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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
February 28 1
March 14 1
March 19 1
March 25 1 1
March 30 1
April 5 1
April 14 2
April 15 2 1
April 16 2 2
April 17 2 1
April 18 4 4
April 19 3 1
April 20 3 2
April 21 5 2
April 22 3 2
April 23 4 4
April 24 10 8
April 25 7 2
April 26 10 4
April 27 11 6
April 28 12 8
April 29 10 4
April 30 15 7
May 1 11 6
May 2 8 2
May 3 7 5
May 4 8 5
May 5 10 4
May 6 10 6
May 7 10 6
May 8 9 3
May 9 7 2
May 10 10 6
May 11 5 1
May 12 1
Total 207 105
Last updated 09:32, 12 May 2024 UTC
Current time is 11:25, 12 May 2024 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the supplementary guidelines.

Nominate an article

Frequently asked questions

How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Instructions for reviewers

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures

How to promote an accepted hook

At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on February 28

Articles created/expanded on March 12

Articles created/expanded on March 14

Descendants of Christian IX of Denmark

Christian IX with various children and grandchildren at Fredensborg Palace. Specific subjects are identified here.
Christian IX with various children and grandchildren at Fredensborg Palace. Specific subjects are identified here.

The executed Nicholas II of Russia. The queen that never set foot in her country, Alexandra of Yugoslavia. Accomplished Olympian Constantine II of Greece. The last king of the Congo, Baudouin of Belgium. An heir forging his 21st-century path, William, Prince of Wales. What do all of these people have in common (besides being royals)? They can claim descent from the Father-in-law of Europe, Christian IX of Denmark!

If this DYK is approved, readers will be enticed to learn about how the royal families of Europe are biological relatives to a closer extent than some may think! Created by AndrewPeterT (talk). Self-nominated at 03:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.



@AndrewPeterT: Hi, there! I will be reviewing this Did You Know nomination. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 23:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK eligibility scan results: (See here for details.)

  • Prose size (text only): 7669 characters (1201 words) "readable prose size"
  • Article created by AndrewPeterT on March 9, 2024
  • Article moved from Draft:Descendants of Christian IX of Denmark on March 14, 2024
  • Article has not been expanded 5x since it was created
  • Article has not been created or expanded 5x or promoted to Good Article within the past 10 days (27 days) DYKcheck does not account for previous versions with splits or copyright violations.


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Yes Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


@AndrewPeterT: Well done for nominating this article, a topic that is of great interest to me. The hook I prefer is ALT0. As you'd know, there are a few criteria for DYK:

  • This article was moved into the mainspace on 14 March and nominated on 18 March. Therefore, it is new enough.
  • My immediate primary concern for this article was the overwhelming amount of tables in its use. However, good use of background information for each child ensures that there are around 6800-6900 characters of original prose. This makes the article long enough.
  • These hooks, of which I prefer ALT0, are adequately sources, so there do exist cited hooks.
  • As you have less than five DYK nominations, there is no quid pro quo required.
  • Finally, the article's prose is well cited. Information within some tables, however, is not. Though it is clear that effort has been made to source information in some tables, some tables lack sourcing entirely. I am not too concerned with lack of sources for their birth and death dates as that can be found on their respective articles, but it is moreso their children. For example, three of Princess Alexandra of Hanover and Cumberland's children lack sources.
  • The article has good spelling and grammar. There are a few fixes that could be made:
    • "would go on to have" ➜ "had"
    • "would go on to fight" ➜ "fought"
    • "would go on long sea voyages..." ➜ "went on long sea voyages..."
    • "Also, Alexandra and Edward's eldest..." ➜ "Additionally [or Furthermore, Moreover, etc.], Alexandra and Edward's eldest..."
    • After addressing him, he no longer needs to be repeatedly called "George I", he can just be called "George". Same goes for anyone else with ordinals. If it is a new paragraph, feel free to restate the ordinal. I would suggest however, you write "Christian IX" instead of "Christian" the whole time.
    • "Dagmar took the name Maria Feodorovna" ➜ "Dagmar took the name "Maria Feodorovna"". Italics not needed here. Quotation marks around her name is optional and up to you.
    • "Moreover, both Nicholas and Michael were killed during the Russian Revolution." ➜ "Moreover, both Nicholas and Michael, along with Nicholas's five children, were killed during the Russian Revolution." Yes, only talking about the children are being talked about, but it is best to include them as they were also closely-related relatives who also died as a result of the Revolution.
    • In the ALT0 hook, I would change it from "the parents to" ➜ "the parents of".

So, in summary, all that needs to be addressed is the sourcing within tables and a few spelling and grammar mistakes. I am also a bit concerned with the amount of WP:WHITESPACE. If this can't be fixed, it is not too much of a concern. Please let me know if you need any assistance or clarification. I hope this helps and I look forward to hopefully having this in DYK. Thanks. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Therealscorp1an: Thank you very much for your detailed evaluation and feedback. I have no objections to the ALT0 hook being used on the Main Page. Could you please let me know when I should make the suggested changes? As you noted, I am still in the process of citing some of the information in the tables. AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 02:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AndrewPeterT: As soon as possible. The quicker these are addressed, the quicker we can place it on DYK. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 04:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All suggested spelling and grammar corrections have been made. I am prioritizing citing sources for the great-grandchildren of Christian IX and Louise. AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 04:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AndrewPeterT: Great job. There's one other thing I would change. In the caption of the photo that will be used for the hook, I would change "Christian IX with various children and grandchildren at Fredensborg Palace." to "1886 portrait of Christian IX and his family by Laurits Tuxen." It's best the artist is probably credited. Also, in the actual article, in order to aleviate some of the WP:WHITESPACE, I would remove the two protraits of Christian IX and Louise in the background section as there are paintings of them given in the table below so. Once you're done sourcing the table information, please let me know! - Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Therealscorp1an: Have your concerns been assuaged? (Big dislike, incidentally, on the use of section headers within a review, as they make T:TDYK's table of contents look angin.)--Launchballer 09:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let's check. @AndrewPeterT: Have the references been complete? - Therealscorp1an (talk) 22:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: and @Therealscorp1an:: I still have two more tables to find references for. I should be able to have all references ready by 2359 UTC tomorrow (May 2) on May 3 on May 5. AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 00:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC); edited 21:30, 2 May 2024 (UTC) and 22:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Therealscorp1an: Thank you very much for being so accommodating as I found references for all of the information in the tables. I have cited everything to the extent possible (Please note that I was unable to find reliable sources for some lifespan dates). Would you please be able to review the article and let me know if I should make further modifications with the sourcing? AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 21:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The lifespan dates should be sourced, and if the snippets of Google search results are anything to go by, shouldn't be too difficult to source.--Launchballer 14:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b "Queen Louise". Amalienborg Palace. Retrieved March 17, 2024.
  2. ^ "The History of Denmark 1875-1900". Amalienborg Palace. Retrieved March 17, 2024.
  3. ^ "Christian IX". Royal Palaces. National Museum of Denmark. Retrieved March 17, 2024.

