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Thank You

Thank you very much for the references you've found on Norman Leibovitch, in what has turned out to be an ensuing 'battle' with another editor over the right for him to belong on the Wiki page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zkamel86 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Rjanag arbitration-related

Encouragement

Please persevere through all the drama surrounding The Shells article and Rjanag. I believe such drama drives many good editors away, and I don't want it to happen to you. You do good work and I appreciate it. - Draeco (talk) 00:29, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Ditto. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 13:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

		The Resilient Barnstar
		For your your valiant efforts to defend The Shells (folk band) article with your reasoned arguments and perseverance, and for taking conflicts in your stride and continuing undeterred with your good work as a Wikipedia editor. Illegitimi non carborundum. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 01:44, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:ANI--Rjanag; Rjanag Arbitration

With heavy heart, I have reported Rjanag at the ANI here based on what I believe was grossly uncivil behavior during the Shells affair. It is neither a personal attack against him nor a favor to you, but his behavior compelled me to act. As an involved party I think you should know. - Draeco (talk) 06:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note. My heart too has grown heavier the more the relationship between the nom and the closing admin reveals itself.

As you know, now that that ANI has closed, I've opened up this Rjanag arbitration. Quick question as to your comment there. You indicated that you don't recommend de-sysopping as he didn't abuse admin privileges. My reading of WP:ADMIN, as I quoted it there, was that de-sysopping is one possible appropriate treatment of an admin who displays consistently or egregiously poor judgment, or who seriously, or repeatedly, acts in a problematic manner or has lost the trust or confidence of the community, including repeated/consistent poor judgment, breach of basic policies (attacks, biting/civility, edit warring), "bad faith" adminship (gross breach of trust), and conduct elsewhere incompatible with adminship. Did I miss something (in which case I should amend my request), or do you read it differently? Or perhaps just have a more lenient approach than WP:ADMIN? Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:15, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Apologies

This may be too little too late, but I have left you a message with my apologies at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Statement by Rjanag. Thank you, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Full reply @ Rjanag Arbitration

• I'm saddened that you did not do so many weeks earlier. But only after being completely unrepentant through dozens of requests/incidents involving me and others, an AN/I, an arb request being filed, evidence pouring forth regarding your extraordinarily close relationship with the closing admin, and arb voters indicating that they do not agree with your pooh-poohing of the matter. And even yesterday you were saying you do not need to apologize. It certainly makes it look as though rather than being heartfelt, this has more to do with your desire to avoid the scrutiny of an arbitration.

Finally, on further inspection, your "apology" is barely an apology at all -- as you fail to admit and to apologize for your persistent incivility, untruthful statements, bullying, wikihounding, gaming the system, edit warring, and knowing COI. Further inspection also reveals that your behavior spreads over a number of matters, and impacts a number of editors. They deserve better. My full comments can be found at Rjanag Arbitration. --Epeefleche (talk) 07:56, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

A word in your ear

I participated in the first Shells AfD in question. AfD is a frequent stomping ground of mine, and I find it extremely common to see articles like The Shells to be put up for AfD, and just as common to see them deleted as a result of them not satisfying the basic notability and sourcing requirements of WP. Sometimes creators/editors who fail to accept that. There is occasionally dogged opposition to a deletion, which you demonstrated to see the article wasn't deleted, leading to bitter fights which may get personal. The Shells AfD was certainly one of those. I believe the tone set by Rjanag in the AfD was not appropriate, effectively winding up people who would have supported the deletion on the merits of the case alone that prevailed eventually. While I applaud you for your tenacious fight to keep the article, I believe that the lesson to be learned would be to strive for improved sourcing and better writing of an article to avoid the common pitfalls which lead to deletion. I have been upset when articles I have contributed significantly were put to AfD, because it's a natural tendency to want to look after one's baby. I know the above from Rjanag is not the unreserved apology you feel you deserve. But hard as it may be, I hope you will not take the deletion too personally. Perhaps one day, The Shells will be a notable band... I hope you will stay around for when that happens. Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 04:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. We can have different views as to the AfD merits. We're not alone--just look at the votes at the two AfDs. That's fair. And needn't be uncivil. I've created nearly 200 articles in my years here, and made more than a few thousand edits, so I have a bit of a sense for notability.

I credit you, however, for agreeing with those of us who believe that the tone set by Rjanag in the AfDs was not appropriate. Not many have crossed the aisle, stood up, and made themselves heard on that point.

Also, his misconduct included misstatements. That does not lead IMHO to the best decision-making by those who are trying to make a decision based on facts, not misstatements.

Many editors noticed his misconduct. At least 20 discussed it with him in the past few months, with communications ranging from complaints to warnings to AN/Is. Those 20 editors from what I can tell are essentially unrelated--joined only by their common concern over his misconduct.

