Talk:RRR/Archive 1
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Female role
Alia bhatt Psy996 (talk) 06:36, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Its possible to add rakuul preet singh female lead DG127 (talk) 08:19, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2020
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Update the release date to 8 Jan 2021 in Marketing and release tab. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umesh9889 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Not done. Please provide reliable sources that support this change. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:51, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Kannada Addition
When the release of the poster was announced it also had Kannada in its dubbed list. Can we also add Kannada. Source :https://twitter.com/DVVMovies/status/1242437977537531905 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SP013 (talk • contribs) 18:28, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2020
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RRR make title change Ramaraoagni (talk) 15:47, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. If you want to move the article to a new title, see WP:RM. However, that would likely not be appropriate on its own; it would need to be "RRR (film)". –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:21, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Rename the Page
Page name should be RRR (film) For Universal Acceptance for Interest Please move this page to RRR Tarun Joga 28 (talk) 09:22, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
{{subst:RRR(film)|new|reason=for universal acceptance}} Tarun Joga 28 (talk) 09:35, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Well, your page move request is very confusing. No idea what you think {{subst:RRR(film)|new|reason=for universal acceptance}} will do, but it doesn't do anything. No, the page shouldn't be moved, because the target page RRR is a disambiguation page that lists the many things in the world that could be called RRR. There is nothing special about this unreleased film that should take dominance over the other 28 topics. Denied Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:16, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
I support renaming the page as RRR (film) which already redirects to this article. RRR is used more frequently than Roudram Ranam Rudhiram. For example
More over, it would be more convenient for the readers with abbreviated title as it is common across the languages.
Ab207 (talk) 18:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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Poster
@Cyphoidbomb: Sir I think we should restore it back to the older version as this film is a multistarrer and the poster currently only features NTR and not Ram Charan like the older version which featured both leads in the poster. SP013 (talk) 15:14, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- @SP013: I don't have a strong opinion about this, so I don't object to your choice. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:32, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Deletion of promotional content
In this edit I reverted content added here by an anonymous editor. The content dump reeks of promotion, in part because it relies on heavy paraphrasing of the various sources, down to including irrelevant details (who cares how many minutes away the "manduva" house was, or how lavish it was? And thanks for forgetting to explain to English speakers what a manduva house is) and industry slang that would not belong in an encyclopedia. (Roped in, penned, high-octane, etc.) These were not the totality of the issues, but some of them. Since this was a major change that was done in one massive dump, and since nobody is required to comb through massive changes separating chaff from wheat and fixing problems, I reverted the entire thing until those issues are resolved. Working in smaller batches is often smarter. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:39, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Release Date
@Ab207 and Cyphoidbomb: As per the latest poster that was released it was shown as the release date to be 2021 not Janaury 8th 2021 so should we change it or not. [1] SP013 (talk) 19:31, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Bovineboy2008: Also pinging the editor who restored release date.
- It's fairly certain that the film isn't going to be released on the given release date and the makers haven't officially revised the date yet. Instead, they are only displaying the year now --Ab207 (talk) 19:42, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- It would be best to wait until we have confirmation. If we find the poster firm enough evidence that the date has been postponed, then I'm all for it, but we should indicate that in the article. Right now we have a reliable source that has a date and we should indicate a change with a source. BOVINEBOY2008 19:44, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2021
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It is mentioned that it is an 'Upcoming' Telugu language period action drama film..... but the release year has been confirmed by the movie team as they mentioned 'RRR year' in a poster released by the movie team on the occasion of New year 2021.[1] Geetanjali Gogireddy (talk) 14:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
References
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. @Geetanjali Gogireddy. Seagull123 Φ 15:34, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Roar of RRR a making video will be released on July 15th 2021
Waiting for the making video Martin 0133 (talk) 13:39, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
RRR In OTT Platform
When Will It Be Released On The OTT Platform ? Subham7063.wiki (talk) 14:31, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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Requested move 18 May 2020
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The result of the move request was: Moved. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:09, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Roudram Ranam Rudhiram → RRR (film) – Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is just a Telugu Language abbreviation to Main Film Title RRR (film), it is releasing in other 4 Languages in different abbreviations 160.238.72.49 (talk) 13:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)—Relisted. – Ammarpad (talk) 16:21, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Oppose As you can see in the discussion above RRR leads to a disambiguation link RRR and hence it should not be moved and also this movie is a Telugu Film so the original title should be the title of the page.SP013 (talk) 22:41, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support S. S. Rajamouli confirmed the title of the movie being RRR in an interview on April 20, 2020. He chose this title as it is universal and this title is already registered with the CBFC. He explains that #RRR was a working title and everyone got used to it so he kept it and each language has its own variation of the title. SP013 (talk) 18:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose because I don't understand the explanation given. "Roudram Ranam Rudhiram" is not an abbreviation, RRR is the abbreviation, and I don't know what "Main Film Title RRR (film)" means. Further, we typically don't care about dubbed releases or whatever their titles eventually become. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: There are two compelling reasons why RRR (film) to be the article title1. RRR qualifies as as WP:COMMONNAME, nearly all the sources quoted in the article refer to the film as RRR, It is the most commonly used and most recognizable name of the film.2. RRR is also the offical title of the original language of the film, announced by makers themselves here.Reasons why Roudram Ranam Rudhiram should not be the article title1. Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is neither common name nor official name, It is not recognizable as per WP:RECOGNIZABILITY, as users are less likely to recognize what it actually is. It is also not natural for readers to look/search for the film as per WP:NATURALNESS, for example, google search of Roudram Ranam Rudhiram generates a mere 63,200 hits compared to rrr movie which generates a gargantuan 2,79,00,000 hits.2. Page move from RRR (film) to Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is an undiscussed and controversial move made unilaterally without seeking consensus.-Ab207 (talk) 15:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support moving this page to RRR (film). All the sources and references refer to the film as RRR, even the official website, verified social media accounts in twitter and facebook are titled RRR Movie. We cannot jump into conclusions that film's title is Roudram Ranam Rudhiram before the film is registered with CBFC. It might well be that the words Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is mere caption like Kolar Gold Fields (for the film KGF) without actually appearing in the title. More over RRR (film) redirects to this very page, so question of disambiguation shall not arise. - Ab207 (talk) 14:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Ab207: Actually this movie's title is registered with the Telugu Film Chamber of Commerce and the CBFC and according to their rules the movie's title can not be used or promoted without being approved at the council. Also the title Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is present in all of the Telugu posters released after the title announcement. So hence, the movie's title should not be changed and going off of KGF, other than the Hindi title, the other titles do not have Kolar Gold Fields and the movie as you know was shot in Kannada and they did not have Kolar Gold Fields in the title. Here is the link to the official titles approved by the TFC and CBFC http://apfilmchamber.com/feb2020.pdf
- @SP013:1. CBFC is a statutory body established by an act of Indian Parliament whereas TFCC is mere private entity, they do not share any sort of relation whatsoever and one cannot casually club them together.2. Presence in poster does not mean that its the title of the film. Its not uncommon for Telugu films to have catchy lines beneath the title. For example, all the posters of 2016 film, Janatha Garage have the phrase Ichata anni repairlu cheyabadunu and posters of 2017 film Fidaa have the phrase love-hate-love story but these are not part of their titles. Raudram Ranam Rudhiram is also the same, the film's official title is RRR and RRR alone.3. No where in the source you gave has any mention of RRR. As far I can see, this is only a list of registered titles and production company is under no obligation to actually use that title. Therefore, only the film's official website/page and CBFC registration certificate can be considered reliable.- Ab207 (talk) 04:28, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support: Roudram Ranam Rudhiram → RRR (film) – Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is not the main title
- RRR is the main title of the film ,check it's official blue tick page here's address link Take a look at RRR Movie (@RRRMovie): https://twitter.com/RRRMovie?s=09
- Requesting you move the page to RRR (film) or
- Second Opinion RRR (2021 film)
- RRR telugu is Roudram Ranam Rudhiram
- RRR hindi is Rise Roar Revolt
- RRR tamil, Kannada, malayalam are different
- So, RRR is main title change it right now please 157.47.122.31 (talk) 15:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- The bulk of this argument is total rubbish, as Hindi and Kannada dub titles have zero impact on our consideration of how a Telugu film article should be titled. Also, your suggestion that the article should be "RRR (2021 film)" suggests you don't know much about our article naming procedures, since we typically go with the least amount of disambiguation. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:42, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment supporting the move from Roudram Ranam Rudhiram to RRR (film). There is already a move discussion in progress and I'm not sure whether making second request for the same move is appropriate. In any case, I'll present the same arguments here as well.
There are two compelling reasons why RRR (film) to be the article title1. RRR qualifies as as WP:COMMONNAME, nearly all the sources quoted in the article refer to the film as RRR, It is the most commonly used and most recognizable name of the film.2. RRR is also the offical title of the original language of the film, announced by makers themselves here.Reasons why Roudram Ranam Rudhiram should not be the article title1. Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is neither common name nor official name, It is not recognizable as per WP:RECOGNIZABILITY, as users are less likely to recognize what it actually is. It is also not natural for readers to look/search for the film as per WP:NATURALNESS, for example, google search of Roudram Ranam Rudhiram generates a mere 63,200 hits compared to rrr movie which generates a gargantuan 2,79,00,000 hits.2. Page move from RRR (film) to Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is an undiscussed and controversial move made unilaterally without seeking consensus.-Ab207 (talk) 15:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Ab207:
There is already a move discussion in progress and I'm not sure whether making second request for the same move is appropriate.
