Talk:Czechoslovakian Wolfdog

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Images[edit]

I think that there are probably too many images here. Generally you only want to put in images that add to the article. Perhaps you can pick two that you like the best and remove the others? Fightindaman 01:00, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

As helpful hints, what is usual for dog-breed articles would be images of dogs with obviously different coat colors (although it looks like that might not apply to ths breed?), or participating in activities (my favorite) so people can see the dog in action, or face-on shots of the head so that people can get an idea of what's going to be looking at them :-), or anatomical details of interest, stuff like that. And captions are more helpful if they say something like "Wolfdog with gray coat; they also come in chartreuse" or "This dog's mask is pale grey and extends to the tip of his nose" or like that-- whether the dog is male or female isn't really of use in looking at most photos. So I definitely like the full-body one in the breed box, and maybe one of the two existing head shots unless there's something usefully different that a caption can point out about them.Elf | Talk
Signed for archive purposes only.  William Harris |talk  07:58, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

"Wolf-dog hybrid" comment[edit]

With the reclassification of dogs as a subspecies of wolf, that kinds makes the "wolf-dog hybrid" comment inaccurate. I think a more accurate wording would be "wolfdog breed". Also, the plan was to "enhance" the German Shepherd for the tasks that were required. Draggar (talk) 20:32, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Move out-of-sequence post[edit]

to who ever is making changes to this page please stop! We have not entered into any edit wars, every day someone has changed our links and sources and removed our text we have simply added back our details and links. The links to this site are in our forum and we guide people here. they then come back to us and state the links and information have been removed and another body named vlcak.co.uk have removed our details and placed theirs in there is no war however the people who keep making changes are in relation to vlcak.co.uk and have nothing to do with our GB club we understand this is a free site but it is unfair that representatives of the vlcak.co.uk and wolfdog.org feel the need to do this every day we find our links gone and changes made. we simple add ours back to the list and then the next day its gone or within the hour ? we may have to remove our links directing members to this page as the actions of representatives of vlcak.co.uk and wolfdog.org are behaving in this manner. can we protect this page? or should we just state to our members that the page can not be accredited and remove our links to your site? Shame on these people for using their behaviour to discredit our group. Can whom ever is making changes stop this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csvgb (talkcontribs) 10:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I have moved your out-of-sequence post; when not responding to a previous topic, use 'New section', which will correctly place it at the bottom. This is not your page; see Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. Your site was not cited as the reference when building it, and is unacceptable as a bare url reference without identifying which material it is supporting, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. If no references are cited, the page may be challenged and deleted. If a website is used as a reference, it should then be removed from External links. I have corrected the display of the website title; this is the English language Wikipedia; from the Wikipedia:Manual of Style: 'Plain English works best: avoid ambiguity, jargon, and vague or unnecessarily complex wording.' Dru of Id (talk) 12:34, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou for the correction, clear information and also leaving the weblink in place today! we shall see how long this lasts and if it continues we will ofcourse ask for the whole page to be removed as advised via the links you have provide It is shameful that people use this portal to continue a removal of important links giving all readers a chance to make their own decisions.[user:csvgb] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csvgb (talkcontribs) 14:59, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello Excirial I dont know where to contact you as you state on my talk to contact you if they make changes again and bingo today the lady from bulgaria has changed our link to hers it is rediculous that she persists and although we agree we have each time she makes the changes changed it back this time we have waited for you to take action. If she has had the warning then since her warning she has done this twice and still no ban please can we keep our link on czechoslovakian wolfdog page we find it so time consuming coming back every day to see her undo is there anything you can do? again I am so sorry to write here I didnt know what else to do to ask for help and we have refrained from doing the undo ourself because its becoming cat and mouse games (User talk:csvgb talk)

Czechoslovakian Vlciak Club of Great Britain this link again was removed 15/03/2013 by the same people who were warned not to do this by the moderator here it is another cat and mouse game and unfair please stop this foolish and childish game and vlcak.co.uk you should be ashamed of yourselves you are a link to wolfdog.org and dont even have an established club in the UK leave us to work for the benefit of the breed there is room in this world for everyone! (User talk:csvgb talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csvgb (talkcontribs) 16:27, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved per the majority in favor and the general use of capitalization in Category:Dog breeds. The content of the article makes clear that this is a dog breed and not a new species of animal. If it were a separate species we might be tempted to use sentence case. EdJohnston (talk) 04:19, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


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Czechoslovakian wolfdogCzechoslovakian Wolfdog – To coincide with about 10 text mentions with a capital W and not one with a small w. Relisted. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:27, 5 February 2014 (UTC) SergeWoodzing (talk) 07:47, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

  • Oppose – It matters not what is in the Wikipedia article, but what the sources say. The sources could be improved, but I took a look at the current ones. Both capitalised and non-capitalised versions are present. So there seems to be no particular "accurate" way at the moment, plus the rationale is not valid. C679 10:30, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
  • It should be added that there is significant presence of "Czechoslovak" rather than "Czechoslovakian" as the name, which should also be established. C679 10:34, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Can we agree that it looks illogical, confusing and inappropriate that the dog's name in the whole article text has another format than that in the article's name? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 11:38, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

  • That's a content issue, not necessarily an issue for which to move the title. You could just be bold and de-capitalise the instances. C679 12:53, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Anyone else care to weigh in here? I am a firm believer in consistency and would like someone to explain why we e.g. have an article called German Shepherd (not German shepherd). Is it because "Shepherd" cannot be considered the name of a group of species, whereas "wolfdog" is such a group name? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:11, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

This seems to come up intermittently in various dog breed articles - the norm appears to be to use initial caps; I think the most recent discussion was here. SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:17, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
See Saarloos wolfdog and Kunming wolfdog. While I agree with Cloudz679, I think SergeWoodzing raises an important point; as wolfdog is seemingly closer to concepts like shepherds or collies or spaniels, than it is to lynx, badger or otter. I'm actually for lower-casing dog breed names if possible. Timmyshin (talk) 18:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Support, but it sort of depends on how the subject is treated. Dog breeds get title-case capitalization, while animal species do not. I suppose a wolfdog could be considered either one, and indeed, Category:Wolf-dog hybrids demonstrates the mixed usage. Consistency is desirable, though I'd be fine with one sort of capitalization for wolfdogs and another for conventional dog breeds. --BDD (talk) 20:14, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. This is not a new animal species, Canis lupus familiaris and Canis lupus lupus are both of the same species, so it's just a new breed, and so should be captitalised like other members of Category:Dog breeds and its subcategories. Andrewa (talk) 07:59, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Is the standard for dog breed names documented? Where? Andrewa (talk) 07:59, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Common dog in Slovakia[edit]

This isn't really encyclopaedic, but by observation it's a much more common breed in Slovakia than 50 pups registered per year nationwide would suggest - I assume most are not registered. Sorry that isn't actionable but if anyone finds info that contradicts/clarifies the article then please be inclined to believe it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.237.234.100 (talk) 18:33, 10 September 2016 (UTC)