As to the "ownership" point, I don't get the sense that Draeco brought the Shells AN/I, or that the other editors spoke up about the conduct that led to the Shells and the other AN/Is, because of "ownership" issues. Quite the opposite. Rather, they think as I do that misconduct is bad, they care about this project, and they believe that misconduct of this sort adversely impacts the project.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:18, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

• I sympathise. With all your experience, he still managed to wind you up. In my previous dealings with him, he's been pretty no-nonsense, occasionally blunt; he's never been abusive, but one can sense what lurks below the surface. I don't know what's got into him. I'll make a mental note but I'd rather not have to spend time looking into it for now. Happy editing! Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 02:51, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• It's not every day I see an admin write one editor: "You can go f_ck yourself" [letter redacted], use the same choice words to another editor, and also write "if you bring them to ANI … you will get bitch-slapped so fast it'll make your head spin … You f_cking moron”. [letter redacted]--Epeefleche (talk) 03:09, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

No you don't. Whoever let the lord of the jungle out? ;-) Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 18:14, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Aafia Siddiqui

Some terrific work there on Aafia Siddiqui Bachcell (talk) 19:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

• Great work on Aafia, It's more factual now!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.219.88.140 (talk) 19:11, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Najibullah Zazi

Hi there. Just a quick note: Great job editing the article. It now looks complete. Thanks! Tuscumbia (talk) 14:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Taking your advice

Taking your advice, I've rolled back my own edit. That aside, please respond to me instead of blanking this message. I have been civil with you, why can't you return the favor and discuss this with me?— Dædαlus ^Contribs 05:54, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I should have checked the history of this page, and for failing to do so, and assuming bad faith, I apologize. It is fine if you remove this message of course, now that I know. Again, I am sorry. I hope you can forgive me. I understand the need to not have clutter, I just wish that I was so insistent upon it that I could manage to clean my room. I'm actually considering a wikibreak because-(this will continue in email, if you don't mind). I'm experiencing too much stress. I'm even considering changing my 'oppose' to a 'support' regarding the interaction ban with Mb. I don't want there to be an indef ban, but considering things, and .. other things, I may just resolve to, instead of reverting their edits, responding to them, instead, I will simply report the edits to the admin who placed the original 24 hour ban, and let them decide for themselves. If this user continues to personally attack others, then they will get sanctioned.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 06:13, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

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Eric Ely

Thank you for your Wikignome-like edits. What do you think, substantively? Bearian (talk) 21:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm puzzling over why the article is up for AfD, frankly. Does the nom dislike you? I'm just poking around the article for the moment and looking at the sources, and curious what others have to say.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

As you can tell from my comments at the AfD, I found Greg L’s analysis somewhat short of what I think you are entitled to when someone reviews your article at an AfD, and suggests deletion of your article.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

New York energy law

You seem to be everywhere. Thanks for the minor edits. Bearian (talk) 20:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Jon Scheyer GA

Congratulations on the GA. Here are my suggestions for conversion in June:--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:50, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Jon Scheyer
Scheyer vs. Long Beach State (December 29, 2009)
College	Duke
Conference	ACC
Sport	Basketball
Position	Guard
Jersey #	30
Class	Senior
Major	History
Nickname	The "Jewish Jordan"
Career	2006–10
Height	6 ft 5 in (1.96 m)
Weight	190 lb (86 kg)
Nationality	American
Born	(1987-08-24) August 24, 1987 Northbrook, Illinois
High school	Glenbrook North High School, Northbrook, Illinois
Career highlights
Awards
Honors
2006 Illinois Mr. Basketball 2006 All-American (McDonald's, Jordan, PARADE) 2x Duke team captain 2x All-ACC Tournament First Team (2009 & 2010) 2009 ACC tournament MVP 2009 ACC Academic Honor Roll 2009–10 All-ACC First Team 2010 Consensus All-American (second team); 1st team: Lowe’s Senior First Team and Wooden (10-man team); 2nd team: AP, NABC, TSN, USBWA; 3rd team: FOX, YS 2010 Award lists: Robertson (Top-16 finalist), Wooden (Top-10 finalist), Naismith (Top-30 midseason), Cousy (Top-6 finalist), Lowe's Senior CLASS (Top-10 finalist) ACC single-season minutes record (1,470; 2009–10) 2010 NCAA Championship 2009–10 ACC statistical champion (free throw percentage, three point shot/game, assist/turnover)

Jonathan James "Jon" Scheyer (born August 24, 1987, in Northbrook, Illinois) is an All-American 6' 5" guard, who was selected by the XXX with the Xth overall selection in the 2010 NBA Draft. He led his high school team to an Illinois state basketball championship and the 2009–10 Duke Blue Devils to the 2010 NCAA Basketball Championship. He was a prolific high school scorer who earned numerous individual statistical championships in Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) play, ranging from free throw percentage and three point shots/game to assists/turnover ratio.

