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DYK for Street House Anglo-Saxon cemetery

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Sinking of the RMS Titanic

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Notification

I mentioned you here (only indirectly). Wnt (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Uninvolved comment on Fae case

As I've said elsewhere, I've been lurking this case, although I'm pretty completely uninvolved. I do weigh in a little on talk pages, though. In this case, my two cents in response to your question at [1] are that I think he was saying that although it's fact he created the page, he considers the accusation to be that he created it in order to ridicule Fae. - Jorgath (talk) ^(contribs) 18:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Actually, he's now clarified (!) that he means to expose Fae, rather than harass him. Not sure I see the difference myself... Prioryman (talk) 23:40, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Again, just thoughts, but perhaps the difference to him is that "exposing" is a public criticism of Fae's behavior, while "harrasment" is an attack on Fae as a person? In other words, the difference would be between saying "X did some really stupid things that everyone should know about" and saying "X is an idiot." That's a very blurry line, especially since the responses could be expected to cross it, but it's the only one I can see. - Jorgath (talk) ^(contribs) 19:56, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

clarify/remove

Not sure in what context you mean kemosabe but it's probably not necessary to advance the argument you're making there. Nobody Ent 17:29, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

C'mon, you must remember the old gag about the Lone Ranger and Tonto heading into danger; the Lone Ranger asks Tonto, "what do we do now?" to which Tonto replies, "what you mean 'we,' kemosabe?" Prioryman (talk) 17:44, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

New request

Hi, Prioryman. After you managed to make a featured article out of the battle of Vukovar, would you be willing to expand the article the siege of Dubrovnik in the same manner for? Kind regards.--Justice and Arbitration (talk) 12:28, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Your Arbitration evidence is too long

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• Hi Prioryman. As long as you trim your word count down by the end of the day, you'll be fine. Lord Roem (talk) 16:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Clarification, re: Wikipediocracy account

I'll bring this here since it'd be a bit far afield from the Arbcom Workshop. The link I provided is to a Wikipediocracy account, and account named the same as your former Wikipedia account, minus the "O". This account joined Mar 18, 2012 and has made a total of 14 posts, 12 of which are visible (2 presumably hidden to some off-topic/tarpit relocation) between Mar 19 - Apr 26. One post was in regards to Delicious Carbuncle and the Common's "donkey punch" image, 5 in a discussion of Jim Hawkins, then some 1s and 2s in a Commons deletion discussion, a discussion about Anders Breivik, etc... The Hawkins thread there is notable for the defense of Fae that the Wikipediocracy account mounted, several times... Also of note; the last time the account logged in (but did not post) was today Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 4:46pm (EST, I believe).

For the record, you are saying that this account is not yours? Tarc (talk) 22:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Nope, certainly not mine. Who's Jim Hawkins, out of curiosity? I can't be bothered to Google the name and it's not familiar to me. Did the Wikipediocracy user ever claim to be me? Prioryman (talk) 22:14, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Jim Hawkins (radio presenter), big OTRS, privacy kerfuffle in March. Consider it retracted, then. Tarc (talk) 00:37, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

No wonder I've never heard of him, BBC Radio Shropshire isn't exactly the world's leading media outlet! Glad we cleared that up then. Prioryman (talk) 06:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Answers for Tryptofish

Curious, why mark this account as a sock of an account indeffed six years ago? I'm not disputing the idea that it's a malicious sock (who would innocently create that username?), and thus I've created an SPI to request checkuser for sleepers, but I'm just confused about your opinion on the sockmaster's identity. Nyttend (talk) 11:53, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Notification

[2] Notifying you since you aren't listed as a party in the case. Cla68 (talk) 01:50, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations!

On getting Icelandic Phallological Museum to FA. Wonderful and very good work on your part! Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 22:19, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! It's definitely an upstanding article. ;-) Prioryman (talk) 07:16, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Well done on all the work on Icelandic Phallological Museum and getting it to FA! Ciaran Sinclair (talk) 23:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Prioryman (talk) 07:16, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I was there 2 months ago. Thanks for bringing it to FA. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 18:01, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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Gisborough Priory

I have passed this article for GA status. Thanks for all your hard work on this. It is a good article and could well go forward to FA in due course. I am supposed to encourage you to review an article yourself, but you may want to sit down in a darkened room for a bit first. Well done.--SabreBD (talk) 16:34, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much for all your help with this! Prioryman (talk) 07:16, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Vinkovci Treasure

