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Electronic Intifada

You are correct - my apologies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snipanlol (talkcontribs) 08:06, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

BDS

I'm going through all the sources for the material you added. It all looks like original research. I'm probably going to end up removing it all. Can you have a look for some secondary sources that cover how the BDS campaign uses Christmas ? There must be some out there somewhere. It needs to be a secondary source that does this kind of synthesis of primary source material and reports it, not us. Seriously, the edits you're making to articles covered by discretionary sanctions are POV pushing and you could end up having an Arbitration Enforcement report being filed against you. That would be a pity because I can see that you want to contribute, you spend time researching source material but you aren't using secondary sources. It's easily fixed if you just stick to reliable secondary sources. Sean.hoyland - talk 18:36, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

always appreciate the advice. is this a better source?: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/alana-goodman/384964
I don't know actually. It's a blog in partisan magazine (Commentary (magazine)) so it's not ideal per WP:SOURCES but it might be okay with attribution to the author. She seems to just be quoting NGO Monitor. You can check at the reliable sources noticeboard but it's not worth doing that until you know exactly what you want to use from the article. New reports/analyses in mainstream sources like Jpost etc are always better. I trawled through google looking for a site that is reporting about the campaign at Christmas rather than part of the campaign at Christmas. Not much luck so far. Although I did find a BBC piece from last year that is kind of related here. Trouble is, even though it's about a choir, and it was published on 21 December 2009, it doesn't mention Christmas... Sean.hoyland - talk 19:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
There is this from Nadia Hijab (Senior Fellow at the Institute for Palestine Studies in Washington D.C.) published by Agence Global...never heard of them but they are apparently 'a left-leaning news and commentary syndicate' whatever that is. the New York group Adalah decided to target diamond merchant Lev Leviev, whose profits are plowed into colonizing the West Bank. During the Christmas season, they sing carols with the words creatively altered to urge shoppers to boycott his Madison Avenue store. Sean.hoyland - talk 19:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Israel today Magazine, All I want for Christmas...is a boycott of Israel. Sean.hoyland - talk 19:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I think it's going to be difficult to find a decent secondary source that discusses BDS' Christmas campaigns. Even the BDS site itself doesn't seem to have anything about a campaign at the meta/overview level. If I were you, I would just replace all the material you added with the material from Commentary magazine attributed to Alana Goodman and see what happens. I won't remove it. Sean.hoyland - talk 19:47, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
ok, let's see what happens. Soosim (talk) 06:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: Paamonim

Added a no refs template to the article. You are able to do this yourself-any user can, just as any user can nominate an article for speedy deletion if he/she believes it not to be worthy of space here.We hope (talk) 17:39, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Boycotts of Israel

You should be aware that all articles related to the Arab-Israeli conflict, defined as: any article that could be reasonably construed as being related to the Arab-Israeli conflict, falls under 1RR. When in doubt, assume it is related.

  • Clear vandalism may be reverted without penalty.
  • Editors who violate this 1RR restriction may be blocked without warning by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offense.

For further information, see WP:ARBPIA. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:45, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

malik, my friend, sorry for never answering this one. i am well aware of this and have been for the almost 4 years i have been editing wikipedia. but thanks for pointing it out. and please feel free to let me know about other things like this - sometimes, they do slip by! thanks. Soosim (talk) 18:10, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

NGO Monitor

Sorry it was getting hard to follow who was adding and taking out what.Slatersteven (talk) 19:53, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

got it. whew. Soosim (talk) 05:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

the article about professor newman is a factual rticle about him. it is not an article to promote or criticise his viws on this or any other position. this is part of ongoing cyberterror which is being practiced by NGO monitor against anyone who has questioned their credentials and veracity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.90.167.222 (talk) 12:02, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

On the NGO Monitor site, professor Stenberg falsely represents hinself as a Professor when he has never been able to get beyond the rank of Associate professor. there are strict and formal promotion processes at universitieis, based on academic criterion, and Steinberg remains an Associate, not a Full, professor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.90.167.222 (talk) 12:06, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Dear 194.90.167.222 - NGO Monitor's page on wikipedia is full of critical comments from across the spectrum including those who question their credentials and veracity. so, i don't think it fair to say that NGO Monitor practices cyberterrorism. also, if you can provide proof of professor steinberg's being an associate professor, that would be helpful. the reference sourced for his being a professor is the university where he teaches - i am sure that if it were not true, they themselves would not allow it to be there. thanks. Soosim (talk) 15:25, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Need you to clarify

