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Bold text== Military Alliance Section & "Degree" Star rating==

East Asia/ North East Asia: East Asia: Korean Peninsula, Japan, and Northeastern Part of China. The Island of Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, and Singapore all part of South East Asia or Southern China.


What is the point of "Degree" Star ratings of military alliances?? there is no reason to believe China's word on Sino-DPRK 1961 MDT isn't as strong as US-JPN or US-ROK MDTs. There is a reason afterall for NK's continued existence.Phead128 (talk) 13:11, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Bhutan[edit]

Is Bhutan considered part of East Asia? If Mongolia and Tibet are then I don't see why it isn't.-Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.43.169.142 (talk) 00:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

No, not by most sources. In fact, I'd say Bhutan's culture and geographical region is closer to South Asia or India than East Asia or China. - M0rphzone (talk) 09:17, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
By convention, no. However, most Bhutanese speak Sino-Tibetan languages. 73.243.151.79 (talk) 12:08, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Hong Kong and Macau[edit]

Whether or not Taiwan is a separate country might be up for argument (I wont bother with this mess). These two, however, are definitely not separate countries, therefore should not be listed under "countries." Special Administrative Regions are not countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.137.233 (talk) 00:58, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

East Asia vs. North and Southeast Asia[edit]

i think there is confusion regarding the differences between East, Northeast, and Southeast Asia on this page. East Asia is the overarching region and should include both Northeast and Southeast Asian countries which are distinct subregions of larger East Asia. This "East Asia" page currently only represents Northeast Asian countries and should not be titled "East Asia" as it currently stands. It should be updated to include the mainland Southeast Asian countries (Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Myanmar or Burma) and the islands and archipelagos (Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei) to provide readers with a more accurate description of the region and it's subregions. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unagibloggy (talkcontribs) 03:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Personal opinion isn't enough to serve as sources for any content that you want to add. You'll need reliable sources, otherwise your proposal/opinion is just original research. - M0rphzone (talk) 09:17, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Japan a 'Core Region'?[edit]

The map 'location eastasia shows japan as a 'core region' of east asia. My problem with this is that I have two atlases that both show it as being a seprate region. So, should it be changed to light green, 'sometimes included'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.93.187.141 (talk) 19:39, 8 January 2012‎

Same as above. Maybe you saw something stated specifically on your copy of an atlas or world map, but until they are identified as reliable sources, personal opinion and "I saw/they saw" isn't enough to serve as sources for any content that you want to add. You'll need reliable sources, otherwise your proposal/opinion is just original research. - M0rphzone (talk) 09:17, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Variation in English usage.[edit]

A moderately notable modern semantic difference between the English language used in different countries, is that the unqualified word "Asian" in Britain tends to refer to people from South Asia ( India and nearby countries ), but in the USA and Australia it tends to refer to East Asians ( China and nearby countries ). This sometimes causes confusion.Eregli bob (talk) 10:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

It's mentioned at Asian and Wiktionary. - M0rphzone (talk) 09:17, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Vietnam?[edit]

But it's not highlighted on the map.... and my understanding is that it's South Asia (Along with Thailand, etc).... Plus the Wikipedia categories list "Russia" (parts of it) not Vietnam... Please fix.--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 19:36, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Vietnam is considered part of Southeast Asia. Bobbbcat (talk) 02:59, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Culture-wise Vietnam is East Asian and should have a stronger presence in all chapters. Compare here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asian_cultural_sphere

James Watson[edit]

East Asian = high IQ Mongoloid (not Inuit, Amerindian and Southeast Asian) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:410F:F200:5099:16D:18D3:761 (talk) 03:05, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Request for edit[edit]

The notes column for Independence Movement is entirely unsourced and contains at best biased, if not false, information. Both PRC and ROC claim Tibet, Inner Mongolia, and Xinjiang, and ROC in addition still officially claims Mongolia, due to their successor state status to the Manchu-ruled Qing Dynasty, which had internationally recognized sovereignty over those regions. While military action and Han migration did occur under PRC, these were not the origin of Chinese control of the territories, and the notes completely skims over the complexities of these issues. I suggest link to each movement's respective Wikipedia page instead. Additionally, Inner Mongolia Independence Movement is a minor movement that's more comparable to Cascadia Independence than those of Tibet and East Turkestan. Also, East Turkestani is not the demonym of proposed East Turkestan; the movement is largely associated with Uyghurs, and it lacks support from other Muslim groups historically occupied the region such as Kazakhs and the Hui. And the table is messing up with the page's format toward the end. 73.243.151.79 (talk) 12:08, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Mariana Islands[edit]