No, it is not appropriate. You should close this. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)- @Cyphoidbomb: I don't think I'm authorized to close the move request, Sir. I have not made the request myself and I'm already involved with move discussion. I would like to bring to your attention that the IP has made his second move request (third move request as a whole on the talk page). I request you to take appropriate measure to limit the move discussion to a single move request. -Ab207 (talk) 17:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Ab207: Sorry, I mistakenly thought you opened this. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Ab207: I am sorry but I agree with your statements now because RRR is actually the title of the film after listening to Rajamoui's interview on April 20, 2020. In the interview, he said he wanted a universal title so he made the working title #RRR the official title of the film with different variations of the title in each language. I propose that we change the page's title to RRR (film) now. SP013 (talk) 18:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @SP013: There is no need for a sorry! I am glad you have understood the point I was trying to make. I would request you to withdraw your opposition and support in favour, so that the move request may be carried out. - Ab207 (talk) 18:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Ab207: I am sorry but I agree with your statements now because RRR is actually the title of the film after listening to Rajamoui's interview on April 20, 2020. In the interview, he said he wanted a universal title so he made the working title #RRR the official title of the film with different variations of the title in each language. I propose that we change the page's title to RRR (film) now. SP013 (talk) 18:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Ab207: Sorry, I mistakenly thought you opened this. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: I don't think I'm authorized to close the move request, Sir. I have not made the request myself and I'm already involved with move discussion. I would like to bring to your attention that the IP has made his second move request (third move request as a whole on the talk page). I request you to take appropriate measure to limit the move discussion to a single move request. -Ab207 (talk) 17:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Query: How come nobody has proposed the title RRR: Roudram Ranam Rudhiram in the vein of XXX: Return of Xander Cage. That would seem to solve most of the concerns. A redirect to that article could be created at RRR (film). Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:19, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: Nobody has proposed the title as RRR: Roudram Ranam Rudhriam due to the film not being a series like the XXX movies were and also that RRR is the official title of the film not Roudram Ranam Rudhiram after S. S. Rajamouli confirmed it in an interview that they made the working title #RRR the official title while having different variations of it in all the languages. SP013 (talk) 18:36, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- The suggestion has nothing to do with it being a franchise. It's about the structure "NAME: SUBTITLE", which is found across the world including in articles like Manikarnika: The Queen of Jhansi, Nature Cat: The Movie, Phineas and Ferb the Movie: Across the 2nd Dimension. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- If you don't know some of these movies such as Manikarnika where the protagonist is in multiple movies as a different person and not a lot of people know that name. Going off of Phineas and Ferb there are actually 2 movies and one of them is set to premiere on Disney+. SP013 (talk) 18:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Again, you are failing to grasp the point, that there are instances where you would use a film or TV title and include its subtitle. By the way, if you change your !vote, don't overwrite your vote with a new post. Leave the first !vote, strike it through like
Opposeand then add your new position underneath. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Again, you are failing to grasp the point, that there are instances where you would use a film or TV title and include its subtitle. By the way, if you change your !vote, don't overwrite your vote with a new post. Leave the first !vote, strike it through like
- If you don't know some of these movies such as Manikarnika where the protagonist is in multiple movies as a different person and not a lot of people know that name. Going off of Phineas and Ferb there are actually 2 movies and one of them is set to premiere on Disney+. SP013 (talk) 18:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: We do not have any concrete evidence whether the expansion Roudram Ranam Rudhiram will make it into the title/subtitle of the film. In an interview to a Telugu news channel, the film's director SS Rajamouli confirms that the film's title is registered as RRR alone, and the expansion is nominal only. It is analogous to TMNT, The BFG or WALL-E in this regard.-Ab207 (talk) 18:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Adding link to the aforementioned interview here where the director Rajamouli says "We have registered (the film) as RRR and that will be the title."--Ab207 (talk) 17:28, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- The suggestion has nothing to do with it being a franchise. It's about the structure "NAME: SUBTITLE", which is found across the world including in articles like Manikarnika: The Queen of Jhansi, Nature Cat: The Movie, Phineas and Ferb the Movie: Across the 2nd Dimension. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: Nobody has proposed the title as RRR: Roudram Ranam Rudhriam due to the film not being a series like the XXX movies were and also that RRR is the official title of the film not Roudram Ranam Rudhiram after S. S. Rajamouli confirmed it in an interview that they made the working title #RRR the official title while having different variations of it in all the languages. SP013 (talk) 18:36, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support Ab207 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.47.122.31 (talk) 06:34, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Duplicate !vote from 157.47.122.31 - User seems to think that the more times they express their opinion, the stronger their !vote is. Please disregard. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:43, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support how about RRR: Roudram Ranam Rudhiram like F2: Fun and Frustration that can be solve the problem
F2 means Fun and Frustration, just like RRR means Roudram Ranam Rudhiram — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.196.169.65 (talk) 12:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- I have reasons to both support and oppose this recommendation. My concern is that we don't have any evidence if the expansion will make it to the title (Like how F2 was registered as F2: Fun and Frustration). However, I weakly support this move because1. Roudram Ranam Rudhiram appears in the poster as subtitle to (main) title RRR.2. This is way more sensible than naming the article after the subtitle which may not actually make it to the registered title.--Ab207 (talk) 17:24, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
RRR Movie Title
The film's official title is RRR, which was revealed way back on 14 Mar 2019, Here is the verified twitter account of the movie confirming the same. On 25 March 2020, The makers have released Title Logo and Motion Poster here where the description calls the film as RRR Movie. This is not a "Title reveal" or "Title announcement" as claimed by fellow editors. There is no indication from the film's makers that the title is renamed as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram, which only appears at the bottom of the logo with RRR written in big bold letters. In fact, the film's official website, verified social media accounts in twitter and facebook are titled RRR Movie.
Therefore in this edit, I have changed the introduction from Roudram Ranam Rudhiram to RRR (Roudram Ranam Rudhiram), commonly referred to as RRR. I have retained Roudram Ranam Rudhiram in parenthesis, not because it is the title, but it appears at the bottom as a caption/tagline as present in this version before page was moved. I am of the opinion that parenthesis is of no help and there should be a better wording indicating what Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is. I welcome suggestions by fellow wikipedians in this regard. -Ab207 (talk) 15:51, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- I can't understand how the repetitious "RRR (Roudram Ranam Rudhiram), commonly referred to as RRR" is a logical way to present this content. It would be like saying "SW:TPM (Star Wars the Phantom Menace), commonly referred to as SW:TPM". We can infer that the film is commonly referred to as SW:TPM because that was implied at the beginning of the sentence when we defined what SW:TPM meant. Otherwise, we would have just called the film Star Wars: The Phantom Menance. It would be like saying Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (SW:TPM) commonly referred to as Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. I deliberately repeated this argument to point out how irritating repetition is. TL;DR: "RRR: Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is an upcoming 2021...etc." Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- RRR: Roudram Ranam Rudhiram seems very logical. I shall update the same accordingly. Thank you for the suggestion! -Ab207 (talk) 17:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Ab207: I have multiple sources that use the name Roudram Ranam Rudhiram as the main title. As I have stated above RRR is just an abbreviation of the title not the actual title. Here is the list of a few sources The Hindu Times of IndiaNew Indian Express Hindustan Times Indian Express — Preceding unsigned comment added by SP013 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- This is rather unprofessional on part of the fellow editor to ignore the discussion on the talk page and reverting the edits at his/her own will. As the reply is not signed, I'm guessing its @SP013: based on the lastest edit. Please explain how do newspaper articles qualify as WP:RELIABLE SOURCE for the film title? How do they trump the film maker's own announcement about the title? I clearly gave the links to official website, verified twitter account and facebook page and youtube channel, all of which refer to the film as RRR. Also I do not understand this RRR is just an abbreviation business. Abbreviation can also be the film's official title. Take the case of 2007 film TMNT, it is an abbreviation of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles but its also the official title. Or the 2019 Telugu film F2, which is the official title despite being an abbreviation of Fun and Frustration. Just because the film's official title is an abbreviated form, does not make it less official or incorrect all together.MOS:FILM suggests to resolve the dispute on film's title through Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules and BBFC. Therefore, I believe in Indian case, Central Board of Film Certification is the only other reliable source. As the film is yet to be certified by CBFC, It is prudent to stick to official title instead of relying on fancy interpretations by newspaper journalists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ab207 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, we rely on reliable secondary sources for most content. See WP:RS. That would mean in most cases, we'd go by what newspapers/magazines, etc. say. That isn't to say that in areas of confusion we couldn't consider primary sources, but it is a bit of a stretch to disregard the "fancy interpretations" secondary sources are reporting. If a film title comprises three letters, and the media is publishing some explanation as to what those letters mean, there's a reason for that. "RRR" on its own doesn't mean anything. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:36, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- I agree with your point. My only contention was against relying on newspaper articles even when they are in conflict with primary source. I did not dispute the fact that RRR means those three words, but a few newspapers have misreported that as title reveal. The editor claimed that he/she has sources which use Roudram Ranam Rudhiram as the main title which amounts to nothing but WP:CHERRYPICKING. Nearly all sources refer to the film as RRR including the makers themselves. Ignoring that altogether and renaming the film on makers' behalf is what I contest.-Ab207 (talk) 22:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, we rely on reliable secondary sources for most content. See WP:RS. That would mean in most cases, we'd go by what newspapers/magazines, etc. say. That isn't to say that in areas of confusion we couldn't consider primary sources, but it is a bit of a stretch to disregard the "fancy interpretations" secondary sources are reporting. If a film title comprises three letters, and the media is publishing some explanation as to what those letters mean, there's a reason for that. "RRR" on its own doesn't mean anything. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:36, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- This is rather unprofessional on part of the fellow editor to ignore the discussion on the talk page and reverting the edits at his/her own will. As the reply is not signed, I'm guessing its @SP013: based on the lastest edit. Please explain how do newspaper articles qualify as WP:RELIABLE SOURCE for the film title? How do they trump the film maker's own announcement about the title? I clearly gave the links to official website, verified twitter account and facebook page and youtube channel, all of which refer to the film as RRR. Also I do not understand this RRR is just an abbreviation business. Abbreviation can also be the film's official title. Take the case of 2007 film TMNT, it is an abbreviation of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles but its also the official title. Or the 2019 Telugu film F2, which is the official title despite being an abbreviation of Fun and Frustration. Just because the film's official title is an abbreviated form, does not make it less official or incorrect all together.MOS:FILM suggests to resolve the dispute on film's title through Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules and BBFC. Therefore, I believe in Indian case, Central Board of Film Certification is the only other reliable source. As the film is yet to be certified by CBFC, It is prudent to stick to official title instead of relying on fancy interpretations by newspaper journalists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ab207 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Ab207: I have multiple sources that use the name Roudram Ranam Rudhiram as the main title. As I have stated above RRR is just an abbreviation of the title not the actual title. Here is the list of a few sources The Hindu Times of IndiaNew Indian Express Hindustan Times Indian Express — Preceding unsigned comment added by SP013 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- RRR: Roudram Ranam Rudhiram seems very logical. I shall update the same accordingly. Thank you for the suggestion! -Ab207 (talk) 17:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Requested move 31 May 2020
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The result of the move request was: Speedy Close (duplicate). Please use the above Move Request for further discussion.(non-admin closure) ƬheStrikeΣagle 06:06, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Roudram Ranam Rudhiram → RRR: Roudram Ranam Rudhiram – Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is meaning of RRR Expansion just like F2: Fun and Frustration
F2 means Fun and Frustration please move the page to RRR: Roudram Ranam Rudhiram 157.47.125.125 (talk) 05:29, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Weak Support: I have reasons to both support and oppose this move. My concern is that we don't have any evidence if the expansion will make it to the title (Like how F2 was registered as F2: Fun and Frustration). However, I weakly support this move because1. Roudram Ranam Rudhiram appears in the poster as subtitle to (main) title RRR.2. This is way more sensible than naming the article after the subtitle which may not actually make it to the registered title.