With this edit you seem to be restoring material to the article which is just adding an editorial opinion, in Wikipedia's voice. No references are provided in what you added. Can you clarify? This article is subject to the sanctions in WP:ARBPIA so we take its neutrality very seriously. Please respond at WP:AN3. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 18:48, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

hi ed,

that was NOT my edit. that was the one i was trying to revert. it was put there by newmanthfc. thanks and let me know if you need any further info. Soosim (talk) 19:35, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Your message about NGO Monitor

Hello Soosim! Your recent edit on the NGO Monitor page is far too detailed for me to judge its validity, so I'll gladly leave that to other Wikipedians. However, the Reception part of the lemma clearly suggests that NGO Monitor is far from an undisputed, objective and/or reliable source. Hereticus obstinatus (talk) 19:17, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hi Sooism - I've started a new section on the talk page of United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict in response to your recent edit - you might like to participate in the discussion. Pexise (talk) 20:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your post to my talk page. It's a difficult one, since this appears to be an opinion piece and not news. Try the reliable sources noticeboard for more comments. Itsmejudith (talk) 16:11, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Ackerman vs. J. Street

See note on J Street Talk Page M.boli (talk) 16:29, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Goldstone

Hi Soosim: I see you are editing the Richard Goldstone article, your first edit seems fine to me (removing the word liberal - liberal is a difficult term anyway as it can mean a number of different things). I would say, though, that it's a good idea to outline changes on the talk page first, particularly if they could be controversial, to give other editors a chance to see the changes before you make them to the article. Thanks, Pexise (talk) 13:57, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

thanks pexise. i am trying to be very careful and will keep it clean...anything controversial will be discussed first, for sure. thanks again. Soosim (talk) 14:00, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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You seem to have been mucking around with the British Council entry in respect of the disruption of the Palestinian Literature Festival? Kindly desist. The British Consulate press statement on which you are basing their edits was premature I suspect. If you watch through the attached YouTube video link on the ATTEMPTED disruption of this event you will see clearly that it eventually DID GO AHEAD as planned in the scheduled tented village and was not in fact relocated to British Council premises as both you and British Council claim: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADhr2ododX4&feature=channel_video_title —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.231.118 (talk) 00:51, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Copyright violations at J Street

Please don't copy and paste material from another site, as you did at J Street. Copyright violations will be deleted, and editors who repeatedly post copyrighted material despite warning may be blocked from editing. See WP:COPYVIO for further information. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

x-man malik, chill out, please. whatever was "copied" was directly sourced. it's called being honest and transparent. it was not gobs of material, but a sentence or two, as permitted. see WP:FU. i appreciate your desire to warn me (and others) about posting copyrighted material - it is very important. but here it is not the case. also, i ask you to Wikipedia:Self-revert#Self-revert the changes you made to my edits. thanks. Soosim (talk) 06:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Sourcing isn't the issue: copying and pasting is. It doesn't matter that it has a footnote at the end of the sentence, you can't copy somebody else's language and put it in Wikipedia.
I'll self-revert if you'll rewrite the material in your own words. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 06:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors
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Hello Soosim, a very warm welcome to the Guild of Copy Editors. We are pleased to have you join us!

To start, you may want to copy edit an article from our Requests page, or pick one from our backlog. If you need any assistance, feel free to leave a note on our talk page, or you can contact any of our coordinators. If you are new to copy editing, you may want to join our Mentorship program. You may also want to participate in our Backlog elimination drives. Below, you will find list of useful links for your convenience.

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Talkback

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CC BY 3.0

I don't think you are the copyright holder of File:BDS_sewer_system.png. :) Can you add a link to whatever it is that indicates that NGO Monitor have released the graphic under CC BY 3.0 or else it will just get deleted at some point. Thanks. WP:COPYRIGHT is a confusing but useful page. Sean.hoyland - talk 10:34, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

correct. but i asked them and they gave permission. where do you want me to add a link? See this Soosim (talk) 16:36, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I've done it. Sean.hoyland - talk 04:07, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

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GOCE / Mid-drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2011 backlog elimination drive
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Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Here is your mid-drive newsletter.

Participation
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So far, 79 people have signed up for this drive. Of these, 64 have participated. Interest is high due to a link to our event from the Watchlist page, and many new and first-time copy editors have joined us for the drive. If you signed up for the drive but haven't participated yet, it's not too late! Try to copy edit at least a few articles. Remember, if you have rollover words from the last drive, you will lose them if you do not participate in this drive. If you haven't signed up for the drive yet, you can sign up now. Many thanks to those editors who have been helping out at the Requests page. We have assisted in the promotion of seven articles to Good article status so far this month.

