User talk:Daicaregos

A wander or a line in the sand?

It is nice to see you back at the crease. Is this a night watchman's stay or a vanguard attack? The later will be of great benefit to WP Wales. FruitMonkey (talk) 00:19, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I sure hope it's a permanent garrison post. Glad to have you back with us Dai.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:47, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you both. Not sure yet - we'll see. Daicaregos (talk) 07:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I hope you won't let GoodDay drive you away. Honestly after his last nasty message about you on my talk page I've given up on him. He keeps digging bigger holes for himself; however his latest attack oagainst you is pathetic and displays a persecution complex on the lines of a "Daicaregos is out to get me" fantasy. (Shakes head).--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:39, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

"I hope you won't let GoodDay drive you away." Unlike others. 195.27.17.3 (talk) 17:01, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

GoodDay is disrupting other parts of the encyclopaedia these days, following his ban from British and Irish related subjects. I hope those whom he did drive away will return. They are needed (and missed) here. Daicaregos (talk) 07:36, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it was disappointing. Thank you for your support. It is complete paranoia, of course. He's managed to get himself a block-log and an arbitration case with no help from me. Think we've seen the "It's all somebody else's fault" syndrome from him often enough. Quite sad, really. Shouldn't his mentors crack down on that sort of behaviour, or have they given up on him as a lost cause? Daicaregos (talk) 08:51, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

One cannot really blame his mentors as keeping GoodDay in check would require round-the-clock supervision which no editor, however vigilant and dedicated, has the time for.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:09, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

welcome

Not that we know each other from previous encounters, but your user page gives the impression you are Welsh, so you might be able to help me at cy:Wicipedia:Y_Caffi#Gavin_.2F_Gwalchgwn - thanks Agathoclea (talk) 11:03, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but I do not know the answer to that question. Daicaregos (talk) 07:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

While you were away

Glad you are back, DC. Don't know if you are interested, but I looked for you input here. I think we have reached a status quo anyway (or is that a stalemate, oh well). Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Martin. I looked at the Newport article & talk page. I pretty much agree with everything said on the subject by Pwimageglow. But, as you say, the article seems faily stable at that, so I don't think further input would be helpful now. Appreciate your asking. Cheers for now, Daicaregos (talk) 07:23, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

GoodDay

Dai, don't for a minute think I am condoning GoodDay's behaviour regarding his rude comment about you on my talkpage. It's just that when I see Orwellian tactics being employed at Wikipedia against anyone (no matter their history) I get annoyed. I just hate to see anyone getting ganged up on.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't think that of you Jeanne. I have never doubted your integrity - ever. GoodDay knows exactly what he's doing (in this instance). It's one of his methods, and it's wrong. As I said; what he did was against both the letter and the spirit of his topic ban. He should be prevented from employing that tactic again. Daicaregos (talk) 12:57, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Welsh

• Thank you! Dai for the prompt (3 mins.) translation. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Croeso! :) Daicaregos (talk) 12:36, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

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Sorry, it is not Brain's bitter. Would appreciate your input on an edit on England and Wales please 10:59, July 9, 2012‎ Ghmyrtle (talk | contribs)‎ . . (8,224 bytes) (-6)‎ . . (Undid revision 501379075 by Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk)- previous wording was better) Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:25, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Iechyd da! Daicaregos (talk) 14:32, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

You have earned it. And now, do you remember my Norwegian the other day?

Well he has just replied to me with: Diolch am hynny! Yr wyf yn sychedig.

Can you help?

-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:13, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

It means: "Thanks for that! I am thirsty." You should try Google translate. It's quite effective for conveying the meaning. Though it's grammar is often imperfect and very formal. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 07:55, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Excellent. I am glad it wasn't rude. I shall take your advice and try it. All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:03, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

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Owen Glendower

Hi Dai, before I start a proper discussion at talk:Owain Glyndŵr, just wondering what your personal objection was to my including the anglicised form of Glyndŵr's name in the lead? Cheers, — JonC^ॐ 18:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

As you identified in your edit summary ("add Owen Glendower to lead, how he's been traditionally known in English until recently"), Owen Glendower is how he used to be known incorrectly in English, but is not now. Daicaregos (talk) 18:35, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, it's not a matter of correctness and incorrectness – different languages have different names for things, a la Germany for Deutschland, etc. He is generally known as Owain Glyndŵr in English too nowadays, though, although "Owen Glendower" still has some 5,000 hits in Google Books from 2000 onwards, so it's still in use. Per MOS:BOLDSYN I think Owen Glendower should be mentioned and bolded as a synonym. — JonC^ॐ 18:50, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Owen Glendower is his traditional and best known name in English. Live with it.

A quick note to JonC:

Dai here is a Welsh nationalist fanatic; you won't see reasonable behaviour from this guy.

99.237.226.35 (talk) 07:17, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Even quicker note to JonC: Dai here is a fair and balanced editor who happens to support Welsh topics; you won't see unreasonable mindless trolling from this guy. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:29, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Countries of the United Kingdom

Su'mae Dai,

I'm a little confused by this edit. I think either you misunderstood mine, or I'm misunderstanding yours. My point was that it's very common to refer to England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales as countries. I don't think the current wording reflects this, which is why I changed it. garik (talk) 00:38, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from ... but. I was looking at the phrase as a whole, as that is the article title. I agree that England, Scotland, and Wales are frequently described as countries (Northern Ireland not so much), but they are very rarely described as 'Countries of the United Kingdom'. Daicaregos (talk) 06:38, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Fair point. garik (talk) 21:09, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

HI Dai

Well I've just traded two months of beach, swimming in the warm azure sea and dancing under the stars for the pathetic battleground for kiddies that Wikipedia has become. How are you?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:39, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Doesn't sound a good trade to me! Busy, busy, busy ... but pleased to see you back Jeanne. Daicaregos (talk) 12:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll be concentrating solely on Northern Ireland related articles from now on as I've given up working on historical bios.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Steering clear of controversy, then. Haha. Daicaregos (talk) 13:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Ironically, I feel I'm on safer ground in Northern Ireland than amongst the dead medieval noblewomen. At least nobody questions my sources on Troubles articles nor am I accused of "tainting the project".--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Nice. Don't you have an extensive library to use as references now? Daicaregos (talk) 14:10, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Nor do I have unlimited access to a public library seeing as I live on Mount Etna!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:17, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I can see that the Troubles would be safer ground than a live volcano. Close call though. Daicaregos (talk)

LOL.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:37, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

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Requested move for Ireland

• (Discuss) Should Republic of Ireland be moved to Ireland? Kauffner (talk) 15:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Mary Quant Welsh?