Ab207 (talk) 11:28, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
CLOSE THISSPEEDY PROCEDURAL CLOSE, DUPLICATE MOVE DISCUSSION - How many open move discussions do we have to have on one page? Close this ridiculous request and let the other one play out. The anonymous editor has twice opened pointless move discussions while one was already open. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Clarified !vote. A different move request already exists on this page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:01, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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RRR expansion
@Nenevaro neekenduku: Please go through this interview, the director says that expansion is not part of the title, and the title is registered as RRR only. -- Ab207 (talk) 13:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Ab207: That proves it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Zee Studios Buying the rights of the film
@Ab207: Recently there were news reports that Zee Studios bought the rights of the film for 325 cr. Should this be included in the page? [2] [3] [4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by SP013 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Regarding RRR Title expansion and the controversy surrounding it
Discussion
Agree or Disagree, RRR is and happens to be a TELUGU film, not as ALL THE OTHER Languages film as claimed by many. A film's language is decided by the language it was majorly made in and not by the languages it is being released in. This must be known. This cannot be denied.
1. I have gone through the entire discussion happened on this and saw some people saying RRR looked better than Roudram Ranam Rudhiram which is very silly as the shortcut form of every Large title film looks better than it's large title which cannot be treated as a parameter.
2. Coming to another point, I even saw some people saying even THE FILM's SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS had only this RRR title and they even used the links of Twitter, facebook etc.,. Let me tell u something, the name of Baahubali's social media platforms was only Baahubali not BAAHUBALI THE BEGINNING and BAAHUBALI THE CONCLUSION which has nothing to do with film's poster or names used in wikipedia. The same is with K.G.F. Chapter 1 which had all of it's social media accounts name as K.G.F not K.G.F. Chapter 1. And the very wikipedia page of K.G.F is K.G.F Chapter 1 not KGF. The same applies even here. You just cant decide the title by their social media accounts which are maintained by the digital team for the wider reach of audiences so that audience could type the short cut name for the film updates which is not too a parameter. If social media accounts are a parameter then please also change the title of K.G.F Chapter 1 as K.G.F. in Wikipedia.
3. RRR is not a person's name or a place's name to write with initials letters. It is about 3 words or rather 3 feelings. You just can't write 3 meaningful words as initials as "inititals are written only for a place or a person." So it's expansion must be written definitely to make it understandable. This is a must. By the way I saw some people giving example of KGF. KGF title was K.G.F Chapter 1 not mere KGF without full stops. The same mistake is being done here. RRR has no full stops even which is grammatically wrong. So, the expansion must be written.
4. Some even put the google search results as a parameter by saying RRR title has more google search results than Roudram Ranam Rudhiram's results. If that is the case, then even KGF gets so much results than it's wikipedia page title "K.G.F. Chapter 1" which is also not a parameter. If any of you still feel this as a parameter, then please change the title of K.G.F Chapter 1 as K.G.F. immediately. Google search results happen by the audiences who don't search the full name of any film, they just type the 3 or 4 letters and when the film pops up, they click it. This is not a parameter or if you still feel it as a parameter please change the title of K.G.F Chapter 1 as KGF.
5. Some even said the film is represented as differently in other languages. A Dubbing film's title is not treated as an official title as the official title happens to be Telugu title. And even all languages had the same title expansion in Sanskrit which must be also noted. So the question doesn't even arise with the expansion.
6. The title is also mostly decided by the way it is shown in the poster where it is being made in. If you believe RRR was okay then the makers too would have gone with the lone RRR but they are clearly showcasing the expansion name which must also be noted. If they really wanted only RRR as the title then there was even no need of expansions in the posters. And one more thing, the title will be displayed as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram with the expansion and not with mere RRR in the theatres even which must also be considered.
7. Talking about the title's registration, a film's registration title has nothing to do with the posters. A film registration is done to have a universal approach while receiving any awards by the governments. That was a call by the makers. A film's official registration can be done with one name and some other names can also be shown on the posters. But people recognize and talk about only what was shown on the screen or posters which is a serious consideration. In that way Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is shown in the film's motion poster, making video, an official song and will also be shown in the upcoming teaser.
And finally I appeal you all not to make this a controversy, this film is a Telugu Language film and if you are a non-Telugu language guy, then please understand and respect this fact but don't bring out some other issues. Baahubali was also released in China, what if a Chinese guy asks to change the title or title he is comfortable at. If you think Roudram Ranam Rudhiram doesn't look good to you, you could just simply move away but please do not make this a controversy and I appeal other Telugu language users to understand this and all the other factors I have explained. If you see some other non Telugu Language users saying they don't understand this, tell them that is a Telugu language film. They would then google the meaning. You must also consider what so wrong in the expansion. That expansion is not a sin or a misrepresented one. And RRR will also be provided in the page as a stylized title. Anyone who searches with the name RRR would be re-directed anyway. So there is nothing wrong about this.Chinnusaikrish (talk) 23:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- Chinnusaikrish, let's put the title aside for a moment. The series of edits you've made has several other issues, including but not limited to:
- Vijayendra Prasad has the story credit while Rajamouli has the screenplay credit. Please check the description of the making video, which clearly says
Screenplay & Direction: S.S. Rajamouli
andStory: V. Vijayendra Prasad
. You might say that the Rajamouli got the idea originally, but that's not the same as writing the story. - You've added Shriya Saran and Samuthirakani in the starring parameter without any evidence. Saran is not even mentioned in their cast list, let alone a starring role.
NTR, Ram Charan, Ajay Devgn, Alia Bhatt, Olivia Morris, Samuthirakani, Alison Doody, Ray Stevenson
- MOS:DUPLINK of Charan and Rama Rao in the lead.
- Now coming to the title, please watch this interview where Rajamouli explicity says the title is RRR only and expansion is not part of the title. -- Ab207 (talk) 04:59, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ab207 Dear brother,
- The basic story of the film was conceived & visualised by
S.S. Rajamouli
. The story was not provided byK.V. Vijayendra Prasad
completely. Even the core plot of uniting the both legends during 1920s was the sole idea of S.S. Rajamouli which was even confirmed by K.V. Vijayendra Prasad, "so that has to be respected." They might not show or give credit as there is a sentiment for S.S. Rajamouli films of giving the story credit to his father, K.V. Vijayendra Prasad. Anyways I am adding the both. - Even the child character artistes playing both legends younger versions were added in the cast list which was also not confirmed or represented by the team. So, that answers this. Shriya Saran and Samuthirakani are playing important roles in the film.
- Now coming to the title, RRR is represented or expanded as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram in the language it is made. Rajamouli says RRR is only the title but shows the expansion in the posters and videos. Why then ? By the way, as I said earlier RRR is not a person's name or a place's name to represent with "initial letters". It has to be expanded as there are "three feelings/emotions" in it. You just can't write the feelings/emotions with initial letters. Let them register the title with whatever name they want but RRR couldn't be the rightful title here. And most importantly representing the title without "full stops" as the page title is also grammatically wrong which should also be noted. To avoid all this going with the expanded title is the most ideal conclusion. And the name RRR still stays in the stylized version form which Chinnusaikrish (talk) 07:50, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- Chinnusaikrish, please refrain from making any further changes to the article; the onus to seek WP:Consensus is on you. Looks like you have breached the WP:3RR already.
- If RRR is the title according the director, that's it. We are not interested in whys and hows of it.
- Secondly, whatever you are telling regards to the story credit is WP:OR, please bring sources or else stop pushing that point. Only credited people are listed in the infobox, not according to any sentiments or respect.
- Thirdly, starring roles will be as per billing block according to Template:Infobox film, not any editor's personal preference. Because that's not available we are listing according to their cast list, in which Saran is not added for reasons unknown. -- Ab207 (talk) 09:02, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Ab207 @Chinnusaikrish @Jayanthkumar123 Since it has now blown into an edit war, let's just not edit or revert it anymore, post the latest version as of this writing Special:Diff/1036715596 per WP:STATUSQUO, until the dispute is resolved. Even if anyone of us changed/reverted, let's just leave it like that. -- DaxServer (talk) 09:13, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ab207 I see you are very stubborn and a little frustrated to "understanding the things". Let me put them to u again.
- If RRR is the title according to the director that doesn't mean he told you that he doesn't want Roudram Ranam Rudhiram as the title. Did he tell you that ? I request you to please submit the proof for this. You haven't followed any of the examples I have given which is very sad. YOU HAVE TO BE ATTENTIVE to the whys and hows of it. Don't just say you are not interested. If you really are not interested, please move away. Don't waste our time here. RRR is not a title which is grammatically correct my dear. And to tell you again, a name or a place can only have initial letters but not feelings/emotions. The title used at present doesn't even has "full stops" my dear which is also grammatically wrong. KGF title is K.G.F. Chapter 1 my dear but not mere KGF without full stops. To avoid these, full title must be written to describe the meaning of the title. Even if the director says that RRR remains to be the title. In the same way, Roudram Ranam Rudhiram also remains to be the title. And what's bothering you even if RRR stays in the stylized version which is how it is being represented in language it is being made in. This is a Telugu film and the expansion of it is Roudram Ranam Rudhiram collectively shown to avoid errors. If you are not interested as you said, then you can simply walk away. Don't waste our time here. Don't just make this a title without meaning because IT HAS THREE FEELINGS/EMOTIONS. And the director wouldn't bother about this as the title is almost the same in all languages.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0HD08oWLUs from 31:15 - 32 :37 you could watch him saying whose story it was. So that shouldn't be neglected my dear. Rajamouli deserves credit in this aspect my dear. And that is why I added the both and both deserve the credit. It was not a complete work of K.V. Vijayendra Prasad my dear. But we know whatever we are watching is continuation of Rajamouli's story.