Articles created/expanded on March 19

Centurion C-RAM

C-RAM test firing at night
C-RAM test firing at night
    • Reviewed: [[]]
Created by Geardona (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

(Ping me) Geardona (talk to me?) 04:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I've watchlisted the article's talk page and will review this when it's kept.--Launchballer 10:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is not a full review, but the article is currently a stub and fails the WP:DYKCOMPLETE criteria. One of the reasons it is at WP:MERGEPROP is because the topic of the article is already covered more thoroughly at Phalanx CIWS#Centurion C-RAM. I think we would need to see the article significantly expanded in order to feature it at DYK. If content is merged from the Phalanx CIWS to the Centurion C-RAM article, I would argue that this isn't even a "new article". And we would need to see a 5x expansion from the prose size of the original section on this topic in the Phalanx CIWS article to feature it at DYK.4meter4 (talk) 16:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, at the point it was nominated it was rated C-class, no opinion on the rating change. As for the newness, it was a new article (moved from sandbox) when I nominated it, and it seemed to me that would be acceptable as 'new' under DYK policy, I don't see anything about splits in the DYK criteria. Thank you, Geardona (talk to me?) 13:31, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Expanding now that it has survived, I think that a split of an article (especially given that the content is completely different) should be considered new, as mot other notable articles are mentioned at other places. I am not sure, but plan on trying to expand it to GA levels in the future (summer break) so if it is not that would be ok with me.Geardona (talk to me?) 23:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did say I would review this, and I will do so in the morning.--Launchballer 01:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Long enough, new enough. I can't see where in the source it says that the C-RAM was specifically developed to intercept mortar shells, although perhaps I'm being blind, and ALT0 is more interesting anyway. No maintenance templates deserved and QPQ unnecessary. I am not happy with that level of whitespace in the article, please do something about this, and I've just cleared out no fewer than seven typos, please verify there are no more. Also, "Ukraine has not acquired any units yet but is negotiating with the United States to receive them" will date, and should be attributed.--Launchballer 11:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Fixed typo stuff, embarrassed about that. That might not be the best source for it, I can get another one from the article if needed. Where specifically is there whitespace? Attributed and dated.Geardona (talk to me?) 16:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To the right of the table, which I recommend converting to prose anyway, and above Experimental versions.--Launchballer 16:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on March 24

Articles created/expanded on March 25

Hal Malchow

  • ... that Hal Malchow briefly worked as a securities lawyer, but left because writing contracts defending against fraud was more boring than scheming them? Source: Issenberg, Sasha (2013). The Victory Lab: The Secret Science of Winning Campaigns. ISBN 9780307954800. p. 2: "except for a brief detour into securities law that ended when he realized that writing the contracts to guard against complex financial schemes was less fun than trying to hatch them."
    • ALT1: ... that Hal Malchow was detained in a Lima, Peru, airport because he was accused of smuggling cocaine in his arm cast? Source: "Three Americans held in Peru pending drug investigation outcome". The Greenville News. Vol. 113, no. 25. AP News. January 25, 1987. p. 3A.
    • Reviewed:
Created by SWinxy (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

SWinxy (talk) 23:25, 25 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Will be reviewing this one... el.ziade (talkallam) 11:54, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I did some more searching for some minor biographical facts and came back with a news clipping saying that was too good to pass up. Added as an alt. SWinxy (talk) 05:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article presents a comprehensive overview of Malchow's life, career, and contributions to political consulting, and meets the newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, and copyvio-free criteria. Offline sources were accepted in good faith. he article and hook meet all the required criteria for inclusion in the DYK section of Wikipedia, with no subjective issues identified. el.ziade (talkallam) 09:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • unpromoted per Special:Diff/1219998585 RoySmith (talk) 13:07, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Striking ALT1 due to WP:BLP issues; original hook struck because "scheming them" is confusing given the context: what does scheming a contract even mean? Please propose a new hook. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:43, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • I strongly disagree with you that ALT1 is "negative" and a BLP issue. The wording is clear that he was accused, not convicted, of smuggling cocaine. It plainly does not violate BLP because it's sourced to the Associated Press, considered generally reliable at WP:RSP. Being accused of smuggling narcotics in an arm cast is unusual, quirky, absurd. ALT1 can be modified slightly to say that Malchow "was once detained" to lessen a perception that crime is Malchow's MO. But I find it odd to read it this way. SWinxy (talk) 18:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • SWinxy, it isn't just me: the consensus I'm seeing in the WT:DYK thread is that ALT1 is both negative and a BLP issue. "Accused" and "detained" both sound bad, and to add "once" would simply be read by most people that it happened in the past, not that it happened to him only once in his life: either way, he's painted as a drug smuggler on Wikipedia's front page. I strongly advise you to come up with an ALT2 that features a different set of facts, since ALT1—though you clearly like it—isn't going to be accepted at DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • The two concurring with you made their replies before I addressed your claim of it being a BLP issue. It's unfair to mark "consensus!" at the time right before I made my rebuttal to allow my point to be considered, and without responding directly to the rebuttal of the argument you made. I liked it and think it's interesting, yeah. el.ziade seemed to think so too in approving it, PrimalMustelid promoted it, and RoySmith said that I don't see anything in particular that's a problem here in opening it up for discussion. Pinging Schwede66 for completion. Sorry for dragging this out, but I just think it's a fine premise for a hook. Could it be reworded in a way that retains it? SWinxy (talk) 15:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • Since I got pinged here, I'll just note that when I raised my original query at WT:DYK, I only had a vague feeling that this might be a problem, but BlueMoonset's response clarified the issue in my mind and I agree with him that ALT1 is unsuitable. RoySmith (talk) 16:06, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • Needs ALT2. Schwede66 16:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SWinxy: Any hook ideas? Z1720 (talk) 13:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alt2 ... that during his career, Hal Malchow consulted for every Democratic presidential nominee from 1988 through 2004?
Alt3 ... that during his career, Hal Malchow consulted for every Democratic presidential nominee from 1988 through 2004, over 30 senatorial campaigns, and 20 gubernatorial campaigns?
--evrik (talk) 16:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evrik, I have no objection to either alt2 or alt3. Both are referenced in the Washington Post piece. Thank you for your help! el.ziade (talkallam) 10:05, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like that! SWinxy (talk) 17:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, the ALT2 fact - which is the hook I would approve per WP:DYKTRIM - is only in the lead, and does not have an end-of-sentence citation, and I also don't see where the 1988 nominee is mentioned.--Launchballer 09:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on March 30

Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki

Improved to Good Article status by An anonymous username, not my real name (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Anonymous 16:48, 31 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - issue
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, and is well-sourced, but the source used here has an issue (see Buxton comments below). Possibly hook could be improved (see comment below), a really interesting article John Cummings (talk) 19:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I changed the review status thanks to Bruxton for flagging the issues. John Cummings (talk) 19:23, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding this nomination. It is a BLP so I am cautious about promoting a hook that seems to imply guilt before conviction. Also the bit in the hook about him being an associate professor... it appears in the lead uncited. In the body it just says "He began teaching at Kyoto's Ritsumeikan" - since it is a hook fact it should be stated in the body directly followed by a citation. The hook is 197 characters so it is 3 under the limit, but also gives too much info. (I also made this reply at DYK). I think we need a new hook that because this is a BLP. Bruxton (talk) 19:16, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Bruxton:, five years later and Ozaki's whereabouts remain unclear, as well as the issue as to whether or not he was ever formally tried or convicted by any government. This source is rather intriguing and it seems quite plausible that he may have been among the militants sentenced to death (he certainly fits their description, but while the article mentions his name, it does not confirm that he was one of them). Without any formal conviction on record, I'm unsure what the hook would even be about, as he was only notable for his alleged IS membership. Perhaps something like "... that a Bangladeshi and Japanese academic, Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki, was captured in Syria and detained in Iraq?"? This is at least somewhat interesting without making any kind of accusation. Anonymous 01:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that before changing his name to Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki, the then-Ritsumeikan University associate professor Sajit Debnath hid his beard with a surgical mask?--Launchballer 02:55, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alt2 ... that Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki is considered an expert on Islamic finance and economic theory? --evrik (talk) 03:17, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer ALT1 but let's see what @John Cummings and An anonymous username, not my real name:. If you like either John Cummings, give it a green tick again. Bruxton (talk) 03:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Bruxton, evrik, An anonymous username, not my real name, Launchballer, Z1720 I honestly don't know what the right thing to do is here, his article is almost entirely about his radicalisation and militancy but the hooks refer to his academic knowledge and wearing a surgical mask. Which seem kind of coincidental to the main content of the article. Is there anywhere we can ask for wider input? John Cummings (talk) 13:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The deafening silence may mean that not many people care about this nomination. How about this:
  • Alt3 ... that Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki was a Japanese academic of born to a Hindu family in Bangladesh who became a leader in the Islamic State?
--evrik (talk) 17:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Cora Babbitt Johnson

  • ... that early environmentalists like Cora Babbitt Johnson almost prevented the carving of Mount Rushmore? Source: Smith, Rex Alan (January 1, 1985). The Carving of Mount Rushmore. New York City: Abbeville Press. pp. chapter 2 and chapter 5; Fite, Gilbert Courtland (1952). Mount Rushmore. Internet Archive. Norman : University of Oklahoma Press; Merritt, Riley (2024-04-01). "Borglum's Horse Flies: The Early Opposition to Mount Rushmore". Honors College Theses.
    • Reviewed:
5x expanded by Borg Axoim (talk) and Crunchydillpickle (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Borg Axoim (talk) 16:27, 14 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The nominated article has one paragraph without a citation. The uncited paragraph could be supported in part by pages 11 and 121 of Mount Rushmore by Gilbert C. Fite, it talks about the Hot Springs Star's editorial stance. https://archive.org/details/mountrushmore00univ/page/121 I also suggest that an alternate wording like "that early environmentalists like Cora Babbitt Johnson almost prevented..." rather than the current wording. Update:Thanks to Mary Mark Ockerbloom for working on the reference problems on the article. Do either of the two nominators, Borg Axoim or Crunchydillpickle, have any final thoughts or last minute suggestions? 🌿MtBotany (talk) 03:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • No further comments, but I think we're good to go. Letting Borg Axoim and Crunchydillpickle know that its approved. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 23:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Borg Axoim, @Crunchydillpickle and @MtBotany Where does the wiki article state that the carving of Mount Rushmore was "almost prevented?" Unless there's genuine evidence from the cited source that the project was almost going to be shut down (if so, that should be added in), letters of opposition, protests, and halts do not equal "preventions." This needs to be addressed first before promotion. PrimalMustelid (talk) 19:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • You're right, PrimalMustelid sloppy reviewing on my part. One of the project's promotors (Robinson) said that her editorials against the project, "might produce a real disaster." The strongest that could be said is something like "environmentalists delayed the carving of Mount Rushmore" and I don't know that such as statement would be surprising/interesting. If Borg Axoim or Crunckydillpickle are interested in a rewrite of the hook there is a lot of support for something like "the artist who carved Mt. Rushmore called Cora Johnson and other environmentalists opponents "horseflies"." 🌿MtBotany (talk) 17:45, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • PrimalMustelid and My botany, you're right that the wording may not be ideal. Two of the sources (Fite and Merritt) mention how Cora Babbitt Johnson swayed the South Dakota governor against the project and that he delayed the project severely. Given that, I think it would be fair to say something like "Cora Babbitt Johnson and other environmentalists lobbied South Dakota governor Carl Gunderson, who halted the Mount Rushmore project until the end of his term". Would that be interesting enough? It could still use some rewriting. User:Borg_Axoim 7:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants

October 7, 1986 congress of the Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants
October 7, 1986 congress of the Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants
Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 377 past nominations.