A high school All-American, he once scored 21 points in a game's final 75 seconds of play in an attempt to spark a comeback. The 4th-leading scorer in Illinois high school history, he led his team to a state championship in 2005 and was named Illinois Mr. Basketball in 2006. He chose Duke, for whom he moved over from shooting guard to point guard towards the end of the 2008–09 season, and was the Most Valuable Player (MVP) of the 2009 ACC Men's Basketball Tournament.

In his senior year in 2009–10 as Duke's captain, he led the team to ACC regular season and Tournament championships and to the NCAA National Championship. He led the championship team in points per game, assists, free throw percentage, and steals per game. Scheyer was a 2010 consensus All-American (Second Team), a unanimous 2009–10 All-ACC First Team selection, and was named to the 2010 ACC All-Tournament First Team. He played the most consecutive games in Duke history (144), and holds the ACC single-season record for minutes (1,470 in 2009–10) and the Duke freshman free throw record (115), shares the Duke record for points off the bench in a game (27).

Scheyer was drafted by the XXX with the Xth pick of the X round (Xth overall, if 2nd round) of the 2010 NBA Draft. If there was a trade to get the pick to select him mention it here. (He is represented by XXX if he has a famous agent like Rob Pelinka or something).

On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, thanks

This user helped promote Jon Scheyer to good article status.

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:54, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

2010 Times Square car bomb attempt

You've been doing incredible work on this article and I wanted to make it clear how much I appreciate your work on it. You've been prolific in editing the article, and adding in relevant information, and while I've followed this story myself, in all of your edits I've not disagreed with you once (maybe I missed something... or maybe I thought the police commissioner should be facing the other direction....). Thank you, and please keep up the good work. I'll try to help as much as I can. Shadowjams (talk) 10:01, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar suggestions for Jimbo

I've never given out a barnstar. But I imagine Jimbo deserves one for this.[1][2][3]

Can anyone suggest which template I might consider using? Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:34, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Replacing "Passengers" with "Activists"

Interested to know the reasons for replacing 'Passengers' with 'Activists' on the Gaza flotilla raid. [4]. The change does not seem very Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Firefishy (talk) 23:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Passenger is a "set" used to distinguish between crew member and others who are not crew members. But it is less descriptive of the role of the people and their purpose than is the term activist. Most passengers are not activists, and it is not the activity that the term passenger brings to mind. But here the purpose of the activity was one of activism. The preferred approach is to use the most descriptive term that is accurate (we could also use the less descriptive term "people", but wouldn't for the same reason).--Epeefleche (talk) 00:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Cool, thank you for the explanation. -- Firefishy (talk) 08:19, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Lacrosse

Hi, I noticed your contributions and thought you might be interested in joining WikiProject Lacrosse. If you are interested in contributing more to Lacrosse related articles you may want to join WikiProject Lacrosse (signup here). --Yarnalgo _talk to me 17:46, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Threeafterthree; Block

Just indeffed Tom for disruptive editing per your report. Thanks, FASTILY ^(TALK) 01:22, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks. One down; it's a start.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:58, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Got a moment?

Hi. I noticed that you just answered a concern for a user over on the wikiquette alert page. Could I impose on you to take a look at my entry and advise accordingly? Thanks. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 05:32, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

• Got your thoughtful response and I thought I should thank you here as well. I'll do what you suggest right away. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 05:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

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Barnstar

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		For turning this into this. Fences&Windows 13:10, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

List of Jews in sports

Consider adding Sam Stoller to the list. He was an NCAA sprint champion and a remarkable man. Cbl62 (talk) 23:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Triple Crown Stats

The infobox does allow for up to six statistics, but those should be used in only the instances of players with records of some sort. This was discussed.--Muboshgu (talk) 03:50, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

This is a conversation that has been had for years. I see a number of the usual participants didn't see or take part in this one. I've just added my thoughts. I think your original comment was spot on -- I remember the days well of only batting average being mentioned in print or TV, but those are long gone. No harm will come from allowing editor discretion. It is retrograde to suggest that BA should be reflected, and OBP or SP or OPS not.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:16, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Review request

It is a small world. Your DYK link for Cordoba House led me to the December, 2009, Times article--your source for the phrase, "its location was a selling point for the Muslims who bought the land." Although I don't recognize the building at all from the pictures, I shopped there when it was being operated by Sy Syms. I still have a couple of his coat hangers from that single trip in the early 1980s.