Progress report

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Talkpages

Hi! You can start discussion threads on talkpages by clicking the "New section" tab when in the discussion page of a Wikipedia article. I started one on the Reut institute. Cheers, --Dailycare (talk) 21:07, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

your suggestion

very appropriate idea. I will work on it. I'll check back and let you know.I.Casaubon (talk) 19:18, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

The world needs better NGO's. HRW doesn't appear to know the difference between a Sunni and a Shia in Bahrain. And doesn't even issue an annual report for the Palestinian Authority. Someone needs to do that. I.Casaubon (talk) 16:27, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
yep. unfortunately, hrw is the 'gold standard' - they do many good things, but sometimes just miss out. maybe one day.... Soosim (talk) 16:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

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Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2011 Backlog elimination drive. Thank you for participating in the March 2011 drive! This newsletter summarizes the March drive and other recent events.

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There were 99 signups for the drive; of these, 70 participated. Interest was high mainly due to a link to our event from the Watchlist page. We had a record-breaking 84 articles listed on the Requests page in March; 11 of these have been promoted to Good article status so far. Several of our recent efforts have received Featured Article status as well, and the GOCE is becoming a solid resource for the Wikipedia community. Many thanks to editors who have been helping out at the Requests page and by copy editing articles from the backlog.

Progress report

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Speedy deletion declined: Miguel Ángel Toma

Hello Soosim. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Miguel Ángel Toma, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Salvio Let's talk about it! 14:44, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

The article is about a person who's been Deputy and Secretary of Intelligence; if you believe he is not notable enough, you can nominate the article for deletion using WP:AFD or, alternatively, WP:PROD. Speedy deletion is only for extremely unremarkable people, such as John Does is my bestest friend in the whole world. you rock, john. That said, per WP:NOENG it's not necessary for an article to only have sources written in English (though this article has no sources, that's true). Cheers, Salvio Let's talk about it! 14:49, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
salvio - as i said, it was reluctant! if it is ok with 'others' (you!), then it is fine with me. no problema, y puedo hablar en espanol, pero..... Soosim (talk) 14:53, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Yo también; pero, solo un poquito, porque soy Italiano... wink That said, I think that Tristán Bauer's article cannot be speedied per A7, due to various assertions of importance, such as his work has received several international awards and Bauer serves, from 2007 as the director of the Public Media System of Argentina. He has been responsible of the creation of Argentina's Ministry of Education Canal Encuentro TV network and is a member of the Board of Directors of the pan-Latin American network teleSUR. Salvio Let's talk about it! 15:22, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

April 2011

These three edits strongly resemble canvassing. Please follow Wikipedia's user conduct guidelines; it isn't the end of the world if you don't get your paragraph into the article. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 16:20, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

no canvassing. just asking other editors in a public forum to look at my work and see why cjcurrie deleted it (as he often does to my stuff). i sometimes get 'gun shy' and wanted to know what others thought. next time i will ask you too, since you are now in my 'stable' and i appreciate the help and advice you can give me. thanks. Soosim (talk) 16:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
The problem with those notifications was that a) it looks like they were directed only at users who have demonstrated a particular POV on this issue, rather than users with differing opinions and b) your description bordered on a request that they add the information back in, rather than a neutral notification of what was going on. In future, when looking for outside help, may I suggest that you post to WikiProjects, such as Wikipedia:Palestine and Wikipedia:Israel? (However, your first step should have been to discuss the issue on the talk page of one or more of the articles, or to ask the user who removed the information what zie saw as wrong with it.) Roscelese (talkcontribs) 19:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Re your insistence that other users take it to the talkpage: the burden is on the user who adds material, ie. you. You are obliged to justify its inclusion - you should begin the talkpage discussion. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 07:10, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, Soosim, for your very valuable input at AE. You provided a difference that speaks for itself. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

no problem. i don't think we have ever 'met' - you are the second editor in the last few days, whom i haven't met before, to make a similar comment. thank you and i look forward to seeing you in the 'edit history'.... Soosim (talk) 17:16, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

copy/paste

This looks like a copyright violation and probably needs rewriting. Sean.hoyland - talk 09:42, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

cool. re-written. thanks sean! Soosim (talk) 11:11, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

By way of an update ...