- DaxServer I request you to please have a chat with @Ab207 regarding this issue as I am not in any editing war. My intention is to bring a meaningful title against a mere grammatical error title And I even urge you to please follow my explanations above. And please tell @Ab207 to walk away or not get involved if he feels he is not interested in these issues. He is taking it too personal and I don't think he could reach a consensus in this issue with me. I request you to go through my theories And please allow me to change the title. If you have any doubts with my explanations you could talk to me Chinnusaikrish (talk) 11:37, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Chinnusaikrish This would be taken as a personal insult. I'd suggest you to cool off. And let us all address your concerns. But before that, can you read the sections above titled "Requested move 18 May 2020" and "RRR Movie Title"? This has been discussed last year. -- DaxServer (talk) 13:23, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- @DaxServer, I have gone through all bro and I request you to go through My discussions which you are not doing. Please go through them.Chinnusaikrish (talk) 17:14, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Chinnusaikrish This would be taken as a personal insult. I'd suggest you to cool off. And let us all address your concerns. But before that, can you read the sections above titled "Requested move 18 May 2020" and "RRR Movie Title"? This has been discussed last year. -- DaxServer (talk) 13:23, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Ab207 @Chinnusaikrish @Jayanthkumar123 Since it has now blown into an edit war, let's just not edit or revert it anymore, post the latest version as of this writing Special:Diff/1036715596 per WP:STATUSQUO, until the dispute is resolved. Even if anyone of us changed/reverted, let's just leave it like that. -- DaxServer (talk) 09:13, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- Chinnusaikrish, Sorry for the late reply but on this topic I agree with editor Ab207 purely because we have had the conversation once in the past regarding the title. The issue was in the same way about the title conflict between Ab207, Cyphoidbomb, and I but with the proper sources and the consensus the title was agreed upon to be RRR. Now Chinnusaikrish I get that you have strong feelings about the title itself however the film as said by Rajamouli in interviews along with Vijayendra Prasad is that the film's name is RRR. Think of Janatha Garage as an example the full title is Janatha Garage: Ichita Ani Repairlu Cheyabadinu but that is not what we refer to the film as right? We referred to it as Janatha Garage. Same goes for RRR. RRR is obviously named Roudram Ranam Rudhiram correct? But we refer to the film as RRR to add on the film from day 1 of shooting has always been known as RRR because prior to March 2020 there was no expansion to the film's title also with the Baahubali and KGF arguments those are 2 part films but RRR is not so I don't understand your argument there. As far as it seems about the "RRR is and happens to be a TELUGU film" well shouldn't the common posters have Roudram Ranam Rudhiram on them then? Why do they have Rise Roar Revolt? We have always referred to the film from the start as RRR even the actors, producers, and directors have before. Sorry but last thing, there was a song released also that was "Roar of RRR" now does it say "Roar of Roudram Ranam Rudhiram" here? No right they refer to the movie as RRR because that is how it has been since late 2018. Adding on it seems that you are trying so hard to promote a single narrative with the film from uploading posters to edit warring in the article there is no use to do this at all as it would also be considered to be WP:OR. To end it off, please try to be civil in this discussion there is no use in you yelling at fellow editors as it can clearly get you banned from here and make sure to also read the rules and guidelines since it seems that you do not know them well. SP013 (talk) 14:41, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- SP013, Sorry for saying this bro, but not only that u are supporting Ab207, but you are also following the same pattern of his theories. Alright, let me explain u again.
- Firstly, you said RRR was fixed way before the actual title announcement but let me tell you bro that the title RRR was originally known as Rajamouli RamaRao RamCharan collectively known as RRR which was a WORKING TITLE. Please kindly understand the difference between a WORKING TITLE and a FIXED TTITLE. So please don't say that RRR was fixed then, they put that as a working title and then they fixed some other meaningful words as the title. So get this point here. Your assuming of RRR was fixed way before was wrong. You could check this anywhere in the timeline of the film's making. They even invited AUDIENCES to name the title with three initials of RRR. So please get this point here.
- Secondly, your example of Janatha Garage is very poor. Janatha Garage is the title and ICHATA ANNI REPAIRLU CHEYABUDUNU is the caption. Please understand this and don't connect it to RRR because RRR is a title and it doesn't have any caption. If at all there is a caption for RRR then that is "India 1920". So please stop this comparison.
- You said I have strong feelings for the title. Yes because RRR without mere full stops is a grammatical error which you and Ab207 are not trying to understand. Now, please don't say that you are not interested in English because this is an English website and RRR is a title related to English grammar. It has to be expanded since it is not a place or a person's name which only can have initial letters which you and Ab207 are not trying to understand. This is about English bro let Rajamouli do anything with his promotions. Let's not say he said something and that's it, we are not interested and all. He didn't even say Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is not a title and shouldn't be used. So why are you so hell bent on this ? The title has to be expanded either as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram or Rise Roar Revolt. I am supporting the both. But there is a specific title chosen for Telugu which the film is being made in. If the same Rise Roar Revolt was chosen even in Telugu. That has to be the title not RRR here. I am not translating the title bro. It's the title CHOSEN in Telugu. You got my point bro ? You too understand this Ab207.
- Thirdly, The title displayed in TELUGU WIKIPEDIA page of RRR is "రౌద్రం రణం రుధిరం" not "ఆర్ ఆర్ ఆర్" which you and Ab207 should now understand. That is what I am even appealing the same here . RRR has to be expanded either as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram or Rise Roar Revolt. But Rise Roar Revolt is used as a promotion title nationwide. If you seriously say RRR has to be the title then why are they putting Rise Roar Revolt posters. Tell me bros ? They should plainly promote the film as RRR even in the posters. And the same Rise Roar Revolt poster is used even in the film's wikipedia page. So as you said Rajamouli said RRR was only the title then why using Rise Roar Revolt posters in promtions or even in the film's wikipedia page. Why are supporting Rise Roar Revolt then as RRR is only the title as said by Rajamouli then ? This is a question that you and Ab207 should ask yourselves. So try to get this. And to answer your another question. Roudram Ranam Rudhiram title was used in the film's motion poster, a song and will be even used in the upcoming teaser and the film in the theatres. So try to understand this.
- Fourthly, Yes again I am saying this, RRR is and happens to be a TELUGU LANGUAGE film. Just by promoting the film in the other languages throughout the nation wouldn't make it All language film. If then remove the RRR info on the page as Telugu-language film and write it as Indian language film ? Can you do that ? No, so don't try to feel that it is an all Language film. It might become all language film with dubbed versions. Even Baahubali was dubbed in China. So is it a Chinese film ??? Try to understand this SP013 Ab207.
- Fifth, RRR is a Telugu language film and it's expansion remains Roudram Ranam Rudhiram which is expressed and please don't bulldoze a grammatical error title. If you really don't like that title or not interested in these, please move away but don't please bulldoze as I have all the answers and explanations which are not considered by you out-rightly which pains me. If I answer to your concerns and that's bothering you then please leave but don't bring out some other issues like banning and all. Concentrate on answering my questions point to point. And RRR remains anyway as the stylized version or ALSO KNOWN AS TITLE so no issue in that anyway.
- I request you to please go through my explanations and allow me to change the title. And I request you Ab207 to please not involve with me in this issue as there are many others like SP013 who could discuss and could come to a consensus. I request you Ab207 to please leave this here as I have no hopes on you accepting this as you are out-rightly rejecting my opinions which is paining me. His out-right rejections are influencing even others in going in his way just like how SP013 brought out some of his versions and not even accepting even one point of my versions which is very very sad and not good. We are here doing some thing with lot of time. These out-right rejections are paining us. So please let others decide about this. I also request you Ab207 to please stop reverting my edits as they could also be done by some others. I again request you DaxServer to see that doesn't involve with me in this discussion anymore. There are many others who could do this. This is not that something only he should definitely. So Please request him or see to that he doesn't involve with me. This is my sincere request bro DaxServerChinnusaikrish (talk) 17:10, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- Chinnusaikrish, I understand your points of concern about the title but being very uncivil towards editors is not the right way. Saying "don't get involved anymore" "don't revert my edits" is not going to work here and it can cause you to be ultimately blocked in the future since it does seem that you have received a fare bit of warnings related to this film's article. Now I say do not edit the page both you and Ab207 till we can effectively resolve this. You do have good points but there is no evidence from your viewpoint. The sources that we have relied on are in the previous conversations so for our points at least we can back them up with that evidence. However without the proper evidence from your side we can not change it first off and putting out all of these facts without out evidence makes it seem like it is WP:OR. Now they have given good inputs from their side and from my experience Ab207 is a very reputable and respectable editor and very well person to work with. Now I have not worked with DaxServer before but he also seems like a good editor from my point of view. Now I was also stubborn with the title but evidence here is what ultimately determines the article name or whatever gets put into the article. I suggest that we get input from editors Cyphoidbomb, Bovineboy2008, and Ravensfire to ultimately decide upon on what is the fate of the article. Other than that I am still keen on keeping the title RRR because we had a few civil discussions on this and we have determined it upon those conversations. SP013 (talk) 19:46, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- SP013, Thanking you for going through my concerns and believing in them. You said that I didn't provide evidence. I am doing it now.
- Here is the evidence of my first theory : https://english.tupaki.com/movienews/article/We-Will-Leave-RRR-Title-To-People-Said-Rajamouli/83740 where he categorically invited people for individual name. This is even before the title announcement. https://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/telugu/2020/mar/26/rajamoulis-next-titled-roudram-ranam-rudhiram-2121569.html You can go through this source too. So your theory of fixing RRR way before is not correct. That was just a working title. I even cleared the air of your example Janatha Garage and it's caption ICHATA ANNI REPAIRLY CHEYABUDUNU.
