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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#July 29 2010|July 29, 2010]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[John Walker (industrialist)]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201007/John_Walker_(industrialist) quick check] )</small> and add it to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]].
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== us university ranking discussion ==

Hey GrapedApe, I am the original publisher of the Consus Composite ranking. The discussion for its use has been reopened, so if you want to join in again, feel free. Thanks[[User:Zoroastrama100|Zoroastrama100]] ([[User talk:Zoroastrama100|talk]]) 18:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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Francis Julius LeMoyne

I've responded to your question on my talk page. --Midnightdreary (talk) 22:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Article

DYK nomination of U. Grant Miller Library

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DYK nomination of WNJR (FM)

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DYK for WNJR (FM)

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W&J alumni

Certainly keep the images, as they enhance the visual appeal of the list. Look forward to seeing more improvements as and when you get the chance. BencherliteTalk 08:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All yours

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RlevseTalk 18:36, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FLC

Hey there, I'd just like to thank you for doing reviews of featured list candidates. Those two recently didn't go so well, but it is in general a good process. Don't let it get you down! Thanks again, hope to see you around. Jujutacular T · C 19:14, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion nomination of Category talk:Wikipedians by alma mater: Washington & Jefferson College

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DYK for Old Main (Washington & Jefferson College)

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Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sackville House

Nice work! I visited the W&J campus a week ago, for the first time; it's definitely a nice-looking campus. Have you ever heard of a building around campus known as the "Sackville House", on E. Wheeling St.? I tried to find it, but my best guess is that it's been torn down and replaced with the new fine arts center. Nyttend (talk) 03:12, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note; however, I did notice the house that you mention. I parked farther east on Wheeling (just barely west of the Wade Ave. intersection) and walked to McMillan Hall, stopping for the Sackville House. I photographed the house that you're talking about, only to notice that it had a different number than the one given for the Sackville House. Nyttend (talk) 04:17, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I still believe that the house is gone. Its National Register nomination form includes a map, but there's nothing specifically marked as being the house on the map on page 5. Moreover, look at the picture; I don't remember seeing this house anywhere along Wheeling, and the shadows on Google Maps' satellite view don't seem to show any such house. Errors such as Canonsburg for the administration building are quite rare; I doubt that there's such a significant error here. I'll be happy if you can show me that there really is an error, and that it's still in existence :-) Nyttend (talk) 05:05, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's not the only situation that a landmarked building doesn't stay in existence for long after it's designated: check out Holy Rosary Catholic Church (St. Marys, Ohio), which was listed on the National Register a full year after it was demolished. Thanks for the link to Shorty's; I'm quite impressed by the 23,000 signatures especially. Nyttend (talk) 12:05, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was really only concerned with buildings on the National Register, so the only other building that I photographed was McMillan Hall. I did get several pictures of that, so I suspect that they could be useful; I've just not gotten around to uploading them yet. Nyttend (talk) 03:24, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, and thanks for your detailed review of this FLC. Can you revisit to ensure your concerns have been addressed, and if possible declare whether you support, oppose, or are neutral toward the list's promotion to FL status? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 22:19, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for McMillan Hall (Washington & Jefferson College)

Thanks for this article Victuallers (talk) 08:03, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Phi Kappa Psi brothers is promoted to FL

Thanks for all of your help. Your critiques and work helped to earn that star. NYCRuss 05:12, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Happy GrapedApe's Day!

User:GrapedApe has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
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For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian,
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01:09, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it.RlevseTalk 01:09, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, GrapedApe. Once you add a third-party reliable source to Hays Hall and a reference that states that Frederick J. Osterling is a noted architect, I will pass it. I am referring to the discussion at Template talk:Did you know#Hays Hall. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 20:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for adding the reference. I've verified the hook. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 06:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Pleasure doing business with you.--GrapedApe (talk) 06:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hays Hall

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Literary societies at Washington & Jefferson College

The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for The Burnett Center

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 18:03, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick note to let you know that I'll hopefully have some time tomorrow to check out the peer review of the above list. Sorry it's taken so long. Lots of real life stuff going on. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:48, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Phew, got there in the end, hopefully my few comments are of use. I look forward to seeing it at FLC. All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:07, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Technology Center