I know, it's been all over the news here :) I'm not really active at hr:, but I'm sure someone will get to it eventually. I guess you don't know, but it has actually happened several times that articles in the purview of WP:CRO were written on en: first and on hr: later. Once I even saw a direct translation :) --Joy [shallot] (talk) 06:38, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ernst Moritz Hess

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DYK nomination of Vinkovci Treasure

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ANI notification

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Possible_interaction_ban_violation Nobody Ent 12:23, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

• Prioryman, your comments in this section are a clear breach of your interaction ban and the terms on which you were permitted to take part in the case. Please strike them immediately and refrain from further comment on that talk page. Elen of the Roads (talk) 15:55, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

• I had already removed them [3] but was reverted by Nobody Ent. I'll comply with your request. Prioryman (talk) 16:06, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

your GAN Pont du Gard

Hi,

I've started to review your nomination at Talk:Pont du Gard/GA1 but I've run into some initial confusion that hopefully you can clarify and set me straight!

Thanks,

MathewTownsend (talk) 16:40, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Hyon Song-wol

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Titanic microgrants

Hi Prioryman. Did your visits related to the RMS Titanic, from the two microgrants at wmuk:Microgrants/RMS Titanic research in Northern Ireland and wmuk:Microgrants/RMS Titanic research in England take place? How did they go? Sorry for not following up on this sooner. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:07, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

GA nomination (Cyrus Cylinder)

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DYK for Waste Not

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File:Excellent Horse-Like Lady.jpg listed for deletion

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DYK for Ernst Moritz Hess

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Very fascinating article. Good work as always :) NW (Talk) 06:54, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! There's more on the way. :-)

In response to a comment of yours

In this comment, you indicated that "Arbcom has never previously attempted to direct any actions outside the English Wikipedia". This isn't the case. ArbCom blatantly violated their jurisdictional policy last year at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Racepacket/Proposed_decision#Interaction_ban. You may be interested to read that. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Beaminster Tunnel

Hello Prioryman, I'm considering doing something that probably falls under WP:IAR, so I'd like to drop you a note before I do it so that you are not completely surprised. You are also very welcome to revert the alteration, and I will respect it.

• Thank you for creating the User:Prioryman/Beaminster Tunnel article in your userspace, I'd come looking to do the same and found most of it was already there!
• I've made some changes[4]; added categories, an overview image, alternate names, and notability and a reference for the current deaths that have brought the tunnel more attention.
• I've sorted the OpenStreetMap side too, so the geodata representation should draw too.
• My intention would be now to move it to article space, so that it gains more visibility, and can be expanded first.
• This means "messing around" with your user space, however, the currency in the news would be seen as reasonable grounds in this case.

Once again, thank you for starting the article, and you are most welcome to revert the move if you would prefer. —Sladen (talk) 09:56, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Update: Moved[5], Fixed[6], and Redirected[7]. I've left the userspace redirects at User:Prioryman/Beaminster Tunnel and User talk:Prioryman/Beaminster Tunnel, so things should be less confusing if you find the move before this message. This can probably be tagged G6 if you're happy with the result. (And if not, please do revert). —Sladen (talk) 10:03, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

That's quite all right, I don't mind. The page was virtually ready to go anyway. I need to make a few more changes to it but will then nominate it for DYK. Prioryman (talk) 18:40, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Hyon Song-wol

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Song Dong

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Vinkovci Treasure

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Pont du Gard

Hi,

All done! Sorry for the misunderstanding. MathewTownsend (talk) 17:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your help! It was all good in the end. :-) Prioryman (talk) 07:09, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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		Thanks Prioryman for helping to promote Pont du Gard to Good Article status. Please accept this little sign of appreciation and goodwill from me, because you deserve it. Keep it up, and give someone a pat on the back today. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 06:53, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Beaminster Tunnel

Yngvadottir (talk) 16:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/2012 Yahoo! Voice hack - your comments

Hi,

I saw your comments at Template:Did you know nominations/2012 Yahoo! Voice hack and was puzzled because I often see news websites change their titles after the article is published. USAtoday, for example, will usually change the title on their web page from the one published in their hardcopy. So I don't see how the wiki-article creator can be held responsible for that.