- And you didn't get my point of RRR and it's expansion. RRR is related to English language because it has some initial letters. RRR is not a Telugu language related word bro. Initial letters are used for only names of person, places and organisations in English. It has three meaningful words. It has to expanded either as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram or Rise Roar Revolt. But it can't be Rise Roar Revolt in all languages as there are different titles for Tamil, Kannada and Malayalam languages[1][2][3] Rise Roar Revolt was only used in Hindi.[4] If Only RRR is used as the title then why Using Roudram Ranam Rudhiram or Rise Roar Revolt in posters, motion poster and a song. You have to understand this. So they are promoting the expansion by not sticking with only RRR. Otherwise they would have only used RRR in every language without any expansions. This is where @Ab207 is going wrong and not understanding the actual point. It is not plainly RRR as he says. RRR is expanded as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram in Telugu which is the language it is being made in.[5] Rest of all the titles are just promotional titles in other languages. Just because it is releasing in some other languages wouldn't make it an ALL LANGUAGE film. I am saying this again. It is a Telugu Film and remains a Telugu Film. Don't link Wikipedia title policy here as that has no connection with FILMY POLICY OF TITLES which you people should understand. RRR has to be expanded to avoid the grammatical errors as that is related to English grammar. That is why it has to be expanded as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram and RRR can be written in the stylized version or ALSO KNOWN AS section which has no issues as that still stays.
- And the other main evidence is our very own Telugu Wikipedia page which shows RRR title as రౌద్రం రణం రుధిరం not ఆర్ ఆర్ ఆర్ which you should understand.[6] If RRR is the title even in telugu they should have written it as ఆర్ ఆర్ ఆర్ not రౌద్రం రణం రుధిరం which you, @Ab207 and @Jayanthkumar123 should understand. In the same way RRR title is Roudram Ranam Rudhiram not only RRR. As Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is a named title not translated title from English.
- Chinnusaikrish, I understand your points of concern about the title but being very uncivil towards editors is not the right way. Saying "don't get involved anymore" "don't revert my edits" is not going to work here and it can cause you to be ultimately blocked in the future since it does seem that you have received a fare bit of warnings related to this film's article. Now I say do not edit the page both you and Ab207 till we can effectively resolve this. You do have good points but there is no evidence from your viewpoint. The sources that we have relied on are in the previous conversations so for our points at least we can back them up with that evidence. However without the proper evidence from your side we can not change it first off and putting out all of these facts without out evidence makes it seem like it is WP:OR. Now they have given good inputs from their side and from my experience Ab207 is a very reputable and respectable editor and very well person to work with. Now I have not worked with DaxServer before but he also seems like a good editor from my point of view. Now I was also stubborn with the title but evidence here is what ultimately determines the article name or whatever gets put into the article. I suggest that we get input from editors Cyphoidbomb, Bovineboy2008, and Ravensfire to ultimately decide upon on what is the fate of the article. Other than that I am still keen on keeping the title RRR because we had a few civil discussions on this and we have determined it upon those conversations. SP013 (talk) 19:46, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ RRR Motion Poster - Tamil | NTR | Ram Charan | Ajay Devgn | Alia Bhatt | Olivia Morris | Rajamouli, retrieved 2021-08-04
- ^ RRR Motion Poster - Kannada | NTR, Ram Charan, Ajay Devgn, Alia Bhatt, Olivia Morris | SS Rajamouli, retrieved 2021-08-04
- ^ RRR Motion Poster - Malayalam | NTR, Ram Charan, Ajay Devgn, Alia Bhatt, Olivia Morris| SS Rajamouli, retrieved 2021-08-04
- ^ RRR Motion Poster - NTR, Ram Charan, Ajay Devgn, Alia Bhatt, Olivia Morris | SS Rajamouli, retrieved 2021-08-04
- ^ "Rajamouli's next titled Roudram Ranam Rudhiram". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2021-08-04.
- ^ "రౌద్రం రణం రుధిరం", వికీపీడియా (in Telugu), 2021-07-31, retrieved 2021-08-04
- Chinnusaikrish (talk) 10:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Chinnusaikrish, Thank you for providing the evidence that was needed however you need to choose reliable sources. Basically, Wikipedia runs on reliable sources however out of the two sources provided Tupaki is not considered by Wikipedia to be a reliable source. Now coming to the Telugu vs English Wikipedia, English Wikipedia mostly relies on WP:COMMONNAME and the common name for the film in English is RRR. Still standing by it I think RRR (film) is the correct title for the page as also suggest by fellow editor Ravensfire. Lets wait for Bovineboy's response and then we can come to a consensus since it is essentially 3 people vs 2 currently. SP013 (talk) 14:54, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- You could check out these new links.[1][2] Now coming to Telugu vs English Wikipedia, you didn't understand my point. RRR is also the common title in Telugu. Then Telugu words of RRR: ఆర్ ఆర్ ఆర్ should be the title not రౌద్రం రణం రుధిరం. Telugu Wikipedia too relies on WP:COMMONNAME. Rule is rule for all pages and versions in Wikipedia. You didn't understand this point. Now, let me ask you a straight question. If somebody comes and asks you what do you mean by RRR. What would be your answer ? Will you say RRR means RRR or will you say something like Roudram Ranam Rudhiram or Rise Roar Revolt atleast. Understand this concept bro. Yes RRR is also a title but it is just a mere shortcut form which has three meaningful words which shouldn't be neglected. Why don't you just understand.
- Chinnusaikrish, Thank you for providing the evidence that was needed however you need to choose reliable sources. Basically, Wikipedia runs on reliable sources however out of the two sources provided Tupaki is not considered by Wikipedia to be a reliable source. Now coming to the Telugu vs English Wikipedia, English Wikipedia mostly relies on WP:COMMONNAME and the common name for the film in English is RRR. Still standing by it I think RRR (film) is the correct title for the page as also suggest by fellow editor Ravensfire. Lets wait for Bovineboy's response and then we can come to a consensus since it is essentially 3 people vs 2 currently. SP013 (talk) 14:54, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Chinnusaikrish (talk) 10:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Rajamouli's next titled Roudram Ranam Rudhiram". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2021-08-04.
- ^ "Motion poster of SS Rajamouli's 'Roudram Ranam Rudhiram' released". The Hindu. Special Correspondent. 2020-03-25. ISSN 0971-751X. Retrieved 2021-08-04.
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- After going through the long discussion, I suggest that the article be remained as RRR (film).
- Instead, we can add the native title as "రౌద్రం రణం రుధిరం", in the infobox, as it different from the common title.
- I suggest to add Roudram Ranam Rudhiram, along with RRR. For example, here in the article'of the Malayalam film Marakkar: Lion of the Arabian Sea, Marakkar: Arabikadalinte Simham (Native title in Malayalam) is also written beside the common title. Even, it received a national film award thorugh its common title, not through its native title. But, still its native title is mentioned (in english alphabets). Moreover, the poster used in the infobox is in common title [Marakkar: Lion of the Arabian Sea].
- I suggest another option too. If you go through the article of the Korean film, Parasite, we can see that its native title is clearly mentioned in Korean (in two different scripts). Similarly, many other films of the region, clearly mention the name (title) in their native language and native writing systems (scripts), along with common titles. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 5:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- I see you didn't get the point. Your example of Marakkar:Lion of the Arabian Sea is not sufficient and doesn't stand as a comparison. Markkar: Lion of the Arabian Sea is the "translated title" of it's native language title Marakkar: Arabikadalinte Simham but Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is not a translated title but a NAMED TITLE and also an EXPANDED TITLE. Understand this difference. If Marakkar: Arabikadalinte Simham was titled as MAS just like RRR then we have to discuss the expansion or going with the TRANSLATED TITLE for the page's article but RRR is a short form title not a full form title like Marakkar: Arabikadalinte Simham. So understand this and also you @Ab207.
- And coming to your another point, you brought out the example of Korean film Parasite, let me tell you that NON-ENGLISH language films worldwide go for an English language title just to make that easy for the jury and other International film awards juries to pronounce a much easy ENGLISH NAME rather than Korean, Japanese, Chinese titles. Don't bring international languages theory here. But Parasite is also a translated title or a chosen title. But RRR is not a title like Parasite as RRR is a short cut form of title. What is that title is the question here which you people are not agreeing for the expansion. What if the same Korean guy asks you "what is the meaning of RRR ?" Will you say RRR is just RRR or will you say Roudram Ranam Rudhiram or Rise Roar Revolt. You will definitely say Roudram Ranam Rudhiram or Rise Roar Revolt. But Roudram Ranam Rudhiram was the chosen title first[1] and it was continuously shown as the abbreviation which you and @Ab207 should understand. And by the way I thank you for accepting the expansion even in infobox which @Ab207 was also against too. Chinnusaikrish (talk) 10:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your input, Jayanthkumar123. The only issue I see is that the native title of the film is also RRR and not Roudram Ranam Rudhiram. -- Ab207 (talk) 06:11, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Summary of Ab207's arguments
- RRR is the WP:COMMONNAME of the film with regards to our article titling policy, as demostrated in the May 2020 RM.
- RRR is also the WP:OFFICIALNAME of the film as per the director's April 2020 interview, where he explicitly said the the expansion of not part of the title, and the film is registered as RRR alone.
Additionally, there is nothing incorrect about using abbreviation as the film's title without periods (See JFK (film), UHF (film), XXX (2002 film), TMNT (film), WALL-E, The BFG (2016 film) etc., many of them do have a namesake expansion but they are not part of the title.) -- Ab207 (talk) 05:54, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- I thank you for your inputs too Ab207 but your theories don't stand perfect. Your version of assuming RRR as a native language is a blunder as the native language title is Roudram Ranam Rudhiram not RRR which is an english language short cut form. So, please don't bring forth that theory.
- Your theory of only choosing RRR as the title by the director and not the expansion falls short as the title Roudram Ranam Rudhiram was shown in the film's character's teasers, posters, motion poster, a song and the upcoming teasers too.[2][3][4][5][6] Don't mislead as if the expansion was prohibited by the director and his team.
- The other examples given by you of (See JFK (film), UHF (film), XXX (2002 film), TMNT (film), WALL-E, The BFG (2016 film) are either People's names or a person's name or an Organisation's name which can be written in shortcut forms. But not RRR which is about three meaningful words.
References
- ^ "Rajamouli's next titled Roudram Ranam Rudhiram". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2021-08-04.