This will likely be of interest. CJCurrie (talk) 08:30, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Nikki Yanofsky

Hi I have replied threat to edit articles in the thread at the BLP noticeboard here. Off2riorob (talk) 17:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Copyrights

Malik Shabazz knows what he's doing when he reverts your edits. He is an admin. Realize that even paraphrasing can constitute a copyright violation, you know. We do not tolerate them.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:44, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

jasper - thanks. i tried to rewrite it a couple of times, but then he called me a 'jackass'. i guess he really does know what he is doing?!! Soosim (talk) 06:31, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Paraphrasing, which rewriting is, is still not enough, and admins can get really frustrated over you adding this repeatedly.Jasper Deng (talk) 17:57, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
it wasn't added repeatedly, but rather, it was re-written and then added. that is, it wasn't like i was edit warring and just putting back the same content each time. rather, i gave it an earnest shot at a rewrite. ok, it's over. but thanks. Soosim (talk) 18:00, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
After rewrite, it can be still considered the same copyvio.Jasper Deng (talk) 18:00, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

The Golden Rule

This rule states that expect what you do to others to be done to yourself. In addition, there is another saying "One pointed finger equals three pointed back." Keep those in mind when trying to make a big commotion with Malik Shabazz.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:04, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

i will happily have people point at me. i will happily stand behind anything i have ever said or edited. i never hvae used such vulgar language as malik has, nor have i done the type of things that he has. sorry, can't compare 3:1. Soosim (talk) 04:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Admins typically use mild incivility if they are frustrated, and yes, they can be easily frustrated by copyright violations. It does not warrant a block though. I have told Malik Shabazz that he/she knows better than that, and that should be enough.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
well, if admins 'typically' use vulgarity and resort to personal attacks and name calling, then they should be blocked, removed and never allowed to be here. zero tolerance. really unacceptable. human kindness is the most important part of human interaction. Soosim (talk) 05:56, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
With that said, your conduct wasn't much better (copyright violations). Trust me, I've seen way worse than that here.Jasper Deng (talk) 17:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Copyright problem: The Arab Lobby

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as The Arab Lobby, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to contain material copied from multiple sources including: The Daily Beast and National Post, and therefore to constitute a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are liable to be blocked from editing.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under license allowed by Wikipedia, then you should do one of the following:

It may also be necessary for the text be modified to have an encyclopedic tone and to follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at this temporary page. Leave a note at Talk:The Arab Lobby saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! GabrielF (talk) 06:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Mikis Theodorakis

I assume it was inadvertent, but noticed you deleted someone else's comments on Talk:Mikis Theodorakis. Just wanted to note it is almost never acceptable to revert a talk page comment. As for the substance of what you were debating, I agree that Jerusalem Post is a reliable source, and said so at WP:BLPN. Jonathanwallace (talk) 20:22, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

i did? certainly not on purpose. didn't even see that i did. sorry. will check history and try to fix. Soosim (talk) 22:00, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
OK, no problem. By the way, I re-added the content you were trying to include in the article, with additional sources. There is also significant support for its inclusion at WP:BLPN right now. Jonathanwallace (talk) 22:05, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Mikis Theodorakis - BLPN

note FYI - your contributions have been mentioned at the BLPN here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Mikis_Theodorakis - note - please stop reverting and move to discussion. Off2riorob (talk) 20:49, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

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The Guild of Copy Editors – May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive


The Guild of Copy Editors invite you to participate in the May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive began on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). The goals of this backlog elimination drive are to eliminate as many articles as possible from the 2009 backlog and to reduce the overall backlog by 15%. ! NEW ! In an effort to encourage the final elimination of all 2009 articles, we will be tracking them on the leaderboard for this drive.

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Artists Against Apartheid

Just to let you know I've declined your speedy request as I feel there is enough to identify the subject. I'm not sure if A7 would cover it, so I'd suggest PROD for notability. Peridon (talk) 13:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

michael lucas

Hello and thank you for the note you left me about the section that already exists. I just wanted to let you know I appreciate it and put my info in that section[2]. --BlackNYer (talk) 00:10, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Mikis Theodorakis

Hi Sooism, I just wanted to alert you to a change I made to Mikis Theodorakis involving the antisemitic comments he made on Greek television. The matter was discussed on the BLP/N some time ago, and it was clear then that we cannot restate the inaccurate phrasing of the JP regarding the notion that Theodorakis said "I'm antisemitic." As far as I know, he never said that. Indeed, on his website he says vehemently that he is not antisemitic. Anyway I rephrased the information. Do I agree that his comments were an example of antisemitism? Yes, but that is a far cry from him self-identifying as an antisemite. I hope my change is OK. Cheers.Griswaldo (talk) 15:24, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

terrific! thanks. well done. Soosim (talk) 16:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Your edit at Antisemitism

That was much better. Well done. --Frederico1234 (talk) 19:32, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

June 2011

Your addition to New antisemitism has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 17:40, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

  • The source: Lord Sacks traced the current brief against Israel to the first Durban Conference..."
  • Your text: Lord Jonathan Sacks, said that the current brief against Israel can be traced to the first Durban Conference.