Curiously, Syms died last year, just about the time that Abdul Rauf was announcing his plans for Cordoba House--I don't think that was the cause.--Komowkwa (talk) 02:50, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on the school webcam lawsuit article

Thanks for your work on Blake J. Robbins v. Lower Merion School District‎. Blue Rasberry 04:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Byron Krieger; birthplace

I really do not understand why you keep putting his place of birth in the lifespan brackets. It does not belong there. Can you please explain your edits, because your edit summary is not sufficient. So what if he competed for the United States? The actual place of his birth (Detroit, Michigan) is not particularly notable - in fact, considering that he did compete for the US, that makes it not particularly notable. If he competed for another country, then maybe it would be worth mentioning, or if he was born somewhere else... but an American competitor being born in the United States is nothing notable. Canadian Paul 14:13, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I got your "will reply soon" email almost a month and a half ago... I think that's more than a reasonable amount of time to wait for a response... Canadian Paul 05:27, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Morgan Stanley Smith Barney

nice work Decora (talk) 17:54, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

If I can help...; sourcing

...with the sourcing of Targeted killing as per that conversation at WP:RS/N, let me know. Bigger digger (talk) 02:51, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

What a kind, generous, offer! Of course -- feel free (if you think it would be helpful). Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:27, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Didn't quite make it today, got a bit side tracked. But you really need to stop fanning the flames that PBS feeds on. There's no need to return repeatedly to the RFC, which will close in its own good time. The conversation at the reliable sources noticeboard could've been wrapped up quite quickly if you'd have said "ok, here are some page numbers". Or ignored it. You would have had to add the page numbers eventually (I figure if you didn't he would add dated fact tags and use that as justification to delete the info after a week), so why not just play his game? He's going to make you play it anyway so you should play in the easiest manner you can. The rules are skewed massively in your favour, and he must enjoy all the pointless forum shopping and pointless debating. Say your piece, do what's necessary, and let time take its course, as we all know there's no deadline! Sorry if this is a bit teaching you how to suck lemons, but I think for your own wiki-sanity it might need saying! And sorry not to reply to your email, but I don't have a suitably anonymous email address set up and don't think it necessary. Best, Bigger digger (talk) 02:45, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Off2Riorob

Hi -- I have noticed your comments about this editor in a few places, including Scottmac's talk page. You might have noticed mine as well: [5], on the Ed Miliband talk page, the Geim page, and [6] here. RFC/U requires that two editors have raised concerns with the user directly, on his talk page. I have already done that (the first link above, which he simply deleted). Nomoskedasticity (talk) 08:05, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes -- As Scott had been intensely involved with both the AN and the Geim page, I thought it would be quite appropriate to afford him the ability to take appropriate admin action. Unless he was too involved already as an editor, as may be the case (though he seemed to be involved in pleading Off2's case (as an editor), which likely would have allowed him to take some action). Scott has not responded. At the very least, especially given Scott's silence, I thought I should give Off2 the opportunity to consider my concerns with his behavior (whether or not I pursue an RFC/U ... which, as it turns out, is something that Scott has mentioned as a possibility as well). So I've just left word for Off2 as well.--Epeefleche (talk) 08:15, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I have not taken any admin action as regards Rob. And I have not "pled his case" either. I archived a thread because I believed that the voluntary agreement covered the most pertinent points. Others were free to disagree with that, or indeed revert my closure. Closing or opening a thread is not an admin action, and if I'd been reverted I would not have closed it again - that would be for others to decide either way. As for Robb's actions, I've not examined them at all. However, it might be best to ask some neutral editor to do that. Generally raising behaviour questions once you are in a content dispute (and particularly one as vexed as categorising BLPs by identity) is more difficult. You will not be seen as objective. If you've concerns about my admin actions, feel free to raise them with me, at the moment I'm not sure I've taken any.--Scott Mac 15:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Scott Mac -- perhaps I misunderstand RFC/U, but I would have thought that the point is precisely to request comments from neutral observers. True, I would not be perceived as objective about O2RR at this juncture -- so the the point would be to request comment from others who would be perceived as objective. Is this not how it works? Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:33, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. I was only suggesting that getting someone uninvolved to mediate might be useful.--Scott Mac 18:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Yemen-Chicago Plot

Thanks for your work on this article! It's developed a lot since I created it a couple of days ago. There's an extra layer of depth now that I wasn't able to provide with just the BBC articles I was using. – Novem Lingvae (talk) 06:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

The article is looking great! I've nominated it to appear on WP:ITN. The discussion is at [7]. – Novem Lingvae (talk) 22:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Good call, as to ITN--I am unfamiliar with it.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

ITN: 2010 cargo plane bomb plot

-- tariqabjotu 16:10, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Yay!!! – Novem Lingvae (talk) 21:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah dude, I'm watching the page views too! Really I just started the article and you took over after the first day. Every time I refresh the page history there's like 20 new edits by you. Good job man! Talk about just diligently reading every newspaper as they put out an article on the issue and incorporating the new facts. I look forward to collaborating on IR articles in the future. :D – Novem Lingvae (talk) 06:51, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

		The Current Events Barnstar
		For fantastic work on expanding the 2010 cargo plane bomb plot article and helping to get it featured on the front page of Wikipedia. Great job! – Novem Lingvae (talk) 06:51, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Geim article

Hi,

I posted a proposal for a cleaner version of the bio. I'm not sure if you check the talk page (plus it was moved up by a few anon. comments) so I though I'd notify you here. Basically, it compresses redundant info. and puts sources in refs. Like, instead of saying something like "The Forward and RussianInfoCentre and Physics World reported that..." it would say ""Several sources (link to footnotes) reported that..." That way it just seems a lot more professional, and the flow improves significantly.

