if you log out and edit the same article? Do you have other open tabs in Firefox? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:14, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Pinging @Wario-Man: for response. JTP (talk • contribs) 14:51, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    It's random but when I have multiple tabs with opened WP pages and then I decide to edit one of them, the mentioned problem occurs more than the other times. Could be related to my FF add-ons or WP scripts? --Wario-Man (talk) 19:26, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Wario-Man: I don't think it is the problem of WP scripts. Maybe firefox browser. Please give me your pc information. Sometime its happen for Ram uses too many CPU resources or Unresponsive script prompt. You can see Firefox Help support. Thank you, Siddiqsazzad001 <Talk/> 20:02, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, thanks for the help. --Wario-Man (talk) 09:40, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    2018 United States child abduction scandal

    I'm sure if this were going on in any other country, Wikipedia would have an article with a title similar to that one, but I can't for the life of me find any information about this ongoing event on Wikipedia. I assume there is an article, given the amount of media coverage. Can someone enlighten me as to what euphemism is being used to refer to it? Thanks 185.24.236.18 (talk) 08:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Immigration policy of Donald Trump or List of federal political scandals in the United States? TeraTIX 08:46, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Library technician

    2 Problems - Are the subheadings the correct size font and is reference number 2 done correctly? Please assist me if you can. Thankyou. 175.33.22.145 (talk) 09:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Main section headings should be shown as "Level 2" headings, like this ==Section heading== and subsections within the sections as Level 3, like this ===Subsection===. Our Cheatsheet is a handy guide to the most frequently used forms of Wiki markup. The book ref looks fine to me, though the article as a whole could do with a few more references. Oh, and we didn't need "Librarian" in the See also section, as the word is already linked in the text of the article: Noyster (talk), 10:35, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    It might also be an idea to create a lead section, providing a brief summary of the topic. If you do this and add some level 2 section headings, it will also create a table of contents which makes the page easier to read or navigate. As It stands there is quite a large amount of text before the first 'natural break'. Eagleash (talk) 10:41, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Gledhow Hall

    I am embarassed. I am on a small phone and tried to edit but wiped out the top of the above page. Please fix sorry175.33.22.145 (talk) 11:28, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    I have reverted the edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Changing an Image

    Hello,

    I'd like to change the image of "Ovum". Here is the Page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovum_Ltd.

    The image indicated on this page is the old Ovum logo. I'd like to replace it with the actual logo but I am unable to do so.

    Here is the Ovum Ltd home page - https://ovum.informa.com/

    As you can see, the Logo is different.

    Could the image please be changed to the actual Logo?

    Kind regards, Gabriel Gabraad (talk) 14:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

     Done I uploaded it to File:Ovum Logo.png. I'm not sure if it still meets to qualifications for "simple shapes" for Commons, so I uploaded it on Wikipedia. CTF83! 16:41, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Notability question

    Hi, I was wondering if there is a place to go where I can ask if a topic is notable enough before creating the article. I don't exactly want to put effort into writing an article if it will simply be deleted. <RetroCraft314 talk/> 21:02, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    • Each contributor makes a notability decision based on the guidelines at WP:NOTABLE. Basically, you need to find "multiple reliable sources" as we define them at WP:RS. If you have found sources but are unsure if they suffice, create a draft with a one-line assertion of notability and add your references, then go ask for an assessment of this "hyper-stub" article before actually filling out the article. (Now, I will wander away and figure out where you should ask, but if all else fails come back here...)-Arch dude (talk) 22:42, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Hugo Grenier

    Can anyone help me I feel like im losing my mind, haha. I was editing the page of Hugo Grenier and the doubles finals he’s won appear on the preview and can be edited but then they seem to have disappeared now the page is saved. Have I done something silly? Hildreth gazzard (talk) 20:22, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Wrong photo on my wikipedia page

    How do I change the head shot on my wikipedia page? Here's the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Gallagher

    I uploaded my head shot:

    Kathleen Gallagher

    But can't figure out how to get my real head shot on my pageKathleengall (talk) 23:31, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    The page is using a tformat for the infobox I’ve not seen myself before either, but I took a shot at adding an image parameter and linking to the new image and that seems to have done it. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Kathleengall: At the time of your post the article automatically used the image in the Wikidata item Kathleen Gallagher (Q20020503). I have changed that image to the one you uploaded. But Beeblebrox had already changed the article to override Wikidata and use the new image anyway. I have also added your image to commons:Category:Kathleen Gallagher to help others find it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:50, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathleengall (talk • contribs) 02:42, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    May 30

    Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

    RE - the info box at the top of the page - should it have the title "Capt." for Peter Middleton - we are not sure and it is hard to change from our device. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 00:08, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Srbernadette, who are you referring to by "we" and "our" in your statements "we are not sure" and "from our device"? I_0urclc5 04:25, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Myself and students here at Hallam S. College, Australia. Sorry for any confusion. Srbernadette (talk) 04:47, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. Much appreciated. Warmly, 10:36, 30 May 2018 (UTC) Lourdes
    I've removed the "Capt." title. However, in the future, you can take up such querieson the talk page of the relevant articles. Lourdes 14:16, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

