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On a side note, if you're wondering why my signature changes all of the time, I do it because they are all verses from Coldplay songs. Thank you. White Shadows you're breaking up My toolbox New page patrol The newest entry on Wikipedia 22 May 2024 17:3617:36, 22 May 2024 ‎UserːJeanne Angerie/Draft1 (hist | edit) ‎[13,232 bytes] ‎Jeanne Angerie (talk | contribs) (New draft) Tags: Visual edit Disambiguation links added Messages     WikiCup 2010 June newsletter We're half way through 2010, and the end of the WikiCup is in sight! Round 3 is over, and we're down to our final 16. Our pool winners were Ian Rose (submissions) (A), Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) (B, and the round's overall leader), ThinkBlue (submissions) (C) Casliber (submissions) and TonyTheTiger (submissions) (D, joint), but, with the scores reset, everything is to play for in our last pooled round. The pools will be up before midnight tonight, and have been selected randomly by J Milburn. This will be the toughest round yet, and so, as ever, anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Though unaffiliated with the WikiCup, July sees the third Great Wikipedia Dramaout- a project with not dissimilar goals to the WikiCup. Everyone is welcome to take part and do their bit to contribute to the encyclopedia itself. If you're interested in the scores for the last round of the Cup, please take a look at Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2010/Round 3 and Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2010/Full/Round 3. Our thanks go to Stone (submissions) for compiling these. As was predicted, Group C ended up the "Group of Death", with 670 points required for second place, and, therefore, automatic promotion. This round will probably be even tougher- again, the top two from each of the two groups will make it through, while the twelve remaining participants will compete for four wildcard places- good luck everyone! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 cup 2010 Wikicup Semi-finalist Awarded for progression into the 4th round (semi-finals) of the 2010 Wikicup Thanks!--White Shadows There goes another day 15:52, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Missed by ten points with an article at GAN and another at FAC! Oh well. Think of England and its football team ...--Wehwalt (talk) 16:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Wow. I beat out you.... (I would have reviewed your GAN if you just asked!) As for me, I doubt that I'll advance to the finals.--White Shadows There goes another day 16:08, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Well, congrats on that. I tend to stick with my usual writing patterns, and if it isn't good enough for the Cup, it's good enough for me.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:11, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Thanks for the offer, but I think you were away most of the time it's been up.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC) True. I try to not let the cup run how I edit. I use it as a motivator to write instead of useing it as a race. Do you get what I mean?--White Shadows There goes another day 17:15, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Sure, an incentive because it's cool to advance (winning will take major effort at a time of year when you have other things to do), the achievement is nice, and you don't have to worry about real life consequences if you don't make it or choose to deemphasizing, it will not set you back in the zomg cutthroat competition for the various brass rings which are par for the course at this stage of your life (that's a mixed metaphor, by the way, very much so).--Wehwalt (talk) 17:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Exactly, winning, (or beating out 130 others as I have done so far) is just a bonus. What with school comming in the next two months and my own Personal life, I doubt that I'm going to get any farther but I'm still shocked in a way since many people wrote me off in round 1. (I myself thought that I would be one of the 60 eliminated at the end of round 1 who got 0 points) just getting this far was a prize enough for me.--White Shadows There goes another day 17:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Sunshine! :) Sunshine! Hello White Shadows! Meaghan happy canada day ≈ has given you a bit of sunshine to brighten your day! Sunshine promotes WikiLove and hopefully it has made your day better. Spread the sunshine by adding {{subst:User:Meaghan/Sunshine}} to someone else's talk page, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. In addition, you can spread the sunshine to anyone who visits your userpage and/or talk page by adding {{User:Meaghan/Sunshine icon}}. Happy editing! Meaghan happy canada day ≈ 17:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Enjoy the sunshine! :) Sorry I'm asking you this so late (I forgot about this), but has an admin emailed you a copy of Wiki, The musical yet? It doesn't look like anyone's responded to your request. If no one has emailed you a copy and you still want one, I'll ask an admin to email one to you. Cheers, --Meaghan happy canada day ≈ 17:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Thanks! And yes, I have a copy now. Pretty funny to be honest :)--White Shadows There goes another day 17:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC) I read it. There are funnier things on Wikipedia. Have you seen this?