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Soman (talk) 15:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment. Hi User:Soman - thanks for your work on the article. Any idea about the ultimate fate of the organisation – did it last until Yemeni unification in 1990? ITBF (talk) 10:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can't find anything definitive, I would have presumed its history ended with unification in 1990. Unlike youth organization and trade unions that continued post unification, it appears that Afid was comparatively weaker and would not have endured without state patronage. But looking here https://www.adengad.net/news/693324 and https://www.addalinews.com/Print/16352 there are mentions of a Peasants Union in the Southern movement... unsure if there is any organizational connection. For the purpose of this article I think we can end the article history with 1990 for now, though. --Soman (talk) 11:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New reviewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 13:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Soman: I've given this a review. I'm ready to pass this, but I'm blah on the hook. Do you have any others? Also, you need to anser the question about when it closed, or if it still exists. --evrik (talk) 18:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd say that the connection between the national constitution and a civil society organization is the most hookworthy factoid here. The only other option I see would the arrest of the chairman in 1978 or the cooperation agreements with East Germany. As per the closure of the organization, I don't have any source of an exact date of disbanding and it is quite likely that there was no official or formalized disbanding. When South Yemen ceased to exist, presumably the organization went quietly defunct. --Soman (talk) 10:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Can you propose some alt hooks? Also work into the piece that, "it is quite likely that there was no official or formalized disbanding. When South Yemen ceased to exist, presumably the organization went quietly defunct." --evrik (talk) 15:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • I can't add speculation in the article mainspace, without any reference. I think it is clear from context that the organization ceased to function at some point around Yemeni unification, but the reader will have to connect the dots. --Soman (talk) 22:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • The hook is bleh, and the article is incomplete without something that says how the group ended. Would you like another reviewer? --evrik (talk) 02:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 15

Roman roads in Judaea

Created by Owenglyndur (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Owenglyndur (talk) 07:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: This nomination still needs work. As it's your first nomination, I'm happy to give you time to improve this. But, at minimum, you need to settle on an interesting hook with a reliable source that you can clearly cite for it. Unsourced sections need to either be removed, or reliable sources cited inline with them. Grnrchst (talk) 13:43, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Suggestion: if you find a source for current use of the same routes, that might be interesting (enough)? FortunateSons (talk) 17:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Marking as rejected due to a lack of response from Owenglyndur. If they do not respond in the next few days, this can be closed as rejected. Z1720 (talk) 15:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Z1720, it appears that Owenglyndur responded to your original post on their talk page on 5 May rather than here, and made a number of edits to the article that same day. Do issues remain? Also pinging original reviewer Grnrchst. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd be ok with passing this review now, as the biggest issues with the article and hook have been sufficiently addressed. There's still some bits that lack inline citations, but some of them make clear what they're citing in the text and others are rather minor things in larger paragraphs that contain inline citations elsewhere. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for your comments i will work on them. I will let you know once its ready. So we will be able to publish the DYK then? Owenglyndur (talk) 07:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook should be a Monty Python reference imo. (t · c) buidhe 03:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Estoppey D-series

Estoppey D-1 in the nose of a Martin MB-2 bomber.
Estoppey D-1 in the nose of a Martin MB-2 bomber.
  • ... that the Army Air Corps were so unimpressed by the Estoppey D-8 that one member stated he would rather use nails and a wire? Source: McFarland, 141
    • Reviewed:
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 196 past nominations.

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Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article definitely long enough and presentable (although is almost entirely sourced to one source, so introducing other sources would probably be advisable.) The hook is verifiable by searching "nails and wire" on the Google Books page. Still needs the QPQ for official sign off, of course. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:01, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, as written, this would deserve {{more sources needed}}, so definitely needs more sources.--Launchballer 10:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Maury Markowitz: Please provide a QPQ, or this nomination may be closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 14:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Generalissima: Sorry, no pings on this one and I forgot about it. QPQ 2024 Loblaw boycott Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I added an image to the article which might be suitable if cropped. I don't see any others for this day with an image, is it worth adding? Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go as at the current juncture, though Launchballer's point that a more sources needed tag could very well get added is salient. I'd recommend doing a little more digging just to flesh this out if possible. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 15:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As a DYK promoter, I would be inclined to think that at least one more source needs to be added, a concern that Launchballer expressed earlier. Also, the wiki article doesn't make it clear that the quote was stated by one Army Air Corps member. PrimalMustelid (talk) 01:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimalMustelid: added cite changed wording. Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Better. Does the Description section need a source?--Launchballer 15:26, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the first sentences need to either be merged with another paragraph or be cited. PrimalMustelid (talk) 19:50, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 16

Simone Murphy

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 219 past nominations.

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Launchballer 15:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: DYK tool was reading earlier versions of the article and not showing 5k. WP:5X clearly specifies the last version of the page before expansion, which occurred a week after the removal of the WP:BLP-violating material, so I think we're good on that front. The article cites ellesse-en for some of the hook, but you have The Face here (which also supports it). Personally, I feel like The Face may be more reliable than a commercial clothing store that featured her as a model.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:23, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • A few more referencing comments: Could not get a DOB on her Instagram post (WP:ABOUTSELF allows this, but I'm only seeing 'late 20s' at the source); the Danny Lomas podcast could benefit from {{cite podcast}} (the minutes, for example; one shouldn't need to review a 57 minute podcast); Bristol Post reference is underformatted; not sure about the reliability of Planet Woo. These aren't part of the DYK nom per se; please think of them as pre-GAR comments.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:31, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Replaced the Ellesse-en source with The Face. If you scroll down on Instagram you should see her comment "gentle reminder my birthday is this saturday". The podcast should have a button saying "Transcript", which is what I used. Planet Woo is a media brand belonging to ITV, although I've just read on a press release that "the team behind VICE, i-D, Boiler Room and LADbible" founded it and WP:VICE has them in yellow. I'm not using it for anything controversial though, just an interview and attributed opinion.--Launchballer 08:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Obonga-Ottertooth Provincial Park

Created by P199 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.