How can someone who is born in England, raised in England, educated in England and was influenced by the then London scene be described as Welsh? If Tom Jones' parents were discovered to be English would he become English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.203.128.141 (talk) 20:38, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Best ask the BBC, rather than me. However, you may be interested to know that, according to his Wikipedia article, three of Tom Jones' grandparents were English. But reliable sources (such as the BBC) say he is Welsh, so that's what his article says. Daicaregos (talk) 21:55, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I was living in the US at the height of Jones' popularity and there he was always, without exception, described as Welsh.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:54, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I think it would be worth finding a better source than the one we're using though. The BBC article does say she's Welsh, but in a somewhat ambiguous context, in which it could be interpreted to mean "of Welsh ancestry" (as in Kylie's case). garik (talk) 13:48, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

"The British fashion icon, Mary Quant, creator of the Biba image in the 1960s, is perhaps the most recognisably beauty-orientated Welsh woman." is quite explicit and unambiguous. The piece does not refer to Kylie as Welsh. It says "... Kylie Minogue - whose mother is from Wales ... ", which is completely different. Neither is open to interpretation. Daicaregos (talk) 15:03, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I disagree. Calling someone "a Welsh woman" can in fact be quite ambiguous. As a Welshman living in America, for example, I've learnt to assume that "my wife's Welsh" means "my wife has a significant amount of Welsh ancestry a few generations back." And in the context of an article discussing "Welsh beauty" being "in the genes", it would be entirely reasonable to interpret "Welsh" as meaning "of Welsh heritage". Indeed, the article notes that 'Brain ... believes the Welsh gene pool has elements which can help women with a Welsh heritage in the beauty stakes. "In Welsh women, I suspect that it is something to do with their overall shape – the symmetry of their facial features is very regular."' Clearly he's talking about heritage. I might add that the article also describes Nell Gwyn as Welsh, when all we know is that she had a Welsh surname (and that a very unreliable contemporary said that her father was from Wales). This is not a terribly reliable source, reliable though the BBC is often assumed to be. I'm not saying that Mary Quant isn't Welsh (in fact I think she is), but we need a better source than this bit of journalistic fluff. If we could find something like an interview with her, that would be ideal. garik (talk) 15:28, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Pending that, there are other so-so sources we can add. For example: [1] and [2] and [3]. garik (talk) 15:37, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

(The danger of these more recent sources, of course, is described here.) garik (talk) 15:49, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

No reason it couldn't be referred to the reliable sources noticeboard if there is any doubt. Your latest sources could go with it too (good finds, by the way). Daicaregos (talk) 15:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, we'll see if anyone disputes it further. If so, we can take the sources there. garik (talk) 15:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

The phrase ".. is perhaps the most recognisably beauty-orientated Welsh woman" seems pretty explicit and unambiguous to me, regardless of whatever one may have "learned" in America, or anywhere else. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:05, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Iechyd da!

Sh'w mae Dai, Six Nations Championship I have made the revision this morning which, let us hope is the version that will satisfy all involved and all concerned that we are always both concise and accurate. Iechyd da! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 08:59, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Sh'w mae Gareth, nice to hear from you again. I've raised the point on the article talk page here. Hwyl. Daicaregos (talk) 16:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

GDP

I wish I hadn't made my original comment on it. I spent bloody ages searching for sources and wasted a good part of my night. I'll think things through the next time I make a comment lol. Jonty Monty (talk) 21:44, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to my world :) Strange situation, isn't it? They talk about GDP, but don't seem to give the actual figures. Just the period change. Someone must know what's going on. But it looks like it's not either of us. Cheers for now. Daicaregos (talk) 07:44, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Helo Daicaregos

Thank you for your literature it's both informative and provocative, I will be reading all of your articles (I hope you are proud of them), have you always been a keen writer? (TicktonMN (talk) 14:59, 9 December 2012 (UTC)) I hope this isn't out of place but I have read most things printed here and on other pages and I did start to question my own welsh-ality p.s I consider myself to be welsh. however without being accused of any social engineering I found myself after reading historical accounts trying to identify with a person predating religion to try and imagine a culture that I could be apart of and obviously it's well known to be pagan in entirety. Then I remembered I was walking through the market not just two days ago and with a friend (who is'nt welsh) I was trying to explain what it meant to me to be welsh. On the market (luckily) was a man selling "love spoons", we asked the vender what was the significance of spoons and he claimed that it began in the 16th century, the spoon being carved by the male and given to a female in a ritual before they married and gave off spring. Maybe in a ceremony involving the families and other members of their community. I thought this was important in the run of things in my own concept of welsh and an important apart in discussing culture.TicktonMN (talk) 16:54, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi TicktonMN, Thanks for getting in touch, and for your kind words. To answer your questions, I am proud of some articles. In particular: Parc Cwm long cairn, its published research is a fascinating paradigm-shift, virtually unknown to any but those in academic circles. I really should have taken to it to Wikipedia's Featured article candidates, but never got around to it. Improving Wales to the level of Good Article, in collaboration with User:FruitMonkey, was very important to me. Miami Showband killings (I haven't updated my page recently) is another collaberation of which I'm proud, this time with User:Jeanne boleyn. After Jeanne wrote most of the article, I helped her improve it, by copy editing and referencing, to Good Article standard too. Not a subject in which I would normally have an interest in editing, but important to tell the (harrowing) story. Lastly, I am proud of Governing bodies of sports in Wales, together with creating the articles for dozens of those bodies, as it was such an epic, rather than their quality. It's probably out of date by now.

I don't feel that confident writing, preferring to edit (correct) the work of others ... far easier to criticise than to create.

I don't envy you trying to explain what it means to be Welsh, to a foreigner. I am convinced that those Neolithic tomb builders are our direct ancestors. That those Bronze and Iron ages were a change of technologies, rather than peoples.

Anyway, welcome to Wikipedia. If I can be of any help to you at all ... just ask. Cheers for now, Daicaregos (talk) 23:38, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok, well I don't have much to grasp with on wikipedia to offer you words for edit but thanks for the reassurance. There exists a story of a lady of the hill that I was told a long time ago, but it would be a fiction rather than factual article. My knowledge on it is a bit vague but I'm visiting some friends in that neck of the woods soon and will find out the different accounts and may need some help with the technical aspect of writing it for fun. cheers TicktonMN (talk) 09:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Fiction and mythology certainly have a place as topics on Wikipedia, but it can't have been written by you. All articles (and their content) must be referenced to a reliable source that has discussed the topic first - but, be careful not to plagiarise the source. The help-links provided by Gareth Griffith-Jones on your talk page will be very useful. One of the best pieces of advice I could give is to direct you to Wikipedia:Be bold. Editors will not mind that you make mistakes when you begin editing. No-one will expect you to know everything and there are many experienced editors here who will be happy to point you in the right direction, when you need it. Take a look at what other editors do, by either looking at an article that interests you and checking its history (click on the 'history' tab at the top of the article), or look at the contributions of an experienced editor. So have fun, and feel free to ask if you need a hand. Daicaregos (talk) 11:52, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok; thanks TicktonMN (talk) 12:49, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Well I looked at the history tab and inspected some articles, Wikipedia here is definitely a useful source of information. TicktonMN (talk) 13:41, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Did anything inspire you to improve an article? By the way, I took the liberty of indenting your responses here. Indents (using colons at the beginning of a paragraph) allows talk page readers to follow a conversation between different editors. Daicaregos (talk) 14:38, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes! In fact it did I had made the all too frequent mistake of copy and pasting on an article I had improved from a BBC website, oh well. Following on from that Dai, I've spotted a few articles on migratory birds.I have some knowledge on them, but I'll be reading up my stuff before putting any more input in, and maybe list them somewhere.TicktonMN (talk) 16:53, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Great. Good chance articles on those birds already exist, so best to check first. Use the search facility, or Google it - Wiki articles tend to be near the top of search results. Don't worry if an article is already there, nearly all articles can be improved somehow. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 17:16, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi dai you can call me matt or matthew instead of ticktonmn, my other nickname is tuki. just saying. Thankyou for all your help; but I'll probably have to start simple I saw a magpie the other day and told someone on the phone it was a Jay, LOL TicktonMN (talk) 20:45, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Hiya Matthew, what do think of it so far? Any problems (e.g. formatting reference citations, etc.) I could help with? Just let me know. If I'm not around, I'm sure my WP:TPSs would be willing and able to help. Daicaregos (talk) 13:21, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Well yep, it's giving me itchey feet, to cite a reference is it (Author, Year , Title, Page, ISBN?)TicktonMN (talk) 20:06, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