--Wehwalt (talk) 17:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC) (dies laughing) Not until just now. I love that "Let's kill all living persons" comment...--White Shadows There goes another day 17:38, 1 July 2010 (UTC) I love the votes more ... --Wehwalt (talk) 17:46, 1 July 2010 (UTC) This is worth checking out too.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:53, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Ha! Malleus does have humor....--White Shadows There goes another day 18:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC) A thought Why don't you come and pester me when you want your submarines moved to mainspace and I'll do it without leaving the redirect behind, which should reduce some of the confusion. Btw, which song is your new sig from? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Yeah that would be better.... It would keep people from makeing comments like "It's three months old so it cannot go on the main page" even though the rules (in a blury kind of way) state otherwise. To answer your question I'll come ping you or Wehwalt when I want to get my pages moved. (But don't delete the sandbox if you can) As for the song, try takeing a look at this the first pice of music that you hear is the end of a live version of the song who's lyrics are in my sig, it's called "So Sad" and was one of the first 10 CP songs written, only 13 seconds of a live version have ever been released and those 13 seonds contain only two lines (includeing the line "There goes another day") It's a shame that the song will never see the light of day.--White Shadows There goes another day 19:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Well the confusion seems to be partly caused by your sandbox recycling methods. If you let me move it without a redirect, the history stays with the new article but your sandbox is effectively deleted, but you can just re-create it with your next project. It's funny, I've never written an article in my userspace. For some reason I've always just started in the mainspace. I probably should draft Nick Parker-type total overhauls in my userspace, but hey, that's what {{underconstruction}} is for! I suppose you have the luxury of time by doing it in your userspace, though. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:17, 1 July 2010 (UTC) You've got that right!--White Shadows There goes another day 20:53, 1 July 2010 (UTC) Hey, I've replied to you over on T:TDYK. I cheated, but I've managed to get both above 1500 characters! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:00, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Talkback Hello, White Shadows. You have new messages at Diannaa's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Redlink cats. Thanks As you can see from my contribs, I have been recategorizing albums extensively for several months now; anything that is a redlink will become blue in a matter of minutes. Please respond on my talk if you have something more to say. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:57, 3 July 2010 (UTC) U-28 U-28 is well written. I was thinking of reviewing it for GA on another day. It is much more interesting than U-36. If I forget about U-28, remind me in a few days. RIPGC (talk) 02:37, 4 July 2010 (UTC) Well thanks :)--White Shadows There goes another day 02:53, 4 July 2010 (UTC) The Wikipedia Signpost: 5 July 2010 News and notes: WMF expansion, community hires, award for MediaWiki, admin recall In the news: Accidentally anonymized donation, democratized learning and more Wikimania preview: Gearing up for Wikimania in Gdańsk WikiProject report: WikiProject Children's Literature Features and admins: This week's highlights Arbitration report: The Report on Lengthy Litigation Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News Read this Signpost in full · Single-page · Unsubscribe · EdwardsBot (talk) 15:21, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Kentucky gubernatorial election, 1899 Please note that Taylor v. Beckham has been created and promoted to GA. Would you now consider withdrawing your opposition to Kentucky gubernatorial election, 1899 becoming a good topic? Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 16:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Certainly :)--White Shadows There goes another day 18:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Adminship Have you ever considered running an RFA? ~DC Let's Vent 17:13, 6 July 2010 (UTC) I have it on my mind. Why?--White Shadows There goes another day 18:21, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Hmm, I'd certainly be interested in being a nom - if you are ready, that is. I think I'll have a chat with Wehwalt to see what he thinks of your growth over the past few months. ceranthor 18:23, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Be my guest. If you guys think that I'm ready, I'll happily accept a nom :) Perhaps I can be of more assistance over at WT:DYK with the tools...