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WikiCup Newsletter[edit]

21:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


Delivered for the WikiCup by  GARDEN  at 21:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC). Queries to my talk.

Operation Charnwood[edit]

I passed Operation Charnwood's GAN; congrats on getting another step closer to an Overlord GT/FT! (an aside: did you see my comment on the work group's talk?)
Could I ask you to review Design 1047 battlecruiser for FAC in return? :-) Thanks! the_ed17 :  Chat  03:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Food for further thoughts:
  • what makes [1] reliable?
  • reference standardizing to "Author (year), p. 000" or "Author, p. 000" (pp.'s for page ranges though) the_ed17 :  Chat  03:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXVII (March 2009)[edit]

The Bugle.png The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXXVII (March 2009)
From the coordinators

The big news of course was the seventh project coordinator election covering the period ending 30 September. The quality of the candidates was extremely high, with some of the project's top content builders running alongside highly experienced backroom people. Of the eighteen candidates, sixteen were finally appointed, giving us probably the most rounded coordination team so far.

Those elected were: Abraham, B.S., Bellhalla, Cam, Eurocopter, EyeSerene, Ian Rose, Jackyd101, Joe N, Lordoliver, Maralia, MBK004, Nick-D, Roger Davies (lead), Skinny87, The ed17 and TomStar81. Kirill Lokshin continues in his role as coordinator emeritus. Thanks must go to the departing coordinators – Bedford, JonCatalán and Woody – for helping make the project what it is today

The C-class referendum, held at the same time, produced a slight majority of votes for introduction, but was insufficient to demonstrate a clear consensus. So, for the time being at least, therefore, the project will continue without C-class. Otherwise, focus is likely be on the Academy and the development of courses to develop reviewing, copy-editing and article-building skills. Some review of our task forces is also probable, perhaps consolidating some of the smaller, quieter, ones. As ever, input from everyone is not only welcomed but positively encouraged.

The coordinators' gratitude goes not only to those who participated in the election and referenda but also to everyone who works quietly and conscientiously away to make participation in this project rewarding, successful and productive. Milhist is very fortunate in its membership! Thank you all,  Roger Davies talk 16:15, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles of note

New featured articles:

  1. Byzantine navy
  2. Falaise Pocket
  3. Frank Hubert McNamara
  4. Heinrich Bär
  5. Juan Davis Bradburn
  6. Operation Cobra
  7. Port Chicago disaster
  8. SM U-66
  9. SMS Moltke (1910)
  10. Surrender of Japan
  11. Tom Derrick
  12. William Henry Harrison

New featured lists:

  1. List of United States Naval Academy alumni
  2. List of United States Naval Academy alumni (astronauts)
  3. List of United States Naval Academy alumni (Chiefs of Naval Operations)
  4. List of United States Naval Academy alumni (legislators)

New featured pictures:

  1. USS Texas (1892)

New A-Class articles:

  1. 1964 Brinks Hotel bombing
  2. Ba Cut
  3. Battle of Artemisium
  4. Battle of Fort Washington
  5. Battle of Morotai
  6. Battle of Tippecanoe
  7. Battle of Vimy Ridge
  8. Battle of Wau
  9. Design 1047 battlecruiser
  10. Fountain of Time
  11. Frank Horton Berryman
  12. Gia Long
  13. Henry Wells (general)
  14. Hill 262
  15. Hue chemical attacks
  16. Japanese battleship Haruna
  17. Jon Burge
  18. Nassau class battleship
  19. Operation Freshman
  20. SM UB-43
  21. SM UB-45
  22. Stanley Savige
  23. Xa Loi Pagoda raids
Project news
Awards and honors

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Canadian National Vimy Memorial[edit]

I am in the midst of an edit on the Canadian National Vimy Memorial article. We have come across a pleasant surprise, with contributor up-loading some beautiful images of the memorial. We are faced with a bit of a problem though. The vimy memorial has numerous distinct statues and we are faced with the difficultly in presenting them properly in the vimy memorial sub-section without sufficient space to mention them all. I have suggested the use of either multiple image templates or a gallery. I could really use some help on how to pull this one off given the images contributed by Tango7174 are awesome. Some admin help would REALLY be appreciated on this one for direction/ see: Talk:Canadian_National_Vimy_Memorial#Vmy memorial sub-section. --Labattblueboy (talk) 07:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XI[edit]

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 21:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.