If it's a book yes, pretty much. You could use this (cut'n paste, then fill each parameter where it has a 'x'): <ref name=”x”>{{cite book| title=x |url=x |author=x |authorlink=x |date=x |editor=x |pages=x |isbn=x |year=x |accessdate=x}}</ref>. NB authorlink is useful only if the author has a Wikipedia article. If not, delete the section. To discover how to use the parameters, see Wikipedia:Citation templates. As always, any problems ... just ask. Enjoy! Daicaregos (talk) 21:09, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

This user is a WikiChef.

Haha. Quite possibly. Daicaregos (talk) 23:06, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Well who was it. Brilliant!! It describes you perfectly.TicktonMN (talk) 09:19, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Christmas!

Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – is wishing you the season's greetings.
Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas,
Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus,
or the Saturnalia,
this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.

• Diolch yn fawr iawn Dai –
   – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 10:40, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Croeso :) Daicaregos (talk) 10:47, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Hyderaf eich bod wedi cael Nadolig da, Dai. Mae'r datgeliadau am Margaret Thatcher a'r Falklands, yn enwedig yr apêl olaf-ffos gan Ronald Reagan i Margaret Thatcher i roi'r gorau i'r ymgyrch i ail-sefyll y Falklands, yn newyddion anhygoel ... Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard13:44, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Roedd Nadolig gwych (ond dawel), diolch. Does dim byd am yr hen wrach rhoi syndod i fi. Dymuniadau gorau y tymor i ti Gareth. Rwy'n edrych ymlaen at y flwyddyn newydd, nawr. Gobeithio mae popeth yn iawn gyda ti. Pob hwyl. Daicaregos (talk) 15:23, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Nadolig wedi bod yn dawel i mi hefyd. Diolch i chi, Dai - yr wyf yn gwybod yn dda beth ydych yn ei olygu gyda "The Lady Haearn"! Yn sicr bydd y flwyddyn nesaf yn well na 2012? Hmmm ... byddwn yn rhaid i chi wylio allan am ddiwrnod da ... –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 16:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

"byddwn yn rhaid i chi wylio allan am ddiwrnod da" hahaha! Mae'n wir. Mae ofn arnaf, fydd dim byd da yn dod o hyn, yn anfodus. O wel, Daicaregos (talk) 16:29, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Re:Wales map

I don't think the addition of the map is controversial, any more than updating the census information was controversial. I really see no way in which the former map is superior to the new map. If you want to revert my edit then I'll leave it at that, but I'm not going to self-revert back to an inferior map. -- Hazhk ^{Talk to me} 15:23, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Nadolig hapus!!

Martinevans123^{Santas Grotto} wishes you and yours

"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"

---

May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace ....

Wel, diolch o galon, Martin. A dymuniadau gorau i ti hefyd. Ta, Daicaregos (talk) 20:04, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Jimmy Cagney wannabe

Just saw that you were called a punk over a Welsh film being called a Welsh film. I probably shouldn't have commented there but it hit a funnybone to think that a Jimmy Cagney wannabe would get upset over a Welsh film. Lol. Jonty Monty (talk) 12:47, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

You should see some of the edit summaries on Hedd Wyn. Punk (whatever it means) is relatively friendly. Anyway, it ended up here. Thanks for leaving the note here. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 13:07, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Glad to see he got what he deserved. Going off topic a little. I get the impression you are a proud Welshman. You should take a look at the Facebook page 'Yes to an Independent Scotland'. I think everyone should take a peek to see all the lies this UK government can tell. When I said off topic I really meant way off topic. Lol. Jonty Monty (talk) 13:20, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Dai, if you think it's wildly off topic I won't mind if you delete my recommendation. :) Jonty Monty (talk) 13:32, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

No worries Jonty. Wonder what it is they're scared of, that they can't be truthful? Daicaregos (talk) 17:14, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

They are afraid of Scottish independence and what it will mean to them. No more draining of Scottish resources for their own benefit.. The fact that the media lie on their behalf is a bonus for them. Idiots and traitors like Joanne Lamont doing the Tory dirty work for them (for those who don't know, she's Scottish Labour leader). She makes Labour here a laughing stock. 2014, won't be long till we can tell them all to f**** off. Merry Christmas Dai. :) Jonty Monty (talk) 21:08, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Now, that will be on my wish list for Santa next year. Merry Christmas Jonty. Daicaregos (talk) 11:39, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Season's tidings!

To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:42, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks. Happy holidays, however you celebrate! Daicaregos (talk) 16:57, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Merry Christmas, Dai!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:50, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Jeanne. Have a lovely time. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 16:57, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Have as peaceful a Christmas as you can (or want). Take care FruitMonkey (talk) 21:13, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Merry Christmas/Nadolig Llawen :) Daicaregos (talk) 11:23, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Deputy First Minister for Wales

In the previous RM, you supported Deputy First Minister (Wales) & First Minister (Wales), which was Ghmyrtle's proposal. Why the change? GoodDay (talk) 23:09, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

The question posed was "what would be wrong with Deputy First Minister (Wales)". I answered "Nothing". Please explain what you think has changed from my previous stance. Daicaregos (talk) 23:30, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Your "What's the point" question, seem to suggested your oposition. I apologies if I've made an error in reading your post as being opposition. GoodDay (talk) 23:35, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

That isn't what you said in your first post – which I answered. I am opposed to a change either for the sake of change, or for some kind of spurious consistency. I asked “what's the point” twice at the article talk page. You noted here that I asked the question. You are yet to answer it. WHAT IS THE POINT OF MOVING THIS PAGE? Please tell me. I would like to know the reason, from your point of view. Don't ask any other question. Don't answer any other question. Just tell me WHAT IS THE POINT OF MOVING THIS PAGE? Daicaregos (talk) 23:59, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

To line it up with the First Minister article, whatever it's at. It's not an over necessity, but having them different, strikes me as odd. GoodDay (talk) 00:04, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Re:Wales map