Please check it out, and make any suggestions if you want. Regards, --Therexbanner (talk) 17:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

In concept, it is certainly fine. But it may be that some who are not as quick as you are may need additional assistance.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:07, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I've addressed it in the text, with your notion and those expressed on the tp by others as the guide. Different working, but same concept and I hope it addresses precisely the point you range.--Epeefleche (talk) 23:06, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Geim; Jewish

Why don't you gey over yourself and leave living subjects alone, three Christian Grandparents makes him a whole lot not jewish, all the world can see he is a single quarter jew, the size of which is a minor genetic issue. Also if you are unable to discuss like adult and insst on adding silly templates to my talkpage then stay off my talkpage. Off2riorob (talk) 14:36, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Your understanding of the matter seems, with all due respect, to be perhaps on par with your spelling in your above missive. In any event, please respect core wikipedia policies such as verifiability, consensus, and the Project's general distaste for disruptive editing. Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 14:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

If you are going to cite verifiability, best to read the sources. The RIC did not say he was Jewish, but "born to a Jewish family". I've corrected the text to reflect the sources accurately.--Scott Mac 14:48, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

This brings to mind a conversation we once had regarding the possibility that you might be tag-teaming with an editor. I'm trying to recall his name. Also with regard to the propriety of you acting both as a sysop on an article and as an editor on the very same article, which raises perhaps questions under wp:admin.--Epeefleche (talk) 14:55, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

What the fuck? What is this? Are not we all supposed to working for neutral verifiable content accurate to the sources? I saw a dispute between the two of you, and rather than jump in with blocks and templates I thought the best way to settle was to examine the sources. What's your problem with that?--Scott Mac 14:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

On my talk page, I would appreciate it if you would make an effort to find some other language to express yourself. Children view this page at times. It's a robust language, and in it you may well find similarly satisfactory expressions that they would find perhaps slightly less offensive. As to the substance of what I am saying, I assume your understanding of my comment is such that I need not provide diffs, and discussions of Arb Committee applications of wp:admin, and reference prior AN closes, and the like. This isn't an AN/I or an arbitration -- we're simply seeking to communicate with each other. So I imagine further explication is not necessary here.--Epeefleche (talk) 15:47, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I changed the material to reflect the given sources more accurately. The previous version seriously misrepresented the sources. Would you rather I had left the inaccurate version?--Scott Mac 16:08, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Ignoring your rather energetic exaggeration, I'll limit myself to suggesting that the beginning of your answers lie in WP:ADMIN and the arb cases decided applying the relevant principle.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:10, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I've no idea what you are on about. If you think I've misread the sources let me know. Otherwise, I think I'll just let it go.--Scott Mac 18:18, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Plans; prior AN/I

Thanks for the heads up, I don't think they will succeed but it's good to know they're planning it. Did you let Jayjg know as well?Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 08:23, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

• No -- only you. Jayjg and I have made complaints about each other at AN/I. To put it delicately, he is not really an editor I choose to converse with.--Epeefleche (talk) 08:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

sorry about the musician articles

im sorry to hear that your article was deleted. i personally disagree that conesnseus was firmly reached but i suppose it is what it is. if you want, i would be willing to work with you if we can get an administrator to place the article in userspace. this strategy was effective in saving the Alan Cabal article a while back even though it was put up for deletion 3x by overzealous deletionusts. get back to me whever u have time User:Smith Jones 01:18, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks. Not my article, actually. Just one at which I sought to respond to the nom's issues, by supplying refs to all entries, etc. I'll give your suggestion a think. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:33, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Ike Davis

I watch all the current Mets players and I must say that the Ike Davis article is the best of the lot, by far. Have you considered taking it perhaps to GA?--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 03:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

A quick review of the article astonishes me. Well done! I'd be very surprised if it isn't accepted as a GA. I also suggest going for it. Jusdafax 10:06, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Why, thanks much. OK -- in the New Year I promise to give in to peer pressure and take it to GA. Happy holidays to all.--Epeefleche (talk) 00:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

575th Signal Company

If you would like a copy of this article put in your userspace so you can include details within 75th Infantry Division (United States) or anywhere else, please do say so, and I'll do it. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 21:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind offer. Certainly -- that would be great. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:38, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors

I saw the quality of your contributions at DYK and clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 00:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Jewish Barn Star award

Hi Epeefleche: I have posted the Jewish Barnstar on your user page in recognition of all your great work with Jewish-related articles and topics on Wikipedia. Congratulations! You are now also on my "honor roll" at User:IZAK/awards given by IZAK#User:Epeefleche. Best wishes, IZAK (talk) 13:24, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Juniperus Capital

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:04, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

List of Iranias

Hi Epeefleche, thanks for watching this article! Cheers.Farhikht (talk) 12:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

My apologies

My bad, I didn't realize it is a quote. I just do a quick read on the article and just seems strange to see all caps word. But it's a quote then I agree it should stay. Anyway, I went to this article because I read this ESPN news article about Scheyer. Seeing you as the primary editor on this article, perhaps you would like to add more information about his recovery and his plans for the future from the ESPN news article. Anyway, sorry about my edits, I was acting too fast without checking the reference. — MT (talk) 05:56, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Maybe a candidate for your list?