Crisis[edit]

An unexpected development on Wikipedia that concerns us has been brought to our attention by Moonriddengirl. Please follow this link for more information. TomStar81 (Talk) 23:31, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

WikiChevrons.png The WikiChevrons
By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your devoted contributions to the WikiProject's Peer and A-Class reviews, I am delighted to award you this WikiChevrons.  Roger Davies talk 13:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XII[edit]

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 16:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.

RfA Thankspam[edit]

Thanks to everyone who took the time and trouble to take part in my RfA whether support, oppose or neutral. All comments are valued and will be considered carefully in the coming weeks. Feel free to add more advice on my talk page if you think I need it. SpinningSpark 21:40, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
In case you're wondering, the image is a smiley, just a little more aesthetic, but not as serious as the Mona Lisa
Giovanni Francesco Caroto 001.jpg

Deployment of PzLehr & 2ndSSPzDiv[edit]

Greetings Climie; do you know of any sources which can add detail to the comment in Copp (Fields of Fire) that these divisions were very depleted before the move. Bearing in mind that they had been refitted before the invasion how much of their fighting power remained when they were moved west? Keith-264 (talk) 12:07, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XIII[edit]

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 09:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.

Re Op Charnwood[edit]

Will do (apologies for late reply; been away) EyeSerenetalk 08:12, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations![edit]

WPMH ACR.PNG The Military history A-Class medal
For excellent work on Japanese battleship Haruna, Moro River Campaign and Operation Charnwood, all promoted to A-Class between March and April 2009, by order of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, you are hereby awarded the Milhist A-Class medal. Cheers, Eurocopter (talk) 16:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Would you be interested in helping?[edit]

We need more input to a discussion to resolve "if Gallipoli was part of European operations or not". You can reach the discussion using this link Conflict over Gallipoli Campaign. --TarikAkin (talk) 00:38, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Canadians and the PIAT[edit]

Hey Cam. I'm rewriting the article on the PIAT in my sandbox; I've done Design and Development, and now I'm onto the far more difficult task of its operational history. I know that Canadian units were the first to be issued with PIATs, just in time for Sicily; I was wondering if you might take a look through your books and see if there's any mention of it? Cheers, Skinny87 (talk) 13:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, one more thing. In the Battle of Ortona article, it has a footnote mentioning that PIATs were used to fight through houses, and has a citation for 'Bercuson, p. 175', but he has several books. You don't happen to know which book it's from, do you? Skinny87 (talk) 14:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XIV[edit]

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 14:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.

WikiCup Newsletter XV[edit]

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 08:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXVIII (April 2009)[edit]

The Bugle.png The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXXVIII (April 2009)
From the coordinators

Once again, this month, we have a bumper crop of featured and A-class content, and our heartfelt thanks go to editors who have worked so hard to write these. But with our growth in quality content comes increased demand for reviewers. Which is where you can help.

Reviewing is easy and rewarding. You don't need any prior experience and you don't need to write a full review. Any input is helpful so you initially can just comment on what you're comfortable with. Most reviewers start off by focusing one or two things – say, the historical context, or the text, or the references, or the layout, or the images – and as they gain experience, they broaden the scope of the review. You can easily keep up to date with which articles need review, by copying this text – {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} – to your userpage or talkpage. Thanks in anticipation,  Roger Davies

Articles of note

New featured articles:

  1. 1964 Brinks Hotel bombing
  2. Battle of Tippecanoe
  3. Capture of Fort Ticonderoga
  4. Design 1047 battlecruiser
  5. Hue chemical attacks
  6. M249 squad automatic weapon
  7. Nassau class battleship
  8. Raymond Brownell
  9. Take Ichi convoy
  10. Zanzibar Revolution

New featured lists:

  1. List of United States Air Force Academy alumni
  2. List of United States Military Academy alumni (astronauts)
  3. List of United States Military Academy alumni (non-graduates)
  4. List of United States Naval Academy alumni (Medal of Honor)

New featured topics:

  1. Lists of United States Naval Academy alumni

New featured pictures:

  1. Richmond after the American Civil War
  2. Charles P. Stone
  3. Idi Amin caricature
  4. Joan of Arc WWI lithograph
  5. M777 Light Towed Howitzer
  6. Robert McGee, scalped as a child by Sioux Chief Little Turtle

New A-Class articles:

  1. Adrian Cole (RAAF officer)
  2. Amagi class battlecruiser
  3. Arthur Henry Cobby
  4. Battle of Barnet
  5. Battle of Ticonderoga (1759)
  6. Brazilian battleship Minas Geraes
  7. First Battle of Târgu Frumos
  8. Fort Ticonderoga
  9. Hastings Ismay, 1st Baron Ismay
  10. John Northcott
  11. Keith Johnson (cricket administrator)
  12. Landing at Nadzab
  13. Landing on Emirau
  14. Moltke class battlecruiser
  15. Moro River Campaign
  16. Operation Charnwood
  17. Operation Deny Flight
  18. Otto Becher
  19. Polish culture during World War II
  20. Roman–Parthian War of 58–63
  21. Samuel Burston
  22. SMS Seydlitz
  23. SM UB-10
  24. Ton That Dinh
  25. Wolfgang Lüth
Project news
Awards and honors

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GA Sweeps invitation[edit]

Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are a member of the GA WikiProject. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.

We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 08:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XVI[edit]

Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 09:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.

WikiCup Newsletter XVII[edit]

Delivered for the WikiCup by The Helpful Bot at 19:26, 23 May 2009 (UTC). To report errors leave at message here.

WikiCup newsletter XVII.V[edit]

This is just a quick reminder that the round ends this Friday, May 29, 2009. I wanted to let you guys know the current standings. If you are very close, but not close enough, work as hard as possible these next two days. Pool leaders are listed as usual, and under the 10 wildcards, are competitors that are still fighting for a spot. Also, if you currently have any un-reviewed GAN's up and you'd like them to be reviewed and counted for this round, you must place them on the appropriate thread of the WikiCup talk page.

Pool A
  1. Wales Shoemaker's Holiday (647)
Pool B
  1. Colombia ThinkBlue (247)
Pool C
  1. Sweden Theleftorium (455)
Pool D
  1. Denmark Candlewicke (539)
Pool E
  1. Mexico Durova (479)
Pool F
  1. Switzerland Sasata (961)
Current Wildcards
  1. United States Useight (393)
  2. Iceland Scorpion0422 (372)
  3. Thailand Rlevse (329)
  4. Japan Wrestlinglover (307)
  5. Cambodia Paxse (285)
  6. Maryland Ottava Rima (248)
  7. Flag of Albany, New York.svg Mitchazenia (226)
  8. Republic of Ireland Juliancolton (181)
  9. Michigan the_ed17 (179)
  10. Isle of Man J Milburn (168)
  11. Confederate States of America Bedford (156)
  12. Toronto Gary King (147)
  13. New South Wales 97198 (142)
  14. Luxembourg Ceranthor (111)
  15. India Tinucherian (106)
  16. Vanuatu Matthewedwards (98)

 GARDEN ,  iMatthew :  Chat  , and The Helpful One The Helpful Bot 00:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XVIII[edit]

Delivered for the WikiCup by The Helpful Bot at 14:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC). To report errors leave at message here.

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XXXIX (May 2009)[edit]

The Bugle.png The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXXIX (May 2009)
From the coordinators
  • With end of year exams beckoning for many members, this has been a quiet month on the talk pages for Milhist. (If you are facing exams yourself, we all wish you the very best of luck!) During this quieter period, some of our most active reviewers are busy revising so it would be really appreciated if you can help with peer reviews or A-Class reviews. You can easily track articles needing review, by copying {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} to your userpage.
  • This month sees our first newsletter editorial. The idea is to provide regular tips and hints to help editors get up to speed with our large (and sometimes complicated) project. This month's piece, by EyeSerene, explains the workings of the project's main template, which is at the core of the project's tagging and assessing activities.  Roger Davies talk 20:26, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Articles of note

New featured articles:

  1. 1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash
  2. Arthur Henry Cobby
  3. Battle of Barnet
  4. Fort Ticonderoga
  5. Fountain of Time
  6. Neil Hamilton Fairley
  7. Operation Perch
  8. SMS Seydlitz
  9. SS Pennsylvanian

New featured lists:

  1. List of United States Military Academy alumni (Medal of Honor)
  2. List of United States Military Academy alumni (Superintendents)

New featured topics:

New featured pictures:

  1. The Battle of Schevening
  2. USS West Virginia (BB-48)

New A-Class articles:

  1. Albert Kesselring
  2. Frank Bladin
  3. Henry Burrell (RAN officer)
  4. List of Knight's Cross recipients of the Kriegsmarine
  5. List of Knight's Cross recipients of the Schnellboot service
  6. List of Knight's Cross recipients of the U-boat service
  7. Midshipman
  8. SM UB-14
  9. SM UB-16
  10. SS American (1900)
  11. Teddy Sheean
  12. Tucker class destroyer
  13. Yorktown-class gunboat
Project news
Awards and honours
Editorial: "How to use the Milhist template"