    Company informational article

    Hi, I would like to know if I can write an informational article about a startup — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cnrmadureira (talk • contribs) 00:48, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    I need assistance aligning a barnstar on my userpage

    It seems I have difficulty finding the exact coding to make an award I received, horizontally to fit correctly on my user page. Any assistance in "verticalizing" it

    The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
    In appreciation of all your high quality work on Pakistan-related articles on Wikipedia that I have come across since 2012. I realize you are an experienced editor and have been active for many years. I have nothing but respect for all your work. Thanks and Best Regards Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:25, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by NadirAli (talk • contribs) 02:42, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

    I've "verticalised" it. But the new design, honestly, sucks. Your choice surely; I would have preferred the standard horizontal one. I_0urclc5 04:37, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    To editor Lourdes:, thank you very much. I am wondering from your comment, do you know how to make it horizontal? As in aligned equally. I wouldn't mind trying that one either. Thank you very much, this is very helpful.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 05:30, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

    I am worried that I should not have removed the top "re-directing" line from this page. Please repair. Srbernadette (talk) 04:43, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

     Fixed TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:46, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi,

    Thank you for updating the Ovum Logo on this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovum_Ltd.

    Although up to date, the current image is pixelated and has a grey background.

    Could you please use this picture instead as the logo? - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ovum+logo&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB773GB774&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikpZTMia3bAhUIAsAKHR_5D_8Q_AUICigB&biw=1922&bih=976#imgrc=HhC-XjmXvtImCM:

    If this doesn't work try this link: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ovum+logo&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB773GB774&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikpZTMia3bAhUIAsAKHR_5D_8Q_AUICigB&biw=1922&bih=976#imgrc=wDbfA_6Z5V4F8M:

    Thank you, Gabriel Gabraad (talk) 09:12, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    The 'Walter Conway' page

    How can I delete the 'Cite error' references? John Desmond (talk) 11:20, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    In the error messages the words "help page" are in blue, indicating that they are wikilinks, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:30, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    You might restore the original reference definitions that you deleted with this edit.
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:37, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Pic usage

    A wrestling company is using a photo I took and uploaded to Wikipedia without my permission in promotional materials and flyers. Is this allowed per the rights assigned to the image? Do I or Wikipedia have any recourse? --Endlessdan (talk) 15:13, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    @Endlessdan: You released the image under the creative commons license: [1]. It allows for reuse provided that the image is attributed to you. RudolfRed (talk) 15:22, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @RudolfRed: I did not receive any attribution for the image.--Endlessdan (talk) 15:25, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    The copyright on that image belongs to you, not to Wikipedia. Therefore Wikipedia has no recourse. You have recourse, but that's between you and the offending company. I recommend a polite communication asking them about their copyright policy -Arch dude (talk) 16:10, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    The Creative Commons FAQ has some information on what to do if someone violates the terms of a Creative Commons license. As Arch dude says, getting in contact with the offending organization is the best first step. The lack of attribution may have simply been an oversight that they're willing to fix. Creative Commons also maintains a list of lawyers who can advise people in Creative Commons related matters, though Creative Commons itself doesn't offer legal advice and neither does Wikipedia. clpo13(talk) 16:46, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    How to spot astroturfing?

    Before I edit articles on businesses or major software products, how do I spot astroturfing within products, or paid editing? I don't know if there's a relevant policy page on astroturfing, but it'd be good to know. --Chelston-temp-1 (talk) 16:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    • Our policy is at WP:PAID. A paid editor must declare this to adhere to the site's terms of service. Spotting this is not precisely our goal. Our goal is to make sure all articles have a notable subject (WP:NOTABLE) and maintain a neutral point of view (WP:NPOV). Basically as a editor if you see stuff that doesn't seem neutral to you, then fix it. -Arch dude (talk) 17:22, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

    @Dannshort42: This is your only edit. Which article has the reference error? RudolfRed (talk) 18:08, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Sometimes I like to search the ref desk archives for questions I contributed to. I use the search box at WP:RD and it produces the search string of "RudolfRed prefix:Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives". Some of the results are in the Lua archives. For example: Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Lua/Computing/January_2013. The Lua results don't interest me. I know I can just ignore them, but I am interested to know if there is a way to exclude them from the search results? RudolfRed (talk) 18:30, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    New version to upload for image file