Sandy Cohen (ice hockey)? Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:35, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the thought. Good hockey player, but not IMHO quite notable enough (compared to the others on the list) .... Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:57, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

?

I've added links for 4-5 people ... Not everything must be removed. Gradually, all will be. Not all at once. I've been working on an article a few months. We must respect the work of others. I understand the rules, but in other statya ethnic lists, too, there are red links. Талех (talk) 15:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I've removed improper links from most if not all nation lists that did not belong, and will likely address the rest as well. Feel free to move them to your workspace to work on them.--Epeefleche (talk) 15:21, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Give the weekend I featured links. Please. Right now I can not restore such a huge material removal. Талех (talk) 15:37, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

We have been discussing this for a number of days now, and I find myself repeating myself. There is no need for the continued massive violation of wiki guidelines -- simply move the material that you wish to work on to your own user page. Violating the guidelines, and edit warring on top, is not an acceptable approach. Move it to your own page, and work on it as your leisure if you like. Do not continue to enforce wiki violations on article talkpages, however. Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 15:40, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Moe Berg

Are you sure that Rockefeller recruited Berg for the OSS? None of the references you cited there say that. Our Moe Berg article says "To do his part for the war effort, Berg accepted a position with Nelson Rockefeller's Office of Inter-American Affairs on January 5, 1942." Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

• Yes -- I have spent the last half hour of my life trying to unwind the edit conflict caused by us both working to improve the article at the same time. So it is going in in pieces. What I have reflects a ref that supports that statement -- I'm not in the habit of making material up, for purposes of inputting it in wp, or acting on what my father told me he knew to be the case. When I work through the edit conflict, it should be clear in the article.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, I look forward to seeing it, and I'll hold off on the article for the time being. When you do add it in, could you format the citation as a ref, rather than as an in-line external link, since that's the format used throughout the article? Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes -- I use the non-inline ref first and save it as such, and then subsequently inline via scrip. You simply were kind enough to beat me to the inlining. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:05, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah!, so there is method to your madness! Beyond My Ken (talk) 07:45, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

List of African writers by country

Hello! I notice you've made a series of edits removing redlinks from this page. Do you mind if I revert your edits, temporarily leaving the unreferences redlinks you've removed, in order to work to provide references for those that I can? Many have entries in a single source, Killam & Rowe's Companion to African Literatures. Best, Dsp13 (talk) 02:42, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

If that's something that you can do right away, as I'm guessing it is if it largely comes from one source, just go for it. If it will take more than a day or two, I would suggest that you copy it to a user page or the talk page, and work on it at your leisure. The guideline is somewhat strict on this, but either way you should be able to address it without too much upset I would think. Best. --Epeefleche (talk) 03:00, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

ta. I'll userfy as you suggest - but if you could hold off doing more to that page for the moment for a couple of days, it'd be great.Dsp13 (talk) 10:53, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

No worries. Nice working with you. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:16, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah...

Sometimes it is hard to see the wood for the trees. Having now seen Fæ's perspective on that conversation... I can't do anything but see it in a new light. I think I do now see where you are coming from, while there was no intention to push anyone away I basically ended up going into a rant about WP:V :S And I finally see what you mean about removing others work; and while that specific example was unintentional (and probably a reasonable removal) I did just offhanded it as "not part of this discussion" :S Damn. I appreciate you getting me to finally consider this appropriately. (More delicately; I don't want this to come off as a way to appease you, reading Fæ's words has made it click and I will reflect on this.. "enthusiasm"). As I mentioned elsewhere in the RFA my other most active online forum is a community where we spar over ideas/thoughts/proposals and I suppose vestiges of that still exists, even if I miss them. Will work on this. --Errant ^(chat!) 11:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Gabe Carimi

Dravecky (talk) 06:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

I appreciate your additions to Orio Palmer. Cullen328 (talk) 14:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Date styles

Heya Epeefleche,

I saw you modified some dates over on the List of home run records. I could care less, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything bad. I thought that styling a date as (example) 27 May was equally acceptable as styling it May 27. Have I been wrong in this assumption?