As far as declining the DYK request, yes the article needs work, but unfortunately no one is pitching in to help the article creator. Ottawahitech (talk) 16:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

There's no chance that there was a change in the article titles. The article creator was clearly rewriting the titles himself. The URLs were a giveaway - the article at http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2012/0712/Yahoo-hack-steals-400-000-passwords.-Is-yours-on-the-list is a case in point. The URL gives the article's title, the publisher is a US news outlet, the falsified title referred to "4.5 lacs" - the article creator's own idiosyncratic spelling of the word lakh that so confused SecretLondon in the review - and the ungrammatical and misspelt nature of the falsified title ("is you'rs hacked") showed that it had been written by someone with a shaky grasp of English, rather than the publication. Quite honestly, I felt by the time I'd gone through the article that I simply couldn't trust its accuracy. Prioryman (talk) 20:09, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

ZiL lanes

Sorry for being a pain over this. It's fine apart from the stub thing, which you should really recategorise yourself. It's the wider issue that's caught me, and is making me want to do loads of OR on it. Secretlondon (talk) 23:14, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Forest fire DYK

Hey Prioryman, I've added a few refs, can you comment at Template:Did you know nominations/Richardson fire? Best, The Interior (Talk) 00:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

That was quick. Cheers, The Interior (Talk) 00:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for ZiL lane

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Not a coin

It's tangential so I thought I'd make this comment here. What did you mean by your comment that you are not a coin? Ryan Vesey 19:08, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Read YRC's faulty spelling and click on the link in my comment. :-) Prioryman (talk) 19:17, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, I couldn't figure out what stater had to do with any of that. Ryan Vesey 19:21, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Murfreesboro

I live here. Not much of a writer, but I copyedit and can take pictures or find library material, perhaps. What's the nature of the article? Also, might be useful to leave a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tennessee regarding this. — Huntster (t @ c) 22:14, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Getting the photos shouldn't be a problem, though my camera isn't the best quality. I'll see what I can do. — Huntster (t @ c) 08:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Work has been keeping me busy since you first asked, but I'll try to get out Monday before work and take some pics. Will also have an opportunity Tuesday morning. Will take a look at the article when I have some time. — Huntster (t @ c) 22:20, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

RFCU

Hi. Could you consider fixing, indenting, or refactoring your comment? My post was addressed at Carrite, and your answer doesn't appear to address either of the two preceding posts. Thanks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:45, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

AN/I Notice

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Arkon (talk) 01:07, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Nothing to see here. I closed the thread as it's already known that you had a former account and there was some confusion as to what happened to your prior contributions. Regards, — Moe ε 07:10, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Not closed. The question isn't about anything you just typed. Arkon (talk) 08:07, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Your request for arbitration

I just saw your request for arbitration. In it, you wrote "... the most recent attempt, a mediation ...." Did you mean "... a mentorship"? (Not commenting on anything else in the request yet.) Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:07, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Oops, sorry - you're quite right. Prioryman (talk) 20:08, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Untitled RFAR

Given that half an hour has elapsed since you posted the template, I presume that you have not yet prepared your submission (or had to go offline). The requests page is not a sandbox, so I have removed your section. You may add your full submission whenever it is ready. AGK [•] 20:10, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Moot. AGK [•] 20:12, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I had some trouble getting the template to work. Prioryman (talk) 20:15, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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Stop hounding please

Prioryman, your commentary at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Youreallycan_reported_by_Viriditas_.28talk.29_.28Result:_Page_protected.29 constitutes hounding, in my opinion. I urge you to refrain. Youreallycan may be an easy target, and he may be wrong in just about everything he does these days (note: may be wrong), but your following him and his threads around is highly unproductive, even disruptive. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 04:21, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way, but my interest was in making sure that he would still be able to contribute to the case if he was blocked and to make the reviewing administrator aware of that need. Prioryman (talk) 08:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Hi there, while I appreciate your help, I'd ask that you don't edit the Arbitration Report when you are involved party in an active/pending case due to inherent COI issues. Thanks! James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 6:10pm • 08:10, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Note

[8] I've amended my proposal. To keep it clear I've deleted your comment on the previous iteration. Revert if that's a problem. Can you agree to the amended version? --Anthonyhcole (talk) 18:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Sure, it looks fine to me. Prioryman (talk) 18:53, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

GA review of ZX81

I've completed the GA review of ZX81 and left comments on the GA review page. --Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:10, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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DYK review

This DYK nomination is submitted by another user, User:ZjarriRrethues. Maybe you should notify him about this issue.