- ^ RRR Motion Poster - Telugu | NTR, Ram Charan, Ajay Devgn, Alia Bhatt, Olivia Morris | SS Rajamouli, retrieved 2021-08-04
- ^ Bheem For Ramaraju - Ramaraju Intro - RRR(Telugu) | NTR, Ram Charan, Ajay Devgn | SS Rajamouli, retrieved 2021-08-04
- ^ Ramaraju For Bheem - Bheem Intro - RRR (Telugu) | NTR, Ram Charan, Ajay Devgn, Alia | SS Rajamouli, retrieved 2021-08-04
- ^ "Rajamouli's next titled Roudram Ranam Rudhiram". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2021-08-04.
- ^ Dosti Music Video (Telugu) - RRR - HemaChandra, MM Keeravaani | NTR, Ram Charan | SS Rajamouli, retrieved 2021-08-04
- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chinnusaikrish (talk • contribs) 10:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- There's no denying that RRR has an expansion in Telugu; my contention is that the expansion is only namesake whereas RRR is the actual title (according to the director himself). Also, the abbreviation does not have to be the name of any person or an organisation to be legitimate. It can be made up of anything. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:35, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanking you sincerely for atleast agreeing now that RRR has some expansion. You have to think that it is just not a namesake as it is being promoted time to time. If it is really a namesake then you must question yourself of why there is Roudram Ranam Rudhiram words in the posters. There was no need of those words then. And anything cannot be made as an abbreviation. If they are made as an abbreviation, they have to be expanded immediately to let others understand them. Only abbreviations of places, persons and organisations are not needed as they are known to all time to time. RRR has three meaningful words which are not known to any. They have to be expanded. And the director was not against or prohibited this. Please submit his prohibition words proof. Chinnusaikrish (talk) 17:28, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- All the expansions have already been given at RRR (film)#Marketing. With regards to evidence why the expansion is not part of the title; let me give the transcript of Rajamouli's interview about the title, so that non-Telugu editors can also take a look (tried my best to keep the translation accurate).
-- Ab207 (talk) 18:11, 4 August 2021 (UTC)Reporter: Before talking about Corona, lets come to RRR. Is it triple R or RRR or Roudram Ranam Rudhiram?
Rajamouli: Ah.. Roudram Ranam Rudhiram is the expansion only for the sake of expansion. Whenever we are making pan-Indian films such as this, its very very important to have one title across the whole country..across all the languages. That's why we are calling the title RRR only. You can call it triple R or RRR, whatever you may, but we are not taking its expansion as the film's title. We have also registered the title as RRR, so that will be the title.
— SS Rajamouli Exclusive Interview About RRR And LockDown 7:14–7:54
- Thanking you sincerely for atleast agreeing now that RRR has some expansion. You have to think that it is just not a namesake as it is being promoted time to time. If it is really a namesake then you must question yourself of why there is Roudram Ranam Rudhiram words in the posters. There was no need of those words then. And anything cannot be made as an abbreviation. If they are made as an abbreviation, they have to be expanded immediately to let others understand them. Only abbreviations of places, persons and organisations are not needed as they are known to all time to time. RRR has three meaningful words which are not known to any. They have to be expanded. And the director was not against or prohibited this. Please submit his prohibition words proof. Chinnusaikrish (talk) 17:28, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- There's no denying that RRR has an expansion in Telugu; my contention is that the expansion is only namesake whereas RRR is the actual title (according to the director himself). Also, the abbreviation does not have to be the name of any person or an organisation to be legitimate. It can be made up of anything. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:35, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chinnusaikrish (talk • contribs) 10:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Summary of Chinnusaikrish's arguments
1. ""RRR"" is not the only title but a shorcut form of the native language title ROUDRAM RANAM RUDHIRAM which has to be expanded to avoid grammatical errors as it is not a place or a person's name.[1]
2. ""RRR"" cannot be even titled Rise Roar Revolt as that was not the chosen title for the native language. It was chosen for the hindi language.
3. ""RRR"" cannot be compared to Markkar: Lion of the Arabian Sea as that is a full form or a translated title of the native language title Marakkar: Arabikadalinte Simham. It cannot be even compared to Parasite as that was also a full form title or a translated title of the native language title "Gisaengchung"
4 ""RRR"" was expanded and promoted as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram time to time so lone RRR couldn't only be the title.
5 ""RRR"" telugu wikipedia page shows it as ""రౌద్రం రణం రుధిరం"" not as ""ఆర్ ఆర్ ఆర్"" which is the testiomy of my theories.[2]
References
- ^ "Rajamouli's next titled Roudram Ranam Rudhiram". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2021-08-04.
- ^ "రౌద్రం రణం రుధిరం", వికీపీడియా (in Telugu), 2021-07-31, retrieved 2021-08-04
Chinnusaikrish (talk) 10:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Comments by other editors
- Comment General guidance about article names is to use WP:COMMONNAME. For films, the Naming Conventions (film) page is a good summary for how to name various film-related articles. In particular, the foreign-language film section Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(films)#Foreign-language_films is helpful here. Given everything in those guidelines and the rather large amount of text above, I think RRR (film) is still the right title. It's the name most commonly used in English. Having a redirect to that title at Roudram Ranam Rudhiram could make sense, and perhaps adding that in the lead IF AND ONLY IF there is decent use in sources could be appropriate. WP:CONSENSUS can change, but I don't see enough support for changing the article name. Ravensfire (talk) 12:30, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Dear @Ravensfire Using a common name as the title is no problem. But what that common title is the main problem here. You just can't compare every title to this because this has an expansion and this is also about three meaningful words. It is not a place or a name or an organisation. We just can't bring Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(films)#Foreign-language_films because those foreign films have some different names in their native language but RRR is not a native language title. It is a shortcut of native language words Roudram Ranam Rudhiram so there is a difference. And this is also not a translated title. There is a title used in the respective native language. So RRR can't be the only title. And RRR anyways stays in the ALSO KNOWN AS name or a Re-direct name. So no issues with that too. The reason why people are not supporting this is because they are either non-Telugu language people (since they think this is an ALL LANGUAGE film which is not) or not understanding the difference between a shortcut form and a perfect meaningful form. Irony is they don't even want Roudram Ranam Rudhiram in the also known as section on which you need to question them. There are even many posters where the same was promoted. So, You need to ask them to say reasons of what bothers them even if RRR stays in the re-direct and also known as section. Chinnusaikrish (talk) 13:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Chinnusaikrish, please don't cast asperations towards other editors. Your reply is not helpful and doesn't assume that other editors are commenting in good faith. Please don't go down this road, it's a really good way to derail the conversation. This is a multi-national project and several of the policies and guidelines mention explicitly mention handling something like this. It's not a new scenario. Ravensfire (talk) 16:56, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Dear @Ravensfire Using a common name as the title is no problem. But what that common title is the main problem here. You just can't compare every title to this because this has an expansion and this is also about three meaningful words. It is not a place or a name or an organisation. We just can't bring Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(films)#Foreign-language_films because those foreign films have some different names in their native language but RRR is not a native language title. It is a shortcut of native language words Roudram Ranam Rudhiram so there is a difference. And this is also not a translated title. There is a title used in the respective native language. So RRR can't be the only title. And RRR anyways stays in the ALSO KNOWN AS name or a Re-direct name. So no issues with that too. The reason why people are not supporting this is because they are either non-Telugu language people (since they think this is an ALL LANGUAGE film which is not) or not understanding the difference between a shortcut form and a perfect meaningful form. Irony is they don't even want Roudram Ranam Rudhiram in the also known as section on which you need to question them. There are even many posters where the same was promoted. So, You need to ask them to say reasons of what bothers them even if RRR stays in the re-direct and also known as section. Chinnusaikrish (talk) 13:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- RRR Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:NCFILM#Foreign-language_films (note that this one talks about naming after the movie is released, so I think WP:COMMONNAME takes precedence over the WP:NCFILM until the movie is released). A quick search for some terms and the results I see (numbers might vary at your end, but not too much): "RRR" "film" - 192,000 ; "Roudram Ranam Rudhiram" - 906 ; "RRR" "Roudram Ranam Rudhiram" - 750 ; "Roar of RRR" - 8,030 ; "RRR" "film" -"Roudram Ranam Rudhiram" - 181,000 ; "Roudram Ranam Rudhiram" -"RRR" - 10 ;. I had to add "film" when searching just for "RRR" as RRR has other uses other than this film. It is clear RRR is the common name. From the searches, only ~1600 results popped up for Roudram Ranam Rudhiram and does not warrant a lede mention. As said by Ab207, all the expansions are sourced in the Marketing section. Per WP:NOINDICSCRIPTS, no native names are allowed, and one may put IPA, but in this case RRR doesn't need any IPA. My recommendation is to keep the existing disambiguated RRR (film) title, at least until the film is released (as the NCFILM will kick in after release.) In a case where the film is released differently, then as per the NCFILM#Foreign-language films, a new consensus could be reached. -- DaxServer (talk) 22:14, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- An important note: For any replies from me, please consider my above comment and consider it to be my response until the movie is released. I wouldn't be commenting any further. I would only revise my recommendation if there is a need for a new consensus based on the common name or NCFILM, after the release. -- DaxServer (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Consensus
@Ab207, Chinnusaikrish, Ravensfire, Jayanthkumar123, and DaxServer: So it has been 4 days since the last reply was and I think that we majority of us can agree that the consensus for this topic is that the title should stay the same. If I can get a confirmation we can proceed to close the discussion. SP013 (talk) 16:28, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- RRR per above discussion. -- DaxServer (talk) 16:30, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Retain the title as RRR as discussed above. Additionally, any change to the infobox credits must be done by consensus until the film is released. -- Ab207 (talk) 16:57, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Verification of content added by 223.178.74.91
Someone please verify the massive content added by the IP at Special:Diff/1038071141 (net +67,000 characters bytes). Thanks! -- DaxServer (talk) 11:19, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- The Chennai-based IP who uses a generic edit summary "Added content and fixed citations" is known to make such large additions (182.65.84.60, 106.201.141.111, 14.139.187.225 etc.). Known issues inlcude excessive citations, misleading details, dumping of information related to casting rumours and mundane marketing etc. -- Ab207 (talk) 15:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Looks like someone in the film industry/marketing agency promoting? -- DaxServer (talk) 17:01, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Could be but hard to say. They make such edits to nearly every big and medium budget film in Tamil and Telugu, so they could just a be a fan. -- Ab207 (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Should be a really huge fan. Adding such a large content in one go really requires focus! -- DaxServer (talk) 19:31, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Could be but hard to say. They make such edits to nearly every big and medium budget film in Tamil and Telugu, so they could just a be a fan. -- Ab207 (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Looks like someone in the film industry/marketing agency promoting? -- DaxServer (talk) 17:01, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
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THE RELEASE DATE OF RRR MOVIE IS JANUARY 7 2022 Deepaksenni392 (talk) 15:15, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
The release date of RRR movie is January 7 2021 Deepaksenni392 (talk) 15:16, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Ferien (talk) 15:46, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
How can we believe that this movie will change the Indian cinemas??