    Re: File:Winchester Virginia Seal.jpg

    The City of Winchester has provided me with the modified version of their seal. I tried to upload the new image to the file with no success. Thanks. Hoppyh (talk) 18:31, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    As I can see you successfully uploaded this new version to File:Winchester_Virginia_Seal.jpg. Ruslik_Zero 20:35, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks...I guess there was a delay in the update of the file. See Winchester, Virginia—Is there a delay on the update of the link in the infobox of the city’s article? Hoppyh (talk) 20:56, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hoppyh: looks like the updated image appears in the article now. In the future, if you see a delay in article content being updated (particularly with images), you can try to purge the page's cache on the server and force the most recent version to appear. clpo13(talk) 20:59, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    I did a purge...the old seal is still in the infobox. Thanks again. Hoppyh (talk) 21:08, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Bulleted list overlapping image

    At Angels_Flight#Evaluation, the bulleted list overlaps the thumbnail image on teh left. I remember at some point coming across a solution that would allow a bulleted list to correctly appear alongside a thumbnail image, but I can't find it now. Anyone remember how to fix this? --Ahecht (TALK
    PAGE    ) 18:40, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Figured it out. It was {{flowlist}} that I was looking for. --Ahecht (TALK
    PAGE    ) 19:16, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    List of number-one hits (Germany)

    Hello, I am currently reworking the list List of number-one hits (Germany) and for whatever reason everything get's small after I use the Template:Hidden. If you compare the size of the words in the sections "Artist with the most number-one hits" and "Songs with the most weeks at number-one", you'll see that I mean. Anybody who can help me with this issue?--Lirim | T 18:53, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed. If you use {{div col}}, you need to end it with a {{div col end}}. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 19:00, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Is there a plagiarism check bot?

    Hello, unfortunately it seems that most of the article Medical sociology has been copy/pasted from a few text books. I've identified the two main sources on the talk page of the article. Most of the this content is from an IP address. I'm willing to add replacement content but I'm wondering if there is a plagiarism bot that can delete the copy/pasted material. I 'm afraid very little of the article's body is not copy/pasted. AugusteBlanqui (talk) 20:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    @AugusteBlanqui: There is User:CorenSearchBot, but apparently it is not active. I'm not sure if there are any others like it. RudolfRed (talk) 20:51, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Most of the copyright problems at Wikipedia:Copyright problems are found by a bot, while the rest are manually reported. You can report your finding there if you do not wish to take action yourself. An article with substantially no non-violating content should be replaced in its entirety with a specific template: see Wikipedia:Copyright violations. This follows our agressive policy to adhere to copyright law. Do first check that the textbook did not copy from Wikipedia in the first place: this has been known to happen. -Arch dude (talk) 21:02, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, I followed the instructions at Wikipedia:Copyright violations. I blanked the page, based on your evaluation that the copying was extensive and there was nothing salvageable. If you want to see the text to attempt to rescue some of it, please use the previous version, but ensure that you do not propagate the error. I placed the templates and listed the article, so the usual copyvio volunteers can handle it from there, I hope. I have never actually done this before, so we will find out. We need then to get involved because someone with admin rights must delete all the old revisions if we do a salvage. -Arch dude (talk) 02:31, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    May 31

    Help with Images - Commons and Person Infobox

    Hi There! I am a brand new editor (as of today) and I am editing a page on a volunteer basis. My first task is to replace an image in a Person Infobox. I decided to start off in my Sandbox and was able to upload the picture as a test for myself, but in the process ended up actually posting the picture to Commons when I wasn't ready, and the file name is wrong. Also, in the Infobox I really can't figure out how to replace an image. This leads me to questions: 1 - What is the easiest way to update/change an image in a Person Infobox? 2 - How can I delete, replace, or rename an image on Commons?

    Please excuse any terms I might be describing incorrectly - I just started this a few hours ago!

    Thanks in advance.

    Angela — Preceding unsigned comment added by ADLangille (talk • contribs) 00:44, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Asked and answered at the Teahouse. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:14, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Pavle Stanimirović

    Why was this important page earased ? What is the possible reason behind this madness this person is 100% a genuine notable person that is also a notable criminal that was sentenced and convicted by the State of NY and Fed's. He is an owner of multiple night clubs and notable Reastaurant in NYC and he is known in the Famed Jewlery 47 Street as he owned Gem Stones Trading Gallery International . He has numerous of interviews and he is in the book Betrayal in Blue as a authority on true crime and a gentleman thief. Please explain in detail and what can be done ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chateaux Margo (talk • contribs) 01:59, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Chateaux Margo. Pavle Stanimirovic was deleted after a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pavle Stanimirovic Unless you can provide significantly better sources then were in the previously deleted version, and were mentioned in the discussion, an article will not be created. You could create Draft:Pavle Stanimirovic using the article wizard and try to lay out improved sources, and a more neutral article, but I am doubtful that it would succeed. To have a chance you would need multiple Reliable sources that are published and independent of Stanimirovic, and discuss him in some detail. Note that interviews are not considered independant, nor are blogs normally reliable sources. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:22, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Potternewton

    Please help Ref number 19 has the dates in red - what is wrong? and I could not get a PUBLISHER for ref number 20. Please repair if able. Thanks 175.33.22.145 (talk) 09:54, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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