--White Shadows There goes another day 18:26, 6 July 2010 (UTC) I can't say whether I would support without doing a little digging, but I can assure you that I've been impressed by how quickly you have matured, and the massive contribution you're now making to Wikipedia. J Milburn (talk) 18:31, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Alright, I've just emailed Wehwalt. We'll see what he says. So, when do we get to work on the submarine article? I fervently apologize for the past few months; I've come to be selfish and focus on dumb things like work and my own "articles". Hopefully you still have it in you to want to work on it. :) ceranthor 18:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC) I think the odds are in your favor, if not tremendously so, and that youth and inexperience (in some people's eyes) are what would be brought up. Perhaps they'd dig up some of your less wise statements from the start of the year. If you feel comfortable going, then go! If you fail (and I don't think it would be an epic fail, as you say these days), you'd be setting up a successful second run at the end of the year. Happy to conom if Cerenthor wants to nom, or vice versa. Either way.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Interesting. Too many chefs risk spoiling the brew, but I'd be happy to add a con-nom if there were a vacancy. The one thing I will add to what we discussed by email is that RfA is tough and it can be stressful and you'd need to keep your cool, even if you feel people are treating you unfairly (which is not unlikely)- just telling you so you'll have some idea of what to expect. I think, given the level of experience in this thread, between all of us, we should be able to come up with a strong nomination dealing with your strengths and a good "acceptance speech" from you acknowledging your weaknesses (your block log, inter alia, will inevitably come up) should put you on a strong footing. Exactly how it would go after that I honestly don't know. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC) I agree, it can be incredibly stressful. I well remember waking up at 4 am and going to the computer to spend the last two hours of my RfA hitting "refresh". Basically, in an RfA, if there is trouble, you must defuse it even if you think it is unfair or unwarranted. Keep your eyes on the prize and don't be hasty to respond. Feel free to ask for advise, off wiki if need be. You have support, use it. We've all been here longer than you. Use us as resources and listen to our advice, then make your own decisions.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC) I looked at yours, if you think that's stressful, you should try 2010's RfA! I have. Twice! :S Wehwalt makes a good point, though- you're always welcome to flick off an email to either or both of us, either to vent or to seek advice. If you pass, the same applies- you've got 4 more experienced admins (though, in my case, only just!) just in this thread and, I for one, would be more than happy to lend a hand, so you should just take things slow and start working in the areas you know best rather than risk biting off more than you can chew. Oh, and if it's successful, keep WP:OWB#37 and 42 in mind! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC) December 2008 is good enough for me. Especially since the last few hours saw me slipping under 80 percent. Anyway, if you do plan to run, watch your contributions very closely from here on in. Glancing at Malleus's concern, I would suggest from here on in, don't even mention one user on another user's talk page unless you are utterly sure they would not mind what you said.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:39, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Not until you're an administrator anyway, then all bets are off, and you can be as abusive as you like. Malleus Fatuorum 22:41, 6 July 2010 (UTC) I would not let adminship go to my head like that. That's just abusing the system.--White Shadows There goes another day 22:43, 6 July 2010 (UTC) The system is designed to be abused, so have at it. Malleus Fatuorum 22:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Regardless, adminship should not be treated as a get out of jail free card and anyone who acts like it is is wrong.--White Shadows There goes another day 22:51, 6 July 2010 (UTC) That's just about the best laugh I've had all day. I'm being hounded by ex-admin Herostratus, but that's OK, because he was an administrator who might be a little bit upset because he's been desysopped. Give me a break, we all know how it works. Malleus Fatuorum 22:58, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Just because we know how it works does not make it any more appropriate.--White Shadows There goes another day 23:01, 6 July 2010 (UTC) I didn't expect to see this much discussion so fast, but I agree with the above that you've grown immensely since last year. I think it's something to consider. I'd offer to co-nominate you, but I don't think it would be helpful. ~DC Let's Vent 20:16, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Don't be expecting my support. The last thing wikipedia needs is yet more administrators carrying grudges.[1] Malleus Fatuorum 20:27, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Indeed, the 2010 RfA is much different than most - though it's perhaps easier for most than the 2009 RfA. Please email me if you would like to proceed; if you want to proceed with HJ and Wehwalt email them too. Try to limit it to two noms - I'd really like to nom, but I'd be okay if either of these two highly respected admins nom'd. ;) Best wishes CE! ceranthor 20:38, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Highly respected admin? Me? Wow. We could always go with the bulky nomination and then 2, much more concise, co-noms. It seemed to work for TFOWR, but I'd be just as happy to defer to Wehwalt and Ceranthor. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:51, 6 July 2010 (UTC) And me? Respected? After what they said about me last election? I succeeded in uniting both sides in the I-P dispute, who put aside their differences in hatred of me.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:15, 6 July 2010 (UTC) First off, thanks everyone :) @Malleus, if that hurt your feelings then I apologize. I honestly did not mean that in a "grudge carrying way" and to be honest, I would not like your personality to change, you were the one who pestered me enough to actually "prove you wrong" in a sense and actually get to writing. That has earned you an imminence amount to respect from me (that that it really means anything coming from a teenager!) @Ceranthor, I would love to get to work on UB I if that's ok with you :) I've been looking forward to this article for a while. I feel like that whoever I'd pick would, I'd be letting the other down. All three of you have been really helpful to me in the past months.--White Shadows There goes another day 21:10, 6 July 2010 (UTC) It's all very well to tell someone to check their email, but you should check your own inbox first, my friend! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:26, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Got it.--White Shadows There goes another day 23:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC) And again.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:43, 6 July 2010 (UTC) replied. Sorry it's short. I was in the middle of RL...--White Shadows There goes another day 23:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Short emails are good. Check your inbox for one now.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:59, 6 July 2010 (UTC) I don't think that I got it...--White Shadows There goes another day 00:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I !voted neutral in your RfA, but if you answer my question (Q4) well enough, I might just support. I am very interested in the answer regardless. —fetch·comms 02:39, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I've answered it. Thanks.--White Shadows There goes another day 02:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Sorry to say this, but I think this RfA is too soon. I would have to agree with what HJ said on our email conversation. I also !voted neutral. Since there's only 24% support I would recommend withdrawing this RfA and trying again in a few months. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 15:43, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I've already done that. Thanks :)--White Shadows There goes another day 15:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC) You probably don't expect to see this here after the comments I made in your RFA, but I just wanted to: Congratulate you for your composure at a difficult time Apologise for anything that I said which may have offended you Encourage you to keep improving and try again later Offer my help in the (very unlikely) event you might feel you ever need it I'm particularly impressed that you never tried to hide your past. I think that does you enormous credit, and will benefit you in the long run. Anyway, I'll bugger off now, since I have no doubt you have better things to do than read this crap. Good luck - Begoon (talk) 16:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Thank you for that. you'll be seeing some thank spam soon so I'll properly talk to you then :)--White Shadows There goes another day 16:13, 7 July 2010 (UTC) You're welcome. The bit I meant the most in my comments was that you'll be a good admin someday. You will. - Begoon (talk) 16:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC) A note When you copy text from one article to another, make sure that you include a wikilink to the source article in your edit summary. See WP:CWW for more information. :) Regards, Theleftorium (talk) 19:00, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Thank you. I'll keep that in mind :)--White Shadows There goes another day 21:11, 6 July 2010 (UTC) The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : LII (June 2010) The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue LII (June 2010) Front page Project news Articles Members Editorial Project news Catch up with our project's activities over the last month, including the new Recruitment working group and Strategy think tank Articles Milhist's newest featured and A-Class content Members June's contest results plus the latest awards to our members Editorial LeonidasSpartan shares his thoughts on how, as individual editors, we can deal with frustration and disappointment in our group endeavour To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 19:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Ann Coulter See User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Ann_Coulter. ★Dasani★ 22:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC) Excues me for asking but what does this have to do with me?--White Shadows There goes another day 22:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC) DYK for German submarine U-109 (1940) — Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I realize you're busy but I've added a citation for the mausoleum. Thanks for looking at the article, and for your support. Hope you enjoyed it.