It's still there for me. If it isn't showing up for you you probably need to clear your browser cache. Alphathon /'æɫ.fə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 19:28, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Daicaregos (talk) 20:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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WP Wales in the Signpost

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Lady Park Wood National Nature Reserve

Good morning Dai,
Did you watch this today?
Any thoughts on improving this article? Please reply there. Cheers!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 08:56, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Bore da Gareth. Nice to hear from you. I didn't see the programme, I'm afraid. I've been trying to avoid news and magazine programmes these last few days, assuming they would not contain any actual news. The BBC is, of course, considered a reliable source (excluding their drivel about the 'royal' family). Although I may be wrong, I don't think their programmes count. BBCiPlayer is only available for a limited time (seven days?), whereas the point of citing sources is that a reader may be able to check it. Once iPlayer has dropped the show, that would not be possible. I found this though, which says “... Lady Wood Park … has been deliberately unmanaged since 1945.” Does that help? Daicaregos (talk) 13:35, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes it does. Thank you for that link, Dai, and for confirming what I had thought regarding BBC programmes.
Couldn't agree more with your comments regarding current "news" broadcasts  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 17:26, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Croeso Gareth. These are difficult times for democrats and patriots. Especially coming so soon after the Jubilympics. I'm hoping that, one day, the British public will begin to use their own brains and not rely on the media to do their brainwashing for them who, to paraphrase Monty Python, seem to be controlled by just about everyone with a vested interest in the status quo, as far as I can tell. Anyway, I'm always happy to help if I can, even for things you may consider trivial. Please don't hesitate to ask. Pob hwyl, Daicaregos (talk) 20:17, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

"Diolch yn fawr!"  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 09:38, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Miami Showband killings

Dai, look at what is going on over at Miami Showband killings. Lots of text has been removed and according to one editor, it appears the page contains lots of POV, bad grammar, and cruft. Read what this certain editor said on the talk page. I'm thinking of quitting Wikipedia for good.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:09, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Hiya Jeanne, welcome back!!! Thanks for the heads-up. Daicaregos (talk) 07:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Dai for your prompt assistance. Would be a pity to see our hard work on that article ripped assunder.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:40, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Glad you told me. Thanks. A GA article should mean something, and wholesale changes shouldn't be made without consensus. Any editor disagreeing with a GA article so strongly (as making such wholesale changes indicated), should instead nominate it for reassessment. Has that editor been blocked for violating their topic ban? I imagine such crass edits were the reason for their topic ban in the first place. Glad you're back Jeanne. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 16:32, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Gwen John.jpg)

Thanks for uploading File:Gwen John.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Werieth (talk) 23:36, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

The image I uploaded has been in use on the article since February 2011. Someone seems to have been playing about - on the Gwen John article and on the File:Gwen John.jpg. A portrait of was uploaded to the Gwen John image file, which turns out to be of another person, not the artist. It has since been reverted and the original image restored to the article page. Please see: Talk:Gwen_John#Portrait_image. Do you require me to remove your Orphaned non-free media tag from the image file, or would you prefer to do that yourself? Please let me know. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 08:20, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Ive gone ahead and removed the tag, its just housekeeping quite often stuff like that happens, its not a big deal. Werieth (talk) 10:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Much appreciated. Cheers for now, Daicaregos (talk) 11:01, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Cardiff WikiMeet

Hi Dai and bore da! Long time no see! I mention a Cariff Meetup here. It would be good to meet up again. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 09:13, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Bore da Llywelyn2000! Dyna syniad da. We can arrange where and when nearer the date. Rwy'n edrych ymlaen at gwrdd â chi eto. Hwyl. Daicaregos (talk) 10:39, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

6.30 Friday 1st Nov at Future Inns, after the Conference: I placed the info on Project Wales. If you can't make it, Dai I could meet you this Wednesday morning to discuss a few things and another Hackathon? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 17:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Lovely lady

Thank you Dai for your thanks! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

She certainly is. Thank you for your thanks for ... ah, probably best to stop there. Pob hwyl Gareth! Daicaregos (talk) 08:46, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Wales Coast Path Project

As a member of WikiProject Wales, WikiProject Cardiff or an user who has contributed to Welsh articles we invite you to contribute to a new project, Living Paths!: articles, images, translations... Lonely Planet rated the coast of Wales "the best region on Earth" in 2012, yet there is a very low number of articles on the history and culture of places along the Coastal Path. This promises to be an exciting project as it gathers momentum with many Users joining in across the world.

If you are interested in training groups in Wales, please leave a message on the Talk Page. Let's make this WikiProject, like the path itself, the best on earth! And let's put Wales back on the map!

Diolch Dai!

Llywelyn2000 (talk) 11:09, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Cyfarchion

Christmas dinner

Machinima of Santa Claus's reindeer filmed in Second life

Imploring that Dai enjoys a sumptuous Christmas holiday and a naughty New Year! First play this → → →

Now play this!
I dare you to tell me that you did not smile.

Iechyd da!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:18, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Diolch yn fawr Gareth 12:04, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Nadolig hapus

Martinevans123^{Santas Grotto} wishes you and yours

"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"

---

May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace ....

Blyddyn newydd fantatstig i ti!

Diolch gyfaill! Ymlaen, i'r gad! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 15:34, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Wrth gwrs, ymlaen ac i'r gad (os oes amser 'da ni) ;) Daicaregos (talk) 15:43, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

National members of the IGF

Hi Yachty4000, I have responded at Template talk:National members of the International Golf Federation. Please re-engage. Daicaregos (talk) 20:22, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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Talk:Wales#Revision 593752527

I'd appreciate feedback from yourself on the edit I made at Wales. Regards, Rob (talk | contribs) 21:05, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I have responded on Talk:Wales. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 22:50, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Don't edit my comments again

If at any stage you remove part of my comments again with asking me first, I will immediately get an admin involved: a good uninvolved one, not one you or I may know. It's not all about the support you have, it's about rules there are. I chose to remove my section-heading and I gave a clear reason for it - don't you ever do something like that to my comments again. Apart from anything, it's simply against the rules. If you want to make changes to my comments then you are obliged to contact me see if I will do it. You know me well enough from your early days on Wikipedia (when I used to help you out), and you will remember that getting me wound up may indeed get you so far, but it won't change the rules of Wikipedia. Matt Lewis (talk) 19:12, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Matt, great to hear from you after so long. You will have seen that I reinserted the section heading you posted to the talk page originally. If you make a mistake, you are welcome to strike it through, but it should not be deleted. I have not removed any of your comments, which would have been rude (and against Talk page guidelines. I note you removed mine, without asking me first. Please don't. Sadly, our recollections of my early days here are entirely dissimilar, but mine are grounded in reality. Should you decide to waste an admin's time with this, go right ahead. But beware of WP:PETARD. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 08:30, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Matt was completely within his rights to change his mind about the section heading and remove it here. Reinserting it against his expressed wishes here and here, apparently with the sole purpose of provoking him, is unnecessary and uncivil. "To avoid disputes it is best to discuss a heading change with the editor who started the thread, if possible, when a change is likely to be controversial. It can also sometimes be appropriate to merge entire sections under one heading..." I suggest you self-revert your last edit. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:59, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