Welcome to a new occasional feature of The Bugle, where over coming issues we'll be exploring some of the roles, tasks, and technical functions that go into creating what archivist and researcher Simon Fowler has described as the best general resource for military history on the internet. As a project we can rightly be proud of that accolade, and we gratefully acknowledge the debt we owe to those dedicated editors from across Wikipedia that have helped to make the Military history WikiProject what it is today.

Many editors' first inkling of milhist's existence is when they spot our project banner on an article talk page. The banner can be easily added to appropriate articles by any editor, by typing {{WPMILHIST}} at (or near) the top of the talk page on a new line, and saving the page with an appropriate edit summary. This short form of the template will add the article to our project, and also flag the article as needing assessment and assignment to a task force by automatically adding it to the unassessed articles and articles with no associated task force categories.

As with many templates in use on Wikipedia, additional parameters can be specified. Possibly the most useful to include is the class parameter, because this will help out any editors who come along later to assess the article. To add the class parameter, edit the template markup to look like {{WPMILHIST|class=}}... and if you wish, have a read through the assessment guidance on milhists's quality scale and assign a rating from Stub- to B-Class yourself. A banner template with, for example, a Stub-Class article rating will look like {{WPMILHIST|class=stub}}. Because B-Class is assessed against a checklist it has some additional parameters, so when adding the project banner to an article talk-page, even if you don't intend to assess the article yourself it can be a real help to subsequent editors to include these too. This version of the template can be entered as {{WPMILHIST|class=|B1=|B2=|B3=|B4=|B5=}}. For detailed guidance on exactly what the five B-Class criteria are, see the B-class checklist.

Finally, when adding the milhist banner it's useful to assign the article to one (or more) of our task forces. This will help to bring it to the attention of those editors most likely to be interested in, and knowledgeable about, the subject. As with assessment, task force assignment is accomplished by adding a parameter to the template—in this case, simply the name of the task force followed by =yes (or =y). For example, to assign a Start-Class article to the Second World War and Canadian task forces, the template should read {{WPMILHIST|class=start|B1=|B2=|B3=|B4=|B5=|WWII=yes|Canadian=yes}}.

For a full list of all the banner template parameters and more detailed usage instructions, see Template:WPMILHIST; if you are unsure as to whether or not an article belongs with milhist or what task force(s) might be appropriate, or if you have any other questions, you are welcome to ask at our main project talk page. Happy templating! EyeSerenetalk

Simon Fowler, Guide to Military History on the Internet, UK:Pen & Sword 2007, ISBN 9781844156061, p. 7

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re: Epic[edit]

Thank you very much, Cam, for the barnstar. The interview request came out of the blue and as I'd done much of the drafting it seemed sensible to respond. The interview lasted about an hour so based on the amount that ended up in print, I guess there was probably a high twaddle to fact ratio :) Thanks again,  Roger Davies talk 20:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XIX and XX[edit]

Delivered by The Helpful Bot at 21:51, 13 June 2009 (UTC) for the WikiCup. To report errors, please leave a message on the talk page.

Congrats![edit]

Patina Barnstar with Helm.png WikiProject Ships Barnstar
For your hard work in getting Yamato-class battleship up to FA status I hereby award you the WikiProject Ships Barnstar. Outstanding work, Climie.ca. Keep it up! TomStar81 (Talk) 22:10, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Now that Asia and North America have been accounted the next runner up looks to be South America, as Ed is working very hard on Brazilian battleships. Oddly, for all the work they did in getting us to the dreadnought era, the Europeans have yet to get a battleship class up on the board. As for competition: I'll bring my six, and you can bring your three, it'll be two on one, and we can see who wins in a good ole fashion gunfight; Or if you prefer, we can simply compare the number of people who visit these pages each month to settle the issue of who has the best battleship class ;-) TomStar81 (Talk) 03:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Whoo! And, just saying here...my pre-dreadnought, dreadnought, super-dreadnought and large cruisers would swoop in during the middle of the battle between you two and be the overall victor. ;) —Ed (TalkContribs) 03:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey Tom, are you forgetting something? Not to mention a bevy of battlecruisers :P Parsecboy (talk) 12:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)