You've been warned countless times in the past to use your own words when adding information to Wikipedia. The next time I find a copyright violation on your part, I will report it to the appropriate noticeboard. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 17:44, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

mssr shabazz - "countless?" - i think once. maybe twice now. and it wasn't a 'warning' but rather, a caring editor helping me understand what works best here. so, maybe instead of threatening me and being down right nasty, just say 'try this: blah blah blah'. the world would be a better place if more people were kind and not mean. just saying. Soosim (talk) 18:00, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
MALIK - where are you? was this a "hit and run" attack? please be fair. Soosim (talk) 14:22, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
There are four or five notices about copyright violations higher up on this page. The rule is really simple: don't copy and paste other people's words into Wikipedia articles unless you want your edits reverted. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:01, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution re: NGOM

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "NGO Monitor". Thank you. --BothHandsBlack (talk) 15:17, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Since we don't seem to be able to understand each other on the issues here I've asked if we can get some third party help. BothHandsBlack (talk) 15:17, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

trying to help wiht the english and facts

See Muphry's law. Enjoy. Sean.hoyland - talk 13:27, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

gotta love it..... Soosim (talk) 13:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
oh, and this is from today - despite the entire article really being disgusting, look at the error in the first line: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/552785_10151691694775717_549595716_24124860_1252490859_n.jpg
If I didn't make anything wrong the court deal is http://www.regavim.org.il/images/stories/hakl.pdf and some background rulings for PA settlements http://www.regavim.org.il/images/stories/yadid.pdf
I don't wish to add on that page (the 1rr rule) but you might notice that 81.218.101.250 added stuff from some news agencies (witch I didn't have ) that went to court :
According to Regavim movement 30[1] different cases had been filed between the ones that had been rule in favor of the Regavim were [2][3][4][5] most of the cases are economical cases (queries,production sites,waste disposal sites) and minority are with illegal take over of land for living.
As what the page state now is not what the ref says (there are two different incidents) there had been 30 legal cases of different nature,
I might add that Regavim (http://www.regavim.org.il/en) is not so popular activist group (in comparison to Shalom-Ahsev) but they are working at least from 2009 (example in english http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/settlers-petition-to-tear-down-nearby-palestinian-stadium-1.3311) 109.226.26.76 (talk) 14:03, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Soosim. Here on Wikipedia, it is entirely legitimate to contest a CSD nomination (if you are not the article's creator) and similar rule applies to proposed deletions. You should not revert. If you question notability of the topic, take the article to WP:AFD and explain your objections there. I won't revert, but I'm pretty sure another admin will. Best regards. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:08, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

thanks for trying V, but i also had looked and looked and looked and saw nothing, literally, in any RS. anyway, i opened a section on her talk page, so we can continue there. (i opened it a few minutes after i put it up for deletion.) Soosim (talk) 16:34, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Deborah Hertz

Hello Soosim. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Deborah Hertz, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: there is certainly enough here to pass the low bar of A7. I have also removed the PROD, because once removed, for any reason or none, a PROD may not be replaced - see WP:DEPROD. If you really think this should go, you will have to take it to AfD. JohnCD (talk) 17:04, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

French people

Hi, the picture is representing the French Marie Sklodowska Curie (she is from Poland!!), who lives in France. Is not this a bug? What do you think? Top811 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:58, 13 May 2012 (UTC).

she is usually thought of as french, but yes, born and raised in poland. not sure what to do with that! sorry. Soosim (talk) 18:10, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

SJP

Hi Soosim, you deleted the addition of UNC Chapel Hill's SJP chapter, stating "removed facebook entries - if it is to be an official group of the university, then see most of the other entries on how to do it." What other entries are you referring to? It wasn't a facebook entry; it was the group's FB page. They also have an official website, but their FB page is more up-to-date, which is why I linked it to that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kazemzad (talkcontribs) 21:59, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

hi kazemzad - fb is not considered wiki worthy. if the group is a real group of the university, then it will be listed on the university's website, usually. and if the fb page is more up to date than the official page, well....ask someone to keep the other one up to date as well! sorry. Soosim (talk) 02:44, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Your wish is my command, Soosim. I have now changed the link to the official UNC SJP website. Kazemzad (talk) 05:50, 15 May 2012 (UTC)Kazemzad

cool, kazemzad. now, on the other edits you are doing - please use RS (not facebook, not youtube), ok? oh, and watch the POV language. for example, if that ilan pappe thing makes it to an RS, you can not say 'renowned'. Soosim (talk) 06:10, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you please explain to me how a live recording of footage posted in a video on Youtube is not an RS? I would agree with you if it were a video of a second party attributing those words to him, but that is certainly not the case here. Also, the word 'renowned' means: known or talked about by many people; famous. Like it or not, Ilan Pappe is indeed known or talked about by many people, including his admirers and his critics. Kazemzad (talk) 06:21, 15 May 2012 (UTC)Kazemzad

not for me to decide, that is what wiki has decided. it can't be used. and for 'renowned', see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch

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You insist that the page for Boycotts, divestment, and sanctions include the following paragraph: Hollywood celebrities Zach Roerig, Paget Brewster, Holt McCallany, Omar Epps, Holly Robinson Peete, Mekhi Phifer, AnnaLynne McCord,Paul Johansson, Dominic Purcell all visited an Israeli Air Force Base as part of a special celebrity mission in May 2012.[85][86]

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they are all celebs who did not boycott israel. they showed that they could come, unlike those mentioned elsewhere who showed that they did not come. Soosim (talk) 02:48, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

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Ignoring right wing NGO's which he regards to be involved in criminal activity is central to Newman's criticism of NGO monitor. You have deleted this referenced information without adequate explanation. Could you please explain why you have removed a central part of the criticism on the article's talk page. Dlv999 (talk) 15:21, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

hi dlv - thought i explained it over there. the article is not an article, but an op-ed piece. newman is entitled to his opinions, and they may be quoted in his name. but he is not entitled to suggest material as facts. regardless of right wing, left wing, or anything else, only his opinion is allowed. just because he states that right wing ngos are involved in criminal activity, doesn't make it so. find a source for that, have it directly tied in to his op-ed, and then it might be ok. i am sure that if ngo 'x' was involved in criminal activity, it would be reported by an RS. Soosim (talk) 15:29, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
The material you removed was clearly attributed to Newman: "many of which, he said, were facilitating illegal activity in the West Bank". Newman's opinions are significant as they have been reported in multiple RS. Our job is to accurately reflect Newman's opinion as it appears in the cited RS. Thus your removal of a central aspect of Newman's criticism (i.e opinion) means that the article no longer accurately reflects Newman's opinion as it appears in the cited RS that we are using for Newman's opinion. Dlv999 (talk) 15:39, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
dlv - newman's opinions are significant in his field of expertise, and in a slightly larger area as well. but saying that right wing ngos are involved in criminal activity needs to be based on more than opinion. and, by the way, the quote still stands just find. it is newman's criticism of ngo monitor, seemingly to only care about non-right wing ngos. (and in fact, by the way again, in each of newman's annual pieces criticising ngom, he doesn't bring this point up again....) Soosim (talk) 16:45, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Newman's opinion is that right wing NGO's are are involved in criminal activity and that NGO monitor is ignoring them. Our job is to simply report Newman's opinion as it appears in the RS. Dlv999 (talk) 18:57, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Pappé in elections

Just to clarify, you couldn't find Pappé because you were looking at the list for the 16th Knesset election in 2003, not the 15th Knesset in 1999. I've restored the statement, with a clear and reliable source (in Hebrew, which I think you understand, since I couldn't find it in English). RolandR (talk) 16:01, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

ok, now i am really confused....you added in a good link. and it shows him at #7. but...it is the same link for the previous fact, about the 1996 elections. so, one of them is correct and one is not. and then....we still need a link for the one that is wrong. Soosim (talk) 16:41, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
I'll have a look at it. Certainly (look in the talk page archives) I did locate sources for both elections a couple of years ago. RolandR (talk) 17:18, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
You might find this site useful: all the election lists back to 1949. Now to correct the article! RolandR (talk) 17:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
nice link - good to know. and thanks for fixing the article. Soosim (talk) 05:37, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Undid revision 496545253 by Dr.K. (talk) (why rv a talk page?). The reasons were: 1. It was a WP:BLP violation because it was insulting to Kasparov. 2. Some of the edits about the wives etc. were already archived by Misza Bot and you unarchived them by reverting me 3. The edits I reverted were from an edit-warring sock puppet who got indefinitely blocked and who keeps using multiple accounts to add material which calls Kasparov a "gangster" and other such insulting things. 4. The talkpage of Kasparov got protected to avoid adding the BLP violations which you re-added by reverting me. 5. The admin who protected Kasparov's talkpage also removed the insults again after you re-added them by reverting me. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:47, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

hey, dr k - thanks for explaining. perhaps a little bit of explaining in the rv itself would've saved you some time and trouble! thanks again. Soosim (talk) 05:46, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
You mean you reverted me without looking at the diff to see what kind of @#! I removed? Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:10, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
i looked at some of the comments, but that one was so unclear.... Soosim (talk) 06:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I understand. Things happen, no problem. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 06:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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i am having trouble following what you are saying. which edit, and which RS is bring called a tabloid? Soosim (talk) 14:14, 17 June 2012 (UTC)


This edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nurit_Peled-Elhanan&diff=498011369&oldid=498010169 restored the term Extremist views, based on a source that is From an online edition of an israeli tabloid.Dalai lama ding dong (talk) 14:23, 17 June 2012 (UTC) see This page, format tabloid. Dalai lama ding dong (talk) 14:23, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
are you talking about maariv? it is one of israel's oldest and largest newspapers. it is not a tabloid (assuming you mean tabloid journalism and not the physical size of the newspaper?). RS all the way... Soosim (talk) 14:30, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hey thanks for look out for the problems with that section. I originally thought it was something from memory then quickly added a very similar but different Democracy Now source from what I remembered and intended. I'll probably just leave that out for now. Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 01:32, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

just trying to stick to the RS facts.....i am sure that abunimah is mentioned in hundreds of places, if you want to find it and add more about whatever he talks about (he is not shy). Soosim (talk) 09:11, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

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Can you have a look at the sources added that don't just discuss each incident in isolation. Ankh.Morpork 10:47, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for reconsidering your position. Ankh.Morpork 12:47, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
i have never had a problem with facts.... Soosim (talk) 06:19, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

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Proposal

It isn't strange that the only tiny developed democratic country in the Middle East (the only place where Arabs are truly free) is the only one that has an entire article dedicated to their enemies' accusations (real or invented), but countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran or the Palestinians don't have one. My proposal is to create a page about Criticism of the Iranian government... starting with simple facts: it's a theocratic regime which finances terrorism (Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Revolutionary Guards, etc), kills dissidents in Europe, bombs Beirut and Buenos Aires, helps to violently suppress protests in Syria (where its allied dictator is facing major problems) and inside Iran, promotes violence against defenseless civilians in Israel, Lebanon, Afghanistan and Iraq, possesses ambitions in Bahrain, scares Sunni Arab countries of the Persian Gulf and threatens to close the strait of Hormuz, violates Human Rights, threatens to erase Israel from the Earth, it's an oligarchical-clerical dictatorship that hangs homosexuals, denies the Holocaust, perpetrates terrorist attacks in Thailand, Georgia, India, Azerbaijan, Kenya, Greece, Turkey, South Africa, Cyprus, Bulgaria (at least 24 countries in five continents)... kills diplomats and tourists, assaults embassies, has an antisemitic imperialist ideology full of dangerous suicidal fanatics and misogynists, stones women for committing "sexual offenses", has genocidal aspirations against another nation, oppresses minorities, has religious ambitions of regional and global power... a danger for the world in general and Israel and the Jewish people in particular. I mean, don't you think we should remove Wikipedia's double standard regarding criticism of other countries?? I'll let you think about it and if you want starting the new article. Greetings.--JellWaffle (talk) 23:38, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

if you want to write it and properly source it, i will be happy to review it and edit it as necessary. and that goes for any article. Soosim (talk) 19:14, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Please help me to improve and expand this article.--JellWaffle (talk) 00:09, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
i don't see an article like that. sorry. Soosim (talk) 03:53, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Because it was deleted by RHaworth.--JellWaffle (talk) 04:23, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Nature of the regime

Iran's government is an Islamic theocratic regime.

Supporting terrorism

Iran finances terrorist organizations like Hezbollah,[6][7] Hamas[8][9][10][11] and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.[12]

Killing Iranians abroad

Iran has been accused of killing dissidents and expatriates in Europe.[13]

AMIA bombing

Argentine Justice and Interpol have accused Iran for the 1994 AMIA bombing.[14][15]

Syrian civil war

Iran has been involved in the Syrian civil war helping Assad government to violently suppress the revolt.[16][17][18][19]

Hostility toward Arab nations

Several Sunni Arab countries consider Iran a serious threat.[20]

Strait of Hormuz

Iranian military leaders have threaten to close the Strait of Hormuz in case of an attack against their nuclear facilities or sanctions, violating international treaties regarding free passage over the strait.[21]

Human rights violations

Iranian government has been accused of several human rights violations against its citizens, including torture, rape and killing of political prisoners, homosexuals, minors, women, ethnic minorities and protesters. Iran violently repressed an internal uprising in 2009.

Threats against Israel

Iranian top leaders – including President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, former President Mohammad Khatami and Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei – have threaten to destroy Israel several times.[22][23][24][25]

Holocaust denial

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad frequently denies the Holocaust.