You will have noted that I did not change Matt's talk page heading, I reinstated it. To assume I did that “apparently with the sole purpose of provoking him, is unnecessary and uncivil.” is against WP:AGF and I ask you to strike that statement. I reinstated the heading because his rant was not in answer to your post in the thread above, if it was relevant to anything at all. You will also note, from your link, that no one, including the original poster, "owns" a talk page discussion or its heading. (my emphasis). Nevertheless, to avoid further dispute, I am prepared to preserve Matt's heading as a subheading, as suggested in that guideline, and will do that now. Daicaregos (talk) 10:41, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

How do you think that addresses the issue? "It is generally acceptable to change headings when a better header is appropriate, e.g., one more descriptive of the content of the discussion or the issue discussed, less one-sided, more appropriate for accessibility reasons, etc.". That is presumably why Matt recognised that the header was inappropriate. Why do you think it is appropriate to retain it? Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:51, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Thus: It can also sometimes be appropriate to merge entire sections under one heading (often preserving the later one as a subheading) if their discussions are redundant.. I have deleted none of Matt's posts, nor have I changed them. I reinstated them (now preserved as a subheading), per the guidelines quoted above. Matt's rant cannot have been in answer to your post, as he was not aware of it at the time. The words he used should be shown on the talk page for all to see. As I said above, he is welcome to strike it through if he subsequently considers his words to be ill-advised or inapproprate.

Please do not post here again, without first having struck your unfounded accusation. Daicaregos (talk) 11:16, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

It would have to have been "unfounded" then. Matt was fully permitted to rename his heading to something more appropriate. You have no authority to change it back, nor should you claim any such authority under any rule of Wikipedia. Please don't behave so angrily when people who actually understand the policies are kind enough to gently correct you - being able to admit your error and move onwards without calling people names is a virtue DP 13:33, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi DP, thank you for your views. The accusation was unfounded, because I did not reinstate the heading "with the sole purpose of provoking him". Assuming I did is both incorrect and against WP:AGF. Are you suggesting I called people names? Where was that? If I did, I apologise. I had thought I was virtuous :) Daicaregos (talk) 13:43, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

ANI notice

ANI on you.

I'm sure it's not unexpected. I was half tempted not to do it, but the fact is you haven't really given me any choice. I can't be edit warring over my own comment, I don't want to strike it, and least of all I don't wish to be dictated to like this. Thanks a bunch. Matt Lewis (talk) 23:54, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Cymru am byth Sabu1976 (talk) 10:55, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

England–Wales border

Please don't describe unsourced but uncontentious statements as "nonsense". In many of those cases, the towns and villages were founded as Anglo-Norman settlements; there is no evidence that their unpopulated locations had Welsh names previously. Prestatyn was originally an English village called Preston; Caergwrle was originally an English village called Corley; etc. Those specific examples are referenced from Hywel Wyn Owen's Place-names of Wales. However, I won't revert your change because I haven't yet found a source for the general statement. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:58, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

I refer you to the final sentence here. Daicaregos (talk) 11:17, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Llywelyn the Last → Llywelyn ap Gruffudd. Llywelyn ap Gruffydd → Llywelyn ap Gruffudd

You've been all over my watchlist for the last few day... That's going to keep you busy for a good while! DeCausa (talk) 12:00, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Only around 100 to go on Llywelyn the Last ... then to start on ap Gruffydd :)

I think it should say something about the alternative spellings in the article, but I'm not sure what yet. Any suggestions? Daicaregos (talk) 12:07, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

I suppose "ap Gruffydd" should be mentioned as one of thd alternates. Is there an explanation for the two spellings? Griffith (name) seems to say that Gruffydd is and midle/modern Welsh and Gruffudd an early form. DeCausa (talk) 19:41, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

No explanation I've seen, other than the one you mention. I'll be bold, though hopefully it will be improved. Daicaregos (talk) 16:56, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

List of national anthems

@SchroCat: I think the Welsh national anthem belongs on a List of national anthems; you don't. It doesn't mean that saying so on the article talk page is tendentious or disruptive. Editors sometimes disagree with each other, but your posts are becoming increasingly antagonistic. Please stop. Daicaregos (talk) 12:59, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Titles and quote marks

Hi Dai, re: your edits at Tom Jones, quotes *are* used for song titles, so I've undone most of them. However, your edits helped me find some text that had been mangled for a long time, so they weren't all bad. Graham87 06:33, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Ah. That was news to me. Thanks for taking the trouble to explain here (and to correct my errors). Best, Daicaregos (talk) 08:30, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Carol Vorderman

Good morning and Happy New Year! I noticed you reverted my edit, adding Category:English women writers to Carol Vorderman, with the edit summary that she is Welsh/Dutch. I added that cat because one of CV's existing cats is Category:English writers; does that need changing? --Rosiestep (talk) 15:31, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Rosiestep:. Nice to hear from you. Happy New Year to you too. Yes, they do need changing. I'll leave a note on the Talk page. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 10:52, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

British nationality

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Infobox nationality of people from the UK and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

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Thank you. I have commented there. Daicaregos (talk) 13:07, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration case request declined

You were named in a case request Infobox_nationality_of_people_from_the_UK which was declined by the Arbitration Committee. The committee concluded that one issue in the case was content, which is outside the remit of the committee, and the remaining behavioral issues should be handled by the usual processes. The arbitrators comments can be found at the Permalink to arbitrators decisions For the arbitration Committee --S Philbrick(Talk) 20:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Good decision. Thanks for letting me know. Daicaregos (talk) 13:06, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Cardiff Meetup 4

Siwmae Dai, would you be interested in this? Pob hwyl, Ham II (talk) 20:15, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Heia Ham II, wi'n iawn diolch. Mae'n debygol iawn. Diolch am y gwahoddiad personol. Gobeithio fe wela ti fan 'na. Hwyl fawr. (English: probably) Daicaregos (talk) 14:28, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Northern Ireland

Thought I let you know. You accidently deleted the category United Kingdom from the Northern Ireland article, when you restored the category Northern Europe. -- GoodDay (talk) 14:52, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

In addition to removing Category:United Kingdom, my edit reinstated two categories – Category:Northern Europe and Category:Western Europe – which had been removed without discussion. Category:Northern Ireland is a sub-category of Category:United Kingdom, so Category:United Kingdom is actually redundant. Category:United Kingdom was removed from the article by User:Vegaswikian on 13 August 2013 for that reason (edit summary “Drop included category”). No editor seems to have expressed concern at its absence until its re-appearance two days ago. However well-intentioned your motives (AGF, of course), your attempt to “try to avoid British & Irish articles until May 21, 2015” seems to have failed. I should be surprised that you are unable to keep your word (per our little chat here), but it comes as no surprise at all. God help us all after 21 May. Daicaregos (talk) 14:40, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

The thing is that it wasn't by accident, was it? Please don't remove logical categories based on political partisanship. Quis separabit? 22:36, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Have we met? Daicaregos (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Infobox country UK

Daicaregos it's a wrapper. All it does is automatically fills in a number of fields in template:Infobox country that are the same across all four countries, however even these can be overridden at each article if the editors want. The purpose is not to centralise discussions or force editors across all four articles to agree. Consistency is preferable but it should not be forced. Rob984 (talk) 14:14, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Please just revert the addition at each article if you have reason to object. Rob984 (talk) 14:19, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

To clarify, any field from template:Infobox country can work so long as it is added to the template first. There's no reason why any field shouldn't be allowed to be added if there is a possibility of it being used. I did not create the wrapper to restrict the use of fields in template:Infobox country, and I would appreciate if you would not do that. Rob984 (talk) 14:44, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Well Dai...