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P 1 9 9   19:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC). General eligibility:[reply]

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: --evrik (talk) 17:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @P199 and Evrik: I don't feel that comfortable with including a promotional quote from the park's manager on the main page. What else is there? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 18

Zapad 2009

Landing craft Mordowija 782 during Zapad 2009
Landing craft Mordowija 782 during Zapad 2009
5x expanded by Piotrus (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 507 past nominations.

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Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

PS. I forgot to mention - there are plenty of images available for this hook. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zapad_2009 --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You'll want to add one of these to the nom for consideration.--Launchballer 19:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I am not sure how to do it post-nom. But I'd suggest File:Zapad-2009 military exercises.jpg. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:01, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By finding another nom that does it successfully and adapting it. I'll leave it to you to add a caption and will call for a reviewer.--Launchballer 15:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Caption: "Landing craft Mordowija 782 during Zapad 2009". --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added.--Launchballer 23:54, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New enough (5x expansion), long enough, well-written. Image is appropriately licensed as far as I can determine. QPQ is done. The hook is interesting and supported by an inline citation but not supported in its current format by what is written in the article. The article is a bit ambiguous on this point. On the one hand it asserts that "[...] it also simulated an amphibious landing in Poland, as well as - and most controversially - a nuclear attack against Poland (hitting Warsaw)." In my reading, this is a claim that the exercise did in fact contain such a simulation. Later, however, it is stated that "Other sources noted that the exercise involved nuclear-capable ballistic missiles (Iskander), but not necessarily a simulation of a nuclear attack on another country." I think this could be easily solved by re-phrasing the first sentence, but it should be resolved before I give the green light. Otherwise all criteria are fulfilled. Yakikaki (talk) 19:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yakikaki: Can I trouble you to suggest an alt hook with a revised wording that I can then review and adopt? I am not sure what exact minor wording change you suggest, but I am pretty sure I'd be fine with it and I'd propose it myself if I wasn't too tired to figure it out myself now. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alt 1a ... that Russian and Belarussian Zapad 2009 military exercise about repelling a NATO attack might have included simulated nuclear strikes on another country?
@Piotrus and Yakikaki: thoughts? --evrik (talk) 17:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's nothing wrong with the original hook, and Alt 1a doesn't solve the problem. The issue, which I think is very easily fixed, is that the article isn't clear on the point whether it might have included a simulated nuclear strikes on another country, or whether it in fact did. That needs to be clarified. I can then greenlight it. Yakikaki (talk) 18:03, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yakikaki, The article cites the sources; some of which say this happened and some which are more cautious. Not sure how to word it better than what we already have, both in the hook and in the article. If you think you have a better wording, be bold. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it for you. You'll need another reviewer to do the review again, though. Yakikaki (talk) 14:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Maybe User:Evrik would like to do this? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I will approve the original hook. I can't approve my hook, but will leave that for the promoter. 15:43, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Matthew Charles Johnson

Moved to mainspace by GMH Melbourne (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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GMH Melbourne (talk) 05:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Full review needed.--Launchballer 06:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article is new and long enough. Sourcing looks good though Earwig found a handful of word-for-word similarities with "theage.com.au" source. A minor issue with each of the proposed hooks: ALT0 says that Williams was Victoria's most high-profile prisoner - the body of the article supports that but the sources seem to claim he was just a high-profile prisoner. ALT1 says they threw feces at a member of the jury but the article and sources only say "excrement". Both hooks are interesting however. QPQ is not required so just need hooks fixed and that should be all. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PCN02WPS: Thank you for taking the time to review! I have reworded the article in most cases where Earwig's Copyvio Detector identified an issue but I think a lot of it falls under WP:LIMITED, or are quotes. Let me know if this needs to be addressed further. In paragraph 249 of that source, it mentions Williams as the "highest profile prisoner in Victoria". I have changed the wording of ALT1 from 'feces' to 'excrement' — GMH Melbourne (talk) 03:12, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very sorry, totally forgot about this nom. Missed the "highest profile" bit in that source so thank you for that info. Both hooks look good so we are GTG. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Articles created/expanded on April 19

Terrance (octopus)

Photograph of an Octopus bimaculoides
Photograph of an Octopus bimaculoides
Created by Yug (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Yug (talk) 🐲 10:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, is well sourced to news outlets, and it plagiarism free. There are two notes in the article that need addressing: one "who?" after 'commenters' - please be specific. Also there is a [citation needed], please add a reference. No QPQ is required. Hook is cited, but I'm not sure it is the most interesting option? The striking thing seems to be the connections between the octopus and Tiktok, so perhaps that could be an alternative hook? Picture is free, and the background is clear, but the actual octopus (which is isn't Terrance) is quite blurry. Overall a nice article, thank you! Lajmmoore (talk) 22:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how the image is relevant since it doesn't actually depict the octopus we're talking about; its use in the infobox instead of the body of the article in question is also questionable. AryKun (talk) 07:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yug: please could you address some of the points in the DYK review? I also moved the image as per AryKun's comment. I don't think it should be in the nomination either. Lajmmoore (talk) 07:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Marking this for closure due to a lack of response. If Yug comes back to address the concerns, this can be removed. Z1720 (talk) 15:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Andrena astragali, Toxicoscordion venenosum