Terrorism worldwide

Iran has been accusing of orchestrating terrorist attacks against civilians and tourists in Thailand, Georgia, India, Azerbaijan, Kenya, Greece, Turkey, South Africa, Cyprus, Bulgaria, United States and other countries.[26]

Attacks against embassies and diplomatic missions

Iran has been accused of assaulting embassies and diplomatic missions inside its territory and around world, including the British and US embassies in Tehran, Israeli embassies in Buenos Aires and London.[27]

Antisemitism

Iranian regime has been accused of promoting antisemitism.

Misogyny

As a country ruled by Sharia, women in Iran suffer several limitations and are not considered equal in rights than men.

Apocalyptic messianic ideology

In Iran predominates an apocalyptic narrative about the world's end and many leaders believe in it.[28]

Nuclear program

Iran has been accused by the International Atomic Energy Agency of carrying out an illegal nuclear program aimed at building nuclear weapons.[29]

References

  1. ^ filed cases by Regavim [1]
  2. ^ http://elyon2.court.gov.il/files/09/770/053/B05/09053770.B05.htm
  3. ^ http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=208098&R=R2
  4. ^ http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/222914
  5. ^ http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/229218
  6. ^ Adam Shatz (April 29, 2004). "In Search of Hezbollah". The New York Review of Books. Retrieved August 14, 2006. 
  7. ^ Erdbrink, Thomas (2012-02-05). "Khamenei: Iran will back ‘any nations, any groups' fighting Israel". The Washington Post. 
  8. ^ Jordan: Whether Hamas persecute, kidnap, torture or abuse with impunity Jordanian citizens who disagree with its methods, policies and ideology Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada, 25 October 2000, JOR35666.E, accessed 28 September 2010
  9. ^  This article incorporates public domain material from the Congressional Research Service document "Fatah and Hamas: the New Palestinian Factional Reality".
  10. ^ The Iran-Hamas Alliance, In Focus Quarterly, by Meyrav Wurmser, Fall 2007
  11. ^ Hamas receives blow to wallet, Intelligence Online, April 22, 2010.
  12. ^ http://www.economist.com/node/21556961, "The Gaza Strip: Will normality ever return? The Islamists of Hamas are being squeezed towards pragmatism", The Economist, dated 16 June 2012.
  13. ^ BERLIN COURT SAYS TOP IRAN LEADERS ORDERED KILLINGS, New York Times April 11, 1997
  14. ^ "Iran, Hezbollah charged in 1994 Argentine bombing". Daily Jang. October 25, 2006. Archived from the original on September 1, 2007. Retrieved October 25, 2006. 
  15. ^ INTERPOL
  16. ^ "Iran 'sending arms to Syria despite ban'". Al Jazeera. 17 May 2012. Retrieved 17 May 2012. 
  17. ^ Saeed Kamali Dehghan (28 May 2012). "Syrian army being aided by Iranian forces". Guardian. Retrieved 2012-08-18. 
  18. ^ "Iranian Guards, Mahdi Army troops enter Syria's Druze Mountain". NowLebanon. 2012-02-15. Retrieved 2012-08-18. 
  19. ^ Daftari, Lisa (28 August 2012). "Iranian general admits 'fighting every aspect of a war' in defending Syria's Assad". FOX News. Retrieved 6 September 2012. 
  20. ^ Why Arabs Fear Iran, Al Arabiya News February 16, 2009
  21. ^ Iran threatens to block Strait of Hormuz oil route, BBC News December 28, 2011
  22. ^ Pipes, Daniel (January 18, 2002). "Arabs Still Want to Destroy Israel". Wall Street Journal. Retrieved July 26, 2012. 
  23. ^ "Iran leader urges destruction of 'cancerous' Israel". CNN. December 15, 2000. Retrieved July 27, 2012. 
  24. ^ "The Zionist Entity and Iran". GlobalSecurity.org. Retrieved July 27, 2012. 
  25. ^ "Ahmadinejad: Israel must be wiped off the map", IRIB News, 26 October 2005.
  26. ^ Israel has no doubt about who is behind the deadly attack in Bulgaria, Haaretz July 19, 2012
  27. ^ Interview Robert Baer
  28. ^ ISLAM IN IRAN v. MESSIANIC ISLAM IN IRAN
  29. ^ "U.N. nuclear watchdog board rebukes defiant Iran". Reuters. 18 November 2011. Retrieved 20 November 2011. 


As RHaworth recently admitted, this article must be userfied, but not removed.--JellWaffle (talk) 12:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

my take on your article attempt

i think you raise some good points with good sources. (some of the sources are questionable, though. be careful). anyway, my best advice to you is to incorporate each of these points into the current iran article. make your changes to the article one at a time. some will stay, some will be rejected.if that doesn't work, then go to the iran talk page and ask for consensus about what to do with each of these issues. Soosim (talk) 12:50, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

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