Hi. No worries. You might want to take a glance at the guideline entitled WP:STRONGNAT, which indicates in pertinent part: "Articles on topics with strong ties to a particular English-speaking country should generally use the more common date format for that nation. For the US this is month before day". I would think that records in major league baseball have a strong tie to the US. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Poor form on my part not signing ... sorry about that. Thanks for the explanation ... I will watch that in the future.

Thanks for the kind words

There should be more editors with your kind of good nature. You help make WP a better place to volunteer. Happy editing! Chris the speller (talk) 20:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Fully agree from my part. Btw, I also like to do flèches but more often in foil than in epée ;). Best regards and thanks again for your comments. 95.23.42.162 (talk) 20:38, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Script tools

I use wikEd on the Firefox browser. Firefox underlines misspellings in red, and wikEd allows the use of JavaScript regular expression syntax to find and correct errors. I have some examples on my /regular subpage. I have many more regular expression scripts, in case you were looking for something special; just ask. Happy editing! Chris the speller (talk) 15:34, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Re: List cleanup

Re your message: You would think it would be possible since there used to be a bot that watched the date pages and kept it clean of redlinks (I don't mean that bot-like editor =)). I think the biggest problem would be identifying all of the various list pages that would need to be monitoring, but I imagine that would be surmountable. I don't program bots, but perhaps one of the bot programmers would be interested in making something. Mufka recently asked Pseudomonas if PseudoBot could be resurrected. I would think that the code from PseudoBot could be adapted to look at other pages, but again, I don't program bots, so I have no real idea of the work involved. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. I left a query at RF's page. Is there anyone else you think I should ask?--Epeefleche (talk) 20:26, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Discussion is taking place here.--Epeefleche (talk) 11:06, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

RFA/boing

right church, wrong pew - I love that; well said.

"Is this the right room for an argument?" hehe.

Gods, I really do hate RfA, sometimes. Always, actually. Chzz  ►  17:22, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing. Classic. All-too-familiar. Really ... classic.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:19, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Heh. There's also a quote from Dr. Strangelove, "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!" — which I think should be the motto of AN. Gotta laugh about these things, otherwise we'd go completely insane.  Chzz  ►  16:13, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Here is an idea--an "AGFN". Modeled on the RSN. Editors there discuss whether another editor has -- by his/her statements/actions -- rebutted the presumption of AgF. Perhaps that would help lower the intensity of the "War Room" discussions. As those editors on the "I've been shown to be not deserving of the assumption" list would have a lesser voice.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:15, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Careful now; allegedly, 2000 years ago, a guy was nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change.  Chzz  ►  03:37, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

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Golden Globes article

• You're welcome. Few things piss me off worse than for me or someone else to do substantial work on an article, and then getting the reaction "Big deal, I still hate it". Mandsford 20:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Sometimes what Peter tell you about Paul, tells you more about Peter than about Paul.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Phishing Alert

Those who happen by this page may wish to be on the alert for efforts to hack into their private email accounts.

As happened to one wikipedia editor, as described in short here.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:19, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Sam Fuld

Since you seem to be active there, I thought I'd let you know I've started the review at Talk:Sam Fuld/GA1. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:00, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk:European American

This may be of interest to you on Talk:European American#Proposal to remove infobox images for this page. Greg L (talk) 21:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

ANI notice

Informational note: this is to let you know that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:Highspeedrailguy. Regards,  Frank  |  talk  22:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Emilia Carr

Hi if you feel like it please check out the Afd discussion for Emilia Carr. I personally believe in Keep for it.. but I wait for your opinion.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:17, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Straw Poll

A straw poll has been asked for by User:Staxringold on whether or not season links should be added to lists of baseball teams. I noticed that you contributed to the previous discussion, but have not yet taken part in the straw poll. If you would like to do so, it can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball#Season wikilinks, under the sub section Straw Poll.--Jojhutton (talk) 14:02, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

For your heads up on phishing

Gimme danger has given you some kittens! Kittens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Kittens must be fed three times a day and will be your faithful companions forever! Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else some kittens, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Spread the goodness of kittens by adding {{subst:Kittens}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message.

Kittens think fish are delicious. Phish, not so much. Danger (talk) 01:40, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Incivility by Bulldog?

What do you make of edits like this? That, and comments like this to an admin suggest to me that he simply enjoys attacking others and has no desire to conform to conduct expected. What do you think? Greg L (talk) 22:53, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, at least you (for your part) addressed the substance of an issue that Bull himself raised to the community, asking for input. Bull's response to your substantive comment appears to be non-substantive.

In addition, I don't have the faintest idea what his reference to a "blog" is all about. It looks from the context and tone like a throw-away effort to bait you. As it doesn't make any sense, I would suggest you simply ignore it.

In general, I'm puzzled by his hostility. He asked a substantive question. You gave a fair, reasoned, substantive response. In turn, he appears to have engaged in a non-civil, non-substantive posting.