This page lists the Mariana Islands as part of East Asia, Miaoxigrenren claims they are part of East Asia as the Northern Mariana Islands are part of the East Asian Football Federation and therefore they are part of East Asia. But using that as evidence the Mariana Islands shouldn't Australia be listed in the Asia page as it is in the Asian Football Confederation? As of now I have removed the Mariana Islands. Bobbbcat (talk) 22:31, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

I agree. I've never seen either Guam nor the Northern Mariana Islands be considered part of East Asia. According to the East Asian Football Federation page, even Palau was being considered to be a member of the organization. Selection of members appears to be strictly geographical (see Asian Football Confederation), with countries being divided into West, Central, South, East, and South East. Seems to be based out of geographical convenience than any real reason. As a side note, Australia is included in South East Asia. -Multivariable (talk) 01:58, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
I disagree. Since Guam is an East Asian Country, and Mariana Islands is right next to Guam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miaoxingrenren (talkcontribs) 02:06, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Do you have any sources for this? As I mentioned above, the ASF is neither a definitive nor accurate source. Multivariable (talk) 05:49, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

TAIWAN IS A PROVINCE OF CHINA[edit]

According to the "United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758", the People's Republic of China is the only legitimate representative of China, there is no 2nd China called "Republic of China". According to ISO 3166-2 used by Wikipedia, Taiwan (TWN/TW) is a province of China (CHN/CH) There is no Country existed in this world recognizes Taiwan as a Country, and only 21 countries recognize the "Republic of China" as the solo legitimate representative of entire China. Taiwan is just one of eight provinces under "Republic of China"'s division system.

Several concerns but I'll try to address the main ones. First, this isn't a discussion about who is the "only legitimate representative of China". I'm not sure why this is being brought up. This is about whether Taiwan should be listed under China in the page tables. ISO 3166-2 is a standardized coding system, so I'm not following why this is relevant.
Some of what you're proposing has been discussed ad nauseam on Taiwan's talk page. (I'd encourage you to look through the archives as well.) The consensus is reflected on the page. Note that nowhere in the article does it indicate that Republic of China (Taiwan) is a province of of the People's Republic of China (China). If you think this is inaccurate, I would encourage you to discuss it. "Taiwan" is the common name of the Republic of China, hence the page title (see WP:COMMONNAME). You can find many discussions about the page move from "Republic of China" to "Taiwan", including the most recent one. [1] Other uses for the term "Taiwan" are outlined at the top of the page, as well as in the disambiguation page (which addresses your concern about Taiwan Province).
Also, please refrain from leaving messages like this [2] on users' talk pages (see WP:AVOIDYOU, WP:CIV). Thanks! Multivariable (talk) 06:21, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Please avoid using excessive emphasis (e.g. capital letters) in the title. Also, "T[aiwan] [is a province of] C[hina]" is a declarative statement, which again, without reliable sources, becomes original research. Regardless whether Taiwan is a province of China (since this is irrelevent to the topic), the ISO 3166-2 coding system may not have the authority to justify that Taiwan is a province of China — The International Organization for Standardization is an organization for standards — This further suggests that ISO does not have the right to represent the people of Taiwan (see "Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples" for more information regarding the right of self-determination). Therefore, it would be inappropriate to use ISO 3166-2 as a measure on whether Taiwan should be listed under China in this page. Thanks! 0xbbb6ad (talk) 07:23, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
I'm also removing the discussion below in this section since it has no meta, is subjective, does not deal with facts, and does not stay on topic. Sorry and thanks! 0xbbb6ad (talk) 07:23, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Infobox settlement[edit]

Is "Infobox settlement" really the best choice of infobox here? Power~enwiki (talk) 00:55, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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