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:00, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Thanks :)--White Shadows There goes another day 01:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC) FYI, I just added my co-nom, WS. ceranthor 01:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Thanks Ceranthor. That meant a lot to me :)--White Shadows There goes another day 01:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC) You have email. ceranthor 11:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot SuggestBot predicts that you will enjoy editing some of these articles. Have fun! 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I do hope you will continue your terrific work and run again when you feel that most of the issues have been taken care of. I look forward to supporting. PrincessofLlyr royal court 16:58, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I'd just like to add, what a wonderful opening, and I agree with every word (as I tried to say above) . You'll be a good admin, and I'm sorry I had to oppose you this time - Begoon (talk) 17:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC) No problems. I'll try to work on writing (and not a minimum set of GAs or DYKs) rather than "jumping in feet first". When I run again, I will make sure that all of my issues that have been brought up in RFA #1 will be addressed. Thanks for commenting :)--White Shadows There goes another day 17:17, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I wholeheartedly agree with PrincessofLlyr: you behaved admirably; I'm really sorry I opposed, because you're a net positive, but I think you're not entirely ready yet; in a couple of months, however, I'll be glad to support you! Salvio ( Let's talk 'bout it!) 17:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Thanks. Now I've gotta make up for all of those talk page edits that I made with my Thank spam. *Walks over to DYK*--White Shadows There goes another day 17:39, 7 July 2010 (UTC) If this [2] is how you are going to act, I wouldn't go for that second RFA anytime soon. I'm sure I don't have to remind you of WP:NPA since you've been blocked for it before. Admins are expected to be helpful and polite with clueless users, not dismissive and insulting. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:40, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Um Beeblebrox....that was not me, that was HalfShadow!--White Shadows There goes another day 17:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Oh, CRAP. Clearly it is time for Beeblebrox's coffee break. Sorry about that. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC) No problems ;)--White Shadows There goes another day 17:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Thanks. I really would love to have supported this time. I'm sure I will next time - there's a remarkable improvement in your contributions that I'm sure will continue (sorry to be the serious one at the party) - Begoon (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2010 (UTC) No problems at all. I expect this contiune for a few more minutes so I'll just finish up making the prep extra over at DYK.--White Shadows There goes another day 17:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I'm sorry your RFA had to end like this. I believe that if you run again later this year, more users will feel that you're ready. You've made such a major improvement from last year, and someday you'll make a great administrator. I look forward to supporting you in a future RFA. Cheers! --Meaghan :) ≈ 17:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Thank you Meaghan :)--White Shadows There goes another day 18:00, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I agree with pretty much everything above. Keep up the good work, get some more experience, and you'll have my support the next time. :) Theleftorium (talk) 21:47, 7 July 2010 (UTC) You're the Dylan620 of 2010, dude, and I mean seriously: You had a rough start, like I did. You turned around, like I did. You didn't make it through RfA, like I didn't. But I know you're more capable of the mop than I am - you're a better writer and you're more focused, for starters. I seem to have the attention span of a rock. :/ Basically, you're going down a path not dissimilar to mine, only you're going farther down it than I did. Good luck, buddy, and as Dexter Holland once said: "You're gonna go far, kid." And on a secondary note, I lol'd quite hard at your exchange with Beeblebrox above. ;) --Dylan620 (contribs, logs) 21:55, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Rocks have pretty good attention spans. I've known some to concentrate so hard they don't move for hours even.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Sorry it didn't work out, WS. I think you gave great answers to the questions, even though Q6 was a really tough one. And I think you're on the right track already for being able to pass RfA in the future, though working on the areas you are weak in certainly will help, and is a good thing even aside from its use in passing RfA. —Soap— 23:29, 7 July 2010 (UTC) It's ok. At least the opposers said that they are open for a future RFA so perhaps next time will be better. I'll try to get to work on my weaker areas ASAP :)--White Shadows There goes another day 23:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Did they? All of them? Malleus Fatuorum 23:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC) With the exception of a few people including you.