Btw, good work on ZX81! --Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:20, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I've notified him. And thanks re ZX81. :-) Prioryman (talk) 07:27, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Heslington Brain.jpg

Just wondering: will the Trust release the 2,600-year-old brain to the public in a museum? Photo is not enough as free to take a picture. The freakin' Brain must be seen in-person, where photography is allowed. Otherwise, why else removing the image from lede? --George Ho (talk) 04:23, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to negotiate an image release with the University of Bradford (who hold the copyright of some of the images) so if you could hang on for a few days... Prioryman (talk) 06:29, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

It's been past a few days, and is there a word from them yet? --George Ho (talk) 16:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if you're in the UK, but we've just had a holiday weekend and a bank holiday here, so a lot of people (including me!) are taking time off at the moment. Prioryman (talk) 19:09, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not. I'm in the U.S. --George Ho (talk) 16:21, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Is it the Archaeological Sciences department who have it? Hubby and I both studied there - although that was 30 years ago, so I wouldn't know anyone there now I expect. But I still live in Bradford if having someone on the spot would help. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:32, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Islamic Center of Murfreesboro

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April Fools DYK

Hi Prioryman, I was talking to Mark Arsten and told him that this looks like a fairly quirky article that would be good for an April Fool's DYK. He said you might be interested. Think it looks doable? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:42, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I seem to be getting a reputation, don't I? :-) It seems to have got plenty of coverage, so I'm sure it's doable... Prioryman (talk) 06:40, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

• If you decide to go for it and want to collaborate, we have some hook suggestions here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:53, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

See you in October?

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'Domesday Book'

Could you encourage some wiki mates to kick the competition off for us? Any non English articles would be esp. useful. Victuallers (talk) 09:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK

Based on the review I tried to make the sentence less confusing to readers. Could you finish the review[9]?--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 09:30, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the ANI notification about Youreallycan (talk · contribs)/Off2riorob (talk · contribs). — Cirt (talk) 14:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Heslington Brain

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ICM news

In our local paper: [10]. Bms4880 (talk) 21:20, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, friend

In case you missed it in the hubbub...

I've been asked to look into this since I closed the RFC. However this has nothing at all to do with the agreement established there, YRC has not broken any of those voluntary restrictions, as has been noted already he is still on the initial wikibreak he agreed to and can't log in. As for the actual issue at hand, it certianly is asking for someone to out Cirt, that much is crystal clear. Is it the same person? We don't know. The fact that he claims he is is not evidence at all, that os exactly what a liar would do. I can't say I support a block based on speculation that he might be some guy on some ther website. (I've always found that the best way to handle such sites is to ignore them entirely, they are mostly full of bitter, angry people and I hardly feel it a good use of my time to hang out at some website where all they do is talk about Wikipedia without ever actually accomplishing anything, but that's just me...) Beeblebrox (talk) 16:17, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

WHY WIKIPEDIOCRACY IS IMPORTANT (for Chris). Wikipedia is a powerful American institution, one of the most dominant presences on the internet. It is a multi-million dollar organization with a professional staff over which there is little or no mechanism for bottom-up control. The pseudo-consensus-decision-making political model employed by Wikipedia itself is an arcane labyrinth, necessarily dominated by long-established insiders. Just as a free opposition press is a fetter to governmental abuse, there needs to be some similar external mechanism of criticism to help ameliorate abuses, challenge hubris, correct problems, and improve the institution. While Wikipediocracy is indeed dominated by "bitter, angry people," this is not to say that it is not to say that even they are incapable of improving the project, albeit indirectly. Even yesterday, a 4-year standing redirect link of the words "Inflated Tits" to a BLP was exposed (and subsequently fixed). If there are abuses, if there are problems, if there are underlying issues at WP, they will surface at Wikipediocracy, often there first. There is also a certain level of annoying whining there, but one can filter that... Carrite (talk) 17:03, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

You really do need to stop viewing everyone who has ever posted at a message board as "members" of something akin to a monolith. The "membership" analogy is false and there is nothing monolithic about the universal set of posters there, which includes the full gamut, ranging from banned editors who want to piss on Wikipedia's grave to others who are devoted to the project.

Best regards, —Tim //// Carrite (talk) 04:15, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

As for the issue, I've come to the conclusion that it would be wrong to block YRC at the moment, although if he comes back and admits it's him, that's another thing. But I also think that this episode has not helped either Cirt or you, and I'd strongly advise you to try to be as little involved with YRC as possible, and certainly not initiate any more actions involving him. If you must, contact other editors on their talk pages about your concerns and let them decide whether or not to raise them. Please take this seriously. Dougweller (talk) 10:48, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Islamic Center of Murfreesboro

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)