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DYK for Swanson Science Center

The DYK project (nominate) 18:15, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

NRHP Infobox

Hi: Noticed you recently created the NRHP stub for the East Washington Historic District. I updated the infobox using the Elkman tool. You might consider using the same since it already contains much of what you are entering manually and is based on the NRHP database.--Pubdog (talk) 00:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Technology Center

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

New page patrol

Hi, since you seem to be creating a lot of new pages recently (I'm looking through the old college football seasons), you might want to consider applying to be a autoreviewer so that your pages are skipped on new page patrol. Thanks! -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly wasn't aware of this discussion until after I gave you autoreviewer. So, here are your new duties: continue exactly as you had been doing before. "Autoreviewer" is a misnomer; it should be "autoreviewed". All it means is that you, GrapedApe, are considered someone who can be trusted to not create inappropriate pages (in all namespaces, not just articles)... and that you do it often enough that it's more efficient to just mark them all as 'approved' by default. This gets you out of my backlogs (which are typically +3 weeks long). DS (talk) 13:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well...as long as it comes with no responsibilities and I don't have to do anything... Thanks for the confidence!--GrapedApe (talk) 04:05, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Review

You're welcome. I can't let these things pass me by without having a bit of a look at them! Good work, by the way. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll try and have a proper look later on. Immediate thoughts are that you're missing accessdates on some of the web references, you might want to think about having the tables sortable by surname and appointment date (not hugely important, probably), and that the key in the notes section might be better located earlier, so we don't have to wait to find out what the symbols mean. BencherliteTalk 07:10, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Portals

Well, I copied the coding from Portal:Nevada, so you ought to thank Juliancolton (talk · contribs), in fact! BencherliteTalk 21:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of First Presbyterian Church 1793

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DYK for Pennsylvania College Cases

RlevseTalk 00:03, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Washington & Jefferson College

Hello! One of your recent edits on June 12 to the article Washington & Jefferson College added a reference named "carnegieclassifications" (in two places) but did not include the actual source. Would you please revisit the article and add the source you intended? Thanks. - Salamurai (talk) 16:19, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

June 2010

The Schools Barnstar
For your extensive work improving the Washington & Jefferson College article and ones related to the topic. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:44, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for First Presbyterian Church 1793

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DYK for John Canon

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Congratulations. Could you let me know next time you're going to put an article? I'd like to be in Reno so I could lay a bet. ;) ----moreno oso (talk) 00:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think you "sugar coated" your last summary. I was pretty upset too when it went to AfD but figured we would win and get a laugh in the long run. ----moreno oso (talk) 04:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Examiner

I understand the timeline. But the articles are on a site that is now blacklisted. The blacklisting doesn't exempt certain dates. It simply blacklists the site, period. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:07, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is the intermix. Baltimore Examiner, Washington Examiner, SF Examiner and Examiner.com were all under the same company and used the same url, examiner.com. Washington Examiner is still owned by them, but is a separate part of the business. At the same time, there were the same ones currently on Examiner.com writing under that URL too. So not only do you have to parse out which city, but which dates and then decide whether it was a Baltimore Examiner writer or a writer for the Baltimore edition of Examiner.com. It's not as simple as just setting a cut off date. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:29, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another Mises Inst. vanity page for deletion