--White Shadows There goes another day 23:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Remember what I said by email last night. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:51, 7 July 2010 (UTC) (edit conflict) My point is that these editors are not omniscient; it depends on what you do in the future, which they can't predict, and neither can you. The "I'll support in X months" cant is just that, meaningless cant. Try again when you know that you're ready. Malleus Fatuorum 23:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I said that. I know that I can only earn their support if I continue on the road that I am on and fix the issues that I have.--White Shadows There goes another day 23:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I don't want to cause offence, but you would do well to demonstrate that you know that adminship is no just a rite of passage for editors who have X many edits in Y many months but just a few extra buttons which, while very shiny, are really quite boring, never mind the trolling it attracts- you saw that 4chan shit on my talk page, for example. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC) I know that it is not a rite of passage but how can I go about doing that?--White Shadows There goes another day 00:16, 8 July 2010 (UTC) Just focus on enjoying what you do and improving the encyclopaedia rather than worrying about admiship. If it happens that you would have a real use for the tools towards the end of the year, then you might start thinking about another RfA, but for now, just put it out of your mind. As I've said before, feel free to come and bug me if you need something done at DYK that needs a mop. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC) Thanks. I'll take that in mind.--White Shadows There goes another day 00:16, 8 July 2010 (UTC) FWIW, being here should be about what you want to do, and what makes you happy. If you really believe in your heart of hearts that the only thing that will make you happy is achieving adminship, then do what you believe is necessary to earn trust and support. On the other hand, you could simply continue doing what you've been doing, be yourself, enjoy yourself, without putting yourself in a position where you think your every move will be watched. Had I known this would happen so fast I would have advised you to wait. Today I was working on an article, and by the time I was done the RfA was closed. I think closing quickly was wise, and I think you're taking this well, because I'm sure it was a disappointment. Be yourself - and be happy. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC) I am going to keep being myself. While I felt a little offended by a few of the opposes, I'm glad that I went for it since I have learned a lot and can now work on my weak areas.--White Shadows There goes another day 00:39, 8 July 2010 (UTC) Echoing others above, I commend your composure throughout your RFA. It's not easy (I know from experience). The comments made by PrincessofLlyr, HJ Mitchell, and Truthkeeper88 here especially stood out to me. Do what you like to do. Otherwise, I'd consider Wikipedia a huge waste of time. As long as I enjoy it, I feel that my time is worth something to me and others. I'll be watching out for Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/White Shadows 2, but please, take your time :). Regards, Airplaneman ✈ Review? 03:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC) Thanks. And I assure you that I will take my time in addressing these issues. I was originally thinking December but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it :)--White Shadows There goes another day 03:13, 8 July 2010 (UTC) Really - just stop thinking about adminship for the forseeable future. Your nominators did you no favours in putting you forward and most Opposers went out of their way to be kind and positive given the impression you've made and the prospect of you with the tools. Those who chase adminship as a gong or as some mechanism for self-fulfillment invariably - and rightly - come to grief. You've made good progress on articles - likewise forget the "there, that's enough, now whre's my badge" GA-chasing and concentrate on writing good copy on the details of stuff that really interests you. BTW, my old man just gave me a pile of good books on submarines, WW2, etc. I'll check out what you're working on and see if I can pass on some prime non-Google info and sources. Plutonium27 (talk) 23:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC) I'm not chaseing anything and I'm not thinking of GA's a a competiton. Otherwise I'd be writeing on overdrive. I have a life outside of Wikipedia you know! Trust me, I only whent for it because I thought that I could be of more use at DYK ect. (Hense the limited admin related areas) Thanks for the offer on the submarines though ;)--White Shadows I ran away from you 23:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC) A general rule of verbs (doing words) ending in "e" eg. make, write, chase, etc - is that when they get the "ing" ending, you drop the "e" eg. making, writing, chasing. Please, even if you can't get Firefox to sort all this out for you automatically, then try to grasp the basic rule that most of us had mastered by our nation's equivalent of 4th grade. Check also when a "w" has an "h" following and when it doesn't. Went doesn't, when does. Weenie doesn't, whining does. Why does, woman doesn't. There's no easy