It's pre right's covered all the budget of the movie 42.111.208.228 (talk) 08:26, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Sooting ralated
Palace sooting all movie 2409:4055:4E8A:CC3A:86D:377A:E00D:855F (talk) 10:14, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Why full form of RRR is not mentioned?
It should be mentioned RRR stands for Rise Revolt Revenge 2409:4042:4E9E:C72D:0:0:710B:1102 (talk) 13:29, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Please read the discussions above — DaxServer (talk) 13:38, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- For a quick recap, full forms in five lanaguges are mentioned at RRR (film)#Marketing. Its not mentioned in the lead becuase the expansion is not part of the film's title. -- Ab207 (talk) 15:12, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
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49.206.34.98 (talk) 14:32, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Budget is 500 Crore.
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — DaxServer (t · c · m) 14:37, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
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Budget off RRR is 400cr. 2409:4056:99:C74F:0:0:23A3:B0A1 (talk) 13:30, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not done Already a higher budget is sourced in the article. If you have an authentic newer source from the producers that says the budget is lesser (400 cr), bring it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:11, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
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Bardhanmanilal (talk)
Box office - 110cr
Box office - 110cr Bardhanmanilal (talk) 18:36, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
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X: Post-production of the film began simultaneously before the wrapping-up and continuation of film production. The dubbing process began during April 2020, with Rama Rao and Charan dubbed their portions for the film in the respective homes, thus being the first persons to do so.[1][2] Both of them gave voiceovers for each other's introduction teasers.[3][4] In June 2021, the film producers reported that both the actors had completed dubbing for the film,[5] and had also dubbed for themselves in the Tamil version of the film for the first time.[6] Rajamouli decided not to spend much time on the post-production works of the film, unlike his other films where he wanted to supervise the output of each films, as he and his team had worked on for more than three years, and had to wrap the film on the earliest before the film's release.[7]
Srinivas Mohan serves as the visual effects supervisor of the film along with Framestore and Moving Picture Company (MPC), which are the principal Visual effects studio of the film.[8] Alzahra VFX, NY VFXWaala, Redefine, Knack Studios, Makuta VFX, Digital Domain, Rhythm and Hues Studios, Method Studios, Rodeo FX, Technicolor VFX, Legend3D, The Third Floor, Inc, Clear Angle Studios, Halon Entertainment, 4DMax and Cinesite, among others, are responsible for some of the other visual effects in the film. In an interview, he revealed that pre-visualization, gammage, lidar scanning, light stage technology are extensively being used.[9] An extensive visual effects work took place for more than six months during the post-production process.[10]
Y: Post-production of the film began simultaneously before the wrapping-up and continuation of film production. The dubbing process began during April 2020, with Rama Rao and Charan dubbed their portions for the film in the respective homes, thus being the first persons to do so.[11][12] Both of them gave voiceovers for each other's introduction teasers.[13][14] In June 2021, the film producers reported that both the actors had completed dubbing for the film.[15] On 26 August 2021, after filming completed, the film entered into extensive post-production phase.[16] Rajamouli decided not to spend much time on the post-production works of the film, unlike his other films where he wanted to supervise the output of each films, as he and his team had worked on for more than three years and had to wrap the film on the earliest before the film's release.[17] The dubbing works were completed by late-October 2021.[18] Both Rama Rao and Charan dubbed for all the five languages for the film.[19]
Srinivas Mohan serves as the visual effects supervisor of the film along with Framestore and Moving Picture Company (MPC), which are the principal Visual effects studio of the film.[20] Alzahra VFX, NY VFXWaala, Redefine, Knack Studios, Makuta VFX, Digital Domain, Rhythm and Hues Studios, Method Studios, Rodeo FX, Technicolor VFX, Legend3D, The Third Floor, Inc, Clear Angle Studios, Halon Entertainment, 4DMax and Cinesite, among others, are responsible for some of the other visual effects in the film. In an interview, he revealed that pre-visualization, gammage, lidar scanning, light stage technology are extensively being used.[21] An extensive visual effects work took place for more than six months during the post-production process.[10]
The final copy was ready by late-November 2021, and was submitted to the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) by that month.[22] On 9 December 2021, the film received a U/A certificate from the Censor Board, and a runtime of 187 minutes being finalised for the film.[23] 122.174.166.91 (talk) 11:08, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Done with edits for language/fact checking. Heartmusic678 (talk) 11:25, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
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- ^ "RRR Buzz: Ram Charan and NTR kick-off dubbing formalities at home? - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 10 August 2021.
- ^ "Ram Charan's voiceover turns out to be the biggest highlight of RRR Hindi teaser". The Times of India. Retrieved 4 June 2021.
- ^ "Jr NTR, Ram Charan begin dubbing for SS Rajamouli's magnum opus RRR". Hindustan Times. 14 April 2020. Retrieved 4 June 2021.
- ^ "SS Rajamouli's RRR nears completion as Jr NTR, Ram Charan finish dubbing in two languages-Entertainment News , Firstpost". Firstpost. 29 June 2021. Retrieved 10 August 2021.
- ^ "Junior NTR to dub in Tamil for his role in 'RRR'". The News Minute. 28 March 2020. Retrieved 10 August 2021.
- ^ "Will His Decision Cost RRR?". Sify. Retrieved 10 August 2021.
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- ^ "RRR Buzz: Ram Charan and NTR kick-off dubbing formalities at home? - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 10 August 2021.
- ^ "Ram Charan's voiceover turns out to be the biggest highlight of RRR Hindi teaser". The Times of India. Retrieved 4 June 2021.
- ^ "Jr NTR, Ram Charan begin dubbing for SS Rajamouli's magnum opus RRR". Hindustan Times. 14 April 2020. Retrieved 4 June 2021.
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- ^ IBTimes (2021-12-10). "RRR: Among 4 Languages My Dubbing is Best in Kannada as per SS Rajamouli: Ram Charan". www.ibtimes.co.in. Retrieved 2022-03-17.
- ^ "All we know about SS Rajamouli's VFX-heavy project 'RRR' so far". AnimationXpress. 31 March 2020. Retrieved 2 June 2021.
- ^ "The teaser of SS Rajamouli's upcoming VFX-rich actioner 'RRR' is out, here's what we know so far". AnimationXpress. 21 October 2020. Retrieved 2 June 2021.
- ^ "RRR Movie Censor Report: సెన్సార్ పూర్తి చేసుకున్న 'ఆర్ఆర్ఆర్'.. మూవీ రన్ టైమ్ ఎంతంటే?". Zee News Telugu (in Telugu). 2021-12-09. Retrieved 2022-03-17.
- ^ "RRR: Alia Bhatt, Ajay Devgn, Ram Charan, Jr NTR Starrer's Gets THIS Certificate". ZEE5. 2021-12-09. Retrieved 2022-03-17.
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- Theatrical
The film is scheduled to be released theatrically on 25 March 2022.[1] The film's release was deferred multiple times; earlier it was scheduled to be released on 30 July 2020.[2] However, in February 2020,[3] the release date was revised as 8 January 2021 (coinciding with Sankranthi).[4][5] In November 2020, Rajamouli said that the release date will be confirmed after the completion of shooting, which was on hold due to COVID-19 pandemic.[6] On the eve of Republic Day (25 January 2021), the new release date was announced as 13 October 2021,[7][8] but due to COVID-19 pandemic aftermath the release has been postponed.[9] In early October 2021, the theatrical release date was scheduled as 7 January 2022.[10] However, it was postponed indefinitely in early January due to restrictions on cinema due to COVID-19 pandemic.[11] Later in January, the makers announced two tentative release dates, 18 March 2022 and 28 April 2022, whichever is conducive for a theatrical release due to the COVID situation, before zeroing on 25 March 2022.[12][1]
The film is intended to release in Telugu along with the dubbed versions in Hindi, Tamil, Malayalam, Kannada and other Indian and foreign languages.[13][14] The film is also planned to release in IMAX, 3D, and Dolby Cinema.[15]
- Distribution
Originally the film made a pre-release business of ₹400 crore (US$48 million),[16][17] however the revised pre-release deal was later revealed as ₹890 crore (US$110 million), the highest for any Indian film till date.[18][19] The domestic theatrical rights in the Andhra Pradesh and Telangana region were reported to be under ₹165 crore (US$20 million)[20] In February 2021,[21] Lyca Productions acquired the film's theatrical distribution rights for Tamil Nadu for a price of ₹48 crore (US$5.8 million).[22][23] The following month, Pen Studios acquired the theatrical rights for North India under the Pen Marudhar Entertainment banner, in addition to electronic, satellite and digital rights of all language versions.[24][25] The deal for the North Indian theatrical release rights, were reported to be under ₹140 crore (US$17 million).[26] The Kerala and Karnataka theatrical rights were sold for a respective price of ₹15 crore (US$1.8 million) and ₹45 crore (US$5.4 million).[18] The overseas rights were sold to Phars FIlms for ₹70 crore (US$8.4 million).[27][28]
- Marketing
The makers invited the expansion for the title RRR in various languages from the people.[29][30] On 25 March 2020, the expansion of the title RRR is revealed as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram in Telugu,[31] Raththam Ranam Rowthiram in Tamil,[32] Roudra Rana Rudhira in Kannada, Rudhiram Ranam Roudhram in Malayalam (all of which translate to Rage, War, Blood) and Rise Roar Revolt in Hindi.[33]
The official social media handle for the film was launched during the film announcement.[34][35] During the second wave of COVID-19, the movie crew converted the handle, which was used for film promotions into a COVID-19 helpline, regarding the availability of emergency services and alarming the people's safety.[36] In August 2021, the team announced that Rama Rao will handle the official Instagram handle for the film, for posting updates regarding the film.[37] In October 2021, PVR Cinemas announced that around 850+ of its screens will be re-branded as "PVRRR" until the release and run of the film. The same month, Rajamouli and the PVR team had unveiled the re-branded logo of the company.[38][39] After the song "Naatu Naatu" released in November 2021,[40] the hook step choreographed by Prem Rakshith and, performed by Charan and Rama Rao became popular and a viral hit worldwide.[41] Many have recreated the hook step by dancing to the song and posted on the social media.[42] The song is promoted as #RRRMassAnthem which gained publicity for the film.