Death camas miner bee on a death camas flower
Death camas miner bee on a death camas flower
  • ... that the nectar and pollen of meadow death camas (pictured) and its relatives are so toxic that no bee except the death camas miner bee (pictured) can eat them? Source: Cane, James H. (October 2018). "Co-dependency between a specialist Andrena bee and its death camas host, Toxicoscordion paniculatum". Arthropod-Plant Interactions. 12 (5): 657–662. doi:10.1007/s11829-018-9626-9 Quote: "In this study, T. paniculatum, T. venenosum and co-flowering forbs were sampled for bees at 15 sites along a 900-km-long east–west transect across the northern Great Basin plus an altitudinal gradient in northern Utah’s Bear River Range. Only A. astragali bees were regularly seen visiting flowering panicles of these Toxicoscordion."
    Cane, James H; Gardner, Dale R; Weber, Melissa (2 December 2020). "Neurotoxic alkaloid in pollen and nectar excludes generalist bees from foraging at death-camas, Toxicoscordion paniculatum (Melanthiaceae)". Biological Journal of the Linnean Society. 131 (4): 927–935. doi:10.1093/biolinnean/blaa159. Quote: "These two death-camas species are the sole floral hosts of the solitary andrenid bee Andrena astragali Ckll., which in turn was the only bee species (or any other insect) found regularly visiting these flowers across much of the plant’s geographic ranges (Cane, 2018)."
5x expanded by MtBotany (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

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🌿MtBotany (talk) 19:36, 21 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Since this is a two-article nomination, you need a second QPQ. The hook, article conditions, and eligibility check out, and I don't see any evidence of copyvio. You do need to bold the linked terms, however. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for the information @Generalissima:. Sorry I missed that if two articles are nominated at once it needs two QPQ. Thanks for fixing my formatting errors. I have another review in progress for Cora Babbitt Johnson. I'll try to review another nomination in case it takes longer than I anticipate. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 03:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • @MtBotany: You don't need to wait for the previous review to completely finish before using it as a QPQ, as long as you have done your due diligence in the initial check for the article. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Another thing for me to learn! Educational evening. Thanks for your attention. I should still do one so I have an extra in my back pocket for next time. I'm looking at improving other plant articles for DYK in time for their blooming seasons. The meadow death camas in my garden are up and getting energy, they will be blooming in Colorado in about a week and I'm seeing current year observations on iNaturalist 🌿MtBotany (talk) 03:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Oh, yes. This can be approved now. My bad for not stating so. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 14:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Generalissima: If this is approved, can you add the green tick under this comment, so the DYK bot can moved this to the approved list? Z1720 (talk) 15:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oops. Added. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 15:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dedie Rachim

Created by Juxlos (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 217 past nominations.

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Juxlos (talk) 08:40, 21 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article new enough and long enough. Passes earwig, no close paraphrasing was found, and the hook is interesting, cited inline, and verified (AGF on Indonesian source). QPQ done. Image appropriately licensed. GTG. Pseud 14 (talk) 13:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Sign (Bluey)

  • ... that through a retelling of a tale from the ancient Huainanzi, Chinese philosophy is referenced in the Bluey special "The Sign"? Source: Glassman, Julia (2024-04-16). "How Bluey's 'The Sign' Uses an Ancient Parable to Tell a Wonderfully Complex Story". The Mary Sue. Retrieved 2024-04-21.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Horvat ’Eqed
    • Comment: By far my finest hour at AFC yet. The buzz and anticipation (and spoilers!) at r/Bluey on the eve of its U.S. release (the evening before, more like) compelled me to give this a shot at you-know-where--well after its original ABC airing, and mere minutes after its Disney+ bow; helps that I, an occasional but devoted viewer of the Heelers and company, actually watched along with my niece (via tablet) on that very day. It's not every season--or series (in that case)--you get to see WP coverage of an animated kidvid episode outside Nicktoons, Cartoon Network, and occasional in-house-Disney territory. (I speak from previous experience, as my early-era attempts at Care Bears episode articles ultimately went nowhere; such has been the fate of many recaps devoted to older shows in that demographic.)
      Not to mention TV Tropes and Know Your Meme had their own pages on this topic while ours was in dance draft mode!
      By the way, an episode like "The Sign" actually speaks volumes to yours truly, a former Connecticut resident (and animation lover--and immigrant from the Commonwealth of Dominica) who had to move to Central Florida seven years ago on account of his male superior's job change. (Shared that same memory to the niece.)
      Many thanks to the others who helped me along the way this past week:
May we meet each other again in the next few months en route to my long-coveted Four Award--for real life (which I originally planned to reserve for Ain't Burned All the Bright last August). No matter what happens next--good or bad...
"We'll see."
Moved to mainspace by Slgrandson (talk).

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Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 07:20, 21 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Not sure what the comments above about the link meant. Not thrilled with the hook. It's somewhat wordy. Also, the word Huainanzi is not in the article. Can we get some ALTs? --evrik (talk) 18:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 22

Ruach Planitia

  • ... that that a large basin on Neptune's moon Triton may once have filled with liquid water cryolava, similar to how liquid silicates fill lava lakes on Earth? Source: Gregg, Tracy K. P. and collaborators "Planetary Volcanism across the Solar System" chapter 5 - Cryovolcanism (https://www.sciencedirect.com/book/9780128139875/planetary-volcanism-across-the-solar-system) Source says: Some features [on Triton] resemble volcanic calderas on Earth that are filled with fluid lava. Fig. 23E shows one such example, Ruach Planitia ... The plains contain clusters of pits, which may be volcanic vents from which the smooth material erupted, before ponding and filling the area enclosed by the scarps. (p. 219)
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Unsure about the wording of "liquid silicates", "liquid rock" or an alternative may be more appropriate. Leaving up to the reviewer to decide.
Created by ArkHyena (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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ArkHyena (talk) 02:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article was created three days before nomination. Article meets adequate length & general guideline requirements, although the first sentence in Ruach Planitia#Discovery and naming doesn't seem to have a proper citation. Could that be fixed? WP:AGF on sources I cannot access, otherwise it looks good. No copyvio found w/ Earwig. Hook is interesting enough, AGF again as I cannot see the figure for a book I do not have access to. I recommend wikilinking silicate. No QPQ required. Good job on the article! Just let me know if you could get that citation issue sorted with. Thanks, B3251 (talk) 16:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added a reference to the NASA site for Voyager 2[4] as per these sections of text: Voyager photographed two-thirds of Neptune’s largest moon Triton ... Spectacular images of its southern hemisphere showed a strange, pitted cantaloupe-type terrain. and Voyager 2 was the first human-made object to fly by Neptune.. A similar reference has been added to its sister article, Tuonela Planitia. ArkHyena (talk) 07:53, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. B3251 (talk) 17:38, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ArkHyena and B3251: it may be my unfamiliarity with the subject, by I can't find where the hook is mentioned/cited in the article. Can you help? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the passage where the reference is cited: The flat floor of Ruach Planitia suggests that fluid cryolava infilled the depression, with the pits around Dilolo Patera acting as central vents whence material erupted from.[2]: 870 [9]: 219 . "Cryolava" in general implies a water-dominated erupted fluid, similar to how "regular" lava is usually silicate-dominated. This probably could be stated more explicitly in the article, to be quite honest. ArkHyena (talk) 19:43, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Live into 85

Created by Launchballer (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 224 past nominations.