rule there- its called reading and remembering. Please - for the 1000th-seeming time of asking - sort your spelling out. Plutonium27 (talk) 16:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC) OK I have firefox on and I'll be using it from now on so hopefully you will no longer see any spelling errors from me. (Though calling my spelling worse than a 4th grader really was not needed)--White Shadows I ran away from you 16:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC) In the local slum-serving London primary school I went to (ages 8-11), we were expected to know to drop the "e" after the consonant on verbs ending in "ing" by the beginning of our second year there (= your US 4th grade). Calling your spelling 4th grade is both accurate and needed, White Shadows, because it is that bad. That is why you get nagged about it - because of your failure to comprehend and correct these persistent, basic mistakes. Sort it out but understand why people got pissed it took you so long. Plutonium27 (talk) 17:07, 10 July 2010 (UTC) I think you've made your point, Plut. Sometimes being blunt can be effective, but once you've made your point, you don't need to keep hammering it home- that's the distinction between being frank and just being rude for the sake of it. WS, you could try Google Chrome if you wanted- it has a spell checker, but I find it quicker and nicer to use than Firefox. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:14, 10 July 2010 (UTC) A comprehensive knowledge of this user's habits and communiques shows that hammering it home, time and again, is regrettably but precisely exactly what it takes to make the necessary points sink in and stick. It is the only proven course of input that got WS out of the trap of his juvenile fuckupery - as he has acknowledged time and agin viz. the input from Malleus. It may be way more blunt than suits your personal WP:political sensitivities, HJ, but calling it rude is nothing more than your white-knighting proclivities getting butthurt because you were instrumental in getting WS clobbered in the RfA by joining in his teenage cheerleading squad. Plutonium27 (talk) 18:02, 10 July 2010 (UTC) Plut, that was not necessary. You've made your point and I'll take your advice (notice any spelling errors in this post or any of my latest ones?) Now please stop, the both of you.--White Shadows I ran away from you 01:14, 11 July 2010 (UTC) What the hell? I missed your RfA?! I have been gone a long time. Sorry, WS, I would've supported :D Spongefrog, (I am Czar of all Russias!) 21:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC) DYK for German submarine U-27 (1936) — Rlevse • Talk • 18:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Advice Hello, White! Can you help me, and review my DYK proposal here. I am still new with this process. Is that ok? Template_talk:Did_you_know#Articles_created.2Fexpanded_on_July_7 at Bubanj Memorial Park What do you think about it? All best! --Tadijaspeaks 18:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC) I've verified it. Nice job :)--White Shadows There goes another day 18:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC) O, so nice, thanks! Just tell me what is AGF? Can i do something about it? --Tadijaspeaks 18:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC) WP:AGF one of our core policies. You cannot really do anything a AGF hook but it doen't really matter, the hook will go on the main page in the next few days.--White Shadows There goes another day 18:14, 7 July 2010 (UTC) O, God, that! OK, i didn't realize you think of that! Well, ok then! Very nice! Thanks! --Tadijaspeaks 18:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC) No problem. Oh and another thing, when you add in a nomination of your own, consider reviewing another nom. It cuts down the backlog that plagues DYK on a day to day basis.--White Shadows There goes another day 18:21, 7 July 2010 (UTC) ОК, i will! All best! --Tadijaspeaks 18:25, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Thanks Thanks for verifying that MoH winner for me- that was bloody quick. :) Oh, and some comfort food for you: HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:10, 7 July 2010 (UTC) HJ Mitchell has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching! Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}! I sometimes try to get new noms out of the way so others can review the older ones faster. Thanks for the cookie!--White Shadows There goes another day 18:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Talkback Hello, White Shadows. You have new messages at RP459's talk page. Message added 19:06, 7 July 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Ping You have email x 2. Nothing urgent.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC) RE: Spelling help FYI - The Firefox browser will mark spelling errors in the Wikipedia "content" box which could help you correct problems before hitting "save page". Active Banana (talk) 19:38, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Also you can use lots of monobook.js scripts in Firefox too, a lot of which can't be used, or aren't actively supported in IE. If I'm not mistaken, WP:Twinkle is one of them. And, IMHO, it just looks better. The Thing // Talk // Contribs 04:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC) I know. In fact I'm using it right now but when I come back from vacation, my computer in my actual house doesn't have enough "room" to download firefox. I'm still in the process of transferring over a lot of my stuff on that one to a new one so perhaps in a few months or so I'll be able to permanently use FF.