I didn't think you made articles of the same nature as this one! Anyway, this is a fond "hello" from someone you were acquainted with...associated with...allied with...er, whatever, from years ago. About 4-5 by my reckoning. And God damn, why do you sneaky Welsh make such good cheddar? I just can't bring myself to buy the English kind any more! Toodle-pip, keep up the good work. --35 Doses of Uranium (talk) 20:28, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Aw shucks ... thank you @35 Doses of Uranium:. I do try to do different things here and every now and again I have a splurge. Inspiration can come from anywhere. I would be interested to learn what it was we worked on together. You can email me (using the link on the left, under 'tools'), if you have the time. Hope we can work together again. Nice to make your reaquaintance. btw don't watch the birdie, just say caws. All the best, Daicaregos (talk) 07:55, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I'll give you a bell sometime then! --35 Doses of Uranium (talk) 12:29, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I'd like that. 'Til then, Daicaregos (talk) 17:30, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Wales Green Party Deletion Reveiw

Hi Daicaregos, I have created a deletion review for the Wales Green Party page.

Deletion review for Wales Green Party

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wales Green Party. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Thanks Jimmy3d0 (talk) 20:05, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Hiya Jimmy. Thanks for letting me know. Good luck. Daicaregos (talk) 21:11, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

pls see

pls see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Templates#Suggestion: Add infrastructure to the template-- Moxy (talk) 09:29, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Help needed

A friend needs some help - he is on a project on birds on the welsh wikipedia but is not a native speaker. Link here. I'll link this comment so he can expand on what he needs. ----Snowded ^TALK 18:59, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Sh'w mae @Snowded:, I added a caption to the recently added sound file here. I think that was what was wanted. Please let me know if it was something else. Hwyl, Daicaregos (talk) 11:27, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Sh'w mae @Snowded:, I've looked back several times at your friend's contributions on Wicipedia, but he only seems to have made two. Is his project over, or have I misunderstood? Daicaregos (talk) 11:19, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

I'll check, he can flit around between projects :-) ----Snowded ^TALK 11:21, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Daicaregos (talk) 11:23, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

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Flagicons / Joe Calzaghe / boxing

Greetings. We've definitely got off to the wrong start—I've accused you of being the first to reintroduce national flagicons to the Calzaghe article (only partially true; you weren't the first), and you've accused me of canvassing (of which, from what I can tell, only the neutrality policy was crossed). No worries. We've got that out of the way, and I would much prefer to collaborate on the matter than bicker over it (it's all I've ever tried to do at WikiProject Boxing, but nobody ever bothers to post there or try for a consensus). I'm glad that you at least have an opinion on the flags thing, because I've only managed to get fleeting discussion for my other unrelated RfC, and not many editors seem to give a damn about settling it.

Nonetheless, how do we balance things out regarding the flagicons debate? We obviously need more editors to weigh in, but I have no desire to be accused of canvassing again. I contacted User:Drmies because he was the only editor whom I had seen have an opinion on flagicons—for all I know, despite my use of a quote of his, he could've been for them in this case, or not had an opinion at all. You could try putting in an RfC at WikiProject Boxing, but I'm almost certain that it'll garner insufficient responses to solve anything. Likewise, User:GoodDay hasn't had any response to his RfC. Both you and I appear to be steadfast on where we stand, so where to now? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:23, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to post here. I too far prefer to work collaboratively and I'm sure we can. Let's draw a line and start afresh. I find flagicons useful, and on that basis assume others would too, although I accept not everyone does. If it were shown to be against MOS, then that would be that. Indeed I requested User:Drmies to quote the relevant MOS guideline, as they had referred to MOS:FLAG. I have read the page but can't find anything to say they shouldn't be used with locations.

I would like to point out that from its creation in 2007 until November 2014, the pro boxing record had used national flag icons, and had been stable. The edit changing the table to sovereign state flag icons had no edit summary, and no-one noticed... until I re-instated the national flag icons a couple of months ago. Then a couple of IPs seemed to dislike it, for different reasons apparently, but wouldn't be tempted to discuss outside of edit summaries, if at all. What can you do?

As for encouraging other editor involvement, an actual RfC could be an option (See: WP:RFC) rather than posting at Wikiprojects, most of which appear to be dead, or dying. Could be worth a try. I've seen them work before. Daicaregos (talk) 17:52, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

RfC

You were in a discussion which is relevant to a RfC I started see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing#RfC: Flag icons in professional boxing record tables 92.237.211.110 (talk) 05:19, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I have responded there. Daicaregos (talk) 15:49, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

File:Xmas Ornament.jpg

To You and Yours!
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:39, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Bill. Happy holidays to you too. Daicaregos (talk) 09:36, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

And now for 2016

A view of Lake Bondhus in Norway, and in the background of the Bondhus Glacier, part of the Folgefonna Glacier. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:37, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Diolch Gareth. Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda i ti hefyd. Thanks my friend. Hope you are enjoying the holidays. Daicaregos (talk) 10:55, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Miami Showband

Well Dai I see our painstaking effort on theis page is being unravelled. Do you know how to revert it to its stable version prior to 15 November 2105? Thank you. I left a few comments on its talk page to that effect.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:44, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Hiya Jeanne. It is frustrating, I agree. If the changes were encyclopaedic, necessary, well written and the facts composed in an NPOV way I would be more than happy to see it improved. I have the page on my watchlist, but there is only so much one editor can do. I'm glad you have returned. I hope you decide to stay. Merry Christmas :) Daicaregos (talk) 11:17, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Prince Edward Island infobox

Howdy, just wanted ya to know. That change you made, makes that infobox's showing of the topic's french version name inconsistent with the other Canadian provincial infoboxes showing of their french version names. Perhaps, you can make the same changes to the others. GoodDay (talk) 17:56, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

An anon IP made the change only a few hours previously. My edit returned the article to the version that had been stable since we discused the subject some time ago. I don't recall you noting any 'inconsistency' previously. Why are you concerned now ... and why does it matter if they are different? Daicaregos (talk) 12:25, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm mererly suggesting that they either all be in small print or regular print. You're free to decide for yourself, if they should have size consistency or not. GoodDay (talk) 19:04, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