There are a few other articles out there like the bio of Jeffrey_Herebener:Mises Institute vanity pages for non-notable academics with WP:PROF and WP:UNDUE problems. One more, that of Jörg Guido Hülsmann has been nominated for deletion, for the same reason you nominated the Herbener article.Bkalafut (talk) 01:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks, and I agree that this fellow isn't notable. There are a lot of similar pages, and it would be a chore to dig through them all. Please keep me posted.--GrapedApe (talk) 03:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings. I came here wondering if you could supply a source for the Date of Death for Chase Clements, as I was unaware of what SSDI was. I see from earlier conversions that SSDI is the Social Security Death Index. So, now I'm intrigued. How does one search the SSDI?--GrapedApe (talk) 16:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. In order to search the SSDI, you just need to go to http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ and fill in the information (advanced search is usually better for common names) and, while you cannot link directly to the results, you can create a convenience link by clicking on the SS-5 Letter link, which gives you this (for George Clements, anyways). Generally it's better to then use the date you find to do a Google news archive search for an obituary, but that doesn't always work (if the obituary doesn't exist or was never uploaded etc.) You might run into WP:BLP problems if you use it for someone who is still thought to be living (since it might be construed to be original research), but in this case, Clements' NFL profile lists him as deceased, so there shouldn't be a problem. Canadian Paul 22:03, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Wow, thank you very much! I'm surprised that there isn't an SSDI citation template. Maybe one could be created?--GrapedApe (talk) 03:30, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just did some searching and, apparentely, there is one! So that should be useful in the future. Canadian Paul 15:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that's almost exactly the kind of thing I was thinking of. One last question: Is there a more reliable source for the SSDI than rootsweb? Does the Social Security office publish it in an authoritative way? Or is the rootsweb version considered pretty reliable?--GrapedApe (talk) 16:54, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, the SSDI is the only way to access the United States Death Master File. As far as reliability, it's just as likely to make a typo or an error as any news report, so if those are considered reliable, this should be as well. Canadian Paul 15:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Someone reduced the size of File:WandJseal.png and totally reversed the transparency work that you did. I'm wondering if you would kindly be able to look at File:WandJseal.png again and restore the transparency. Also could you check and see if the shrinking of the image caused any artifacts? Sorry to bother you again...--GrapedApe (talk) 21:44, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No bother. I re-did the downsample with the transparency intact. By the way, maybe the seal falls into the public domain due to age? For example, according to this, p. 20, the first known use of the seal is from 1902. What do you think? —Quibik (talk) 22:33, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
By gum, I think you're right. I'll move it to commons right now! Thanks!--GrapedApe (talk) 03:10, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uniform Images

Sorry for the delay. Yes, I was the creator of the hockey uniform images, as well as the creator of the baseball uniforms and the original football uniforms (which have since been redone). What questions do you want to ask? --The Silent Wind of Doom (talk) 17:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, yeah, I guess I am the original creator of the template. I've never thought of the templates as works themselves. I edited my original football uniform to make a hockey uniform. The images themselves are not free, due to the logos, etc, but the templates themselves are certainly open to the public. People have already been using my football and baseball templates to make more uniforms and images than my original work. If you need it to be official and all, though: I, the Silent Wind of Doom, herby release my creations, the templates for my uniform images, under CC-BY-3.0. --The Silent Wind of Doom (talk) 20:14, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Template Barnstar
For your consistent contributions and excellent work on helping to improve the Washington & Jefferson template! Jrcla2 (talk) 16:04, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Washington county historical markers

Hey GrapedApe,

Sorry that I overwrote your last edit to List of Pennsylvania state historical markers in Washington County. I had a large edit that I hadn't yet saved. All the wikilink fixes that you had made were in my edit, except that I retained the official title of each marker to display on the table. I apologize if I stepped on your toes. I really don't care if the titles stay that way, but that is how I was filling them in for the rest of the PA county marker lists. Thanks for your help. I'm done with Washington County for now, so we won't get our edits crossed further. CrazyPaco (talk) 23:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Washington County NRHP stubs