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Launchballer 12:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • What a trainwreck!! This article had me in stitches. It also is new enough, long enough, and contains the hook fact in the article with no textual issues. A hearty thank you for the laughter, Launchballer. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 08:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of San Diego County, California

Flag of San Diego County
Flag of San Diego County
Created by Illegitimate Barrister (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

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Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 02:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Earwig flagged this. There is a large copy/paste in this piece. --evrik (talk) 19:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's fine, since it's a public domain source (Californian government). – Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 20:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Please somehow set aside all the copy/paste stuff as quotes. --evrik (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Article has now been rewritten, so the copy-paste from PD source is less direct. Length, date, hook ok. Ideally File:Flag_of_San_Diego_County,_California.png should be added to the nomination as well. However, the nominator needs to provide a QPQ for this to be ticked. --Soman (talk) 11:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just went through Illegitimate Barrier's contributions. He has only edited two DYK nomination pages since May 2020, this one and this edit to Kirby: King of Comics, which absolutely does not count as a QPQ. This needs a full QPQ, and I would suggest stepping on it.--Launchballer 13:23, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 23

Oophaga solanensis

5x expanded by AryKun (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 31 past nominations.

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AryKun (talk) 21:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@AryKun: Article is new enough (per WP:DYK5X) and long enough. The article is sourced adequately and reliably, neutral, and there isn't any plagiarism. I prefer ALT1, as it's a little more interesting and the wording in ALT0 is a little unclear. I've made an alternative hook for ALT1 specifying that Colombia is their native country (just for complete clarity).
  • ALT1a: ... that Oophaga solanensis frogs can be bought for $3 in their native Colombia and sold for up to $1,000 overseas?
Looks ready. This is my first DYK review, so I'd love a second opinion. Thanks, SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 05:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's your second opinion. Long enough, new enough. No maintenance templates found, no neutrality issues found, Earwig is quiet. QPQ done. Both hooks would require an end-of-sentence citation. (Side note: Please consider reviewing oldest first per WP:DYKRI.)--Launchballer 22:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer added end-of-sentence cites. AryKun (talk) 03:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let's roll.--Launchballer 05:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]





Articles created/expanded on April 24

German atrocities committed against Soviet prisoners of war

Overcrowded camp in Smolensk
Overcrowded camp in Smolensk
Created by Buidhe (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 244 past nominations.

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(t · c) buidhe 23:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Nominated soon enough after GA. Meets length and citation requirements. Hook is absolutely interesting and the right length. The content of the hook is referenced in the article and a citation is appended immediately after where it appears. The image appears to come from a Nazi German government source, which means it's almost certainly in the public domain. Only concern is with the image's visibility at a smaller scale; going to just leave that up to promoter discretion. QPQ done (a quick-fail of novice nomination). Overall great work! ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Coulrophilia

Created by Di (they-them) (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

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Di (they-them) (talk) 22:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Well that's a quite interesting topic. Everything checks out! Skyshiftertalk 19:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Teeth (musical)

Created by Spaghettifier (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

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Spaghettifier (talk) 22:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • This is a comment not a review, but doesn't the hook violate WP:DYKFICTION? I do think the hook is interesting, but unfortunately it's focused on a plot point without having a real-world connection. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:18, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is otherwise rather light on other potential hook facts, but this might work as an alternative:
ALT1 ... that the soundtrack to the 2024 musical Teeth was described as ranging from Christian rock to "an ancient feminine Tori Amos meets Stravinsky pagan ritual music"?
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Good point – I didn't think about that. I like your alt suggestion though! Spaghettifier (talk) 19:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Broadway World is listed at WP:RSP in red, meaning it can't be used. If it was added to the article, ALT2 ... that Teeth, a depiction of a young woman's discovery that she has teeth in her vagina, has been described as having a "lethal bite" by The New York Times? could work.--Launchballer 09:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3: ... that The New York Times described "Teeth" as having a "lethal bite"?--Launchballer 16:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 sounds good! @Spaghettifier: Are you okay with it? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestion @Launchballer:! Replaced the BroadwayWorld source and added the lethal bite description. I'm thinking one tweak so we still get a sense of what the show is:
ALT4: ... that The New York Times called Teeth a "feminist awakening with a lethal bite"? Spaghettifier (talk) 23:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess, I was going for the quirky angle, but ALT4 checks out. Full review needed.--Launchballer 06:47, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marcus Jacob Papilaja

Created by Juxlos (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 219 past nominations.