E/S/W/NI/UK

Greetings again. I seem to remember that you were in favour of having "[City], Wales", "[City], England", etc., whilst ditching the "[Country], UK" suffix. Am I correct? Either way, I've gone that route with the MOS ("Cardiff, Wales" with no UK suffix), but User:Slickmoves has once again chimed in with this reasoning in which he maintains that the UK is equivalent to the US, and should be tacked on. Admittedly I once thought so as well, but now I do not. I see no reason for the UK suffix, especially when the 'strong national ties' issue will always exist with many British boxers choosing to "fight for" their own countries. Is there any kind of guideline on WP towards which I could point him, or a better-worded reasoning to illustrate the point? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 00:56, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Hiya @Mac Dreamstate:, sorry not to have replied sooner, I've been busy. You are right. I favour "[City], [Country]". Adding UK after the country is redundant. We should reflect the venue's naming at its article e.g. “The National Ice Centre (NIC) is located in Nottingham, England.” WikiProject UK geography/Guide has “The top level frame of reference is the country within the UK” (see WP:UKNOWGOV), which is a naming convention; its logical extension is to describe all UK places in the same way. I am not aware of anything specific for tables in MoS. If any TPSs know of anything appropriate, please say. If the Boxing MoS uses similar descriptions, that will be that. By the way, WP:ICON cautions: “Do not repurpose icons beyond their legitimate scope - Icons can represent a specific entity and should not be repurposed to represent something else”. So, The appropriate flag icon for the Nottingham Arena, Nottingham, England is the English flag. Daicaregos (talk) 12:37, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm only half with you there, heh. Whilst I'm on board with "[City], [Country]", I still think the UK flag should be used for E/S/W/NI if flags are to remain. That leaves you, User:GoodDay and myself all on different fences, but there's WP for ya. ;-) Mac Dreamstate (talk) 17:00, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

I think it's best that Mac D opens up a Rfc on this topic, at WP:BOXING. You & I, never have & never will agree on this E/S/W/NI/UK topic. So it's best we allow others to make the choice :) GoodDay (talk) 17:59, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Yep, it looks like an Rfc is necessary. GoodDay (talk) 18:14, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

This edit - really GoodDay? You may want to re-read WP:POINT. Daicaregos (talk) 18:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

I already accept (and have accepted for years) that you & I will never agree on whether Wales, England, Scotland & Northern Ireland belong on the same stage with France, USA, Russia, Canada, Japan etc etc. As for WP:POINT? you also may want to read it. Meanwhile, let's have an Rfc on this matter at WP:BOXING. I'm sure the result of that Rfc, will be accepted by both of us. GoodDay (talk) 18:50, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, I'm at a bit of a loss here. Opening up yet another RfC at this point could have the effect of attracting a fresh influx of dissenting viewpoints—a "flies to the dungheap" kinda thing—on the rest of the MOS, which I almost have nailed to perfection. The issue of the UK/E/S/W/NI suffix is a very minor formatting detail which can be ironed out at a later date. Otherwise, by bringing it into view again (and, by extension, flagicons) via an RfC, we run the risk of edits like this or this stalling things, and the last thing I want is any input from the latter editor. I therefore suggest that all three of us leave the sovereign state issue untouched for a while longer, so that the MOS can be left untouched. We can revisit it when the whole thing is closer to being finalised via the ongoing silent consensus.

As for Timothy Bradley's record, I don't want to outright pick sides or make a decision now as to which one it should be—as I said, I partially agree with both of you. Before I overhauled the table, it merely listed "Nottinghamshire" as the top level location, but I'm vehemently against including counties. I've been going around using "[City], [Country]" for a few months now, so it'd be silly to go around adding the "UK" suffix when there is still disagreement. So! Just for Bradley's record, how about we ditch "England" and "UK" completely for now, leaving it as "Nottingham Arena, Nottingham", and revert to how the flags were before. Can we do that? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 22:24, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

I understand your frustration. OK, happy to leave it for now, but flagicons must represent the place referred to in text form and the top level frame of reference should be noted. Please advise when the time comes to revisit. Cheers for now. Daicaregos (talk) 08:42, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Saint David's Day

	Some leeks for you!
	Dydd Gwyl Dewi Sant Hapus! Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:08, 1 March 2016 (UTC) Diolch Gareth. Gŵyl Dewi Sant hapus i ti hefyd (am ddoe). Thanks for the leeks. I was wearing one most of yesterday. Hope you celebrated in style. Daicaregos (talk) 07:49, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Tom Pryce

With all due respect, I don't see a clear consensus for using only Welsh in that talk page discussion at all. I see many users disagreeing with your stance. Note that you as the discussion's initiator should never have made an attempt at closing the discussion in your favor. I will post a request to properly close that discussion. Tvx1 13:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Please respect WP:BRD. The current text has been stable on this WP:FA since 14 January 2011 and was the version used for Today's featured article on 11 June, 2014. Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy (per WP:RS). Reliable sources describe Tom Pryce as Welsh (including those references cited at the end of the first sentence) and that is how he should be described on his article. I have transcluded this discussion to the article talkpage and will reinstate the cited text. Daicaregos (talk) 14:27, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Adam Price

Your page states you are hear to correct some misinformation. However on Adam Price AM for Plaid Cymru page you continue to remove factual information about his controversial business venture Ideoba LTD, which failed in spectacular style after receiving vast sums of public money from the Welsg Assembly. It leads me to beleive you are either Adam Price or a Plaid Cymru member/employee who is trying to bury this factual information. Please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BabsTaf (talk • contribs) 19:56, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

The Wikipedia policy Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons is clear (please click on the link), and relevant here. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. I have no idea if the information you added was true or not (as I am not Adam Price), but I have no way of checking because no references were cited in your edits. You must not add those claims back to the article unless you provide some evidence of them from a reliable source. If you are unsure of how to cite references, this link may help: Wikipedia:Citation templates. By the way, your final edit amending legalisation to legislation was incorrect. Price supports the legalisation of drugs under medical supervision, so the word was already used correctly and in context. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 06:54, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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All the best, Dai, for 2017!

Hello Daicaregos,
Enjoy the Winter Solstice and the Christmas and holiday season.
Thank you for all your good work during 2016 in maintaining, improving and expanding Wikipedia.
All the best for 2017! Cheers, — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  16:31, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Diolch Gareth. Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda i ti.

Thanks Gareth. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you. Daicaregos (talk) 09:37, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:32, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Diolch byt. Nodolig Llawen i chi hefyd, oddi wrth Cymru fach.

Thank you fella. Merry Christmas to you too, from little Wales. Daicaregos (talk) 09:33, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

From Dai to Dai

I see that you removed what I said about the Napoleonic connotations of 1st March : I can not be bothered to enter into an editing war - but the convention is to ask for the references which I have just returned with ... I take it that you are a Nationalist and therefore think that vandalism is a political act ? 2.99.188.131 (talk) 02:22, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Hiya Dai, Thanks for your message. Article talk pages (per WP:Talk page guidelines) are for improving the article, not for expressing personal opinions. I reverted your edit on the St David's Day talk page (per WP:NOTFORUM) because it did not seem to suggest any article improvements and discussed topics of no relevance to the article subject. You are welcome to suggest improvements to the article. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 08:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Mary Quant edits

are you familiar with the Donovan Leitch song - 'Sunny South Kensington'? I am certain of the lyric "Jean-Paul Belmondo and-a Mary Quant got Stoned, to say the least", which clearly refers to drug use. Why are you removing facts as stated?