As to his public insult to the admin, writing: "How you ever became an admin is a crime against good judgment" -- well, he is entitled to his opinion, of course, but that certainly seems to fall on the wrong side of the civility divide.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:25, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

• And what do you make of this complaint by Bulldog about having someone watch over him. He outrageously slanted the evidence. Wasn’t Bulldog123 following you around literally ten times more aggressively? Wasn’t he starting AfDs on your articles and—if they failed—hen-pecked on them incessantly? Now that seems to be wikihounding. I’m not even editwarring with him; just encouraging him to not edit against consensus as he goes from article to article to push his agenda. I really don’t *get* this guy. Greg L (talk) 19:02, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes -- I've already complained to Bull more than once about his having followed me to dozens of articles (which he never edited before), only to revert my most recent edits there. More than one editor -- including a sysop -- reverted him in turn. That is to my mind was classic wikihounding on his part.

AN/Is call for focus on the editor bringing the AN/I. No doubt, if he brings an AN/I, that his behavior would come to light. It would serve as stark contrast to your substantive engagement of him in your substantive comments, and show that a fairly unusual double standard is being used. It does make one wonder whether he is seeking to simply silence you from expressing a substantive view that is at odds with his. I also note that at least a couple of sysops have indicated that they can no longer afford him the assumption of good faith, given his editing ... I expect that would be relevant in any dispute as well.

As to incivility, Maunus himself has warned Bull for it. It does seem to be an issue that crops up.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:39, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

FL?

I noticed your name and Sportswoman of the Year Award pop up on my watchlist. I think this could be an FL without a tremendous amount of work, though the scope needs to expand and include the 1980-1992 professional and amateur award winners. Interested in working together to get it there? Courcelles 10:34, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Sure thing! Sounds like a fine idea. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 14:21, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Great, I'll try to get the other tables in by the weekend. Courcelles 16:06, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Fuld again

Wow, your talk page is almost as busy as mine! Anyway, I've passed Fuld. Nice work. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:50, 10 March 2011 (UTC) Here:

This user helped promote Sam Fuld to good article status.

76.119.137.236

Thanks for the tip. I've taken this latest probable sock to WP:ANI. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:34, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. 76.119.137.236 (talk) 13:21, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Josh Jasper

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:52, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

IP troll

If that bozo persists, you might want to have your page semi'd. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:37, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the impostor is IP-hopping, so a range block would be needed, and I doubt they would do it. They'd be more willing to semi your talk page. Hopefully neither will be necessary. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:12, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

A1/A3

Hi,

Thanks for your comments previously on my talk page and later at RFA. I have made a firm commitment here about future CSDs, let me know if you would like to see better wording. I am not adding any comment about this in RFA as I believe candidates should be judged on their actions rather than promises and am happy to be judged myself on this basis. Cheers Fæ (talk) 15:55, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. That's an excellent move on your part, I believe, reflecting keen thinking and sensitivity to the issue. I'm sure your RFA will pass, and I look forward to working with you. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 15:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for The Power of Half

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Copyright concerns – fair use rationale for images

Hi there. You recently uploaded a number of images with claims of fair use. In case you were not aware, a rationale of "for use in the infobox" is not sufficient. You must provide a detailed and valid reason for including the image in the article (the purpose) to explain why it meets our non-free content criteria policy. For the images you have uploaded I would say they are "the primary means of visual identification of the subject or topic". Please also see our non-free use rationale guideline for further guidance. Regards, _wjemather^bigissue 10:20, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

In posting yet again on my talkpage, WJE has ignored my clear request that he not do so. A request that I have reiterated to him.

WJE was blocked just two months ago for disruption on my talk page, following his hounding me. WJE protested his block twice, his block was affirmed twice, and he then deleted all mention of his block from his talkpage.

The first affirming sysop said: "It's really not a good idea to fixate on another editor and get into a prolonged conflict with them, which you clearly have done." Yet now, two months later, here WJE is—doing it again. The fact that WJE fixated on my very few recent image-creation edits is a clear sign. The sysop appears to have been correct. I have asked that WJE stop.

The final affirming sysop said to WJE, as to WJE's disruption: "you do not convince me that you won't repeat it". That sysop appears to have been prescient, as well. I have again asked that WJE stop.--Epeefleche (talk) 03:42, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

As you have been told before, the raising of clear and obvious editing problems relating to policy is not hounding, and responding as you have with such accusations will not be tolerated. You would also do well not to quote people out of context and misrepresent what they have actually said.

Despite Greg reaffirming that you must provide proper rationale for these images and giving further guidance, and having had plenty of time, you have still not done so. In my view is is unwise for an editor with an open CCI case to demonstrate further total disregard for copyright issues. This is the final warning you will receive in this regard. Please do as requested and rectify this as soon as possible. _wjemather^bigissue 08:25, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Your message

Could you provide a diff on my talk page, so that I know for sure which particular situation you're talking about? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:45, 19 March 2011 (UTC)