--White Shadows There goes another day 14:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC) Heh, it doesn't have enough room? Wow. Well if you have a spare flash drive laying around, there's a portable version of firefox that you can install on that drive. The Thing // Talk // Contribs 20:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC) Hello, White Shadows. You have new messages at Connormah's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Connormah (talk | contribs) 20:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Wow thanks! I'll download that now!--White Shadows There goes another day 20:55, 8 July 2010 (UTC) Talkback Hello, White Shadows. You have new messages at Immunize's talk page. Message added 20:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Talkback Hello, White Shadows. You have new messages at NerdyScienceDude's talk page. Message added 21:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 21:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Could you have a look? at T:TDYK#John Tracy (Medal of Honor recipient). Something seems to have buggered up after your comment, but it's 2AM here and I'm just trying to make a dent in the AfC backlog before I go to bed, so could you figure out why the section below it isn't displaying when it shows up in the wikitext? Ta, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:42, 8 July 2010 (UTC) I've tried to fix it but It won't work....--White Shadows There goes another day 00:44, 8 July 2010 (UTC) Talkback notification Hello, White Shadows. You have new messages at Nick Ottery's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. DYK comment Dear, White Shadows, I have addressed your comment at T:TDYK#National Archives of Indonesia. Thanks for you help. Arsonal (talk) 08:34, 8 July 2010 (UTC) DYK for German submarine U-1163 — Rlevse • Talk • 12:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC) DYK for Revoljucija — Rlevse • Talk • 12:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC) Ping! You have mail. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:13, 8 July 2010 (UTC) I'm hiding this message here so others will not see it. I am not sure what to do about U-28. It is very interesting. However, some may say that it is too short because it doesn't cover the ship that well. The patrols are covered but actual information on the ship is one large paragraph. I don't want to call it a "fail" but maybe someone else can review it. If there is another category, like "I like it", then it passes! RIPGC (talk) 04:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC) It seems to cover the ship perfectly fine. There is a nice lead (though it could use a bit of expansion) and it also covers the technical side of the U-boat as well as giving info on every patrol.--White Shadows There goes another day 15:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC) Talkback Hello, White Shadows. You have new messages at Template_talk:Did_you_know#Andrew_J._Weaher. Message added 01:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Question Do you think Rafa42 (talk · contribs) is a Guitarherochristopher sock? ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 01:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC) To be honest, no. He is likely a member of Coldplaying.com (as am I)--White Shadows There goes another day 01:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC) Could you have another look? Hey, can you take another look at this DYK nom? You verified it, then it turned out there were some copyvio issues from the AfC submission which were removed, taking it below 1500 characters but I've expanded it so could you take a look so it doesn't get lost in the sea of DYK noms? :) Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC) Verified :)--White Shadows I ran away from you 19:30, 9 July 2010 (UTC) Much obliged. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC) Academy Fight Song I decided to remove the tag on the article Academy Fight Song in which you nominated for speedy deletion. However I brought it up to Articles for deletion for a consensus to be made. Minimac (talk) 06:11, 10 July 2010 (UTC) Musical tastes maturing, maybe? :)--Wehwalt (talk) 10:43, 10 July 2010 (UTC) Wow. When I first saw the article, it was an easy CSD candidate. Good to see that it was improved a bit. I'll take a look at it now.--White Shadows I ran away from you 14:12, 10 July 2010 (UTC) DYK nomination of Rudyard Kipling (ship) Hello! Your submission of Rudyard Kipling (ship) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! AngChenrui (talk) 13:51, 11 July 2010 (UTC) DYK for Action Man: Search for Base X I went ahead and added an alt for the DYK (see here to find the area where it is right now). Sorry it's still rather dull, but the game was kind of meddling and mediocre. Nomader (Talk) 17:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC) List of Nunavut general elections Hi! Thanks for yout offer of help. I think the best thing you could do help get this article up to FL status (and hence get Canadian elections back up to FT status) would be to follow the suggestions at User talk:Tompw#List of Nunavut general elections. Cheers. Tompw (talk) (review) 20:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)