Don't remember ever having heard it, sorry. You may well be right about the song, I don't know, however, the Wikipedia policy on articles about living people (WP:BLP) is quite explicit: “We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source. Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.” This information may only be added to the article if it has been noted by a reliable source. If it's notable enough to appear in the article someone would have written about it - in a newspaper, a magazine or a book. If you are unsure how to add cited references, let me know (with a link to the piece) and I'll let you know how for future reference, or I can do it for you. Cheers for now, Daicaregos (talk) 14:41, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

I am new to edits on Wikipedia, so I may be at fault. However, I am merely trying to added further pertinent information about the wiki subject matter. Here is the source(s) citation I had added: "Mellow Yellow/Sunny South Kensington 45 rpm single, Mellow Yellow LP album, side 2, track 5". Additionally, here is link to lyrics as published on web:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=sunny+south+kensington+lyrics&spf=1494691671816

you may listen to it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoSURRAuxI0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.228.136.47 (talk) 16:15, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Sure. I do understand, and we all have to start somewhere. So, no problem. But uncited contentious content on biographies has to be removed. Such statements need to be cited (see WP:V). The statement I removed seemed to be your interpretation of the lyrics, which is original research and not permitted. As I say above, If the statement is notable enough to appear in the article someone would have written about it. And that is what to use as a cited reference. I guess this is probably not the answer you were hoping for, so you can either post a note on Talk:Mary Quant, or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk, for other editors' opinions. Or, I am happy to help if I can. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 17:20, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 04:40, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Bill. Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to you. Daicaregos (talk) 11:15, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Heddwch ac ewyllys da

		Compliments of the season Wishing you all the best for 2018 — good health, sufficient wealth, peace and contentment
		Cheers! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 18:45, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Diolch Gareth, Nadolig Llawen i ti hefyd.
Thanks Gareth, Merry Christmas to you too. Daicaregos (talk) 08:26, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Twyn y Gaer: several hillforts in Wales by that name

Hello,

I noticed a while ago that you linked a (very nice, BTW) picture called "Twyn y Gaer Iron Age Hill Fort, situated atop the Gaer mountain, S. Wales" to the Wikipedia article on Mynydd Illtud.

While it's true that there is a hillfort in Mynydd Illtud called Twyn y Gaer, that's not the one your picture illustrates. "Your" Twyn y Gaer is in fact located in the Black Mountains, between the villages of Patrishow (Powys) and Cwmyoy (Monmounthshire) -- something I could verify: the outline of the unusual earthworks design atop Gear mountain are easily recognisable on Google Maps. In fact, based on the hillforts list on "The Megalithic Portal" website, there are at least 5 such forts called "Twyn y Gaer" or "Twyn-y-Gaer" in Wales.

I already took the liberty a while ago of clarifying the exact location in the description of your picture on Wikimedia Commons. Today, I've eventually taken the step of removing the link to your picture from the "Mynydd Illtud" article, as they are in fact unrelated. There doesn't seem to be an article yet about the Gaer mountain hillfort where you could re-link your picture (or if there is, I've not found it), but it is listed on the page titled "List of hillforts in Wales", in the section "Monmouthshire" (its entry is called "Twyn y Gaer, Llanfihangel Crucorney").

Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petroniusniger (talk • contribs) 16:20, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that, and for taking the time and trouble to let me know. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 08:58, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Language markup

You asked a good while back about the purpose of correct language markup - see WCAG 1.0 accessibility standard - https://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#gl-abbreviated-and-foreign Very best wishes. CecilWard (talk) 00:36, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Happy St. David's Day

The leek is one of the national emblems of Wales, worn along with the daffodil (in Welsh, the daffodil is known as "Peter's leek", Cenhinen Bedr) on St. David's Day. According to one legend, King Cadwaladr of Gwynedd ordered his soldiers to identify themselves by wearing the vegetable on their helmets in an ancient battle against the Saxons that took place in a leek field. Cheers!‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones ^{The Welsh Buzzard} ‑ ‑ 15:55, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

References

Diolch Gareth. Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Hapus i chi hefyd!
Thanks Gareth. A Happy St David's Day to you too!
Daicaregos (talk) 10:23, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Sad news

It is with a heavy heart that I must pass on the sad news that Daicaregos is no longer with us. A lovely man, loyal friend and fantastic Wikipedia collaborator he will be greatly missed. Thank you so much for your generous help . Rest in Peace Welshman xxxxx Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:06, 21 June 2018 (UTC)Jeanne boleyn

I'm sorry to hear this news (belatedly, I'm afraid). We sometimes disagreed strongly with each other here, but more often than not we were aligned together in defending Welsh interests. His very substantial contributions to Wales-related articles on Wikipedia over many years should not be forgotten. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:09, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

• A good man who helped me on numerous occasions. He was only about 60 when he died.Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:36, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
• Sorry to hear this, many months later. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:42, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
• Very sorry to hear from this. He was a interesting individual - we met through wikipedia and met a few times (beer and rugby) and I wrote a column for him over a year or more on rugby and welsh culture. He had a broad range of interests and was a delight to talk with - as well as putting himself out to help people ---Snowded ^TALK 16:48, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
• I'm sad to hear this, too. Such a respected and dedicated Wikipedian. Tony Holkham (Talk) 10:15, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

• What sad news. Dai was a lovely proud Welshman. I shall miss him. Thank you for informing me. Sincerely. Gareth Griffith‑Jones ^{The Welsh Buzzard} 15:00, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps Daicaregos should be listed at Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians article. GoodDay (talk) 19:01, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes of course, provided the guidelines at Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Guidelines are followed. I've already raised it on the talk page there. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:14, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

• Really gutted by his death. He was a fine man, really fine and good. He appreciated the rich diversity of global culture, and saw the importance of Wales within that wider context. He was in the first editathon we held in Wales a few years ago, at Cardiff central library, and his broad outlook and vision will certainly be missed by all those of us who knew him. Methu ti, gyfaill, sori na wnes i ddim danfon yr erthygl na ar y Brawd Mawr i Cymru Culture! Fe ddaw dy awr! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 19:21, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
• This is indeed sad news. I truly enjoyed my time working with Dai when we collaborated to get Wales to GA status, an achievement I know he was very proud of. A great Wikipedian who strived to put Wales on the map. FruitMonkey (talk) 20:31, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

A write up at Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/2018 about Daicaregos, would also seem appropriate. GoodDay (talk) 22:55, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

I've started a brief bio there, but I hope others will add to it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

• Sad to have you go.. Rest in peac.CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:24, 24 October 2018 (UTC)