Could you please not create one sentence NRHP stubs. Although, I see you've finished with Washington County. If you plan on going back and expanding some of theme, I can point you to where you can get the nomination forms, which are a great source to use in an article. There is plenty of interesting information on these sites if one looks (see Hawthorne School (Canonsburg, Pennsylvania) and the Pennsylvania Railroad Passenger Station (California, Pennsylvania), which I was able to expand). ​​Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 16:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ???--GrapedApe (talk) 16:55, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi GrapedApe. With Niagara's comment here and another's comment at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Washington County, Pennsylvania, you're running into an issue that some/many frequent NRHP article editors have opinions about. There's been some acrimony, in fact, and there's a wide spectrum of views about when starting new NRHP articles is helpful or not. One extreme could be that no article should be started if it is not Featured Article quality, immediately; the other extreme is that any start is an advance, and helpful. I and most others have viewpoints somewhere inbetween. I believe there's no Wikipedia policy reason why an article should not be started, however, and I for one look at your new articles indexed in National Register of Historic Places listings in Washington County, Pennsylvania as a contribution. I agree with Niagara and others that more in any one article is better, though, so if you can follow Niagara's advice and find your way to add NRHP nomination forms (great references for these), that would be great, though is not required by any absolute rule. There's some instructions meant to help with that posted at wp:NRHPhelp (scroll down to Pennsylvania). I'm not sure how good those instructions are, will try now to use them to further develop one or two of these Washington County articles. Anyhow, thanks for your contributions, and please consider joining the NRHP WikiProject and/or participating at its Talk page(shortcuts wp:NRHP and wt:NRHP). --doncram (talk) 18:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • P.S. Hey, i am trying to develop the Beallsville Historic District one a bit more, now, for example, using the NRHP nomination document available for it. Also, I noticed your comment about getting Pennsylvania state staff involved in correcting info about one of the NRHP entries, relative to the NRHP's NRIS system data about the place. That's great. You should know that we have an error note collection system about NRHP errors, at wp:NRIS info issues PA for Pennsylvania items. I have tried corresponding with the NRHP about fixing errors regarding other states, but I don't believe anyone has been working on getting Pennsylvania-related errors corrected. Thanks for working on that one! --doncram (talk) 20:53, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thank you for the notes. Frankly, I'm surprised that creating stub articles on obviously note-worthy subjects can arouse such negativity, like this rude comment. I fail to see how creating those stubs--with a reference, a full infobox, and relevant categories--can possibly be a bad thing. Featured articles don't spring fully-formed from the mind of contributors: they must start somewhere. Thanks for trying to explain what the dispute is all about, rather than just being nasty. I'll take a look at the Beallsville article. However, I'll probably steer clear of other NRHP articles, because I'd rather not be harassed by some self-appointed arbiters of protocol at the NRHP project. --GrapedApe (talk) 21:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Please don't be discouraged in article creation. Stub articles aren't ideal, but how many featured articles started out as stubs in the first place? I stubbed the entire National Register of Historic Places listings in Florida about 4 years ago, with basic two to three sentence stubs. I did put in a couple of extra refs in each one, though. Part of the problem with the short-short stubs is that they used to have deletion attempts made on them frequently, due to insufficient assertion of notability. Not as much of an issue now, but it is something to think about, when creating any stub. My philosophy, though, is that articles have to start somewhere, and it's easier to expand something already existing. Some of us don't have the attention span to create extensive and gloriously referenced articles. But stubs can be expanded, that's what they're for. Some of the ones I created have. I'm all about quantity. Oh, and quality too, I suppose. My two pence, for what it's worth. :) --Ebyabe (talk) 21:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • Well, I visited to try to explain the rude-type comment, which i thot would be disturbing (and i think it was meant to be). I cannot justify that behavior by another editor. To be clear, I think it is fine that you created the articles, with a reference, etc., as you say, and it is a positive contribution. I wonder, do you have connection to the Washington County area, and would you be able to take and upload pictures of any of these?
          • If you might be interested, one area where I could use some similar help, and where your creating articles would be welcomed, is National Register of Historic Places listings in Fairfield County, Connecticut. I am working there on both creating new articles and also on developing them and adding NRHP nomination document references. There are about 15 remaining red-links there, and I would be very glad if you would start them, and I also believe i can assure you that others would not interfere negatively there. Others have not been bothering me there, and I would surely object strenuously if anyone did interfere negatively. Any which way, thanks again for your contributions. --doncram (talk) 15:28, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

College Ice Hockey Task Force

You have been invited to join the College hockey task force, a task force under WikiProject Ice Hockey. We are dedicated to improving the College ice hockey-related articles on Wikipedia. You received this invitation due to your interest in college hockey and/or your many edits to college hockey related articles. If you would like to join, please visit the task force page, and add your name to the list of active project members.

Thank you. Bhockey10 (talk) 07:51, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for John Walker (industrialist)

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

us university ranking discussion

Hey GrapedApe, I am the original publisher of the Consus Composite ranking. The discussion for its use has been reopened, so if you want to join in again, feel free. ThanksZoroastrama100 (talk) 18:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]