The trailer of the film was initially scheduled to release on 3 December 2021,[43] but was postponed and released on 8 December 2021 in five languages, including Telugu.[44][45] From the next day, four trailer launch events were held on three different days for five versions of the film in Mumbai (Hindi),[46] Chennai (Tamil and Malayalam),[47] Bengaluru (Kannada)[48] and Hyderabad (Telugu).[49] Later, on 19 December 2021, a pre-release event was held at Gurukul Ground near Film City in Mumbai to promote film's Hindi version.[citation needed] Hosted by Karan Johar, the team invited Salman Khan as the chief guest.[50] The event was not telecasted live as it's television streaming rights were acquired by Zee Network. It was telecasted on Zee TV, Zee Cinema and Zee Cinemalu on 31 December 2021 coinciding with the New Year.[51] The next day, it was made available on YouTube. To promote the film's Tamil version, a pre-release event was held on 27 December 2021 at Chennai Trade Centre, Chennai.[52][53] Udhayanidhi Stalin and Sivakarthikeyan were the chief guests of the event.[54] On 29 December 2021, the team took part in the Malayalam version's pre-release event held at Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala.[55] Tovino Thomas was the chief guest of the event.[56][57] Soon after, the film's release was postponed and promotional activities were given a break. The producers of the film faced a loss of ₹18−20 crore on promotions, as the release was delayed again.[58][59]
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- Theatrical
RRR is scheduled to have special premieres across India and United States on 24 March 2022,[60][61] before its worldwide theatrical release on 25 March.[1][62] Earlier, it was scheduled to be theatrically released on 30 July 2020.[63] However, in February 2020,[64] the release date was revised as 8 January 2021, a week prior to the Sankranthi festival, which falls on 14 January 2021.[65][66] However, due to COVID-19 pandemic lockdown which led to production disruption, the film's release was put on hold.[67] Rajamouli said that the new release date will be confirmed after the completion of shooting.[6] On the eve of Republic Day (25 January 2021), a new release date of 13 October 2021, coinciding with the eve of Dusshera weekend, was announced,[68][69] but was again deferred, citing theatrical restrictions across the world due to the second wave of COVID-19 and its aftermath.[9][70]
In early October, the makers revised the theatrical release date to 7 January 2022, ahead of the Sankranthi festival.[10] However, a week before the release, the producers announced that the film's release will be postponed indefinitely due to the increasing number of COVID-19 cases, fuelled by the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant.[71][72] In mid-January, the makers announced two tentative release dates, 18 March 2022 and 28 April 2022, whichever is conducive for a theatrical release due to the pandemic situation.[73][74] Later, the producers finalised a new scheduled release date of 25 March 2022.[75] The film is intended to release in Telugu along with the dubbed versions in Hindi, Tamil, Malayalam, Kannada and other Indian and foreign languages.[76][77]
Following the ticket price hike issued by Chief minister of Andhra Pradesh, Y. S. Jagan Mohan Reddy in mid-March 2022,[78] the film was categorised under "super high-budget films" where the films in this category, get a hike of ₹100.[79] The film's team further met Cinematography Minister Perni Venkataramaiah, to enhance ticket prices, which got an approval and the government granted permission to the film's team to increase rates of admission.[80][81] As per the government order, the state government gave permission to the managements of all the theatres in the state to increase an amount of ₹75 per ticket over, with the admission rates for all classes will come into effect from 25 March 2022 (the film's release date), and will continue till ten days of its release.[82][83]
- Screenings and statistics
In November 2021, The Times of India had reported that RRR will be released in over 10,000 screens worldwide, which was the "highest for an Indian film".[84] In India, the film is estimated to be screened in over 2,300 screens, where the film's Telugu version being premiered in over 1,000 screens.[85] The Hindi version will be showcased in over 793 screens, whereas the Tamil version will be released in over 291 screens.[85] The Kannada and Malayalam-dubbed versions will be screened in over 66 and 62 screens, respectively.[85] While also being showcased at over 1000 screens in United Kingdom, the film will be screened at BFI IMAX, the largest cinema theatre in United Kingdom.[86] The film is expected to be screened in over 1,150 locations in the United States in around 3,000 theatres with 1,000 odd multiplexes across the country, which is touted to be a record for an Indian film.[87][88]
The film is also planned to release in IMAX, 3D and Dolby Cinema.[89][90] According to trade sources, the film will be screened in over 21 IMAX screens in India, while in overseas, the film will be screened in over 100 IMAX theatres, a first for a non-Indian film.[61] However, the film will not be screened in IMAX formats in Andhra Pradesh and Telangana, due to the lack of IMAX theatre in the states, where Prasad Multiplex in Hyderabad, the only IMAX theatre in the region, stopped using the technology since December 2021.[91] It is also the first Indian film to be released in Dolby Cinema in overseas theatres.[90] Sarigama Cinemas, which distributed the film in United States had planned the film's premiere in large-format resolution DCP at Cinemark XD, a first for an Indian film.[92]
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- Distribution
Originally the film made a pre-release business of ₹400 crore (US$48 million),[93][94] however the revised pre-release deal was later revealed as ₹890 crore (US$110 million), the highest for any Indian film till date.[18][95] The domestic theatrical rights in the Andhra Pradesh and Telangana region were reported to be under ₹165 crore (US$20 million)[96] In February 2021,[97] Lyca Productions acquired the film's theatrical distribution rights for Tamil Nadu for a price of ₹48 crore (US$5.8 million).[98][99] The following month, Pen Studios acquired the theatrical rights for North India under the Pen Marudhar Entertainment banner, in addition to electronic, satellite and digital rights of all language versions.[100][101] The deal for the North Indian theatrical release rights, were reported to be under ₹140 crore (US$17 million).[102] The Kerala theatrical rights were acquired by Shibu Thameens, with Riya Shibu, presenting the film under the HR Studios banner. Thameens bought the film's distribution rights for ₹15 crore (US$1.8 million).[103] The Karnataka theatrical rights were purchased by KVN Entertainment for ₹45 crore (US$5.4 million).[18] The overseas rights were sold to Phars FIlms for ₹70 crore (US$8.4 million).[104][105]
- Marketing
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The makers invited the expansion for the title RRR in various languages from the people.[106][107] On 25 March 2020, the expansion of the title RRR is revealed as Roudram Ranam Rudhiram in Telugu,[108] Raththam Ranam Rowthiram in Tamil,[109] Roudra Rana Rudhira in Kannada, Rudhiram Ranam Roudhram in Malayalam (all of which translate to Rage, War, Blood) and Rise Roar Revolt in Hindi.[110]
The official social media handle for the film was launched during the film announcement.[111][112] During the second wave of COVID-19, the movie crew converted the handle, which was used for film promotions into a COVID-19 helpline, regarding the availability of emergency services and alarming the people's safety.[113] In August 2021, the team announced that Rama Rao will handle the official Instagram handle for the film, for posting updates regarding the film.[114] Indian multiplex chain PVR Cinemas joined the film as their official multiplex partner.[115] In October 2021, PVR Cinemas announced that around 850+ of its screens will be re-branded as "PVRRR" until the release and run of the film. The same month, Rajamouli and the PVR team had unveiled the re-branded logo of the company.[116][117] Rajamouli launched a special 45-second glimpse of the film at the event and planned to release the glimpse same day online.[118] However, the glimpse was released on 1 November 2021.[119] After the song "Naatu Naatu" released in November 2021,[120] the hook step choreographed by Prem Rakshith and, performed by Charan and Rama Rao became popular and a viral hit worldwide.[121] Many have recreated the hook step by dancing to the song and posted on the social media.[122] The song is promoted as #RRRMassAnthem which gained publicity for the film.
The trailer of the film was initially scheduled to release on 3 December 2021,[123] but was postponed and later released on 9 December 2021 in five languages.[124][125] The following day, four trailer launch events were held on three different days for five versions of the film in Mumbai (Hindi),[126] Chennai (Tamil and Malayalam),[127] Bengaluru (Kannada)[128] and Hyderabad (Telugu).[129] On 19 December 2021, a pre-release event was held at Gurukul Ground near Film City in Mumbai to promote film's Hindi version.[130] Hosted by Karan Johar, the team invited Salman Khan as the chief guest.[130] But the event was not telecasted live, and was later telecasted on Zee TV, Zee Cinema and Zee Cinemalu on 31 December 2021 coinciding with the New Year's Eve.[131] The following day, it was made available on YouTube. To promote the film's Tamil version, a pre-release event was held on 27 December 2021 at Chennai Trade Centre, Chennai,[132][133] with Udhayanidhi Stalin and Sivakarthikeyan gracing the event as the chief guests.[134] On 29 December 2021, the team took part in the Malayalam version's pre-release event held at Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala,[135] felicitated by Tovino Thomas as the chief guest.[136][137] Soon after, the film's release was postponed and promotional activities were given a break. The producers of the film faced a loss of ₹18−20 crore on promotions, as the release was delayed again.[138][139]
Promotions restarted from March 2022,[140][141] with a special Snapchat filter was being launched before the release.[142] On 18 March 2022, the cast and crew attended Expo 2020 held in Dubai, as a part of "media and entertainment fortnight" hosted by Indian pavilion.[143] On 19 March 2022, the team hosted another pre-release event at Agalagurki, Chikkaballapur in Karnataka, with Karnataka chief minister Basavaraj Bommai, Shiva Rajkumar, Chiranjeevi and Nandamuri Balakrishna, amongst others arriving the function as chief guests.[144][145] The team attended a marathon promotional tour across the country to promote the film. Starting from 18-23 March 2022, the promotions will take place across Hyderabad, Bangalore, Vadodara, Delhi, Amritsar, Jaipur, Kolkata and Varanasi.[146]
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