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Juxlos (talk) 08:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. QPQ pending. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: QPQ added. Juxlos (talk) 17:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]



Articles created/expanded on April 25

Gyōji

Sumo referee Kimura Shōtarō with a Pokémon-inspired kimono in January 2022
Sumo referee Kimura Shōtarō with a Pokémon-inspired kimono in January 2022
Improved to Good Article status by OtharLuin (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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OtharLuin (talk) 07:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • My first thought reading the hook was "my sphincter, the games were released in 1996!". The hook should make it clear that the games were in fact released then - simply adding "the 1996 games" will take the hook above WP:DYK200, so something else will have to give.--Launchballer 07:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the mention of the year of release is so important that it needs to be added, the hook is centered on the kimono and I'm already specifying that it's the game's 25th anniversary. The hook is long enough as it is. - OtharLuin (talk) 07:24, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, which means as written the hook implies they were released in 1997! That said, I am a huge Pokémaniac (even to the point I spent much of the pandemic writing Pokémon-themed fanfiction, which at some point I should rewrite from scratch) and perhaps I'm being too overprotective. An actual reviewer can adjudicate on this.--Launchballer 07:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Was this a limited-time promotion or now ongoing/continual? "Since the January 2022 sumo tournament, gyoji can be seen" makes it sound like the latter, while the sources give the impression that they were only talking about the one tournament. If it was just for a limited time then we should rephrase and use past tense. Adumbrativus (talk) 19:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No limit in time. The Japan Sumo Association made a set of kimono to celebrate the anniversary but gyoji can still be seen wearing the said pokémon-inspired kimono in the ring today. (another source) - OtharLuin (talk) 22:03, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This nomination still needs a reviewer. Z1720 (talk) 15:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Satanoperca lilith

Created by Kodiak Blackjack (talk).

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Kodiak Blackjack (talk) • (contribs) 22:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Preference for the original hook - this genus has quite a few interesting names!  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:01, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


References

  1. ^ Kullander, Sven O.; Ferreira, Efrem Jorge Gondim (January 1988). "A new Satanoperca species (Teleostei, Cichlidae) from the Amazon River basin in Brazil". Cybium, International Journal of Ichthyology. 12 (4): 343–355. Retrieved 25 April 2024.
  2. ^ da Silva, Andrea Leme; Begossi, Alpina (27 November 2007). "Biodiversity, food consumption and ecological niche dimension: a study case of the riverine populations from the Rio Negro, Amazonia, Brazil". Environment, Development and Sustainability. 11 (3): 495. doi:10.1007/s10668-007-9126-z. Retrieved 25 April 2024. Fish recommended to be eaten by ill persons are pacu, aracu, cara (several Cichlidae species, such as Uaru spp., Heros sp., Satanoperca lilith), and trahira (Hoplias malabaricus).
  3. ^ Fung, Cadi Y.; Peter, Brad G.; Simmons, Cynthia S. (29 November 2023) [14 August 2023]. "Habitat Mapping and Spatiotemporal Overlap of the Amazon River Dolphin, Fishers, and Tourism in the Central Region of the Brazilian Amazon". Conservation. 3 (4): 523–542. doi:10.3390/conservation3040034.

The Sheep Eaters (film)

Source: https://elonet.finna.fi/Record/kavi.elonet_elokuva_101068?lng=en-gb

    • Reviewed:
Created by Juustila (talk).

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Juustila (talk) 13:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1: ...that a Finnish film The Sheep Eaters was shown on TV while another channel was showing Ice Hockey World Championships match between Finland and the Soviet Union, still gaining over million views? Source: https://elonet.finna.fi/Record/kavi.elonet_elokuva_101068?lng=en-gb
Juustila (talk) 02:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
194 characters. Full review needed.--Launchballer 17:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taiyin Xingjun

Painting of Taiyin Xingjun, the Western Xia (982–1227), in Hermitage Museum.
Painting of Taiyin Xingjun, the Western Xia (982–1227), in Hermitage Museum.
Created by TheGreatPeng (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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TheGreatPeng (talk) 06:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi, who will review my DYK? And how many days do I need to wait for a review? TheGreatPeng (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Please be patient. This is a volunteer effort, and the average wait time for a review could be around two to three weeks, perhaps sooner or later depending on who is active. Please be mindful of WP:DYK200. It may help to present alternate hooks for consideration. Viriditas (talk) 20:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But it was too long to wait; even my second DYK was reviewed. TheGreatPeng (talk) 05:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article is sourced well, no plagiarism, new enough, long enough, but needs another pass over for grammar, spelling, and tone. Article could also use clarification about which aspects of worship of this god apply to China/specific regions of China, and which to Taiwan. Hook should also be simplified. How about: ...that Taiyin Xingjun (pictured) is the original Chinese moon goddess, but is often confused with Chang'e?

Luiysia (talk) 16:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • How about: ... that Taiyin Xingjun (pictured) is the original Chinese moon goddess, while the more famous Chang'e considered her incarnation?

TheGreatPeng (talk) 18:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]



Articles created/expanded on April 26

Rosal, Sutherland

  • ... that Rosal was the largest of 49 townships in Strathnaver, shortly before it was deserted entirely?
  • Reviewed:
Created by DandelionAndBurdock (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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-- D'n'B-t -- 16:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough, long enough, and properly sourced. No QPQ needed. Earwig found no problematic copied wording. Good-enough hook, but one must synthesize a couple pieces of information in the article to obtain it: the "largest township" part is at the end of the town section, dated to the early 19th century, while the "deserted" part is at the end of the "clearance" section. In fact both facts are adjacent in the "Maverick Guide to Scotland" source, with much tighter dating (largest in 1815; cleared between 1814 and 1818) and to avoid problems with WP:SYN the article would benefit from making them adjacent somewhere within it, footnoted to that source. Also, "deserted" is maybe a euphemism for what happened. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks David. What if the sentence in the Town section said "Before the clearance, it was the largest of 49 townships in Strathnaver"? That would would be consistent with the Maverick Guide guide source and not change up the current before-during-after structure. I could also change the sentence in the Clearance section to say "completely deserted by 1818" to avoid any ambiguity.
I think "deserted" is, from a NPOV, the end result of what happened, it describes what's left. You could say "forcibly depopulated" or something but I think "deserted" is clear enough and used in the sources. -- D'n'B-t -- 18:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To me, "deserted" is an accurate and neutral description of the state of the place now, but not of the process by which it reached that state. How about
  • ALT1 ... that before its inhabitants were evicted, Rosal was the largest of 49 townships in Strathnaver?
but that would require a new reviewer as I can't both propose hooks and approve them. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be happy with that ALT1, (although with the link just saying "Rosal" for preference). -- D'n'B-t -- 19:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That was an unintentional omission. I've piped the link as you originally did now. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 short enough, cited, and interesting, though may be worth adding "in Scotland" per WP:DYKINT. Let's roll.--Launchballer 06:25, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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